The Flop House: Episode #101 - The Last Godfather

[0:00] In this episode, we discuss the only film where Harvey Keitel plays the father of a middle-aged Korean man,

[0:06] The Last Godfather.

[0:30] Hey everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy. My name is Elliot Kalin. And I'm the house cat. No, no, no. That's not true. 100% not true.

[0:47] I just thought I was feeling in. No, no, no. You're feeling in as yourself. Okay. And I'm Al Madrigal.

[0:54] That's right, ladies and gentlemen. Stuart's not here, but you know him from the world of comedy. And television. You know him from the world of TV and movies. And insurance commercials. You know him from the world of podcasts. And stand-up.

[1:09] And now you know him from the world of comedy, movie, podcasts. Mr. Al Madrigal.

[1:16] Al Madrigal. Hi, guys. Thank you for joining us. You're feeling in for Stuart Wellington, the usual third musketeer, the Athos to Dan's Porthos. And today, you're our Aramis.

[1:28] And I feel like – I didn't think when we were talking about this whole – what is it? He's the house cat?

[1:35] Yeah, well, there is a house cat. There's a –

[1:38] There's a free-floating entity, sort of a trickster spirit.

[1:42] Yeah, the Native Americans refer to him as Coyote. He's kind of a party dude who's a cat. He chimes in every now and then.

[1:52] He's the original party animal other than the other party animals that preceded him.

[1:57] I just really thought I would be able to chime in every now and then.

[2:00] No, no. Well, we want you to talk as you.

[2:02] We want you to talk as a human being with feelings and opinions about things.

[2:07] And words that are not just meow sounds. Like that. That's a great house cat.

[2:13] You are enraging the fans right now.

[2:15] The fans are so mad.

[2:16] I think the fans will demand that I come back, and Stuart will no longer be involved with the podcast.

[2:22] Wow. You are thrown down the gauntlet. The floplet.

[2:26] Was Stuart ever in a bad movie? Did he ever –

[2:31] No.

[2:32] Oh, that's true. Al was regaling us on our subway ride here.

[2:36] Come on. The glamour. On our limo ride here.

[2:39] That's right. With tales of –

[2:42] Getting a call the day before shooting.

[2:44] And what was the movie you were in? It was with Christian Slater?

[2:47] Lies and Illusions with Cuba Gooding Jr. and Christian Slater.

[2:51] Wow. In that order?

[2:52] Oscar winner.

[2:53] Actually, I think Christian Slater got top billing.

[2:55] Oscar winner, Christian Slater.

[2:57] And Pulitzer Prize winner, Cuba Gooding Jr.?

[3:00] Yeah.

[3:01] Or is it Cuba Gooding Jr.?

[3:02] Cuba.

[3:03] Cuba?

[3:04] I believe he prefers Cuba.

[3:05] Okay.

[3:06] Where I was also – and I – the wardrobe.

[3:09] Every bit of wardrobe in that movie is an item that Christian Slater refused to wear.

[3:14] And I was – and –

[3:16] I like to think that it's like a tutu, butterfly wings, pajamas.

[3:20] He refused with good reason.

[3:23] Ill-fitting dress shirts, maybe like a pastel mint green.

[3:28] No one would ever – and then –

[3:30] Madras shorts. This doesn't make sense.

[3:32] This is in Alaska. I don't get it, guys.

[3:35] Not too far off, we were in Spokane, Washington filming.

[3:38] That's where all the best movies are filmed.

[3:40] Oh, yeah, because it looks like everywhere.

[3:42] Yeah.

[3:43] Spokane doubles for a lot of places.

[3:45] We also – they sent me the script in final draft and said, go for it.

[3:51] Go for it like rewrite it.

[3:53] Please.

[3:55] We are fresh out of ideas.

[3:57] We're just going to farm this out to all of you.

[4:00] We're going to crowdsource this.

[4:01] I like to think of Christian Slater now hunched over the computer like, all right, what do we do with this?

[4:06] Okay, act three problems. Let's fix it.

[4:09] I guarantee you that he did not look at the script until day of.

[4:15] Do you think he knew he was in a movie or was it like bow finger?

[4:18] He knew very well what he was doing because he pulled me aside and said, Al, this is it.

[4:23] Let me tell you what we're doing here.

[4:25] This is a cash grab.

[4:27] Gold CG, all right?

[4:29] We're going to do this and pretend it never happened.

[4:33] Grizzled veteran, Christian Slater.

[4:35] As if this was a crime you were committing somewhere.

[4:37] Sure.

[4:38] No, and really did – I saw him look at his sides at some point and go, all right, let's do it.

[4:47] I love that attitude.

[4:49] All right, this is what you guys want to do.

[4:51] Let's go for it.

[4:52] I am 100% more forgiving of like the last ten years in Christian Slater's career now that I've heard this story.

[4:58] At some point I think I was also looking at my sides and like –

[5:02] To make sure we weren't splitting from all the hilarity.

[5:08] Do my lines and he looked at me like, just what – don't worry about that.

[5:15] And we were really –

[5:16] This isn't really one of those knowing your lines kind of movies.

[5:18] No, I really – it is an improvised movie.

[5:23] It's called Lies and Illusions?

[5:25] Lies and Illusions.

[5:26] Not Clive Barker's Lord of Illusions.

[5:28] No, and Tibor, the guy who directed – you said Manskito.

[5:33] You had mentioned that he directed a movie called Manskito, which I've seen some of.

[5:37] I believe so. I've got to –

[5:39] He said it was some kind of Manskito movie.

[5:41] Is that a sci-fi original?

[5:42] It's not on sci-fi. I think it might be a sci-fi original.

[5:44] No, I think that –

[5:47] Was that a theatrical release?

[5:49] The Manskito people –

[5:51] Well, Manskito fans, write in and correct us, all you skeet heads.

[5:55] Ooh, that sounds bad.

[5:57] I mean like Manskito then of course had the Vertigo comic series based off of that movie.

[6:03] And then there were a lot of ancillary properties.

[6:07] Where are you going with this?

[6:08] There was the Manskito radio show.

[6:10] Manskito and the Mad Dog, yeah.

[6:12] Wow, I cannot believe I pulled up.

[6:14] Yeah, Tibor Takacs is the name of the director.

[6:20] He's Italian.

[6:21] Yes, Hungarian, close.

[6:24] I was in the right continent.

[6:27] And yeah, Manskito, I believe. Let's see. Lies and Illusions.

[6:33] Some kind of untitled Tibor fall project.

[6:37] Here he is.

[6:39] The Gate.

[6:40] Oh, The Gate.

[6:41] He made The Gate?

[6:42] Was that with Johnny Depp?

[6:44] No.

[6:45] No, The Gate's the one where they play the –

[6:46] 1986.

[6:47] I think it was The Ninth Gate, I think.

[6:48] The Gate's the Canadian movie where they play the heavy metal record backwards and they open up a gate to hell.

[6:55] Oh, I don't know that one.

[6:56] Wow.

[6:57] How come hell always has gates?

[6:58] You'd think they'd have moving passages, just a door, a nice door.

[7:01] Just a nice door with all of history's greatest criminals down there?

[7:05] I mean a really big door.

[7:06] No.

[7:07] Like a big steel door.

[7:08] You've got to have a gate, a reinforced gate.

[7:10] A gate says to me if you're a skinny enough villain you can slip through it.

[7:14] You need a gate, you need a portcullis maybe, some sort of –

[7:17] See, I'm thinking more like a fence.

[7:19] Here's something you don't see often.

[7:20] In 1996 he directed one episode of Sabrina the Teenage Witch, which is hard to do.

[7:26] Guess what?

[7:27] Not having him back.

[7:28] We are not having –

[7:29] Melissa Joan Hart is like, never again.

[7:32] T-Bor said everything he needed to say with the character in that one episode.

[7:36] Why make a sequel?

[7:37] It's unnecessary.

[7:38] A lot of Red Shoe – oh, two Red Shoe diaries.

[7:40] You've got two of them.

[7:41] Now this has nothing to do with the movie we watch tonight though.

[7:44] No.

[7:45] This is the movie you made.

[7:46] And working with T-Bor was okay?

[7:48] The guy was willing to send me the entire script in final draft.

[7:52] Yes, it was awesome.

[7:53] Megasnake.

[7:56] I assume that's either a really big snake or a snake lottery of some kind.

[7:59] He did Ice Spiders.

[8:01] Ice Spiders?

[8:02] Manskito, The Black Hole.

[8:04] Now what's the relationship between Ice Spiders and Ice Pirates?

[8:07] I assume one rides the other, but which rides which, I don't know.

[8:10] My babysitter is a vampire, and then recently he's done Spiders 3D.

[8:17] Okay.

[8:18] He's working.

[8:19] I mean all spiders are 3D.

[8:20] So that's –

[8:23] Those are your bad movie credentials.

[8:25] That's why I think I'm a little bit more qualified than Stewart.

[8:29] Wow.

[8:30] Wow.

[8:31] Stewart better hope that he makes a bad movie while he's on his vacation because you're making a pretty strong argument.

[8:37] So – and then why is Stewart in Puerto Rico?

[8:39] I don't understand.

[8:40] Well, he's just on vacation.

[8:41] Oh, okay.

[8:42] Five months after being in Puerto Rico.

[8:44] Yeah, I mean they were just there less than a half year ago to get married, but –

[8:48] They made a pledge to go back every five months.

[8:51] No matter what's going on in their life, they just drop it.

[8:54] Hey, guys.

[8:55] Let's make a pledge.

[8:56] If we're still married, let's meet back here in five months.

[8:59] Because they're not going to see each other?

[9:01] Well, they're busy.

[9:03] If we're still married, we'll meet back here.

[9:06] It's a modern career man and career woman.

[9:08] They've got to make time for each other.

[9:10] You know how it is.

[9:11] It's hard.

[9:12] It's true.

[9:13] It is hard when you've got two working people in a relationship.

[9:15] So now this The Last Godfather that we saw.

[9:19] Oh, yeah.

[9:20] That's the movie we saw tonight.

[9:21] That's the movie we saw tonight.

[9:22] I was working on –

[9:23] Well, this –

[9:24] Can you give me the background?

[9:25] The movie we saw tonight is called The Last Godfather, and this is a movie you brought to us.

[9:29] I found in Ellijay, Georgia at a sort of rest stop, gas station, grocery store.

[9:36] I was doing my first field piece for The Daily Show, and we pulled over and shot some bad scene that was never used in the field piece.

[9:45] I was interviewing the number one Mitt Romney fan, and we found this one guy.

[9:48] Oh, that was a funny piece.

[9:49] Yeah.

[9:50] He was very enthusiastic about it.

[9:52] If you want to go back to thedailyshow.com and look this up, this great character that I think we're going to meet up with him at the convention.

[9:58] That would be awesome.

[10:00] This man, he's actually, since then, butt-called us while he was taking a dump to thank us

[10:08] again.

[10:09] Wait, how do you...

[10:10] I can understand butt-calling someone when your, like, pants are fully up, but when they're

[10:14] down it seems like it's harder to...

[10:15] He must have dropped it.

[10:16] I'm sure he dropped it.

[10:17] Dropped what?

[10:18] Sexcords?

[10:19] Yeah.

[10:20] He died.

[10:21] He needed to go.

[10:22] Yeah.

[10:23] He propelled those pants away from him.

[10:25] Sweet, sweet man, but we found him in L.A.J., Georgia.

[10:29] When we're shooting some sort of background stuff, I came across a rack, a movie rack,

[10:37] and thinking that, remembering that you guys did this podcast, I was going through it.

[10:41] Now I found The Last Godfather that I'd heard about, and I'll tell you the backstory on

[10:47] it, but I found different versions.

[10:49] I found a $3, a $4 version, and a $5.

[10:53] So the same movie in three different editions.

[10:55] Yeah.

[10:56] Correct.

[10:57] Price to move.

[10:58] With a $1 difference per disc.

[11:01] And so the question I have is, are they thinking someone's gonna see the $5 and be like, that's

[11:06] a little much, and then see the $3 and that suddenly seems like a bargain to them?

[11:10] This one is just right.

[11:13] Or do they see the $3 and they're like, well, I don't want to seem like a cheapskate, I

[11:18] guess I'll get the $4.

[11:21] The clerk knows me.

[11:22] I come in here all the time to buy my brokeries, and I don't want him to think I'm a cheapskate.

[11:26] I don't want to get the $3.

[11:28] I might as well get the $4, but at that point, it's just a dollar difference.

[11:31] Yeah, I'm screwing around with this dollar.

[11:33] Let me just move up to the $5.

[11:35] $5 makes you no scratches.

[11:36] I know it.

[11:37] Cory knows how they come.

[11:39] Look, $3 means barely watchable, okay?

[11:44] For the $2 extra, you get a nice clean film.

[11:49] Or maybe the $3 movie at 40 minutes in, it just cuts off.

[11:54] The text just comes up on screen, for more, put in a dollar.

[11:59] We are recording this on May Day, and I can only assume that the $3 version is for your

[12:04] Occupy Wall Street types, and that the $5 version is for the 1%.

[12:10] That's their version of the last Godfather.

[12:11] That is the income inequality gap right now, yeah, is $2.

[12:16] So about the high-end version, and to deliver this to you guys, yeah?

[12:23] Crystal clear, picture and sound, really the way the movie was meant to be seen, which

[12:28] is ironic since the movie was not meant to be seen.

[12:31] Really was, but with some name actors in the movie.

[12:34] This is a movie that, we should say, this is a film written, directed, and starring

[12:38] by a man named Hyung-Rae Shim, who is one of the top comedy stars in, and science fiction

[12:45] stars in South Korea.

[12:47] He actually was the star of a long-running children's science fiction film series in

[12:50] the 80s.

[12:51] There's like at least eight installments of it, and he directed a previous flophouse

[12:58] entry, D-Wars, Dragon Wars.

[13:01] Yeah, D-Wars colon Dragon Wars.

[13:03] Or either that, or it was Dragon Wars colon D-Wars, I can't remember which.

[13:08] But he directed that, and so this is, he is a big wheel in the South Korean film industry.

[13:13] So big that he tried to make his last godfather's foray into the American market.

[13:20] Crossover hit.

[13:21] Sure.

[13:22] This is also, this is a movie that in Korea is called The Dumb Mafia.

[13:25] So we'll get it.

[13:26] More accurate.

[13:27] So he, but who are some of the big name stars that he has in this, some surprisingly big

[13:31] name stars?

[13:32] Harvey Keitel.

[13:33] Harvey the Kite Keitel.

[13:35] And as Christian Slater would put it, doing a little crash-grab action.

[13:40] You can tell that he, his heart is not exactly in this role.

[13:44] He has a crying scene that is...

[13:46] Yeah, he sort of shakes his shoulders a couple of times, he indicates.

[13:51] Also Coen Brothers favorite, John Pulido.

[13:55] Kevin Smith favorite, Jason Mewes is in this.

[14:00] What's her name from, was it House of the Devil?

[14:01] The lead actress from House of the Devil is the romantic lead in this.

[14:06] And when we tell you a little about the movie, you'll be surprised there's a romantic lead

[14:09] in this film.

[14:10] And John Panette, a very funny Canadian comedian playing...

[14:14] Is it The Large Gentleman?

[14:16] Yeah.

[14:17] I've seen him around in a lot of films.

[14:18] He's in a lot of films.

[14:19] A classic bit, you go now at the Chinese buffet, do you know that one?

[14:24] I don't know that one.

[14:25] Yeah, it's great.

[14:26] That's his solo.

[14:27] Oh yeah, no, I think that from the days of Comedy Central when it was just clips of stand-up,

[14:32] I remember that.

[14:33] I was racking my brain, I looked at the IMDb and I was like, I don't recognize, I know

[14:38] I recognize this guy, but I don't know what I've seen him from.

[14:41] And now like...

[14:42] He had some classic bits.

[14:45] It's when Comedy Central was giving out those half-hour comedy specials in 1992, 93 that

[14:51] made like Gabriel Glazes and Mitch Hedberg and Nick Schwartz and sort of famous, John

[14:55] Panette had one as well.

[14:57] And his bits that everyone just, him at the Chinese buffet eating everything and then

[15:04] you go now, you go now.

[15:08] And then Hervey Village as the Batman.

[15:10] Wait, what?

[15:11] I don't remember that one.

[15:12] Yeah, yeah.

[15:13] I am the Batman.

[15:14] Those were his two bits.

[15:15] Well here he's just kind of playing a fat, bumbling gangster.

[15:20] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[15:21] He did a great job.

[15:22] He didn't do it.

[15:23] But so here's the...

[15:25] So as we said, Yung Ray Shim stars, writes, directs.

[15:29] It's a tour de force.

[15:30] He's a real auteur in the world of The Last Gangster, The Last Godfather.

[15:34] I keep wanting to call it The Last Gangster, which is an Edward G. Robinson movie from

[15:37] the 40s, totally different movie in that there is less, there's about a hundred percent less

[15:43] Korean man-child romance in that.

[15:49] And so The Last Godfather, should I just mention the plot very quickly?

[15:52] Yeah, you should.

[15:53] Just run through it quick.

[15:55] Harvey Keitel is a gangster.

[15:57] We're introduced to the fact that we're in the past in New York by some film footage

[16:02] of the old Lower East Side, the literally stock footage in black and white.

[16:06] I thought it was the 30s, then about 40, 30 minutes into the movie, someone's watching

[16:10] a television.

[16:11] So I was like, oh, I guess this is the 50s.

[16:14] That's a little different.

[16:15] But Harvey Keitel is an aging mobster.

[16:19] He's tired of being the head of the family and his right-hand man assumes that he's going

[16:24] to become, his right-hand man, Tony, assumes he's going to be named as the next boss.

[16:29] But it turns out Harvey Keitel has a son.

[16:32] And he wants his son to be the boss.

[16:33] A son no one knew about.

[16:34] Yeah.

[16:35] Nobody.

[16:36] Except, I guess, Harvey Keitel, who just stuck him in an orphanage for a number of years.

[16:40] To protect him, I think.

[16:41] Oh, yeah.

[16:42] To protect him from his enemies.

[16:43] That's right.

[16:44] When he was on the run hiding.

[16:45] It's like Spider-Man.

[16:46] You know?

[16:47] Yeah.

[16:48] It's too much responsibility.

[16:49] The villains are going to always strike out the ones that he loves the most.

[16:51] Yeah.

[16:52] That's why he's the masked mobster.

[16:55] So it turns out years ago, when he was a young man, he was on the run from a mob war and

[17:00] went to Korea.

[17:02] And there, fell in love and had a son with a Korean woman.

[17:05] Now, it's time for that Korean son to come back and take over the family.

[17:09] Thus enters our hero, who is kind of like, how do you describe?

[17:15] He's like, if Harpo Marks was really, like, not charismatic, or like if Forrest Gump was

[17:21] about ten times dumber.

[17:23] Harpo Marks were, like, 20 years older and Korean and maybe, like, not just like an imp,

[17:33] but mentally deficient in some way.

[17:35] He seems like he is, pardon the word, retarded.

[17:38] Sort of like a Roberto Benigno's Pinocchio kind of character.

[17:42] And he is bad at everything.

[17:44] He doesn't really understand English, but he says it.

[17:46] He'll repeat English phrases.

[17:48] He's just like your classic, like, clumsy innocent.

[17:51] But to the point where, and he is too old to be playing this type of character.

[17:56] We saw on his IMDb that he was born in 1958, playing Harvey Keitel's son, who was born in 1939.

[18:04] Young Ray Shim clearly lies on his IMDb page.

[18:09] Because he is...

[18:09] And I look approximately the same age.

[18:11] They really do.

[18:12] Yeah.

[18:13] If anything, it looks like Harvey Keitel is his son.

[18:16] But maybe that's overstating it.

[18:19] But he is, and he's just like this.

[18:23] It seems like it is a guy who, one of these, like, someone who should be in a home.

[18:29] You know, in a place where he has a nurse watching him at all times.

[18:31] Or can't harm himself.

[18:32] Yeah.

[18:33] Sure, but this character, Young-Goo, that he plays...

[18:36] That's what the character's name is, Young-Goo.

[18:38] And this is a character he's played in many movies, apparently.

[18:41] That's right.

[18:42] Like, this is a character that he does, it's like his Mr. Bean, I guess, or like his...

[18:46] His Little Tramp.

[18:47] His Little Tramp.

[18:49] He's in different adventures.

[18:51] And one of the movies that you mentioned on his IMDb page is Young-Goo Meets Count Dracula.

[18:55] Yes.

[18:56] Which I want to see so badly now.

[18:58] Because this is a comedy, but it's a comedy that at times you're watching it and you're

[19:02] like, like, is this a prank?

[19:04] Like, is this...

[19:05] It feels like this is, like, when Tim and Eric's movie should have been this.

[19:10] Like, this bizarre gangster comedy that stars this person who cannot speak English that

[19:16] well, in the movie at least.

[19:18] And is playing this really mentally challenged character for laughs.

[19:22] And Harvey Keitel has to take it seriously within the world of the movie.

[19:26] Sure.

[19:27] And then, so, the...

[19:29] Here he is right away when Harvey Keitel explains this.

[19:32] And then he says, here he is now.

[19:34] And this cab drops the nun.

[19:37] And we end up seeing later, the whole thing...

[19:40] The premise is that this orphanage in Korea is relocating.

[19:45] To the United States.

[19:47] Which never happened.

[19:48] They have no money.

[19:50] These orphans.

[19:51] It just moved the whole thing.

[19:52] Like, I guess it was built on an ancient Indian burial ground before, so they got to move

[19:57] the orphanage.

[19:58] The nun's got a really great business offering.

[20:00] York. Well, we got to move the orphans.

[20:02] Look, we got to take advantage of this.

[20:04] Tax break for orphanages in New York now.

[20:06] So, Yungu gets dropped off and says here,

[20:08] and then, to thank the nun,

[20:10] Harvey Keitel presents her with a fur coat

[20:12] and a bottle of Chianti.

[20:14] Because he's Italian.

[20:16] And Yungu is overjoyed to see his father.

[20:20] The other mobsters are like, this is kind of weird.

[20:23] Cut to, the next scene is they're all eating together

[20:26] and Yungu is just tearing through watermelon, like crazy.

[20:29] And everything he does is so physically exaggerated

[20:33] to the point where it looks like he's in pain

[20:35] when he's doing comedy.

[20:37] But anyway, to make a long story short,

[20:39] there's another family, the Arch-Nemesis family,

[20:42] headed by John Pulido.

[20:43] And Jason Mewes is his right-hand man, I guess.

[20:47] But he's kind of a bad guy.

[20:50] It's a remake of Miller's Crossing, is what you're saying.

[20:52] Pretty much.

[20:53] Two warring mafia families, one of them headed by John Pulido.

[20:56] And John Pulido's daughter is an innocent.

[21:00] She works with the orphans at the orphanage,

[21:02] even though the orphanage just moved there.

[21:05] And long story short, they try to make Yungu into a mobster.

[21:09] At first, it looks like he's not going to be able to do it.

[21:12] He's a big embarrassment.

[21:13] He can't fight. He can't do anything correctly.

[21:16] At one point, he's in a park and there's a push cart

[21:19] where someone's selling lingerie

[21:21] and he just starts putting woman's bloomers on.

[21:23] It doesn't make any sense why he's doing these things.

[21:26] But then, so he decides,

[21:28] they try to teach him how to run a protection racket.

[21:31] They try to teach him how to torture a guy.

[21:33] They try to teach him...

[21:34] By the way, this is the hero of the movie,

[21:36] the childlike innocent.

[21:37] And the movie is supposed to make you wish,

[21:40] like, oh, Yungu, you gotta learn how to be a mobster.

[21:42] Come on.

[21:43] Shoot the guy, Yungu. Come on.

[21:45] It's not like these are good mobsters or something like that.

[21:48] They have a protection racket.

[21:49] He's supposed to shoot a guy at one point.

[21:51] But things aren't working out,

[21:53] even though he really takes well to torturing someone with ice.

[21:57] Yeah, so they cut the scene leading up to that,

[21:59] and they must have,

[22:00] because all of a sudden, inexplicably,

[22:02] Yungu and Jon Panette are just sliding a guy

[22:05] back and forth over a large block of ice.

[22:08] While singing Christmas carols.

[22:10] And Yungu's shoveling ice cubes into his underpants.

[22:15] Into the guy's underpants.

[22:17] It seemed effective,

[22:18] but it seemed like an effective method of torture.

[22:20] Really? Yeah, he did not like it.

[22:22] Who would?

[22:23] Yungu has a flair for sadism.

[22:25] A flair for pain.

[22:27] He's like a child.

[22:29] But Yungu falls in love with the daughter of the opposite guy.

[22:33] Things are not looking good for him.

[22:35] It looks like he's not cut out for this mob life.

[22:37] Then he snaps.

[22:38] And he just walks through town,

[22:40] walking into businesses and saying,

[22:42] you give me money.

[22:43] I'm mafia.

[22:44] I'm mafia.

[22:45] And then fixing their businesses.

[22:47] He tortures a woman with hairspray to the point that

[22:50] she suddenly has a beehive hairdo that she loves.

[22:53] He goes into a dress store and tears the woman's dress

[22:57] so that it becomes a miniskirt.

[22:59] The woman loves it.

[23:00] He walks into a hamburger, like a diner,

[23:02] where we see a customer take one bite out of a hamburger

[23:06] and then put it down and walk out.

[23:08] And there's also like a pile of hamburgers on the inside.

[23:12] This is what happens with every customer.

[23:15] Yungu walks in and, to make his point,

[23:17] slams a hamburger patty down, slams a second patty on it,

[23:20] then adds lettuce, pickles, whatever.

[23:23] Special sauce.

[23:24] Special sauce.

[23:25] Sesame seed bun.

[23:26] He's invented the Big Mac.

[23:27] So this is the most brilliant section of the movie where

[23:30] Yungu, in his anger and attempt to become a mafia man,

[23:33] invents the beehive hairdo, the miniskirt, and the Big Mac.

[23:36] Yungu is the father of the modern age.

[23:38] And he has made everyone so happy.

[23:41] And the neighborhood is so economically revitalized.

[23:44] And he made us happy.

[23:45] I think at that point we really did start liking the movie.

[23:48] Turned around.

[23:49] We really fell under the spell of the film at that point.

[23:51] By the point we realized that this movie makes no sense.

[23:54] And we're just supposed to accept that Yungu is a bad guy

[23:58] who causes good things to happen through evil.

[24:00] Anyway, so the neighborhood is economically revitalized

[24:03] to the point that Yungu is a hero.

[24:06] When he and his father walk through town,

[24:08] people just press things into their hands,

[24:10] food, wine, bananas, marinara sauce.

[24:13] At one point there's just a woman waiting for him.

[24:15] An extra is standing.

[24:17] He's down the block.

[24:18] There's an extra already out, set with marinara sauce,

[24:22] just ready to hand him.

[24:24] It's well-directed, is what you're saying.

[24:27] Everything's natural.

[24:28] Yung-ri Shim.

[24:31] Auteur.

[24:32] Korea's master.

[24:34] Let's just call him Korea's Steven Spielberg.

[24:36] We know it's true.

[24:39] After that, there's a lot of gangster double-crossing.

[24:42] Jason Mewes.

[24:43] Jason Mewes wants to sell out his boss.

[24:45] He tries to make a deal with the lieutenant,

[24:49] with Harvey Keitel's lieutenant,

[24:50] who you think might take him up on it.

[24:52] He thought he was going to get this big job,

[24:53] and now he's been passed over in favor of, let's face it,

[24:57] a retarded guy.

[25:01] But he says no.

[25:02] He has loyalty.

[25:05] And Yung-gu saves him, rescues him from being kidnapped.

[25:09] Everyone's friends.

[25:11] Yung-gu has a fantastic day out with John Pulido's daughter.

[25:17] What do they do?

[25:18] They just kind of wander around.

[25:19] Montage stuff.

[25:21] Ice cream.

[25:22] Ice cream.

[25:23] He goes to remove a bee that's on her shoulder in a way that

[25:26] makes it look like they're having sex.

[25:28] You wouldn't kill a fly.

[25:30] And it turns out it was a bee.

[25:32] Yeah.

[25:33] And at the end, she says, oh, you really wouldn't kill a fly.

[25:37] Then that was a fly.

[25:39] So they end up, it looks like they're.

[25:41] That was the big problem with the movie.

[25:42] She said fly.

[25:43] The script girl should have been fired for that one.

[25:45] This was an A-plus film.

[25:47] Ladies and gentlemen of the jury.

[25:48] Until that moment.

[25:49] Are we to believe this is supposed to be some sort of striped fly?

[25:52] But they're being followed by Jason Mewes and his little gang,

[25:56] his brother.

[25:58] And they see young goo all over Nancy.

[26:04] Yeah.

[26:05] Nancy is the daughter in a way that makes it look like he's just right

[26:09] in broad daylight in the front seat of the car, just going at her.

[26:12] And this happens for about a second.

[26:15] And then the guy, one of the guys goes, that's stamina.

[26:18] But like, it makes you wonder what this guy's home life is like.

[26:22] He can barely keep it up for like a second, you know?

[26:24] Yeah.

[26:25] Two seconds of dry humping.

[26:27] And that's it.

[26:28] Apparently.

[26:29] That's stamina, guys.

[26:30] Am I right?

[26:31] What?

[26:32] No?

[26:33] It's the 50s.

[26:34] But I wonder what it was like for the actress playing Nancy to have to

[26:39] play these romantic scenes with this bizarre character who's being played

[26:44] by a South Korean man who says he's in his 50s but is possibly older and

[26:50] who is also directing the scene.

[26:52] And it's just the romance between them is so completely unbelievable.

[26:55] I mean, at this point, as an actor, you think you're making a film that's

[26:58] only going to be seen in Korea.

[27:00] So it's like one of those, like, I'm going to be the spokesperson for Ben

[27:03] Affleck.

[27:04] But in English language.

[27:05] We've got some, you know, Japanese cologne that you're going to be

[27:07] advertising.

[27:08] So they're just, I just don't understand.

[27:10] I think they did get actors that everybody needs to work.

[27:13] Yeah.

[27:14] And you get this offer.

[27:15] A job is a job.

[27:17] And you just sort of take the money and break out with a Korean guy.

[27:23] And they didn't really.

[27:24] Humped by Youngu.

[27:25] The old Hollywood adage.

[27:29] She's going through the script.

[27:31] When I read exterior car, Nancy is humped by Youngu.

[27:35] It didn't quite hit me physically what was going to happen in the scene.

[27:39] So, okay, there's double crossing, triple crossing.

[27:42] Jason Mewes is on a rampage.

[27:45] He arranges it.

[27:46] So it looks like Harvey Keitel kidnapped Nancy, leading to a both sides of

[27:51] the mafia battle war.

[27:53] Like a face off.

[27:55] Face off the same street.

[27:56] Tommy guns everywhere.

[27:58] Harvey Keitel and John Pleto start to talk.

[28:00] Say maybe this isn't the right thing to do.

[28:02] But Youngu.

[28:03] Guess whose gun goes off.

[28:05] Gun goes off.

[28:06] Suddenly it is an all out shooting war and people are dying.

[28:10] This is not a comedy shootout.

[28:14] Like at least 20 people get shot today.

[28:16] And just in the street.

[28:18] And it's not like boing.

[28:19] It's not like one of those movies.

[28:20] Earlier in the movie a bomb went off prematurely and the guys that were in

[28:24] the explosion, they just have tattered clothes and like soot all over their

[28:28] faces.

[28:29] Like it's a cartoon.

[28:30] But here people are getting shot and falling off of fire escapes.

[28:32] Like they're dying.

[28:33] There's blood on their scalps.

[28:35] Blake Clark who's the cop who you may have seen in Adam Sandler uses him a

[28:40] lot because he's an old stand up comic.

[28:43] He's just showing up periodically.

[28:45] To the point, I think in the second appearance you forgot he was in the

[28:49] movie altogether.

[28:50] He's like the police chief or something.

[28:52] He's just a cop.

[28:54] At first you're like, okay, the cops are going to get, there's going to be

[28:57] trouble when the cops try to catch Youngu.

[28:59] No, they just show up every now and then and have like his car gets blown up

[29:02] or like they run away from something.

[29:05] Yeah.

[29:06] In the end they show up for one last time and all the mafia cock their guns

[29:11] and they run away.

[29:12] And that's the last we see of the cops.

[29:14] I think they're trying to establish this is a city without law.

[29:17] This is what happens without a firm hand to keep the criminal element in

[29:20] check.

[29:21] But the other thing about like all these people dying at the end of this

[29:23] movie is like this is not a dark comedy.

[29:26] Like if this was like, the tonally, if this was a dark comedy, you know,

[29:31] you could, I would laugh if like the hero accidentally sets off a blood bath

[29:36] and then like, okay, this shocks me into laughter.

[29:39] Now this is like a goofy comedy with like, you say,

[29:42] boing sound effects and stuff.

[29:43] And then at the end it's like, well, okay, this guy caused everyone to die.

[29:47] He killed everyone.

[29:49] And Youngu was just left standing.

[29:51] See, that would be a...

[29:52] He's the last godfather.

[29:54] But no, he doesn't kill everybody.

[29:56] Oh, I get it.

[29:57] He saves Harvey Ketchum.

[30:00] tells life

[30:01] does showing harvey kaitel the error of his ways

[30:03] in having a gunfight

[30:05] uh... they call it into the gunfight nancy shows up she's she's been saved

[30:09] uh...

[30:10] and

[30:11] harvey kaitel and john plato were like we shouldn't you're right we shouldn't

[30:13] fight each other

[30:14] we should work together like real mobsters do

[30:17] and

[30:18] jason mewes is mad at young gu

[30:20] and challenges him to uh... to a duel i guess like a face-off

[30:24] except they're five feet away

[30:26] they're so close to each other there's no way either one can miss when they

[30:30] shoot like

[30:31] and jason mewes for it feels like about thirty minutes

[30:34] twirls his gun on his fingers

[30:37] i still don't understand what that was

[30:40] he clearly has not practiced this either like he can twirl his gun on his finger

[30:45] as well as i would say any of the three of us

[30:48] i mean not as well as young gu because young gu tries and he can't do it

[30:52] the uh... it's

[30:54] you and me

[30:54] we're gonna shoot each other

[30:57] okay let me do some gun tricks first and then young gu tries to do the gun trick

[31:00] and shoves the gun right into his fly so that's a classic young gu by the way

[31:06] there's a lot of bits in this movie that feel like classic young gu he tries to pick up his hat but he keeps kicking it by

[31:11] accident uh... he does a little dance then he falls over a trash can it's a movie

[31:15] built around with settings where like so they go in there in the weight room at

[31:19] one point yeah weight room there's a self-defense class the brassiere stand is classic young gu

[31:27] young gu is the this is my breakout movie i'm doing all my classic material

[31:31] this is time for the hits the best of young gu yeah

[31:35] so

[31:36] but then he says okay on the count of five

[31:39] we're gonna shoot each other okay

[31:41] so on the count of five and young gu shoots him and he goes ah what did you do that for

[31:46] you said five you say five i said count of five bang shoots him again

[31:52] why did you do that you say five i said count of five shoots him five a third time

[31:58] and that's the end of the gunfight and jason has the best line of the whole movie

[32:03] he's just lost everything

[32:04] and everyone knows he betrayed his godfather he's probably gonna get killed

[32:08] he's just been shot a couple times by young gu and he goes

[32:10] ah he's so stupid

[32:15] thesis statement the movie is like yeah if you didn't get it by now we're just gonna say it young gu is stupid

[32:22] just in case there's anyone in the audience look we gotta wrap this movie up just in case anyone

[32:26] is did not get the point let's just stop being subtle okay

[32:31] uh and everyone's happy young gu is gonna be the new godfather the two

[32:36] crime bosses are gonna divide up the city between them and be the lords of vice in in new york

[32:40] you take the judges i'll take the wharf you take they're divided they literally are dividing

[32:47] at the garden party yeah and they've but also as part of this they've signed over their personal

[32:53] assets to young gu which makes no sense uh and young gu takes all that money and gives it to

[32:58] the orphanage and then he and nancy drive off it is so wealthy they have relocated from seoul korea

[33:04] they are an international they're a global orphanage but they don't have any money but

[33:08] then i also like i love the last line of the movie which is something like they're like oh we're

[33:12] happy now but not until my dad catches us or something like that he goes but when my dad

[33:16] catches us and because that's the sound of putting your finger across your throat yeah and it's like

[33:21] oh young gu you're gonna get killed but uh that i we did mention there's this there's a lot of

[33:26] upsetting scenes in this oh no well we can circle back now okay but this is this is a movie that

[33:32] like we you you left the dvd case out on my desk with a note saying you know found this in a gas

[33:38] station enjoy and from the cover i was like this is going to be a stupid comedy but i had no idea

[33:43] what i'd like transcendentally stupid comedy it was going to be in terms of like like at times

[33:50] it felt like the movie was playing this triple game of like okay this is a really shitty comedy

[33:56] but we know it's a shitty comedy and we're doing it on purpose but maybe we don't but we are but

[34:02] it's possible we don't but we do but like it's i couldn't tell at any given point what anyone was

[34:08] thinking when they were making this at one point where uh young gu is uh drinking away his troubles

[34:14] and the um yeah he's at a whorehouse at a whorehouse uh doing and really he starts with

[34:21] you know two or three beers and then in a couple cuts where it's what 40 beers the bar is covered

[34:30] in beer bottles like all lined up like it's ridiculous he had no less than 40 beers definitely

[34:37] no less than 40 yeah so he goes over and we think he's gonna vomit but jason muse and his brother

[34:44] pop up from behind the chair and then sneak out right behind young gu they're following him young

[34:53] gu rounds a corner now we're in an exterior shot and they say there he goes

[35:02] like they've been sticking it out from outside as if they were waiting for him and not

[35:06] in the building with him usually inches behind him sneaking out behind him they're also they're

[35:12] gonna inject him with a poison and young there may be a foot behind young gu talking normal

[35:19] conversational tones okay jab him with this and if you put all of it in he's gonna die and there

[35:25] are extras walking around like just going about their day coming home from work i guess closing

[35:29] up the brassiere stand yeah and it's like nobody bats an eye at two men with a syringe in their

[35:35] hands talking about how they're gonna kill a guy who's right in front of them but also when that

[35:39] when the guy is about to kill him he like every time he does it he does the biggest wind up before

[35:45] like like and then he stopped because young gu of course looks around but it's as if someone if

[35:50] someone today was doing a parody of an abbott and costell routine they would do that they would do

[35:54] like okay i'm gonna i'm gonna do it right now in just another whoa okay i just scratch in my ear

[36:02] nothing nothing on here all right just okay gonna put it right in it is uh these are not good

[36:08] gangsters they're not good at what they do uh but i would mention it's just there's something about

[36:13] young who is the lovable hero uh and in the course of this movie we see him bully three shop owners

[36:19] with violence uh he steals pennies from children that's true threatens them with a gun he tortures

[36:25] a man with a block of ice he hits i don't know how many people with a baseball bat in the head

[36:31] and also lifts up a maybe the worst choreographed scene of all time this baseball lowest yeah

[36:41] nothing they couldn't even do anything to speed it up they didn't rehearse everything is like one

[36:45] take in this film that take goes on a long time uh there's this is the scene where he's being he's

[36:51] supposed to be taught self-defense so they're gonna go at him with baseball bats and he's gonna

[36:55] defend himself and yeah they just end up hitting each other with baseball bats for a long long time

[37:01] oh i thought you were talking about the scene where he said young goose saves oh yeah he hits

[37:05] a lot of people with baseball bats in that one too yeah it's another one yeah where it's like

[37:09] everyone's moving slow it's like the whole thing was shot underwater like there's there's no there's

[37:14] no urgency where's the urgency young gu one thing i like about this movie is most comedies have

[37:19] like that you know logic well most of them that's sort of what i'm going with this like most

[37:24] comedies have some thin pretext for their comedy set piece this movie takes away any motivation for

[37:33] for like a comedy thing happening like when he's in the park there's a scene you know where young

[37:38] goose sitting in the park and he looks over and oh there's a brassiere cart in the park there's a

[37:44] there's a for some reason in the park there's a there's a cart selling ladies undergarments

[37:50] which he goes over and he's like oh he pokes all the cups the bra every cup as if there might be a

[37:55] boob hitting him and then he finds a big bra yeah one point goes oh too big and then he takes

[38:03] some uh some undergarments bloomers or something bloomers and he just puts them on

[38:08] and there's no reason that he would do that he's curious he's the eternal child going to make a

[38:14] funny fight scene yeah to save nancy from uh from uh when he has to fight he does not have his full

[38:20] range of motion because he has bloomers half on and half he also has a secret weapon which i have

[38:24] to assume is a young gu trademark which is that his shoes smell bad and so he knocks people out

[38:31] with the smelly shoes he wakes people up with the smelly shoes yeah they take life he's like

[38:36] they give life he's an elixir he uh superpower he's using the shoes and he never really makes

[38:43] great use of them but those smelly shoes they're in there he does a lot of uh he just does dumb

[38:50] stuff he's so stupid he's so stupid they even has the thing it doesn't have a thing where he's at a

[38:57] party and he falls asleep and dreams of dancing with nancy and when he wakes up he's hugging the

[39:02] like an ice bucket like the champagne uh yeah champagne holder yeah it is like oh boy ellie

[39:08] you were quite taken with just the way he walked in one scene there's a scene there's a scene where

[39:13] he just goes to answer the phone and he's just got this big grin on his face and he's just

[39:17] jauntily walking up the phone swinging his arms back and forth like a cartoon mouse or something

[39:23] it's just these things that he he is shorts with great big buttons on him at that point

[39:30] but uh written by uh young yeah young ray shan young ray shim directed by young ray shim and

[39:35] starring young ray shim as young goo i mean you can't say that this wasn't his vision

[39:40] up there on screen it's all up there yeah but i mean budget for something like this

[39:45] i'll have to assume 400 500 million dollars i think six to between six and ten i can see that

[39:52] yeah i think well i mean i assume it was funded with with korean money that he could go to the

[39:56] people who usually make his movies but lionsgate did it

[40:00] The distribution is that yeah, they did appear to only have one city block that they can work with, but that was a big, that was a big set like they had. Yeah, that's it. Fox. I think they're using Fox or universal for that. Is that we have you been? Have you seen those sets? Yeah, there's one a big, there's a big New York street at Fox. I'm pretty sure that was Fox. Was that is there a, is that a painted background? They had a lot of just obviously painted backgrounds.

[40:27] That was, it looked like a, this Kincaid, uh, where it was, it was, I've never seen the, cause usually they put them so far in the distance that maybe there's like, this is like a stage. Yeah. Like these were just flats. It really did look like it was, as some scenes were done on the stage, but it was like a cheap looking, expensive looking movie or an expensive looking cheap movie, you know, I mean the way it was lit at some points, I mean, when they were outside and how bright.

[40:57] Yeah. The actors were during the tomato scene. Oh, the famous tomato scene. Well, that's the other thing is like Harvey Keitel's character is so much supposed to be Don Corleone, obviously. Like he dresses like him. He has office looks like it. And so like, well, the godfather has seen where he's in a garden, so we're going to have to put them in a garden. So they're just like a container garden.

[41:18] They actually got, they rented this house and with grounds and, uh, I feel like they shot for two weeks and they spent 6 million bucks and maybe 3 million went to the actors because I, I gotta say to get Keitel that's going to cost money. Yeah. I think he gets this offer and it's for a million bucks or 750 cause he needs that name to sell this. If this is going to be, but I mean,

[41:48] maybe everybody else I'm table for lies and illusions. I was paid $5,000 and that's for how many weeks work. I did. I worked for three weeks and I flew back and forth from LA to Spokane.

[42:02] Is that even, is that even like a actors guild scale? I mean, what is it? No, this is a non-union job. This is a book. Yeah. Scab job. They paid him in actually not even in cash. They paid him in gifts certificates. That's how off the books it was. And, um, but I think that Christian Slater was making a million bucks or at least $500,000.

[42:33] I know their budget for that was, um, I think it was about 4 million and we, um, I mean they had a crew that it looked, they definitely were on some sort of lot shooting there's and those locations aren't cheap.

[42:47] This looked like, I mean, it didn't look like an amateurish film. This, this one, it looked like a poorly made film, but like by professionals, you know, and for you saying for two weeks, it was the number one movie in Korea.

[42:59] Actually. Yeah. For this was the number one movie in South Korea for two weeks. Um, let me look at, let me pull up my, my, let me pull up my last Godfather facts here. Uh, do I though there, I think, like I said, I think, you know, it's known as dumb mafia.

[43:14] Uh, it's logging into his last Godfather app on his phone. First two weeks of 2011. So the weekend of January 2nd, the weekend of January 9th of last year, number one movie at the box office. Uh, this is other movies that were number one in the box.

[43:28] So Megamind number one of the box office in Korea for one week, two weeks of the last Godfather, then one week of Megamind three weeks of something called detective K uh, battle Los Angeles, number one for two weeks, King speech number one for one week.

[43:44] So last Godfather's hold on the Korean box office was better, was longer than King speech Thor Megamind fast five. Of course, then there's Kung Fu Panda too, which was number one for four weeks. Uh, is there a way to go?

[44:00] Box office mojo type of thing and figure out what they did in terms of money on this. Well, it says admissions, so I don't know if that's money or if it's ticket numbers. Um, but you know, this was not, this didn't, this, this was not a direct to video in South Korea.

[44:19] This was a big hit, but I assume it's because that younger name was the new chapter.

[44:24] When I got from the producers on this lies and illusion things that it's all about the foreign box office. And so when you name down to the name of our movie movie, um, they were very clever about that because they want to pick things that people can identify with and that'll translate well.

[44:42] And my brother was on a plane coming home from Mexico and was watching a guy watch lies and illusions in Spanish on his laptop. And he said, this guy. And in my brother, you know, in Spanish, he goes, what do you think about that movie? Oh, it's very good. I love this movie. This is a good movie.

[45:01] So their standards are so low in other countries that something like lies and illusions is going to make money. Yeah. And young is going to be funny.

[45:12] There's some movie. I remember reading about some movie that I think Jessica Simpson was in that was released like two years later on DVD here, but I think it was number one of the box office in like Belarus for a couple of weeks.

[45:25] The standards in other countries are super low, which is crazy when you consider how low American standards are for number one box office movies. Like a lot of shitty movies become number one of the box office, but in other countries, they're like, Oh, beautiful masterpiece. Oh, delicious.

[45:39] Have you seen Fast Five? I have not seen Fast Five. Oh, that should be one on your list for sure. Is it not too much production value? No, I mean, that's we can do it. We do plenty of big movies. Oh, it's horrible. Yeah, it really is bad. Better or worse than The Last Godfather. Oh, come on. It's not fair.

[45:56] Because The Last Godfather is so amazing, or I don't know how this didn't. The only reason this didn't get nominated for best foreign language film at the Academy Awards is because it's not a foreign language. No, I didn't mention the reason. The reason why I know about this movie is from a friend of mine, Ken Siegel, who was the sound guy on a TV show I did with Rock Hill Welch and Jeffrey Chamber called Welcome to the Captain. Stuart was Stuart on that.

[46:24] Stuart has far fewer failed pilots than you do.

[46:29] Yes, I've been in, before going to The Daily Show, a couple series that didn't make it past a year. And Ken Siegel was the sound guy on two of those. Welcome to the Captain, this last one I did with Hank Azaria called Free Agents. But while I'm on Free Agents and getting mic'd up, Ken's like, I've got this movie.

[46:52] I know you're about to go to work.

[46:54] You've got Yungu here. Let me set the whole thing up. It says Yungu.

[47:00] Let me give you the story so far.

[47:02] So Yungu, this is his love interest. This is the daughter from the rival mob boss. They're going to an orphanage and watch Yungu hand out women's clothing to the boys.

[47:15] There's a scene where they, because she's a charity person. She goes to the orphanage and he goes with her and he's got a box that just says like orphan donations on it or something like that. And he's handing out high-heeled shoes, a dress to the boys and runs out of toys.

[47:31] So he starts giving his clothing to the kids, including the famous smelly shoes, which means you're then gifted with the image of Yungu in just boxers and a bow tie, like trying to cover himself with balloons because he's bashful.

[47:47] Giving a coy look as he puts a helium balloon in front of his crotch.

[47:51] And Nancy's reaction to this is like, oh, Yungu, you're adorable.

[47:56] Daddy, he's sweet.

[47:59] You don't understand. I don't want you hanging around with that Korean boy.

[48:04] That's a good Polito.

[48:06] Oh, thanks. He was in my voiceover agency. I used to see him all the time.

[48:09] Oh, really?

[48:10] Yeah. How you doing?

[48:12] He lost a lot of weight at one point.

[48:15] Yeah. You know what? He would bring, I think he'd bring his, somebody would bring a kid in.

[48:20] Toledo Polito?

[48:22] Toledo Polito. That's right.

[48:26] Hey, Toledo, sit right here. Don't make any noise. I'm going to go do a couple spots.

[48:34] Okay, Dad.

[48:36] That's the higher pitched, scrabbly voice.

[48:39] Okay, Dad.

[48:41] That's right, Toledo.

[48:43] It really means to stop smoking.

[48:45] No, that's the Polito way.

[48:48] So, yeah, he, Ken recommended this movie.

[48:53] This is dedicated to Ken Siegel.

[48:56] Ken Siegel, it turns out, sound guy in Reservoir Dogs.

[49:00] We just looked at it. I know we did Malcolm in the Middle.

[49:03] He did the entire run of Malcolm in the Middle.

[49:06] But I Love You, Man, and just recently, The Five-Year Engagement.

[49:11] Oh, so this is a guy who knows, so this is not like…

[49:15] Knows movies.

[49:16] This is not just some guy from nowhere.

[49:17] No, Ken Siegel.

[49:18] This is a guy who found a place in his professional heart.

[49:20] And I'm going to send this to Ken. He'll be so happy to hear that we're doing this.

[49:25] You're spreading the gospel of the last godfather.

[49:28] And young Ray Shim.

[49:30] And the genius that is young Ray Shim, who is very celebrated in South Korea.

[49:35] But I don't know, we're running low.

[49:37] We should close the book on this.

[49:38] We usually close the bad movie discussion part by saying,

[49:43] by our final judgments, saying whether this is a good bad movie, a bad bad movie,

[49:48] or a movie we actually kind of liked.

[49:50] And we just go around the horn.

[49:51] Elliot, what do you say?

[49:52] Good bad movie, I've got to say.

[49:54] And to the point that I kind of liked it because I could not understand what was,

[49:58] like it baffled me so much.

[50:00] But there's something about just taking a very rote, like very rote, stupid comedy and

[50:08] dropping in a character who is totally just baffling and extreme and I don't know what

[50:16] anyone was thinking then.

[50:17] I enjoyed it actually.

[50:18] I thought it was going to be a bad, bad movie and I was thinking bad, bad movie right up

[50:23] into the scene where, and this is a turning point for all of us, when young Goo changed

[50:30] the world.

[50:31] When he brought about the modern age.

[50:34] Yeah, no, I agree, this is a good.

[50:37] It was like suddenly became an episode of Mad Men.

[50:39] This is a good, bad movie.

[50:41] This is a movie that like, yeah, I straddle the line almost between kind of liking it

[50:45] too because there's scenes where he busts out like such corny, old comedy strokes.

[50:52] Stealing material from like Buster Keaton.

[50:54] Yeah.

[50:55] And he doesn't do it well per se, but the fact that he's trying at all, I just really

[51:00] appreciate it.

[51:01] It helps that I've never seen this guy in anything before, so I have to assume he's

[51:05] exactly like the character all the time.

[51:07] And he's just not even a character, like he's just bumbled his way to incredible success

[51:13] in the Korean film industry.

[51:15] All right.

[51:16] Well, we're going to skip over the mailbag for a week and just go quickly to the recommendations.

[51:33] Movies that we saw recently, or maybe not so recently, that we liked and would recommend

[51:38] in lieu of watching a bad movie.

[51:41] I kind of want to recommend The Last Godfather.

[51:43] Godfather is pretty good.

[51:45] So quickly, if we have things, Elliot, do you have something you want to recommend?

[51:50] Sure.

[51:51] I'll recommend, speaking of bad movies, this is not a bad movie, but it's about bad movies,

[51:56] which is, there's a documentary that Dan and I both watched recently, actually, that's

[52:00] on Netflix streaming at the moment called Papatopoulos, which is about the director

[52:05] Jim Wynarski, who, if Roger Corman is the king of B-movies, then Jim Wynarski is like

[52:10] a grand duke or maybe like a prince.

[52:13] He's directed a ton of really crappy or varying levels of crappy exploitation in B-movies

[52:19] over the years.

[52:20] I mean, he did direct Chopping Mall, which is pretty great.

[52:23] Chopping Mall, which is, yeah, which is a classic of B-movies.

[52:26] He directed the Swamp Thing sequel.

[52:28] He directed a number of movies that are now shown late at night on Cinemax.

[52:34] And this is what this movie is about, which is, he wants to make a movie in three days.

[52:40] This is this movie called The Witches of Breastwick, which is a softcore porn film.

[52:44] And he says-

[52:45] I've seen it.

[52:46] I'd be lying if I said I hadn't seen that movie before I saw this one.

[52:51] But he, his goal is to make it in three days and he and the actors are going to live at

[52:56] a cabin together, the same cabin they're going to shoot the movie in, and they're going to

[53:00] shoot the film and finish all shooting in three days.

[53:04] And then he's going to sell this movie to cable.

[53:06] And it's kind of about the compromises he has to make now in terms of working faster

[53:11] and cheaper than he ever did before and more sex based to get his movies sold and to make

[53:17] them and kind of the demise of the B-movie industry where you don't have this world now

[53:22] where you can do kind of a low budget movie with maybe a slumming star and expect it to

[53:28] play in theaters and make a little bit of money back or make a lot of money back.

[53:32] And now you basically have a huge movie of, you know, like $5 million or $10 million or

[53:39] up to $200 or you have these tiny, tiny budget movies for like $100,000 that are more and

[53:44] more just pornography.

[53:47] And it's a really interesting movie and there's some just some interesting scenes in it about

[53:52] people shooting a movie in very close quarters in a very quick schedule.

[53:58] And there's a lot of women in it with big boobs because the movie they're making has

[54:01] a ton of big women in it.

[54:03] That's Wynarski's trademark now is just women with big boobs.

[54:06] And he says in the movie, he says, this is my two things in the movie, a big chase and

[54:10] a big chest.

[54:11] And this movie that they're making does not have a chase in it.

[54:14] So I think he goes double down on the chest.

[54:17] Exactly.

[54:18] Double D on the chest.

[54:19] I'm not sure.

[54:20] You know, it's going to be a while for me to come, it took a while for this to happen

[54:24] for me to come on.

[54:25] And it took Stuart to go to Puerto Rico.

[54:29] I'm going to tell two stories.

[54:31] I think that Al deported Stuart on that plane.

[54:37] Two tickets showed up at his door as he opened up his mail, Puerto Rico, hey, honey, we love

[54:44] Puerto Rico.

[54:45] Did you enter the Madrigal Sweepstakes?

[54:47] So me and my wife, not Bimo, but my wife on our first date, I knew I was going to marry

[54:56] her because I said, who is your she said, who's your favorite actor?

[54:59] I said, who's your favorite actor?

[55:00] And she said, Bruce Campbell.

[55:01] Nice.

[55:02] So I knew I was going to marry this woman.

[55:05] And I really didn't know at this that moment.

[55:08] And then I had another one.

[55:13] I'm sorry.

[55:14] I got so...

[55:15] I assume the other story is about you masturbating to witches or breast wick.

[55:18] No, but it is.

[55:20] Thank you for reminding me.

[55:21] But then I see which is a breast wick.

[55:24] And I had an affair with, yeah, the blonde witch.

[55:29] The whole point I wanted to make is that with these movies, there's so many scripts out

[55:36] there and so many people that aren't working.

[55:39] Me and my friend had an idea that we were just going to make a movie, but we were going

[55:42] to cast and the whole thing and get our director from Craigslist.

[55:47] So I started placing Craigslist ads for directors and other things.

[55:52] So I did this thing with Rainn Wilson, where we found a location for, and it was a porn

[55:58] star's mansion in Encino, California, but we found it for $250 a day, which is crazy

[56:06] cheap.

[56:07] She needed money.

[56:08] And so we had this...

[56:09] I think a porn star is trying to keep up a mansion.

[56:10] Yeah.

[56:11] Yeah.

[56:12] You need money, Ben.

[56:13] So, and then it led us to going on Craigslist and placing all kinds of ads for directors.

[56:19] It was taken down within a half hour, but in that half hour, I got 30 different resumes

[56:23] from directors that were capable of directing a movie.

[56:28] I got offers from guys with grip trucks saying, if you put me in your movie, I'll let you

[56:34] use my grip truck.

[56:36] So we got all of these different resumes and everything from Craigslist.

[56:40] So it was our idea that we could make a Craigslist movie and get the screenplay from Craigslist,

[56:46] the locations from Craigslist, all of the actors from Craigslist, and just completely

[56:50] make this Craigslist movie.

[56:53] So what happened?

[56:54] Which I'm trying to do with, I now know this guy who works at S.T.A.R.S.

[57:01] And so I want to make, I want to film a documentary.

[57:05] I want to film this movie being made, but made entirely from internet, like the best

[57:11] person we could find for the least amount of money.

[57:13] That's the greatest idea.

[57:14] The way the government would do it.

[57:17] So I am trying to do this, but these resumes were amazing.

[57:23] First unit director on my, I think, Michael Bay film, the, what did he do with Ben Affleck?

[57:32] Pearl Harbor.

[57:33] There was a guy that came in, one of the Pearl Harbor.

[57:35] Somebody who's used to working with big productions.

[57:38] That could potentially do this, to just have been in these underling roles the entire time.

[57:42] So yeah, and that's, that's my idea.

[57:44] You're really taking advantage of the slump that the film industry is in.

[57:48] Anyway, so yeah, I just want to, that can be done.

[57:52] I'm trying to do this.

[57:53] So now I know you guys donate to the podcast, but if you want to donate to this movie effort,

[58:00] don't pander to them.

[58:04] You're pandering to the listeners.

[58:07] That's it.

[58:08] That's it.

[58:09] I just, uh, no, I'll never be on again.

[58:11] No, just keep sending to Puerto Rico.

[58:14] That's your recommendation though.

[58:15] You're Craigslist.

[58:16] Oh yeah.

[58:17] No, I did a movie that doesn't exist.

[58:20] I recommend making my movie.

[58:22] My recommendation is, um, I just saw the girl with the dragon tattoo and which we were talking

[58:28] about.

[58:29] Um, but I liked quite a bit.

[58:30] I thought that was, I didn't, I didn't have any desire to see that when it came out in

[58:35] the theaters and, but you saw it right away and you were disappointed with everybody else.

[58:39] He saw it midnight, Thursday night of opening.

[58:43] But we talked about this on the podcast once, like it's weird, like that, that, that was,

[58:47] they tried to make that counter-programming, like they had that come out around Christmas

[58:51] and that was not a good idea.

[58:53] They thought it'd be clever to like, okay, we're going to have an alternative to, you

[58:59] know, the usual stuff that comes out of Christmas and thing is people like the usual stuff that

[59:04] comes out of Christmas.

[59:05] They schedule that for a reason.

[59:06] Yeah.

[59:07] Uh, my kid's favorite movie in this, uh, if you had to have kids out there, uh, my kids

[59:11] love Clifford with Martin Short so much.

[59:14] I know people who, who are diehards.

[59:17] Now you have not seen this?

[59:18] No, it's a movie that I haven't seen, but I've, I have a friend of mine, my friend Dan

[59:22] Brooks has been trying to get me to see it for a while now.

[59:24] It's awesome.

[59:25] He's just insane about it.

[59:26] And I guess it was, that was a flop and then that became this sort of cult.

[59:30] I mean, I remember when it came out, it was like, I just, I remember when that movie came

[59:33] out and Martin Short was on Letterman's show and Letterman was like, Clifford, it's a great

[59:37] movie.

[59:38] Saw it last night.

[59:39] Great.

[59:40] And it was, I think it was the first time I realized he didn't see that movie.

[59:42] Like the hosts of these shows don't see the movies they're talking about.

[59:46] And it's awesome.

[59:47] It really is good.

[59:49] So if people haven't seen it in a while or they haven't seen it at all, you've got to

[59:53] find Clifford.

[59:54] So Clifford, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo and your Craigslist movie.

[59:58] Craigslist the movie.

[1:00:00] And I guess honestly if I if Elliot hadn't recommended I might have recommended Papatopoulos, but I recommend a different one

[1:00:07] No, no, I I went on I saw

[1:00:11] Cabin in the woods like a lot of our listeners probably did and I really enjoyed it

[1:00:17] I'm not into cabin movies. Sure. I like the woods part, right? I don't believe that person

[1:00:23] but uh, I

[1:00:25] You know, I'm a fan of Joss Whedon in general, but this movie also I just think really plays very well

[1:00:32] to all types of audiences my wife

[1:00:35] Saw it with me and she doesn't necessarily

[1:00:38] Love horror movies the way I do. Although she does have a strange fondness for Piranha 3d like

[1:00:44] like Elliot and I

[1:00:46] Do but um saw it on my wedding day

[1:00:49] But uh, yeah, it was great

[1:00:51] The worst I could say about it would be that because it is such a sort of a deconstruction of horror movies

[1:00:57] You don't necessarily get super emotionally involved with the characters

[1:01:01] But it's very clever and very funny and we're talking about on this way over here on the subway, you know

[1:01:06] Frank Kranz who's in the movie who I worked with and welcome to the captain where Ken Siegel

[1:01:13] Did the sound it's like?

[1:01:17] He's amazing

[1:01:19] And he's um, you know currently working on death of a salesman might come by the show and say hi

[1:01:25] To that. Oh, really? I'm gonna see the final performance. Oh, wow

[1:01:28] Yeah, well, he was terrific and I I was saying that I really loved him also on dollhouse as Topher

[1:01:35] Topher Grace funny. Yes Topher Grace. He was playing. He's playing the actor Topher Grace

[1:01:39] I'm what was he playing Dave Eggers younger brother Topher. Yes from a heartbreak. Oh, they're staggering genius. He's playing all Topher's everywhere

[1:01:47] I was going to say when you said Joss Whedon, it sounded like you said Jaws Whedon

[1:01:53] with metal teeth

[1:01:55] Just directing movies and then biting down on bar on pipes. I

[1:02:00] Think that's a pretty amazing image to wrap the show up on so unless you gentlemen have anything else. Oh, we should say

[1:02:07] We should reveal. Oh, should we reveal what our the movie is gonna be? Yeah, we did not

[1:02:12] Do the trail of clues about what our life flophouse movie would be

[1:02:17] And forgetful. Well, the last episode was our 100th episode and in the excitement of tango cash

[1:02:22] We forgot to leave another truth

[1:02:25] The tiredness of us being tired

[1:02:28] But June 8th, June 8 Friday, June 8th 8 p.m. 92 why Tribeca the website has already spilled the beans

[1:02:34] We're gonna be having our third flophouse. I love bad movies bad movie screening

[1:02:40] Live event live event running commentary by the floppers us and

[1:02:44] No, Stewart. I will be there in a

[1:02:52] Movie we're gonna be showing is quiet cool starring James Remar

[1:02:57] This is an early 80s James Remar action. I'm gonna say classic

[1:03:02] About a New York City cop who plays by his own rules who has to head out to the Pacific Northwest to stop some murderous pot

[1:03:08] growers

[1:03:09] The pot grower henchmen all have different haircuts

[1:03:11] And there's an opening scene for James Remar that involves a chase between a purse snatcher on

[1:03:18] Roller skates and James Remar riding a motorcycle

[1:03:20] And it's pretty awesome and speaking of murder. There's a very good chance that I die leaving Dan's sketchy apartment

[1:03:31] So

[1:03:32] So Al doesn't get stabbed on the way out, but quite cool June 8th for the flop house. I've been Dan McCoy

[1:03:38] I'm Elliot Kalin and I'm

[1:03:45] No, I wanted to do the cat thing, oh you can do it one last time if you want just just just don't let Stewart know

[1:03:53] This is our secret

[1:04:02] Oh

[1:04:12] The house gets brother is here

[1:04:15] It's cousins gonna be so mad

[1:04:19] Well, maybe you should have shown up. Yeah, he's very rather than going to Puerto Rico with his wife. Yeah

The Flop House: Episode #101 - The Last Godfather

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