Ep. #227 - 1941

[0:00] Hey everybody, it's me, John Hodgman, the new host of The Flophouse.

[0:28] This is an incredible special episode of The Flophouse because it's Max Fundrive.

[0:34] I'm here with my inferior co-host, Elliot Cameron, Dan McCoy, and Stuart Wellington.

[0:42] And this show now belongs to me.

[0:44] And that's just the way it is.

[0:45] How are you guys doing?

[0:47] I guess we're starting the show.

[0:49] You really rested control in the power vacuum.

[0:52] All right.

[0:53] Well, let's go to a break.

[0:55] Okay.

[0:57] Give a little time to the child within you.

[1:00] Be afraid to be young and free.

[1:02] I'm hoping in the new regime I can fulfill the role of bully henchman.

[1:07] Like a crab Goyle type.

[1:10] You're the guy who, when Hodgman's plan is defeated at the end by the hero,

[1:14] you go over to give him some solace and he pushes you away in anger.

[1:18] I don't remember which one it was, whether it was crab or Goyle.

[1:24] But one of those young actors, I was like, that guy's got a future.

[1:27] and I have never been more wrong.

[1:29] Now, Draco Malfoy's on The Flash.

[1:34] That's how far his future went.

[1:36] Oh, wow.

[1:36] That's the top thing that he can be,

[1:40] is an actor on The Flash.

[1:41] Let me make it clear.

[1:44] I would like to be on The Flash.

[1:45] Greg Berlanti, I am here, and I am in wardrobe.

[1:49] I'm wearing a Flash costume as we speak.

[1:51] The part of The Flash is already cast,

[1:54] but he could play any number of characters.

[1:56] Yeah, there are many different Earths.

[1:59] The Flash villain, the turtle, who was super slow.

[2:01] That would be great.

[2:03] I was going to make a joke about that,

[2:04] but apparently that's a thing that exists.

[2:05] He was a real character from the Silver Age stories.

[2:07] Here's what he would do.

[2:08] He'd rob a bank.

[2:09] He's already been on the TV show.

[2:10] Oh, really?

[2:11] Excuse me, Bully Henchman, shut him down, please.

[2:13] He's already been on the show, Elliot.

[2:16] Thank you so much.

[2:17] And he can't be the trickster, because that's Mark Hamill.

[2:19] From the old Flash show.

[2:21] Is he in the new Flash show, too?

[2:21] He's in the new Flash show, too.

[2:22] Elliot, come on.

[2:24] I haven't seen this new Flash.

[2:25] Who plays Miramax?

[2:26] Yeah, I don't know.

[2:28] Miramax?

[2:28] So if you were going to pick a Berlantiverse show to be on.

[2:31] Flash's greatest villain, Miramax.

[2:33] Would it be, or would you like to be like a rival millionaire on Arrow?

[2:38] If I were going to be in a Berlantiverse show?

[2:41] Yeah.

[2:41] Supergirl.

[2:42] Supergirl.

[2:43] Supergirl.

[2:44] Not Legends of Tomorrow where you could play like an Old West cowpoke who brings out Jonah

[2:48] Hex.

[2:48] Here's what I have to say.

[2:51] Arrow has no claim on my heart.

[2:54] Uh-huh.

[2:55] The Flash, they're full up.

[2:56] They don't need me at all.

[2:58] Stuffed.

[2:59] Yeah, they already got five what's-his-names.

[3:02] Who's the actor?

[3:05] The guy from Tom Cavanaugh?

[3:07] Tom Cavanaugh.

[3:08] They got five Tom Cavanaugh's.

[3:09] Yeah, Tom Cavanaugh's all over that shit.

[3:11] Who's he playing?

[3:12] Many different characters.

[3:14] Oh, Professor Zoom?

[3:15] No, that's a different bad guy in this.

[3:18] Okay, so there's two different first flashes?

[3:20] I'm talking to my friend Stuart about the Berlanti version.

[3:23] Look, I'm just confused about whether we actually started the show or not.

[3:25] This is apparently a flash cast.

[3:27] You heard me start the show, right?

[3:29] That's true, yeah.

[3:30] Okay, so it's goddamn started.

[3:32] I just assumed since we immediately then went into flash talk without even pretending that we watched it.

[3:37] All right, be quiet, Elliot.

[3:38] So if you were going to ask me seriously about which Berlanti Bird show I'll be in,

[3:42] it really would be a tie for Legends of Tomorrow or Supergirl.

[3:46] And here's the deal.

[3:47] Flash is full up.

[3:48] They've got all the character actors they need.

[3:50] Lots of Ed Cavanaugh's.

[3:51] Oh, Elliot.

[3:53] I thought you were going to help me with this

[3:56] Would you please wedgie Elliot while I talk

[3:59] Thank you

[4:00] I'm menacingly slapping a sap

[4:03] Against my palm

[4:04] That seems way harsher

[4:06] Can you buy sap spices

[4:08] Where do you buy that

[4:10] Wedgie and you're going to blackjack the man

[4:13] Just go get a wedgie hook

[4:15] Down in the 7-Eleven

[4:17] Dan I have two questions for you

[4:19] No let me answer my question

[4:22] i i would want to be in supergirl because she's such a supergirl

[4:27] you're talking about calista flockhart no no she's not even on the show anymore

[4:32] they moved they moved it over to the cw and she's no longer on the show she's not gonna be not even

[4:37] as a hologram no she's not gonna be on a cw cw can't match her quote the cw has a restraining

[4:43] order against calista flockhart yeah because they were dating for a while and she they broke a cw

[4:48] was like i'm sorry this is not working for me and she was like i can't have you no one can have you

[4:52] and she started stalking people she burned down one tree hill and and they had a confusing order

[4:58] now it's no tree hill with sean young um maybe yeah so i guess i would be a legend of tomorrow

[5:04] for sure okay i think you and victor garber would be great together oh what if i played young victor

[5:10] garber i built a good ship for you rose would you be in godspell if you're playing young victor

[5:16] Garber. Or the even younger baby

[5:18] Victor Garber. Alright, well

[5:20] once again, it relies to me, John

[5:22] Hodgman, to bring this thing back

[5:24] on track. This is the Flophouse.

[5:26] This is the Flophouse.

[5:28] It's a podcast. It's a podcast.

[5:30] Where we watch a bad movie. And then we

[5:32] talk about it. What's special about this

[5:34] episode, Dan? Well, one special

[5:36] thing is we have Mr.

[5:39] John Hodgman with us. And why do we

[5:40] have that? Because it's a bonus

[5:42] episode that we're doing. Because it's

[5:44] the max fun drive i thought i thought i thought it was because we were friends

[5:47] but by bonus you just mean extra this we're not releasing extra episodes people are listening to

[5:55] this right now yes okay people are not like they're not like i don't remember going to a

[5:59] secret hallway and unlocking a special door with my key code no you're this bonus episode you're

[6:04] right that i should differentiate bonus episodes because there are certain things called bonus

[6:08] episodes that have something to do with the max fun drive yeah we'll talk about much the same

[6:12] way flammable and inflammable are the same you use bonus for two different reasons uh i think

[6:17] that's the opposite of what happened but go on the word cleave means its own opposite oh that's

[6:23] true you have to split and to hold together and speaking of cleavage we just watched the movie

[6:27] 1941 directed by that much cleavage in it oh did you not see the nancy allen scenes no i mean

[6:34] those were the those were well i don't look i i don't want to discuss your viewers by reminding

[6:40] them that i am a sexual being but this movie 1941 directed by steven spielberg is one of the most

[6:48] profoundly disturbing provocative and erotic movies in my young childhood it's a real late

[6:54] consequence that's as good that's as good a tease as any for us to now talk about the max fun drive

[6:59] and then get back to the erotic awakening of young john hud i don't want to stop uh the max

[7:06] Fun Tribe is a very special time. So first off, what's

[7:09] Max Fun? Maximum Fun is

[7:10] the podcasting network that we belong to.

[7:13] It has many great shows,

[7:14] including John Hodgman's show, Judge

[7:16] John Hodgman. And now the flop house, Judge

[7:18] John Hodgman's show.

[7:19] And now, and Maximum Fun is thus called that because

[7:22] it is the maximum amount of fun the human body can

[7:24] have without shutting down. Yeah. If you'd had

[7:26] any more fun than you get from these podcasts. You'd go into

[7:28] renal failure. Oh, your rens would fail

[7:30] immediately. Yeah. You would have the most

[7:32] failingest rens.

[7:34] And it's almost exclusively listener-supported.

[7:38] It's always been a listener-supported network.

[7:39] Yes.

[7:40] That means you, the person who's hearing this.

[7:42] Oh, I thought you meant me.

[7:44] Basically.

[7:44] I don't know.

[7:45] I don't know what you do with your money.

[7:47] Basically, all of our money comes from donations from people like you.

[7:50] There are people out there I know saying, you lying assholes.

[7:55] I listen to you do ad reads every week.

[7:58] Don't undercut the selling.

[7:59] On the Plop House.

[8:00] No, no, but that's a fair point.

[8:01] We do do ads.

[8:03] We do do ads.

[8:04] In that we kind of poop them out.

[8:05] We don't do a great job.

[8:06] But 80% of the money, oh, yeah, Elliot's the CFO of the Flophouse.

[8:14] Well, I'm the treasurer.

[8:15] As the treasurer and secretary of Housecat Productions, the corporation that owns the Flophouse.

[8:19] We mainly do ads because they're fucking awesome and hilarious.

[8:22] And they're only for products we believe in, like Mack Weldon, the underwear I'm wearing right now.

[8:27] But anyway, the thing most of the—

[8:29] I can tell because I'm wedging you.

[8:31] The vast majority of the money we receive comes from viewers, and by viewers I mean listeners, like you.

[8:38] I don't know what you're looking at while you listen to this, so just call yourself a listener.

[8:41] How about something good?

[8:42] But it means a lot to us.

[8:44] It's true we did this podcast for a long time gratis, for free.

[8:48] But since we joined the Max Fund Network and we started making money for it, it means we're able to put more time into it.

[8:53] We're able to do a slightly more professional job.

[8:55] We're able to really make this more of a focus of our creative efforts.

[8:58] Generally longer episodes.

[9:00] longer episodes, more often episodes.

[9:03] We're able to fill in for the McElroys when they have babies

[9:06] by doing episodes of their D&D podcast.

[9:10] And it also helps us to feel the confidence to perform,

[9:14] knowing that people care enough about us

[9:15] to show us that love in the form of...

[9:18] Hatchman's eyes are rolling.

[9:20] They're rolling out of his skull, across the floor,

[9:23] into a little mouse hole.

[9:25] Well, I mean, I'm sorry you lack the confidence.

[9:30] First off.

[9:30] To watch a terrible movie and talk about it for an hour.

[9:32] The mice are using the eyeballs as beanbag chairs.

[9:35] I'm just wondering why Dan hasn't closed up all the mouse holes in his apartment.

[9:39] I guess he's hoping for friends to climb out of there.

[9:43] Oh, that's sad.

[9:44] I watched Max Magician, Legend of the Ring.

[9:46] Yep, that's a callback.

[9:49] So did I.

[9:50] And after watching that movie, you were inspired to drill mouse holes into the walls.

[9:54] That's right.

[9:55] In hopes that a magical character will show up.

[9:57] And you hung signs all over the neighborhood that says, cheese available.

[10:00] Ask for Dan.

[10:01] Joke's on you.

[10:02] A magical character did show up and pooped all over my food.

[10:05] So we'll talk more about the MaxFunDrive later, right?

[10:10] Yes.

[10:10] That's just a little teaser.

[10:11] It's your chance.

[10:12] And what's the URL for that, Dan?

[10:13] It's MaximumFun.org forward slash donate.

[10:16] We'll talk more about what you get when you do donate.

[10:18] When you do donate.

[10:20] When you do donate.

[10:22] We'll fix that one in post.

[10:22] Yeah.

[10:23] Paul, what was the post guy's name?

[10:25] Doug.

[10:25] Doug?

[10:26] I'm so sorry, Paul, Doug.

[10:27] Paul's his first name.

[10:30] He prefers to be referred to by his middle name, Doug.

[10:33] Let's go back to how 1941, perhaps the least liked movie in Steven Spielberg's career, not counting Crystal Skull.

[10:38] What about Always?

[10:39] Yeah, Always is a pretty good.

[10:41] I feel like Always, people say like, well, it's nice to see Audrey Hepburn at that point in her life.

[10:45] There's nothing about like that in 1941.

[10:48] You think it doesn't feel good to see Robert Stack at this point in his life?

[10:51] No, that's a fair point.

[10:52] All right, anyway.

[10:53] But John Hodgson, you referred to it as being a part of, I guess, what helped you discover doing it.

[10:59] So how old were you when this movie came out in 1979?

[11:02] Well, I was born in 1971.

[11:04] Dan, can you turn the lights down?

[11:05] Set the mood music.

[11:09] That's my fucking bit.

[11:15] So I was born in 1971.

[11:19] The movie came out in 1979.

[11:21] You do the math.

[11:23] I was brought to it by my dad for reasons that I now severely question.

[11:29] Because, as you know, your dad would usually see a movie first to preview it and make sure it was okay for you, then take you to it.

[11:34] So you knew it was happening.

[11:36] It was a PG movie, and it was branded as a comedy.

[11:40] And I feel like he might have been misled to some degree about the content of this film.

[11:48] He might not have known.

[11:49] Had you seen the previous Steven Spielberg movies?

[11:53] no given any indication of being a huge fan of that director you were a big shughead as

[11:59] sugarland express fans were known yeah i uh i i i'm sure that i did not i did not see jaws i had

[12:07] not seen jaws at that time i may have seen close encounters i know that i had seen annie hall with

[12:14] my babysitter which is technically not a steven spielberg movie but it's hard to not know that

[12:19] it's not no but i remember i know the kinds of movies it was it was a time because of the

[12:24] expertly timed chase scene woody allen goes well there's that part where diane keaton reached out

[12:28] her finger to woody allen and then she went back home to her home planet right it was a time it

[12:34] was a time when children were being brought to the movies because irresponsible adults

[12:39] wanted to take two hours out of their lives and see and and movies were made for grown-ups at

[12:45] that time and there was that the kind of movie that fell into the no man's land between pg and

[12:50] r right pg-13 rating did not exist yet exactly so it was like until what red dawn the flamingo

[12:56] kid post post grems and templa dumbs okay uh as some people would call gremlins and devil doom

[13:03] they didn't like them i like both of those movies greater or lesser degree was templa pg-13 movie

[13:09] it was not that but that was the one that that was the one that really ran pulled that heart out

[13:14] that dude's chest yes but because there were because there were no boobs they were like this

[13:18] is good for kids was red dawn the first red dawn was the first pg-13 i thought i thought it was uh

[13:24] the flamingo kid with um uh they might have come out at the same time i don't know well in any case

[13:29] there's no way to research it we just don't have the technology there was there was no amount of

[13:35] pulling out of chest temple of doom that that scarred me and in and titillated me as much as

[13:45] uh going to see 1941 with that nude lady at the beginning of the film a parody of jaws

[13:54] and a film he had not seen at that point no i had no so and i have this big this vague memory that

[14:01] We went to the Cleveland Circle Theater in Cleveland Circle, Brookline, Massachusetts.

[14:08] And if a Kickstarter doesn't start right now, to put a plaque up on that theater to commemorate your scene 1941.

[14:13] Oh, it's been torn down.

[14:13] Well, whatever building's there, put a plaque up.

[14:16] The Cleveland Circle Theater.

[14:17] I think the ground round is still next to it, so you can put a plaque there.

[14:20] John Hodgman ate his weight as a kid after seeing 1941.

[14:26] That's where I went on my first friend date with my wife, Catherine Fletcher, actually.

[14:30] So you could put a plaque there for sure.

[14:32] But we went there.

[14:35] I know that we went to the Cleveland Circle.

[14:37] And my memory is that we arrived late to 1941.

[14:41] It was already 1942 by the time we got there.

[14:44] Yeah, okay.

[14:44] And it was like, welcome to the Fimmer, McGee, and Mollie show.

[14:47] Don't open that closet.

[14:50] Clink, clink, clink, clink, clink, clink.

[14:52] The sound of people turning off a podcast because they don't understand the reference.

[14:57] Stuart checks his phone.

[14:59] What's new in the world of role playing games?

[15:01] If you want to see what Stuart's checking on his phone right now, just switch to Sap.

[15:05] Now let's check in on Jack Benny and Rochester and what they're up to.

[15:10] Which is also 1941.

[15:12] I mean, 1941 referenced a lot of weird old culture that doesn't exist anymore.

[15:18] Well, my dad and I showed up and I think we were like 20 minutes late.

[15:21] And I'm like, I don't want to go into movie 20 minutes late.

[15:24] My dad's like, I'm going in.

[15:25] Even as a child, you're like, this is not the way this film was meant to be seen.

[15:29] Precisely.

[15:30] And the funny thing about it was, this movie was not meant to be seen.

[15:34] And my dad went in to see it, and I just waited until the next showing.

[15:39] And then he very graciously let me come in.

[15:42] And we watched it again.

[15:45] What is weird about that is that he'd already seen the movie.

[15:48] That is true love for his son, that he watched it twice.

[15:51] I think he just wanted to see that nude lady at the beginning of the movie.

[15:54] fair the internet didn't exist yet it's harder to see nude ladies that nude lady so at the beginning

[15:58] of the movie a woman goes into the ocean this movie is set in the year of the title 1941 and

[16:04] it's loosely based on an incident when people started shooting into the skies in california

[16:09] because they thought they saw japanese planes but it didn't actually happen right after pearl harbor

[16:13] everyone on the on the west coast of the united states was afraid that uh japan was going to

[16:18] invade at any moment it was back when the united states was kind of gun crazy

[16:22] back then we've gotten over that now and also afraid of foreigners in a way that is just not

[16:29] really understandable to today's americans and so steven spielberg got together with john millius

[16:34] and robert zemeckis and bob gale and they're like let's make a funny comedy otherwise known as

[16:38] hollywood's comedy brain trust we're gonna take the comedy genius of john millius how can we how

[16:46] can we create some comedy genius i know right after pearl harbor we got so paranoid that we put

[16:53] every japanese american into a prison camp that's a funny idea for a comedy and they made it and

[16:59] it's called 1941 i mean they don't really cover the prison camps in this one but maybe that was

[17:03] in the bloops that we didn't see there's a whole subplot they must have cut out that that was gonna

[17:08] that was clearly gonna be the journeys yeah yeah there was so much reference like offensive

[17:14] reference to japanese american and japanese citizens it was the movie could not have possibly

[17:22] have been made today or ever it's it was uh during it seems like it was made during that

[17:28] that kind of the what's the flip of golden that brief that period when when the freedom of the

[17:35] filmings of the 70s leaden yeah like like clashed and and merged head-on with the emerging kind of

[17:42] like bro capitalist culture of the 80s in a way where suddenly it was like rich white guys trying

[17:49] to rape women is funny and like is a is a sign of heroism and freedom in a way that like i don't

[17:56] understand it but that's just how it is these days guys so there's a lot in this movie of like

[18:00] guys trying to get with women in ways that are like not even that or just make your stomach turn

[18:06] but the movie is like boys will be boys right this is pretty funny stuff come on right

[18:10] I think he's making reference to, go ahead.

[18:12] What?

[18:12] Well, no.

[18:13] But it's clearly like also inspired by,

[18:16] it feels like this was made by people who don't understand comedy

[18:20] and were like, National Lampoon is funny.

[18:22] Everybody loves National Lampoon.

[18:24] Let's just do what they do.

[18:25] Yeah.

[18:26] Totally just stick it to the broads.

[18:28] Because if there's anyone who needs to be taken down a peg, it's women.

[18:32] Even when I saw the movie.

[18:34] They almost had an Equal Rights Amendment passed.

[18:36] Almost.

[18:36] Comedy is punching down, Elliot, always.

[18:39] That's the person you're standing on.

[18:41] When I was eight years old and I saw this film, finally, after waiting in the lobby for the first half an hour.

[18:47] What were you doing in the lobby?

[18:48] Were you reading a book?

[18:51] Was John Hodgman reading a book?

[18:54] I'm trying to figure out because there weren't...

[18:56] Well, the Cleveland Circle also had an art gallery.

[19:00] Was this a sort of art gallery where you could, you know, like...

[19:07] It was basically like a coffee house where you could buy what was up on the wall for 30 bucks?

[19:11] Yeah, of course.

[19:11] Oh, yeah.

[19:12] When you sat down in the Cleveland Circle Cinema in Cleveland Circle, Brookline, before the show started, they would say, make sure to visit our art gallery.

[19:20] Excuse me.

[19:21] Make sure to visit our art gallery.

[19:23] Everything is for sale.

[19:24] And it was a mid-century modern cinema, and you could check out their modern art that was up there.

[19:31] I mean, that's pretty cool.

[19:32] I perused it for a while while I was thinking about why my dad would go into a movie without me.

[19:37] i'm eight years old i'm alone in a lobby are you saying you didn't try and earn your your movie

[19:43] fair by beating people in in arm wrestling matches or something it never occurred to me that i could

[19:49] beat anyone ever but i do remember going into the movie and then seeing the scene that you're

[19:54] discussing which is that treat williams plays uh what a member first of all this movie this movie

[20:01] has 17 000 characters they thought they were making nashville when they made this movie there's so

[20:07] many characters they're all running around they get picked up and dropped hageldy pegeldy and

[20:12] their plot lines peter out or explode at random moments and they're constantly like you're an

[20:17] hour into this movie and they're still introducing characters and you're like it i have to assume

[20:22] that like gary a middle-aged gary marshall saw this and he was like bravo this is how movies

[20:27] was supposed to be made.

[20:28] I'm going to make so many movies

[20:29] with a ton of characters

[20:30] just dumped into the grave.

[20:31] I can't wait to make

[20:32] Pearl Harbor Day.

[20:33] The movie.

[20:35] That's my terrible imitation

[20:37] of Paul F. Tompkins

[20:38] doing a great imitation

[20:39] of Gary Marshall.

[20:40] Rest in peace.

[20:41] Rest in R.I.P.

[20:42] Paul F. Tompkins' impression

[20:43] of Gary Marshall.

[20:44] Also, Paul F. Tompkins is dead.

[20:46] What?

[20:46] But yeah, no.

[20:49] So Treat Williams

[20:51] played one of the many

[20:52] 10,000 characters

[20:54] and uh he uh he was the biggest star in america at this time right oh he's a real treat to see

[21:01] in the movies and his name continues on in our halloween saying of trick or treat

[21:05] because of his short-lived partnership in a series of movies with johnny trick

[21:09] oh elliot johnny trick was a dog in real life no i'm making it up as i go along also a male

[21:18] oborosity if you're not singing i don't want to hear it anyway tree williams played a a a member

[21:27] of a tank battalion who got a a fixation upon a young woman sure who was being courted by the

[21:36] ostensible lead of the movie a character named wally played by hang on i gotta look this guy

[21:42] he's the hero of the movie much the way danny is supposed to be the hero of cat and yet disappears

[21:47] for a broad swaths of movie

[21:48] because he's not that entertaining.

[21:50] Right, exactly.

[21:50] So it's like in that moment in Caddyshack

[21:52] where the waitress goes,

[21:53] Danny, I'm pregnant.

[21:55] And you're like, wait,

[21:56] was I supposed to care about this character?

[21:57] Wait, she's Australian?

[21:58] Yeah, yeah.

[22:00] Good day, mate.

[22:01] You threw another sperm on me, Bobby.

[22:03] Does that plot go anywhere?

[22:05] What happens to her?

[22:06] In Caddyshack?

[22:07] Yeah.

[22:08] She gets hit by a ball.

[22:12] And it knocks the baby out of her.

[22:14] It knocks the baby out of her.

[22:15] The gopher steals the baby.

[22:16] Raisin is one of its own

[22:18] This movie is part in that milieu of

[22:20] A woman in a movie is pregnant out of wedlock

[22:23] And you're like, oh shit, this guy's got a real problem on his hands

[22:26] Her life does not enter into the scenario

[22:29] How does this affect this dude who was just going to be a caddy for the summer?

[22:32] I don't like that movie

[22:35] The ostensible main character in this film is Bobby DiCiccio

[22:38] He's a dancer and a short order cook

[22:42] And he is not a very good waiter

[22:44] Let's just say that

[22:45] No, well, he doesn't like to take orders.

[22:47] But also, yeah.

[22:49] It's literally a major part of his job.

[22:51] Everyone in the movie gets one defining characteristic.

[22:54] His is he loves to dance, and I guess he's a bad dancer.

[22:57] And Treat Williams' is that he hates eggs, and I guess he's a rapist.

[23:01] Our hero, though, is not.

[23:02] I don't think you have to say I guess on that one.

[23:05] Do you think that this was built out of a Second City-style improv routine

[23:10] where they're like, let's just take some suggestions from the audience,

[23:13] go away for 15 minutes, we'll write the entire script.

[23:16] Very possible.

[23:17] Like, okay, doesn't like eggs, likes to rape women,

[23:21] only gets sexually turned on when in a flying aeroplane.

[23:25] But the not like, oh, so that's another.

[23:28] So every character has a certain sexual peccadilla.

[23:33] Much like all the great comedy characters of comedy films

[23:36] have one thing that they do over and over throughout the entire movie every time.

[23:41] Just think of Charlie Chaplin, the Marx Brothers, all of them, where they have just one single thing.

[23:48] They all hung off clocks, right?

[23:49] Yeah.

[23:49] Harold Lloyd, all he does is hangs off clocks.

[23:52] That's it.

[23:53] Charlie Chaplin, all he does is eat shoes.

[23:55] That's it.

[23:55] Groucho Marx, all he does is kind of like, I don't know, smoke a cigar forever.

[24:00] And all that Harpo does, as it says is the name, is he harps on and on about the most boring topics.

[24:06] And of course, silently.

[24:08] And of course, Chico Marx is always doing this with his cheeks.

[24:11] That's it, you couldn't hear but I did a cheek sound

[24:14] No, I could hear it, it was disgusting

[24:16] You couldn't see it, Elliot was

[24:18] Carefully masturbating into the microphone

[24:20] Carefully

[24:21] So as not to hurt myself or the microphone

[24:24] Gently

[24:25] Gently

[24:27] This is quite good, but keep it gentle

[24:30] Keep it gentle

[24:32] Softer, gentler, gentler

[24:34] I don't even want to feel it

[24:35] Gentler, Elliot, gentler

[24:37] So that's how I talk to myself when I'm masturbating

[24:39] You're talking to yourself

[24:40] Cool, you affect a cool voice.

[24:42] In kind of like a British butler voice.

[24:45] Yeah.

[24:46] Gently.

[24:46] I like to be gentle.

[24:50] My sex play involves me being the guy

[24:52] who's always helping Jack Benny at stores.

[24:53] Yes, gently.

[24:55] Frank Nelson.

[24:58] Oh.

[24:59] That husband is roaring.

[25:03] I knew his name once, and now I realize

[25:06] you knew his name always, and I feel terrible.

[25:09] No, it's all right.

[25:10] So we should quickly go through just describing each of these characters, or many of them real quick.

[25:14] There's Treat Williams, the rapist who hates eggs.

[25:16] This cast is stacked.

[25:18] In fact, it has Robert Stack.

[25:20] See you guys later.

[25:21] There's the dancing waiter who wants to be a dancer and doesn't like organs.

[25:25] Bobby DiGiugio.

[25:26] Bobby DiGiugio.

[25:26] There's Robert Stack, who's a general who just wants to watch Dumbo.

[25:29] There's John Belushi, who's a crazy fighter pilot who basically just blew to the pilot.

[25:33] And is, at certain different points, barely human.

[25:36] He's just an animal in a plane grumbling and throwing things at people.

[25:40] There's Warren Oates as a general who's just hanging out in the mountains shooting things.

[25:44] There's Eddie Deason as a guy who sits on a carousel walking out for Japanese subs, and he is a ventriloquist dummy that never really pays off.

[25:51] With the mayor of Amityville from Jaws.

[25:53] There's Toshiro Mifune as a Japanese sub-commander who wants to attack Los Angeles.

[25:57] There's Christopher Lee as a Nazi guy who's with him on the sub.

[26:00] He's just along for the ride.

[26:01] He does there.

[26:01] Slim Pickens as a cowboy they pick up to get information about where L.A. is.

[26:05] That turns into a long scene about Slim Pickens having to poop at a compass on the sub.

[26:09] There's who else?

[26:10] There's Dan Aykroyd as the tank commander.

[26:12] Doesn't really tell a lot of jokes.

[26:13] John Candy as one of the supporting guys in the tank.

[26:15] Doesn't have a lot of lines in the movie.

[26:17] Mickey Rourke.

[26:18] Mickey Rourke has almost no lines, and he's just another tank guy.

[26:20] There's also, there's, what other characters?

[26:25] Oh, there's Tim Matheson who is trying to lay Nancy out the whole time.

[26:30] And the only way to do that is to get her up in a plane because she's totally turned on by flying in planes.

[26:34] When she goes up in a plane, she's magically aroused.

[26:36] So even though he can't fly, he is going to steal a plane under false circumstances and fly her up there so that he can do it.

[26:42] And then I guess crash, having fulfilled his dream of having sex once.

[26:45] Ladies and gentlemen, the listeners of this podcast, now that you've listened to this entire dramatist persona.

[26:51] I haven't even mentioned Wendy Jo Sperber, who is the dancing waiter's friend who's obsessed with Tree Williams.

[26:59] There's Ned Beatty, the dad of the girlfriend, who has an artillery gun parked at his house and learns the joy of firing it through his own house later.

[27:06] There's Joe Flaherty as a foreign-y owner of a dance hall where there's a competition going on for best dance.

[27:13] There's an actor that we just can't seem to place the name of who is also part of the tank battalion that is not John Candy.

[27:21] John Landis shows up in a brief cameo.

[27:23] There's a really dusty guy.

[27:25] Not even that brief.

[27:26] He shows up a couple of times.

[27:28] He's the dusty guy, right?

[27:29] A thing to know also is this is not the Spielberg of Saving Private Ryan.

[27:32] Spielberg directed this.

[27:33] Not the Spielberg of Saving Private Ryan who is in awe of the greatest generation, maybe a little too much, and considers them gods who landed on Earth to free us from Nazis.

[27:41] In this telling, World War II was full of slobs, yahoos, incompetents, losers, morons, rapists.

[27:48] Goofs and goons.

[27:49] Your general goofs and goons collection.

[27:52] And he's like, greatest generation, more like gooniest gooneration.

[27:57] There's got to be at least one character with redeeming value.

[28:00] Eddie Deason is a ventriloquist.

[28:02] We've said that already.

[28:03] I've got to say, Elliot.

[28:04] Now that you've heard all of the characters in this film and all of their motivations.

[28:07] I think I've mentioned one quarter of the characters in the movie.

[28:10] Clearly, you, the listener, understands the screenplay writes itself.

[28:15] You know where this is going from the beginning and where it's going to go until the end.

[28:20] I mean, we're lucky if you're still listening.

[28:22] If you didn't stop the podcast, throw your phone in a fireplace, and run out to rent 1941.

[28:27] Honestly, you list that cast and those characters, and you think, this has got to be the greatest movie that has ever been made.

[28:33] This is the reason Celluloid was invented.

[28:35] You honestly sell it pretty hard because when you describe it as it is, it is so wackadoo and out there that people out there might be tricked into thinking, oh, this is crazy.

[28:47] I'd like to see what a crazy movie they made.

[28:50] Nope, just go see Skadoo.

[28:51] That's going to do what you want it to do.

[28:53] It would be a crazy movie full of stars.

[28:54] I feel like maybe, I can't place that,

[28:57] maybe 15, 20 years later when Mars Attacks comes out,

[29:00] it kind of had the same effect where, like,

[29:02] I remember seeing the trailer and being like,

[29:04] oh my God, the night sky is dark

[29:07] for all the stars are in Mars Attacks.

[29:09] Only to be disappointed at the time,

[29:13] obviously I've come to like the movie more,

[29:16] I think, than I have.

[29:16] Except Mars Attacks, for all of its,

[29:18] I mean, that's basically a lightweight goof.

[29:21] This is the most leaden, heavy, heavyweight goof.

[29:24] Yes, heavyweight goof.

[29:26] It's like if Goofy, the Disney character, I mean, just, I guess, got divorced and lost his will to live and gained like 700 pounds.

[29:34] Like, that's what we're watching right now.

[29:36] It's a very heavyweight goof.

[29:38] It's like there's so little, there's so little sense of coherence in the movie.

[29:44] But instead of coming off like a hells a pop and craziness, it just is like, it's at a certain point your brain is just like,

[29:51] i'm just watching lights and flashes in front of my face and occasionally a long scene where

[29:56] someone's trying to have sex with a lady well there is no there's never any sense in the movie

[30:00] of who who are they trying to make fun of here like what what is the what is the hysterical

[30:05] target of who's the funny guy you know like there there's a moment where wally the dancer and bad

[30:14] short order cook says i'm not gonna take orders from you which has a certain amount of v post

[30:20] vietnam era like i'm against the i'm against the uh the like the military establishment military

[30:28] establishment but the military establishment as portrayed in that time is like we just got

[30:33] attacked by japanese like we're in the middle of a war for our existence we got attacked by one

[30:37] country and that country's ally is the most evil people in the world right like it's very weird

[30:43] it's it's a weird thing to be taken like uh i mean unless you're joseph heller and you've been

[30:48] through the war and your target is military bureaucracy or miscommunication or incompetence

[30:53] that's a different thing that well this whole movie seemed to be based on the premise that war

[30:58] is idiotic circus chaos and that it's hilarious to see things fall down and blow up

[31:04] that war is to be despised but blowing things up is super fun everyone involved and everyone

[31:11] involved in the practice of war is a craven monster or an idiot fool and that it derives

[31:20] directly from the the vietnam and post-vietnam films so mash as you mentioned elliot i'm gesturing

[31:27] towards you but you know that's a korean war film i think he was talking about the monster mash

[31:32] actually not to undercut oh i did mention that anyway it appears i was working in the lab late

[31:37] one night. Oh, we've heard about your graveyard

[31:39] smash.

[31:39] Dracula asked, whatever happened to the Transylvania twist?

[31:43] And that's a good question. Nobody dances anymore,

[31:45] but it was huge at one point. Well, because it never existed.

[31:47] I mean, for you,

[31:49] the living, this dance exists too.

[31:50] I was saying, for you, the living, this dance is too.

[31:55] Yeah, yeah.

[31:56] You just want to make sure that everyone knows that.

[31:58] That's what Lincoln said. It was rather for us, the living,

[32:00] to finish the work they left undid

[32:03] of the monster mash.

[32:07] the uh yeah the it feels like transylvania burg address yeah it feels like nobody is competent

[32:16] in any way in this including the filmmakers yeah well that's true i mean no how dare you

[32:22] sorry i apologize there are these long scenes where there's no jokes whatsoever yeah nobody

[32:27] is competent comedically in any way okay yeah yeah there's there's a few moments where people

[32:33] sell jokes

[32:34] and there's one dance scene

[32:35] which is genuinely

[32:36] like a thrilling dance scene.

[32:37] That scene's fun.

[32:38] And it feels like

[32:39] Steven Spielberg was like,

[32:40] oh, I don't need to put

[32:41] any jokes in this scene.

[32:42] This is great.

[32:43] I feel much more comfortable.

[32:44] I'm going to use this scene

[32:45] for the opening scene

[32:46] of Indiana Jones

[32:48] and the Temple of Doom later.

[32:48] Yeah, exactly.

[32:49] There are a lot of pieces

[32:50] in this that would later

[32:51] appear better

[32:52] in other Spielberg movies.

[32:53] For sure.

[32:54] Like someone standing

[32:55] on a sub as it sinks.

[32:56] I mean, I'm assuming that

[32:58] I think I read somewhere

[32:59] that that's the actual

[33:00] physical submarine

[33:01] they used for Raiders.

[33:03] well the woman who was on top of the con tower in the beginning in the beginning is the woman

[33:09] from the beginning of jaws it opens with a woman skinny dipping it's all this interconnected

[33:13] universe that i'm really into i keep talking to you guys about this marvel cinematic universe and

[33:17] how i like it is this the spielberg cinematic universe where so the uh so that woman is the

[33:23] grandmother of the woman or mother of the woman in jaws right and also that's the same sub that

[33:29] indy is on right uh what other i guess what other same similar well you know barry from

[33:35] close encounters who gets uh the little kid who gets yeah yeah yeah so stranger things is just

[33:41] his dream what whoa and the there are people out there laughing i just know that they are even

[33:50] though no one here is and the the great great grandson of as of eddie deason's ventriloquist

[33:55] dummy is Haley Joel Osment

[33:57] in AI.

[33:58] Can we talk about Eddie Deason for

[34:01] about five to six

[34:03] hours? I would love to. He's great.

[34:05] I feel like

[34:07] he and Jim Belushi

[34:09] I got

[34:11] Jim Belushi on the brain. It's huge.

[34:13] But he and John Belushi both

[34:15] play their performance. They do their

[34:17] performance as big as possible.

[34:19] Why do I much prefer

[34:21] Eddie Deason's performance? There's a lot less of him

[34:23] in the movie. Yeah. And he's playing off

[34:25] of the characters a lot of john belushi's scenes he's just by himself sputtering and throwing

[34:30] things going this movie scratching himself this movie was made when john belushi was at the

[34:36] absolute height of his fame and it was it was a matter of faith that john belushi could just sit

[34:44] in front of a camera and make a bunch of nonsense faces and that would be enough to sell john belushi

[34:50] She said, that's literally what I want to do.

[34:52] Could I just sit in front of the camera?

[34:55] Could you put a camera in front of me in a plane, and I will just sit there, and I will mug, and that will be great for everyone, right?

[35:03] When he first appears, his plane crashes.

[35:05] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[35:05] His plane like semi-half crash lands, and he gets out, and the movie like pauses for the audience to lose its shit and applaud for 30 seconds.

[35:15] Right.

[35:15] Like these people are just so excited that John Belushi is appearing for them.

[35:19] Jump onto the floor and run circles around whooping it up.

[35:23] That even though he's on the poster, his name is in the credits,

[35:28] I assume was the biggest selling point of the movie in the advertising,

[35:32] that you were going to be like, John Belushi is in this?

[35:36] I can't take the joy.

[35:40] Heart explodes.

[35:41] You're dead now.

[35:41] I assume that they also relied on John Belushi's natural charisma

[35:46] to think that the audience was not going to just be disgusted by this character.

[35:50] Because the character as presented is the most massive asshole in the movie.

[35:54] He gets everything wrong.

[35:57] He shoots down an American plane.

[36:00] Does he ever attack a woman in the movie?

[36:02] That's true.

[36:03] Does he ever drag a woman under a car while she screams for help?

[36:07] In a comedy movie.

[36:09] Later on, he used all the goodwill that he built up to be on the show.

[36:14] But Treat Williams was supposed to be a villain.

[36:16] John Belushi, I think you're supposed to like a little bit.

[36:18] Oh, you're supposed to love him.

[36:19] And he was just like a madman who shot everything that he saw.

[36:23] But he was also utterly unimportant to the plot as it was told.

[36:29] Yeah.

[36:30] The thing is.

[36:31] There was a separate movie with John Belushi.

[36:33] He's basically the Tasmanian devil, dude.

[36:35] And everybody loves Taz.

[36:37] That guy's awesome.

[36:39] I mean, he has basically the same amount of love.

[36:45] Agent of chaos.

[36:46] I'm like saying lines.

[36:46] That's true.

[36:47] A lot of the movies have him going, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and spinning

[36:50] around in circles.

[36:51] Smoking a cigar.

[36:52] There's the funniest moment he has is when he's standing on the wing of a plane.

[36:56] He falls off at once, and it's not funny.

[36:58] This movie is, so many people fall down in it.

[37:00] And I love movies where people fall down, except the movie Falling Down, which I don't

[37:04] like.

[37:04] He never really falls down in it.

[37:05] No, he never really falls down.

[37:06] But I love movies where people fall down, but it's not funny in this at all.

[37:09] But then, he gets back on the wing of the plane, and he slips and falls for real.

[37:14] And you said he ended up in the hospital because of that?

[37:16] Yes.

[37:16] And it's his genuinely most funny moment in the movie for me.

[37:20] Yeah, John Belushi falls off the wing of his P-51, I think it is.

[37:25] And they were filming, and he hurt himself very badly

[37:30] and was in the hospital for a week.

[37:31] Luckily, he lived for—

[37:32] Let's use that because it's funny.

[37:33] And it's the only legitimately funny part of the movie.

[37:36] Luckily, he went on to live hundreds of years, right?

[37:39] Yeah, he's a piece of wampir.

[37:42] I do want to say, yeah, Treat Williams is disturbing this movie.

[37:49] I turned to Hodgman at one point, and I was like, there's a woman saying, please, please help in the middle of this movie.

[37:57] She's being dragged off by Treat Williams, and it's played off as a humorous thing.

[38:02] How many times have you laughed at Oliver going, Popeye, help, help me, Popeye?

[38:05] And Bluto's like, never.

[38:08] although i haven't thought of the fact that bluto is a serial rapist i didn't think of that

[38:15] i was tempted he's literally carrying women away against their will let's have to yes let's be

[38:20] fair alleged let's uh let's put it let's put a pin in the popeye comparison because i think

[38:26] there's something very interesting there okay but i just want to say that even as an eight-year-old

[38:32] watch well maybe even especially as an eight-year-old watching this movie the treat williams

[38:37] character dragging that woman under a car jesus christ was one of the most terrifying i mean like

[38:44] and you know that was the same year in which alien came out and yeah wait have you seen alien

[38:50] well i have not seen alien at that time because that was an r-rated movie but i had my dad my

[38:57] same dad he's like we can take i only have one dad okay my dad who took me to see 1941 you had

[39:02] different dads for each movie also in a very benign dumb dumb way had bought me the comic

[39:08] book adaptation of alien which was produced by heavy metal and heavy metal the adult comic book

[39:15] magazine at the time using adults sort of charitably i mean the adult in that it had

[39:22] boobs in it yeah it was a boobie it doesn't mean adult as if it as in it was like about

[39:26] people approaching middle age and wondering i think that but if you're interested in that

[39:32] make sure to buy my book Vacationland

[39:34] coming out this fall from Viking

[39:36] it's just about

[39:37] adult themes

[39:39] it's basically heavy metal

[39:42] the appeal of heavy metal

[39:44] is to 13 year old boys

[39:46] let's not be

[39:47] naive about this

[39:49] and 37 year old Stuart

[39:50] which is essentially a 13 year old boy

[39:53] 45 year old nostalgic

[39:54] there's part of me that thinks Stuart

[39:57] that right before I met you

[39:59] you found a wizard machine that made you big

[40:01] And your actual age is only about 14

[40:04] Yep and I've been trapped in this body the whole time

[40:07] Trapped

[40:07] So I should be so trapped

[40:09] It was the most Jewish thing I've ever said

[40:11] I should be so trapped

[40:13] I should be so trapped

[40:14] No so you're trapped

[40:16] Here's the thing about Treatly's character

[40:18] Somewhere there's a 13 year old in Dudley Moore's body

[40:21] Who's you

[40:22] In Dudley Moore's body

[40:25] Rotting away

[40:26] Dead

[40:28] so so i got that so i got the alien comic book from my dad sure and heavy heavy metal had the

[40:39] the the concession the the the to make adaptations of certain r-rated and certain more adult adult

[40:46] themed films including alien and including 1941 and i got both of them and the 1941 comic

[40:53] is insane.

[40:55] It's like, I would imagine

[40:57] it's like Jack Davis, like, Mad Magazine

[40:59] crew style artwork. Yes.

[41:01] Which is what the movie is trying to be.

[41:03] It's trying so hard to be a Jack Davis movie.

[41:05] It's trying to be a Mad Magazine version

[41:07] of, it's trying to be

[41:09] a Mad Magazine parody of itself,

[41:11] basically. Yeah. Whatever the movie

[41:13] was, this is the Mad Magazine version

[41:15] of it. Was it 1940

[41:17] black?

[41:18] This movie would

[41:21] make much more sense if a big

[41:23] credit came up that said like co-directed by

[41:25] Will Elder and you're like oh that's why there's all

[41:27] this shit in the background all the time

[41:29] because he's putting all his chicken fat jokes in

[41:31] so many extras in this movie

[41:33] my lord

[41:34] I like the idea that

[41:37] in like the corners

[41:39] of the movie Sergio Aragone's

[41:41] characters are doing crazy things

[41:43] I mean there's shots where

[41:45] there's just like a women's

[41:46] legs with stockings and high heels

[41:49] just kicking sticking up out of

[41:51] the ground basically yeah and there's santa claus is getting blown up in the corner of the frame

[41:56] everywhere and things like that so here's how i would describe true williams for people who

[41:59] haven't seen 1941 and don't want to and shouldn't if you saw the master the paul thomas anderson

[42:04] movie you know the joaquin phoenix character in that who is this hugely traumatized if he was ever

[42:11] ever fully functional emotionally character who cannot communicate with others and he only kind

[42:16] of understands violence and lust at their most raw forms that's the treat williams character but

[42:22] played as a joke and also he hates eggs don't even get him started about eggs that's serve them to

[42:28] him that was the most offensive thing about this movie is that it sets up the fact that wally the

[42:33] bobby de chichio character gets a little bit of egg yolk on his uniform he's like i hate eggs

[42:38] i can't ever have eggs near me and then when he goes to the uso dance he sees some deviled eggs

[42:43] He's like, I hate eggs again.

[42:45] I just sent him off.

[42:46] He's a great Santini.

[42:48] That was another Bruce Spielberg thing.

[42:50] The payoff is that he eventually falls into a big thing of eggs.

[42:54] Exactly, like Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[42:56] Oh, I must have fallen asleep there.

[42:57] He hates snakes and he falls into a bunch of snakes.

[42:59] Here he hates eggs and he falls into a bunch of eggs.

[43:01] It's this biff in the manure moment.

[43:03] That's the script is he says, okay, this villain is going to fall in what?

[43:07] A big pile of eggs.

[43:08] Okay, let's work backwards from there.

[43:10] Let's plant that earlier.

[43:11] The Japanese sub is lost.

[43:13] so when 1941 was turned into this comic book uh the i don't remember the other artists in it but

[43:21] it was steve bassett who's a very talented oh shit creative yeah and it's in it truly is the

[43:29] mad magazine version of this movie which is the only way you could imagine this movie being

[43:33] you can't imagine this movie being a movie basically it's better as a comic book yeah

[43:38] steven spielberg wrote an introduction and and this came out the he wrote it the year before

[43:44] the movie came out and he said i can see 1941 more as a cleansing experience

[43:49] the one possible way i can make you forget all the good things i've done in motion pictures

[43:56] be merciful steven spielberg writing about his own movie well everything i mean that makes me

[44:04] like him more. He was clear-eyed about it. Of course.

[44:05] He wasn't like, get ready for the most gut-busting

[44:08] knee-slapping, side-splitting

[44:10] moment in motion picture history.

[44:11] He must have known. Step aside,

[44:13] Marxists. Step aside,

[44:15] Abbott and Costello. You met Frankenstein?

[44:17] Well, get ready to meet...

[44:19] What's John Belushi's character's name?

[44:21] Wild Bill Kelso. Get ready to meet Wild Bill Kelso.

[44:24] He had a different name in the trailer, right?

[44:26] I think the trailer for this movie,

[44:27] they introduced his character as something...

[44:29] It was Kyle Bill Welso.

[44:34] He was Wild Bill Hickok L

[44:36] Has Steven Spielberg

[44:38] Made another comedy

[44:41] I would say that

[44:42] Catch Me If You Can

[44:44] Is kind of a light comedy

[44:45] Yeah that's kind of comedy-ish

[44:47] Yeah but it's not billed as a comedy

[44:49] No it's not a madcap comedy

[44:51] Like this one is

[44:52] Well I mean Indiana Jones and the King of the Crystal Skull

[44:54] Is meant to be a parody of the Indiana Jones movies

[44:57] Where all the things you thought were cool

[44:59] Are now stupid and goofy

[45:00] That's what that is

[45:02] Take that.

[45:06] What was that?

[45:07] That was just me ending the bit.

[45:09] Nuked in a fridge.

[45:17] Diamonds on the nuked in the fridge.

[45:22] It's not as though Spielberg doesn't have comedic moments in his movies.

[45:27] No, he's very good at doing small comedic moments in movies.

[45:30] He's good at dusting his movies with comedy.

[45:32] I mean, and Raiders.

[45:34] Like Schindler's List even has a few jokes in it.

[45:36] As you say, like, it all starts with.

[45:39] No, but on set, no, it does have like.

[45:41] Right.

[45:41] It's like that is as serious a movie as it gets from that man.

[45:44] But even that has a few moments that are like tension lifters or like very brief moments of lightness among horror.

[45:52] Right.

[45:52] It's like Saving Private Ryan has some jokes.

[45:56] Like when you find out that only one brother survived.

[45:59] I mean, that's not really the joke.

[46:01] Oh, I thought that was hilarious.

[46:03] Like, Saving Private Ryan does have jokes in it.

[46:05] Like, they have that story about the guy who used to pee on all their jackets and stuff.

[46:08] It's not like a big, like, huge ensemble, you know, comedy.

[46:14] It's not like SOB or something.

[46:16] No, that's true.

[46:19] No, Raiders, I think, though, like, you gotta give it to Raiders.

[46:23] Raiders has the perfect marriage of the movie is an action movie and it's kidding an action movie at the same time.

[46:31] I feel like that and, for me, that and North by Northwest are sort of equal in that they work on two different levels simultaneously.

[46:40] And neither the comedy nor the action thriller part of it takes over too much.

[46:46] And Harrison Ford has some tremendous comic chops.

[46:50] Yeah, just watch The Frisco Kid.

[46:53] I've got this beer in my nose now.

[46:56] No, but Harrison Ford is genuinely very...

[46:58] Yeah, like in the Robertson Mechis movie, What Lies Beneath.

[47:01] A movie I saw in Germany when it was known as Der Schatten der Wahrheit.

[47:08] But seriously, like in Random Hearts.

[47:10] Regarding Henry.

[47:13] Come on.

[47:13] How dare you?

[47:14] I was just about to...

[47:15] Look, I'm going to bring it back to serious.

[47:18] You know, like in Firewall.

[47:21] What was that Irish movie made with Brad Pitt?

[47:24] The Devil's Own.

[47:25] With Brad Pitt.

[47:26] Irish movie.

[47:28] Brad Pitt plays an Irish character.

[47:30] No, that's a movie where they keep saying in Brad Pitt's terrible Irish accent, like,

[47:35] oh, it's not an American story.

[47:37] It's an Irish one.

[47:39] And I'm like, get out of here.

[47:40] Get the fuck out of here, dude.

[47:41] I'm a teenager.

[47:42] I know this is bullshit.

[47:43] With two refreshing deodorants.

[47:47] Two deodorants.

[47:48] He's kind of an Irish vampire.

[47:51] when when harrison ford says to carrie fisher rest in peace she says i love you and he says

[48:00] i know that's one of the finest lines in cinema like yeah it's it you know that is a beautiful

[48:08] comedic improvisation which we know that it was and as we were talking about when we watched the

[48:12] movie the funniest scene in raiders when he just shoots that guy was harrison ford improvising on

[48:17] set yeah perfect like that's him saying here's a better way to do the scene that also means i don't

[48:22] have to go through all this choreography when i'm dealing with diarrhea yeah am i gonna have a like

[48:26] a an end of usual suspects moment when i realize every single good harrison ford joke involves him

[48:32] having to take a shit he had a long speech and empire strikes back and he's like i'll just say

[48:36] i know and then i gotta run to the can and when can we shoot this after i use the toilet time is

[48:42] money harrison we're in golden time the sets harrison ford's bowels are the funniest people

[48:47] in hollywood yeah people say it's uh oh it's instead of get bruised it's the thing is harrison

[48:53] ford's bowels the restaurant next to the set of regarding henry got shut down by the health

[49:00] department after the movie was filmed they're like we just can't come up with a line for this

[49:06] well here's the secret i'm gonna bring in harry ford we are just gonna stuff him full of prunes

[49:11] and coffee and then

[49:13] we're going to lock him in this room

[49:14] and we're going to see what comes out of him

[49:16] whatever comes out of him is going to be hilarious

[49:19] that's true Harrison Ford's shits are hilarious

[49:22] but you know and in

[49:24] Raiders when he is in that

[49:27] that love scene with

[49:28] Karen Allen and he gets hit on the chin with that

[49:31] mirror

[49:32] that's pure slapstick

[49:34] it's a beautiful moment

[49:36] it's the one moment in Raiders where someone

[49:38] goes ahhh

[49:40] Whereas in 1941, everyone goes, ah, all the time.

[49:44] Every scene, they're like, you know what would make this funnier?

[49:46] If we had a long close-up of someone going, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[49:51] Just to remind people that it's supposed to be comedy.

[49:53] You kind of imagine Steven Spielberg coming picture in picture during the scenes going to be like, these are the jokes, folks.

[49:59] And then appearing, and then like, and joke.

[50:01] Ah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[50:04] What this movie needed was the applause sign they have at SNL where there's no joke to end a sketch.

[50:10] It just kind of stops, and then there's a moment, and then you hear applause.

[50:14] And that moment is the light from the applause meter hitting the eyes of the audience and going into their brains and decoding it so they know to applaud.

[50:21] Yeah, that's what this movie needed.

[50:23] Also, to be better.

[50:25] This is also a movie where there's a scene where a tank drives into a crowd, and then Frank McRae climbs out of the tank and puts on a catcher's uniform.

[50:34] Why does he have a catcher's uniform?

[50:36] That was a pure Mad Magazine moment.

[50:38] Yeah.

[50:39] But what was it lampooning?

[50:41] Like, the military?

[50:43] It's just fun.

[50:45] It's just having a movie fun, you know?

[50:45] Like, the fact that Slim Pickens was in the movie at all was clear.

[50:48] Like, we're trying to draw a line between this and Doctor Strange's glove and the great...

[50:52] I mean, there's a scene with...

[50:53] It's possible they were trying to draw a line between this and One-Eyed Jack's.

[50:56] Wait, the gambling strip club in Twin Peaks?

[51:01] Yeah, that's right.

[51:02] No, yes, that.

[51:02] No, the Marlon Brando Western.

[51:03] Hey, I'm John Hodgman.

[51:05] Are you a subscriber to Showtime?

[51:07] Because Twin Peaks is coming back.

[51:09] David Lynch, you're obligated to send John Hodgman a check now.

[51:14] And yet all the letters I send him to bring on the air back

[51:17] have failed to get a reply.

[51:19] I've got to watch those episodes on the air

[51:21] that I bought from a Japanese bootleg DVD.

[51:24] That's the only way to get them.

[51:25] They were only ever released in Japan.

[51:26] I assume you have a dub of what I had,

[51:30] which was a VHS copy of the laser disc from Japan of the on-the-air episodes.

[51:34] Where you have, there are certain parts of the show that have captions on them.

[51:38] Hi, I'm John Hodges.

[51:40] We're going to take a little break now to talk about the Max Fund Drive.

[51:43] I can't hear this anymore.

[51:45] We were just talking about a mid-season replacement sitcom that aired three times and never again.

[51:50] John made the guess on this show is I'm going to go get another drink,

[51:53] and Dan's going to talk about the Max Fund Drive.

[51:55] John makes a good point, which is that we should go to the final judgments of this show.

[51:59] I feel like we've barely scratched the surface in 1941, but we should, yeah.

[52:03] There's so much more to say.

[52:04] I'll be back in a moment.

[52:05] Yeah, we'll let Hodgman get a drink.

[52:08] That's the tease.

[52:08] So the question is, is this a good, bad movie?

[52:13] Nope.

[52:13] A bad, bad movie?

[52:14] Yes.

[52:15] Or a movie you kind of liked?

[52:16] Nope.

[52:17] Stuart, what do you have to say about it?

[52:19] Oh, man.

[52:20] So I remember watching this movie as a kid, and I remember being excited because I knew

[52:27] a number of these performers from other things like ghostbusters and i guess animal house i

[52:32] don't know what the fuck i was thinking but i i remember watching this movie and being disappointed

[52:37] and looking back you know what younger me was right he had a lot of reason to be disappointed

[52:43] uh because it's not a very good movie now i want to share an anecdote one of my uh one of

[52:48] one of my regulars at the bar let's call him robert manhattan okay he works in film and he

[52:57] was working on it. I feel like

[52:59] you said it in a way that we're supposed to puzzle

[53:01] out and code what that is.

[53:03] You guys are seeing me wink, right?

[53:04] Yeah, a lot of winking going on.

[53:06] I still don't know what that means.

[53:08] He was working on a film project

[53:10] I don't think it was recently, but with a guy who

[53:13] had been on

[53:14] he was working on a guy

[53:16] Bobby Brooklyn. Is that his real

[53:19] name?

[53:19] Close, Dan, but I don't reveal my sources.

[53:23] Is it Rob Bronx?

[53:25] So, uh, he was working on a, on a film or a TV show with a guy who had worked on 1941

[53:30] and that guy had shared a number of different anecdotes about, uh, like listening to Steven

[53:36] Spielberg argue with people over the phone.

[53:38] And one of the times, uh, he, he clearly remembered Steven Spielberg arguing about a scene.

[53:45] There was a, apparently there was a continuity error at one point.

[53:48] Cause he's like, cause there's a scene where the tank drives through a paint factory and

[53:54] gets paint all over it and he remembered hearing steven spielberg on the phone say uh okay it's

[53:59] covered in paint so i guess next they'll just drive through a turpentine factory solved and

[54:04] in fact that's what happens in the movie and even that is is done in such a way that when it's over

[54:09] you're like wait let me piece together the joke that i just saw hold on a second yeah elliot and

[54:14] i both agreed that that has the potential of being a good joke but it is filmed so clearly

[54:19] But clearly that shows that like that was a thing that they didn't really think about and then afterwards they're like fuck we just got to get this done let's just do a quick thing of them busting out of a turpentine factory as opposed to setting up that joke.

[54:31] Which worked I mean but that's exactly the kind of thinking that worked for him on Raiders like we were talking about where it's like well we can't do that let's just do this.

[54:38] Yeah but why was his timing so great in Raiders and so terrible on this movie?

[54:44] i think he doesn't really get comedy timing but he gets thrill timing so like if a if a joke is

[54:50] set among thrills by the way i'm back it's john hodgman the host of this show that wasn't dan

[54:57] yeah who suddenly the head just was switching his voice the like he gets like he gets thrill

[55:02] timing like he's steven spielberg's one of these filmmakers where when i was a kid i loved him

[55:06] and then i became a cynical guy in his 20s and was like he's too mainstream and now i love him again

[55:10] like for all his short movies like he's a master but he like he's a master of certain things they

[55:16] don't always translate i by the way stew and dan have left now we drove away just you and me

[55:21] i'm gonna give my dad the dance sequence in this film is really good spectacular yeah and you

[55:27] understand like it's the one moment in the movie where you understand who everyone is what they

[55:32] want where they are in the in the world of the film and what their conflict and it's not trying

[55:38] to be funny it's just like i'm gonna entertain you with some dancing it's like everything else

[55:42] in this movie is trying so hard to be funny that it distorts itself because there's like the only

[55:48] way that he understands that people can be funny is eddie deason going i mean let's be fair to

[55:54] eddie deason he's one of the funnier things in the movie yeah eddie deason didn't i apologize

[55:58] that's right the the unfair thing was asking the mayor from amity

[56:02] Jaws to be funny

[56:05] Share the screen with Eddie Deason

[56:07] It's just going to blow him away

[56:08] I'm going to say that

[56:09] I give this a marginal good bad

[56:12] But not in the way that like

[56:13] It's so bad it's funny

[56:16] But it's bad in a

[56:18] Unique way that's interesting to watch

[56:20] It's educational

[56:21] I would say if I may support you

[56:24] It's

[56:25] It's not good bad

[56:28] But it is essential bad

[56:30] Like anyone who

[56:32] who wants to understand comedy and also wants to understand good filmmaking

[56:36] should see this movie to understand how a good filmmaker can make a terrible

[56:41] comedy.

[56:42] And you,

[56:42] and you often can learn a lot more about how things work by seeing them

[56:45] completely not work.

[56:47] I mean,

[56:48] there's a question that's like,

[56:49] I feel like even someone who doesn't know movies can be like,

[56:50] I see why that doesn't work.

[56:51] Steven Spielberg did not want to make a comedy.

[56:54] He had been in the same way.

[56:56] And I don't want to bring this down to politics,

[56:58] but in the same in the same in the same way the republican party has been captured by this

[57:02] by the former soviet union uh steven spielberg in this in this case was a client state

[57:12] to the legacy of animal house like everyone threw money at steven spielberg to make another animal

[57:19] house and they gave every every actor who had been an animal house plus everyone everyone else

[57:25] in comedy and said go and do a thing and he even had john landis and like the fact that john landis

[57:32] in the movie as a disgraced like dusty uh motorcycle sergeant or whatever was insane it

[57:42] was as if to suggest that like yeah i can really i can do this the right way john landis i'm gonna

[57:49] show you how to make a movie yeah but john john landis the this dumb character actor in this movie

[57:53] understood his

[57:56] cultural moment

[57:58] in a way that

[57:59] Steven Spielberg

[58:00] absolutely did not

[58:01] in this movie.

[58:02] There's a scene

[58:03] in this movie

[58:03] with Slim Pickens,

[58:05] Christopher Lee,

[58:07] and Toshiro

[58:08] m'fuckin' Funane,

[58:09] dude.

[58:09] Like, it's so,

[58:10] such a wasted potential

[58:12] that these three actors

[58:13] are in the same scene.

[58:14] Yeah.

[58:14] Like, I would just

[58:15] rather watch

[58:16] them hanging out,

[58:18] you know,

[58:18] like a,

[58:19] like a,

[58:19] like cut stuff

[58:20] from the cutting room floor,

[58:22] you know?

[58:22] Well, also like,

[58:23] Just, like, goofing.

[58:24] The movie Hell in the Pacific shows you that, like, you can do a movie with two great actors,

[58:29] Toshiro Mifune and Lee Marvin, who are not even speaking the same language the entire movie,

[58:34] and it can be really tense and entertaining.

[58:37] These guys, like, it would have been, like, you have Christopher Lee speaking German,

[58:41] Toshiro Mifune speaking Japanese, and Slim Pickens, of course, speaking American,

[58:45] because, you know, what else?

[58:46] He's playing an American.

[58:48] He can't speak plain American.

[58:51] And like they're just – that they have to – that the scene in cinema history when these three amazing actors are together, iconic actors for different reasons, is about a guy who swallowed a compass and has to poop it out so they can find their way to Hollywood like some kind of twisted, scatological Muppet movie.

[59:09] It's like – it's so disappointing.

[59:11] Here's the thing I want to say about 1941.

[59:13] I agree with everything you guys said.

[59:14] I feel like this is one of those movies, like Ishtar, where every few years there's a little bit of a mini wave of like, you know what?

[59:21] It's called a huge bomb.

[59:23] It's remembered as a huge bomb, but it's actually a pretty funny movie.

[59:26] And I want to tell you, don't listen to anyone who ever says that.

[59:29] They are just trolling you, and they are doing it just to seem like they know something you don't know.

[59:35] And you're going to go back and watch this movie, and you're going to be like, wait a minute, that wasn't very funny.

[59:39] No, this movie is not funny.

[59:40] it is horribly flawed deeply disturbing racist misogynist like it that was but it is so much

[59:52] money went into making it yeah like is offensively rich looking you know right there's something

[59:57] about the the use of slang toward japanese people where on one hand you could be like well you know

[1:00:04] it's said in the 40s and of course this right after pearl harbor but it's said in a way where

[1:00:08] it's like the movie makers seem to be okay with it oh yeah everyone in the movie was like it wanted

[1:00:16] to live out their world war ii fantasy in different ways and i guess that was part of it i don't know

[1:00:22] but it's yeah it's real gross and skeevy i mean to shirma funi to be fair maintains his he's the

[1:00:28] only character who maintains his dignity throughout the entire movie hi i think he even says that at

[1:00:33] At one point he says, this is not honorable.

[1:00:35] And you're like, yes, you're right.

[1:00:37] This whole film is not.

[1:00:39] As opposed to the Japanese sailor who just keeps yelling, Hollywood!

[1:00:42] Which is not honorable at all.

[1:00:45] Yeah, in the opening scene when he sees a naked woman's butt, he goes, Hollywood.

[1:00:50] That's what I yell whenever I see a naked woman's butt.

[1:00:55] It's a monstrous disaster.

[1:00:57] That's why you can't go to strip clubs anymore.

[1:00:58] Yeah, they got a picture of him on the wall.

[1:01:02] Everyone should see it as a warning.

[1:01:03] You're not allowed to masturbate to this picture of Dan McCoy.

[1:01:05] Do not show butts to this man.

[1:01:07] Dan, what's happening?

[1:01:10] What's happening is it's the Max Fun Drive 2017.

[1:01:13] The Pledge Drive?

[1:01:15] Great.

[1:01:15] Oh, so my producer, Dan, reminds me the host of this show.

[1:01:18] Oh, you get a producer credit?

[1:01:21] It's the Max Fun Drive.

[1:01:22] Yeah.

[1:01:22] I belong to the Producers Guild.

[1:01:25] Oh, wow.

[1:01:27] 2017.

[1:01:27] So let's talk about some of the benefits of donating to support these shows.

[1:01:31] Aside from the immediate benefit, which is that you keep these shows alive by donating to them.

[1:01:34] And that you're giving money to something that you like.

[1:01:37] Like, as an adult being able to, I'm in a position where I can give money to things that I like and it feels really awesome.

[1:01:45] I don't know.

[1:01:47] No, that's fair.

[1:01:48] Just being able to support the things I like is cool.

[1:01:49] I don't know why you're laughing at that, Elliot.

[1:01:52] That seems like a very reasonable position to be in.

[1:01:54] I thought it was very sweet.

[1:01:55] All right.

[1:01:56] You're uncomfortable with emotion is what I'm hearing.

[1:02:00] Aw, you got me. Aw.

[1:02:02] No, I agree with Stuart.

[1:02:06] It's great to support the things that you like.

[1:02:08] Listen to me.

[1:02:08] Sorry.

[1:02:09] Listen, I listen to podcasts all the time.

[1:02:12] At this point, podcasts are one of my primary sources of entertainment.

[1:02:16] It's like podcast pornography crying into a mirror.

[1:02:19] Yes, yes, and yes.

[1:02:21] Why won't Candyman show up?

[1:02:23] I've said it five times.

[1:02:27] Candyman is like, this is not something I want to get involved with.

[1:02:30] I don't know what your deal is, man.

[1:02:33] Stop crying, dude.

[1:02:34] Candyman checks his cell phone.

[1:02:37] It's ignored.

[1:02:38] It goes back to what he's doing.

[1:02:40] Candyman is like, this is a little bit more than I want to get into.

[1:02:46] No strings attached scares.

[1:02:47] That's kind of me, you know.

[1:02:49] Yeah, but podcasts are my constant companion, honestly.

[1:02:54] Like, I listen to them when I walk around the city.

[1:02:57] I listen to them when I'm doing chores around the house.

[1:03:00] There's things that I pay money for that I don't use.

[1:03:03] Whoa.

[1:03:04] Like Hulu.

[1:03:05] I'm paying fucking $8 a month for Hulu.

[1:03:07] That's $76 a year.

[1:03:09] I don't use that nonsense.

[1:03:10] No, more than that.

[1:03:11] Sorry, that's $96 a year.

[1:03:12] I'm not watching it.

[1:03:13] Why do I pay for it?

[1:03:15] I'll pay for it for you.

[1:03:16] Thank you.

[1:03:17] Successful.

[1:03:18] Oh, man.

[1:03:20] Max Fun Podcast, I listen to all the time.

[1:03:23] And you're a donor.

[1:03:24] I'm a donor.

[1:03:25] Sue's a donor.

[1:03:26] I'm assuming John's a donor.

[1:03:29] I'm a donor.

[1:03:29] I'm a total donor.

[1:03:31] And so, okay, so let's set that aside.

[1:03:33] So you already get the thrill of keeping alive something you love,

[1:03:37] showing your support of it, and saying, hey, you know what?

[1:03:40] I believe in a world where creative creators are compensated for their work

[1:03:45] and not in this steal-em-up nabster world that we've become so accustomed to.

[1:03:50] You're talking about concrete benefits at this point now, right, Ellen?

[1:03:53] Yeah, I'm saying, what's in it for the listeners beyond some sweet ear candy?

[1:03:56] Well, literally sweet ear candy, because we're talking at the $5 a month level.

[1:04:00] What do you get, Elliot?

[1:04:01] Well, at the $5 a month level, you get, Dan?

[1:04:05] You get bonus content.

[1:04:06] At this point, there's hundreds of hours of bonus content from all the MaxFun shows.

[1:04:11] We've got like six or seven hours at least in there already of just the Flophouse.

[1:04:16] We're talking about stuff like we watched Small Wonder, and we talked about it.

[1:04:22] We watched Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip.

[1:04:25] What did you do?

[1:04:26] Did you talk about it?

[1:04:27] And we talked about it.

[1:04:28] And for this one, what's our premiere for this one?

[1:04:31] For 2017, we watched the Christmas episode of the 1980s cartoon series Rubik the Amazing Cube.

[1:04:39] And talked about it.

[1:04:39] And we discussed it.

[1:04:40] If that sounds like something you're interested in, you want to donate at the $5 a month level.

[1:04:45] John, what did you do for your bonus episode this year?

[1:04:49] Oh, we had an earlier episode where there were two twins.

[1:04:55] You mean two twins?

[1:04:57] Twins.

[1:04:58] Two dudes who are twins.

[1:05:01] You mean twins?

[1:05:02] That's enough, Elliot.

[1:05:06] And they had a fight over whether or not they were fraternal twins or identical twins.

[1:05:14] Were their names Tomax and Zaymon?

[1:05:17] One of them wanted to take a test to find out whether they're fraternal or identical.

[1:05:23] And the other one said, let's leave it alone.

[1:05:25] We forced them to take a test.

[1:05:28] Was the test punching them to see if the other one felt it?

[1:05:32] It's not really a twins word.

[1:05:33] No, it's a blood test.

[1:05:36] And we forced them to take a blood test.

[1:05:38] And our bonus episode is we reveal the results of whether or not they are fraternal or identical.

[1:05:45] Does Bailiff Jesse Thorne hoot and holler and run around the stage like he's on a Maury Povich episode?

[1:05:52] He's shutting pie holes all over the place, for sure.

[1:05:56] So that's at the $5 level bonus episodes from all the MaxFun shows.

[1:06:00] Yeah, there's so many episodes of different things.

[1:06:03] What's the special $10 level?

[1:06:05] At the $10 level, $10 a month level, you get a—

[1:06:08] This is $10 a month.

[1:06:09] This is not one-time $10.

[1:06:10] No.

[1:06:11] Don't pull that shit on us.

[1:06:12] You can give a one-time donation if you want, I guess.

[1:06:15] But this is monthly stuff, subscription.

[1:06:17] You get an exclusive enamel pin designed by Megan Lynn Cott.

[1:06:22] There's a design for every Maximum Fun show, and you get to pick your favorite.

[1:06:26] And not only do you get to pick your favorite, but if we reach our 10,000 member, new and upgrading member goal.

[1:06:35] Because even if you're a donor, you can upgrade your membership to a higher level.

[1:06:39] if you if we hit that 10 000 member goal people who have donated at the 10 a month level either

[1:06:46] now or in the past have the option of buying more of these enamel pins because these are pretty sweet

[1:06:52] enamel pin designs so if we reach that goal you don't have to choose just one you can buy other

[1:06:56] ones it's funny that you said but because the flop house pin kind of looks like a butt and it's great

[1:07:01] it's great and there's a ton of great uh there's a ton of great ones on there if you don't get the

[1:07:07] Flophouse one. While I will be

[1:07:09] disappointed, I

[1:07:11] understand. There's a lot of great things.

[1:07:13] That ma-bim-bam zag on them is pretty sweet,

[1:07:15] I gotta say.

[1:07:16] Sound like a traitor to me.

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[1:07:33] A four-color rocket pen. Not Brian Purple

[1:07:35] Stuff Fernandez. No.

[1:07:37] a four-color less popular that's a that's a deep cut joke of a commercial

[1:07:43] that deep a cut i mean it's a deep cut for anyone who wasn't born exactly when we were born i guess

[1:07:50] yeah that's what i'm talking about yeah you get a four-color rocket panda getting their rocket

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[1:08:06] that you get at the $20 per month level.

[1:08:08] That's pretty great.

[1:08:08] Now the $35, or what is it?

[1:08:10] $30 a month?

[1:08:11] $35 a month.

[1:08:13] This is where shit gets hot.

[1:08:15] Because in addition to all the stuff from the other levels,

[1:08:18] you also get a pair of fucking awesome beer steins

[1:08:21] with the Max Von logo on them.

[1:08:22] Double steins.

[1:08:24] Double steins.

[1:08:26] And as the owner and proprietor of a business that sells beer,

[1:08:31] I have an appreciation for good glassware.

[1:08:33] And let me tell you, ooh doggies, these are cool.

[1:08:36] you can put you can quote that ooh doggies says stewart wellington of the flop house

[1:08:42] now stewart briefly said something very important what's that which is and then never again

[1:08:47] sounds like me is that all of these gifts stack if you donate at a higher level you get all of

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[1:09:01] Stacks, if you can find more than one of them.

[1:09:02] He's so rare.

[1:09:09] I've been hanging out on fucking

[1:09:13] Toys R Us for fucking years.

[1:09:15] They short-packed those.

[1:09:16] Oh, shit.

[1:09:17] He's perfectly rectangular, too, so he stacks.

[1:09:21] Imagine the collector from the Marvel Universe is like,

[1:09:23] Ah, the rarest keepsake.

[1:09:24] Robert Stack. Only one was ever

[1:09:27] produced.

[1:09:27] Now, if you're an eccentric millionaire,

[1:09:30] You can donate at the $100 level where you get membership of the Inner Circle where monthly you get – it's a monthly culture club where you get an item selected by one of our MaxFun hosts every month.

[1:09:44] A different host each month, right?

[1:09:46] A different host each month.

[1:09:47] Right.

[1:09:47] And at the $200 a month level, you get free registration for MaxFunCon.

[1:09:54] So that's a pretty good deal because MaxFunCon is a pretty pity and it's a ton of fun.

[1:10:00] but uh that's what you get for the donor there's some great rewards those are some great donors and

[1:10:06] so we are asking you listeners here to help us either wake up after that boring thing yeah

[1:10:13] either to become a first-time pledge donor or if you are already a donor upgrade your donation

[1:10:20] stuff because without you guys hey look none of this would be possible if we if we didn't have

[1:10:26] our listeners we just be shouting into the dark void nothing but horribly cyclopean monstrosities

[1:10:33] impossible to describe and terrifying to behold and look our only listeners instead we've got

[1:10:39] good people like you and maybe a few indescribable monstrosities you make us human i'm gonna say

[1:10:45] something honest it's sometimes unlike usual sometimes sometimes it's hard to do this show

[1:10:51] And I think it gets harder year by year as all of our lives get fuller with different things.

[1:10:57] Our lives and our houses get fuller.

[1:10:59] I'm just traveling a lot, thinking about moving to different parts of the country.

[1:11:03] Yeah, these things happen.

[1:11:04] And it really helps to have money coming in from the podcast to convince us to keep doing the thing.

[1:11:13] Now, that sounds like a threat.

[1:11:14] It doesn't mean to me.

[1:11:16] Why are you holding a gun to my head, Dan?

[1:11:20] The point is that Dan will shoot Stu.

[1:11:23] The point is if you don't donate money, I will paint the walls with Stu's brains.

[1:11:29] Well, I guess I've lived a good life.

[1:11:30] Let me say goodbye to my collection of vintage pornography.

[1:11:34] You'll run Stu's tank through the paint shop.

[1:11:37] A common death expression.

[1:11:41] I'm going to say one last thing about the MaxFunDrive is that early on I had said that the Maximum Fun had set a goal of 10,000 new and upgrading donors.

[1:11:52] And I was like, you know what?

[1:11:54] I'm going to use this excuse to finally set the goal.

[1:11:59] If we hit that number, I'm going to finally get that Flophouse house cat tattoo that I've wanted to get for a long time to commemorate the 10 years I've been doing this stupid thing with you guys.

[1:12:10] Not with you, John.

[1:12:11] I'm glad to be part of the news.

[1:12:16] But that's the thing.

[1:12:17] As of today, we've already rounded the 9,000 listeners.

[1:12:23] So I've already set up an appointment to get my tattoo, just assuming.

[1:12:27] But by the time this drops, which is in a couple of days, I can only hope.

[1:12:32] Which I'm already fucking blown away.

[1:12:34] That's crazy.

[1:12:35] That'll be double what we did last year.

[1:12:37] Ironically, I look forward to...

[1:12:40] giving you that tattoo i mean there doesn't have to be any irony at all you can stare me

[1:12:45] dead in the eyes the whole time you're doing it i've got an electric sharpie and i'm going to

[1:12:49] make sure that your body is never the same i'll be holding your hand with my free hand and your

[1:12:55] non-tattooing hand and biting down on a leather strap that dan gives me from this weird collection

[1:13:00] of leather straps i will say that uh straps strappy dan they call them because we are

[1:13:07] probably gonna hit that 10 000 i imagine there's gonna be some stretch goals if those stretch goals

[1:13:13] uh are released um you say dan's gonna get tapped too come on dan well uh i'd love to say that i

[1:13:21] would reach that same goal but i would like to be buried in sacred ground at some point

[1:13:25] and synagogues are not really okay i'll just carve that part off of your body before the

[1:13:29] cops get to you oh perfect great all right there's some what we have some audio from uh doing the

[1:13:35] superman 4 show in uh chicago that a very very fun day probably semi-illegal to release it because

[1:13:45] you can hear the audio of superman 4 in the background i don't care about killing the

[1:13:50] president we'll probably and also the producers of superman 4 have prevented you from ever

[1:13:55] releasing that ever but uh yeah we don't want to get haunted by the ghosts of golan and globus

[1:14:01] i think if we hit those stretch goals we'll probably just release that audio out into the

[1:14:06] world so you can watch superman 4 and have our commentary that's what i'm saying right now

[1:14:10] so what a promise wait if we hit which stretch which goal i don't know it's a imaginary stretch

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[1:14:39] So now we move on to our

[1:14:44] Are we going to pause it?

[1:14:45] Hold on

[1:14:46] Stuart wants to pause

[1:14:47] So he can go to the restroom

[1:14:48] I think

[1:14:49] So we're going to pause

[1:14:49] The recording for a second

[1:14:50] But for you

[1:14:51] It's just going to seem like

[1:14:52] A second

[1:14:53] A seamless join

[1:14:55] Totally seamless

[1:14:57] oh that was seamless you didn't even know that anything happened there were we ordering food

[1:15:02] from a restaurant because that was seamless um but now it's time to move on to the next

[1:15:07] segment in this podcast which is letters from listeners listeners like you so uh the first

[1:15:16] letter it's a special time for letters it's a max fun pledge drive time for letters special

[1:15:23] Letters that earn us money

[1:15:26] Special letters that

[1:15:27] Taste of honey

[1:15:29] That special taste that only

[1:15:31] Comes during the pledge drive

[1:15:34] Da da da da

[1:15:36] Thanks guys

[1:15:39] Do do do do

[1:15:41] Uh

[1:15:43] This first letter

[1:15:44] Is from Andrew Last Name Withheld

[1:15:47] Who writes

[1:15:48] It is my contention that horror films

[1:15:51] Have the best soundtracks and or scores

[1:15:53] of any genre from the greasy from the greasy this just in from the greasy punk rock of return to the

[1:16:03] living dead to goblins prog rock freakouts to carpenters brilliant synths there's a long and

[1:16:09] noble tradition of totally rad music associated with horror on screen let's not forget bernard

[1:16:14] herman's score for psycho dude yeah so floppers what are your favorite horror film scores or

[1:16:18] soundtracks. Hey, let's not forget Bernard Herman's

[1:16:20] score for Psycho Dude. Psycho Dude is

[1:16:22] my favorite movie.

[1:16:23] Keep on flopping the free world, Andrew

[1:16:26] last name held. Andrew Lesney,

[1:16:28] the composer of the

[1:16:30] Lord of the Rings trilogy.

[1:16:31] No, that's Howard Shore. Andrew Lesney

[1:16:34] I think was the DP. Oh, okay.

[1:16:36] So the letter mentioned... The diaper pail.

[1:16:38] The letter

[1:16:40] already mentioned a couple of things

[1:16:42] that I would have mentioned myself. The Return of the

[1:16:44] Living Dead, punk rock. You could

[1:16:46] have very easily exercised those from the uh from the letter and john carpenter excised or exercised

[1:16:53] like he had a really cool priest come in and cut him out his letter is possessed by some things i

[1:16:59] would like to say john constantine show up and blow him away with a cross gun uh i like very

[1:17:05] much the scores for both poltergeist and gremlins both of which are jerry goldsmith scores jerry

[1:17:12] goldsmith who also did the score for planet of the apes right which is not a horror movie but

[1:17:16] It was a great score.

[1:17:16] It's pretty horrifying.

[1:17:17] I mean, the concept is pretty scary.

[1:17:20] I mean, he tongue kisses an ape at the end.

[1:17:22] Not in my America.

[1:17:24] No, it is in your America.

[1:17:26] Did you not see the end of the movie?

[1:17:28] Statue of Liberty.

[1:17:31] The terrible thing about the apes is they moved the Statue of Liberty to another planet, right?

[1:17:38] No.

[1:17:39] You did it.

[1:17:40] That would be so funny.

[1:17:42] You bastard.

[1:17:43] Somebody in the audience is like, they stole the Statue of Liberty and brought it to their ape planet?

[1:17:48] Why did they set it in half and put it near a peach?

[1:17:51] The sequel better be about when he goes back to Earth and gets everyone to get that statue back.

[1:17:56] They call it Return to the Planet of the Apes.

[1:18:00] Some moron who just doesn't get it.

[1:18:03] He's like, wait, hold on a second.

[1:18:04] Hold on a second.

[1:18:05] If it wasn't enough that there's people and apes and the apes speak English, they've got a Statue of Liberty too?

[1:18:11] This is such, this kind of coincidence cannot be believed.

[1:18:14] What a twist.

[1:18:15] How does France dare to give them a Statue of Liberty, too?

[1:18:19] Double-dealing France.

[1:18:20] They're not even taking care of it.

[1:18:22] Look, it looks all bombed up.

[1:18:23] We have to give one to the Americans, and we also have to give one to the Planet of the Apes.

[1:18:28] We make two, but we never sell them.

[1:18:33] It is a symbol of our friendship with America and our secret friendship with the apes.

[1:18:38] But we only send the apes.

[1:18:41] They don't know

[1:18:44] They don't know it's half

[1:18:45] I think it's a whole statue

[1:18:46] It's the top half

[1:18:48] Yeah not the fucking bottom half

[1:18:51] If the fucking feet were sticking up on the ground

[1:18:53] It's like I guess

[1:18:55] Don't tell mom the babysitter's dead

[1:18:57] I think we can keep these two friendships going

[1:19:01] Without them knowing

[1:19:02] As long as we do not make a date

[1:19:04] On the same night with both planets

[1:19:06] There will be much slamming of doors

[1:19:09] but also

[1:19:12] Dawn of the Dead

[1:19:12] has a really good

[1:19:13] soundtrack too

[1:19:13] the original

[1:19:15] oh yeah

[1:19:15] yeah so

[1:19:17] I really like

[1:19:18] what

[1:19:20] who's that dude

[1:19:21] who does

[1:19:21] Paul

[1:19:22] Paul Anderson

[1:19:23] scores for

[1:19:24] John Bryan

[1:19:25] no the one who does

[1:19:26] Johnny Greenwood

[1:19:27] Johnny Greenwood

[1:19:28] score for

[1:19:29] There Will Be Blood

[1:19:30] that's a great

[1:19:30] horror movie score

[1:19:31] you think that's a

[1:19:32] horror movie

[1:19:33] Nadoy

[1:19:34] that's like saying

[1:19:36] Synecdoche New York

[1:19:37] is a horror movie

[1:19:38] of course it is

[1:19:39] New York is a terrifying city.

[1:19:41] It's horrifying.

[1:19:41] But I would say my favorite, hands down, is still the movie Black Roses with its hilarious hair metal soundtrack.

[1:19:48] Check it out.

[1:19:49] Go look up Black Roses on YouTube.

[1:19:51] It's awesome.

[1:19:52] It's not a horror movie, per se.

[1:19:54] It is a suspense movie.

[1:19:55] But Vertigo has, I think, maybe the most beautiful score in film.

[1:20:00] And I guess it shows you there's something about having to create suspense, maybe, that brings out something special in film scores.

[1:20:08] Is Vertigo the one that goes, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da?

[1:20:13] No, that's The Godfather.

[1:20:14] I think it's Vertigo.

[1:20:16] Do, do.

[1:20:16] Da, da, da.

[1:20:18] Is it the one that goes, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do?

[1:20:20] No, that's the Nightcore thing.

[1:20:21] Yeah, yeah, the Vertigo court.

[1:20:22] Bo, do, don't, don't, don't, don't.

[1:20:25] Well, welcome to Judge Harry's courtroom.

[1:20:27] That's me, Judge Harry, a magician judge.

[1:20:31] Hi, I'm Bill.

[1:20:33] Oh, I'm an alien.

[1:20:34] Or maybe I'm Bill.

[1:20:36] Who cares?

[1:20:37] This joke's getting old.

[1:20:38] i'm judge harry but you can all call me scotty if you're my friends

[1:20:45] is that how you did it madeline judge harry is dressing someone up to look like mel torme

[1:20:52] i don't want to look like mel torme harry doesn't matter what you want it can't matter to you just

[1:20:58] do this for me madeline young people go on netflix and check out night court i guess it's he would

[1:21:04] And Vertigo, I guess.

[1:21:05] It's because he's with Judy at that time.

[1:21:08] Madeline's the one who died.

[1:21:09] Oh, man.

[1:21:10] Judy Barton, Salina, Kansas, just like it says right there.

[1:21:13] And your podcast is more popular now.

[1:21:16] How did I ruin it?

[1:21:17] I don't think that's true.

[1:21:18] Look, just because there are huge swaths of Vertigo that I like to think about.

[1:21:22] And to be honest, John, aren't we all your podcast at this point now?

[1:21:25] Yeah.

[1:21:25] We're all McElroy podcasts.

[1:21:27] John, I'm going to give you one more chance to guess the score to Vertigo.

[1:21:32] And I think you're going to be able to get it.

[1:21:34] Yep, you got it.

[1:21:37] There it is.

[1:21:38] Holiday Road.

[1:21:40] The famous Vertigo song.

[1:21:44] Just like the theme to Godfather.

[1:21:49] Which goes.

[1:21:49] The haunting Godfather theme.

[1:21:55] That was on that Pure Mood CD.

[1:22:00] Yeah, that's right.

[1:22:01] It was called Retrieving.

[1:22:03] Send me on my way.

[1:22:07] And the DJ Dino remix of the X-Files theme.

[1:22:10] Send me on my way by Rusted Root.

[1:22:13] Why is that a thing that I know?

[1:22:16] Because you went to Earlham College like I did.

[1:22:18] Oh, my God.

[1:22:19] I will say that the most horrific movie that I've seen recently and in my life is 1941.

[1:22:29] The Rape and Kidnap movie with the score by John Williams, which is amazing.

[1:22:36] That score is amazing.

[1:22:37] It's a good score.

[1:22:38] It's a great score.

[1:22:39] And that's the whole thing.

[1:22:43] That's the whole score.

[1:22:44] And he stopped writing after that.

[1:22:46] That movie is, if you have not heard what I had to say about it before, let me say now.

[1:22:55] That is a terrifying movie.

[1:22:57] And the score is great.

[1:22:59] so there the next question or letter is or letter whatever you want to call it hey man i mean it

[1:23:07] starts off with my question is but uh this is from kyle last name withheld who writes kyle

[1:23:13] Bob Katarn, star of the Dark Force series.

[1:23:15] Ah!

[1:23:15] The last call I took to anybody.

[1:23:24] I think that's the ultimate Star Wars character name

[1:23:31] no one's going to say anymore.

[1:23:33] Penultimate being, of course, Dash Rendar of Shadows of the Empire.

[1:23:36] The final Star Wars name is Seb Gorka.

[1:23:38] Advisor to the President.

[1:23:43] Yeah, yeah, he's the one who's always bothering Trump

[1:23:45] about how many portions he gets.

[1:23:47] I imagine...

[1:23:50] Three-quarter portions.

[1:23:51] Now I'm just imagining...

[1:23:55] I'm sorry, Simon Pegg, my friend.

[1:23:57] I'm imagining Trump with salacious crumbs sitting on his desk

[1:24:02] and Trump's just like, it's going to be huge, sad, forget about it.

[1:24:05] And salacious crumbs is like...

[1:24:07] Just pecking robots' eyes out every now and then.

[1:24:09] So Kyle says, my question is,

[1:24:13] Have you ever resented someone for a movie they made you watch?

[1:24:16] I love my mom, but I don't know whether I'll ever forgive her

[1:24:19] for plopping me in front of the 1967 Disney horror show

[1:24:23] that is the Gnome-mobile as a child.

[1:24:25] Not familiar with it.

[1:24:26] Or for singing the song so joyfully whenever I complain about it.

[1:24:30] Kyle Lastname with hell.

[1:24:31] I feel like I've been on the opposite end of that one.

[1:24:33] I'm the guy who shows people movies and they're like,

[1:24:35] what the hell?

[1:24:36] Why did we just watch that?

[1:24:37] Let me see.

[1:24:38] Do I know anybody in recent memory that made me watch a really shitty movie?

[1:24:43] I think his name's John Hodgman.

[1:24:45] What?

[1:24:47] How is that on me?

[1:24:49] What movie did I make you watch?

[1:24:51] 1941.

[1:24:51] This is your podcast.

[1:24:55] Oh, yeah, that's true.

[1:24:56] Then Dan, for making me do this podcast in the first place.

[1:25:00] Maybe my parents for creating me.

[1:25:03] Maybe their parents for creating them.

[1:25:06] I want to see where this is going.

[1:25:08] I can't do that much math right now.

[1:25:11] so times when you've been mad at somebody for making you watch a movie yeah yeah i don't know

[1:25:19] i've never been mad for watching i feel like there's no movie even if i'm mad at a movie i'm

[1:25:23] i don't know that i've ever been mad about having to maybe like national lampoon's christmas

[1:25:28] vacation when i was a kid which as i've talked about before the podcast was the first time i

[1:25:32] saw a movie in the theaters and was like i don't like this this is bad to me like is it possible

[1:25:37] to not like a movie yeah i guess so you went to the bathroom of the movie theater and tried to

[1:25:42] wash yourself i was like the sting of it off the scenery is trapped in the attic looking at the old

[1:25:47] home movies it won't come off i'm definitely i've definitely what i've definitely read a book on

[1:25:54] somebody's recommendation and been like about a couple of pages and been like fuck this but i feel

[1:25:59] like i have to finish it so i can so i can tell somebody i read it and if they quiz me i'll know

[1:26:04] what to say i've never had the experience i'm a man of my own taste i don't take anyone's

[1:26:11] recommendation wow all right wow let's watch 1941 again so now i think john's just mad at me for

[1:26:18] calling him out for making us watch 1941 that's a terrible movie but i i think everyone should

[1:26:23] see it i mean twice i mean i blame dan most of the time for picking the movies we watch based

[1:26:28] on runtime so one and a half time i get more resentful when dan when we're like oh this one

[1:26:33] sounds crazy i want to watch that and dan's like oh i watched it already i thought i might like it

[1:26:37] it wasn't that good and it's like okay well i guess i'm never gonna see that movie again

[1:26:42] you know i'm supposed to just sit at home alone watching nothing because of you guys

[1:26:48] here's what you should do watch good movies i don't want to do that by the way you said you

[1:26:53] have hulu don't they have the whole fucking criterion collection not anymore it's on filmstruck

[1:26:57] now yeah you'll have to go buy the criterion movies all right i don't know why i'm so angry

[1:27:03] at me all of a sudden dan buy the criterion movies the rock and armageddon parts of the

[1:27:09] criterion collection by the way my friends i have seen two movies with you and i wish to see many

[1:27:15] more but they both have starred dan ackroyd i know starring in it is a very charitable term

[1:27:22] At least in 1940

[1:27:24] I mean I guess

[1:27:25] They say starring

[1:27:26] But he doesn't

[1:27:27] He's not the lead

[1:27:28] In this movie

[1:27:28] He's got a pretty

[1:27:29] He's got a relatively

[1:27:29] Unimportant part

[1:27:31] As opposed to

[1:27:31] Nothing but trouble

[1:27:33] In which case

[1:27:33] He is the alpha and omega

[1:27:34] Of that film

[1:27:35] Like it all springs

[1:27:36] From his diseased brain

[1:27:37] That's a whole separate podcast

[1:27:38] I'm sorry that I brought that up

[1:27:39] But what happened

[1:27:40] It's okay

[1:27:41] I feel like we need to do

[1:27:42] Like a

[1:27:43] A podcast about Dan Aykroyd

[1:27:46] That's kind of like

[1:27:47] That privacy invasion podcast

[1:27:49] About Richard Simmons

[1:27:50] Yeah

[1:27:50] Where it's just like

[1:27:51] Dan Aykroyd

[1:27:51] What happened to him?

[1:27:52] What happened?

[1:27:53] What happened, Dan Aykroyd?

[1:27:54] When did you go over to fully endorsing skull-shaped vodka bottles?

[1:27:58] Yeah, we'll be interviewing crystal head vodka sales reps.

[1:28:03] No, when did he turn from being like the bad boy artist of comedy to being like whatever he is now, like whatever he does?

[1:28:11] Well, every now and then he does like a good acting role in something, you know?

[1:28:14] Yeah.

[1:28:15] Next question.

[1:28:16] Oh, okay.

[1:28:17] Sorry, Elliot.

[1:28:18] This is from Tim.

[1:28:19] This is from Tim, last name withheld.

[1:28:21] Who writes, I hold to this...

[1:28:24] Tim Matheson.

[1:28:24] Oh, star of 1941.

[1:28:25] That's right.

[1:28:26] I'm with this woman, and she only gets aroused when she's in a plane.

[1:28:29] Should I just ignore it and find a woman that I'm better suited to being with?

[1:28:33] Or should I risk both our lives by flying us into the air?

[1:28:37] Not merely our lives, but also the security of the United States.

[1:28:39] And or possibly risk getting kicked off JetBlue Airlines for life.

[1:28:43] That's true.

[1:28:47] The thrill must have gone when just regular mainstream commercial aviation came in.

[1:28:51] uh tim writes i hold to this day that night that 2000 sorry i hold to this day that 2013's the

[1:28:59] wolverine is the single worst superhero movie ever worse than x-men origins wolverine uh well

[1:29:04] hold on might be it every time a movie is called the worst superhero movie i can think of at least

[1:29:09] one thing it did that was interesting or original or fun green lantern catwoman the spirit bvs you

[1:29:15] name it even spawn but the wolverine's only redeeming quality that anyone ever talks about

[1:29:21] is quote it's better than x-men origins wolverine and that gives it a pass to 69 of the rotten

[1:29:28] tomatoes critics what are some movies that you think 69 in there just to give me a laugh

[1:29:33] what are some movies that you think critics or the public gave a pass to slash praise for some

[1:29:41] sort of bullshit reason when the movie itself is garbage tim last name was held oh uh hands up

[1:29:46] hands up i've got a hand okay yes john hodgman of the hodgman gazette wow this is conventional

[1:29:52] wisdom at this point and i'm sorry to say it but the la la land not since the english patient has

[1:29:58] a movie gone from everybody loves it to everybody hates it so i don't know i would totally well

[1:30:04] but what do you think is the bullshit reason what do you think this is the bullshit reason

[1:30:10] that it got a pass in this case

[1:30:11] oh

[1:30:13] I know people

[1:30:16] who live in Los Angeles who loved La La Land

[1:30:18] because it represented their

[1:30:20] experience

[1:30:20] and yet it was a dumb dumb movie

[1:30:23] and I love that filmmaker

[1:30:25] Whiplash was terrific

[1:30:27] incredible film

[1:30:28] that was a rare occasion where I

[1:30:34] turned

[1:30:34] on a movie thinking like

[1:30:37] I'm going to like this movie

[1:30:40] and I just got more and more depressed as I went on,

[1:30:44] and primarily because the people in it can't sing or dance.

[1:30:51] Yeah, no, if you want to see him use it,

[1:30:53] Elliot's rubbing John's shoulders right now.

[1:30:56] It's okay.

[1:30:56] It's not your fault.

[1:30:59] It's their fault.

[1:31:00] I feel like that happens a lot, though.

[1:31:02] There's usually one or two Oscar frontrunners

[1:31:05] who are churched up quite a bit during the awards,

[1:31:09] During the like festival season and then have a fall from grace either before or like a year or two after the awards were like like crash, for instance, where everyone's like, fuck that movie.

[1:31:20] But it's fucking one best picture, dude.

[1:31:22] What's going on?

[1:31:23] Yeah, with with La La Land, it feels like it's it's a movie that's meant, I think, to be like a crowd pleasing, fun movie in a lot of ways.

[1:31:31] But it turned out to be very divisive for a number of reasons.

[1:31:34] and the people who saw it first i guess were the people who really really worked for and as it

[1:31:40] moved out throughout the country it hit the wave of people who didn't like i that was one where i

[1:31:45] had a similar experience where like we got our screeners for voting for the writer's guild awards

[1:31:49] and that was that was the one i belong to the same fucking guild but for some reason i'm still

[1:31:54] like that was this guy that was well i'm saying maybe i didn't like it because i didn't see it

[1:31:57] in the theater i don't know but i was why i was like i'm gonna i can't wait to watch this movie

[1:32:02] i really loved whiplash it's a it's all about it's like a an homage to old musicals i love old

[1:32:08] musicals right and from almost moment one i was like there's something off about this movie and

[1:32:13] halfway through i had this crisis where i was like like is there something like are my am i

[1:32:18] calibrated wrong right now like am i have i lost sight of something because this is not working

[1:32:22] for me at all but it's something like this should be working for me and everyone all the things i

[1:32:27] read about it beforehand said it worked for them and yeah there's definitely people that i whose

[1:32:32] opinions i respect who really liked it at least when they first saw it and i like it just didn't

[1:32:37] work for me and i had to like figure out okay why didn't this movie work for me because i don't want

[1:32:42] to just be like oh this sucked i don't want to be like a friend of mine whose name i won't mention

[1:32:46] who is the day after he saw the dark knight sat down in front of me so that i couldn't couldn't

[1:32:53] move away and said okay tell me why i should like the dark knight tell me why that was a good movie

[1:32:59] because i thought it was stupid and i was like that's not my job is your friend christian bale

[1:33:02] and well i had walked in his light and he was like mcg mcg have this man tell me why why the

[1:33:09] dark knight was good but uh the but it was la la land it was like yeah i like it left me in this

[1:33:14] Just making him feel good about the movie he was in.

[1:33:17] Whiplash was a movie that I,

[1:33:22] even though there is so much profound swearing,

[1:33:27] I would show it to my kids in a second.

[1:33:29] Because you're like,

[1:33:31] that's the kind of discipline I'm talking about with you two

[1:33:33] when it comes to your music.

[1:33:34] I think that it captures both the wonderful aspects of creativity

[1:33:40] and the awful aspects of creativity.

[1:33:43] And so, like, I went into La La Land with full faith and confidence that this guy understood it.

[1:33:49] You're like, Dominic Chienese knows how to make a movie, whatever his name is.

[1:33:53] Dominic Chiesel.

[1:33:53] Chiesel, that's what it is.

[1:33:55] Chienese.

[1:33:56] Is he from The Sopranos?

[1:33:57] Yeah.

[1:33:57] But he, like, didn't quite pull it off.

[1:34:02] I just thought it was a dumb, dumb film, especially in context of Moonlight, which was beautiful.

[1:34:08] Damien Chiesel.

[1:34:09] Damien Chiesel, that's what it is.

[1:34:11] Because he's the omen kid.

[1:34:12] Yeah.

[1:34:13] We know about movies, you guys.

[1:34:16] That's the name of our podcast, We Know About Movies.

[1:34:19] I was just led astray by Elliot's five steps off name that he came up with.

[1:34:25] La La Land is one of the best picture nominees I didn't see this year.

[1:34:29] Which one was?

[1:34:30] La La Land, that and like Hacksaw Ridge are movies that I didn't see.

[1:34:34] I didn't see a bunch of them.

[1:34:35] But I actually saw more than I usually do.

[1:34:39] And I thought, in general, you know, I'm going to go out on a limb and say movies that are nominated for Oscars are pretty good.

[1:34:45] Let's back off to the original question, though.

[1:34:48] Yeah, what was it? Because I forgot it.

[1:34:49] Which is, what are some movies that you think critics or the public gave a pass to for some sort of bullshit reason?

[1:34:55] I just want to say to Damien Chazelle, I want to be in your films.

[1:35:01] Don't take your colleague La La Land dumb-dumb to mean you don't want to work with him.

[1:35:07] Because what I have is, and this is a movie that I liked.

[1:35:12] It's not like I feel like this was a shitty movie.

[1:35:14] And it's called Cheeky.

[1:35:15] It's a movie that I liked.

[1:35:17] Look, the butt's great.

[1:35:18] It's called Hard Bodies.

[1:35:19] It's called California Hot Tub Club or whatever it's called.

[1:35:23] California Hot Wax.

[1:35:26] LA Jacuzzi Society.

[1:35:27] No, the Lego movie.

[1:35:30] The Lego movie was a movie that I liked.

[1:35:33] i thought it was a solid comedy but i thought it was over praised for the simple reason that

[1:35:40] everyone thought like the lego movie is going to be shitty because it's a movie about legos like

[1:35:45] people were like oh this is going to be a shitty movie because it's a branded content movie

[1:35:50] and so when it was not shitty i feel like then it was raised to the heavens as like

[1:35:57] the best comedy it's the greatest it's the funniest movie ever made yeah and i would

[1:36:01] argue that that is a movie that i don't know it's not it's a it's not a bad movie and i liked a lot

[1:36:07] of it but there were times when i wanted to dial back quite a bit it was like they were making a

[1:36:13] while i was watching that movie i was like this is a movie for kids because it's so frenetic and

[1:36:20] it's so so many like explosions and meta jokes and things like that it's the 1941 of lego movies

[1:36:24] it just moves from set piece to set piece you don't even know what's happening yeah kind of

[1:36:29] And then there's a bunch of jokes where it's like, why are you undercutting the premise of your movie that I was enjoying?

[1:36:34] Like, I don't get why you're doing this, but I think you're right that it was a little overpraised.

[1:36:38] Has anyone here seen the Lego Batman movie?

[1:36:42] No, I haven't.

[1:36:43] No, right.

[1:36:45] Let's do that next year.

[1:36:46] Oh, wow.

[1:36:48] The gauntlet's thrown down.

[1:36:50] I'm just trying to say that I love the Lego movie.

[1:36:52] If you want to put me in your next movie, Miller and Lord, I'm down.

[1:36:56] I would say.

[1:36:58] Look, look, I think let's make one thing clear.

[1:37:00] I think let's make it clear.

[1:37:00] We like that movie.

[1:37:01] And also, even if we didn't like a movie someone made, none of us would be against being in a movie.

[1:37:07] I think with the exception of maybe Uwe Boll.

[1:37:10] And even with that, I'll do it, probably.

[1:37:13] There is no filmmaker I despise the work of enough that if they said, do you want to be in a movie?

[1:37:19] I would be like, no way.

[1:37:20] I'm above that.

[1:37:21] I am not above that.

[1:37:22] I think none of us are.

[1:37:23] What about Melvin Gibson?

[1:37:25] Melvin Gibson, the star of The Road Warrior.

[1:37:28] Popular Holocaust denier.

[1:37:30] Would you be in Hacksaw Ridge, too?

[1:37:31] What about Lenny Riefenstahl?

[1:37:33] Well, she's dead, so I don't have to worry about that.

[1:37:35] But yeah, I think someone who is actively a Nazi is maybe where the rubber hits the road.

[1:37:40] Or a zombie.

[1:37:41] Or a zombie.

[1:37:42] A Nazi zombie.

[1:37:43] I don't want to put you on the spot, but would you be in a Mel Gibson movie?

[1:37:48] Hmm.

[1:37:50] I mean, he doesn't like to work with Jewish people, so I'm kind of off the...

[1:37:53] My wife wouldn't let me be in a Mel Gibson movie.

[1:37:57] She won't let me watch his fucking movies.

[1:38:00] I honestly don't know what I would do in that situation,

[1:38:01] which will never happen.

[1:38:02] So I guess call his bluff, Mel Gibson.

[1:38:05] Cast me in your next movie.

[1:38:06] None of it will ever happen.

[1:38:08] That's why I'm asking you.

[1:38:09] Yeah, yeah.

[1:38:09] You're the Han Solo to his greed.

[1:38:10] There's a part of me that I want to say would be like, no.

[1:38:14] He's someone who has said things I can't abide by.

[1:38:17] Right.

[1:38:17] But I have, as a viewer, tacitly endorsed so many artists

[1:38:22] who have done terrible things

[1:38:23] like if I can watch a Roman Polanski

[1:38:26] movie then I can't necessarily

[1:38:28] look down on watching

[1:38:29] a Mel Gibson movie who has

[1:38:31] as far as I know not raped any children

[1:38:33] you know he's just said terrible things

[1:38:35] you know and been a mean guy to people

[1:38:37] you know

[1:38:38] the one time I felt bad for Mel Gibson was

[1:38:41] when they announced he was going to do a cameo in The Hangover 2

[1:38:44] and the cast was like

[1:38:46] no way we will not work with Mel Gibson

[1:38:48] and he was like

[1:38:49] I didn't rape anybody

[1:38:50] Mike Tyson was in your last movie

[1:38:53] he went to jail for rape

[1:38:54] I never did that

[1:38:56] it was like fair point Mel Gibson

[1:38:59] this is a weird place for them to draw the line

[1:39:01] so ladies and gentlemen I'm announcing

[1:39:03] Elliot Kaelin

[1:39:04] Elliot Kaelin and Mike Tyson

[1:39:06] in the remake of

[1:39:09] Mel Gibson's Rosemary's Baby

[1:39:11] wait interesting

[1:39:12] now I'm going to be in Hacksaw Ridge back to

[1:39:15] back to the hack in which

[1:39:17] somebody has to go Andrew Garfield's got to go back

[1:39:19] to save the prisoners I guess

[1:39:20] but hackback Elliot and Mike Tyson and Rosemary's baby too uh I would say to get back to the

[1:39:28] question I wouldn't work with because I'd be afraid he would hit me but he's got that cute

[1:39:32] little voice um I would say to get back to the question though I mean I don't know if it's overly

[1:39:38] or anything but when it first came out the horror movie Sinister I think got a little more praise

[1:39:44] than I would agree with um the fact that it just didn't fall apart completely and the fact that

[1:39:49] that atmosphere but it it felt just too forced for me i feel like i've seen that film as as a as

[1:39:56] a horror movie buff i think it might just come from the fact that i i like horror movies but

[1:40:01] sometimes if you're really into something a what i would consider to be like almost like an entry

[1:40:07] level version of that thing right comes off as like not what you're into and so for someone who

[1:40:13] has is not familiar with that stuff at all and this is maybe the first horror movie they've seen

[1:40:17] a long time or the first comedy or historical thing yeah like a real ethan hawke fan that just

[1:40:22] wants to see ethan you know do his thing for a couple of minutes they're it reminds me a lot

[1:40:27] of people who read a perfectly fine comic book and are like this is amazing it's changing the

[1:40:32] way they're doing comics and it's like i can't really look at it that way because i read them

[1:40:36] regularly so these don't things don't seem new to me but i like that you're getting that kind of

[1:40:41] saga is kind of pretentious i mean so you're snobs is what you're all right too deep yeah that's what

[1:40:46] i'm saying deep in the weeds i think we would be snobs if we were saying nobody should enjoy this

[1:40:51] because there's a better thing out there and i'm not saying that right i'm saying i can't help

[1:40:55] like i can't go into something and be like i'm gonna forget that i'm steeped in this world

[1:40:59] and i'm gonna enter it as a newbie so that i enjoy the same way other people do just a couple

[1:41:03] of snobs who hate saga but love sinister wait no i didn't i said i don't like one one last

[1:41:10] Here, wait, let me go out on a limb.

[1:41:12] Here's a movie that's gotten a pass for too long.

[1:41:14] It's called Some Like It Hot.

[1:41:15] Fuck it.

[1:41:16] Let's go to the next one.

[1:41:17] Not a movie I like.

[1:41:19] Never have.

[1:41:20] Billy Wilder, Love Your Other Work.

[1:41:22] Don't like that one.

[1:41:24] Yeah, world star.

[1:41:26] Anyway.

[1:41:27] Hate me.

[1:41:27] Now I'm just a heel in a wrestling match.

[1:41:29] Hate me.

[1:41:30] Oh, I don't like Some Like It Hot.

[1:41:31] Bring it on.

[1:41:33] In my country, we crush America, and we hate Some Like It Hot.

[1:41:39] By the way, no offense, I have a family.

[1:41:40] Elliot's doing the ravishing Rick Rude pelvic thrust right now.

[1:41:43] No offense, I have a family.

[1:41:45] I'd like to go home at some point.

[1:41:46] That's not how this podcast works.

[1:41:47] One last email.

[1:41:48] It's from Matt, last name with L, who writes,

[1:41:51] Where am I in the world?

[1:41:53] I don't know.

[1:41:54] It's me, Matt Lauer.

[1:41:55] Matt writes,

[1:41:57] I don't know why, but

[1:41:59] Should I shave my eyebrows yet?

[1:42:01] I don't know why, but I've been keeping track of the various claims

[1:42:04] the three of you made about each other's penises.

[1:42:07] Maybe I'm depressed.

[1:42:08] I'm definitely unemployed.

[1:42:09] Some for Dan.

[1:42:11] A not large, disinterested penis.

[1:42:14] Some for Stuart.

[1:42:15] A big dick and irradiated testicles.

[1:42:18] Some for Elliot.

[1:42:20] A functional, cat-warming penis.

[1:42:22] I'm going to go drink now.

[1:42:23] Matt, last time I was in the field.

[1:42:24] What was his last name?

[1:42:26] Last time I was in the field?

[1:42:27] Yeah, that's right.

[1:42:28] You saved that special letter.

[1:42:31] I don't know about not large.

[1:42:32] I think I just said average.

[1:42:34] Well, average would be not large.

[1:42:36] Average is the word.

[1:42:37] I didn't hear a question in there at all, and I'm not part of this conversation.

[1:42:41] Okay, so that was interesting.

[1:42:43] So let me just say that I have no genitals whatsoever.

[1:42:48] And yet you said you were a sexual being earlier.

[1:42:51] Oh, I was lying.

[1:42:52] Now, is this the time we unveil this new segment that Dan and Stuart and I have been talking about for a while called Dick Busters,

[1:42:58] in which we bust myths about our dicks?

[1:43:00] Because it seems like there's some misinformation about there.

[1:43:03] So we're going to run some tests to see if common urban legends about our penises are accurate.

[1:43:07] Should I go get that piece of foam core that I wrote myth on

[1:43:10] that we're going to ram our dicks against and break in half?

[1:43:13] For the opening number, yeah.

[1:43:15] Opening number, because each myth...

[1:43:18] The opening number from Sunday in the Park with George.

[1:43:23] Bit by bit, putting it together.

[1:43:26] Ounce by ounce, dick by dick.

[1:43:31] You don't know dick about our dicks,

[1:43:35] and we're here to change that, dick busters.

[1:43:37] that kind of stuff you know yeah uh what do we do now dan now is the last segment of the podcast

[1:43:43] other than i think they'll probably say something else about the max fun drive but

[1:43:47] let's call it the last segment of the podcast survivors to the end of this episode there are

[1:43:52] where we recommend movies that we actually liked

[1:43:56] something that you should watch instead of 1941 cool

[1:44:02] oh do I have a

[1:44:05] recommendation yeah I'll totally recommend

[1:44:07] is that is that the

[1:44:09] orchestra under the stage

[1:44:11] trying to play me off well I

[1:44:13] guess I want to thank my mom

[1:44:15] for squirting Stuart

[1:44:17] out

[1:44:18] Stuart we're on there's a seven second delay it's okay

[1:44:21] you can say that

[1:44:22] so I'm going to recommend a movie that

[1:44:26] I'm a little

[1:44:27] ashamed that I hadn't got to until

[1:44:29] very recently

[1:44:30] I watch it just the other day

[1:44:33] It's called All Dogs Go to Heaven 2

[1:44:35] Frankly I spoke to my priest

[1:44:39] and apologized

[1:44:40] So I'm going to recommend a movie called

[1:44:45] You went to a priest for spiritual

[1:44:47] guidance, he goes

[1:44:48] I've got a movie I think you'll find

[1:44:50] Oh I've got a movie I would like to see

[1:44:53] And he hands you a VHS tape of All Dogs Go to Heaven

[1:44:56] I'm like I don't know how to play this father

[1:44:57] He's like stick it in your iPod

[1:45:00] Like, I guess I'll try that

[1:45:02] Oh, I could help you with that

[1:45:04] Is this canon now?

[1:45:05] Oh, they elected a five-year-old pope

[1:45:08] And this is what he's interested in these days

[1:45:10] He's a young pope

[1:45:11] So, the movie I'm going to recommend tonight

[1:45:16] Is a movie from 2011 called Manborg

[1:45:19] It's a trim like 65 minutes long

[1:45:22] You have no reason not to watch it

[1:45:24] I'm an idiot for not having seen it sooner

[1:45:27] It's fucking great

[1:45:29] go see it i think after one of our live shows actually i met the guys who made it uh so if

[1:45:36] that's true tell me uh that happened because your movie is fucking awesome you're worried that maybe

[1:45:45] the weapon x program planted this false memory of you meeting the manborg creators quite possibly

[1:45:50] manborg is fucking great it is about a soldier in the war of humans against the armies of hell

[1:45:57] that were brought to Earth by Dr. Scorpius,

[1:46:00] and a young soldier gets killed while fighting Count Draculon

[1:46:07] and is turned into the ultimate weapon of war, Manborg.

[1:46:11] And he has to lead the resistance in the fight against Count Draculon.

[1:46:16] I totally recommend this movie.

[1:46:18] It's great.

[1:46:19] If you saw, I would say the closest movie I could approximate it to

[1:46:23] Is Kung Fury

[1:46:25] The short

[1:46:27] From a year or two ago

[1:46:28] Which feels like it

[1:46:30] Lifted a lot of stuff

[1:46:32] From Manborg

[1:46:34] But I totally recommend it

[1:46:37] Check it out

[1:46:38] They have a new movie coming out

[1:46:40] Where the trailer looks amazing

[1:46:42] It's called

[1:46:43] It's called Divine

[1:46:47] Check it out

[1:46:49] Manborg

[1:46:50] hello it's me dan sorry we played you off uh so i want to recommend a movie that's also

[1:47:00] uh written by robert zemeckis and bob yale uh who wrote 1941 is it back to the fucking future

[1:47:07] no no 1941 is it young sherlock holmes no i don't think they wrote that one uh i old

[1:47:14] Sherlock Holmes?

[1:47:15] Why didn't they just

[1:47:18] call it Sherlock Holmes?

[1:47:19] There's a movie that they made

[1:47:22] just prior to 1941

[1:47:24] called I Want to Hold Your Hand

[1:47:26] that was actually directed by Robert Zemeckis

[1:47:28] and not Steven Spielberg.

[1:47:29] Starring Bobby Togillo.

[1:47:32] And is there a certain Eddie in it?

[1:47:34] It starred Eddie Deason was in it.

[1:47:36] Nancy Allen was in it.

[1:47:37] Stars of 1941.

[1:47:39] Probably.

[1:47:41] It's about teens

[1:47:44] who are caught up in the throes of Beatlemania

[1:47:47] and they don't have tickets to see

[1:47:49] the Ed Sullivan show

[1:47:53] when the Beatles are coming to town

[1:47:55] but they want to see them

[1:47:58] and they go through all sorts of madcap adventures

[1:48:01] to see the Beatles

[1:48:02] and I don't remember it super well

[1:48:04] because it's been a while since I've seen it

[1:48:06] but it's a Bob Gill and Robert Zemeckis madcap comedy

[1:48:08] that I remember enjoying a lot

[1:48:10] in contrast

[1:48:13] To 1941

[1:48:15] So I want to hold your hand

[1:48:17] As my recommendation

[1:48:18] I'm done

[1:48:20] Well done

[1:48:25] John are you recommending anything?

[1:48:27] No thank you

[1:48:27] I haven't seen anything recently that I really liked

[1:48:31] Particularly well

[1:48:32] That's a great way to avoid getting played off

[1:48:35] So the only way to

[1:48:37] I'm respectful of the audience's time

[1:48:40] The only way to win is not to play

[1:48:42] it's what war games taught us is that what it says on the box of crossfire

[1:48:45] says don't buy this so i'm gonna recommend instead one of my favorite movies i may have

[1:48:51] recommended it before it's comedy from 1944 that is also about a country at war on the home front

[1:48:57] and that's the miracle of morgan's creek preston sergis wrote and directed it and it stars eddie

[1:49:02] brackett and betty hutton and it's the story of a woman who wants to send the boys off with one

[1:49:08] last shebang and

[1:49:09] finds herself married to a man

[1:49:11] she doesn't remember the name of and

[1:49:13] pregnant and she has to figure out how to

[1:49:15] make this situation okay with the help

[1:49:18] of a friend named Bracken. And it is

[1:49:20] hilarious.

[1:49:20] So if you want to see a

[1:49:26] World War II-related comedy,

[1:49:27] Miracle of Morgans Creek.

[1:49:29] Miracle of Morgans Creek.

[1:49:30] Record time, guys.

[1:49:38] I got the title slightly wrong

[1:49:43] of one of my favorite movies

[1:49:43] because he threw me off with the music.

[1:49:45] Well, John was like staring you dead

[1:49:49] in the eyes the whole time,

[1:49:50] like what he's going to do

[1:49:51] when he does my tattoo.

[1:49:52] So we should sign off soon,

[1:49:57] but we just want to reiterate

[1:49:59] that the MaxFunDrive is going on right now.

[1:50:02] Yes.

[1:50:02] You should go to MaximumFun.com

[1:50:05] or .org rather, slash donate.

[1:50:07] I'm so I'm so worried that John's going to play me off that I'm maximum fund.org slash forward slash donate.

[1:50:15] Hey, guys, I just want to throw I just want to point out that what 10 minutes ago in real time.

[1:50:23] So this is Thursday night.

[1:50:25] Jesse announced that we actually broke 10,000.

[1:50:28] Yeah, we did it, which is fucking crazy, dude.

[1:50:32] That's amazing.

[1:50:33] Thanks, everybody.

[1:50:34] It's crazy.

[1:50:35] It's amazing.

[1:50:36] Thank you, listeners.

[1:50:37] I'm crying.

[1:50:38] I'm crying right now.

[1:50:41] Crazy, amazing, crying, amazing, crazing.

[1:50:43] Stuart, do you want to say something

[1:50:45] about the Max Von Meetup night?

[1:50:47] Yeah, so next Tuesday,

[1:50:49] that's the 28th,

[1:50:51] that's the official Max Von Meetup day.

[1:50:53] If you're listening to this after March 28th,

[1:50:55] you missed it.

[1:50:55] 2017.

[1:50:58] Yeah, it was 2017.

[1:50:59] If it's the far future and civilization has fallen

[1:51:03] and you just found this recording,

[1:51:04] don't go to Hinterlands for the Max Von Meetup

[1:51:06] because you missed it it's not next tuesday instead focus on things like food uh the precious

[1:51:12] juice find a mate get the get this civilization back up and running maybe get some seeds

[1:51:17] you know just go to the store get some seeds some advice seeds

[1:51:23] maybe you haven't thought of this one so uh the 28th here's a hot tip seeds

[1:51:30] go over to MaximumFun.org

[1:51:33] and check out

[1:51:34] there's a list of

[1:51:36] different MaxFun meetups in different areas

[1:51:39] see if there's one in your area

[1:51:40] in Brooklyn, New York

[1:51:42] I'm going to be hosting one over at Hinterlands

[1:51:45] hey that's your bar

[1:51:46] in deep Brooklyn, that's the bar that I own

[1:51:49] so I have to be there contractually

[1:51:51] Dan's going to be there

[1:51:54] I'm working on Elliot

[1:51:55] and I'm working on Hodgman over there

[1:51:58] I'm promising nothing

[1:51:58] I'm going to be there all night long crying if Elliot doesn't show up.

[1:52:03] So if you want to see Stuart cry, there's a very good chance.

[1:52:06] And there's going to be some other really great – there's going to be –

[1:52:09] Mark Gagliardi has told me he's coming and a few others.

[1:52:11] It should be a great time.

[1:52:14] They've been great in the past.

[1:52:16] I was just shoveling snow and puke-covered snow out of the backyard,

[1:52:21] so there's going to be plenty of space for y'all.

[1:52:24] The glamorous life of a tavern keep.

[1:52:26] And if you're not in New York, check out MaximumFun.org for the meetup in your area.

[1:52:32] But if you're in Brooklyn or New York, come to mine.

[1:52:35] Okay, I'm done.

[1:52:35] And if you haven't donated by now already, please donate now.

[1:52:38] It's been a long episode.

[1:52:39] You've had plenty of time.

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[1:52:52] And then you think about it later and you're like, why am I thinking about this right now?

[1:52:55] But you are.

[1:52:56] It's stuck there.

[1:52:56] You're doing Harry Potter?

[1:52:58] It's all John Williams.

[1:53:02] That's the signal for us to sign off.

[1:53:05] So for The Flophouse, I've been Dan McCoy.

[1:53:07] Hey, I'm Stuart Wellington.

[1:53:09] I'm Elliot Kalin.

[1:53:12] And I am no man.

[1:53:14] Good night, everyone.

[1:53:17] Especially because this is an extra episode that we're doing.

[1:53:26] All because of the nice one.

[1:53:26] Sextra episode.

[1:53:27] What's going to happen instead of recommendations?

[1:53:30] We don't know.

[1:53:32] Sex-a-mandations.

[1:53:33] I think hot off of our kids' movie where we said jizz, I think, a record number of times.

[1:53:39] I think it's a good idea that we follow it up with a Sextra episode.

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Ep. #227 - 1941

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