Ep #269 - Friend Request

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss Friend Request.

[0:03] Evil is trending.

[0:06] Why did you do that? That was just the tagline for the movie.

[0:10] It's just the tagline. That's not a joke.

[0:30] Hey everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:40] Oh, hey guys, I'm Stuart the Man Wellington.

[0:44] And this is Elliot the Boy Kalin.

[0:47] Are you rethinking your nickname that you gave yourself, The Man?

[0:51] Yeah, let me do this again.

[0:54] And I'm Stuart...

[0:55] I mean, I don't see...

[0:57] i'm stewart the stewart wellington oh there you go i feel like you took a step backwards

[1:03] with that one i mean but it's a very accurate nickname and that's what we look for in nicknames

[1:07] is accuracy uh-huh that's very true all blue eyes he his eyes were blue and he got old yeah

[1:12] very accurate yeah jolton joe dimaggio he could shoot electricity from his fingers that would

[1:18] make people jolt and he loved jolt cola that's also part of it yeah and bruce bruce springsteen

[1:23] does employ people i think i think he does and a rod he has rods and cones in his eyes like we all

[1:30] do i guess he could be called a cone as well i don't know why they're just singling one rod out

[1:36] specifically but maybe i don't know well i think because they want to emphasize the fact that he

[1:40] has good nighttime vision okay as opposed to his cones which would handle color okay i didn't know

[1:46] that so this has been the flop house we talk about eyeballs and stuff yeah this has been the opt house

[1:52] the optometry podcast uh join us next time when we ask better one or better two oh better now

[2:00] or better now is that a better this is that a glass or it is better this is you you with your

[2:08] perfect vision uh i don't understand these hilarious jokes so uh when you go to the when

[2:14] you go to the glasses doctor stewart they show you to see if you need glasses what is a glasses

[2:19] is doctor called uh it's called a glassometrist okay cool uh or glass oculist i'm sorry and uh

[2:25] what they do is they show you imperceptibly different blurry images and ask you which one

[2:31] looks better and half the time you're like i i don't know i guess the second one i don't i don't

[2:35] really remember at least that's my experience yeah i feel like i feel like the ideal optometrist uh

[2:41] test is just seeing if you can tell if there's motion smoothing on the tv or not

[2:46] i mean that that detects the age of the of the exactly i don't know about the eyes the best the

[2:53] ideal optometry visit would be when you if you go to that guy who makes eyeballs in blade runner and

[2:57] he just gives you some perfect eyes just sticks them in your head uh-huh yeah um you gotta get

[3:02] there before roy batty kills him okay is that is that what they say in the advertisement like

[3:08] get on come on down before roy batty kills him on the on the door it says hours opens 9 a.m closes

[3:14] when Roy Batty kills me.

[3:16] But if you get there afterwards,

[3:18] there's a pretty decent chance

[3:19] he's going to just do some sweet-ass improv riffing

[3:22] on space shit,

[3:24] and you're like, what?

[3:25] This is crazy.

[3:27] Is this for, like, an album or something?

[3:30] Okay.

[3:34] So this is a podcast where we watch a bad movie

[3:37] and then we talk about it,

[3:38] and we're right smack dab in the middle

[3:40] of the most exciting time of the year.

[3:43] As you can tell from Dan's general energy level.

[3:46] Most exciting time of the year.

[3:48] Shocktober, where we watch shockingly scary movies.

[3:53] Yeah, if you couldn't tell, Elliot, when I got here, Dan was passed out on his bathroom floor just wearing his cowboy boots.

[3:59] Oh, boy.

[4:01] I had to dust him off, put his hat on, shove him full of steroids, and push him out on stage.

[4:06] Oh, boy.

[4:07] We call that an inner space.

[4:08] When you're just wearing underpants and cowboy boots.

[4:11] Oh, wait, hold on there, Elliot.

[4:13] I didn't say nothing about underpants.

[4:15] You thrust me out on stage wearing nothing but my cowboy boots?

[4:22] Too hot for TV, guys.

[4:25] Well, thank God we're on the podcast waves then.

[4:28] And what's weird is that you shoved him out on stage for a TED Talk.

[4:32] Yep.

[4:33] And very difficult to do those when you're not wearing pants,

[4:37] for the obvious reason that your TED Talk was about the importance of pants.

[4:39] Yeah, and the audience was very unhappy, mainly because they expected to see Teddy Ruxpin.

[4:45] The ultimate TED talk.

[4:49] How many people do you think go to those things and just like walk away fucking pissed?

[4:56] Because they're like, there was no talking bear.

[4:58] I'm going to put that number in the low ones.

[5:01] I'm going to underestimate as hard as possible what that number is, but maybe someone.

[5:08] but you're still saying above zero which means my speculation actually works uh i'm gonna take a

[5:14] quick moment before we talk about this this episode's a bad movie to mention a teddy ruxpin

[5:17] related story that uh uh my wife was taking my son to uh the autry museum here in los angeles

[5:23] which is a great museum of the american west and they used to have an exhibit about toys that was

[5:27] up a temporary exhibit and one day they didn't realize when they went that the voice of teddy

[5:31] ruxpin was going to be there ostensibly promoting the new teddy ruxpin doll but he was making like

[5:36] a personal appearance and she said there were a bunch of guys in like their early 20s so kind of

[5:41] too young to really have a teddy ruxpin doll when they were kids who knew everything about teddy

[5:45] ruxpin and were like peppering this guy with very specific questions about teddy ruxpin

[5:50] and it opened up a whole new world of fandom that i didn't even know existed

[5:55] that's great i just want to know what these sorts of questions were i'm sure i'm sure

[6:01] danielle approached these young men and were like hey would you like a babysitting job i have two

[6:06] children that you probably will do horrible i'm just joking i'm not i don't want to deride

[6:12] teddy ruxpin fans oh no but you're fine making a joke about horrible things happening to my

[6:17] children well let's talk about horrible things happening to children in the movie friend request

[6:24] so dan tell us this is shocktober and we watch scary movies why why this month in particular

[6:29] uh halloween that seems pretty okay self-evident why you know what i feel bad that october gets

[6:38] totally judged by this one holiday he's like i'm scary for one day and suddenly i'm the scary month

[6:44] you know what you know what you don't call april tax month and that's pretty scary am i right uh

[6:50] we don't call july independence month what and that's scary for i guess the people who lived

[6:55] here before the colonists came in so how come wow why am i just a scary month and what would

[6:59] you say to october to kind of make him feel better i'd be like i'd be like just chill out dude what's

[7:04] wrong what crawled up your butt and died i mean october i feel like october is leading the pack

[7:12] when you you know in in informal polls of everyone's favorite month i feel like october

[7:17] is always right up there so i think that october should just get over fucking self all right wow

[7:23] oh that's that that was very uh you're it felt like you were really puffing them up and then

[7:27] You brought some tough love at the end.

[7:28] Yeah, it sounds like we both met vinegar with more vinegar on that one.

[7:31] And the flies were like, no, thank you.

[7:35] So, okay, this movie, Friend Request, this is a movie that I'm just going to say right off the bat,

[7:42] Dan and I have a disagreement about how much this movie is similar to the last movie we did,

[7:47] Blumhouse's Truth or Dare.

[7:48] But you audience, you be the judge.

[7:51] Hey, we report, you decide.

[7:53] So let's, should we just dive into Friend Request?

[7:55] Sure.

[7:56] the totally original story of a story we've never seen before.

[7:59] I didn't say that.

[8:00] It's clearly cobbled together from a bunch of horror.

[8:03] Dan thinks that this story sprung whole cloth out of Zeus's skull.

[8:07] Yeah, Dan was like, how come everybody was going on and on about Get Out

[8:14] when Friend Request is really the original horror story of the decade,

[8:17] but you'll be the judge.

[8:19] And so we open.

[8:20] And let's specify, there's like a zillion fucking Friend Requests, right?

[8:24] Yeah.

[8:25] this there's like five movies on on imdb with the same name so which one which one did we fucking

[8:31] watch we watched the one that came out in 2017 that's the easiest way to this is the one it was

[8:38] i think a german production in south africa it's shot in south africa but they did it in english

[8:42] because the actors were english and so that's i'm gonna look up it's directed by simon verhoeven who

[8:48] is the son of a director named verhoeven but not paul verhoeven who is not german but is what dutch

[8:54] yes so and it's the one that stars alicia debnam carrie okay and a bunch of other people

[9:01] uh-huh okay that's uh so just look for a movie that stars a bunch of other people

[9:06] so this movie is not super honor which has one superstar alicia debna and harry she's on tv

[9:13] right i have no idea probably uh isn't there's somebody in there named william mosley and i was

[9:20] I had him confused with Bill Moseley from the Rob Zombie movies.

[9:24] That's sad.

[9:26] Yeah, it's not that guy.

[9:28] He's on TV, too.

[9:29] So anyway, it's the 2016, came out in America in 2017, friend request, from Entertainment Studios.

[9:39] According to Wikipedia.

[9:44] You'll like this movie, Studios.

[9:47] I mean, it's, or if you want to look for the one that's from Vitamin and Berg Film, that's also the same one.

[9:53] So, friend request.

[9:55] We start in In Academia Res as a college class gets told by their teacher that a student, a classmate of theirs, Marina.

[10:04] The thing for me is I'm like, is this guy a student or a teacher?

[10:09] Because he's fucking cool with his leather jacket, right?

[10:13] I mean, but he's clearly in his 50s or 60s.

[10:16] So unless this is a back-to-schools type scenario.

[10:18] I don't know.

[10:19] I couldn't take my eyes off that jacket, guys.

[10:23] Okay.

[10:24] Well, a cool psychology teacher in a leather jacket and an accent, which I'm guessing is German,

[10:29] tells a bunch of students that their classmate Marina committed suicide and uploaded a video of it via webcam to the school's servers.

[10:38] And that anyone caught sharing that video will be suspended.

[10:41] And we zoom in tight on the face of one student in particular, Laura Woodson, who is shocked by the news.

[10:47] Flashback to two weeks earlier, as the titles tell us, where we're introduced to Laura.

[10:51] She is your average brunette college student.

[10:53] She leads a very active social media life.

[10:55] I thought you were going to say she leads a very brunette life.

[10:58] I mean, she does lead a very brunette life in that in movies like this, brunettes are the ones who do community service and have, I don't know, boyfriends and stuff.

[11:08] She goes jogging and stuff.

[11:10] She loves jogging.

[11:11] Her main character point that we know is that she loves jogging.

[11:14] It means that she's like running to something.

[11:18] She's got a goal in sight, and she's trying to get there.

[11:20] Or running from something.

[11:22] Wow, that's the duality of jogging.

[11:24] Perhaps she posts at one point that her dad would be such and such a year's age if he was alive today.

[11:32] So just like in Truth or Dare, a movie that this is nothing like,

[11:37] There's a brunette and a blonde, and one of the two women has a dead dad.

[11:40] But that's not really a plot point.

[11:42] It never comes up again.

[11:43] It's almost like they just put it in to be like Blumhouse's Truth or Dare.

[11:46] It is kind of important, though, for the listeners at home that have that spreadsheet that they're filling out.

[11:50] That is, similarities with Blumhouse's Truth and Dare or –

[11:55] Or not.

[11:55] The Venn diagram, yeah.

[11:56] For anyone playing Shocktober 2018 bingo at home, that's when you want to put a piece on.

[12:01] And she's very popular.

[12:02] She has 840 Facebook friends, more than that.

[12:05] It's crazy.

[12:05] That's a lot.

[12:07] Did you got your friend told on Facebook so you can make Laura look stupid?

[12:13] I don't have it ready right now, Stu.

[12:16] Okay.

[12:16] Why don't you cook that up?

[12:17] I'll cook it up while you guys are.

[12:19] And you got your classic friend group.

[12:22] There's brunette girl, blonde girl, and other girl.

[12:24] And each of them has a boyfriend.

[12:26] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[12:28] But one day in class.

[12:31] And they live in like a nice, what, on-campus housing type situation.

[12:36] I can't tell if it's a dorm.

[12:37] I think they're in an apartment that's slightly off campus.

[12:41] That's my guess.

[12:42] Because when we see campus housing later, there's a single, which is very hard to get, at least at the school I went to, NYU.

[12:48] Singles were highly coveted.

[12:50] And they share – it's three of them, and I think they might mention rent at one place.

[12:54] I'm not sure.

[12:55] Maybe it's just a really nice dorm.

[12:56] Apparently it was shot at the University of South Africa, which looks really nicely appointed.

[13:00] Okay, but there's this new classmate.

[13:04] I mean, outside of the inevitable deaths, it seems like a great school to go to.

[13:09] And there are, like, weirdly harsh social media rules.

[13:12] I mean, to be fair, they are trying to protect people from posting videos of suicides, so I understand why they don't want students doing that.

[13:19] But they are supernatural suicides, right?

[13:22] We'll get to that.

[13:24] We'll get to that.

[13:25] Natural suicides.

[13:26] Oh, the suicide was supernatural.

[13:27] It was all biodegradable.

[13:29] There were no chemicals involved.

[13:31] Anyway, we shouldn't be making that up.

[13:33] Should we up front talk about, this movie deals with suicide fairly flippantly, and we're going to make jokes, but we, I don't know, we don't think it's a silly subject at all.

[13:44] Yeah, I mean, they're not real suicides because they're being forced on them by a demonic force.

[13:52] And one of them is part of a magical ritual.

[13:54] So we can say that, we would say that this is not really a movie about suicide, as we'll find out.

[14:00] But we also – I think, Stuart, that's a good point to make that we don't want to make light of that.

[14:04] That's a terrible thing, and I think we're on the record previously as expressing our own sensitivity about it.

[14:10] So let's – we won't get into that too much.

[14:13] So let me explain.

[14:14] We're now – I've been trying to get into, I think, minute seven of the movie, and I'll try – I'd like to plow forward and introduce the villain of the piece, Marina, or as she puts it on her Facebook page, Ma Space Rina, which makes no sense.

[14:29] She's a Star Wars character, right?

[14:31] I guess so.

[14:32] And she's one of these, like, you know, dark brooding girls, which you know because she wears a hoodie.

[14:38] Because in this movie, hoodie becomes the supernatural language for, like, possessed by a demon or evil.

[14:44] Just like in Blumhouse's Truth or Dare, where someone who is playing Truth or Dare and a demon possesses them is also wearing a hoodie when they weren't wearing a hoodie before.

[14:52] So mark that on the bingo board.

[14:53] Anyway, she sends a friend request to Laura, and Laura investigates her Facebook page.

[14:59] She's a very talented animator and artist, but her work has a certain Tim Burton-y sensibility, let's just say.

[15:05] Well, it's more like, yeah, the ring sensibility.

[15:08] Yeah, I guess it's like a whole Facebook full of the rings, or maybe she's just really big on the Quay Brothers animation.

[15:15] And I love, that's a pretty well-curated Facebook page.

[15:20] oh there is literally nothing on there that doesn't fit that theme she's very on message

[15:27] and maybe that's why she has zero friends on her facebook page putting all this work into putting

[15:32] these elaborate uh i feel like she would have to actively like weed out bots and shit if she

[15:37] wanted to stay at zero friends yeah it's true yeah every day she checks for bots trying to

[15:42] sell sunglasses to her or sway her vote and then and she has to remove them uh so uh her friend

[15:48] Laura's friends think Marina's weird, and Marina has put up a cartoon specifically of a dream she had about a spooky woods where there's a mirror attached to a tree.

[15:55] Ooh, and Laura's intrigued, and she talks to Marina, and they become friends.

[15:59] You know what?

[16:00] She accepts that friend request.

[16:01] Seems like a nice thing to do, but as we learned from No Good Deed, No Good Deed goes unpunished.

[16:07] Even though in that movie it actually—

[16:10] Yeah, that's what I walked away with.

[16:11] Except even though in that movie it was actually not a good deed that went punished, but in fact a plan ahead of time to hurt a specific person.

[16:18] Which one was no good, Dean?

[16:20] With Idris Elba, where the woman lets Idris Elba into her home to use her phone.

[16:25] And he...

[16:26] Was that Obsession?

[16:28] No, Obsession was the one where Idris Elba is married to Beyoncé.

[16:33] And is it Ali Larder is trying to steal him from Beyoncé?

[16:36] Yeah, and her arms grow super long.

[16:38] Even at the time, it seemed weird.

[16:40] But now the very idea of a movie where someone's married from Beyoncé and another woman is like,

[16:44] Yeah, I think I can pull him away.

[16:47] Yeah, yeah, yeah. The level of hubris is astounding.

[16:50] It's like that is a real, your arms are too short to box with God scenario.

[16:54] I mean, which I guess is, I mean, Jay-Z is not, from what I remember from the gossip trades, is not particularly faithful, so maybe I'm overestimating.

[17:03] But anyway, so, and if I'm wrong, don't sue me for defamation.

[17:08] I'm just, I got that from a blind item.

[17:10] It said, what one-letter last-named rapper was seen not with his queen of a wife?

[17:17] I was like, I don't know who this could be.

[17:19] So anyway.

[17:20] Caught canoodling.

[17:21] No one is ever canoodling and not caught.

[17:26] So I guess if you don't want to get caught, don't canoodle.

[17:28] Yeah, the alliteration is just too tempting for gossip writers.

[17:33] But she befriends Marina, but Marina keeps bugging Laura, pun very much intended,

[17:40] because later marina is surrounded by clouds of wasps all the time okay marina just keeps bothering

[17:45] her she comments on everyone laura's post she's photoshopping herself into pictures of laura which

[17:49] is weird and they look at marina's older posts again like we said there's all these these ring

[17:54] you type videos everywhere you got your satanic scarred pregnant bellies you got corpses you got

[17:59] feet stepping on dolls heads the whole kit and caboodle canoodle yeah and there's later on we

[18:04] realize she has pictures of like swollen wasp stung child corpses that were like kids she

[18:11] magically killed yes like that's wild dude angie threw it through like a black and white filter

[18:17] look yeah one yeah the filter worked but two let's just say we all know that facebook has

[18:23] not been keeping up to its terms of service and the rules on what is allowed and what's not allowed

[18:27] on it's like they're like uh well we want to kick off marina's video of kids mutilated kids that

[18:33] she killed but we also want to be a platform for free speech and who are we to judge what's

[18:39] acceptable speech or not yes that's facebook yep they're like something happened your feed got

[18:45] filled with all these creepy pics would it be amazing if facebook's algorithm was just like

[18:50] yeah sure why not let's just throw it out there and suddenly everyone's mom was getting it was

[18:54] getting these videos in their feeds that are as we mentioned very well animated oh yeah i mean she

[19:00] has real talent that's the thing she's at the wrong school she should be at like cal arts

[19:04] she should be at like risdy maybe savannah like she would be very well accepted there i don't

[19:10] know why she's at this like the school for kids who like to party and jog it doesn't make sense

[19:14] because she's not going to get invited those parties such as laura's birthday party her

[19:20] friends tell her why'd you invite marina your birthday party you should disinvite her and

[19:24] laura's like i'm not actually going to have a party but marina knows that's a lie because

[19:28] someone posts about it on facebook well well well seems your best friend facebook has become

[19:34] your greatest betrayer hoist on your own face hard uh and marina somehow i do like the party

[19:42] it's the like classic teens having the like we're gonna live forever party and you're like

[19:47] oh you guys aren't gonna live forever there's the guy there's the classic his name is gustavo he's

[19:52] the chubby jokey friend and he's like you know what to us and to our great futures and to our

[19:57] wonderful careers and to laura you're the best and we're gonna be friends for yeah it literally

[20:01] is that they're all and uh laura's mom is there and she's acting like she loves being around laura's

[20:05] friends and i just have to imagine she's like oh these kids they're so irritating yeah i do like

[20:10] that the mom is introduced with very little fanfare like all of a sudden you're like the mom's

[20:15] there i thought it was there was a lot someone just says i've been trying to get your mom drunk

[20:19] before you got here and i was like wait what and then a couple shots later you see a woman who

[20:24] looks slightly older than them and it's like oh that's her mom yeah that was weird like i did i

[20:29] had no idea what was going on guys guys i think i could be a gustavo yeah oh yo i think so well

[20:35] give us your best i think i think i'm settling into the more the gustavo than the ronron

[20:41] member i certainly hope so i don't know i always thought it was a ronron do you think ronrons as

[20:47] they age naturally become gustavos yeah i guess that's probably the natural lifespan of of like

[20:53] a party dude side character.

[20:55] Now, so, and I will leave unsaid

[21:00] the similarities between Ron Ron and Gustavo

[21:02] because as we've mentioned,

[21:03] Truth or Dare and Friend Request

[21:04] are very different movies

[21:05] that are not at all similar.

[21:06] Ron Ron is a character for the ages, my friend.

[21:10] Gustavo did not even...

[21:12] Dan's brow furrowed so deeply

[21:13] I think I saw into his brain.

[21:16] There was no...

[21:17] I did not even register Gustavo.

[21:19] I mean, also the fact that

[21:22] Gustavo, I didn't realize his name until much later when after he dies and someone calls him Gustavo.

[21:27] I was like, oh, okay.

[21:28] But Ron Ron, I knew who he was right off the bat.

[21:31] It was like, how do you not know Ron Ron?

[21:33] What a character.

[21:34] So everyone gives a dumb speech, but Marina is watching sadly from outside.

[21:38] She's mad.

[21:40] Is she covered in wasps at this point?

[21:42] No, she's still just covered in a hoodie and the darkness of her loneliness.

[21:46] So she accosts Laura in, what, the dining hall?

[21:50] And they get into an argument, and Laura shoves her, which jostles Marina's hood, revealing, what, that she's missing hair?

[21:56] Now, this is something I couldn't – I didn't track.

[21:59] Did she push her so hard all her hair fell out?

[22:02] No, that's not what happened.

[22:05] I don't think that's what the movie was trying to get across.

[22:07] I think the movie was implying that either she tears her own hair out out of anxiety or has some kind of hair loss thing because later her victims start to tear their hair out.

[22:15] But this is something that, like, I didn't quite notice when I first watched it, and I had to figure it out later.

[22:21] Like, oh, that's what happened there.

[22:23] And Marina, Laura feels bad, but her friends are like, just don't talk to her anymore.

[22:27] And Marina starts sending Laura tons of creepy apologetic messages like, please, I'm sorry.

[22:32] Ah, come on.

[22:33] Be friends.

[22:34] I love you.

[22:35] We're best friends forever.

[22:36] And I mean, somebody.

[22:37] She she's exhibiting behavior.

[22:40] Somebody that has.

[22:41] I don't know.

[22:42] Could you need some help?

[22:43] Yeah, I would.

[22:45] As someone – but I could sympathize with Laura a little bit here.

[22:48] As someone who often has trouble not responding to people who either want to be friendly or communicate and then later find myself being like, oh, I don't really have a lot in common with this person.

[22:58] Like this is not someone who's really a friend of mine, but I feel anxious when I don't get back in touch with them relatively quickly and like – but it's just adding stress to my life.

[23:07] So I'm just going to say, Laura, you're not a good person as seen by what happens in the movie, but I sympathize with the hard situation you got put in.

[23:17] Marina's sending Laura all these apologetic messages.

[23:20] It's really harsh, and Laura starts hallucinating the things from Marina's cartoons, and then we're back to the first scene, and we get the news that Marina has taken her own life.

[23:30] Terrible.

[23:32] But we also learned that somehow all of her personal information has been deleted from the school's database.

[23:38] And nobody found her body.

[23:42] Yeah, they just saw the video.

[23:43] And I feel like we end up seeing that video later, and it looks like a homemade video.

[23:55] And based on her quality of work up to this point, I would, like, I would assume that this was not a, like, that this was just a video.

[24:04] Like, it doesn't actually, I don't know, it doesn't actually look like a filmed suicide.

[24:09] No, it looks like a, it looks like a produced kind of amateur horror movie video.

[24:14] And you're right.

[24:15] It just seems weird that with no body or, and that's the only evidence, it seems weird that the police immediately are, I don't know.

[24:25] Well, as shown by the level of quality of the police in this film, I believe it because the police are terrible in this movie and they basically just keep going up to the college students being like, hey, so you're going to tell us what's going on now?

[24:36] I do like the second detective who is like the sassiest guy who it feels like right before the movie he watched Street Fire, The Legend of Chun-Li and he's like, I'm going to be the next Chris Klein.

[24:51] So there's a great moment later on, I'll just skip ahead to where he is making it very clear on the phone that he does not want Chinese food for dinner when he should be watching the person who's in danger of being attacked by a demon.

[25:02] And he's just he's just saying, no, not Chinese, not Chinese.

[25:06] No, not Chinese, not Chinese.

[25:09] OK, we can have Chinese.

[25:11] And it's like, you know, he walked in and realized, like, guys, I know what I'm going to say on the phone during this scene.

[25:15] It feels like an actor workshopped moment.

[25:18] But I just love he's literally just saying it to the phone.

[25:20] No, not Chinese.

[25:21] now not no not chinese i don't want chinese now now you had mentioned that uh laura had been

[25:27] hallucinating some images like some images from the videos that marina had made yes and all of

[25:33] these hallucinations and dreams she have follow the same pattern that is kind of set up by an

[25:39] earlier moment in the movie where she is given a video of a cute kitten by her friend and then

[25:46] the cute kitten immediately turns into a monster thing and that's basically the template for this

[25:51] whole movie like every single scare is normal normal normal oh gross thing yeah it's tons of

[25:57] jump scares where it's like yeah walking around walking around looking at a wall mutilated face

[26:02] so if walking around walking around so i appreciate the movie something comes out of you i appreciate

[26:07] that the movie has that like statement of purpose right up front and then like you're like basically

[26:13] that's like a if you're you have to be this tall to ride this ride type thing like if you can handle

[26:19] this scare you can handle the rest of this you think it was a a subtle commentary you think that

[26:24] they're like we're gonna put in a literal cat scare at the beginning to signal to the audience

[26:30] what they're in for uh cat scare i've never heard of that dan what's that well that's that's when

[26:36] you have you need the doctor sends you in for further scare tests and they send you to get a

[26:40] cat scare okay i thought you i thought it was when you thought that maybe you're pregnant with a cat

[26:46] briefly oh yeah we've all been there but luckily yep that's a scene from uh deleted scene from

[26:54] sleepwalkers i think that's right or cat people okay so sorry for the digression uh oliver and

[27:04] company uh sort of so uh no but stewart i'm glad you mentioned that because i actually did i forgot

[27:11] about that scene and did not make that connection that they're literally that the movie is literally

[27:15] like hey we're gonna do this we don't have any other ideas uh so marina somehow sends laura

[27:23] another message but as we all know she's dead even though they didn't find her body uh and it's a

[27:27] burning picture of laura it's this is this is the video she's burns a picture of laura then hangs

[27:33] herself over the fire and i guess catches on fire and they try to delete the video but an unknown

[27:38] error occurs they can't do it and then the facebook page starts posting it to laura's page and tagging

[27:43] all of her friends ah and they're all commenting like why would you do this that's sick stop this

[27:47] don't do this everyone's really taking the time to write comments and i think that's part of the

[27:52] social age is that people finally have the time to make comments on videos that they don't like

[27:57] rather than just turning them off they can write hey gross don't do that unfriend me i don't like

[28:02] this yeah they they take a break from commenting positive things over at the garfield fan page

[28:10] where the official Garfield Facebook page

[28:13] that posts a picture of Garfield every day

[28:16] and like thousands of people make comments

[28:19] that are like, I love Garfield

[28:20] or that's too much lasagna.

[28:23] So they'll take a break from doing that

[28:26] to go comment on this horrible video.

[28:29] Stuart, I think you say that

[28:31] as if you're not part of that mob.

[28:32] I have to believe you are.

[28:34] It's probably my favorite corner of the internet

[28:38] to be honest.

[28:39] Now, what are your feelings on Garfield's feelings about spiders?

[28:42] Wait, what?

[28:44] I don't know anything about this.

[28:46] Oh, it's one of his lesser known traits, Garfield.

[28:49] Oh, yeah, he hates spiders.

[28:50] He's always smashing them.

[28:51] That's on the backside of his resume.

[28:53] So everyone knows Front hates Mondays, loves lasagna, questionably overweight since he's gotten slimmer as the years have gone on.

[29:02] Which is really, if anything, it's a positive example to all of us that we're not stuck in the body we're in.

[29:08] we can be proud of the body we're in but if we want to change it for some reason we can change

[29:13] it just look at garfield he's a cat i don't know somehow somehow he's gone from overweight

[29:18] to just slightly pleasingly plump you know society might not like my nice thick garfield

[29:24] but i love him i remember as a teen always being made fun of by my friends because i

[29:31] liked thicker garfields what a dumb thing that was but now i want to go on that garfield page

[29:39] and do that every day just be like watch out normal he looks like he's got mischief on his mind

[29:43] okay she's losing but she's losing friends are you gonna fucking tag normal in that comment

[29:52] because if not you're like come on dude you gotta let him know

[29:56] so yeah laura's friend count starts dropping and it leads to the best line in the movie i

[30:01] I think, or one of the two best lines.

[30:03] This is from her blonde friend who says,

[30:04] unfriend that dead bitch.

[30:06] But she can't do it.

[30:09] Facebook won't let her unfriend it.

[30:10] Also should have been the title of the movie.

[30:12] Yeah.

[30:13] We didn't mention that this movie was,

[30:15] in other countries, it was titled Unfriended,

[30:18] like the movie that we watched, I think, last year.

[30:21] Yeah.

[30:22] The one that all takes place on a computer desktop.

[30:27] Oh, definitely a better movie.

[30:28] I would say, I didn't love that movie,

[30:30] but still a much better movie than this.

[30:31] But, yeah, it was called Unfriended in other countries, which is a lateral move from friend request, I have to say.

[30:38] I mean, this 100% should have been called Delete Your Account, right?

[30:42] Yeah.

[30:42] Yeah, I guess so.

[30:44] It seems to be the overwhelming chant over the middle third of the movie.

[30:49] But she can't delete her account.

[30:50] She even calls tech support, although the guy on the phone says to her, this is not the call center.

[30:55] So I don't know who she's calling, Zuckerberg?

[30:57] Ma'am, this is Kinko's.

[30:59] I can't help you at all.

[31:01] she's like zucks i'm having trouble with your facebook page can you uh can you undo it and

[31:06] he's like do you mean to call zuckus the star wars bounty hunter and she's like no you mark

[31:10] zuckerberg oh people call me markieberg i'm sorry no one calls me zucks yes what's the problem yeah

[31:15] yeah zuckerberg's i think we can all agree that zuckerberg's more of a forlom than a zuckus right

[31:21] guys oh boy is he ever oh but meanwhile elon musk more of a dengar

[31:28] i guess actually of all those guys steve bannon would be the dengar because he's the guy could

[31:34] mostly just wearing soiled like scarves wound around his head uh so anyway uh laura goes for

[31:42] help to this guy kobe who i couldn't tell if he was like her ex-boyfriend or just a guy who had

[31:47] a crush on her he doesn't see or just a really good boyfriend or just yeah the best beef you can

[31:52] get yeah could be uh and he but he's a computer hacker of course you can tell because he's got

[31:58] hand tattoos and he had he doesn't and he has a neck tattoo too right which means maybe he's a

[32:05] chef he probably is and he uh he is still holding a torch for laura right yes yeah he still has a

[32:12] thing for laura so going to him you know that's the last thing she wants to do but she needs his

[32:16] help so he had i don't know i think maybe that maybe she you know she likes being around him

[32:20] i mean every it's everything about her voice uh physical appearance when she's near him the way

[32:27] she her body language her attitude says the opposite that she does not like to be around

[32:31] him okay maybe i was paying too close attention to the uh closed captions rather than the images

[32:36] on the screen well i think you just saw this guy with tattoos and you're like this guy looks cool

[32:40] okay maybe he's the ron ron of the movie although to be honest uh i recognize that actor because he

[32:45] played uh like a a petulant young man on the television show revenge where he spent most of

[32:53] the most of the show like complaining that nobody wants him to date this much richer uh younger

[32:58] woman uh and so i i don't know i kind of carried that that negative feeling into this movie i don't

[33:05] know if that's right maybe maybe i maybe i did him wrong what do you guys think i mean you can't i

[33:10] I mean it's part of I guess classical Hollywood film theory that when you see an actor in a role, you carry with them your memories of all their previous roles.

[33:18] It's the things that would allow someone like Cary Grant or Humphrey Bogart or James Cagney or Katharine Hepburn or Barbara Stanwyck to build a persona larger than what she's given – or he or she has given to her.

[33:29] Ernest from the Ernest movies.

[33:30] Ernest from the Ernest movies, exactly.

[33:32] I mean that's the same – that's literally the same character, so it's not the same thing at all.

[33:35] It's literally Ernest.

[33:37] Well, well, Elliot.

[33:39] It's kind of the ultimate in that example, I think.

[33:42] Not at all.

[33:43] They literally follow from one movie to the next.

[33:46] That's why every Ernest movie, there's a mid-credit sequence where Samuel L. Jackson tells him where he needs to go next.

[33:52] Guess what?

[33:53] Guess what?

[33:54] You're going to be scared, stupid motherfucker.

[33:56] And then he looks at the camera and goes, what?

[33:57] And then it says to be continued, you know.

[33:59] And then all the guys in the theater explain to their dates what just happened.

[34:03] Or some of the girls explain to their dates.

[34:07] No, I know.

[34:07] Of course.

[34:09] the uh girls can be nerds too stewart team comics uh i mean i think i was mainly making a mansplaining

[34:15] joke uh to mansplain my joke to you uh i didn't get it so what you're describing elliot is probably

[34:22] the reason every time i see an ad for this is us pop up on my television it brings me back to

[34:29] watching gilmore girls and seeing milo ventimiglia playing jess the worst character in the history of

[34:34] television and then i and then i throw an old boot through the tv screen and i go buy a new

[34:39] fucking tv yeah and then you look at the camera somebody old boots around yeah well he then then

[34:44] stewart looks at the camera and says i lose more tvs that way yep somebody should keep those boots

[34:51] out of arm's reach for me that reminds me of when i was a little kid and my and i got like really

[34:56] we're just in a stewart one man show now i think which i love it's just one memory daisy chaining

[35:00] to the next stewart what's next when i was uh when i was a kid i like threw a tantrum and broke

[35:05] something and my parents were like uh so next time how can we keep this from happening and i was like

[35:12] well maybe keep stuff out of my reach what a man what an asshole what an idiot

[35:20] not the answer they were looking for uh so kobe hacks into marina's account which is still active

[35:27] and he sees all this morphing occult symbols

[35:29] and he goes, this isn't even code.

[35:30] I don't know what this is.

[35:31] It looks like matrix code,

[35:34] but it's all like Satan letters.

[35:36] It looked like the screensaver

[35:37] that my buddy Porter used to have running on the screen

[35:39] while he was downloading trance albums

[35:42] and like bootleg anime.

[35:44] I just love that when,

[35:46] like we've got witchcraft going on here,

[35:48] but for some reason,

[35:49] witchcraft still needs to use some kind of code.

[35:52] Like it's crazy witch code,

[35:54] but it still exists.

[35:56] There's still a source code.

[35:57] Well, as Warren Ellis might say, magic is just the cheat code for reality.

[36:01] Oh.

[36:02] So it's even –

[36:04] Sounds like a real asshole to me.

[36:07] I mean, Warren Ellis, I mean, as long as you don't get –

[36:09] When did he say that?

[36:10] At like a bar?

[36:11] I mean, he typed it at a bar onto his mobile device, which he needed to tell everybody about how amazing it was.

[36:18] Now that's a specific reference to Warren Ellis' old mailing list where he would talk at incredible lengths about how amazing his mobile devices were back when people didn't all have cell phones that had data plans.

[36:29] Anyway, I guess magic is also just a programming language and a software code.

[36:34] But you make a good point, Dan.

[36:35] It's stupid.

[36:36] So – but then one of Laura's friends, the aforementioned Gustavo, he's the next victim.

[36:42] He finds a room – or the first victim.

[36:43] He finds a room full of weird baby dolls and flies and melty-faced kids.

[36:47] Gustavo is targeted to be the first victim.

[36:48] Do you think he was the best of them all?

[36:50] It's one of those things where in real life, you think Marina would strike at the person who would most affect Laura because what she wants is for Laura to feel alone.

[37:00] So you'd think that she would first attack the person that would have the most impact on Laura or maybe she would start small and get bigger, but that seems unlikely.

[37:08] But I think because in the movie, you kill off the least important character and also the one who has like any sort of personality.

[37:17] You kill off the jokey one first because they're the least important to the rest of the movie usually.

[37:22] But much the same way that in Avengers Infinity War, I had a real issue with Thanos' battle plan because it opened by sending hordes and hordes of foot soldiers out, and then they followed it up with these enormous war machines that could just roll over opposing armies.

[37:39] Uh-huh. Go on.

[37:40] Dude, that's not what you do.

[37:40] You send out your big metal first to really kill as many as you can.

[37:45] Then you send out the foot soldiers once they've been softened up.

[37:47] But in a movie, you have to heighten.

[37:49] So you can't do it that way.

[37:51] You have to heighten the threats.

[37:51] Do you think maybe it was also Thanos was just trying to show off how little regard he holds his foot soldiers in?

[37:57] And he's just like, I got zillions of these turds.

[37:59] You can kill as many as you want.

[38:01] Maybe.

[38:02] It's like that moment in Braveheart where they go, should we shoot more arrows?

[38:05] Arrows cost money.

[38:07] Send in the soldiers.

[38:09] Now, that's a real Thanos, the King of England.

[38:13] He was the original Thanos.

[38:15] That's a real Thanos.

[38:17] Hey, Stuart Wellington.

[38:18] All you need to know is that Gustavo goes into an elevator, the power goes out, and then Laura's friend, Isabel, this is the non-Laura or blonde friend friend, this is just the other friend.

[38:29] This is Gustavo's girlfriend, right?

[38:31] And Gustavo's girlfriend opens the elevator door and sees Gustavo slamming his head against the walls until his head is just a bloody pulp.

[38:39] Isabel is sent to the hospital with, I guess, a case of being very afraid.

[38:42] It's never quite clear why she's in the hospital, but they she's like, Laura, you know who killed him.

[38:48] And guess what?

[38:49] Some prankster posts the video of Gustavo's death onto Laura's Facebook page.

[38:55] And everyone's like, Laura, why do you keep doing this?

[38:57] And they also they also realize that Marina, who is still operating on Facebook, friended Gustavo right before he died.

[39:09] That's right. Yeah. Which I would think at this point would lend more credence to the idea that

[39:13] she hadn't committed suicide yet. Yes. But they immediately jumped to the idea of her being kind

[39:18] of a ghost or a witch. Uh, now, I mean, she does have that crazy magic code. So that, that backs

[39:24] up that idea. I assume that Gustavo accepted the friend request because he saw it said Marina and

[39:28] he was like, I love the water. I love to be at the shore. I love boats. Yes. I would love to

[39:33] friend request that sounds great he remembers back to his uh he remembers back to his spring break

[39:38] on crete and the mediterranean waves in his face he's like i i bet i get 10 off of catamaran rentals

[39:46] i'm a friend of the marina on facebook so yes a thousand times yes i will yes yes i accept your

[39:52] friend request a thousand times yes make me the happiest friend in the world and then they have

[39:57] a facebook marriage and it's beautiful uh laura gets suspended from school because everyone's like

[40:02] laura stop posting these videos to your page and she's like i didn't do it i don't know yep yeah

[40:07] and then secretly they're assuming that she turns around and looks at the camera and says ain't i a

[40:11] stinker but so uh the kobe tells marina oh it tells laura oh marina has pictures of wasps

[40:22] everywhere and legend says that wasps follow witches around now guys i'm not a witchologist

[40:28] is this true dan you're a you're a student of the mystic arts do wasps follow witches around because

[40:34] i know they have familiars like cats often follow witches around wasps yeah i don't i've never heard

[40:39] this one i mean like you know you you often hear of like demons having flies buzzing around them

[40:46] you know yeah yeah to indicate rot but i i don't think that wasps are a thing i mean they're a

[40:54] thing in the world yeah thank you for clarifying don't don't i mean if you've got a wasp nest in

[40:59] your home like don't take my advice and think like oh they're not a thing and just like allow

[41:04] them to sing you like you gotta get that thing out of there now i imagine dan you're watching

[41:08] the movie and you see a wasp and you're like what is this bizarre dr seussical creature

[41:12] its bottom is much larger than its top now here's an imaginary beast and where to find it

[41:19] uh now does this explain why if they're always followed around by wasps does this explain why

[41:25] those witches were always at martha's vineyard i don't know okay i get what you're saying

[41:30] get it get it's a different kind of wasp it's okay i can make that joke i'm jewish so anyway

[41:35] uh they investigate they investigate marina's dorm room and all this stuff and they find out

[41:40] that she was a word of the state who was sent to some kind of boarding school where she was a loner

[41:46] who would often just spend time exploring the dark web

[41:48] and staring at her own reflection in the computer screen.

[41:51] And these other kids, the other kids,

[41:53] they said, hey, she's giving us nightmares,

[41:55] and two boys beat her up,

[41:57] and they were found later dead

[41:59] with faces mutilated by wasp stings.

[42:01] And guys, did it make you feel as old

[42:03] as it made me feel that they can say,

[42:05] oh yeah, when she was a little girl,

[42:06] she was investigating the dark corners of the internet?

[42:08] Because when I was a little boy, we did not have that.

[42:10] And it made me feel very old

[42:12] that she had it when she was a girl.

[42:13] I did not think about it,

[42:15] But that does make me feel old now.

[42:17] Well, guys, it's easy to forget, you know, that when you're younger that even though, like, we might look back on that time as, like, an idyllic paradise, it actually had some dark corners, you know.

[42:28] And it's a good thing that Friend Request kicks over those rocks.

[42:31] And we realize that, you know, back in the day, there was a dark web.

[42:34] Yeah, true.

[42:36] But it was all GeoCities and AngelFire sites.

[42:38] Took them very long to load.

[42:40] Uh-huh.

[42:40] But when it loaded, oh, boy.

[42:42] Gross.

[42:43] Oh, watch out.

[42:43] she was always on the uh yeah on the on the witchcraft uh news groups

[42:47] so the computer hacker he does some more research about dark mirror cults turns out there's a ritual

[42:55] where i do like that when he's i do like that when he's googling black mirror it does one of

[43:01] the autofill options is like black mirror season three oh yeah that's pretty cool that's a little

[43:07] bit of realism yeah i think one of the pictures that he finds in the uh in his research that's

[43:12] supposed to be a seance i think it's from one of fritz lang's dr mabuza movies so somebody i guess

[43:17] was having a little bit of fun there with german filmmaking uh i assume that was director verhoeven

[43:22] being like hey he's a little easter egg for the real german cineasts for the fans of deutsche

[43:27] film uh so deutsche kino but uh the uh finds that there was a ritual where you got revenge on people

[43:35] by killing yourself hanging yourself in front of a mirror over a fire and you turn into a demon and

[43:39] as soon as he learns this all the screens the computer lab go nuts and the lights go out and

[43:43] he's like ah ah ah and the scene ends with a friendly silent janitor who does not understand

[43:50] what this crazy kid is up to walks in this janitor favorite character in the movie just gonna tell

[43:55] you guys this he appears in just this one scene and he says more with his like come on what's this

[44:01] what's this nonsense look at the kid than anyone else does it's more acting in that one moment than

[44:05] anyone else has in the whole movie yeah and i just love that character yeah it's the it's it's that

[44:09] kind of like side character who gets almost no lines big laugh like uh like the the hotel maid

[44:17] in ghostbusters it's the same kind of performance or the scene and it's a mad mad mad mad world

[44:23] where they're the plane is flying around and they go they go it might crash get the fire department

[44:28] and or something like oh the firemen are here and you pan over and you just see that the firemen are

[44:32] the three stooges and they don't say anything and they do not appear again in the movie

[44:36] and every time i've seen that that's the biggest laugh in the entire film is just like because you

[44:40] know who the three stooges are uh-oh this is gonna be trouble they're not gonna be good firemen

[44:44] thousands will be killed probably from their antics it's like that thing you're talking about

[44:48] how once you see earnest in one movie every time you see earnest in another movie it just builds on

[44:53] the like the soupy flavor of a delicious earnest performance it's similar because the three stooges

[44:59] do play basically the same characters okay but it's not exactly the same as what i was saying

[45:03] earlier where i was talking about an actor carrying a persona from one role to the next

[45:08] so that when you watch a movie with humphrey bogart even if the movie doesn't do a great

[45:12] job of building his personality you already know it from his previous roles and it imbues it with

[45:16] a greater strength almost like a bouillabaisse or a sauce that's been reduced for many many years

[45:21] you know but yeah no it's yeah earnest uh and the three stooges actually this janitor is kind of

[45:25] like if Ernest P. Worrell was a real person,

[45:27] like that's kind of the look I get from it.

[45:29] And I know Jim Varney was a real person.

[45:31] I'm like a cartoon character, yeah.

[45:32] I know Jim Varney was a real person,

[45:34] but like he was playing it as a crazy character.

[45:35] He wasn't, I thought he was animated.

[45:38] Yeah, he was on mocap.

[45:41] Yeah.

[45:41] Dan, what were you going to say?

[45:44] No, I was trying to work in some joke

[45:46] about the importance of being Ernest in here,

[45:48] but I don't think it worked.

[45:50] Viva Variety beat you to that by almost 20 years, Dan.

[45:53] Well, it beat me to a lot of things.

[45:55] do you remember they did that bit where they had jim varney and it was the importance of being

[45:59] earnest with jim varney and it and they're all talking about this rascal earnest but they're

[46:04] all talking about it as if it's a yeah and he's he's teaching someone how to say you know what i

[46:08] mean vern i think okay uh so then marina goes after isabel in the hospital sends all her regular goons

[46:16] the pregnant corpse kids with no faces yep isabel kills herself does that video get posted on laura's

[46:21] facebook feed you know it but she's already been suspended from school now at this point and at

[46:25] she's outside the law she's in the hospital isabella's running around obviously scared

[46:29] and her face is constantly mascara streaked and i feel like it's taken place over a couple this

[46:35] has taken place over a day or so like why does she keep putting mascara on uh because stewart

[46:40] unfortunately our society judges women even when they're in the hospital you're right on keeping

[46:45] up their appearance that way it's unfair but friend request is all about turning a mirror

[46:49] on the unfair things in life a black mirror if you will oh cool it's like a turned off computer

[46:54] um the idea uh another another great performance that has no dialogue at all is when isabella's

[47:03] parents finding out that her daughter is dead are walking down the hall and give laura the

[47:08] bitchiest look which she deserves but i don't know the parents really know why she deserves it uh

[47:16] so that kobe is like we've got to destroy her black mirror we need to find her laptop and

[47:21] destroy it and then the ritual will be over uh of course marina goes after laura's blonde friend

[47:26] first the worst thing that she does to any of them she's printing all of these occult symbols

[47:30] on a black background from laura's friend's printer and it's like you're using up all of

[47:35] her ink she's a college student she has to print out term papers she's gonna have she's gonna end

[47:40] up with those pages that are really like all faded because she doesn't have enough ink for

[47:44] all the letters she's gonna hand that in her psych professor who has already admonished her for using

[47:49] social media and class is not going to accept it this is i mean that goes beyond the pale just

[47:53] using up all her ink dan how would you react to that uh poorly i don't know what you're i don't

[47:59] know what you're teeing me up for here elliot i'm just saying you're a writer you understand

[48:03] how important it is to have ink in your printer is that a that sounds like a euphemism or something

[48:08] yeah speaking of dan uh i have some ground up rhino horn this will put ink in your printer

[48:12] so anyway then the cgi wasps attack oh no so they learn more about marina she her mother was in a

[48:22] cult whose house burned down and then they kind of if i misunderstood but it kind of made it seem

[48:26] like the mother was killed in the fire but they kept her on life support until marina was born

[48:30] which leads to my other favorite line in the movie she was alone in the womb for months

[48:35] as if that was that's a sinister thing when unless you're a twin like me everyone's alone in the womb

[48:41] for nine months like that's how it works that's how it works everybody so should i worry that

[48:46] you two guys are gonna attack me because you're so lonely from being in the womb by yourself like

[48:52] what is that supposed to mean she should have invited some friends over is that why yeah is

[48:57] that why you moved away elliot so that we wouldn't attack you with our our lonely womb rage i was

[49:03] like where can i go that has the most twins so there aren't people who just going insane from

[49:07] the from the solitary confinement that is the womb oh no mm-hmm so rage of course what womb

[49:16] rage yeah it's like the phrase that stewart uttered lonely womb rage i think that's some

[49:22] appreciation that that could be a death metal band right lonely womb rage yeah it's a song

[49:27] uh which which reminds me that uh have you guys ever seen uh there's a there's a softcore movie

[49:35] that's a parody of tomb raider that's called womb raider and i think it's very funny because it's

[49:39] like that's not the thing that people think of as like sexy it's like a womb that's really weird

[49:45] like most of these titles have like bust in the in the title which makes more sense right womb

[49:50] do you think and it makes it sound like you're like someone's stealing a baby from inside of

[49:53] yeah that's the original title of uh what was that the inside that french inside yeah it was

[49:59] womb raider that was the french title and they were like i don't think this is gonna fly in

[50:05] america in america uh oh man that movie's gross so uh the blonde friend oh no and laura's friend

[50:13] count has dropped to 24 by this point which the movie presents as if it's a really bad thing when

[50:17] it's like well a bunch of her friends are dead so that's worse than her facebook friends count

[50:21] going down yeah at this point i don't really care if her facebook friend count has gone down

[50:25] it's not that's marina's goal but it'd be one thing if she was maybe like if her it at no point

[50:31] other than the fact that she likes to document stuff on facebook it never really showed that

[50:35] like having having a lot of friends on facebook was that important to her like maybe if she was

[50:42] like one of her things was applying for a job or something where they're like oh you need to have a

[50:47] very active social media presence in order to get this job but like it's not it's not like tied to

[50:52] were goals or anything right i mean they're trying to like use it i mean like they're trying to use

[50:58] it as an indicator of real life friendship which is why i think it would be funny if there was like

[51:02] one friend that she had who didn't use facebook at all and like the movie turned into a comedy

[51:08] of just like her trying to like keep this information away from her friend or just marina

[51:13] keeps trying to get that person on facebook because she can only kill people who have

[51:17] Except for her friend.

[51:17] Marina sends her like a fucking American online CD.

[51:20] Or it could be funny.

[51:26] There's the people that Laura like only like knew years ago and doesn't know anymore.

[51:30] And they're like, I guess I'll check out what Laura's up to since high school.

[51:33] Whoa, whoa.

[51:34] What is she into?

[51:36] Jeez Louise.

[51:38] Lauren.

[51:40] Then while Laura and Kobe are poking around this burned out cult farm, her blonde friend in the hospital.

[51:47] She gets possessed while the cop, as I mentioned before, is talking on his phone about how he does not want Chinese food for dinner.

[51:52] The blonde manages to wrest the cop's gun away from him and shoot herself.

[51:56] And the cop's partner gives him a look like, come on, man.

[51:59] Like, seriously?

[52:01] It's pretty great.

[52:03] I kind of love these two cops.

[52:05] At one point, the second detective was like, so where did she torture herself?

[52:11] And you're like, really?

[52:12] You asked that?

[52:15] I mean, it made me want to see a movie that's from the point of view of the cops who are trying to figure out something that's going on with a bunch of teens in a horror movie.

[52:22] And they're like, we are reaching a lot of dead ends, everybody.

[52:25] We just know teens are dying, but we cannot figure it out.

[52:28] Oh, somebody tell us something.

[52:29] Yeah, these two cops with a clear, rich inner life based around not wanting Chinese food.

[52:35] Anyway, they wander around this cult farm.

[52:40] Laura doesn't see anything spooky while Kobe keeps seeing spooky things.

[52:43] I saw something pretty spooky, a really sick tag that said Satan.

[52:48] That's how you know it's cool.

[52:53] Because Satan was there when he was a 16-year-old, and he was like, check this out.

[52:57] He's like, check this out, I've been really working on my bubble letters.

[53:00] He was going to put in Satan plus Debbie forever, but he ran out of time.

[53:06] He had to go.

[53:07] But it's like an Abbott and Costello movie almost, where she will wander past a hallway and not notice the ghost in it.

[53:12] and then kobe is like anyway uh kobe uh stabs laura because he says hey if you're dead then

[53:23] she can't care about killing us to make you lonely anymore stabs laura but not very well

[53:27] because she runs away and it doesn't seem to affect her that much yeah and it is that is

[53:31] 100 the one twist in the movie that i kind of liked the idea that a guy realizes that he is

[53:38] being spooked and that he is the next on the list to die so he's like i despite the fact that i have

[53:46] feelings for this woman i care about my life more so i have to kill her and i wish that they had

[53:53] like played that up a little bit more like they played up the tension of this guy's like almost

[53:58] coen brothers-esque inept murdering of his friend but yeah like a like a desperation but i mean i

[54:05] agree that i there's a i feel like there's a seed of an interesting idea in this movie in there in

[54:12] the villain the evil spirit wanting the heroine not dead but lonely i think that's kind of

[54:20] interesting and if they didn't tie it to facebook in such a stupid way it could have been like an

[54:26] intriguing horror premise and i like yeah the guy being like well can't make you lonely if you're

[54:32] dead so yeah true i mean isn't death the ultimate loneliness uh sure i guess i don't know i haven't

[54:40] thought about that much uh should i unless you go to heaven i mean don't worry about it uh laura

[54:46] manages to eventually find herself to the abandoned factory where marion killed herself

[54:49] or where uh where marina killed herself not marion i'm sorry where marina died uh she gets a frantic

[54:54] call from her mom who as we can see from all sorts of spooky cgi video manipulation effects

[55:00] is being bedeviled by Marina.

[55:02] I like the idea that only now she's like,

[55:07] oh, right, I have a mom.

[55:08] And moms love Facebook.

[55:12] They do.

[55:14] She's always commenting on the Garfield posts.

[55:17] Oh, no.

[55:18] Her doctor boyfriend shows up.

[55:22] Kobe stabs him in the neck through the back of the neck,

[55:24] which is pretty impressive.

[55:25] Yeah.

[55:25] And he's about to kill Laura,

[55:27] but CGI wasps swarm around him and kill him

[55:30] and laura's like what do you want from me and marina's ghost as a little girl comes up and

[55:34] says i want to be best friends forever and laura finds marina's laptop and body and the laptop is

[55:41] almost beckoning her and uh-oh suddenly she's looking in a mirror in the forest and a ghost

[55:46] jumps at her cut to she's back at college wait who's that creepy sweat who did sweatshirt figure

[55:52] sitting off to her side being a creepy weirdo it's laura but now her facebook page is just

[55:57] la space aura like marina's page and she's the new she has been possessed and she is the new

[56:05] lonely demon okay marina got her revenge or is it the kind of thing where marina is now doomed

[56:10] to live inside of laura's body and they've got a like it's like an all of me type situation okay

[56:14] uh so what i can't figure out is is marina in is she possessing her body and she is now marina

[56:24] just in a different body or has laura been turned into a friendless uh weirdo like marina and like

[56:34] is is the movie saying she is now doomed to have no friends and be into like goth stuff

[56:40] i mean that's great that's that's the great thing about art is it's really up to you to

[56:45] interpret that oh cool i never thought that uh art you say should i check this out yeah yeah

[56:50] just google art see what comes up you know what google deviant art i think you'll like that stuff

[56:55] that reminds me of the time when uh i was home from college and i had some friends over and my

[57:00] little brother came down and he's like hey guys do you like art and we were like uh yeah i guess

[57:07] and he pulled out his glass weed pipe and he's like oh that's art

[57:12] oh man it took me like my brain just couldn't process exactly what was happening i mean was

[57:23] he high was that what it was uh i mean probably although that's the uh you should have said

[57:29] actually that's an example of craft a very different thing but related thanks little

[57:34] brother anyway guys let's get back to what we were doing a playing duck hunt i assume

[57:37] yep uh why did why i thought that like destroying the mirror or whatever was gonna

[57:46] save laura but she didn't destroy the mirror like why didn't she just why didn't she destroy it

[57:51] guys she was already under the spell of marina at that point and also at that point laura has

[57:56] no friends on facebook her other friends are dead and her mom so she might be like you know what

[58:00] all cards on the table before i did not need marina's friendship i had plenty of friends i

[58:06] was friend rich but now at the bottom of the barrel i can't afford to be so choosy she's got

[58:11] real leverage over me so you know what yes marina we will be friends but i'm being honest it's only

[58:16] because you have cut me off from all other sources of friendship so all cards on the table do you

[58:21] still want my friendship knowing that i'm only giving it to you out of desperation and marina's

[58:26] like uh yeah that was the point dude i'll take whatever friendship i could get i don't care

[58:31] and there was like all right as long as we're okay with each other we understand this we know

[58:34] that our friendship is based on a foundation of me being an outcast because of you and marina's like

[58:40] yeah outcast let's do let's be a rap duo like this kind of crazy girl and a ghost let's do it and

[58:45] laura's like uh i don't know but a month later laura's like yeah let's try it out sure they put

[58:51] out their first their first album you be a ghost if you with is just the letter u and b is the

[58:55] letter b and it's a huge hit it's a huge hit not just because of the novelty of a college age girl

[59:02] and her ghost friend putting out a rap,

[59:04] but because the beats are super tight

[59:06] and her language, it just opens up a new world.

[59:09] She's working with rhymes in a way

[59:10] that people just haven't done before.

[59:12] She packs them in so tightly,

[59:13] but then she'll like extend what she's doing

[59:16] into almost a trance vibe.

[59:17] And so it really makes a mark in the hip hop world.

[59:20] And suddenly Laura and Marina or Lorena

[59:23] as they perform under, that's their outcast type name.

[59:26] I mean, they have their other personas.

[59:28] Marina is also called like, it's called like ghost 45

[59:31] and and that's and laura's rap name is like you know it's like you know girl gone or something

[59:37] like that but girl is spelled g-u-r-l so they're just blazing up the charts and it's like yeah we

[59:43] finally found our place and it's ironic and marina killing all of laura's friends gives her a ton of

[59:48] street cred a ton of street cred she's been there she's lived that life she's got blood on her hands

[59:52] so when she raps about killing people it's for real like people know she's walked the walk she's

[59:57] from that and so it really put brings them together in a way they never thought before

[1:00:02] and eventually you know they have their arguments they split up for a little bit and they come back

[1:00:06] together they have their solo projects and experimental stuff uh marina gets a little

[1:00:10] too involved in conservative politics in a way that people has people worried about her sanity

[1:00:14] for a little bit yeah then she comes back and they're doing you know it's been a while since

[1:00:18] they performed and they're like but they're still friends they're like we haven't toured together in

[1:00:21] a long time let's do it are our fans still out there it's been years yeah there's only one way

[1:00:25] to give it a shot and the tour is a huge success a huge hit it's amazing and they're all it's a

[1:00:31] global tour they're touring for like two years straight and people are so excited they're like

[1:00:35] we forgot we needed this we forgot we needed this and at the end of the final tour they're on stage

[1:00:39] just playing the hits just i mean the hits and also like sometimes they'll just kind of freestyle

[1:00:45] oh yeah experiment and the audience loves like paul simon yeah exactly because they're like you

[1:00:50] guys skills haven't missed a beat and you've evolved with the times what you're doing now

[1:00:54] is so different

[1:00:55] from what you did

[1:00:55] when you started

[1:00:55] but there's still

[1:00:56] a continuity of style

[1:00:57] and voice

[1:00:58] and at the end

[1:00:59] of the concert

[1:01:00] Laura turns to Marina

[1:01:01] and goes

[1:01:02] Marina

[1:01:02] we've had our up times

[1:01:03] we've had our down times

[1:01:04] but you know what

[1:01:05] you are my friend

[1:01:07] and you're my best friend

[1:01:08] thank you

[1:01:09] and Marina is so

[1:01:10] overjoyed

[1:01:11] that she ascends to heaven

[1:01:12] in what becomes

[1:01:13] the most viral video

[1:01:14] in the history

[1:01:15] of online videos

[1:01:16] and that's the end

[1:01:18] of a beautiful career

[1:01:19] so you're saying

[1:01:19] that this movie

[1:01:20] actually had a happy ending

[1:01:21] I mean if you

[1:01:22] tack on my stuff

[1:01:23] then yes okay yeah that's great uh elliot demonstrated his understanding of rap stuff

[1:01:31] really well and also uh and uh marina says thank you for accepting my friend request and laura's

[1:01:39] like i'll always accept your friend requests because that's what friends do and then yeah

[1:01:43] sends to heaven she came down from heaven for that last part and then she ascends back up i mean that

[1:01:47] Yeah, that scene got a little bulky, but it's okay.

[1:01:51] It's good.

[1:01:51] Well, I realized after the fact that I should try to tie in the title of the movie.

[1:01:56] Yeah.

[1:01:57] So, guys, is this a good, great movie, an amazing, bad movie, or a slinky, slonky movie?

[1:02:04] Oh, God.

[1:02:04] Our categories are slinky, slonky, right?

[1:02:08] Is this movie totally scarifying?

[1:02:11] Uh-huh.

[1:02:12] Is it totally snorifying?

[1:02:13] Sure.

[1:02:13] Or is it frighteningly funny?

[1:02:15] Okay.

[1:02:17] uh which which one is the closest uh equivalent to slinky slonky i guess

[1:02:24] i mean to be fair dan the best way to describe the movie is slinky slonky

[1:02:30] all right well i guess three slinky slonkies then okay so guys if slinky

[1:02:35] slonky is not an option thanks dan uh what do you say i say snorifying

[1:02:39] uh i say this is between snorifying and frighteningly funny for me like i it's not that

[1:02:48] great um it does but it doesn't it doesn't drag that much like it goes along pretty fast and i

[1:02:55] find it hilarious that it's so rooted in facebook a thing that young people as i understand don't

[1:03:01] actually really use that much anymore and they're all about the instagram now they've really tied

[1:03:06] this into this like it's it's just a fad horror movie and i find those kind of hilarious whenever

[1:03:12] the horror tries to be like just tap into like what's cool and misses it so completely yeah i

[1:03:21] mean the thing that keeps it from being frighteningly funny for me is the i don't know why

[1:03:27] it bugs me but the idea of the i know there's like demons and magic and shit involved but the idea

[1:03:33] that like the villain in the movie is this poor woman who this poor girl who's been like abused

[1:03:40] and doesn't have friends and is this like i don't know artistically talented goth character

[1:03:46] who then kills herself is like like fuck that dude um so i'm gonna say snorifying yeah it's

[1:03:55] one of these movies where the heroes give you very little to root for them other than the fact

[1:04:00] that they are attractive and already happy yeah and and the villain is as you're saying someone

[1:04:06] who has really life has been so unkind to them yeah and they they have so much to give the world

[1:04:12] in the in the form of their art like she is if it would be another thing if she was really

[1:04:16] untalented almost or it's like the character they're looking at her animations are like she's

[1:04:20] terrible these are bad but uh it's it's a weird movie for i feel like especially for it reminds

[1:04:26] me of in green lantern where they're like ryan reynolds is a totally buff super hot fighter

[1:04:32] pilot and the bad guy he's gonna beat up on is a nerd in a wheelchair where it was like hold on a

[1:04:37] second what what is this movie telling me it feels like with this too where it's like the fan the

[1:04:42] people who are gonna watch horror movies are often the people who would sympathize more i'm guessing

[1:04:47] with marina than with laura but maybe i'm wrong about that yeah all right uh so mixed let's say

[1:04:57] okay so dan's like so let's say frighteningly funny wait no but we didn't say that

[1:05:03] all right this one is about some books

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[1:06:00] all right the secret is out i open mike eagle officially had a wrestling match

[1:06:12] and on the next tyson fights i'm talking all about it from the rap battles that got us started

[1:06:16] and to how i hurt myself in ways i didn't know i could that day and the day before

[1:06:30] I got so many texts from people who really care about me who were like, please don't break your neck.

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[1:06:44] Okay, so we've come, we've closed the casket on that one.

[1:06:50] Let's open a new casket for a new thing.

[1:06:53] Yeah, well, Elliot, you had some promotions you wanted to do.

[1:06:59] i just wanted to yeah no go on what were you gonna say were you gonna set them up yeah i'm

[1:07:05] just setting you up man that's all it is i was just like teeing up the ball and you were like

[1:07:09] i'm trying on the brakes i'm trying to think of like a great book like i put it by somebody i put

[1:07:14] a t ball i put a ball on a t and you like balked you're like but then you said no then you said uh

[1:07:21] as if you had another thing to say so i was like oh well dan's using a space filler uh sound like

[1:07:27] and usually people do that to fill space between sentences or words so let's see what's coming up

[1:07:32] next let's see what hot new ideas coming out of dan's mouth oh nothing oh great okay thanks

[1:07:38] so let me just promote we've got a couple live shows coming up as we've mentioned on this show

[1:07:44] before november 3rd coming up very soon after this episode comes out at earlham college in

[1:07:49] richmond indiana saturday november 3rd at 7 30 p.m as part of the earlham artists and lecture series

[1:07:54] the flop house is going to be there we're talking about jurassic world fallen kingdom right oh yeah

[1:07:59] we're gonna that kingdom if that kingdom's already fallen down we're gonna kick it while it's down

[1:08:03] oh oh yeah beware of dinos then on january 26th 2019 that's right the future on saturday

[1:08:13] january 26th we're gonna be in wisconsin that's right we don't care that it's winter in wisconsin

[1:08:18] we're gonna be there anyway we're gonna brave the cold jesus christ i didn't even think about that

[1:08:22] what oh it's the thing everyone mentions to me when i mention the show to them they go you can

[1:08:26] go to wisconsin in january and i'm like yeah we don't give a shit we'll deal with anything for

[1:08:30] our fans yeah for our fans we would walk through hellfire we'd walk through blizzard fire and so

[1:08:35] so brave of you to say yeah uh and so saturday january 26th january 26th at the university of

[1:08:43] wisconsin madison at the wisconsin union theater we're gonna be there it's gonna be great it's

[1:08:47] It's going to be fantastic, guys.

[1:08:48] Dan, even though it'll be cold, you can eat a lot of cheese curds, and it'll make you feel good.

[1:08:53] I don't think that's what that's doing.

[1:08:54] And probably bloated.

[1:08:55] I mean, to be fair, if the dairy that sells ice cream at the University of Swanson is open, we should go to that.

[1:09:03] They make great ice cream there.

[1:09:04] Okay.

[1:09:05] All right.

[1:09:06] So I hope it's open.

[1:09:08] Cold outside, cold inside.

[1:09:14] There's something that Sammy started saying when he gets into his bath on particularly hot days, which we have a lot of here in sunny L.A.

[1:09:20] He'll get in and go, ah, a nice hot bath on a nice hot day.

[1:09:24] Is your son an elderly man?

[1:09:28] There's one time once when Danielle and I were having lunch at a diner and I got soup before my food.

[1:09:37] And I was like, ah, it's nice to have a nice cup of soup before food.

[1:09:39] And she was like, you just sounded like the oldest man in the world.

[1:09:44] Uh, but guys, I'm not here just to talk about flop house.

[1:09:46] I'm also here to talk about the children's book event of the century.

[1:09:50] I'm not in the 21st century.

[1:09:51] It's only been a few years.

[1:09:51] Uh, horse meets dog.

[1:09:53] That's right.

[1:09:54] My kid's book with Tim Miller, my first ever kid's book.

[1:09:56] It's about a horse that meets a dog.

[1:09:57] It's called horse meets dog.

[1:09:58] Comes out October 30th, right after this, this episode comes out, right, Dan?

[1:10:02] Yes.

[1:10:03] Yeah, Dan.

[1:10:04] So pick it up or pre-order it at your local bookstore.

[1:10:07] Uh, I'm going to be doing some horse meets dog events that I'm going to tell you about

[1:10:11] now.

[1:10:11] I'm going to be touring for a few days all over the country.

[1:10:14] Mostly school visits, but I'll be doing a few store appearances.

[1:10:16] For instance, Wednesday, November 7th at 4 p.m., I'll be at Green Bean Books in Portland, Oregon.

[1:10:22] That's Wednesday, November 7th at Green Bean Books.

[1:10:24] On Thursday, November 8th, the next day, I'm going to be at A Great Good Place for Books in beautiful Oakland, California at 7 p.m.

[1:10:31] I believe it might even be a pizza party.

[1:10:33] So that's – I'm in Oregon on November 7th.

[1:10:36] I'm in Oakland November 8th.

[1:10:38] And then Sunday, November 11th at Skylight Books in L.A., I'll be having what is for me the, like, hometown launch event for Horse Meets Dog.

[1:10:46] That's at 3 p.m. on Sunday, November 11th.

[1:10:47] Come on down to Skylight Books.

[1:10:49] It's a great store, and I'm going to try to make it so that we have cookies there.

[1:10:52] Wow, 3 p.m.

[1:10:54] You're going to get fucking raw, I bet, right?

[1:10:56] Oh, yeah.

[1:10:57] That's when I get a little blue.

[1:10:58] Yeah, the 3 p.m. show.

[1:10:59] No, just kidding.

[1:11:01] These are all-ages events.

[1:11:02] It's a kid's book.

[1:11:03] Uh-huh.

[1:11:04] Okay.

[1:11:06] So don't come in expecting Elliot to do his like super gross material.

[1:11:11] Yeah, he's not going to do his seven words you can't say on television.

[1:11:13] Yeah, and I'm not going to do my joke about – well, there's a joke I used to tell that was very vulgar but I felt was constructed very well.

[1:11:22] And a former coworker of mine ruined it by deliberately saying it wrong over and over again to the point where I can never say it again or even hear it.

[1:11:31] That co-worker was a difficult human being, but I always enjoyed that gag when he ruined your joke.

[1:11:37] Yeah, you would go, again, again, do it more.

[1:11:40] Make him sadder.

[1:11:41] And I'd be like, Dan, but I thought we were friends.

[1:11:44] You accepted my friend request, and you're like, you're not invited to my birthday, and I killed all your other friends.

[1:11:48] I'm a ghost now, guys.

[1:11:51] Could you imagine if there's one person who thought they were really close to Laura, and Marina is just not trying to kill them, and they're like, come on, Laura.

[1:12:01] I thought we were really good friends.

[1:12:02] These are the jokes that should have been in the movie.

[1:12:05] Yeah, it should have been.

[1:12:06] There's someone who's like,

[1:12:07] Laura, you were the maid of honor at my wedding,

[1:12:12] but this demon is not trying to kill me.

[1:12:14] Are we not that close?

[1:12:15] And Laura's like, people drift apart.

[1:12:17] I'm sorry, Bethany.

[1:12:18] We're just not the close friends we were anymore.

[1:12:20] But maybe Laura's trying to save Bethany's life, you know?

[1:12:24] Oh, good point.

[1:12:26] I like it.

[1:12:27] Okay.

[1:12:27] We'll save it for friend request two.

[1:12:31] requested again okay let's move on to letters before elliot says something again and this

[1:12:37] first letter is from matthias hey guys what's that sound it sounds like elliot's saying something

[1:12:43] again and what he's saying is that we're all friends in the end friends to the end friends

[1:12:48] around the band so please won't you accept my request at your best open your chest and let

[1:12:55] me into your heart as your friend let's never part till the end get my request and be friends

[1:13:03] with the flop house letters thank you for that letter song uh so this is from matthias last name

[1:13:09] withheld who writes dear floopers he says he intended to write floppers but his phone keyboard

[1:13:15] had a weird hiccup thanks for telling us uh it certainly took less time than changing it manually

[1:13:22] i'm currently listening my way through the back catalog and the intervals between new episodes

[1:13:27] so i'm getting a full dose of flop energy and being german one reoccurring element i kept

[1:13:33] noticing is stewart's excellent grasp of the german language and german pop culture

[1:13:37] hell yeah stewart not only were you able to casually drop the original name of the three

[1:13:41] penny opera but you even offhandedly referred to the german hip-hop group

[1:13:46] die kind die skin dude okay who i don't think is an internationally well known i'm sure you've

[1:13:53] mentioned before but do you speak the language or is this a just a range of coincidences i'm more

[1:13:57] primed to notice and as a question to the whole gang are there german movies you particularly

[1:14:01] enjoy to make it a bit harder i'm going to exclude the smash hits such as das boot

[1:14:06] and lives of others or in order to preempt elliot's answer metropolis and m greetings

[1:14:12] from a beautiful autumnal southern germany matthias

[1:14:15] german film uh yeah and also a question for stewart yeah let me uh jump right in here and

[1:14:22] answer some shit uh yeah i uh i i studied german language in school and then i spent six months

[1:14:32] uh in school i spent a semester studying in uh mainly marburg berlin and uh wien

[1:14:40] uh so yeah and i won't shut up about it right guys stewart is always telling us about his time

[1:14:48] in germany it's exhausting i never really liked bread or broat until i had some hearty german

[1:14:57] schwarzbrot he's always he's always like excuse me or should i say and schulte gun thanks guys

[1:15:05] in schuligen z but it's uh yeah but stewart yeah he he often tells legends about his time in germany

[1:15:11] where uh i believe you were what what did they call you over there uh dust vice knight the white

[1:15:17] knight or something like that uh you all you would fight dragons and things i ate dragons and things

[1:15:23] i was a real sigfried type character sigfried from soul caliber not the nibling slide oh and

[1:15:31] Not Siegfried from Siegfried and Roy?

[1:15:32] Well, I mean, kind of in between that, to be honest with you.

[1:15:35] So German movies, huh?

[1:15:39] Stuart, what kind of German movies do you like?

[1:15:40] I mean, this was an Academy Award winner, but I like Die Blechtrommel, the tin drum.

[1:15:48] I also like the novel.

[1:15:50] Let me see.

[1:15:53] I feel like I've definitely seen some German horror movies that I've liked.

[1:15:57] uh i like downfall was a german movie right with the bruno ganz hitler performance that has been

[1:16:04] much very much so much memed uh it's a crazy thing that it is it is such an intense moment

[1:16:10] in a very intense movie about in a very intense subject and it's like meme it and it works so

[1:16:15] well as a meme yeah yeah what i mean that scene alone is like the idea of seeing an actor having

[1:16:22] to work through that, and I don't know.

[1:16:24] Pretty great.

[1:16:24] Yeah, Dan, what were you going to say?

[1:16:27] Well, we actually brought it up earlier

[1:16:30] in the episode. I really

[1:16:32] like The Testament of Dr. Mabuse.

[1:16:33] That's a

[1:16:36] very good film.

[1:16:38] I actually don't remember a lot

[1:16:40] about it. I just remember loving it a lot, and

[1:16:42] I remember the scene where they're

[1:16:44] trapped in a room with a bomb, and they

[1:16:46] flood it to

[1:16:47] help themselves escape, and it's

[1:16:50] very tense scene that you just sort of like in a way that people i think who aren't familiar with

[1:16:55] older movies wouldn't expect out of an older film um but i also i mean i just like a lot of german

[1:17:01] expressionist films i i'm some of them i like better in theory than practice like everyone

[1:17:06] talks about the cabinet of dr calgary like and i saw like pictures of sets and cabinet of dr

[1:17:11] calgary i'm like this movie must be the greatest movie ever and then i saw it i'm just like okay

[1:17:16] it's kind of boring like i probably got off keep that cabinet closed better just it's fine to just

[1:17:22] see pictures of the sets and and and think about the movie but you thought it was the cabinet of

[1:17:27] dr calamari and you were just thinking about all that delicious squid yeah uh i think you

[1:17:32] pronounced that wrong it's got a mod yeah the cabinet dr calamar that's yeah in in new jersey

[1:17:38] they say the cabinet dr caligari but cabinet of dr gabagool now there's a movie that i would see

[1:17:46] actually i i i feel differently actually i love gabagool i like the cabinet dr caligari but i

[1:17:53] feel that way actually about nosferatu i've always found nosferatu to be a boring movie

[1:17:57] but the images that the still image is really scary i'm going to mention uh to get something

[1:18:01] a little more modern here because everyone expects me to say an old one i really liked

[1:18:04] goodbye lenin when that came out about uh family in east germany when the wall is coming down

[1:18:10] where the kids try to kind of not make make it so their mother does not know that east germany

[1:18:17] is essentially collapsing and uh as a way of making her feel better towards the end of her

[1:18:21] life uh and i liked that movie and i felt like it seemed not that i experienced that moment in

[1:18:26] person i was just a kid when it happened i was not living in germany but it felt like it captured

[1:18:30] the feeling of like oh like this something really amazing is happening and life is changing in a way

[1:18:36] that seems like it's going to be much better obviously life is messy but i thought it really

[1:18:40] captured that moment really nicely okay well moving on uh this next letter is from j elliot

[1:18:46] last name withheld who writes he has a secret identity maybe you can guess from the middle name

[1:18:52] he writes hello my sweet just kidding hello my sweet boys i got sober about 10 years ago

[1:18:59] Congratulations.

[1:18:59] Yes, and during the recovery process,

[1:19:02] I met some truly amazing people

[1:19:03] for whom alcoholism slash addiction

[1:19:06] turned out to be a fatal condition.

[1:19:08] After living through the deaths of these friends,

[1:19:10] I found myself completely humorless

[1:19:12] when it came to jokes about

[1:19:13] or a glib handling of drunks, addicts,

[1:19:15] or recovery in general.

[1:19:17] So, sorry for large chunks of this podcast.

[1:19:19] I had never before lost my sense of humor

[1:19:22] about any subject,

[1:19:23] and until it happened to me,

[1:19:25] I never thought it could happen to me.

[1:19:26] So, I guess my question is,

[1:19:27] Has anything similar ever happened to you?

[1:19:29] Are there any subjects you just can't laugh about anymore?

[1:19:32] Have you ever lost respect for an artist or their work

[1:19:35] due to their tone-deaf handling of a subject you are sensitive to?

[1:19:37] Yours in Floppitude, J. Elliot, last name withheld.

[1:19:40] Sensitive question.

[1:19:44] I mean, we end up talking about stuff like this kind of regularly, I feel.

[1:19:48] I mean, both on the show and also, I mean,

[1:19:51] I find myself talking about it a lot in just in life at the bar.

[1:19:57] sorry to bring up bars you're a real whoopi goldberg in uh in next generation type who's

[1:20:04] always talking to people about what's going on yeah guy nan's like uh so how do you separate

[1:20:08] art from the artist uh sorry dan got nervous and was looking at our oh yeah yeah i was just

[1:20:18] Okay. Um, I mean, yeah, there's definitely stuff. Uh, I don't know. Lately, uh, lately I've, I get bothered more and more when, uh, comedies just lazily, uh, like fall back because, because people have become slightly more enlightened and realize that certain subjects are not okay to make fun of.

[1:20:45] it seems like they uh some comedians and comedy writers fall back on classism more often than i'd

[1:20:52] like and it kind of bugs me because like just doing like a poor southern accent is not that

[1:20:59] that alone is not a joke and uh i don't know i feel like classism sometimes fall it just it seems

[1:21:06] like it's still an okay thing to make jokes about and uh like like being poor is a choice or

[1:21:12] something and that that bums me out yeah i don't have anything that comes from like the same sort

[1:21:18] of tragic place that uh the letter writer is talking about but i do feel like i have never

[1:21:25] particularly liked when uh comedy is put uh guys in drag and like the joke is just like

[1:21:34] that they're men wearing women's clothes or they're like men trying to be ladies like that

[1:21:40] has never been

[1:21:42] particularly funny to me

[1:21:43] even before I became

[1:21:46] slightly more enlightened than I was

[1:21:48] as a young person but like now

[1:21:50] with sort of

[1:21:52] trans issues and like the idea

[1:21:54] of gender spectrums like

[1:21:55] I find it even more off-putting

[1:21:58] like to just

[1:21:59] posit that as a joke

[1:22:01] like oh a guy's in

[1:22:03] a woman's clothes

[1:22:06] you know

[1:22:06] yeah

[1:22:09] I think there's something about when a TV show or a movie kills someone as a joke, like if a death is kind of tossed off very casually, that can work in the right type of thing, but it happens too much.

[1:22:24] And I think in a weird way, it's like just mainly just growing up, but becoming a parent, it's like, oh, I see how easy it is for people to get hurt, and there's people that I really worry about all the time.

[1:22:38] And so it's hard for me to watch something and not be like, who's the person that this is happening to?

[1:22:42] There was a – this is not a movie or TV show, but there was a meme that was going around recently, which was just people retweeting the headline Neanderthal child was – Bones say Neanderthal child was devoured by a giant bird or something like that.

[1:22:55] And the meme was literally just people retweeting that headline, and people would be commenting and making jokes off of it.

[1:23:01] And I was like, I mean even if this happened thousands of years ago, this is still a joke about a child dying.

[1:23:06] Like this is – and not like a fictional child, which would be bad enough, but like a real human – like a Neanderthal, but a real human of a sort, like was a child and was – died at some point and was either eaten by a bird or killed by a bird.

[1:23:22] And it was like I don't – I just don't see where – like I don't see where the joke is.

[1:23:26] And it's like we had that – recently we were doing a pretty harsh takedown of true crime stories of podcasts.

[1:23:33] It's a little bit of that where it's like it's hard for me not to put myself in the position of the person who cares about this person that this thing happened to, even if it's like an extra in it.

[1:23:43] Like I was reading a comic book recently where the main character was just kind of like in a funny way, just like casually murdering bystanders because they're an assassin.

[1:23:51] I was like, this makes my tummy hurt.

[1:23:53] I don't like this.

[1:23:53] Like this is not something that I that I'm enjoying.

[1:23:57] And though we didn't particularly touch on examples of artists that we admire who have bad takes on things, since we kind of went vague, one of the things that I, over the last few years, only got made aware of is the amount of TERFs, basically, like trans-exclusionary radical feminists within the British comedy community.

[1:24:24] and there's a lot of british comedy that i like and it is a little distressing that uh whether

[1:24:30] whether or not it's specific takes from specific artists or it's just that i now associate a lot

[1:24:38] of those uh that scene with that those attitudes it makes it kind of hard for me to be excited and

[1:24:44] seek out like british comedy shows oh yeah i mean the best thing you can do if you want to enjoy any

[1:24:50] sort of comedy is never learn anything about the people who make it yeah and anything or listen to

[1:24:55] them outside of the work they're doing and if and then hopefully inside the work they won't say

[1:24:59] things you don't like but what are you gonna do i would say uh this is not exactly answering the

[1:25:03] question but like i go back and forth a lot with quentin tarantino where it's like i'm a fan of so

[1:25:08] so much of his work but there's so much problematic stuff even in movies that i like like i like

[1:25:13] inglorious bastards but there's parts of it where i'm like this is ragingly insensitive to the

[1:25:19] actual thing that you're handling yeah and i have to tell myself this is a movie about movies this

[1:25:23] is not a movie about people or real history or real life because there's there's a bunch of parts

[1:25:28] where in that movie where quentin tarantino is taking on the mantle of jewish revenge against

[1:25:33] the nazis and it's like this is a more complicated situation than i think you're going to be able to

[1:25:37] handle in this movie quentin like i know that you probably mean well but this is this there's a lot

[1:25:45] going on here that you are stirring up that is not doesn't fit what you're doing you know doesn't

[1:25:50] doesn't work right but i just have i have to tell myself like he is working with tropes and he's not

[1:25:56] really thinking too deeply beyond that and at the same time i can understand people that uh are put

[1:26:01] off by that insensitivity and cannot accept it and will not appreciate him as an artist oh yeah i

[1:26:07] mean there's there is no artist that i feel so passionately that they're amazing that if someone

[1:26:13] was like there's a thing in that movie that just i i can't handle it because of this other thing

[1:26:18] i there's no artist where i'd be like well you're wrong change the way you feel about things like

[1:26:22] this is what are you missing from your life it's the same way there was a time once and this is

[1:26:27] not exactly the same thing where we did a flop house live show and i mentioned at one point that

[1:26:31] i had not seen any episodes of community and the audience booed me and it was like it was like

[1:26:36] dudes if you are so obsessed with this thing that you can't even handle that i haven't gotten around

[1:26:42] to seeing it that i didn't even say i didn't like it i can't say i didn't like it because i've never

[1:26:45] seen it if it like then that's then that's not my problem i'm really i'm really glad that i didn't

[1:26:50] get to say i didn't like community yeah it would have torn me to pieces oh it would have been like

[1:26:55] the end of the bacchi you would have just been ripped to shreds and your head paraded around

[1:26:59] the town uh-huh but i would have had a smile on my face they're tearing your body apart and you're

[1:27:06] like worth it i just said i love making hot takes being a witch like talking about a guy who like

[1:27:12] it's harder to enjoy his stuff now dan harman harman yeah like i like all his shows pretty

[1:27:19] much but uh boy he's not a not a good guy when from what i understand and certainly has has had

[1:27:28] a a famous is a famously abrasive person yeah anyway so uh i guess what we're saying is it's

[1:27:35] There's a certain part of me that always feels like it is up to a specific person to understand what is okay with them and what's not okay with them.

[1:27:43] Nobody can tell you you need to be okay with this thing.

[1:27:47] I think that's an important part of being a responsible appreciator of pop culture and media is to hold it up to some kind of standard and to determine what your standards are.

[1:27:57] Or if you're Dan, you call them Dandards.

[1:28:05] Uh, yeah.

[1:28:05] Dandard?

[1:28:06] Because I inflict my personal brand on the English language as often as possible.

[1:28:11] Yeah, or as you call it, your personal Dan.

[1:28:14] It's very confusing because he'll be like, oh, yeah, I had to get a birthday present or birthday and present.

[1:28:20] So I went to the McCoy store toy store and I'm like, just use the same words we all use, Dan.

[1:28:25] It's very confusing.

[1:28:27] Look, you're talking about it.

[1:28:30] Yeah, that's true.

[1:28:32] Yeah, at least we're talking about it.

[1:28:33] He's like, I need to get some fried chicken, so I went to McCoy Rogers.

[1:28:36] Wait, okay, let me do the math.

[1:28:37] Oh, Roy Rogers.

[1:28:38] Okay, sure.

[1:28:39] It's like everything is Cockney rhyming slang with Dan.

[1:28:41] It's just these two words.

[1:28:42] Wasn't that a bit on Friends where Joey kept calling his Adam's apple a Joey's apple?

[1:28:49] You got me, friends.

[1:28:54] Oh, boy.

[1:28:55] It's not a bad joke.

[1:28:56] One last letter that's from Neil, last name with hell.

[1:29:02] oh i see a wry smile on your lips hi flop stars i've been really struggling with my belly flops

[1:29:09] lately i'm mostly over rotating into a traditional dive posture but occasionally

[1:29:13] landing feet first uh-huh wondering if you have any advice for splash maximization

[1:29:17] uh you know i find that when you're belly flopping just just don't think about it too much

[1:29:24] no okay that's how it works uh say that again dan but more like a song that's how it works

[1:29:31] okay oh classic uh yeah i guess i guess what dan's saying which i would agree with is when

[1:29:35] it comes to belly flops uh gravity is your friend don't fight it your body's gonna want to fight it

[1:29:40] because the feeling of falling through space is one that your body is not crazy about because

[1:29:46] evolutionarily in terms of man's ancient history it would mean you were about to plummet to your

[1:29:50] death but you want it to happen so you got to fight that instinct and really give yourself

[1:29:54] over to gravity elliot's uh paraphrasing the main monologue from the movie gravity everybody

[1:30:01] and i would say uh you know i i don't i don't want to surprise anybody hold on to your hats

[1:30:08] but uh when i'm trying to get maximum splash i usually uh i usually opt for a can opener

[1:30:15] instead of a belly flop i know it's crazy right i just feel like uh i get a little more splash zone

[1:30:20] all right so i hope that helps you with that totally uh sincere non-ironic question

[1:30:26] take that letter writer uh hey guys this is the time of the podcast where we usually recommend

[1:30:33] movies that we liked movies that probably you should watch instead of the one that we watched

[1:30:37] um i got one uh-huh i saw rip it and rip it dan okay i will grip it and then subsequently i will

[1:30:47] rip it i'm not a fan of that phrase and i've never fully understood what it means i don't know i just

[1:30:52] no i don't like it but in a different way then i've never really liked kick the tires light the

[1:30:56] fires that's another one i'm not a fan of no but not for the same reason okay stop burning all

[1:31:01] those tires it's bad for the environment dude exactly but on the other hand bagging and tag

[1:31:06] it which should be horrifying to me i'm like all right okay you put your groceries in a bag and

[1:31:11] then you slap a tag on it yeah yep to be so to know which house it's going to be delivered to

[1:31:16] um i've almost forgotten what movie i was going to talk about after all you can do it now uh it's

[1:31:23] called hold the dark hold the dark it's a netflix movie that's the spider-man one what spider-man

[1:31:31] movie yeah it was a movie that was acquired by netflix okay okay i thought it wasn't developed

[1:31:37] by netflix it was acquired well i don't fucking know man okay one or the other i love i love the

[1:31:44] the fourth degree that uh that stewart's giving you right now just uh one more thing it's a

[1:31:49] netflix movie one way or the other uh what um so like so uh let me so they caught this flick in a

[1:31:57] net oh that makes sense that makes sense uh so hold the dark it stars jeffrey wright it stars

[1:32:04] jeffrey wright i saw it in the theaters because i like the guy so the director jeremy solnay so

[1:32:10] much that i was like who cares if i can see this for free at home i'm gonna go out to the movie

[1:32:15] theaters i'm gonna pay my money i'm gonna see it on a big screen it's the same guy who made

[1:32:19] blue ruin and green room and murder party and murder party yeah that's another great one actually

[1:32:24] uh that people forget about uh and it's about like you just now it's about jeffrey wright is a writer

[1:32:32] he has been called to a remote town in alaska by a mother who has had her child taken by wolves

[1:32:41] and she wants him to kill the wolf that took the child and there's a lot more to the story than

[1:32:47] that but i will not ruin any of the the actual developments that's just the setup uh and it

[1:32:54] contains a sequence in the middle that is one of the most harrowing sequences i think i've seen in

[1:33:01] movie and it it made me feel like viscerally like i was in the action in a way that was very

[1:33:08] disquieting and um and he's he's a director who both i mean sony sony air sony a seems to like

[1:33:17] he he both has he makes violent movies and he makes the violence so tense and unpalatable and

[1:33:26] gross uh that and like and and like thoughtless like it feels like like it it feels like such a

[1:33:36] pointless thing even if there is some catharsis at the end which question mark as to whether or

[1:33:41] not this movie gives it to you yeah i would say i was gonna say um this movie has gotten

[1:33:46] i think slightly worse reviews than either of his preceding uh films that were because

[1:33:53] is and he's paired with macon blair who was the star of some of his other movies and also the

[1:34:00] writer of his like writing partner yeah uh and i i would say that this movie for me i enjoyed it

[1:34:07] about as much as the other like i really liked it but i could i can see where people are coming

[1:34:13] from in that like there's a lot less humor in this movie than the previous couple of films and

[1:34:19] certainly less than murder party which has a lot of humor in it um and it doesn't give you

[1:34:24] a lot of catharsis at the end of this the film it it's also it's a slower burn yeah than the

[1:34:30] other movies it takes its time in a way the other move the other movies are not super speedy but i

[1:34:37] feel like they move at a at a more at a brisker pace yeah that's actually i mean i haven't finished

[1:34:41] the movie yet and one of the things i'm struggling with with it is that it's moving a little slowly

[1:34:45] for me oh i thought maybe i just need to give myself up to it i found it hypnotic in that way

[1:34:49] and probably it helped that i saw it in the theater where you can give yourself full attention

[1:34:54] to something rather than i mean the best way to watch it isn't the way i've been doing it while

[1:34:58] i do my dishes on an ipad yeah with with the kitchen lights could be that that wasn't that

[1:35:02] the direction intended and i uh i'll also give the movie props for featuring featuring a super

[1:35:07] dope tune by a polish black metal band evil feast i guess you didn't you didn't pick that up

[1:35:14] what i give it props for is that jeffrey wright plays a writer which leads me to believe there

[1:35:21] should be a movie where everyone plays jobs based on their names so like jeffrey might be a writer

[1:35:25] jeff bridges would be a bridger someone who makes bridges we got uh yeah we got a rats and burger

[1:35:30] here yeah billy crystal will be uh would be a jeweler so that guy makes burgers out of rats

[1:35:36] yeah dude come on yeah of course all right and uh craig t nelson would be the lead singer of

[1:35:44] the band nelson i thought he was it's him and his brother john t nelson uh kevin bacon would be like

[1:35:53] a pig farmer or a butcher okay all right well anyway that's my you'll probably think about a

[1:35:59] few more before the end of the episode oh you know it and i'll interrupt whatever else we're doing

[1:36:03] uh okay well fictional character jessica fletcher would play a glove maker yeah would make would

[1:36:09] make well i thought a fletcher made arrows oh yeah that's right i'm sorry it uh but it could

[1:36:14] be but someone uh but uh tom baker would be a baker yeah yeah adele would be a computer

[1:36:20] what a different world would be if dude you're getting adele meant that

[1:36:29] adele was going to perform a concert at your house oh man uh so i'm going to continue this

[1:36:36] trend i'm going to recommend another movie from a uh indie auteur director who releases the movie

[1:36:43] on netflix just now uh i'm recommending apostle the new movie by gareth evans uh the director of

[1:36:50] the raid the raid 2 uh and a very stirring uh section of which one was that vhs 2 i think that's

[1:36:59] the one yeah um and it is a uh well when i saw ads for it i kind of assumed it was a movie that

[1:37:07] was made just for me because it's the raid director directing my man dan stevens uh and

[1:37:15] it is a period piece where a man with a troubled past has to go uh rescue his sister who has been

[1:37:21] abducted by an evil cult uh and it basically is kind of like a and there's scenes of extreme

[1:37:29] violence uh and it's kind of like if somebody made a more violent version of the wicker man

[1:37:36] crossed with the silent hill video games so check it out uh and michael sheen's in it too okay

[1:37:43] i love if that's what the poster says oh and michael sheen's in it too

[1:37:49] uh two great recommendations that i will now recommend also a great movie but a different

[1:37:56] kind of movie you guys may remember a few episodes back i recommended the movie tampopo

[1:38:00] directed by juzo itami and recently i saw his first movie which is called the funeral

[1:38:06] and it's a movie that you might call like process drama because it's very much about the process of

[1:38:13] a family planning and pulling off pulling off like it's a heist a family planning and then going

[1:38:19] through a funeral for the grandfather family but it's both very funny at times and very serious

[1:38:25] and sad at times but it's like you're watching it's more like a portrait of a family than anything

[1:38:30] else where you're kind of dipping into the lives of each of the members of the family in ways that

[1:38:34] show you things about them but there's no like big dramatic confrontation at one point you learn one

[1:38:38] of the characters is having an affair and that's something that it just informs everything they do

[1:38:44] from that moment but it's not like leading up to some big reveal where everyone finds out you know

[1:38:49] in the middle of the funeral and it's either hilarious or heart-wrenching or something so not

[1:38:53] a not a plot heavy adventure is what you're saying no yeah this is not a this is not a plot heavy

[1:38:59] quest uh it's not a it's not a roller coaster thrill ride but i found it to be really touch

[1:39:05] alternately really touching and just very interesting to see the family one partly if

[1:39:09] you have any interest in how a traditional japanese funeral is pulled off which is something

[1:39:12] i didn't know anything about that's interesting but it's everyone in is really good and the

[1:39:16] characters are really strongly drawn in their moments and i just i thought it was i really

[1:39:21] enjoyed being able to kind of like experience this with this family and there's a speech that

[1:39:27] the grandmother at the end gives it's her husband who they're having the funeral for that is so like

[1:39:31] like kind of plain

[1:39:34] spokenly emotional and like heart

[1:39:36] rending in a way that is

[1:39:38] a lot of the movie is I guess about

[1:39:39] the kind of forms of

[1:39:42] Japanese ceremonies

[1:39:44] and how the family has to

[1:39:46] keep contorting itself to

[1:39:47] do what is proper and right for a funeral even

[1:39:50] if it is stressful

[1:39:51] or not how they're feeling at the moment or

[1:39:54] there's a scene where they're literally watching a

[1:39:55] videotape that's about how you're supposed to talk to people

[1:39:58] at a funeral that you're holding or

[1:40:00] attending and

[1:40:01] she gives this speech at the end that is so like kind of nakedly personal and i just found it

[1:40:06] really super moving and and really beautiful so the funeral not to be confused with abel ferreira's

[1:40:11] gangster movie the funeral which is a very different movie this is the funeral the japanese

[1:40:16] yeah i should clarify the movie i recommended apostle should not be confused with the robert

[1:40:21] duvall movie the apostle which is still a good movie yeah you could watch you could do a double

[1:40:26] feech or as dan calls them dan bull features uh-huh and uh hold the dark shouldn't be confused

[1:40:35] with i don't know the darkest hour uh that's the best i could come up with okay sure okay

[1:40:41] academy dancer in the dark no uh darkness falls darkness falls the most ironically named town in

[1:40:49] history it shouldn't be it shouldn't be confused with hold the mayonnaise which is what i would

[1:40:54] say if i was ordering a sandwich at a deli why would you hold the mayonnaise uh shouldn't it go

[1:40:59] on the sandwich and not in your hand no i want to hold it so i can use that as a lubricant for

[1:41:03] my own purposes later okay depending on how good the sandwich is okay well would you make sure to

[1:41:11] tell the deli man so that he does his best work i'm like deli man if this sandwich is as good as

[1:41:16] i think it's going to be then i'm going to show my appreciation in a way that you might not expect

[1:41:20] wow that's the uh like clickbait headline of the century

[1:41:25] this this deli sandwich was great and you'll never guess what happened next

[1:41:31] well you're like why does this have a picture of jody sweeten here from full house

[1:41:36] it's insane i guess i have to click through

[1:41:40] these are censored historical photos i wouldn't believe they're just hey this is just public

[1:41:46] domain photography that you made me click through i think that this is the perfect gross note on

[1:41:51] which to end uh-huh so uh thanks for listening oh yeah you had something to say before we go

[1:41:57] elliot before we go i just want to remind people we're part of the maximum fun network and there's

[1:42:00] a lot of great maximum fun shows on there i want you to enjoy them all but if you liked this show

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[1:42:35] marina i feel like i feel like as long as you don't unfriend her you're fine uh yeah but you

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[1:42:50] love that all right well thanks uh everyone it's been great to talk to as always and a great to

[1:42:57] talk to the audience uh but it's time to go so for the flop house i've been dan mccoy hey i'm

[1:43:02] stuart wellington i'm ellie kalin in sunny los angeles sorry bye

[1:43:10] yeah if we don't uh we don't get ad money we're gonna have to close the plop house guys

[1:43:20] uh-oh i guess we're gonna do a dance competition dance count i was gonna say a bikini car wash

[1:43:26] but i guess dance competition is slightly more pc we'll do a bikini dance car wash competition

[1:43:33] And the guys in the cars are like, my car is not getting very clean with all this dancing going on.

[1:43:37] What do you think that there's a lot of reviews online for the bikini car wash that are mad at how poor the car wash aspect of it is?

[1:43:45] And they're like, they played the song Pony by Genuine on repeat like 10 times.

[1:43:54] I will say my windshield ended up very clean until the boob prints began to mess it up again.

[1:44:01] Yeah, they started to appear.

[1:44:02] They didn't even offer to do the interiors.

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