Ep. #272 - Pottersville

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss Pottersville.

[0:03] Dan, it's pronounced Hogwarts.

[0:30] Hey everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:36] Hey Dan, how you doing?

[0:37] All right. We can't get through a single intro.

[0:42] Hey guys, I'm Stuart Wellington from the Flophouse podcast.

[0:45] Hey guys, guess who I am. I'll give you two clues.

[0:48] Okay, and if we guess your true name, do we get to have power over you?

[0:53] You get power over me and I'll help you spin straw into gold.

[0:56] So, here's two clues.

[0:58] One, I'm America's rascal sweetheart.

[1:00] And two, my name is Elliot Kalin.

[1:02] Can you guess it?

[1:03] I think you buried the lead.

[1:05] Did I use that turn of phrase correctly?

[1:08] It's close enough.

[1:10] So, can you guess my identity?

[1:12] Rumpelstiltskin.

[1:14] Okay, you got me.

[1:16] I didn't think you were going to guess it that easily since it's such a goofy name.

[1:20] But, yeah, Rumpelstiltskin.

[1:22] My family invented the stilt and also the rump.

[1:25] Apparently, your family invented stilts that have skin over them.

[1:31] Yeah, and they go on your rump.

[1:32] No, it's – oh, I see.

[1:34] That's a better explanation for my name, yeah.

[1:37] Yeah, so here's the problem is that we invented coverings for stilts, stilt skin we call it.

[1:42] But it was so easily wrinkled and rumpled because of the fabric it was made out of that people called us Rumpelstiltskin, and it just stuck.

[1:48] And you know what?

[1:49] When you have a brand, all publicity is good publicity.

[1:53] So people are like, Rumpelstiltskin?

[1:54] Their stiltskins get very easily rumpled.

[1:56] And also, they try to steal babies by teaching women how to spin straw into gold.

[2:00] And I'm like, hey, I'm not even going to try to defend myself against those charges because that's just going to keep the rumor in the news cycle.

[2:06] But all publicity is good publicity.

[2:09] Hey, you don't like Rumpelstiltskin, but you're talking about me.

[2:12] That's true.

[2:13] So can I sell you some stiltskins?

[2:15] Warning, they do rumple a bit.

[2:16] My stilts are pretty good unvarnished, unmolested.

[2:22] They're fine as they are.

[2:24] What?

[2:24] Stuart.

[2:26] I think Stuart might be America's Rascal.

[2:29] I don't know.

[2:30] Oh, man.

[2:31] Anyway.

[2:33] Well, I am a thing that you can ride around on if you're old or have trouble walking.

[2:37] No, we wouldn't ride on you, Stuart.

[2:40] Your back's too weak for that.

[2:42] Very fragile.

[2:43] So that's the thing, guys.

[2:44] I've been waiting to give you guys a back update.

[2:46] Okay, great.

[2:47] So I've been going to the gym a little bit, chasing gains,

[2:51] pushing weights around.

[2:52] And you know what?

[2:53] My back has never felt better.

[2:55] That's great.

[2:56] Mm-hmm.

[2:56] So FYI,

[2:58] Stuart's back is feeling better.

[3:01] So I guess FYI to the,

[3:03] to whatever the equivalent

[3:05] to Stuart's bane is,

[3:06] if you're going to break Stuart's back,

[3:08] now's the time to do it.

[3:09] It's at its peak condition.

[3:11] I feel like,

[3:12] yeah,

[3:13] yeah,

[3:14] yeah,

[3:14] yeah.

[3:14] I'm flying so high.

[3:16] I'm like Icarus,

[3:17] if Icarus bragged about his back

[3:20] all the time before bane snapped him in half oh you know that's exactly what happened icarus was

[3:24] like strap those wings on my back feels great and he flew too close to the sun what they mean is the

[3:29] son of bane's father bane and bane just is like always talking about his back i'm gonna snap it

[3:35] and he did that's why bane broke batman's back right is because batman was going on the news

[3:40] and stuff bragging about how strong his back was well the the thing is he's actually not called

[3:44] batman he's called back man oh he's always talking about his back and he has the he has a back as

[3:50] strong as 10 men's backs and so because here's a he was bitten by a radioactive back and it gave

[3:56] him a lot when and he said hmm criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot and then and then

[4:03] a back fell through his window and he said i'll be a back so he's always bragging about his back

[4:07] and he wrote a book called back man's guide to back strength and bane was like my back's way

[4:12] stronger than him i'll show him because it takes a lot of back strength to break someone else's back

[4:16] but that was the thing what what backman didn't uh didn't tell anybody and bane found out by

[4:22] reading a bunch of books is that backman was originally dipped into the river styx by his

[4:26] mother but she had to hold on to his back the whole time and that turned out that was the only

[4:31] part of him that wasn't immortal or whatever yeah which he didn't realize now the big the big mistake

[4:36] was that bane at first got backman mixed up with beckman the man with all the powers of beck which

[4:42] Which, as you know, gives you amazing power over beats and you can dance like James Brown.

[4:46] And you're kind of the Sam Rockwell of music in a lot of ways.

[4:49] And you're also like a Scientologist.

[4:51] I mean, everyone's religion is their own choice.

[4:55] That's not a superpower unless you are – I guess some people's religion gives them superpowers like Donny and Marie Osmond.

[5:02] But at first Bane went after Beckman because Bane, he has a problem.

[5:09] He reads A's and E's as the same letter.

[5:12] oh okay i'm getting real deep into this yeah so what's that called a dip thong or whatever where

[5:16] it's an a and an e right next to each other uh and so he went after beckman and beckman was like

[5:21] but my back is normal strength and bane was like don't try to don't try to convince me now i'm

[5:25] gonna break your back too yeah well that was america's dip thong elliot calen going off on a

[5:31] weird rant guys i didn't even talk about it when he went after bickman okay yeah it was the power

[5:37] to shave.

[5:38] I thought it was Bic Pens.

[5:41] And Bic Lighters.

[5:43] I'm glad that you

[5:45] extended this a little bit more, Dan.

[5:47] So, Dan, what do we do

[5:50] on this podcast other than waste everybody's time?

[5:51] We watch a bad

[5:54] movie and then we talk about it.

[5:55] What did we do this week?

[5:57] Well, we watched a movie that, because it's the

[5:59] holiday season, I suggested a movie called

[6:01] Pottersville. And we just

[6:03] went along with it.

[6:04] Vaguely a

[6:06] holiday movie.

[6:07] It's kind of Christmassy.

[6:08] It's a movie that, it's like a snowball going down a hill.

[6:11] It picks up more Christmas as it rolls along.

[6:13] Until by the end, they're like, it's a Christmas miracle.

[6:16] And I was like, wait a minute.

[6:17] What was Christmassy about this movie up until this point?

[6:20] That it's winter?

[6:21] I don't understand.

[6:22] And also the soundtrack is ridiculously Christmassy.

[6:26] That's true.

[6:27] They have a bunch of Christmas songs.

[6:28] Now, Dan, what brought this movie to your attention?

[6:31] Because I had never heard of it, despite it having an objectively amazing cast.

[6:34] Yeah.

[6:35] When it first came out, there was a spate of articles about it.

[6:40] They were like, what is this movie Pottersville and why does it have all these famous people in it?

[6:44] I remember one of the actors in the film, Ron Perlman, going on social media being like mad that people are trashing this movie.

[6:57] Should we not trash it then?

[6:59] Because he was a producer on it too, Ron Perlman.

[7:02] I like him a lot.

[7:03] Yeah, I think he was complaining.

[7:05] It was that complaint of like, people are only making fun of it because it isn't some big-budget superhero movie or some shit.

[7:13] And it's like, no, that's not why.

[7:15] No, there's valid reasons to make fun of it.

[7:18] It's a deeply strange movie.

[7:20] It's a strange movie.

[7:21] This cast, you got Michael Shannon as the hero.

[7:24] You got Judy Greer, Flophouse's favorite Judy.

[7:27] In a bit of stunt casting, they cast Michael Shannon to play a non-Bigfoot.

[7:34] Michael Shannon is playing the kind of Jimmy Stewart role.

[7:38] This is very, it's not much like It's a Wonderful Life, but in tone I think they want it to be like that.

[7:41] And he's playing that Jimmy Stewart role when usually Michael Shannon plays the role of someone who is a serial killer.

[7:47] And so at every moment I was waiting for the end of violence moment or history of violence moment where it would be revealed that he was actually a hitman who was undercover somewhere.

[7:58] Yeah, there's something about normcore Michael Shannon that makes it all the more terrifying and tense.

[8:05] There's a moment late in the movie where he and Judy Greer exchange a kiss.

[8:09] And I have never felt more nervous for both people in my life.

[8:14] You were afraid that he was going to bite her lip off.

[8:16] Quite possibly.

[8:17] And I love Michael Shannon.

[8:19] I think he's an amazing actor.

[8:20] He's fantastic.

[8:21] But there is an intensity about him that the idea that that could just exist in a small town shopkeeper is terrifying to me.

[8:27] Yeah, I forgot who it is.

[8:30] I have a friend who has interacted with him before,

[8:33] and she says that he's the sweetest man in the world,

[8:35] but that that intensity is always there.

[8:37] I think that's Delaney, right?

[8:38] Delaney knows him.

[8:39] Maybe.

[8:40] Could be.

[8:41] Yeah, I believe a former Daily Show writer and co-worker of us,

[8:45] Delaney Yeager, I believe, has met Michael Shannon

[8:48] and says he's a very intense guy.

[8:49] Okay, so the rest of the cast.

[8:51] There's Judy Greer, Flophouse favorite.

[8:53] Everybody loves her.

[8:54] There's Ron Perlman, Flophouse favorite,

[8:57] The one and only Hellboy, as far as I'm concerned.

[8:58] Christina Hendricks, Flophouse.

[9:01] David Barber.

[9:02] I haven't seen the movie yet.

[9:03] It hasn't come out.

[9:04] Maybe he's great.

[9:04] I thought it was David Harbour.

[9:06] Harbour, yeah.

[9:06] Is he also a barber?

[9:09] He's the Demon Barber because he's Hellboy.

[9:11] So he's David Harbour, the Demon Barber.

[9:13] Oh, okay.

[9:14] Christina Hendricks, Flophouse favorite.

[9:17] Yeah, she's great.

[9:17] From Mad Men, my favorite TV show.

[9:19] Thomas Lennon, a comedy legend.

[9:21] He's in it too.

[9:22] He's amazing.

[9:23] Ian McShane, acting legend from Deadwood,

[9:25] who I got to work with once on a daily show project,

[9:27] there's all these people in it where I'm like,

[9:29] oh, this is going to be, this is such an amazing cast.

[9:31] This is going to be an amazing movie.

[9:32] Was this an amazing movie, guys?

[9:34] Well, it depends on your yardstick.

[9:37] Now, here's the thing about this movie.

[9:40] This movie, and we'll get to it.

[9:42] I'll give you a forewarning.

[9:43] I'm going to get a little mad at the end

[9:44] because this movie went from an instant,

[9:47] at the very end of the movie,

[9:48] it went from very harmlessly inoffensive

[9:50] to incredibly offensive to me.

[9:52] We'll explain why when we get to it.

[9:55] That's a little – I'm billboarding that, that I got very mad at the end of the movie.

[9:58] That's a little teaser.

[9:59] Interesting.

[9:59] So let's talk about what happens in this movie.

[10:01] Guys, you know what?

[10:02] Usually – this will give you a hint of what this movie was like.

[10:05] Usually when we do these episodes, my notes on a movie can run to six pages, and I'm crossing stuff out because I have to decide what details are worth talking about.

[10:14] My notes for this movie are three pages long, and I think I crossed nothing out.

[10:18] And filled mainly with cartoons of Bigfoot.

[10:22] Yeah, or a very unconvincing Bigfoot-ish costume.

[10:25] Okay, Pottersville.

[10:27] It's kind of an independent film with an amazing cast.

[10:29] Pottersville is a small town.

[10:31] It's fallen on hard times.

[10:32] The mill closed, all these stores are shuttered,

[10:35] and the center of the town is really Michael Shannon's General Store,

[10:38] which has been in the town for 200 or some odd years.

[10:41] And it's just an old-fashioned general store,

[10:43] literally with jars of penny candy on the counter.

[10:46] If stores are going to be shuttered in this town,

[10:49] I was thinking that this store would be first among them.

[10:52] It really seems to be the sort of store that only would be able to survive in a high-tourism area, which this town is not.

[11:00] No, it's very vintage.

[11:02] It's like, oh, we can't shut down the Notion's store.

[11:05] Exactly.

[11:06] Let's do what you say.

[11:06] The whole town, despite having fallen on tough times economically, all kind of looks like a L.L. Bean catalog from the 90s.

[11:18] Oh, yeah.

[11:19] And by that I mean it's all white people.

[11:22] That's true.

[11:23] And their clothes look great.

[11:25] Nobody looks like – I mean nobody looks like they've fallen on hard times.

[11:28] Yeah, they can afford laundry detergent apparently.

[11:31] And the other reason that Michael Shannon's store should be out of business is he's so kindly he just lets people take things and owe him money.

[11:37] And he says that he writes their name in a big ledger.

[11:40] I'll get you when you have money.

[11:41] It's OK.

[11:41] I'll get you when you have money.

[11:42] And at first when he says that, I'm like, oh, he's like a Leland Gaunt.

[11:46] This is a fucking needful thing.

[11:48] Yeah, he's going to come back and steal their secrets and wishes.

[11:51] Because casting Michael Shannon is one of those things where you're like, you can't fool me.

[11:56] He's a bad guy.

[11:57] You're waiting for the other shoe to drop the entire movie.

[11:59] I was waiting for a post-credits scene where he's just got bloody hands and everyone in town is dead around him.

[12:05] And he goes, not again.

[12:07] Not again.

[12:08] I've done it again.

[12:09] But that didn't happen.

[12:10] Okay, and he works with Judy Greer, who just works with him.

[12:14] And it's clear that she's got a little bit of a crush on Mikey Shands.

[12:17] And why not?

[12:18] The sexual tension between the two of them is so palpable right away.

[12:22] It is.

[12:22] It's like it's palpable in a real unemotional New England sort of way where it's like there's a glance.

[12:29] And you know that if this movie didn't end the way it did, then at some point 30 years from now on their deathbeds, they might hold hands.

[12:36] And that would be the extent of their passion.

[12:39] This movie obviously sets her up to be the true love interest of the movie.

[12:43] Yet, up until the moment that they kiss at the very end of the movie, spoilers, there's no romantic, like, plot, really, between them.

[12:53] Well, no, she asks him over to go watch a movie with him at home at one point.

[12:58] But I think she's also worried he's going to kill himself at that point because he's so sad.

[13:01] Do you think that was also an attempt by the movie to subvert expectations, like casting Michael Shannon to play a normal dude?

[13:09] Did they cast Judy Greer, who is often cast as either the best friend or like, I don't know, the shrill ex-wife, to cast her in the lead, the romantic lead in this case?

[13:19] Do you think that was the attempt for the movie to like mess with you?

[13:22] This movie is a real mindfuck of a movie.

[13:25] That's what I'm trying to go for.

[13:27] It's always subverting expectations.

[13:29] Also in town, Ian McShane, he's a local hunter and drunk who has his own moonshine and is kind of the villain of the movie, but the movie doesn't seem to realize that.

[13:37] so michael shannon he comes home early from work one day only discover that his wife christina

[13:42] hendrix is a furry and she's having a which they don't really seem to understand what furries are

[13:48] in the movie before we get to that i feel like this movie uses that fucking movie shorthand

[13:53] it uses the movie short it used two bits of movie shorthand that bug me one is a guy who's like i'm

[13:58] gonna go home early is shorthand for you're gonna find out something that's going on no one ever

[14:03] goes home early in a movie and finds that

[14:05] their wife is delighted that they're there.

[14:07] You know? Yep. And

[14:08] then the other one is the idea of a movie

[14:11] that begins with a man's

[14:13] like wife cheating

[14:15] on him and has the weird fantasy

[14:17] of like his life exploding

[14:19] like his life and responsibilities exploding

[14:21] around him and how could he pick himself back

[14:23] up? Well here's the thing. In real life

[14:25] people do

[14:27] not ever find out things about their marriages

[14:29] that they don't like. And marriages never

[14:31] fall apart. So it's such a science

[14:33] fictiony crazy idea that the only way for someone to respond to it in a movie is for their entire

[14:37] life to be shattered and to literally lose their sanity and dress up in a gorilla costume and run

[14:42] around because it's just a thing that's it's kind of like how uh it's like in real we all these

[14:47] movies about aliens but no one's ever really encountered an alien if they did their heads

[14:51] would explode similarly there's all these movies why is elliot winking when he says that thing

[14:55] about no one's ever encountered an alien uh well they haven't found us yet oops uh they it's but

[15:02] Yeah, these movies treat it as if when someone's marriage is in trouble, one, they would never know about it ahead of time.

[15:08] It's always a shock and a surprise, which just shows bad communication.

[15:12] But also that, two, that it's like there's no way of surviving it without having a clear mental break.

[15:21] And, Dan, I guess what I'm dancing around is Flophouse listeners know that you had a separation sleep.

[15:25] You did not have a mental collapse, which led to you doing insane, crazy things.

[15:29] You didn't have like a falling down type scenario.

[15:32] You're a regular human being, and you were like, this is difficult, but I have to live through it.

[15:36] I mean, if you stop the sentence at mental collapse, I think you might be wrong.

[15:40] But I did not run around in a Bigfoot costume, as we will find out that Michael Shannon does later on in the movie.

[15:48] To be fair, Dan, you are always kind of on the edge of a mental collapse.

[15:51] That was, you know.

[15:52] Uh-huh.

[15:54] That was a real pick-me-up, Ellie.

[15:59] I'm sorry.

[16:01] I'm just saying that it's a film trope that's not – it's the same way that a woman can have an upset stomach without being pregnant and someone can cough into a handkerchief without dying of consumption.

[16:11] Like that's just what happens in the movies.

[16:13] So Michael Shannon has come home.

[16:14] Christina Hendricks is a furry.

[16:16] She likes dressing up as a bunny.

[16:17] She's having a non-sexual affair with Ron Perlman, the town sheriff, who dresses like a wolf.

[16:22] There's apparently a furry club and there's nothing sexual about it.

[16:26] They just like to hang around each other and rub up against each other in furry costumes.

[16:30] Now here's the thing.

[16:31] Oh, weird. Is that going to go on a weird soapbox against furries?

[16:36] No, well, the thing is that like the movie kind of wants to have it both ways, I think, where there's a scene later where it's kind of implied like it's OK for them to be furries.

[16:45] But every scene up to that point, furry is just an out and out punch line.

[16:48] And it's not a fetish that I happen to share, but there are people who have it.

[16:52] And like the idea that it's, I guess it's a famous enough fetish that you can make fun of it, but it is not so, so well known that it's normalized.

[17:02] But it felt very icky to me the entire time that it was like seen as, that it's implied as just a weird thing.

[17:07] The way the movie treats it.

[17:10] The movie, yeah, not the fetish itself, which whatever, I don't care, no one's getting hurt, but the way the movie treats it.

[17:15] The movie treats the very existence of furries as a joke in and of itself is the problem.

[17:20] Yeah. And it bugs me because it's like, make up some silly fetish of your own. Don't use a real thing. Like, if it's going to be a joke, make something up so you're not making fun of real people.

[17:31] Unfortunately, this, I think it's, I mean, the fetish is what is the catalyst for the whole plot of the movie.

[17:38] That's true. Well, maybe they shouldn't have made this movie, I guess is what I'm getting at.

[17:41] Whoa.

[17:42] It's also weird that if they're going to...

[17:44] Final judgments.

[17:45] I do find it strange that if they're going to do this, if they're going to have, like, this break up the marriage, that they make it so very clear that it's non-sexual.

[17:55] I was wondering who this movie is for, because it's like a movie for grown-ups that seems like it is chasing a PG rating.

[18:04] That's why it landed on PG-13.

[18:07] Yeah, I guess you're right.

[18:09] Everyone's favorite rating.

[18:11] It's like – it feels like the movie doesn't know what the tone is supposed to be, and it's something I want to get at.

[18:17] This is a weird movie, not necessarily plot-wise.

[18:19] The movie plot is – there's not a lot of plot in this movie.

[18:22] You could do this movie in 22 minutes probably.

[18:24] But everything about the movie, like the way it's shot and paced and the score, it feels very strange and claustrophobic and artificial.

[18:31] And it's like they think they're making a Coen Brothers movie, but it doesn't have a sense of life about it.

[18:36] But the score is like a Hallmark movie.

[18:38] It's just like the most cartoonish.

[18:40] Stuart, while he was watching it, texted us and was like,

[18:45] this score is working overtime.

[18:46] When you said that this movie could have been done in 22 minutes,

[18:52] I think it kind of has.

[18:53] Wasn't that like the plot of the second episode of The Simpsons?

[18:56] Yeah, basically that he gets mistaken for Bigfoot, yes.

[18:59] There's actually more incident in that because they go camping,

[19:02] he gets lost, he gets captured by scientists.

[19:05] There's more in that than there is in this movie.

[19:07] But, like, did the tone of the movie feel, like, weirdly, like everything was in a snow globe packed with, like, foam peanuts to you the same way it did to me?

[19:17] Just airless, you know?

[19:18] Yeah.

[19:19] Well, I mean, I noticed it had a very strange manner of being shot, too.

[19:24] There was a lot of extreme close-ups.

[19:25] Yeah.

[19:26] Which I think makes it more insulated, like you say, like insular.

[19:30] There's just a lot of, like, tight shots on Michael Shannon's face.

[19:34] Yeah, just like you were never really here.

[19:37] and like it's not shot poorly it's just not it's shot in a way that does not serve the material

[19:43] like it's not ugly but it's like it feels like someone watched a lot of like barry sonnenfeld's

[19:49] movies from the early 90s late 80s and was like got it that's how you shoot a movie but without

[19:54] really knowing why you do it that way in certain times okay but here's the important thing we've

[19:58] danced around it enough michael shannon shattered at his wife's kind of infidelity but really keeping

[20:03] the secret gets drunk and more than that she she says that she thinks they should take a break right

[20:08] she says she's looking for excitement and she can't find it in her life with him the only

[20:12] excitement she has is dressing up like a bunny and just kind of playfully patting the sheriff

[20:16] in a wolf costume and so michael shannon as we've mentioned there's only one response this his mind

[20:22] shatters he gets drunk puts on a gorilla costume and then blacks out because she's like because

[20:28] His thinking is, he's like, if she likes padding Ron Perlman, I will make myself look like Ron Perlman.

[20:35] Yeah, in order to catch a furry, I must become a furry, is what he says.

[20:39] That's kind of what, leading up to that, there's a scene of Michael Shannon being drunk, which was a very exciting moment, because I'm like, here's where he's going to snap.

[20:49] No, you were hoping for a kind of Nick Cage and Mandy type performance there for Michael Shannon.

[20:55] Yeah, and I mean, I think this is the most excited he seems in the whole movie.

[20:59] Yeah, to say that Michael Shannon sleepwalks through the movie, I think, is maybe a bit of an accurate statement, possibly.

[21:05] Are you suggesting, Stuart, that Michael Shannon took the role because he wanted to run around in a Bigfoot costume?

[21:10] I 100% think that's why.

[21:12] This is the closest Michael Shannon gets to that moment that he gets in most movies, where most movies there's at least one scene where it looks like Michael Shannon's eyes are just going to fly out of his head.

[21:25] uh and this is about i mean this happens early on in the movie so it's uh it's a bummer that

[21:31] you have to go through the rest of the movie without that kind of uh what thunder from big

[21:35] trouble in old china moment yeah you gotta assume that michael shannon has a checklist he has a

[21:39] bucket list of things he wants to do on this earth and it's like okay act on the stage yes

[21:44] nominated for an oscar yes work with ferner herzog yes run around in a bigfoot costume

[21:49] why is no one giving me this opportunity i don't understand am i gonna have to self-finance this

[21:54] project and this movie comes along now here's the other thing the gorilla costume is not that furry

[21:59] it's when you're a furry i think it's really the plush aspect of it yeah that really gets people

[22:03] the softness this costume looks pretty rough and i do not think it's going to win over christina

[22:08] but i mean he's he's learning he's new to the uh the lifestyle but he you know he wants her back

[22:14] yeah i mean the to to paint a word picture the uh no no paint us a real picture dan use paint

[22:20] okay well i'll have to unpack my easel but all right okay uh no it it's the costume is one of

[22:31] those um camouflage costumes that's like made to look like sort of swamp moss and that's what he's

[22:37] wearing on his body like a ghillie suit yeah i don't know what that means that's what like that's

[22:41] what like cool snipers wear all right yeah like like ghillie the kristen wick character on saturday

[22:46] live and then as we said he's wearing a gorilla mask which he pulls out of his i guess halloween

[22:52] stock of uh stuff that he has in his store it's that period when it's almost christmas but there's

[22:57] still some halloween stuff on sale yeah because the gorilla masks didn't fly off the shelves the

[23:01] way he thought they would here's the hint here's the hint michael shannon stock the whole costume

[23:05] not just the mask nobody wants to go as gorilla basketball dunk mascot every year i know you think

[23:11] that's the best costume a gorilla mask you got a basketball uniform and then you jump off of a

[23:17] catapult trampoline whatever to do dunks people love it in the middle of a basketball game they

[23:21] do not love it on halloween sorry michael shannon maybe you think they do maybe he was thinking

[23:26] those kids would just put on the mask and put on what like a like a button-down shirt and a tie

[23:31] and go as monkey man and o'brien kids favorite comic book character which is connected to here

[23:38] because Ron Perlman played Hellboy

[23:39] and Monkey Man and O'Brien started as a backup series

[23:42] in the original Hellboy miniseries.

[23:44] Stuart, you've opened a beautiful web of connections here.

[23:47] Monkey Man and O'Brien,

[23:49] the series that never quite got off the ground

[23:51] despite having the amazing art of Art Adams.

[23:54] Guys, can we talk about how amazing Art Adams is?

[23:56] He's great.

[23:57] He manages to do cheesecake artwork

[23:58] that doesn't make you feel totally creepy.

[24:01] Not totally, but the fact that it's always

[24:04] a cheesecake woman who's fighting a big monster

[24:06] helps a little bit, I guess.

[24:07] It certainly helps, yeah.

[24:08] Okay, so Maynard wakes up to find that the whole town thinks that it saw Bigfoot running around.

[24:13] And he remembers these flashes of running around and drinking out of a fountain in the shape of a little boy peeing.

[24:18] And everyone –

[24:20] I have to say, this scene goes on bafflingly long.

[24:22] It's like the movie does not expect us to put two and two together.

[24:25] Exactly.

[24:26] It's a series of close-up of Michael Shannon's face and then like ten different scenes of him remembering Bigfoot running around.

[24:35] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[24:37] It's very Chaz Palminteri at the end of Usual Suspects.

[24:40] Except if that went on forever and then he called other people into the room and was like,

[24:44] hold on a second, help me put these pieces together.

[24:46] Wait a sec.

[24:47] And then the text, the text verbal is Kaiser Soze just flashed on the screen over and over again.

[24:53] The subtext of this movie is Michael Shannon's really stupid.

[24:56] His character or the actor?

[24:59] His character.

[25:00] I was going to say, that's some weird shade, dude.

[25:02] Yeah, he's clearly not.

[25:04] He's a brilliant man.

[25:05] Okay, here's my guess.

[25:06] Michael Shannon loves running around in that Bigfoot costume that he kept making them shoot more and more footage of him, and they're like, we've used up so much film shooting him as Bigfoot.

[25:14] We've got to find a way to use some of it in the movie.

[25:17] We just have so – and so they kind of tried to other side of the wind it and use all the footage they could into these choppy moments.

[25:23] Okay, so the town is hopping now.

[25:26] Everyone is excited that Bigfoot is here.

[25:27] This could revitalize the town.

[25:29] This could make the town famous.

[25:30] Even Maynard's wife, Christina Hendricks, is really excited because the implication, I guess, is that she wants to have sex with Bigfoot.

[25:36] Like that's – that Bigfoot is like the ultimate furry because he's furry on the inside as well.

[25:40] Yeah, I mean –

[25:41] Wait, what?

[25:42] No, a human can only be furry on the outside wearing a costume.

[25:46] But on the inside, they're always going to be a human, not an anthropomorphic animal.

[25:50] But Bigfoot, he's an anthropomorphic animal on the inside, his soul, and also on the outside.

[25:55] So it's like, oh, finally, the ultimate, the alpha and omega.

[25:58] Yeah, I mean, I don't know that much about squatches, but you're probably right.

[26:02] I mean, I think more than anything, she's just excited.

[26:05] I only know about butternut squatches.

[26:06] She's happy that there's excitement in her life and in her town.

[26:10] I mean, I think she even says this is the most exciting thing to happen in our town in 10 years.

[26:14] That's true.

[26:15] I just had a flash on the implication of this maybe being that Christina Hendricks, her porn is Harry and the Hendersons.

[26:23] I'm sure it is for somebody, Dan.

[26:27] Yeah, probably.

[26:28] Yeah, it's got John Lithgow in it.

[26:30] I mean, come on.

[26:31] It doesn't get sexier than that.

[26:33] That's why everybody loves that,

[26:34] what's that movie you made with Brian De Palma?

[26:38] Raising Cain.

[26:39] Raising Cain, thank you.

[26:40] That's why Raising Cain, people think, is so sexy.

[26:42] And you see all those women dressing up

[26:44] in sexy Dr. Lizardo costumes on Halloween?

[26:47] I mean, my love of Raising Cain

[26:49] certainly is why I often frequent

[26:51] Raising Cain's Chicken Fingers chain restaurant

[26:55] whenever I'm in the Midwest.

[26:56] I thought you were going to say Raising Cane Conventions.

[26:59] Oh, Cane Con?

[27:01] Yeah, it's pretty cool.

[27:02] Oh, yeah.

[27:03] Are you guys going to be at Cane Con this year or are you going to sit it out this time?

[27:06] Uh-huh.

[27:06] Yeah, and I'll show up with my copy of Cane by Gene Toomer and try and get it autographed by Brenda Palmer.

[27:13] I like to imagine that at Cane Con, like 90% of the people are there thinking it's a Citizen Cane Convention and everyone else just has to explain them like, no, no, no, no.

[27:20] This is Raising Cane Convention.

[27:22] Actually, the thing is, 90% of them are there thinking it is an industry convention for makers of canes.

[27:26] So you've got elderly people, you've got cane manufacturers, you've got candy cane companies.

[27:31] But the big thing is always when John Lithgow gives his state of the industry speech at the end of it, where he talks about how the cane industry, meaning Raising Cane, is doing.

[27:39] And he talks about, not a lot of Raising Cane remakes this year, haven't rebooted Raising Cane yet.

[27:44] And the big moment is at the end when he announces that year's DVD sales for Raising Cane.

[27:50] People love it.

[27:52] Oh, Cane Con is fun.

[27:55] You should go to Cane Con.

[27:56] It's in Richmond, Indiana, right by Earlham College.

[27:58] If you're staying there, do not expect a quick breakfast at the Holiday Inn.

[28:03] Let's just say that.

[28:04] Oh, wow.

[28:05] This is a little inside talk from our trip to Earlham where we did a live show just recently.

[28:10] We had the slowest breakfast ever.

[28:12] That's the background.

[28:14] That's the background.

[28:15] If you've ever been to a Holiday Inn, ordered breakfast, and then you've waited so long for the food that the restaurant has closed

[28:21] before it is delivered to you.

[28:22] I think you're being charitable

[28:25] by calling it a restaurant, Elliot.

[28:27] I feel like it was a lobby.

[28:28] Yeah.

[28:30] Good point.

[28:31] What we needed was a real...

[28:34] It may have taken forever for our food to show up,

[28:36] but at least they were out of all the things

[28:38] we wanted to order.

[28:38] Good point.

[28:40] Good point.

[28:41] Of the three things left,

[28:42] it took them a while to really perfect them.

[28:44] Okay, so this town is famous now.

[28:47] The name of the town?

[28:47] Pottersville.

[28:48] I almost forgot it, but it's the name of the movie.

[28:50] It's not Forgottersville.

[28:51] No.

[28:52] A famous TV monster hunter, Brock – what was his name?

[28:56] Brock Masterson or something like that?

[28:58] He is played by Thomas Lennon.

[29:00] He's Australian, and he's a real prima donna.

[29:03] We soon learn that he's not really Australian.

[29:05] He's just pretending.

[29:06] And this is – at start, he helicopters into town and says he's going to catch this squatch.

[29:11] Now, at first, this is a strangely understated performance for Thomas Lennon,

[29:15] a man who has done some large performances in the past in various you know various mediums you know

[29:21] this is miss this is mr le pan this but at first he's very and what i realized is like

[29:26] oh he realizes he has to get bigger throughout the movie and he's being a professional about it

[29:30] and i really i was i was impressed by thomas lennon's uh devotion to this part yeah i do want

[29:35] to say before we go too far away from it uh i think this movie really overestimates the amount

[29:40] of revitalization someone

[29:42] seeing Bigfoot would bring

[29:44] to a town.

[29:44] There's so much Bigfoot tourism all of a

[29:48] sudden. There's a moment

[29:50] where these guys are selling Bigfoot merchandise

[29:52] and they're like, did you know Bigfoot

[29:54] exists in every culture, in every

[29:56] language? And they say it a couple

[29:58] times in the movie and it's like, there's no

[29:59] damn way that that is true.

[30:01] Every language and every culture has a Bigfoot.

[30:04] Come on. Did you know that the fifth element

[30:06] is Bigfoot?

[30:08] I had no idea. Oh, wow.

[30:10] Did you guys – do you know Kaiser Soze?

[30:11] Bigfoot.

[30:12] Wow.

[30:14] I mean, there was some foot-related stuff with Kaiser Soze, so that would make sense.

[30:19] That's true, yeah.

[30:19] Did you know at the end, Cesar came when he says Rosebud?

[30:22] What he was actually saying was Rose Bigfoot.

[30:25] Oh, okay, yeah.

[30:26] Because he was talking about his –

[30:27] You've got to slow it down like Mumbles or whatever in Dick Tracy to figure that one out.

[30:33] Yeah, exactly.

[30:34] Play it backwards.

[30:35] It's backwards masked.

[30:38] So, yeah, the town is instantly revitalized.

[30:40] There's lots of people.

[30:41] It gets the attention of this guy.

[30:42] Now, I'm just going to say this right now.

[30:44] Thomas Lennon is playing the exact same character James Corden plays in Smallfoot, a fakey TV nature hunter who wants to—

[30:51] Thanks for a reference I will not understand at all.

[30:55] This is for the parents in the audience, is that both of them are television hosts who want to fake an experience with Bigfoot in order to get ratings and save their career.

[31:06] And it works a little better here than in Smallfoot.

[31:10] I'm just going to say that.

[31:11] And I think maybe the reason is because Thomas Lennon never sings a parody of Under Pressure.

[31:16] It's all about how his ratings are down and he needs to find a Bigfoot to save his career.

[31:20] Kids love that.

[31:21] Kids love Under Pressure and they love talk about TV ratings and people's careers in an industry they don't care that much about, even though they love watching TV.

[31:29] Okay, but guys.

[31:30] So this is a relatively short movie.

[31:32] And I feel like this is the point where they must have just realized, like, oh, we need to fill this.

[31:38] Let's just mainly, like, Michael Shannon's not the main character anymore.

[31:42] The main character is now Thomas Lennon's character.

[31:43] Michael Shannon, like, disappears.

[31:45] I texted the guys and I was like, who's the protagonist of this movie?

[31:49] Because he, yeah, he's gone for the whole middle section.

[31:52] Not the whole middle section.

[31:54] Every now and then they check on him and Judy Greer.

[31:55] And Judy Greer's like, hey, you okay?

[31:57] And Michael Shannon's like, I'm fine.

[31:58] And then they go back to Thomas Lennon.

[32:01] So first, Thomas Lennon and the cops, they go, and the whole town, they go to hunt for Bigfoot.

[32:05] They find a dead deer, and Thomas Lennon's like, oh, Bigfoot killed this deer.

[32:08] And then he plays a Yeti hunting song on his acoustic guitar that he dedicates to Nelson Mandela.

[32:14] This is a part of the movie where I was genuinely like, okay, I'm laughing at this part, that he's like, I did write a song about it, and everyone in the town loves him.

[32:21] And he's like, I want to dedicate this song to Nelson Mandela, and then gets choked up and then plays this dumb song about Yetis.

[32:27] And Ian McShane interrupts by parodying Quint in Jaws, scratching his fingers on a chalkboard and says, hey, if we want to be really famous, we can't just see Bigfoot.

[32:36] We've got to catch Bigfoot, which I kind of assumed was what Thomas Lennon was going to do anyway.

[32:40] I don't know what he's adding to that, but they say – he says, well, we'll think about it.

[32:46] Thomas Lennon goes to shoot his show in the woods in a scene that goes on forever, and they're trying to fake a Bigfoot encounter, and then Michael Shannon runs out in his costume and scares everybody.

[32:55] now this this scene features uh you know the the film crew working on the show and i just want to

[33:00] point out that one of my bartenders mickey auditioned for one of those roles really and

[33:05] he didn't get it oh how much better this movie would have been if mickey had been one of those

[33:10] dudes uh uh tom lennon he want now i want to have like an i was there too type interview with him

[33:17] about the audition process for pottersville did he read with michael shannon like how did how did

[33:21] happen didn't i don't i didn't get that any information about that but they did he did have

[33:25] to react to bigfoot pictures of bigfoot over and over

[33:28] reaction it's like i'm now i'm just imagining like people like with big flash cards and be like

[33:36] what do you think of this it's a big foot okay we need a bigger reaction it's a big foot give me a

[33:43] reaction as big as his foot and go uh anyway the ultimate thing that happens is thomas lennon he

[33:50] he wants to leave because he's scared of bigfoot oh it's real i saw i saw what looked like a man

[33:54] in a gorilla suit run right by me it means bigfoot is real i gotta get out of here but the producer

[33:59] says no this could save your career if you catch bigfoot you're gonna team up with ian mcshane

[34:03] and you know what sheriff ron perlman wants to come along too and then most of the movie at this

[34:07] point is just him hanging out in the woods kind of getting to know each other and bonding over

[34:11] their moonshine liquor uh to and just kind of culture clash between this prima donna city

[34:19] slicker thomas lennon and this backwoodsman ian mcshane and yeah michael shannon at a certain

[34:23] point you're like did he like did he have another commitment and he had to go make nocturnal

[34:28] animals they had to write around him like what happened yeah now guys and so much of this at

[34:35] this point is like is thomas lennon's character doing silly things and everybody just kind of

[34:42] like making fun of him for it yeah like i don't know it just doesn't it's not funny no it's like

[34:50] it's like every saturday night live sketch where you just have one character who's wacky and

[34:55] everybody else like comments on it's like why is he doing trying desperately to enliven this like

[35:01] he's got his big silly australian accent on and he's he's yelping and running around and his plan

[35:07] is to capture bigfoot okay i'm just laying this out he's going to capture bigfoot this will save

[35:14] his career and then he will no longer have to be brock masterson australian guy and then he can go

[35:21] back to making movies it's a little unclear how he's going to gracefully exit the persona of

[35:27] brock masterson and go back to his real life and and do i mean it might just be he continues to be

[35:33] brock but he's brock as an actor now but it is the implication he is saying like oh i'll catch

[35:37] bigfoot and then i can stop doing this show which is not really how hollywood works once you've had

[35:41] a big success they want you to keep doing that again so like if he the worst thing he could do

[35:46] is catch bigfoot because everyone would be like do it again get nessie catch nessie now and people

[35:50] and people really like it when you uh like pull the wool over their eyes like that i mean i guess

[35:57] this is effectively like an Ali G

[35:59] Sacha Baron Cohen type thing maybe

[36:01] if he spun it right

[36:02] I feel like that would be the right way to spin it and not

[36:05] like a what I'm still here

[36:07] Joaquin Phoenix type thing

[36:08] yeah that was well that's clearly the wrong way to spin it

[36:11] since it really hurt his career for a long time

[36:13] but he's recovered from it

[36:15] Joaquin Phoenix and you know

[36:17] and the director of I'm still here KCF

[36:19] like oh people love him

[36:21] he's hugely popular

[36:22] the academy award winning actor that is not mentioned in ads

[36:25] for his movies oh yeah the academy award-winning actor that is uh seems to it seems it's well let's

[36:31] not get into it it's like he's one of these guys where it's like hmm well i guess we'll just allow

[36:37] it and we'll just not like him very much and we'll just allow him to get away with things but anyway

[36:40] let's not we don't have to talk about that look i work in this industry i don't want to hurt my

[36:43] career let's keep talking about bigfoot and this let's talk about this movie that we're punching

[36:47] down on because the people who made it haven't made that much other stuff okay so uh bigfoot

[36:52] fever at this point it's starting to tear the town apart everyone is so hungry for fame that

[36:58] they've forgotten what the important thing is about pottersville which is ripping off michael

[37:02] shannon's store by taking things and never paying him that's what really holds this town together

[37:06] and michael shannon starts to worry what's going to happen to him if he gets found out and judy

[37:10] greer finds his gorilla costume since he has hidden it in the one bag in his store she starts

[37:17] to worry about him uh-oh uh there's a lot of fighting blah blah there's a lot of hunting

[37:23] and she's she's revealed at this point that she is not a fan of the the idea that somebody is

[37:29] dressing up as bigfoot like that she thinks that that's yeah she she's a

[37:35] uh what are you gonna say to her uh she just said she clearly i under she seems to be the

[37:44] only person who understands that this is just somebody in a costume not an actual bigfoot

[37:48] creature yes and that she is ready for this bigfoot shenanigans to be over and my guess is

[37:54] i think she's the only person in town who does not have a gas leak in her house

[37:57] very open to this dan what are you saying by the way what by the way we kind of glossed over this

[38:03] but michael shannon seemed to grasp the advantage of having a bigfoot in the town very quickly

[38:09] because almost like almost immediately he decided to continue going out as Bigfoot,

[38:15] even though like the first time was just a mental breakdown.

[38:17] But the second time, like he made a decision to go out as Bigfoot again.

[38:21] Well, that's the thing.

[38:22] I feel like it's pretty unmotivated, actually, in the movie.

[38:24] No, I don't know.

[38:25] That's his character choice because he thinks that this is a way he could get his wife

[38:28] interested in going back to her normal life.

[38:30] It's like first it's a mistake.

[38:32] Then he goes, well, maybe this will help me get my wife back.

[38:33] And then he's in too deep.

[38:35] Oh, man.

[38:36] He thought it would be just one last Bigfoot.

[38:38] And then he's out of the game.

[38:40] He's out of the Squatch game.

[38:42] But no, no, no.

[38:43] He's in too deep and he's got to keep going.

[38:45] I was really hoping there'd be scenes where Michael Shannon is like wrestling with the two sides of his identity at this point.

[38:51] And it's illustrated by him wrestling with Bigfoot.

[38:54] Yeah, where does the Shannon end and where does the Squatch begin?

[38:57] Yeah.

[38:57] Here's the thing.

[38:59] Guys, the lesson in this movie, you start by playing Bigfoot, but it always ends with Bigfoot playing you.

[39:05] Oh, wow.

[39:06] I didn't know that.

[39:07] You miss 100% of the Bigfoots you don't take.

[39:11] You don't have to be Bigfoot to work here, but it helps.

[39:15] I guess so.

[39:17] Look, God put me on Earth to do a specific number of Bigfoots.

[39:21] At this rate, I'll never die.

[39:23] That was when Bigfoot was carrying you.

[39:26] That's why those footprints in the sand were so big.

[39:32] Hang in there, and it's Bigfoot hanging from a branch.

[39:36] Guys, I came here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of Bigfoot.

[39:40] Hey, guys.

[39:41] Welcome to Bigfoot Park.

[39:43] All right.

[39:46] You know, the troubles of a Bigfoot don't amount to a hill of Bigfoots in this world.

[39:50] This is my new favorite game.

[39:54] This is the beginning of a beautiful Bigfoot.

[39:55] Now, you're probably asking yourself, did I shoot six Bigfoots or only five?

[39:59] Well, with all the Bigfoots, I kind of lost count of my Bigfoots.

[40:03] So ask yourself, do you feel lucky, Bigfoot?

[40:06] well do you we're gonna need a bigger foot etc so uh so the hunters think they found i guess a

[40:16] collection of bigfoots or possibly aliens dropping off bigfoot as a prisoner on earth the prison

[40:20] planet this is a theory that thomas lennon floats at one point i was kind of indie i was kind of

[40:25] hoping that would be this but it turns out it's just a convention of furries that are there to

[40:29] welcome bigfoot in what actually to be honest looks like a ridiculously pleasant winter carnival

[40:35] like yeah they've strung lights in the trees there's this warm glow about everything they're

[40:39] having a great time just kind of dancing i was like oh this looks like really fun until ian

[40:44] mcshane starts pointing a luger at people and i'm like where did you get that gun is that yeah

[40:49] is that part of your weird world war ii memorabilia collection uh ron perlman and thomas

[40:55] lennon they fall into it i mean ron perlman's already a furry thomas lennon's are into it but

[40:58] mcshane is like get out of here points that gun at them get out we're gonna catch this squatch

[41:02] and Michael Shannon goes out in his costume

[41:05] and Ian McShane is about to shoot him with that real gun

[41:08] and then Thomas Lennon shoots him with a tranq dart first,

[41:11] saving his life.

[41:12] They strap him to the front of a car

[41:15] and drive him into the center of town

[41:16] and Thomas Lennon gives a speech where he's like,

[41:18] I've made the greatest discovery in human history,

[41:20] which is overblowing it slightly

[41:22] even if it was a real Bigfoot.

[41:23] I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say that

[41:28] it would not really change human civilization

[41:31] that much to find Bigfoot,

[41:32] so people would be like,

[41:33] oh, that's cool,

[41:34] and they'd go about their lives.

[41:35] I don't think it would be that exciting,

[41:37] but Judy Greer unmasks Maynard

[41:40] in front of everybody,

[41:41] and it's almost like Clark Kent

[41:42] with his glasses,

[41:43] where it's like,

[41:44] how do people not see this

[41:46] as a man in a gorilla costume?

[41:47] It's so clearly a mask.

[41:48] Yeah, I mean, they trust him up.

[41:49] Like, they had to get really close to him

[41:52] to tie him up

[41:53] and put him in the back of that.

[41:54] Yeah, you have to imagine

[41:55] they would see the seams.

[41:56] They'd see the part

[41:56] where the mask separates

[41:58] from the neck of the costume,

[41:59] and you can see

[41:59] Michael Shannon's white skin and his brown hair underneath it and they'd be like, oh,

[42:04] this Bigfoot's got some weird skin condition, I guess, that his skin comes off in segments

[42:08] and then there's another person's skin underneath.

[42:09] The Bigfoot has a weird thing where his hands look like big gloves that don't attach to

[42:15] the sleeves of his arms and underneath you just see, I guess that's the white of fat.

[42:19] That's the blubber he uses to keep warm in the winter since his thick hair is not quite

[42:24] enough in the coldest of the winter nights.

[42:25] But anyway, Bigfoot, everybody.

[42:28] Now, you may smell high karate on him.

[42:31] That's actually natural Bigfoot musk that is not a cologne.

[42:34] And you may notice that he has a copy of Forbes magazine in his back pocket.

[42:40] Now, a lot of people don't know that Sasquatches have a natural pocket in the back of their rear and also that they love to read Forbes because they want to know who the wealthiest people in the world are.

[42:50] The Sasquatch, they have an interest in capitalism, of course, as we all know.

[42:54] Now, you may also realize that he is wearing a Kansas City Royals cap on his head.

[42:59] That's natural Sasquatch behavior.

[43:01] Sasquatches, they love baseball, but they love local teams.

[43:04] And even though we're not close to Kansas City, they, like the Kansas City Royals, have a big following in Kansas City and not too many other places except where there are Kansas City transplants.

[43:13] Now, you'll notice also that he is holding a toothbrush, and he's sticking the toothbrush into his neck to get at a mouth that is inside of his face.

[43:22] It's not because it's a person wearing a mask.

[43:24] It's because that's how you get to a Sasquatch's teeth, is through their trachea.

[43:27] It's the only way you can brush his teeth.

[43:29] And yes, question from the back, I know what you're going to ask.

[43:31] Yes, Sasquatches know how to brush their teeth.

[43:33] Dental care is very important, as we all know, because they eat deer that they kill in the woods, as we've seen earlier.

[43:40] Yes, another question about Sasquatch.

[43:41] You're wondering why he's wearing a shirt that says, this isn't a beer belly, it's a gas tank for a sex machine.

[43:45] Yes, well, Sasquatches, as we know, have a great sense of humor and often spend time in Fort Lauderdale during spring break.

[43:51] That explains that.

[43:52] thank you clearly the sasquatch went somewhere else and bought some tourism souvenirs we got

[43:56] great tourism souvenirs in the sasquatch store over at maynard's uh general store hey we haven't

[44:01] seen maynard in a while i wonder where he is you know what he's about the same height as the

[44:05] sasquatch that's kind of weird anyway and the sasquatch was kind of moaning in a way that

[44:10] sounded like maynard's voice but without moving his lips again the mouth inside of his head he

[44:14] has two mouths like an alien uh we had a theory that he was an alien that was dropped here as a

[44:18] prisoner of a sort we're not sure about that we'll ask him when he wakes up since we know he can

[44:21] speak english since he was he was moaning something that sounded like i'm maynard let me go but who

[44:27] knows this isn't the ziggy pitch you don't have to fill up 17 minutes of yeah yeah maybe maybe

[44:33] gawker will pick this bit up look the movie's almost over grier unmasks maynard judy grier

[44:37] unmasks maynard and shannon everyone is angry at michael shannon thomas lennon sues the town

[44:42] for fraud he's so mad and all the townspeople are mad at michael shannon because he fooled them

[44:47] and judy greer says hey his store is the center of our town and you know what let's look at this

[44:52] ledger where he wrote down everyone's names that they could pay him back the ledger is empty he

[44:57] was never going to ask them to pay it back he was doing just doing it from the kindness of his

[45:00] strange hitman in disguise heart uh and and then maynard goes on live tv and is interviewed about

[45:06] it and talks about he just wanted to help the town and give people hope and everyone's like oh

[45:10] yeah and the and there's a reporter who appears a couple times and the joke is just that she has a

[45:14] latin name that she says with an accent yeah it's one of these things where it's like this is not

[45:19] really a joke uh it's kind of weird to keep hitting this so hard everyone apologizes to

[45:24] maynard in a real rip-off of the scene from it's a wonderful life ron perlman i think even says

[45:29] here's to maynard the richest man in town and people are like it's a christmas miracle oh it's

[45:33] great this is the only reason why this place is called pottersville i guess is because they

[45:37] reenact this it's a wonderful life thing even though potterville was the evil version of

[45:41] of that town what makes me wonder is this set in the in the pottersville universe where yeah

[45:47] where uh where george bailey did kill himself didn't never was never born or did or died when

[45:53] he was a kid and it turned to evil pottersville did that evolve into this town because then i

[45:58] kind of yeah so what is it what happened uh yeah it's the same universe uh guys i gotta i gotta

[46:05] Mr. Potter up in City Hall.

[46:07] Because I've never seen It's a Wonderful Life.

[46:09] Now, I'm assuming the name is sarcastic, right?

[46:17] It's like Board of the USA or something.

[46:19] I mean, for much of the movie, it kind of is.

[46:22] Most of the movie is about how George Bailey's life

[46:24] did not live up to his hopes for it.

[46:26] He's had to really compromise.

[46:27] And then at the end, it's like,

[46:29] no, I do like these things, and I'm important.

[46:30] Without me, the world would fall apart.

[46:32] So I'll carry these disappointments.

[46:34] I'll carry them on my shoulders like my own cross, and I'll suffer, and I'll allow the world to scourge me so that it can live on and be better.

[46:41] And at the end, everyone's happy.

[46:43] But it's kind of a dark movie for a lot of it.

[46:44] But it makes me wonder, is the movie even darker?

[46:46] Is all the stuff at the end where George Bailey is like, Merry Christmas, you wonderful old savings and loan, is that all going through his mind as he drowns after jumping off the bridge?

[46:55] And actually, his life was like, oh, that's all just what he – it's a real Owl Creek Bridge type thing where all that stuff is just his last moments of fantasy.

[47:05] But in reality, in real life, what happened next was George Bailey's body was fished out of the river at Bedford Falls and Potter took over the town leading to Potter'sville starring Michael Shannon.

[47:16] Leaving the town uniquely susceptible to a fake Bigfooting.

[47:22] So George Bailey's life really was important because without him, we got this movie.

[47:26] You got to – there's a different version of this called Bedford Falls where Bigfoot's running around and people are like, Bigfoot, Bigfoot.

[47:32] And elderly Jimmy Stewart is like, will you open your damn eyes?

[47:34] It's clearly Maynard in a costume.

[47:36] Come on.

[47:37] Well, I can't believe how you're so excited about this Bigfoot.

[47:41] Anyway, Christina Hendricks now, she's really turned on by Maynard's importance to the community and she's excited.

[47:47] And she's like, hey, maybe we can get back together and you can put on that gorilla costume again.

[47:51] And Maynard says, no, I don't think we're right.

[47:53] I think we should split up.

[47:54] And then he asks out Judy Greer.

[47:56] He says, hey, should we still have that movie at your house?

[47:58] Because earlier on, she was like, want to have a movie at my house?

[48:01] We can make popcorn.

[48:01] And it's so clear that she's saying, like, you should come to my house so we could do it.

[48:05] By the way, the scene where Maynard rejects Christina Hendricks' character is, like, it happens, like, right after everyone's like, you're the richest man in town.

[48:16] And they're all just still standing around.

[48:18] And it feels like the most awkward thing to me.

[48:20] I was like, I'm going to break off our marriage while everyone in town looks on.

[48:24] Well, they were going to find out about it eventually, right?

[48:27] It's a small town.

[48:28] But you're right.

[48:29] It's weird that he doesn't say, hey, let's step into the back room or something like that.

[48:32] No, he wants to publicly shame her.

[48:35] And now here's the moment where, okay, this movie, I haven't loved it.

[48:39] I found it a little weird.

[48:40] I found the furry joke stuff off-putting.

[48:42] Yeah.

[48:43] Here's where the movie made me really angry in just like a sentence.

[48:47] is they go uh there's a tv report and it says like uh thomas len you know uh brock masterson

[48:55] or brock whatever his name is brock's lawsuit has been dropped as it turns out it's been revealed

[49:00] he is not australia he's actually actor lenny abramowitz from coney island and they fire him

[49:07] and it was like oh and and he's and now he's fired from his job and he is an exile from he's a he's

[49:13] a fraud himself and it was like oh i get it because he's fucking jewish that's what it is

[49:17] he's lenny abramowitz from coney island so he's a stupid new york jew who thought he could fool

[49:23] all these good-hearted christians kick him out burn him at the stake and it made me so mad i got

[49:28] so mad and i know that they were probably just like lenny abramowitz is a funny name like let's

[49:33] do that but it was like the this became a christmas movie in the most hateful way in one sentence

[49:38] where it was like we love it christmas is great we're all pals this is wonderful get this jew out

[49:43] of here get this idiot get this asshole lying jew tried to cheat all of us out of here this new york

[49:49] jew get him out and i was like movie i hate you now it was like i had never turned on a movie so

[49:54] quickly since the movie hell in the pacific which is a great movie until the very end when it just

[49:58] kind of craps out and stops but this i like i was like you know a movie i don't particularly like

[50:03] you but you're not hurting me in any way and then they were like lenny abramowitz from coney island

[50:07] And the guy goes, that doesn't sound like an Australian name.

[50:09] And he's like, fuck you, dude.

[50:10] There's Jews in Australia.

[50:11] Like, go to hell.

[50:12] He could be Australian, asshole.

[50:14] Like, I'm sorry.

[50:15] I'm sorry for the swearing.

[50:16] Dan, put an explicit language warning on this one.

[50:18] Okay.

[50:18] Yeah.

[50:19] But it just made me so mad.

[50:20] After nearly 300 episodes, I was finally.

[50:23] Please.

[50:23] Yeah, and I mean, Elliot, but don't worry.

[50:27] Thomas Lennon's character also gets choked out by a security guard in that same sequence.

[50:32] Oh, yeah.

[50:33] Well, once it's clear that he's Jewish, like since he's less than human, just beat him up.

[50:38] Throw him away.

[50:38] It just made me so mad.

[50:40] It was like – and it's just – it's one of those things where I'm sure they did not mean to be like, this guy's Jewish.

[50:47] Kick him out of our Christmas movie.

[50:48] But it just shows how like – it's similar with the furry thing.

[50:51] It's super thoughtless.

[50:53] Yeah, it's thoughtless.

[50:54] This furry stuff will be funny.

[50:55] Oh, you know what?

[50:56] We'll give him a silly Jewish name and then we'll beat him up.

[50:58] And it's like, oh, come on.

[51:00] Think about what you're doing, dudes, especially in like a Christmas movie.

[51:03] Look, guys, maybe I'm just sensitive because I'm already getting ready for that time of year when I have to deal with everyone else's Christmas junk.

[51:09] And I'm going to have my son asking me Christmas questions I don't want to deal with, as we mentioned in previous episodes.

[51:14] We went to a thing yesterday in L.A. called the Elves Fair.

[51:18] And I was like, I don't want to go to this.

[51:21] But it turns out it was like a it's like a Ren Fest type thing.

[51:23] So it was cool.

[51:24] It was actually like Legolas.

[51:26] It was what?

[51:27] It's like a bunch of Legolas.

[51:29] Tons of Legolas.

[51:30] But they did have one kind of like.

[51:32] And Sammy's like, Dad, Dada, Dada, can you buy me some lembas bread?

[51:37] And you're like, no, if you eat that shit, you won't have room for dinner.

[51:42] But they did have one guy who's kind of like a medieval,

[51:45] medievally pagan kind of like nature Santa Claus.

[51:48] And I was like, Sammy, we are not walking over to that guy.

[51:51] Forget it.

[51:51] If he called himself Merlin.

[51:53] Yes.

[51:53] Let's talk to him.

[51:54] Give him 100 tickets.

[51:55] Each ticket cost me a dollar.

[51:57] But sure, give him 10 tickets just to talk to him so he can give you a present that I could buy you in the store for $1.50.

[52:02] But yes, talk to him.

[52:03] But if he calls himself Santa Claus, get out of here.

[52:05] We're not doing this.

[52:05] But maybe that's why I'm just sensitive about it, guys, is I know I'm entering the Christmas corridor of the year.

[52:11] You're bracing for that stuff.

[52:15] I'm ultra sensitive to it right now, like a particularly thin condom.

[52:20] So anyway.

[52:20] I've often said you're like a particularly thin condom.

[52:24] Yeah.

[52:26] But guys, aside from that one Jew who was rightfully kicked out of the public square and exiled from the community, sent back to Coney Island where he belongs.

[52:34] Look, go sell some cheesecake to somebody.

[52:36] The town opens a Bigfoot museum and Maynard and Judy Greer kiss.

[52:42] And then I think it's implied that they hear a real Bigfoot roar at the end.

[52:45] But I couldn't quite figure out what the sound effect was.

[52:48] I had to literally rewind to watch it again because in the background, you hear kind of like, ah, and they look off to the side with surprised looks on their faces, and then it cuts to credits.

[52:57] And I was like, I know from filmic grammar that the joke is maybe there is a real Bigfoot, but it's done in such a half-assed way that it's like, did someone slip and fall because it's getting icy out?

[53:08] Like, what happened?

[53:09] Yeah, it's as abrupt a cut as the end of An American Werewolf in London.

[53:13] Like, it just, boom, credits.

[53:16] There's no moment where they, like, look at each other like, did you hear that?

[53:19] Uh-huh.

[53:20] They didn't go, here we go again.

[53:22] Yeah.

[53:23] And then put on baseball caps.

[53:24] Yeah, I think they were going for, I think Pottersville was going for, like, end of the

[53:31] Sopranos type thing.

[53:32] Oh, I see.

[53:33] I get it.

[53:33] That's why they're playing Don't Stop Believin' at the same time.

[53:36] I understand.

[53:36] Yeah.

[53:37] All right.

[53:39] So, guys, we've gone surprisingly long considering that.

[53:42] Do we go longer than the movie yet?

[53:45] Not this time.

[53:46] Okay, let's fill it up.

[53:47] I'm sure the episode will be, but...

[53:49] But we should do our final judgments.

[53:50] Is this a good, bad movie, a bad, bad movie,

[53:53] or a movie you kind of like?

[53:54] I'm going to go to Stuart.

[53:55] What do you have to say?

[53:57] Oh, I'm going to go to Elliot.

[53:59] What's Elliot going to say?

[54:01] I think it's time for a Dan-o-gram.

[54:04] Okay, I guess I'll start then.

[54:07] I don't know.

[54:10] This is a weird one.

[54:11] It sags a lot in the middle, like a lot, a lot.

[54:16] it just i'm not entertained at all by the thomas lennon character's antics and i'm just confused

[54:23] by why the movie sort of grinds to a halt there so it's it's pretty bad but at the same time

[54:30] i kind of enjoyed watching it because it was so baffling baffling and strange and i don't know i

[54:37] don't know who thought this plot was great let alone why all these great actors decided to sign

[54:41] on so i'll give it a marginal good bad i guess uh yeah i don't know like the first 15 minutes i got

[54:50] kind of excited for what seemed to be like a fun good bad movie and then it just kept drag like

[54:56] it's so monotonous yeah and it it just didn't do it like it i i don't think this is a fun one to

[55:03] watch with people yeah it kind of it has it it has that promise to me i had the same experience

[55:09] you guys were head we're in the beginning i was like okay this is gonna be weird this is gonna be

[55:13] and i but i didn't and i didn't find it that unpleasant but then it it just kept it then it

[55:19] yet really started for a movie that's less than an hour and a half long it really drags and then

[55:23] at the end they just decided to flip the bird to my heritage and uh and my my faith so i didn't

[55:28] like that part but uh yeah but there were times in the beginning of the movie where i'm like you

[55:34] know what i could see this becoming almost a movie i kind of like and it just didn't it's almost i'm

[55:38] Almost more the disappointment from that, from it not fulfilling that.

[55:41] I'm going to make it bad, bad.

[55:43] But it's one of those movies where, like, honestly, I could see you watching this with

[55:47] an elderly member of your family on Christmas when you've run out of things to talk about

[55:51] and everything would be fine, you know?

[55:55] Yeah.

[55:55] As long as they were, you didn't have to answer too many questions about furries afterwards.

[56:04] Hey, if you like your podcast to be focused and well-researched and your podcast host to be uncharismatic, unhorny strangers who have no interest in horses, then this is not the podcast for you.

[56:14] Yeah, and what's your deal?

[56:15] I'm Emily.

[56:17] I'm Lisa.

[56:18] Our show's called Baby Geniuses.

[56:19] And its hosts are horny adult idiots.

[56:21] We discover weird Wikipedia pages every episode.

[56:24] We discuss institutional misogyny.

[56:27] We ask each other the dumbest questions and our listeners won't stop sending us pictures of their butts.

[56:31] We haven't asked them to stop, but they also aren't stopping.

[56:34] Join us on Baby Geniuses every other week on MaximumFun.org.

[56:38] I'm bailiff Jesse Thorne, and I'm Judge John Hodgman.

[56:49] If you live on the West Coast of North America, we're coming your way.

[56:53] That's right, Judge John Hodgman is taking justice to the West Coast on tour.

[56:57] Starting where?

[56:58] Vancouver, British Columbia, January 15th.

[57:01] Then to Seattle, Washington on the 16th.

[57:04] Portland, Oregon on the 17th, San Francisco, California on the 18th,

[57:08] and Los Angeles, California, the City of Angels, on January 22nd.

[57:13] Tickets are on sale now.

[57:15] You can find links to all of the shows at MaximumFun.org.

[57:19] And if you're going to be in one of those cities and you have a dispute, we can try on stage.

[57:25] Send it to us.

[57:26] Just go to MaximumFun.org slash JJHO or email Hodgman at MaximumFun.org.

[57:34] I'm ready to judge you on the road.

[57:36] Take that, Jack Kerouac, author of On the Road.

[57:41] Hey guys, it's Dan with a solo ad read.

[57:50] Now listen to me.

[57:51] I just spent five minutes recording a solo ad read into the wrong microphone.

[57:56] That's right.

[57:58] I was sitting here yammering to myself to one of two microphones, the wrong one, the one that was not optimized on my digital recorder.

[58:07] So that's work out the window.

[58:12] And you're going to get a less good solo ad read because of it.

[58:16] I had a whole theme song that I started with.

[58:20] I talked about coffee for no reason.

[58:22] It was a beautiful thing.

[58:25] and now it's lost to the winds oh oh the things i've seen death ships off the coast of whatever

[58:34] just like blade runner i don't know i don't know that if if elliot or stewart were here they could

[58:38] recite the whole fucking monologue but i'm not that guy i'm the guy who's sitting here angrily

[58:44] uh kicking himself because he just did the stupidest thing possible and talked into the

[58:52] wrong microphone. Yes. How does it happen? I don't know. But apparently I should have

[58:59] had the coffee earlier in the solo ad read. Ah. Anyway, let's take my bitterness and

[59:11] fuel it into commerce. Listen, you know what's not smart? Job boards that overwhelm you with

[59:19] tons of the wrong resumes. Oh, so many bad resumes. I'm drowning in bad resumes. They're

[59:25] attacking me like they're the blob and I'm a thing that the blob eats. But luckily, there's a

[59:30] smarter way to hire at ZipRecruiter. ZipRecruiter's powerful matching technology finds the right

[59:35] people for you and actively invites them to apply. Now, I know what you're thinking. What if ZipRecruiter

[59:41] invites a vampire to apply? Because if a vampire isn't invited to apply, it won't apply for your

[59:48] job that's just the way vampires work now i'm sure that zip recruiter has some sort of mechanism to

[59:53] filter out vampires i haven't talked to them about this but uh you know if they're compliant with all

[59:59] local rules and regulations i'm sure that that's not a problem uh look it's no it's no wonder that

[1:00:05] zip recruiter is rated number one by employers in the u.s this rating comes from hiring sites

[1:00:09] on trustpilot with over 1 000 reviews and right now our listeners can try zip recruiter for free

[1:00:15] At ZipRecruiter.com

[1:00:17] Slash Flophouse

[1:00:18] If you love this show

[1:00:20] Show your support to it

[1:00:22] And to ZipRecruiter

[1:00:23] By going to ZipRecruiter.com

[1:00:25] Slash F-L-O-P-H-O-U-S-E

[1:00:29] Flophouse

[1:00:32] Guys

[1:00:34] Can you feel it?

[1:00:36] I'm faking it

[1:00:36] I'm faking the energy

[1:00:37] I had it before

[1:00:39] It was a thing of beauty

[1:00:41] It was a joy forever

[1:00:44] You know

[1:00:45] These things are

[1:00:47] Like usually an organic descent

[1:00:50] Into madness

[1:00:51] Now I'm pushing the madness

[1:00:53] Now I'm forcing the madness through me

[1:00:56] The madness is being

[1:00:57] Pulled out of me with forceps

[1:00:59] And I can't do it

[1:01:01] Let me get some of this coffee

[1:01:03] That's what people like to hear, right?

[1:01:07] Slurping

[1:01:08] People tune into podcasts for slurping

[1:01:11] Coffee Foley

[1:01:13] Let's talk about Squarespace

[1:01:15] shall we with squarespace you can create a beautiful website to sell products and services

[1:01:21] of all kinds promote your physical or online business announce an upcoming event or special

[1:01:26] project and much much more what else who knows what do people do on the internet anyway aside

[1:01:33] from put out stupid podcasts what i don't know you figure it out all right why are you why are

[1:01:40] coming to ask me what to do with your squarespace site you figure it out okay jesus like i don't

[1:01:46] have enough problems i'm dan mccoy you know i've got problems squarespace does all this thing

[1:01:52] squarespace does the things that i said before by giving you beautiful customizable templates

[1:02:00] created by world-class designers powerful e-commerce functionality that lets you sell

[1:02:05] anything online analytics that help you grow in real time built-in search engine optimization

[1:02:11] nothing to patch or upgrade ever ever ever and 24 7 award-winning customer support make it stand

[1:02:23] out with a beautiful website from squarespace head to squarespace.com slash flop for a free trial and

[1:02:29] when you're ready to launch, use the offer code FLOP to save 10% off your first purchase of a

[1:02:36] website or domain. Now, come on, guys. Here's the thing. Here's another thing. There's no

[1:02:44] Jumbotrons this week. And you know how that makes me feel? It makes me feel lonely. I'm already

[1:02:48] alone. I'm literally alone in my apartment talking to myself. And now I got no Jumbotrons either.

[1:02:56] What's that all about?

[1:02:57] If you want to get your message out to the world via the Jumbotron, you can do it by going to MaximumFun.org slash Jumbotron.

[1:03:06] Toss a few dollars our way, and you can get a personal message or a business message out to our listeners.

[1:03:12] And you can see just by the way I talk, you know, like how effective a pitch man I am.

[1:03:20] My dulcet tones are like the Pied Piper luring people into commerce or if you've got a personal message, what better way to get across your love than the monotonal sounds of a 40-year-old man sitting alone with his cat?

[1:03:46] What more could any woman or man or non-binary person ask for in a love message than to have it delivered by me, Dan McCoy?

[1:03:58] Huh?

[1:04:00] All right.

[1:04:02] Enough of this banter.

[1:04:03] Let's get back to the show.

[1:04:05] Do we have anything to plug?

[1:04:06] I forget.

[1:04:06] Well, we have our live show in January.

[1:04:09] Okay.

[1:04:09] So we should plug that.

[1:04:11] We should plug that on January 26th, Saturday at 8 p.m., we'll be in Wisconsin.

[1:04:16] That's right.

[1:04:17] The University of Wisconsin-Madison has us three knuckleheads coming by.

[1:04:21] We're going to do a live taping of our show.

[1:04:23] We haven't decided on the movie yet, have we?

[1:04:25] I don't think yet we have.

[1:04:29] But we will announce it when we do.

[1:04:30] We usually try and do a bigger movie at our live shows, just so there's a bigger chance that people may have actually seen what we're talking about.

[1:04:39] So that's right.

[1:04:40] Pottersville.

[1:04:41] so I don't know

[1:04:44] we'll have to think of whether there's been any

[1:04:46] particularly bad blockbusters lately

[1:04:48] well that's weird

[1:04:50] Hollywood never makes bad blockbusters

[1:04:52] so that's Saturday

[1:04:54] January 26th at the University of

[1:04:56] Wisconsin-Madison tickets I think are still available

[1:04:58] you can if you go to

[1:05:00] union.wisc.edu

[1:05:03] and go to their events

[1:05:04] and activities calendar you'll find us

[1:05:06] in January buy some tickets why don't you

[1:05:08] and let me just plug again for myself

[1:05:10] my book my book horse meets dog is out there a great gift for kids christmas is coming up or

[1:05:15] hanukkah or whatever you celebrate so why not even if you don't have a holiday to celebrate what if

[1:05:20] you're an atheist what if you're jova's witness and you don't celebrate holidays that's fine still

[1:05:24] buy a copy of the book give it to a kid throw it in a fireplace i don't care as long as you pay for

[1:05:29] it and i get some of that sweet dollars uh but i'd prefer you buy it and give it to a child or

[1:05:33] read it to a child not throw it in a fireplace i don't know i mean it looks pretty burnable

[1:05:39] It is very burnable.

[1:05:40] It's made of paper.

[1:05:41] And so it's incredibly flammable.

[1:05:43] If you get the room to 451 degrees Fahrenheit, it will burst into flame on its own.

[1:05:47] And so just don't do that.

[1:05:50] But horsemeat's dog in stores now.

[1:05:52] Thank you for answering that literary question for me, too.

[1:05:56] Because I was always like, I bet books burn at way lower temperatures than 451 degrees Fahrenheit.

[1:06:06] but I didn't know that it was when it would burst into flame sort of on its own.

[1:06:10] I'm not sure if it's – it's the temperature at which paper burns.

[1:06:13] Okay.

[1:06:14] So the flame has to get it to that heat,

[1:06:18] but I'm sure if it was in a room, it would burst into flame at that heat.

[1:06:21] But that's the temperature at which it burns.

[1:06:22] Okay.

[1:06:23] So that wouldn't happen in my home because, as you know,

[1:06:27] I always keep my home at a cool 98 degrees.

[1:06:30] Oh, no, no.

[1:06:33] Stuart, you don't know, the inside of your mouth is a blistering 98.6 degrees.

[1:06:37] I used to love those commercials.

[1:06:39] Is that why that band is named 98 Degrees?

[1:06:41] Because that's the temperature of the inside of a human mouth?

[1:06:43] Yeah, I mean, that's the temperature of a human body.

[1:06:45] So it's the hottest you can get and not be unhealthy.

[1:06:48] But I used to love those ads for whatever it was, Dentine Ice or something.

[1:06:52] Where they'd be like, the inside of your mouth is blisteringly hot.

[1:06:56] And it's like, well, that's the temperature it should be.

[1:06:58] Yeah, I'm not walking around the whole day like, ow.

[1:07:02] My tongue is so sweaty

[1:07:05] It's kind of like those commercials

[1:07:07] Where they're like do you have low T

[1:07:09] You can't play basketball the way you once could

[1:07:11] And it's like well they're aging

[1:07:13] That's what the thing is

[1:07:14] When they're dealing with his age

[1:07:15] Let's move on to letters

[1:07:18] Let's do it let's move on to letters

[1:07:20] Letters from listeners

[1:07:22] Listeners like you

[1:07:23] It's the first letter

[1:07:25] It's the most letterful time of the year

[1:07:29] All the letters are flying

[1:07:31] and everyone's dying don't open those letters they're full of germs okay oh wow it was a real

[1:07:42] warning it was a real warning about uh i guess d about making your sterilizing your mail before

[1:07:48] you open it uh this first letter is from tom last name with hell thomas lennon uh-oh look i'm a big

[1:07:56] fan just because i didn't like this one movie i'm still a fan he says what it do floppasaurus rexes

[1:08:02] a few years back i finally re-watched poltergeist as an adult and realized that i generated false

[1:08:08] memories about how the movie played out for whatever reason as a child i was certain that

[1:08:13] when the tree tries to eat the kid being partially swallowed by hardwood crushed and broke his legs

[1:08:18] this of course did not happen in that pg rated movie i have a similar false memory about jurassic

[1:08:24] park namely that the boy child has his legs crushed and broken one of the upside down car

[1:08:30] being stopped and stepped on by the t-rex everybody lock up your legs this is how a leg killer starts

[1:08:36] but this false memory didn't last as long because of course they didn't go as long without getting

[1:08:41] back into jurassic park jurassic park is fucking rad also soapbox and let's just not try and figure

[1:08:48] out why they uh both involve little boy's legs being broken i'm sure there's some kind of freud

[1:08:53] shit going on there but i'm gonna go ahead and not poke that bear anyway my question have you

[1:08:59] ever generated any false memories about a movie without well after having gone a long time without

[1:09:03] seeing it if so what were they you guys are great wonderful and thanks for doing podcasts at my ear

[1:09:08] holes love you tom last name withheld uh have you generated false memories about movies i thought

[1:09:15] this was an interesting letter so i decided to read it but i actually don't have an answer thanks

[1:09:19] for your thinking behind that dan uh i have so i i don't the closest thing to that is that uh for a

[1:09:26] long time i thought that anthony edwards was the supporting player in outbreak and not kevin spacey

[1:09:33] and i think it's just because he looked a lot like anthony edwards in it uh as i think i mentioned

[1:09:38] on the podcast before that when i was a kid some another kid described the movie high spirits to me

[1:09:44] and described it in a brutally violent way that i wonder what was going on in that kid's head and i

[1:09:49] wonder if this is the same person as the letter writer yeah yeah maybe not well i mean if you

[1:09:54] look at the the vhx vhs box art for high spirits with like painted on steve gutenberg and peter

[1:10:01] o'toole you're like this has got to be fucking brutal uh no actually so this is an interesting

[1:10:08] question but you know uh i have never misremembered anything in a movie ever and if you go through our

[1:10:14] back catalog of the podcast you'll see that that checks out certainly never anything that involves

[1:10:21] the injuring or mutilation of a character no i mean of course not uh i think i already said

[1:10:26] nothing ever so i guess i don't know why you're being specific uh here's my question here's

[1:10:31] something i the movie baby uh secret of the lost legend uh now i have a memory as a kid of the two

[1:10:39] of the characters in that trying to have sex and the bait and the dinosaur keeps interrupting them

[1:10:43] is that a real scene do you guys remember this movie no i think that's that's a scene from that

[1:10:48] uh punisher and wolverine crossover with the dinosaurs where punisher and wolverine try to

[1:10:53] have sex with that sick jim lee artwork i mean it's amazing oh yeah yeah it was savage something

[1:11:00] in the savage times in the savage land or whatever it's called yeah sure i mean i think they're in

[1:11:04] like brazil or something like that's wild that they uh whatever man like what's punisher doing

[1:11:10] with fucking dinosaurs dude punishing them i suppose the punisher doesn't punch people dan

[1:11:18] you know what i said punishing oh punishing i thought you said punching okay no then i was

[1:11:23] like big old guns for everything yeah exactly uh so people write into the flop house for the

[1:11:31] baby the last dinosaur mystery because i'm not watching that movie again so tell me if i

[1:11:35] remembered it incorrectly dan uh this next letter is from jessica last name withheld jessica lang

[1:11:42] uh wow legend i thought you were gonna go rabbit interesting yeah yeah i mean i i was gonna go with

[1:11:49] a like a actual person instead of a cartoon okay i didn't know there were such strict rules

[1:11:56] stewart decided to recognize a true legend an icon of the screen as opposed to what the the

[1:12:02] sex character that you imagine all the time this animated lady yeah um anyway jessica writes i love

[1:12:10] horror movies and while some have definitely scared me or stuck with me a long time they don't give me

[1:12:14] nightmares for some reason the only movie that has ever given me nightmares is the 1990 classic

[1:12:20] horror comedy tremors i have no idea why this movie gives me nightmares every time i watch it

[1:12:25] because there's absolutely nothing scary in this movie peaches have there ever been a movie that

[1:12:29] has given you nightmares even though there was nothing about it that scared you just want to

[1:12:33] just want to point out that tremors is awesome uh xoxo jessica uh she has a postscript for elliot

[1:12:41] my all-time favorite movie is clue so every time elliot says to make a long story short i always

[1:12:45] add it too late that has nothing to do with the question i just thought elliot should know oh

[1:12:49] that's very nice i'm glad to hear that that's a hilarious movie guys when uh when tremors came

[1:12:53] out uh and i watched it all the time uh my little brother and i would play a game where we uh were

[1:13:00] there were tremors under the floor of our basement and we couldn't touch the floor do you guys play

[1:13:04] that game no but that sounds fun yeah it was really fun it does sound fun uh what about you

[1:13:10] guys have you ever had nightmares from non-scary movies uh i mean i remember seeing return of the

[1:13:16] living dead part two at a young age and look watching it now it is not scary it's hilarious

[1:13:20] but i guess i was scared at the time and it gave me nightmares uh and i don't know if i mentioned

[1:13:25] this on the podcast but uh i don't find the movie mother to be scary but that is the uh that is the

[1:13:33] closest approximation to my bartending stress dreams in a movie i've ever seen it's like the

[1:13:38] idea of not getting off the bar and it crashing yeah well the idea of like like the bartending

[1:13:44] stress dream of always like it's like just before four and people keep coming in and they won't

[1:13:50] leave and like i have to change a keg and when i come back somebody's pouring their own beer

[1:13:54] that's basically the movie mother in my head there's that scene in mother where they were

[1:13:59] they will not stop sitting on the sink and they keep getting back on it when she's like that

[1:14:03] it that makes me so yeah like anxious that movie i love that movie so much it makes me so

[1:14:08] uncomfortable uh for me i you know because i have uh sleep apnea i rarely sleep deeply enough to

[1:14:17] dream i mean i i i for whatever reason i dream when i'm coming out of sleep a little bit but i

[1:14:24] i very rarely remember having nightmares like i get stress dreams about stuff that actually

[1:14:30] happens in my life but i don't think i get affected by like movies that way yeah most of

[1:14:36] my nightmares have been based on have been not necessarily based on real life events but have

[1:14:41] been not based on movies like i've had a couple nightmares that were so horrifying that i feel

[1:14:46] like i can't tell anyone about them because he would be admitting that those things came out of

[1:14:50] my head and my own imagination and i'm not clive barker where i'm like gonna brag about that stuff

[1:14:55] i'm a i'm a functioning member of society who doesn't want to sign people's blood or whatever

[1:14:59] but uh i mean clive barker is probably a fine person but uh i did i will tell you i once had

[1:15:05] a nightmare that involved the hobo character from the twilight zone episode the uh five characters

[1:15:09] in search of an exit which is kind of a creepy episode but it's not like scary and if you'd like

[1:15:15] i can tell you a story about elliot past as a little kid and a dream i had when i was in

[1:15:21] kindergarten i had a hernia operation because who knows my body was very frail and i remember so

[1:15:27] vividly the dream i had you were uh you were a power lifter as a kid right yeah exactly well

[1:15:32] the problem was i thought i was a power lifter but i just wasn't ready for it yet and when i

[1:15:35] was competing once i did i did a like a deadlift that was just too and too intense yeah yeah yeah

[1:15:41] you just you crushed a quart of milk and you're like i'm doing this yeah yeah exactly uh but i

[1:15:47] had when i was under for that operation i remember so vividly dreaming that the operation was going

[1:15:52] on in a big viking long boat that was going over a waterfall and straddling the waterfall like a

[1:15:58] colossus was the tin man from wizard of oz and he was singing to us and it was so frightening to me

[1:16:03] because i was like i'm already having surgery done and the tin man could crush me at any moment

[1:16:08] like this is so frightening and i've never been scared of the wizard of oz and i just that that

[1:16:12] dream has always stuck with me you know i think i was four at the time and it's that it like that

[1:16:17] moment of fright of like this thing could crush me right now and i couldn't do anything about it

[1:16:21] still very vivid to me can i briefly this is not movie related but uh briefly tell you the

[1:16:26] the dream that has haunted me the most yeah sure i had a dream that like years ago dreams in the

[1:16:32] flop house by hp lovecraft yeah i had a dream that years ago that i along with some other people

[1:16:40] murdered someone and then covered it up and that it has like i can't believe i can't believe you're

[1:16:47] talking about this on the podcast dan dan that wasn't a dream no no but it's like haunted me

[1:16:53] ever since like the thing was like i woke up and then it was one of these things where i was just

[1:16:58] like is that memory false like did i kill someone why are there all these leaves in my bed yeah is

[1:17:06] it real or did weapon x implant that in me yeah so i i like walked around for a day with like this

[1:17:11] horrifying like disquieting guilt like i was like that's great i had the opposite experience where

[1:17:18] i had a dream that i killed a friend of mine and the and they found me guilty and it was and one

[1:17:25] of the exhibits that was on the table in the courtroom was his skin they had skinned him

[1:17:28] and just pot and just folded it up like like laundered sheets and put it on there and they

[1:17:34] found me guilty and sentenced me to life in jail and i was like that's it my life is over i'm gonna

[1:17:37] spend the rest of my life in prison and i woke up and was like i'm going to jail no i'm not wait a

[1:17:42] minute that was a dream it was the best i've ever felt in my entire life it's like ah i have my

[1:17:47] whole life ahead of me this is wonderful it was so great uh this last letter is from katherine

[1:17:53] last name withheld.

[1:17:54] Of Aragon.

[1:17:55] Same person.

[1:17:58] Catherine America?

[1:18:00] Of Aragon.

[1:18:01] I thought you were doing a weird pun.

[1:18:05] I have a brief story.

[1:18:07] Catherine America is Captain America's aunt.

[1:18:08] Several years

[1:18:11] ago, I came across a small

[1:18:12] zither in a

[1:18:15] secondhand store. To my surprise

[1:18:17] and delight, it turned out to be a tie-in

[1:18:19] product for the movie The Third Man.

[1:18:21] It was a learn-to-play music

[1:18:23] type instrument with sheets of music

[1:18:25] you could slide under the strings, including

[1:18:27] such zither classics as

[1:18:28] Mary Had a Little Lamb, All Bling

[1:18:31] Zine, and of course the theme from

[1:18:33] The Third Man. I purchased it

[1:18:35] and gave it to my brother. Similarly, an easy

[1:18:36] classic song. Yeah.

[1:18:38] I purchased it and gave it to my brother,

[1:18:40] the person who first told me about the movie

[1:18:43] and its all-zither score.

[1:18:44] That Christmas morning, all activity came to a

[1:18:47] stop as we all tried to figure out

[1:18:48] who the target market was. Children

[1:18:51] who enjoy zither music and gritty post-war

[1:18:53] thrillers?

[1:18:53] My question is this. What is your favorite movie tie-in

[1:18:56] product? Thank you for all that you do

[1:18:59] and apologies to Dan for writing zither

[1:19:00] so many times. Oh no, I did it again.

[1:19:02] Zither's not such a hard word to say.

[1:19:04] I just want to say, one, I love

[1:19:09] The Third Man. Anyone who's listening to this who's never seen

[1:19:11] The Third Man, go watch it. It's such an amazing movie.

[1:19:13] It's so good and the score is

[1:19:15] so good with all the zither in it.

[1:19:16] I guess my favorite

[1:19:19] movie tie-in is whatever

[1:19:20] huge heaping of crappy food Matt Singer

[1:19:23] has to eat.

[1:19:24] Your favorite thing

[1:19:27] is the thing that will slowly kill our friend

[1:19:29] Matt Singer. I don't want him to die

[1:19:31] but I still think

[1:19:33] it's hilarious that every time they announce

[1:19:35] a movie tie-in meal menu, he's like

[1:19:37] oh, I've got to do it. Oh, no.

[1:19:39] And there are like hordes

[1:19:41] of people on Twitter who are

[1:19:43] cheering for this.

[1:19:44] I think you need to explain it a little more

[1:19:47] in that if a movie comes out like

[1:19:49] the incredible hulk has like a full menu at denny's or something like that green waffles

[1:19:55] and all this other crap you know i mean that's what's happening with the grinch time menu is all

[1:19:59] the green shit yeah and so matt singer goes out and he eats everything on those menus uh-huh in

[1:20:06] one sitting he eats everything and it's all for some an article i guess over at screen crush yeah

[1:20:12] yeah yeah it's he's really killing himself so it's all worth it very little payoff yeah but i kind of

[1:20:18] miswent it seems like those meals are the really the only big movie tie-ins left that i see at

[1:20:23] least other than like merchandising for children's movies and i remember when we were young it was

[1:20:27] like every big movie had tie-ins like and i think about the robin hood prince of thieves cereal

[1:20:32] that came out and like there was everything had so much tie-in stuff and now the best you can get is

[1:20:38] a bag of oranges they'll slap a picture of bb-8 on it like that's that's supposed to be a movie

[1:20:43] tie in i don't know what do you guys think i remember i had a full set of uh the the smaller

[1:20:49] records the ones with like the big hole in the middle i forget which uh 33s are those is that

[1:20:54] i had a full set of gremlins uh records that just told the story of the movie gremlins yeah i remember

[1:21:01] those yeah i don't i don't remember where they came they come with they come with like a little

[1:21:05] picture book too i think so yeah yeah there were two picture books that told the story of gremlins

[1:21:11] together and i think they came with those i i remember playing that so many times that my mom

[1:21:17] would always quote like the beginning of one of them which was kate and billy so that was my mom's

[1:21:25] all-purpose just like uh exclamation that and she would also call meat roast nebri after uh the dark

[1:21:33] crystal so that's uh how you be a good mom i guess cool mom cool mom uh yeah the i'm trying to

[1:21:41] remember i loved i i was always chasing a full set of the uh gremlins 2 collectible cards those

[1:21:48] were awesome uh and i mean ecto cooler i mean come on sure yeah it's a beverage how can you not it

[1:21:56] exists i remember at the time uh last action hero came out i think there was a series of cut glass

[1:22:02] mugs featuring scenes from last action hero that mcdonald's or burger king had and looking back

[1:22:07] is just like i really want to see those again i'm gonna have to look them up on the internet

[1:22:11] because that seems like a crazy thing for someone to have had to have made yeah these are not um

[1:22:18] this is not a movie tie-in but i just this just sparked a memory of my mom uh has these beloved

[1:22:24] uh dairy queen christmas glasses that they put out when i was young i had to bring up christmas

[1:22:31] again and we went to dairy it's the season and we went to dairy queen so much to get like a full set

[1:22:37] of these little glasses, and my brother

[1:22:39] found a bunch of extra on eBay

[1:22:41] a few years back and gave it to her, but I just

[1:22:43] thought it was so funny that my mom was so

[1:22:45] intent on collecting a set

[1:22:47] of these little glasses.

[1:22:48] And were you guys going to DQ just for the

[1:22:51] frozen treats, or were you also going for the Brazier

[1:22:53] hot stuff?

[1:22:54] I think it was frozen treats.

[1:22:56] I mean, that's their signature

[1:22:59] dish. That's their signature item, is the

[1:23:01] frozen stuff. Get some Dilly Bars.

[1:23:07] And every time Dan would go up to the cashier and say,

[1:23:10] is there a Dairy King?

[1:23:11] They're like, sir, you're 12 years old.

[1:23:16] So thanks for all those letters.

[1:23:20] And now we should move on to our final segment,

[1:23:23] which is recommendations.

[1:23:24] Movies that we watched that we would suggest you watch

[1:23:27] instead of Pottersville.

[1:23:28] What are you doing, Dan?

[1:23:31] What do you see lately?

[1:23:32] I went to see an Ida Lupino double feature

[1:23:36] at the Film Forum recently.

[1:23:38] And the second movie

[1:23:40] I would not particularly recommend.

[1:23:42] It was Artists Ampersand Models

[1:23:44] to distinguish it from Artists and Models.

[1:23:47] The Tashlin movie.

[1:23:48] The Dean Martin movie?

[1:23:49] Yeah.

[1:23:49] Yeah, there was an earlier one.

[1:23:51] The Don Martin movie?

[1:23:51] The Don Martin movie.

[1:23:54] Mr. Phone Bone's Great Adventure.

[1:23:56] There was an earlier unrelated one

[1:23:58] that had Jack Benny

[1:23:59] and it had like,

[1:23:59] it was interesting.

[1:24:01] They had like a weird cameo

[1:24:02] from Rube Goldberg was in it at one point.

[1:24:05] And they had this long puppet sequence.

[1:24:07] It had these interesting sequences, but it was kind of a boring movie in general.

[1:24:11] So I'm not going for that one.

[1:24:13] Although, you know, if it's on TCM, maybe.

[1:24:15] But the first one was Anything Goes.

[1:24:19] And I will say that Anything Goes is not a great adaptation of the stage musical.

[1:24:24] Because they cut a bunch of the Cole Porter songs.

[1:24:26] Apparently, it was a combination of the Hays Code not liking his saucy lyrics.

[1:24:32] Bing Crosby, who played

[1:24:34] the lead, wanted more

[1:24:36] crooner numbers he could do.

[1:24:38] It makes sense, because the songs

[1:24:40] in, I mean, those are Ethel Merman songs

[1:24:42] in Anything Goes. They're big

[1:24:44] brassy numbers, and

[1:24:46] that's not what, and Bing Crosby was more about

[1:24:48] seducing the microphone. Real intimate.

[1:24:50] Yeah, but then, I mean,

[1:24:52] Cole Porter, possibly

[1:24:54] the greatest songwriter?

[1:24:56] I don't know.

[1:24:56] Yeah, him or Mozart or Beethoven.

[1:25:00] Yeah, sure.

[1:25:00] I wouldn't call those songs.

[1:25:02] What would you call them, dude?

[1:25:04] They're musical compositions.

[1:25:07] They're not songs.

[1:25:08] Oh, boy.

[1:25:09] Wow, I guess I see how you won the hair-splitting competition this year.

[1:25:12] Okay, anyway.

[1:25:13] With the sharpest razor.

[1:25:16] No, I wouldn't replace those beautiful songs with other songs.

[1:25:23] That's a bad thing.

[1:25:24] The plot itself is cut down a fair bit, and it ends in a big racist-by-today-standards Chinese number.

[1:25:34] So I give that warning about the movie.

[1:25:37] I mean, racist by any standards.

[1:25:39] They just didn't care back then.

[1:25:40] Yeah.

[1:25:41] Yeah.

[1:25:41] I do give the movie a lot of credit, though, because what remains of the farcical plot is very funny and well done.

[1:25:53] there's uh i'm looking it up i think his name is charles ruggles yeah charles ruggles plays uh

[1:26:00] moonface martin the gangster in the movie that drives a lot of the plot and he is very funny

[1:26:06] it's a very it's a classic comic performance and uh so i i liked anything he goes solid movie not

[1:26:14] a great adaptation of the musical cool uh i have a movie i'm going to recommend is a movie that

[1:26:24] is in probably isn't in theaters anymore but it is in now when we're recording it but when you're

[1:26:30] listening to it it won't be uh and that's the uh the new suspiria movie uh oh man i love that shit

[1:26:38] i saw it in the theater twice uh it's super long it's like two and a half hours although

[1:26:44] i didn't feel it um it's like artsy it's fucking wild uh yeah it's really great um i'm not a huge

[1:26:53] fan of the original like i like it but you know i don't it's derry argento we i've talked about it

[1:26:59] uh or my relationship with derry argento's work um and uh yeah i just love it so much it creates

[1:27:06] this world that i just like being in and uh yeah it's great go see it i yeah i would have

[1:27:14] recommended this this week but i figured stewart was all over it so uh i didn't but i think it's

[1:27:18] kind of a masterpiece yeah it's it's so good i would have recommended it but i haven't gotten

[1:27:23] to see it yet it's also the movie that like i i've talked to multiple people who have like

[1:27:28] walked out of it which seems crazy to me but whatever yeah to each his own it's a divisive

[1:27:35] movie which i think is people to its credit people have compared it to mother which seems strange to

[1:27:42] me because like i can clearly get why people would not like mother yeah uh it's mother is such a big

[1:27:50] swing and i guess suspirius too but like it's like it's not it's it i don't know the movie i would

[1:27:58] compare suspiria to is and i know that you know uh the director is obviously not a not a not a good

[1:28:04] man but i would uh compare it to rosemary's baby kind of because it has a similar way of

[1:28:10] approaching horror like it's not horror that's about a lot of thriller style tension or big

[1:28:17] shocks even though there are a couple of like very like shocking sequences but it's about

[1:28:23] creating disquiet and yeah like an unease with you and that i really want to see it and i can't

[1:28:31] wait uh i can't wait till we hear an academy award nomination for dr lutz ever ebersdorf

[1:28:37] all right what do you got elliot uh i'm gonna mention a movie that i actually watched on a

[1:28:44] plane but i was not lowering my expectations at all i just happened to be on a plane

[1:28:49] uh that's a movie it's a movie i wanted to see anyway it was something shot in 70 millimeter i

[1:28:54] hope yeah yeah yeah it's called avatar uh so which i have seen people watching on planes and i'm like

[1:29:03] all right what there was this same plane ride there was one guy who's watching nothing but

[1:29:06] marvel movies and i'm like all right i guess it's you want to watch it on this tiny screen sure go

[1:29:10] ahead uh but this movie i'd really want to see i really wanted to see and so i was excited that it

[1:29:14] was on this plane it's called blind spotting and it's a movie it stars david diggs and it's all

[1:29:20] about a guy who he's served a short term in prison and is at the very end of his probation period is

[1:29:27] three days till he's done with probation he works at a moving company with his longtime childhood

[1:29:31] best friend who is white but grew up in the bad part of oakland and so kind of thinks of himself

[1:29:38] as honorary black i guess and there are a number of different things happen in the movie that all

[1:29:43] tie together and i kind of like don't want to say too much about it except that david diggs's

[1:29:48] character is is kind of constantly being challenged to not get into situations that will hurt his

[1:29:55] chances of finishing his probation not through his own fault but just because of the way that

[1:30:00] this things are going on in in oakland right now and it's about gentrification and it's a little

[1:30:04] bit about uh the way people interact with the police there and the way the police interact

[1:30:08] with people there uh and something about this movie the trailer makes it look like it's super

[1:30:13] intense like the trailer makes it look like it's a movie about a police shooting that starts tearing

[1:30:18] someone's life apart and it is a little bit about that and it was listed in on the airplane as

[1:30:24] genre crime which is not the case at all and so i want to tell people like it's there's a it's

[1:30:30] also a really funny movie and it's really a character movie about this guy his relationship

[1:30:35] with his best friend and the people around him and it builds to a very intense powerful climax

[1:30:40] but it is not a non-stop forcing you to confront things movie and it's also not a movie that feels

[1:30:47] like oh i have to watch this because it's about things that i approve of or something like that

[1:30:52] it's not a movie that feels like homework it's a really fun entertaining movie that i really really

[1:30:56] liked a lot and does david digs rap in it yeah of course he does he's amazing at rapping uh but in

[1:31:02] a way that feels it's just really good and uh i really liked a lot so blind spotting that's the

[1:31:07] movie go see it that's uh and that's a that's a contemporary release elliot that was a movie that

[1:31:12] came out this year yeah ellie and i peed in a fountain at the same time and so we switched

[1:31:17] so xan's recommending black and white movies and i'm recommending new movies about black and white

[1:31:22] issues that aren't exactly black and white okay i wish everyone at home could have seen the little

[1:31:29] head cock that ellie did and also i put my hand on i put my fist on my hip like you guys know

[1:31:34] what i'm talking about let's get real everybody uh and also wayne knight has a small part in it

[1:31:38] So for anyone who's been wondering what Wade Knight's up to these days, he's in it.

[1:31:41] This is another one.

[1:31:43] The cast in the movie is really fantastic, and everyone's really good at it.

[1:31:46] So blindspotting.

[1:31:47] I can't say enough good things about it.

[1:31:50] Well, guys, thanks for embarking on this Pottersville journey with me.

[1:31:55] I almost said Pottiesville there.

[1:31:57] Now, how would Pottiesville have been different?

[1:31:59] How would that be a different movie?

[1:32:00] I feel like that's a weird Pixar movie about talking potties.

[1:32:04] Here in Pottiesville, we've got a dirty job to do.

[1:32:08] but we love doing it but then what would happen this is the court mandated movie we made so that

[1:32:13] we could teach children how to go to the bathroom it's like would it be like a toilet falls off the

[1:32:18] back of a truck and has to find its way to its new home or it's a town where everyone's a toilet and

[1:32:23] i don't know what hi my name's john

[1:32:26] and someone goes and something bad happens in a toilet goes oh crap like that's the kind of stuff

[1:32:33] that happens and of course john ratzenberger plays a does a voice in it but yeah yeah who's

[1:32:37] the voice of the main toilet dan uh well i think that pottersville's ron perlman should do that

[1:32:44] yeah a young everyman type voice yeah here's the thing about ron perlman and pottersville

[1:32:51] i feel like i feel like tom holland was listening to this episode and was like he's gonna say me

[1:32:56] and then picked up his ipod and threw it in the river when he said

[1:33:01] Hey, Tom Holland, if you're listening, write in, man.

[1:33:04] You know, we love you.

[1:33:06] Yeah, yeah, shoot us some webs.

[1:33:07] Either Tom Holland, the actor or the screenwriter and director, write in.

[1:33:12] If you're the Tom Holland from Spider-Man, write in.

[1:33:14] If you're the Tom Holland from Fright Night, write in.

[1:33:16] We don't care.

[1:33:16] We like both of you.

[1:33:17] If you're the country Holland, do it.

[1:33:19] Write in.

[1:33:20] Yeah, sure.

[1:33:20] If you're just named Tom, write in.

[1:33:23] Unless you're the Tom from the movie Peeping Tom.

[1:33:25] Don't kill us with a camera with a sharpened leg.

[1:33:28] Don't do that.

[1:33:29] So what I like, here's something I'll say for the last about Powersville is that, that Dan just made me think, is that Ron Perlman clearly wants to do comedy.

[1:33:36] He seems to really enjoy doing comedy, and he's a really funny performer, and I wish that there was more straightforward comedy stuff for him to do.

[1:33:44] Yeah.

[1:33:45] Yeah.

[1:33:46] You know, guys, I think I deserve a little bit of credit because we did a whole episode on this movie, and I didn't talk about the Bigfoot pizza from Pizza Hut once.

[1:33:57] All right, so I guess we should give you some credit.

[1:34:00] Do you want to pat on the back?

[1:34:01] I will take it in pizza.

[1:34:04] In four bucks?

[1:34:07] Except my credit.

[1:34:08] I'll take a bunch of stamps on my pizza reading club card or whatever.

[1:34:14] So I get a personal fan pizza.

[1:34:16] Can I imagine Stuart lives in a world where pizza is currency?

[1:34:20] So he's like, just give me a dollar and it's a slice of pizza.

[1:34:22] And he has to put that in a wallet and then fold it into his pants pocket.

[1:34:26] Yeah, it's the YA novel I'm working on.

[1:34:28] Yeah.

[1:34:28] The upper crust

[1:34:32] get pizza with as many toppings

[1:34:34] as they want. Okay.

[1:34:35] This is a weird dystopian world.

[1:34:38] Anyway,

[1:34:41] thanks to Maximum Fun for having us on their network.

[1:34:44] Go to MaximumFun.org

[1:34:46] to check out other shows on the network.

[1:34:48] Yeah, there's probably a bunch that are better

[1:34:50] than this one.

[1:34:51] Oh, for sure. For sure.

[1:34:55] Go listen to Switchblade Sisters.

[1:34:56] Better show than this.

[1:34:57] Okay.

[1:34:58] And if you like, but if you crazily like this show, why not write us a review on iTunes

[1:35:05] or wherever you're listening to your podcasts?

[1:35:06] Why don't you tweet about us?

[1:35:07] Hashtag The Flophouse.

[1:35:09] Why don't you tweet at us at The Flophouse Pod?

[1:35:12] Leave a message on our website if you want.

[1:35:16] Leave a comment on this episode.

[1:35:17] But the best thing for me to do would be to write a review, you know, on iTunes or something.

[1:35:21] Or tell a friend, hey, you've got to listen to this thing or I'll stop being friends with you.

[1:35:25] If you write a comment on the website

[1:35:27] Don't do what one guy did

[1:35:29] And get really mad at me

[1:35:30] That I had theoretically deleted his comment

[1:35:34] Which is not true

[1:35:35] I just take a long time to approve comments

[1:35:37] To make sure they aren't spam

[1:35:39] So just know that your comment may be delayed

[1:35:41] If you write a comment on the website

[1:35:43] Don't come at me

[1:35:44] Let's not kick over that nest of hornets

[1:35:46] Don't even bother Dan with it

[1:35:48] Just go to iTunes and write a review of us there

[1:35:50] Or tweet about us, Facebook about us, Instagram about us

[1:35:53] Periscope about us

[1:35:54] vine about us uh friends are about us myspace about us uh is uh is there a thing where you

[1:36:01] can where it's like you can send video i mean text your mom about us whatever you want to do

[1:36:06] like uh send send an email to your send a blue mountain e-card to your grandma about us they

[1:36:11] love those uh just whatever electronic way of communication you use just talk about the flop

[1:36:16] house send an e-vite that it's just an invitation to listen to the flop house oh that's a good idea

[1:36:21] Anyway, for The Flophouse, which we've been talking about a lot, I've been Dan McCoy.

[1:36:26] Hey, I'm Stuart Wellington.

[1:36:27] Over here, Elliot Kalin saying, have a happy holiday, if you celebrate a holiday or not.

[1:36:34] Just have a good December.

[1:36:35] Ugh.

[1:36:35] Bye.

[1:36:37] I don't see why that ugh was justified.

[1:36:43] That seems like a bit much.

[1:36:47] I mean, normally I recommend, like, you know, some stretching and warming up, but I think we're pretty warm, guys.

[1:36:53] Yeah, let's just jump right into this thing, huh?

[1:36:56] Let's just jump right in.

[1:36:57] Let's just jump right into the one better movie that's great.

[1:37:00] On this episode, we discuss Pottersville.

[1:37:04] Oh, let's do that over again.

[1:37:07] Professional.

[1:37:12] Maximumfun.org.

[1:37:16] Comedy and culture. Artist owned.

[1:37:18] Listener supported.

Ep. #272 - Pottersville

Chapters

Transcript

Description