Ep. #288 - The Haunting of Sharon Tate

Elliott Kalan

[0:00] On this episode we discuss The Haunting of Sharon Tate.

[0:03] For this performance of The Haunting of Sharon Tate, Sharon Tate will be played by Hill House.

Dan McCoy

[0:11] Okay.

[0:12] It's actually eerily accurate.

[0:13] Yeah, that's very good.

[0:30] Hey everyone and welcome to The Flophouse.

[0:43] I'm Dan McCoy.

Stuart Wellington

[0:43] Oh, hey there.

[0:45] I'm Stuart Wellington.

Elliott Kalan

[0:46] Over here in my in-law's garage, I'm Elliot Kalin on vacation, but not on a pod-cation.

[0:52] That's when you don't do a podcast because you're on vacation.

[0:55] And Dan, what's special about today's show, huh?

Dan McCoy

[0:57] We have a special guest.

[0:59] You know her from Twitter.

[1:02] You know her from writing funny things for Vulture.

[1:07] You know her from a few scenes in Search Party.

[1:11] Uh-huh, yep.

[1:12] She's Natalie Walker.

Natalie Walker

[1:13] Yay!

[1:14] You know her from the old days of the Facebook group for The Flophouse.

[1:18] She was a big fan.

[1:21] She was.

[1:22] She was.

[1:23] No longer.

[1:24] Well, now she's just among you.

Stuart Wellington

[1:27] We scatter flowers on the grave of old Natalie.

[1:31] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:32] She's gone.

[1:32] No, you made reference to a recent episode, which made me feel good because it would have

[1:37] broken my heart to learn that you would stop listening.

[1:40] I simply don't listen.

Natalie Walker

[1:40] No, I just like moved back from the Facebook group because there just started to be so many

[1:45] people and so many men.

[1:47] Wow.

[1:48] I was like, I already engage with too many internet men.

[1:51] But yeah.

[1:53] Serenity was gorgeous.

[1:53] Something about our podcast appeals to men.

Dan McCoy

[1:56] To dudes?

Elliott Kalan

[1:56] Why?

Dan McCoy

[1:57] Well, let's not exclude our female listeners.

[2:00] No, no, Dan.

Elliott Kalan

[2:01] They're gone.

[2:01] We don't need them anymore.

[2:02] No.

[2:03] Hey, Natalie.

[2:05] This is now The Flophouse, a podcast where three dudes talk to women about what women

[2:08] are interested in.

Natalie Walker

[2:10] Oh, no.

[2:11] Younger.

[2:11] We're going to talk about Younger.

[2:13] Yes.

Elliott Kalan

[2:13] I have a lot of opinions about Kelsey Peters' new role at Millennial.

Stuart Wellington

[2:17] Listen, I don't think she's equipped for it, and I'm nervous.

[2:20] I 100% agree with you, and I think it's all going to fall apart, and I don't really

[2:24] like her relationship with Zane, but we'll talk about it more.

[2:26] No.

[2:26] Yeah.

[2:27] I'm a couple episodes behind.

Elliott Kalan

[2:28] I'm a dad, so I assumed you were talking about Sebastian Younger, the author, a guy

[2:32] that dads read.

Stuart Wellington

[2:34] Sebastian Younger is the type of author who might be parodied in an episode of the television

[2:38] show Younger.

[2:39] Yes.

Dan McCoy

[2:40] Now, Natalie, I'm led to believe you're very popular on the internet.

Natalie Walker

[2:45] Oh.

[2:45] How does one do that?

[2:49] Just carve out a niche.

[2:52] Okay.

[2:52] If you can appeal to teenage girls, I think like that's-

[2:55] That's our mistake.

[2:56] Yeah.

[2:56] I think that's sort of the main thing.

[2:58] Because it was like, no one cared about anything I did, and then I did a video that was the

[3:03] Alto 2 part of All I Want for Christmas is You from when my high school sang it, and then

[3:07] all of these teen girls started being like, I'm doing this part now, retweet, retweet, retweet,

[3:11] and now they all will go to bat for me, especially queer teenage girls.

Stuart Wellington

[3:15] Okay.

[3:16] So you have an army following, an army supporting you.

[3:21] Yes.

Dan McCoy

[3:21] And now you find yourself singing with Paul F. Tompkins.

Natalie Walker

[3:24] Insane.

[3:25] I get to do it again soon.

[3:26] Yeah.

[3:26] Oh, wow.

[3:27] He's coming back.

[3:27] We're doing Unworthy of Your Love from Assassins.

Stuart Wellington

[3:30] I don't even know what that is.

Natalie Walker

[3:32] It's a good song.

Elliott Kalan

[3:34] Oh, Stu.

Natalie Walker

[3:35] And it's squeaky from so topical.

Elliott Kalan

[3:38] Yeah, very related to this episode.

[3:40] Because Dan, what do we do on this podcast?

Stuart Wellington

[3:41] But wait, is that a song from the movie Assassins with Antonio Banderas?

[3:45] No.

[3:46] No.

[3:46] Okay.

[3:47] Well.

Elliott Kalan

[3:48] I remember I went to go see Assassins the movie and was like, I can't wait.

[3:52] Finally, they're making movies out of my favorite Sondheim shows.

[3:56] And they're just super disappointed.

Natalie Walker

[3:57] Antonio Banderas could have been in it.

[3:59] Probably.

[4:00] A singer.

[4:00] Famously a singer.

Stuart Wellington

[4:01] I didn't know that.

[4:02] Oh.

[4:02] Okay.

[4:03] Well.

[4:03] Yeah.

[4:03] See, this is an educational podcast.

[4:06] So speaking of educating people, Dan, what do we do on this podcast?

Dan McCoy

[4:11] So on this podcast, we watch a bad movie and then we talk about it.

[4:14] Now, Natalie chose the movie this time around.

[4:16] I want to say actually.

[4:18] Sounds like an accusation when you say that.

[4:19] It is an accusation.

[4:20] I'll get to that.

[4:21] I want to say before, a very nice listener wrote in and said, hey, maybe on occasional

[4:27] episodes, if necessary, a content warning would be nice.

[4:30] And so I want to say that this movie is about the graphic murder of some real life people

[4:36] that it does not take that seriously, I think.

Elliott Kalan

[4:39] I think that it thinks it's taking it very seriously.

[4:43] Yeah, maybe.

Dan McCoy

[4:45] I'm just letting people know that.

Elliott Kalan

[4:46] In case people didn't realize that from the title, The Haunting of Sharon Tate, that it

[4:49] might involve the real life murder of Sharon Tate.

Natalie Walker

[4:52] Well, it could have been about her being haunted on the set of Valley of the Dolls by Judy Garland's

[4:57] ghost.

[4:58] That's possible.

Elliott Kalan

[5:00] That's fair.

[5:01] So yeah, Natalie, why this movie?

Natalie Walker

[5:03] My friend, Nicole Cliff, texted me in the middle of the night one night and was like,

[5:09] I'm watching the most horrible movie I've maybe ever seen.

[5:13] It's The Haunting of Sharon Tate.

[5:15] And I had never heard of this movie.

[5:16] And then I looked it up and I was like, Hillary Duff is Sharon Tate.

[5:19] That simply does not seem right.

[5:23] And then this, yeah.

[5:25] Really?

Elliott Kalan

[5:25] Because she seems like a child pretending to be an adult through the whole movie?

Natalie Walker

[5:28] Yeah.

[5:29] Well, yeah.

[5:29] Also, she has very short girl energy.

[5:31] And Sharon Tate is very willowy.

[5:34] And Hilary Duff is someone whose face you see and you're like, that's a short girl.

[5:38] She's a cute short girl.

Elliott Kalan

[5:41] I think I might need you to explain this before because I've never heard of these concepts before.

[5:44] Is it because of the way she holds her head?

Stuart Wellington

[5:47] She's always like, she's used to looking up at things.

Natalie Walker

[5:50] Yes.

[5:51] Yes.

[5:51] And there's not a lot of neck involved.

[5:53] Yeah.

[5:54] It was a lot.

[5:55] Yeah.

[5:55] And also, she's doing the, she's doing for the first half of the movie, like a very funny

[6:01] accent, like of an old timey person.

[6:03] Very interested in us where that accent is.

[6:06] Roman.

Elliott Kalan

[6:06] She seems to think that Sharon Tate talked like Katharine Hepburn.

[6:10] Yes.

[6:10] Like a lot of like a girl who just saw like the African Queen on TV and is like, that's

[6:16] how I'm going to talk.

Dan McCoy

[6:18] Yes.

[6:19] And I like to be pretty easy on actors in general.

[6:23] Like, you know, we were talking about Younger before.

[6:25] I like Hilary Duff perfectly fine in that role.

Stuart Wellington

[6:27] Yeah, where she plays Kelsey Peters, the head of the millennial imprint over at Empirical

[6:31] Publishing.

Dan McCoy

[6:32] I would just say that maybe the casting was a mistake in this case.

Elliott Kalan

[6:36] My guess is that this movie was not going to get made without Hilary Duff in the role

[6:41] of Sharon Tate.

[6:41] So I can understand from the producer's point of view why this was the casting they went

[6:45] with.

Stuart Wellington

[6:46] Yeah.

[6:46] And she filmed this while pregnant, right?

[6:49] She's actually pregnant in this movie.

Elliott Kalan

[6:51] Is that true?

[6:52] Because it looked like a fake pregnant belly to me, to be honest.

[6:55] She was.

Stuart Wellington

[6:56] I feel like it.

[6:56] Well, I mean, because there's a lot of times while watching Younger where I'm like, I think

[7:00] Hilary Duff's pregnant based on the way they're dressing her.

Elliott Kalan

[7:03] And the way there's always grocery bags on her desk in front of her belly.

[7:06] Yeah.

Natalie Walker

[7:07] She's always at her desk.

[7:09] Always diaphanous layers.

[7:11] It's always like a leather jacket with like tight sleeves.

[7:14] But then the leather jacket has like little ruffles in the front.

Elliott Kalan

[7:18] There's always construction workers are always carrying long planks of wood by in the foreground

[7:22] of the shots.

[7:23] In front of her.

Stuart Wellington

[7:24] Yeah.

[7:25] Yeah.

[7:25] It's like a Jim Lee X-Men panel that features a naked character and they just have like billowing

[7:31] smoke.

[7:32] Oh, yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[7:32] Well, there's all those wisps of very opaque smoke covering Psylocke's parts.

[7:36] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[7:36] Oh, oh.

[7:37] To read Chris Claremont's original script describing that panel.

Elliott Kalan

[7:41] What's weird is that the description for the original panel probably had less text than

[7:46] the caption boxes in the final comic.

[7:48] Oh, Chris Claremont burn.

[7:50] Anyway.

[7:51] So, Stuart, you were going to take us through this movie, The Haunting of Sharon Tate, right?

[7:54] Okay.

Stuart Wellington

[7:54] Let me, I'm going to crack open my summary notes.

[7:58] That's weird.

[7:59] It looks like across four pages I just spelled out the word fart.

Natalie Walker

[8:05] Okay, just kidding.

Elliott Kalan

[8:05] I mean, that's weird since there's no audible farts in the film, as far as I remember.

Natalie Walker

[8:09] No audible ones.

[8:11] You never know.

Elliott Kalan

[8:11] Why do you have to figure someone on set?

[8:12] Yeah.

Natalie Walker

[8:13] Well, Sharon's pregnant.

Elliott Kalan

[8:15] She's pregnant.

[8:16] Her body's doing all sorts of things.

[8:17] Exactly.

[8:17] You know, there's nothing wrong with that.

[8:18] It's just the human body.

Stuart Wellington

[8:20] Okay.

[8:21] The Haunting of Sharon Tate.

[8:23] Chapter one.

[8:24] So, we get our usual deluge production company credits.

[8:29] Oh, man.

[8:30] There were so many.

[8:31] Including Saban Films, you know, Saban's Power Rangers.

[8:34] Voltage.

[8:34] Voltage Pictures, which has like their little video looks like a scene from the Chrono Trigger video game.

[8:44] So, the movie opens.

[8:45] I thought the same thing.

[8:46] Yeah.

[8:46] I mean, that reference was mainly for your benefit, Natalie.

[8:51] So, the movie opens with an Edgar Allan Poe quote.

[8:55] Is all that we see or seem, but a dream within a dream.

[9:00] Always a good sign when you get that kind of an opening.

Dan McCoy

[9:03] Also, for like a thing based on a real life story, I'm like, no.

[9:08] In this case, not.

Elliott Kalan

[9:10] When you start with a quote like that, it's like the movie is, that's the movie's trigger warning for like,

[9:14] what you're about to see is kind of a bunch of bullshit.

[9:18] It's a fanfic about a murder.

[9:20] I guess if these shadows have offended, maybe you fell asleep and dreamed the whole thing.

[9:25] Did Edgar Allan Poe write that?

[9:27] Whatever.

[9:27] I don't care.

[9:28] It's a Hilary Duff movie.

Stuart Wellington

[9:30] It is.

[9:31] And by the way, I'm glad that we're finally crossing into true crime territory.

[9:35] That's going to take this podcast to the next level.

[9:36] Hugely popular right now.

Elliott Kalan

[9:38] People love to treat real life tragedy as entertainment.

[9:41] That they can, you know, just kind of wonder who done it.

Stuart Wellington

[9:44] Yeah, I mean, Unsolved Murder, what Unsolved Murders, Unsolved Mysteries was the name of the show, is still pretty big.

[9:51] People watch it on, what, Netflix, Hulu?

Elliott Kalan

[9:53] Probably all of those.

[9:54] I mean, this is not an unsolved murder.

[9:56] The culprits are in jail right now.

[9:58] I mean, one of them has deceased, but, you know, what are you going to do?

Stuart Wellington

[10:03] But do they turn into ghosts and see their bodies at the end of the murder?

[10:07] That's the mystery, Elliot.

[10:08] We'll find out.

[10:08] So the movie opens after that quote with an interviewer asking Sharon Tate if she's psychic.

[10:16] We get a timestamp Thursday, August 1st, 1968.

[10:20] And then she relays a dream she had where she and her friend were murdered.

Elliott Kalan

[10:25] Now, should we explain for any younger people listening to this podcast?

[10:28] I kid, all of our listeners are elderly like us, who Sharon Tate is, why we know ahead of time that her haunting will be fatal.

Stuart Wellington

[10:36] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[10:36] So this is, yeah, this is based on the murder of, I don't know why I'm taking this.

[10:41] This is a subject I know almost nothing about.

[10:44] Who wants to field this one?

Dan McCoy

[10:46] Sharon Tate was in Star 80, right?

[10:49] Is that correct?

Stuart Wellington

[10:50] Or is that someone else I'm thinking of?

Dan McCoy

[10:52] No, no, no.

[10:52] I'm thinking of a different person who died.

[10:54] You're thinking of Dorothy Stratton.

[10:55] Yeah, she also died.

[10:56] R&P, R-I-P, R-N-P.

Elliott Kalan

[10:59] You know what?

[10:59] Okay, just, Natalie, do you want to try?

[11:01] Because after these two failures?

Natalie Walker

[11:02] I think we should just round rob it.

[11:06] Who do you think she was?

[11:07] It's like one of those games where each person adds one word to the story.

Dan McCoy

[11:11] She was Roman Polanski's wife and she was an actress.

[11:14] I don't know what she was in.

Elliott Kalan

[11:15] Star 80 is about Dorothy Stratton, right?

Dan McCoy

[11:17] Star 80 is, yes.

Elliott Kalan

[11:19] So Sharon Tate was the wife of Roman Polanski and she was an actress and her and her friends

[11:25] one night, including Jay Sebring, who was a friend of hers, another Hollywood fixture.

[11:30] One night they were murdered by the members of the Manson family.

[11:33] And if you read Joan Didion.

[11:35] Because they were staying in the house.

[11:35] What?

Natalie Walker

[11:36] They were staying in the house where like the previous occupant was some record producer

[11:41] who ignored Charles Manson's requests for a record deal.

[11:46] So they were mad.

Elliott Kalan

[11:48] If you listen to all 400 parts of You Must Remember This Is series on Charles Manson,

[11:53] you'll know that Charles Manson, at first he wanted to get across his message of love

[11:58] and murder through becoming a groovy musician in the kind of Beach Boys type of forum.

[12:05] And he was hanging around Hollywood, involving himself in the lives of real Hollywood people

[12:10] for a while.

[12:10] And this record producer, he thought had, I guess, promised him something.

[12:14] And he kept going to his house and bothering him.

[12:16] And eventually that guy moved out and Tate and Polanski moved in.

[12:20] And Charles Manson, I guess, didn't get the forwarding address card and kept going there.

[12:26] So the whole thing is a horrible, even more of a tragic misunderstanding.

[12:30] And if you read Joe Didion, it's when the 60s ended.

[12:32] Even though by the calendar, there was still some 60s left.

[12:36] Just a tiny bit.

Dan McCoy

[12:37] Sharon Tate was in Valley of the Dolls.

[12:39] That was her biggest role.

[12:40] Yeah, yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[12:40] I mean, they mentioned that in the movies.

[12:42] I watched multiple times.

[12:43] Why are you arguing with me?

Dan McCoy

[12:44] We're talking about who Sharon Tate is.

[12:47] Just adding a little more context.

[12:49] Since I flubbed it earlier.

Elliott Kalan

[12:53] No, it's fine.

[12:53] I know you got her mixed up with a different, tragically murdered blonde actress

[12:57] in the movie about her.

[12:58] And that's, you know, in Dan's mind, if you're blonde and an actress and you get murdered,

[13:02] you're all the same person.

[13:03] Who cares?

Natalie Walker

[13:04] Well, Karina Longworth did that entire series on dead blondes.

Elliott Kalan

[13:08] So yeah, and Dan was like, it's the same person over and over again.

Natalie Walker

[13:12] It's like, why has she put out the same podcast 10 times?

Elliott Kalan

[13:15] Why did she take the same person, give them 14 different names, and then do the same episode

[13:19] every time?

[13:20] I'm Dan McCoy.

Dan McCoy

[13:23] I have some sort of mental problem, I guess.

Elliott Kalan

[13:27] Hey, you're the one who's saying it.

[13:28] Anyway, Stuart, so Sharon Tate, she had that bad dream.

Stuart Wellington

[13:32] Yeah, she mentions that she had a bad dream, that she and her friend were murdered.

[13:36] We then get a new title, a new date.

[13:39] It is one year later from the time of that interview.

[13:42] We find out that through, what, like, newsreels, that there has been, it gives us the story

[13:48] of the murder, this is the, what, the day after this happened, we take a leisurely, the camera

[13:53] takes us on a leisurely stroll through the aftermath.

[13:57] It takes us on a real realtor's walkthrough of the house for a long time.

[14:02] It does just enough to kind of, like, to show you a little bit of the house, but not actually

[14:07] give you that much of the, like, geography of the location.

Natalie Walker

[14:11] Yeah, I had no sense of the layout of this house or how it worked.

Stuart Wellington

[14:15] And then, and we, of course, the camera lingers over the dead bodies, finally ending on Sharon

[14:23] Tate.

[14:24] We get a new title card three days earlier, with a date Wednesday, August 6th, 1969.

[14:29] I suppose you're wondering how I got in this position as a dead person.

[14:33] It was kind of shocking how many new dates and title cards this movie threw at us.

Elliott Kalan

[14:39] Yeah, for three days.

[14:41] It was like a movie that was trying to give you the impression that it was heavily researched

[14:44] and documented by confusing you as much as possible.

[14:47] Yeah.

[14:47] Like, it's 1968.

[14:49] Okay, it's a year later.

[14:50] Oh, I guess it's 1969.

[14:51] It's three days earlier.

[14:52] Three days earlier from 1969?

[14:54] Hold on.

[14:54] Wait, what?

[14:55] So, was it, like, December 28th?

Natalie Walker

[14:56] It was, like, 1968.

[14:57] When I was studying for the APUS history exam in high school, I, like, did no actual work,

[15:03] but I just had a bunch of flashcards with, like, dates on them.

[15:07] And I was like, of course I'm doing it.

[15:09] Look at all these flashcards.

S5

[15:10] And that's what this movie was doing to me.

[15:13] That's a really good prop.

[15:13] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[15:15] So, we now have a scene where Sharon Taitner friend Jay Sebring are driving up.

[15:23] Aaron Samuels from Mean Girls.

[15:24] Oh, I didn't, yeah.

[15:26] That's where I recognize it from.

[15:27] Yes.

[15:27] They drive up to the house that we saw earlier.

[15:30] This shot is done using a million edits.

[15:33] It takes forever.

[15:35] It looks like a perfume commercial.

[15:36] Yeah.

[15:37] Yes.

[15:37] We get a little bit of ominous watching them from the shadows.

[15:41] Yeah.

[15:41] So, we already get the spooky, scary stuff going on.

Dan McCoy

[15:43] At this point, I didn't know who he was supposed to be, so I'm like, this is a very inaccurate

[15:47] Roman Polanski.

[15:48] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[15:49] This is terrible.

[15:50] This tall, handsome guy.

[15:51] Yeah.

[15:52] Yeah, I was kind of excited that he was going to be a Roman Polanski, and then they did a

[15:56] switcheroonie on me.

[15:58] They go into the home.

[16:00] We're introduced to a dog that's apparently a doctor.

[16:03] That's crazy.

Elliott Kalan

[16:04] Their dog's one name was like Dr. Saperstein.

[16:07] That was the name of the dog.

[16:08] It is Dr. Saperstein.

[16:09] Ignore that.

[16:09] I mean, it was the 60s.

[16:11] Things were crazy.

[16:12] You know?

[16:13] A dog could become a doctor.

Stuart Wellington

[16:14] There's nothing in the rule book.

[16:15] As long as it's a male dog, I guess.

Elliott Kalan

[16:19] That reminds me of an old riddle.

[16:22] A dog and a puppy are in an accident, and they bring the puppy to the hospital.

[16:28] And the doctor dog says, I can't operate on this puppy.

[16:33] It's my son, and I'm a bitch.

[16:35] Technically.

[16:38] Dan's going to edit that whole thing.

[16:41] Dan, that was a technical term.

[16:44] I know.

[16:46] I'm aware.

Stuart Wellington

[16:48] Elliot's foot is on base, I guess.

Elliott Kalan

[16:50] Yeah, exactly.

[16:52] I'll allow it, says Air Bud.

Stuart Wellington

[16:55] Wait, Air Bud can talk?

[16:57] I thought he could just play basketball.

[16:59] He also wasn't a judge.

Elliott Kalan

[17:01] There's nothing in the rule book that says a dog can't talk and be a judge.

Natalie Walker

[17:04] But doctor, I am Roman Polanski.

Elliott Kalan

[17:10] That'd be so funny.

[17:11] Doc, I'm so depressed.

[17:13] Oh, you should see this new Roman Polanski movie.

[17:15] It'll really cheer you up.

[17:16] But doctor, I am Roman Polanski.

[17:17] And have you seen the movies I make?

[17:20] Even Fearless Vampire Killers, which is ostensibly a comedy, is not funny.

Stuart Wellington

[17:26] So we're introduced to two more people.

[17:29] So we have this scene of like, it felt very much like a scene from a slasher movie where

[17:36] we get to meet all the young upcoming victims, which I don't mean to say in a insensitive

[17:42] way.

[17:42] Just like all the dialogue is the laziest sorts of things.

[17:46] We have a character, what is it?

[17:48] Wozzeck?

[17:49] Who is Roman Polanski's best friend.

[17:52] And his girlfriend or wife, Abigail, who is played by...

[17:57] The heiress to the Folger Empire.

[17:59] Yeah, played by Lydia Hurst, the granddaughter of what, Patty Hurst?

[18:04] Yes.

[18:04] Look at me.

[18:04] Yes, thank you.

[18:05] Thank you.

Natalie Walker

[18:06] Heiress to the Hurst fortune.

[18:08] So art imitating life.

Stuart Wellington

[18:10] And current owner of Chris Hardwick's heart.

[18:12] Fucking A.

[18:14] So we...

Natalie Walker

[18:15] She stood by him.

Stuart Wellington

[18:17] Yeah, she stood by her husband, Chris Hardwick.

[18:20] She's standing by.

[18:21] Through thick and thin.

[18:22] Maybe because she knew this movie was going to blow up.

[18:25] So Hillary Duff displays...

[18:27] She continues to display...

[18:28] As my note says,

[18:29] What is this accent?

[18:32] And it comes and goes, too.

[18:34] Oh, absolutely.

Natalie Walker

[18:35] By the end, it's completely gone.

[18:37] She's back to Lizzie McGuire.

Stuart Wellington

[18:38] And what's impressive is that, according to IMDb,

[18:41] that she filmed the whole movie in two days.

[18:43] Yeah.

[18:44] Oh, my.

[18:44] So it's not like the accent...

Natalie Walker

[18:47] They had her come back and do reshoots months later,

[18:49] and she was like,

[18:50] What voice was I doing?

[18:51] Who cares?

[18:52] It's like,

[18:52] Oh, no, that's just what it was.

[18:54] Just over the course of the day,

[18:55] she was like,

[18:56] Oh, let's stop.

[18:57] It's after nine.

Elliott Kalan

[18:59] It's like,

[18:59] After lunch,

[19:00] she forgot what the accent was.

[19:02] Yes.

[19:02] She's like,

[19:03] Oh, I've got a sandwich in my tummy.

[19:04] I can't do that accent anymore.

[19:06] Here's my favorite detail about this scene,

[19:08] is they make a real point of...

[19:10] Roman Planski has stayed back in London

[19:12] to work on his next movie,

[19:13] and they make a real point of telling you

[19:15] that the movie is Day of the Dolphin.

[19:17] And it's like,

[19:18] I guess that's probably technically true.

[19:20] He was working on Day of the Dolphin,

[19:21] but what a weird movie

[19:23] to make sure the audience knows

[19:25] he was working on,

[19:26] because it's one,

[19:27] not a well-known movie,

[19:28] and two,

[19:28] he didn't direct it in the end.

[19:30] They'd be like,

[19:30] Oh, Day of the Dolphin.

Natalie Walker

[19:32] It's also part of a mini monologue

[19:35] that's the movie's attempt at feminism,

[19:37] where Lydia Hearst is like,

[19:38] Well, he's directing Day of the Dolphin,

[19:40] and you're being pregnant,

[19:42] and he's not going to be there for you.

[19:43] Typical man.

Elliott Kalan

[19:45] It's like,

[19:45] What does this movie think it is doing?

Natalie Walker

[19:47] And it's also like,

[19:48] the movie is like,

Elliott Kalan

[19:49] that was Roman Planski's real crime,

[19:51] not being there for his pregnant wife.

[19:52] If Lydia had done that,

[19:53] he'd be a great man.

[19:54] It's like,

[19:55] a movie.

[19:57] Like, he's a terrible person.

[19:59] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[19:59] Yeah, so there's a bunch of showbiz bullshit.

[20:02] We get a little bit of exposition.

[20:04] Then we,

[20:05] after a brief shot of the L.A. skyline getting dark,

[20:08] we,

[20:08] our heroes are sitting around a table,

[20:12] having dinner.

[20:13] Loge relays a story about a gnome,

[20:16] a gnome that we know as,

[20:17] I don't even know him.

[20:18] Gnoman Polanski.

[20:20] Gnoman Polanski.

[20:22] You know,

[20:22] I love a cool tale about a gnome.

[20:26] The conversation then,

[20:27] blends into some like,

[20:29] thoughts about like,

[20:30] fate and like,

[20:32] butterfly theory.

[20:33] Oh my god.

Dan McCoy

[20:34] Yeah,

[20:34] this movie really lays out

[20:36] its ostensible theme,

[20:37] very directly,

[20:39] being like,

[20:39] like,

[20:40] Sharon Tate is constantly being like,

[20:42] do you think that our lives are set,

[20:44] or that they can change,

[20:46] or like,

[20:47] it seems like,

[20:47] The smallest choice can affect your destiny.

Natalie Walker

[20:49] Yeah,

[20:49] and then Abigail has a full on psycho monologue,

[20:52] that ends with like,

[20:54] Sharon Tate,

[20:55] I think you're gonna get everything you deserve.

[20:58] Like,

[20:58] looks at the camera,

[21:00] eyeballs turn into daggers.

[21:02] That monologue was also so terribly ADR'd,

[21:05] like,

[21:06] why,

[21:06] like,

[21:06] she's,

[21:07] you can tell that they just had Lydia like,

[21:09] watch the take,

[21:10] and try to speak along to herself,

[21:13] with like,

[21:14] a lip sync,

[21:15] and then I looked at the IMDb trivia for this movie,

[21:18] and it,

[21:18] one of the trivia bits was,

[21:20] three Instagram posts by Lydia Hurst,

[21:23] depicted her doing ADR for this movie,

[21:26] and I was like,

[21:26] that's trivia?

[21:27] Okay,

[21:28] sure.

[21:28] It was a nice confirmation.

[21:30] I was like,

[21:30] why does this monologue sound so insane?

Stuart Wellington

[21:33] I noticed that as well,

[21:34] but I did not notice,

[21:36] how many people found that information helpful?

Elliott Kalan

[21:41] Here's the thing I like about this monologue,

[21:43] is that,

[21:43] both of these monologues,

[21:44] is,

[21:44] they feel like they were dropped in from a different script.

[21:47] Like,

[21:47] up till that point,

[21:48] it's a lot of like,

[21:49] oh,

[21:49] the baby's coming,

[21:50] I'm gaining so much weight,

[21:52] oh,

[21:52] that's terrible,

[21:53] and your husband's not here,

[21:54] oh,

[21:54] shame on him.

[21:55] Do you think our lives are,

[21:57] faded to end a certain way,

[21:59] or can random chance spin us off into different directions?

[22:02] Do we have control over our own free will?

[22:04] It's like,

[22:04] wait,

[22:05] what?

[22:06] Yeah,

Natalie Walker

[22:06] we were just talking about Sharon's ass.

Elliott Kalan

[22:08] Yeah,

[22:09] it went straight from like,

[22:11] this movie into,

[22:12] they just cut and pasted some pages from like,

[22:14] a Tom Stoppard play,

[22:15] and just stuck them in.

Stuart Wellington

[22:16] And they,

[22:16] and they even sneak in a sideburn about Orson Welles being overweight.

[22:20] I mean,

[22:20] come on,

[22:20] he's going through something.

[22:22] We,

[22:22] uh,

[22:22] she talks a little bit about how she,

[22:25] there's,

[22:25] uh,

[22:26] she suspects Roman of infidelity,

[22:28] which,

[22:29] you know,

[22:30] I think that's a little Easter egg for the true fans.

[22:34] The fans of Roman Polanski's horrible life.

[22:37] Yeah.

[22:38] They,

[22:39] that's when they start to play a fucking fortune telling game.

[22:42] While listening to like sitar music,

[22:44] it felt very strange.

[22:46] It was like,

Elliott Kalan

[22:46] it was the sixties,

[22:47] dude,

[22:47] it was the sixties.

[22:48] That's what everybody did.

[22:49] Even the president was doing that stuff.

[22:51] Sitar mania swept the nation.

Stuart Wellington

[22:54] Yeah.

[22:54] They,

[22:54] they play some like,

[22:55] they play some fortune telling game that involves like a marble rolling around.

Natalie Walker

[22:59] Yeah.

[23:00] It felt like an early Ouija board thing.

[23:02] It was like,

Elliott Kalan

[23:03] it was like Ouija roulette,

[23:04] like some kind of off-brand gambling Ouija board.

[23:07] Yes.

[23:07] Uh huh.

[23:08] Uh,

[23:09] now guys,

[23:10] what,

[23:10] what about this?

[23:11] A casino that's kind of like seance themed and like,

[23:14] so the roulette board is Ouija themed.

[23:16] Uh huh.

[23:16] Blackjack is also kind of Ouija board themed.

[23:19] Or tarot cards.

[23:19] No,

Elliott Kalan

[23:19] it's tarot card blackjack.

[23:20] Yeah.

[23:21] Tarot card blackjack.

[23:22] And,

[23:22] uh,

[23:23] maybe there's like one of those chickens that you can play tic-tac-toe against,

[23:27] uh,

[23:27] and then they sacrifice it afterwards.

[23:30] What do you guys think?

[23:30] Should I open this casino?

[23:31] I mean,

Dan McCoy

[23:31] I don't think so.

[23:32] Some runes or some tea leaves or some bones,

[23:34] any of that stuff.

Elliott Kalan

[23:35] You got it all over the place.

[23:37] Yes,

[23:37] definitely.

Natalie Walker

[23:38] The slot machine is a bone,

[23:40] Paul.

[23:41] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[23:41] Yep.

[23:42] Yeah.

[23:43] And instead of money coming out,

[23:44] it's bones.

[23:45] I know the bit.

Elliott Kalan

[23:46] Yeah.

[23:47] Bones.

[23:48] I don't need these.

[23:49] Instead of chips,

[23:50] you get bones.

[23:51] It's a lot of,

[23:51] it's a dog themed casino.

Stuart Wellington

[23:53] Yeah,

[23:53] I've seen,

[23:54] I've seen,

[23:55] I think she's actually.

Elliott Kalan

[23:56] Air,

[23:56] Air Bud is like,

[23:57] there's nothing in the rule book that says you can't have a dog themed casino.

Stuart Wellington

[24:00] Uh huh.

[24:01] I mean,

[24:01] I think he's biased because he likes having a lot of bones.

[24:04] Uh,

Elliott Kalan

[24:05] but he's still the gaming commissioner of Nevada.

[24:07] So I think he can,

[24:07] you don't think he can be bought?

Stuart Wellington

[24:11] I think he can be coerced with bones.

[24:13] So when it comes time,

[24:14] for Sharon to ask her question,

[24:16] of course she asks,

[24:17] will I live a long and happy life?

[24:19] At which point they are interrupted by a sharp knock at the door from a creepy character

[24:25] who,

[24:26] uh,

[24:27] is looking for Terry and he wanders off.

[24:29] and,

[24:30] uh,

[24:30] whoa,

[24:30] she had been talking to the guy,

[24:32] scared the guy off is like,

[24:33] yeah,

[24:34] it's some guy,

[24:35] Charlie something.

[24:36] And then I think he looked at the camera.

[24:38] Yeah.

[24:41] Okay.

[24:41] So,

[24:42] uh,

[24:43] Sharon goes to sleep.

[24:45] She wakes up to hear her friends boning,

[24:47] but not bones.

[24:48] The,

[24:48] the currency.

[24:50] Not my dog based bone casino.

[24:53] There's also about fortune telling.

[24:54] Yeah.

[24:55] Boning is also what I call watching bones,

[24:57] the television show.

[24:58] Yeah.

[24:58] They're,

[24:58] they're watching bones on their DVD player.

Elliott Kalan

[25:00] I love David Boreanaz.

[25:02] Can't get enough.

Stuart Wellington

[25:04] David Boreanaz does look like a fellow who has one too many bones.

[25:07] Um,

[25:08] one.

[25:09] I don't know.

[25:10] I mean,

[25:11] one too many.

[25:11] Where,

[25:12] where's this extra bone?

[25:13] I mean,

[25:13] that's,

[25:14] you gotta watch the show to find out.

[25:16] Uh,

Elliott Kalan

[25:17] is that what the show is about?

[25:18] Is that they're trying to figure out where his extra bone is?

Stuart Wellington

[25:21] Elliot,

[25:21] I have a firm belief that,

[25:23] uh,

[25:23] to support no spoilers culture.

[25:25] So I don't want to ruin the surprise.

[25:27] Just watch the show.

[25:28] It's good.

[25:29] Um,

[25:29] you get,

[25:29] it's on like all the time.

[25:31] Uh,

[25:32] so she hears noises and starts to wander around the house.

[25:35] Like you do.

[25:36] She goes into,

[25:38] I mean,

Elliott Kalan

[25:38] to be fair,

[25:39] when I hear a noise in my house,

[25:40] I do wander around trying to find what it is.

[25:43] Not me.

Stuart Wellington

[25:43] I hide under the covers.

Elliott Kalan

[25:46] Because they can't see you if you're under the covers.

Stuart Wellington

[25:49] She finds,

[25:50] uh,

[25:50] the ice,

[25:51] the,

[25:51] the noise is coming from the ice maker in the refrigerator.

[25:55] We get a couple of like home invader scares where like,

[25:58] there's a man standing outside or,

[26:00] uh,

[26:00] somebody walks by a window real quick.

[26:03] And then checking the front door,

[26:05] they find that there's a package on the door.

[26:06] Uh,

[26:07] and they realize they need to,

[26:09] need to get a new code for their gate.

[26:11] And then Dr.

[26:12] Saperstein hero dog goes running off into the night.

Natalie Walker

[26:16] Dr.

[26:18] Saperstein.

Stuart Wellington

[26:18] Dr.

[26:19] Saperstein.

[26:19] He'll,

[26:20] he'll probably turn out.

[26:21] Okay.

[26:21] Let's find out.

[26:21] He was just making a house call.

[26:23] Yeah.

[26:24] Good one.

[26:25] Uh,

[26:26] and as,

[26:27] as we've already addressed,

[26:28] he'll accept payment in,

[26:29] uh,

[26:29] the form of a check or bones.

Elliott Kalan

[26:31] The check could also be made out for bones,

[26:34] but not made out to bones.

[26:35] That's a TV show.

[26:37] They have enough money.

[26:39] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[26:39] Based on the amount of times they're on television,

[26:41] I would think so.

Elliott Kalan

[26:42] Dr.

[26:43] Saperstein.

[26:43] Uh,

[26:44] of course he gets a,

[26:45] his beeper goes off or for dogs is called a barker.

[26:48] Okay.

[26:50] Can we not do this?

[26:52] Uh,

[26:53] so we,

[26:53] we get a,

Stuart Wellington

[26:54] we get a title card for the next day.

[26:57] So we got to make,

[26:58] we're keeping our chronology straight.

[26:59] So to do that,

[27:01] Dan,

[27:01] what day is it?

[27:04] Today?

[27:05] I'll look it up.

[27:05] In the movie.

[27:06] What day is it?

[27:07] Okay.

Elliott Kalan

[27:08] I think it's Thursday.

[27:09] It's August 7th,

[27:11] 1969.

Stuart Wellington

[27:12] Okay.

[27:12] We cut to a scene of Abigail and Sharon going on a hike.

[27:17] Uh,

[27:18] there,

[27:19] Abigail was nervous about Woj's friends and drug use,

[27:24] how some like suspicious characters have been coming around.

[27:27] I don't know if she says characters.

[27:28] She says cats.

[27:29] There's a lot of awkward slang in this scene.

[27:32] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[27:32] And we should mention that.

[27:33] So Abigail and Wojak have been,

[27:36] they're there or Wojtek or whatever his name is.

[27:38] They've been there to take care of the house while Sharon and Roman are away.

[27:41] And Sharon is starting to get increasingly irritated with what they've been doing in the house.

[27:46] And this is a big moment of that when he,

[27:48] she's like,

[27:48] oh yeah,

[27:49] he's been inviting all these drug dealer friends.

[27:51] And Sharon's like,

[27:52] wait,

[27:52] why are you inviting drug dealer friends over to my house all the time?

[27:55] There's one part later where she's like,

[27:56] yeah,

[27:56] well we had this party.

[27:57] And it's like,

[27:58] wait,

[27:58] in my house?

[27:59] Like,

[27:59] she's just very casual about throwing parties in someone else's house.

[28:02] Dan,

[28:02] would you do that if you were house sitting for a famous person?

Dan McCoy

[28:05] Uh,

[28:06] for a famous person?

[28:07] Yes.

[28:08] Oh,

[28:08] okay.

[28:08] But not like a friend.

[28:11] It shows disrespect to my friend.

[28:13] But what if they're a famous person?

[28:14] I wanted to get everyone in here and be like,

[28:15] check out this famous person's house.

[28:16] Yeah,

Elliott Kalan

[28:17] but if like Shaq invited you to house sit for him,

[28:19] you'd invite me to have her.

[28:20] Sure.

[28:21] Because they're not friends.

Dan McCoy

[28:23] No,

[28:24] we're mortal enemies.

Natalie Walker

[28:26] But also,

[28:27] Abigail is an heiress,

[28:28] so she probably is just like,

[28:30] I have the right to do whatever I want.

Elliott Kalan

[28:32] All the coffee is mine.

[28:35] And Sharon complains that nobody's been calling her since she showed up.

[28:38] She's been home for a day,

[28:40] and she's mad no one's called her.

[28:42] And Abigail is like,

[28:43] we told everyone not to bother you because you're pregnant.

[28:45] We don't want the baby to come out at the wrong time,

[28:47] or something like that.

[28:48] Uh-huh.

Stuart Wellington

[28:49] That's why she looks at the cover of a script of Rosemary's baby later,

[28:53] and she shakes her head in anger.

Elliott Kalan

[28:56] She's like,

[28:57] oh,

[28:57] so Roman,

[28:58] you could be there for Rosemary when she was having her baby?

[29:02] So they're,

Stuart Wellington

[29:02] oh boy.

[29:04] So they're doing one of those classic L.A. hikes,

[29:07] where two characters hike around and have a conversation.

[29:10] Yeah,

[29:10] they're in the Hollywood Hills.

[29:11] Yep.

[29:11] And they are passed by a pair of,

[29:15] what the movie thinks are very creepy hikers,

[29:18] but seem like very normal looking people to me.

[29:22] The movie like slows down.

[29:24] We get some close-ups on their faces,

[29:25] but they seem kind of normal to me.

[29:27] We'll find out if they are.

[29:30] And then they,

[29:31] of course,

[29:32] come upon the final resting place of Dr. Saperstein.

[29:38] The movie does some clever editing tricks,

[29:41] and some bad special effects of maggots crawling around in a,

[29:45] in the,

[29:46] the poor passed away dog.

Natalie Walker

[29:47] They're really trying to give you the full hereditary effect with it.

[29:51] Like this little scene was really trying to do that.

[29:55] And it was,

[29:56] yeah,

[29:56] it's,

[29:56] it's less successful.

Stuart Wellington

[29:58] Yeah.

[29:58] It's,

[29:58] I think,

[30:00] I think critics will be the judge of that.

[30:02] Natalie,

[30:03] it's,

[30:05] it was one of those things where they're like,

[30:06] we have this prop that is not very good.

[30:09] We'll have to dress it up with some digital effects and we'll have the camera,

[30:13] like zoom in and out real fast and like shake around.

[30:17] And we'll go.

[30:18] Yeah.

Natalie Walker

[30:19] It was like an Instagram story was the reveal of that dog's death.

Stuart Wellington

[30:24] Okay.

[30:24] So we are introduced to a new character.

[30:27] The,

[30:28] who's also the new caretaker,

[30:29] uh,

[30:30] Steven parent.

[30:31] It's upon his shoulders that falls the task of burying Dr.

[30:35] Saperstein.

Elliott Kalan

[30:36] He,

[30:37] and he lives in like a,

[30:38] he lives in like a trailer on the grounds of their house.

[30:40] Right.

Dan McCoy

[30:42] It's wait.

[30:42] So I can't keep all these people straight cause they're so interchangeable.

[30:46] Is he the guy?

[30:46] There are five of them.

[30:47] Yeah.

[30:47] Is he the guy with glasses who like talks about backwards masking in that?

[30:51] Yes.

[30:52] Yes.

[30:53] Yes.

[30:53] Spoiler alert.

Natalie Walker

[30:54] They wanted him to be Jesse Plemons.

Elliott Kalan

[30:56] Mm hmm.

[30:56] And he wasn't Jesse Plemons.

[30:58] No,

[30:58] he certainly was not.

[31:00] By all accounts,

[31:01] he was not.

Natalie Walker

[31:02] Yeah.

[31:02] But on those glasses.

Elliott Kalan

[31:03] I mean,

Stuart Wellington

[31:05] I should check the,

[31:05] uh,

[31:06] check the cast list.

[31:06] Maybe it was Jesse Plemons.

[31:08] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[31:08] We'll have to do a DNA test on this one.

[31:10] Get me samples from both of them.

[31:13] Unless they're the same person,

[31:15] in which case I'll only need one sample.

Stuart Wellington

[31:17] So this is the scene where it all seems to come out.

[31:19] Sharon's.

[31:20] Check that one sample against itself.

Elliott Kalan

[31:22] Guess it's the same.

[31:23] Seems right.

[31:24] Yeah.

[31:24] We've got a Plemons,

[31:25] everybody.

[31:26] You know what they say?

[31:27] When you got Plemons,

[31:28] make Plemonade.

[31:29] And we did.

Stuart Wellington

[31:35] Uh,

[31:36] so,

[31:37] this all comes out,

[31:38] you know,

[31:39] uh,

[31:39] the emotion,

[31:39] the emotions hit her like a ton of bricks.

[31:42] She is pissed off.

[31:43] Uh,

[31:44] so she stomps away.

[31:45] She yells at her friend.

[31:46] She picks up a,

[31:47] uh,

[31:48] a teddy bear of a dog

[31:49] and has a very emotional moment with it.

Elliott Kalan

[31:52] Well,

[31:53] she did just lose her dog.

[31:54] She's like,

[31:54] I guess you're Dr.

[31:55] Saperstein now.

Stuart Wellington

[31:58] There's a lot of creaky doors.

[32:00] Uh,

[32:00] she walks around the house a little bit.

[32:01] She goes into Roman's study,

[32:03] which we know is a Roman study

[32:05] because there's boxes that says Roman stuff on it.

[32:08] Um,

[32:09] and then we find this spooky old,

[32:12] uh,

[32:12] stereo,

[32:13] like a reel to reel stereo machine.

[32:15] Of course,

[32:16] she starts listening to that stuff.

[32:17] And then we get some creepy music coming out of there.

[32:21] And there's a whole bunch of,

[32:22] pretty young girl.

[32:24] Yeah.

[32:24] Is this actual,

[32:25] uh,

[32:25] I think it's actual.

Elliott Kalan

[32:27] He had a song that was all about like,

[32:29] love is submission and you've got to submit to me.

[32:31] So I think that might be the real.

[32:33] So I don't,

[32:33] I don't think they were worried about like Manson suing them.

[32:37] Yeah.

[32:37] Misuse of the song.

[32:38] I think they probably used either the real,

[32:40] it might've been the real audio,

[32:42] but I doubt it.

[32:42] They probably just recorded.

[32:43] I think I,

Dan McCoy

[32:44] I actually think I read a review of this that took it to task in part for using the real

[32:48] song.

[32:49] They're like,

[32:49] come on movie.

[32:50] Yeah.

[32:50] You have,

[32:51] don't do this for Charles Manson.

Stuart Wellington

[32:53] Yeah.

[32:53] Josh Groban could have,

[32:55] could have just cut together something real quick.

Elliott Kalan

[32:57] Pretty girl with his,

[32:59] his ridiculously operatic voice.

[33:02] Absolutely.

[33:02] Or they could have gotten Randy Newman to do it or something like that.

[33:04] It would have been great.

Stuart Wellington

[33:05] It is.

[33:06] He is the voice of LA,

[33:07] you know?

[33:07] Maybe.

Elliott Kalan

[33:10] I was thinking the other day about how Randy Newman singing is maybe the sloppiest singing

[33:14] of a,

[33:14] of a professional recording artist.

[33:16] Like,

[33:16] I don't know what it is.

[33:18] Maybe that's just the way he talks,

[33:19] but it's,

[33:19] it always sounds like he's,

[33:21] he's not sure what word is coming out of his mouth until it's done.

[33:23] Right.

Natalie Walker

[33:24] It feels spontaneous.

[33:25] It feels like he's making up the songs on the spot.

[33:27] I think that's part of it.

Stuart Wellington

[33:28] It feels dangerous.

[33:29] It's like when the television show rock changed to only doing live shows.

[33:33] You know,

[33:34] that was,

[33:34] you never know what's going to happen.

Elliott Kalan

[33:35] They were on a tight rope,

[33:36] or as I should say,

[33:37] a tight rock on that one.

Stuart Wellington

[33:39] Should you say it?

[33:41] I guess not.

[33:41] It wasn't really making sense.

[33:42] Scientists disagree.

Elliott Kalan

[33:44] Four out of five dentists think I shouldn't have said it,

[33:46] and the fifth dentist wasn't listening.

Stuart Wellington

[33:49] So she,

[33:50] she starts listening to the music.

[33:51] There's a whole bunch of envelopes that are addressed to Terry from Charlie that are similar to the envelope that had been left on their porch earlier.

[34:01] It is written in the most like murderer font possible.

Elliott Kalan

[34:06] It might as well say kill you.

Stuart Wellington

[34:08] It is scary in the way that like heavy metal bands wish their logo was that scary.

[34:13] And of course the,

[34:15] the song like devolves into some kind of like haunted,

[34:19] creepy ghost sounds.

[34:21] Yep.

Elliott Kalan

[34:22] Yeah.

[34:22] Some kind of ominous chanting.

[34:24] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[34:24] Okay.

[34:25] So cut to our friends are hanging out by the pool.

[34:29] Sharon's reading a book about reincarnation.

[34:31] Yep.

Natalie Walker

[34:31] They have a nice little closeup on that book title.

Elliott Kalan

[34:35] And she's like scratching her chin,

[34:37] nodding her head.

[34:38] Yeah.

[34:38] They should have put a book in her head that was,

[34:40] so you're going to die.

Dan McCoy

[34:42] What to expect when you're expecting to be killed by the Manson family.

Elliott Kalan

[34:46] And you can still have a pregnant woman on the cover.

[34:48] It works perfectly,

[34:49] Dan.

Dan McCoy

[34:50] Oh boy.

[34:51] Too real.

[34:51] I want to make it clear.

[34:53] Again,

[34:53] we're not trying,

[34:54] we don't want to make fun of the real people who were trying to be killed.

[34:57] This movie is just terrible.

Elliott Kalan

[34:59] It's a terrible thing that real people lost their lives in a particularly horrible and senseless way.

[35:05] And we are taking the movie to task for creating what I thought at first was supposed to be a dramatization of the real events.

[35:11] But as we'll learn,

[35:12] is the craziest misuse of a real life tragedy.

[35:16] Which ultimately,

[35:17] I guess,

[35:17] seems to put the blame on the victims.

Stuart Wellington

[35:19] But we'll get to that.

[35:20] Sort of.

[35:21] Yeah.

[35:22] Well,

[35:22] based on this conversation,

[35:23] maybe,

[35:24] because she has a conversation with her friend,

[35:26] Jay Sebring,

[35:27] who is wearing a swimsuit that I would very much like to own.

[35:31] But we'll get to that later.

[35:32] Yeah.

[35:33] It is.

Elliott Kalan

[35:33] It's very Stuart Wellington style in that it covers almost nothing.

Stuart Wellington

[35:36] Uh-huh.

[35:37] And it's,

[35:37] he manages to pull off like a super small white swimsuit that I'm like,

[35:41] there's no way I could do that.

[35:43] But we'll get up.

Elliott Kalan

[35:43] This movie,

[35:44] it's got a lot of both of the male leads just wearing tiny either swimsuits or underpants to show off how they all have like 14 packs.

[35:52] And I can't believe that anyone in the 60s was that ridiculously chiseled.

[35:57] Like back then,

[35:57] bodybuilding had not developed to what it is today.

[36:00] Dan,

[36:00] you're kind of an amateur bodybuilder.

[36:02] What do you think?

[36:02] Am I wrong on that?

Dan McCoy

[36:04] I would call myself the most amateur bodybuilder.

Elliott Kalan

[36:08] Okay.

[36:08] I mean,

[36:09] you have a body.

[36:10] You built it.

Dan McCoy

[36:11] I,

[36:11] there was a time at which I went to the gym and lifted weights and that time is long ago.

[36:17] Cool.

Stuart Wellington

[36:18] So they,

[36:20] uh,

[36:20] so they have a conversation.

[36:21] They talk about fate and destiny.

[36:25] Jay suggests that sometimes bad things just happen.

[36:29] Sharon asks,

[36:29] do you think we're just slaves to our own destiny?

[36:33] Um,

[36:33] and Jay explains that maybe,

[36:36] maybe they can rewrite their own scripts.

[36:39] Hmm.

[36:40] Okay.

[36:41] These are real things that they're saying.

Natalie Walker

[36:43] Yeah.

[36:44] I mean,

[36:44] this is the way that I talk to my friends around a pool.

Elliott Kalan

[36:49] Yeah.

[36:49] Natalie,

[36:49] is this just the way that like show people talk?

[36:52] Oh,

[36:52] totally.

Natalie Walker

[36:53] No,

[36:53] absolutely not.

[36:54] I mean,

[36:55] when you're like in college,

[36:56] when you're in a dorm room in college and you've just done like a doll's house and scene study,

[37:01] then maybe you go home and do that.

[37:03] But yeah,

[37:03] this,

[37:04] the,

[37:04] the level of conversation about destiny.

[37:08] Are we slaves to our own destiny?

[37:10] Kelsey.

[37:12] Kelsey Peters.

Stuart Wellington

[37:13] Now,

[37:14] the thing is,

[37:15] do you think Kelsey Peters on the television show,

[37:17] Younger is a slave to her own destiny?

[37:19] Is she just being set up for a fall?

[37:21] I think she is.

[37:21] She's a fortune fool.

[37:22] Yeah.

[37:23] Kind of is.

[37:24] I mean,

[37:24] they do address the idea that oftentimes when a woman is promoted to CEO,

[37:28] it's after a man's failures and they're simply being set up to fail.

[37:31] But well,

[37:32] that's something that is explored in depth in the television show,

[37:35] Younger.

Elliott Kalan

[37:35] We'll talk about that.

[37:36] Younger get around to talking about the perfect storm.

Stuart Wellington

[37:39] I mean,

[37:40] I feel like the perfect storm would be the type of book that would be pushed by empirical publishing rather than millennial.

[37:46] So I'm not as interested.

[37:48] Yeah.

Natalie Walker

[37:48] And millennial is really pushing like,

[37:51] be a bitch to get a hat.

Elliott Kalan

[37:53] That's exactly the kind of book.

[37:55] I mean,

[37:56] Oh,

[37:56] for sure.

[37:57] They're smart.

Natalie Walker

[37:58] Young women are smart.

[37:59] That's why I'm here,

[38:00] Elliot.

[38:01] I'm here to take over the Flophouse.

Elliott Kalan

[38:03] No.

[38:04] Oh,

[38:04] I mean,

[38:04] free us from our curse.

Dan McCoy

[38:05] Why are you standing in Natalie's way,

[38:07] Elliot,

[38:07] as you have been for the last decade?

Elliott Kalan

[38:09] I would love nothing more than to get out of Natalie's way and do something else with my time than watch The Haunting of Sharon Tate.

Stuart Wellington

[38:16] Yeah,

[38:16] I'm gladly standing here with the keys,

[38:18] the Flophouse,

[38:19] ready to surrender them.

Elliott Kalan

[38:20] I've been looking for another person to come and be the defender of the grail as I've been stuck here for a thousand years.

[38:26] I would love that.

Stuart Wellington

[38:28] Well,

[38:29] maybe if you presented the,

[38:31] if you presented Christ's cup in a way that was a little more appealing.

Elliott Kalan

[38:34] I guess than just as one of many cups on a table.

[38:40] Uh-huh.

Stuart Wellington

[38:41] And next to a bunch of like awesome gold ones.

[38:43] I mean,

[38:43] get those out of there.

Dan McCoy

[38:45] It's sort of presented like,

[38:46] I don't know if they do this anymore in the Wheel of Fortune,

[38:49] but you remember in the old days on Wheel of Fortune,

[38:50] where they would just like cut to like a room full of stuff.

[38:53] And they'd be like,

[38:54] you could get this thing or that thing.

Elliott Kalan

[38:56] When you had to spend your money on Wheel of Fortune on prizes.

Dan McCoy

[38:59] Yeah.

[38:59] And it was like a statue of a dog or something.

[39:01] I don't want that.

Stuart Wellington

[39:06] But I mean,

[39:07] it's like a hand carved statue of a dog.

[39:09] And where else could,

[39:10] you can't buy that with money.

[39:11] Just give me the cash,

[39:12] man.

Natalie Walker

[39:12] They could have used that for this movie.

Stuart Wellington

[39:14] That would have been a better prop.

[39:16] If only they had put a statue of a dog instead of,

[39:19] uh,

[39:19] subjecting our friend,

[39:21] Dr.

[39:21] Seber,

[39:22] no,

[39:22] Dr.

[39:22] Seberstein to the machinations of monsters.

[39:25] So,

[39:26] uh,

[39:26] we get some more bullshit.

[39:28] Uh,

[39:28] okay.

[39:30] So it's nighttime.

[39:32] We get a,

[39:33] uh,

[39:33] it's nighttime.

[39:34] We get a home invasion.

[39:35] Uh,

[39:36] there's a haunted stereo that,

[39:38] uh,

[39:38] you know,

[39:39] Sharon is awoken by this home invasion.

[39:41] We see creepy,

[39:43] like creepy people sneaking up to the window and waving.

[39:46] We see a creepy dude with a gun.

[39:49] Sharon investigates the,

[39:50] uh,

[39:51] creepy music that seems to be playing on its own.

[39:54] Uh,

[39:54] right before she turns it off,

[39:55] she looks to the right and there in the shadows is Charles Manson.

[39:59] And then a woman sneaks up behind her with a knife.

[40:02] Uh,

[40:02] they're all captured and taken to the living room and the home invaders then,

[40:08] uh,

[40:08] start murdering them.

[40:09] It is kind of,

[40:11] it's,

[40:11] it's shot kind of provunctory.

[40:13] Uh,

[40:14] it's pretty like,

[40:15] I hate to describe it as kind of goofy,

[40:17] but it's kind of goofy.

[40:18] There's like a lot of like chomping down on blood capsules,

[40:22] spitting out blood all over.

[40:23] Oh,

[40:23] really?

[40:23] I found it like,

Dan McCoy

[40:25] maybe it's just because I knew it's based on real events that I found it

[40:28] like prolonged and grizzly.

[40:30] Oh,

[40:30] yeah,

[40:31] that's fair.

Elliott Kalan

[40:31] They,

[40:31] they,

[40:32] they stab Abigail a lot.

[40:34] Like it's really prolonged and like unnecessarily like gruesome.

[40:38] But I think you're right,

[40:38] Dan,

[40:39] it's mainly because we know something like this happens to people.

[40:42] Yeah.

[40:43] And at this moment.

Natalie Walker

[40:44] It's not like dumb fake kids in the woods.

[40:46] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[40:47] Yeah.

[40:47] That's fair.

[40:47] You deserve to die.

[40:49] No.

[40:51] Dan,

[40:51] that's,

[40:52] that's the most extreme version of get off my lawn.

[40:54] I can imagine.

Stuart Wellington

[40:55] I mean,

[40:56] those kids are slaves to their destiny and their destiny is Dan puts it is to

[40:59] die.

[40:59] I guess.

[41:00] I mean,

Elliott Kalan

[41:00] all of our destinies is to die.

[41:02] To be honest,

[41:03] we're all,

[41:03] it's all going to happen.

[41:03] All of us.

[41:04] Not,

[41:04] not,

[41:05] not if,

Stuart Wellington

[41:05] not if this ritual works out,

[41:07] Elliot,

Elliott Kalan

[41:08] but for sure,

[41:09] you're right.

[41:09] Hand me that,

[41:10] hand me that lizard.

[41:11] I'll drain all the blood into this goblet and then we'll see if we can get

[41:14] going with the ritual.

Stuart Wellington

[41:15] Uh,

[41:16] Elliot,

[41:16] you're not allowed to drain a lizard on the podcast.

[41:19] Oh boy.

Dan McCoy

[41:20] But I just wanted to say though,

[41:22] at this point,

[41:23] the,

[41:23] so Sharon Tate and her friends have been killed and there's quite a lot of

[41:27] movie left.

[41:27] And you're like,

[41:28] wait,

[41:28] hold on.

[41:29] What's going on?

Stuart Wellington

[41:30] Yep.

[41:31] I was like,

[41:31] man,

[41:32] that's,

[41:32] that's a lot of time for bloops.

Elliott Kalan

[41:36] That'd be amazing.

[41:37] If there's just 40 minutes of bloopers afterwards.

Stuart Wellington

[41:40] Yeah.

[41:40] And depending on how you view the rest of the events of the movie,

[41:43] it could be considered bloops.

Elliott Kalan

[41:44] Um,

[41:45] because it turns out what,

[41:46] what were,

[41:46] what actually was the events of that night?

Stuart Wellington

[41:48] Part of the thing that I found made this sequence kind of difficult to watch is

[41:52] that like the things that,

[41:54] the things that the actors are saying feels like stuff that was taken from true

[41:58] accounts of the actual event,

[42:00] which makes it kind of harder to watch for me than like all the other scenes

[42:05] where people are like reading the dumbest lines I've ever heard in a movie.

[42:10] Right.

Natalie Walker

[42:10] Like when Sharon starts calling for her mother,

[42:14] like those were her last words.

[42:15] Yeah.

[42:16] It's horrible.

[42:17] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[42:17] It's,

[42:18] and if it feels,

[42:18] it feels,

[42:19] there's something about like having seen a couple of biopics that also depict true

[42:24] crime stuff.

[42:25] It's so weird to me when a filmmaker puts so much effort into accurately representing the,

[42:31] the moments of violence,

[42:32] but don't care about the other stuff.

[42:34] And it like,

[42:36] it feels so,

[42:37] it,

[42:37] it just cheapens the whole process.

[42:39] Like watching the Lords of chaos,

[42:41] black metal,

[42:41] uh,

[42:42] biopic about the stuff in the nineties in Norway.

[42:46] And like,

[42:48] it feels like they're recreating the exact number of times one dude stabs his friend,

[42:52] but like everything else feels like lazy made up whole cloth,

[42:57] you know,

[42:57] like Bohemian Rhapsody.

[42:59] Um,

[42:59] uh,

[43:00] so Sharon,

[43:00] who got stabbed in Bohemian Rhapsody?

[43:03] Uh,

[43:03] I don't want to spoil it for you,

[43:04] Elliot,

[43:04] cause I know you haven't seen it,

[43:05] but,

[43:06] um,

[43:06] I,

Elliott Kalan

[43:06] I,

[43:06] actually,

[43:07] here's what I saw in Bohemian Rhapsody.

[43:08] I,

[43:08] I watched the very ending and then I also saw someone,

[43:12] I saw someone was watching it on a plane and I just kept looking over and I was like,

[43:16] this is the goofiest looking movie.

[43:18] Like,

[43:19] I don't know why it was necessary for Rami Malek to have to literally have a horse's full set

[43:24] of teeth put in his mouth in order to play the role.

Natalie Walker

[43:27] His head is too small.

[43:28] His face is too small for those teeth.

[43:30] His face couldn't handle it.

[43:32] I would not have given him the role just based on face size.

[43:35] I'm sorry,

[43:35] guys.

Dan McCoy

[43:36] Best actor winner,

[43:39] Rami Malek.

Stuart Wellington

[43:40] I do,

[43:40] I do love that the,

[43:41] uh,

[43:41] that his,

[43:42] uh,

[43:42] his little clip that they use for his,

[43:44] his best actor performance is him lip syncing to a song.

[43:49] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[43:50] But doing a great job of it.

[43:51] I will,

[43:51] I will say he deserves an award,

[43:53] I guess,

[43:53] for acting with what must have been the most difficult facial prosthetics since Planet of the Apes.

[43:58] I guess.

[43:59] Like,

[44:00] it must be really hard to act when there's like,

[44:02] like there's a,

[44:04] basically like an entire chalkboard in your mouth at the time while you're doing it.

[44:07] But,

[44:08] yeah.

[44:08] To be fair,

Dan McCoy

[44:09] to be fair,

[44:10] his performance is not what's wrong with that movie.

[44:11] He does a good job.

[44:12] Yeah.

[44:13] He does a good job in a piece of trash.

Stuart Wellington

[44:15] Rami Malek,

[44:16] if you're listening to this,

[44:17] you know,

[44:18] it's cool,

[44:18] buddy.

[44:18] Rami,

[44:19] I think it's cute that your face is small.

Elliott Kalan

[44:21] And,

[44:22] and I'm glad we could bring up another movie where the director was like Roman Polanski,

[44:26] just a cool dude,

[44:28] just a real good guy,

[44:29] just a real awesome guy who live in a sterling,

[44:33] stainless life and not at all a destroyer of other people's lives.

[44:36] Nope.

Stuart Wellington

[44:36] So after watching this horrible sequence,

[44:39] Sharon wakes up.

[44:40] It was just a dream.

[44:43] Oh boy.

[44:44] Okay.

[44:44] Now we have a new,

[44:45] uh,

[44:46] we have a new title card.

[44:48] It is Friday.

[44:49] It is the next day.

[44:51] Keeping us on track.

[44:52] Uh,

[44:52] this is where we have a little scene in the breakfast table.

[44:55] Whoa.

[44:56] What is it?

[44:56] Whoa.

[44:57] Whoa.

[44:58] Voight,

[44:58] whatever.

[44:59] Voight check.

[45:00] Yep.

[45:00] Is wearing a very cool kimono.

[45:03] Uh,

[45:04] Sharon then decides to go get a snack from the fridge.

[45:06] Oh,

[45:07] there's a disgusting rotting animal in the refrigerator.

Dan McCoy

[45:10] Oh,

[45:11] Zool's in there.

Stuart Wellington

[45:13] She keeps insisting there's a dead animal.

[45:16] Of course,

[45:16] there's no dead animal.

[45:17] She's just imagining things.

[45:19] Her friends are being bad.

[45:20] Yep.

[45:20] She's right.

Elliott Kalan

[45:21] If there's any meat in the fridge,

[45:23] there's a dead animal in there.

[45:24] Maybe there's some ham.

[45:25] Maybe there's some leftover chicken.

[45:27] She's right.

[45:27] It's not the dead animal she was scared of,

[45:30] but unless we're vegetarians,

[45:32] all of our fridges have dead animals in them.

[45:34] So like,

[45:34] let's just,

[45:34] let's just admit that she's,

[45:36] right and be okay with that.

[45:37] You know?

Dan McCoy

[45:38] Okay.

[45:38] I guess,

[45:39] uh,

[45:40] I guess I find for you,

[45:41] Elliot on all counts.

[45:43] Yeah.

[45:44] Case dismissed.

Elliott Kalan

[45:45] Justice Bud,

[45:46] Justice Air Buds says that I'm right on this case.

Stuart Wellington

[45:49] Wow.

[45:50] He's air.

[45:51] Wait,

[45:51] Air Bud is the judge.

[45:52] Oh,

[45:52] wait,

[45:52] I guess justice is the name of a judge.

[45:54] Not like,

[45:55] not like the,

[45:56] the justice is the name of the fish.

[45:59] Justice is also the name of the fish.

[46:01] Natalie says with the intensity of somebody who loves serenity.

[46:04] Okay.

[46:07] So her friends are being mean to her.

[46:09] They're trying to calm her down.

[46:10] They keep trying to be like,

[46:11] you're just imagining things or he's,

[46:14] he's actually a great guy.

[46:15] He just cares for you.

[46:16] And she does not,

[46:17] she's not hearing it.

[46:18] She,

[46:19] well,

[46:20] she is hearing it.

Elliott Kalan

[46:20] That's what's making her so mad.

Stuart Wellington

[46:22] That's true.

[46:22] So she,

[46:23] she's not,

[46:23] she tries to get out of there.

[46:25] She's trying to get to the bottom of her visions.

[46:28] She goes and enlists the aid of Steven,

[46:32] the groundskeeper,

[46:34] Steven parent to help her do something with the,

[46:38] like figure out what's wrong with the,

[46:40] the stereo.

[46:42] They listened to the song again.

[46:44] They talk about how she,

[46:46] while he's fiddling with the stereo,

[46:48] probably to make it from just starting up,

[46:50] and playing whenever things are supposed to be scary.

[46:54] She,

[46:54] she,

Elliott Kalan

[46:55] he's like,

[46:55] Oh,

[46:55] here's the thing.

[46:56] This stereo is set to ominous.

Stuart Wellington

[46:58] Yep.

[46:58] You got to set it to normal play.

[47:00] Uh huh.

[47:01] Yeah.

[47:01] I,

[47:01] every time I go visit my parents,

[47:03] I have to go make that adjustment on the stereo.

[47:07] So Sharon literally says,

[47:09] he's a real gadget guy.

[47:10] He's a real gadget guy.

[47:10] She,

[47:11] she says,

[47:11] you're really into gadgets.

[47:12] And then says,

[47:13] you could be a world famous inventor someday.

[47:17] Then he talks about how he hasn't seen his parents in a while.

[47:20] And she,

[47:21] and they agree that he should probably go say goodbye to them or something.

[47:24] It's this really weird moment where you're like,

Elliott Kalan

[47:27] He's,

[47:27] he's a,

[47:28] it's,

[47:28] it's a weird,

[47:29] there's,

[47:29] they're trying to build a lot into this character.

[47:31] And I guess it's like another example of the movie saying like,

[47:33] Oh,

[47:34] what potential lost that this guy was murdered.

[47:37] He could have been a great inventor someday.

[47:38] Maybe who knows what his destiny was.

[47:40] And then he becomes like a real,

[47:41] like anti consumerism,

[47:44] like hardcore,

[47:46] like,

[47:47] like,

[47:47] like avant-garde guy,

[47:49] like out of nowhere.

[47:50] Well,

[47:50] that's like,

[47:51] like,

Dan McCoy

[47:51] he's like the only guy that stood out for me,

[47:54] but it was because the actor was playing him like such a sweaty weirdo.

[47:57] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[47:59] He's like Dennis Weaver in touch of evil.

[48:01] Like that's the kind of character he's playing here.

[48:03] The weird hotel owner who's like,

[48:05] go,

[48:05] like running around being a creep.

Stuart Wellington

[48:08] I do like,

[48:09] I do like the idea that she,

[48:10] she has this conversation.

[48:11] This guy seems like the sweet guy kind of down to earth,

[48:14] good with his hands.

[48:15] And then he starts like,

[48:16] like always starts freaking out about like subliminal messaging.

Dan McCoy

[48:21] Because there's backwards masking in this Charles Manson song.

[48:24] You know,

[48:25] if you run the tape backwards,

[48:26] you hear a message from him.

[48:27] I forget what it is.

[48:28] Do you remember?

[48:29] Helter Skelter.

[48:30] Oh yes.

Elliott Kalan

[48:30] What's the phrase most associated with Charles Manson dance?

[48:34] Okay.

[48:34] Because that's what it is.

Dan McCoy

[48:35] I've blocked this movie out of my mind.

Elliott Kalan

[48:37] It's something,

[48:38] some Beatles song,

[48:38] I guess they're saying here,

[48:39] there and everywhere over and over again in the back.

Dan McCoy

[48:42] Yeah.

[48:43] Wild honey pie.

Elliott Kalan

[48:44] But yeah,

[48:44] I think he's saying imagine,

[48:46] but that was a solo album and it came out much later.

Stuart Wellington

[48:48] He talks about how sometimes people use backward masking to disguise satanic stuff

[48:54] or satanic messages.

[48:55] And Hilary Duff does this great line reading where she goes,

[48:58] say tanic.

[49:00] That's great.

Dan McCoy

[49:03] But also at this point he like starts pacing around and the movie starts like cutting like crazy.

[49:07] And he's like,

[49:08] he's like,

[49:08] yeah,

[49:08] advertisers use this all the time.

[49:10] And he's like laying out this big conspiracy theory.

[49:12] To make you buy things to be zombies,

Elliott Kalan

[49:13] to buy things you don't need or want.

[49:15] And it's,

[49:15] I was like,

[49:16] oh,

[49:17] I finally understand what it's like when a woman goes on a first date.

[49:22] This is what it's like.

[49:24] Oh,

[49:24] you're a real,

[49:25] you're,

[49:25] you're a real gadget guy.

[49:26] You could be an inventor.

[49:27] Let me continue to compliment you.

[49:29] Yeah.

[49:29] Thanks.

[49:30] Anyway,

[49:30] government's lying to you and I'm a crazy person.

Dan McCoy

[49:33] But also I feel like this was like,

[49:35] I feel like this is somewhat accurate to the period.

[49:38] There was like a subliminal message,

[49:40] like scare,

[49:41] but at the same time,

[49:41] from our perspective in 2019,

[49:44] like when we know how much bullshit like subliminal messaging is,

[49:48] it was just kind of like,

[49:49] oh,

[49:49] whatever,

[49:50] this guy's nuts.

[49:51] Well,

[49:52] I think,

Elliott Kalan

[49:52] and I think the subliminal message,

[49:54] I guess there was around then people wondered about it,

[49:56] but I feel like the big scare came years later,

Dan McCoy

[49:59] you know,

[49:59] with like heavy metal.

[50:01] Yeah.

[50:01] With like,

Elliott Kalan

[50:02] with like a better by you,

[50:03] better than,

[50:04] better than me and stuff like that,

[50:05] where they were like,

[50:05] oh,

[50:06] there's messages in these songs telling people to kill themselves,

[50:08] which was all crazy.

[50:10] But like,

[50:10] uh,

[50:11] maybe I'm wrong.

[50:11] Maybe they were into it back then too.

[50:13] Cause there was all that revolution number nine,

[50:15] backwards masking talk and things like that.

[50:18] Dan,

[50:18] maybe you're right.

[50:18] You know what?

[50:19] Strike what I said.

[50:20] Justice air,

[50:21] bud,

[50:21] strike what I said from the record.

Stuart Wellington

[50:23] So that's when the phone rings,

[50:25] interrupting his,

[50:26] uh,

[50:27] his rant.

[50:27] And the phone is for Sharon,

[50:29] but we're in this guy's weird trailer.

[50:32] Uh,

[50:33] she puts the phone to her ear.

[50:35] We just see her side of the conversation where she is very upset.

[50:38] She explains that it was a threat from Charlie saying they're all going to die.

[50:45] Okay.

[50:46] Cut until nighttime where she's in her bedroom packing.

Elliott Kalan

[50:50] she,

[50:51] uh,

[50:51] she spends some time remembering,

[50:53] actual footage of,

[50:54] of the real wedding of Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate,

[50:57] which is a weird choice.

[50:58] It's a very strange choice.

Stuart Wellington

[51:00] Yeah.

[51:01] And it's,

[51:01] so it does,

[51:02] if it does feel a little strange at this point that she just got a threat and then it seems like she waited hours to pack up.

Natalie Walker

[51:10] Well,

[51:10] she had to watch the footage of her wedding.

Elliott Kalan

[51:13] Yeah.

[51:14] Uh,

[51:15] we have,

[51:16] like me.

[51:17] She said,

[51:17] I mean,

[51:18] you know,

[51:18] we're,

[51:18] and it's less poignant than the scene in National Lampoon's Christmas vacation.

[51:23] where Clark Griswold watches his old home movies in the attic.

[51:26] Like that's a,

[51:27] that's the level of emotion we're working with in the movie right now.

Stuart Wellington

[51:31] So there's a moment while she's packing up that she thinks she sees,

[51:35] uh,

[51:35] Charles Manson in the mirror.

[51:36] That is not the case.

[51:37] He's not actually there.

[51:39] The phone rings and it is not a monster.

[51:43] Well,

[51:43] no,

[51:43] it is a monster.

[51:44] Uh,

[51:44] it's Roman Polanski.

[51:47] And once again,

[51:48] we get a one-sided conversation with her,

[51:50] uh,

[51:51] talking.

[51:52] I mean,

[51:52] Hillary Duff has given it her everything similar to the way that Kelsey Peters kind of gives it her everything,

[51:57] uh,

[51:58] when trying to promote millennial.

[51:59] And she'll go to kind of any,

[52:00] like,

[52:01] she'll do anything she can to like help promote her brand.

[52:04] Um,

[52:05] you're listening to the young house,

Elliott Kalan

[52:06] the internet's premier younger podcast hosted by Stuart Wellington and nobody else.

[52:11] A decidedly older person.

Natalie Walker

[52:12] I just,

[52:13] I just sit here and watch.

[52:15] I'm like technically part of it,

[52:17] but I like really just watch Stuart talk about younger.

Stuart Wellington

[52:20] We haven't even done the entire segment that's just devoted to each episode's necklace that Miriam Shore wears.

[52:27] Miriam Shore wears.

[52:27] Yeah,

[52:27] Diana Trout.

[52:28] What a,

[52:29] what an actress.

[52:29] She's great.

[52:30] Um,

[52:30] okay.

[52:31] Were you about to say she isn't a treasure fan?

[52:33] Cause,

[52:34] uh,

[52:34] we would start fighting.

[52:36] Diana Younger,

[52:37] I have less to say about it than you apparently,

[52:38] but.

[52:39] Okay.

[52:39] So it seems,

[52:41] uh,

[52:41] it seems like Roman doesn't believe her that her,

[52:44] that her friends are in on a conspiracy against her.

[52:48] Her friends start banging on the door.

[52:50] She goes and hides in the bathroom and starts filling up the tub or sink.

[52:54] And all of a sudden the tub,

[52:56] tub starts filling with blood.

[52:58] No,

Stuart Wellington

[52:58] no,

Elliott Kalan

[52:58] it's one of those huge ground level sinks that Hollywood homes have.

[53:02] Yep.

[53:03] These sinks are so big.

[53:04] You could take a bath in them.

Stuart Wellington

[53:05] Uh huh.

[53:06] Wow.

[53:06] Uh,

[53:07] is that,

[53:07] is that what the realtor said to get you to purchase your recent home home purchase?

[53:11] Yes.

Elliott Kalan

[53:11] They,

[53:11] I was like,

[53:12] is there a bathtub in here?

[53:14] They said,

[53:14] no,

[53:14] but there is this huge ground level sink that's so big that you could take a bath in it.

[53:18] And I was like,

[53:18] oh,

[53:19] okay.

[53:19] I guess,

[53:19] would you call it a bathtub?

[53:21] I guess you could call it that if you were ignorant of architecture.

[53:24] Okay.

[53:24] I'm sorry.

[53:25] I didn't understand that.

[53:26] I feel so stupid now.

[53:27] I better buy this house.

[53:28] So the,

[53:28] so the real estate agent thinks I'm cool.

[53:30] And that's how it happened.

Stuart Wellington

[53:31] Okay.

[53:33] He pressured you into doing it just so you'd think he was cool.

[53:36] Yeah.

[53:36] Or no,

[53:37] that he would think you were cool.

[53:37] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[53:38] Okay.

[53:39] It was a she.

[53:40] Okay.

[53:40] Thank you.

[53:41] And that's,

[53:41] that's the answer to that riddle.

[53:42] The real estate agent was a woman.

[53:45] I can't sell this house.

[53:46] This house is my son.

[53:48] How is it possible?

Dan McCoy

[53:51] Wait,

[53:51] you,

[53:51] you explained the part of it that I understood.

[53:54] There's a,

[53:55] there's a question that I still have about the thrill.

Elliott Kalan

[53:59] No,

[53:59] no.

[53:59] Anyway,

[54:00] the other,

[54:00] the other joke is a doctor.

[54:02] I can't sell some,

[54:03] sell myself a home.

[54:04] I am the real estate agent.

[54:06] Uh,

[54:07] we didn't.

[54:07] What other,

[54:07] what other memes can we talk about?

[54:09] What other memes are there on Twitter right now?

[54:11] So name this movie.

[54:12] Wrong answers only.

[54:14] Oh no.

[54:14] We can do,

Dan McCoy

[54:15] uh,

[54:16] you know,

[54:16] I've eaten the plums that are in the icebox thing.

[54:18] If you,

[54:19] uh,

[54:19] Oh yeah,

[54:19] there's that too.

[54:20] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[54:20] So the,

[54:23] uh,

[54:23] the sink tub fills with blood.

[54:26] The phone,

[54:27] it is no longer Roman speaking with her.

[54:29] It is that subliminal message from the end of the tape.

[54:32] And then,

[54:33] uh,

[54:34] she wakes up.

[54:35] She was sleeping in Steven's bed in his,

[54:38] uh,

[54:39] in his room.

[54:40] It,

[54:40] I guess she,

[54:41] he explains that she had just recently,

[54:43] uh,

[54:43] like after hearing that phone call,

[54:45] she took a lie down.

[54:48] Seems like an odd choice,

[54:49] but whatever.

[54:50] Um,

[54:51] uh,

[54:51] then she,

[54:52] she feels some pain in her stomach,

[54:54] in her,

[54:55] you know,

[54:55] abdomen.

[54:56] And they're like,

[54:57] wait,

[54:57] is the baby coming?

[54:59] And at this point I'm like,

[55:00] whoa,

[55:00] this will,

[55:01] this is a crazy choice.

[55:03] Um,

[55:03] and then they realized that the,

[55:05] uh,

[55:06] the phone line has been cut.

[55:08] Steven goes to get help,

[55:09] but as he's very slowly pulling out of the driveway,

[55:14] this is safety,

[55:15] always safety.

Elliott Kalan

[55:16] Steven,

[55:16] they call him takes forever.

Stuart Wellington

[55:18] Uh,

[55:19] the,

[55:20] the Manson family pulls up in their car,

[55:23] blocking his exit.

[55:24] Sharon gets into the car and they try to back away and run.

[55:28] The car gets in an accident and they jump out of the car and go running down the hill.

[55:33] They manage to sneak back into the house.

[55:35] Uh,

[55:36] they try and alert their friends that,

[55:38] uh,

[55:38] they're being attacked.

[55:39] They start to,

[55:40] uh,

[55:40] secure the home.

[55:42] Uh,

[55:42] meanwhile,

[55:43] the women who are part of the Manson family are like walking along the lawn saying like,

[55:49] little pig,

[55:50] let us in.

[55:51] Uh,

[55:52] and it's,

Natalie Walker

[55:52] we'll hop and we'll puff and we'll blow your house in.

[55:55] So they're just rhyming in within.

[55:58] And that's also not the rhyme.

[56:01] Like,

[56:01] it's,

[56:02] well,

Stuart Wellington

[56:03] I think they're saying that's the biggest crime they commit over the course of the movie.

[56:07] Yeah,

Natalie Walker

[56:07] I would say so.

[56:08] Fuck you,

[56:08] Patricia Krenwinkel.

[56:09] That's not how it goes.

Elliott Kalan

[56:11] I think it really feels like much like Randy Newman.

[56:14] They started the song not knowing how it would end.

[56:16] oh yeah,

[56:17] he mentions a chinny chin chin.

[56:18] Uh,

[56:18] let's not say that.

[56:19] That's not scary.

[56:20] Uh,

[56:20] we'll just rhyme in within.

[56:22] That's what we'll do.

Natalie Walker

[56:23] And then little pig.

Dan McCoy

[56:26] Yeah,

[56:26] they're saying it in the strangest way.

[56:27] And this is the part where it becomes clear.

[56:30] I mean,

[56:30] like it's,

[56:30] it's become clear way earlier than this,

[56:32] but this is like the most egregious thing that they like,

[56:35] they have just turned.

[56:36] Is this the most egregious thing?

[56:37] Well,

[56:37] no,

[56:37] I,

[56:38] let me finish my sentence.

[56:39] The most egregious example of them,

[56:41] just turning this tragedy into a rote home invasion thriller.

[56:45] Yeah.

[56:45] Cause like,

[56:46] they might as well be like the strangers at this point.

[56:48] So,

[56:48] yeah.

[56:49] Except they don't have masks,

Stuart Wellington

[56:50] but I feel like there's probably a moment while making the movie where they're like,

[56:54] wouldn't it be scarier if they wore masks?

[56:57] uh,

[56:57] well that didn't actually happen.

[57:00] Okay.

Elliott Kalan

[57:01] Well,

[57:01] what if they were like bug people and they could spit acid at everybody?

[57:05] Again,

[57:06] not what happens,

[57:07] not,

[57:07] not reality,

[57:08] but I would say Dan,

[57:09] I,

[57:10] that's the second most egregious,

[57:11] thing to me.

[57:12] And I'll tell you what the most egregious thing is when we get to it after this.

Dan McCoy

[57:15] Hey folks,

[57:16] are you worried about home security?

Elliott Kalan

[57:18] I know I am as a new homeowner who just watched this Charles Manson movie,

[57:21] not a good movie.

[57:22] And yet every night I worry that some crazy person is going to wander into my backyard.

[57:27] So,

[57:27] you know,

[57:27] you do what I do.

[57:29] Check all the locks on your doors 15 times every night.

[57:33] This is Elliot Kalin for paranoia.

[57:35] Dan,

Dan McCoy

[57:35] back to you.

[57:36] Okay.

[57:36] I'm glad that you identified because I was going to ask you what the ad was for.

Elliott Kalan

[57:40] Oh yeah.

[57:41] Yeah.

[57:41] For being paranoid and worried that at any moment a crazy person will walk in and they'll just

[57:45] be like standing at the foot of your bed looking at you.

[57:48] That's the scariest thing.

[57:50] That sounds pretty scary.

Stuart Wellington

[57:52] I mean,

[57:54] but sometimes what if you're just lonely and you'd like somebody to talk to?

[57:57] This is me doing my ad for loneliness cured by having strangers walk into your home.

Elliott Kalan

[58:04] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[58:05] Has this ever happened to you?

[58:06] Boy,

[58:06] am I lonely.

[58:07] I wish a stranger would walk in and be my friend.

[58:09] Well,

[58:09] guess what?

[58:09] You're in luck.

[58:10] Just leave your doors unlocked.

Stuart Wellington

[58:14] Yeah.

[58:15] Leave a trail of pennies,

[58:17] Reese's Pieces,

[58:18] whatever,

[58:18] leading into your home.

Elliott Kalan

[58:21] Hopefully a dog,

[58:22] an alien,

[58:23] maybe a crazy person.

[58:25] Yep.

[58:26] Hi,

[58:26] I'm Natalie Walker for regret.

[58:28] I thought it would be cool to be a guest on a podcast I like.

[58:31] I was wrong.

[58:32] Now I'm worried for my safety.

[58:34] Natalie Walker for regret.

Natalie Walker

[58:37] That was a very good impression of me,

[58:39] Elliot.

Stuart Wellington

[58:39] Oh,

[58:40] no problem.

[58:40] You should have slapped that up on Twitter.

Natalie Walker

[58:43] Yeah,

[58:43] Elliot,

[58:44] you should do the ADR for any future projects that I do.

Elliott Kalan

[58:46] I've seen,

[58:47] I saw the videos of you doing different ladies,

[58:50] parts in movies.

[58:51] And I was like,

[58:51] she's a master of voices.

[58:53] She can do any voice.

[58:54] So why couldn't she sound just like me?

[58:56] Just like you.

[58:56] So when I do my impression of her,

[58:57] I'll just do my voice.

Stuart Wellington

[59:00] So they're securing the home.

[59:03] And uh-oh,

[59:04] the nursery window has been left open.

[59:06] I don't know if there's,

[59:07] that's some kind of a,

[59:08] if that's symbolism,

Dan McCoy

[59:10] Dan?

[59:10] Uh,

[59:11] probably just means that,

[59:12] you know,

[59:12] someone could get in through the nursery window if they wanted to.

[59:15] Okay.

Elliott Kalan

[59:16] Uh,

[59:17] okay.

Natalie Walker

[59:17] But that when you invite a baby into your life,

[59:20] it opens you up.

Elliott Kalan

[59:22] Exactly.

[59:22] When you,

[59:22] when you have a child,

[59:23] it makes you vulnerable.

[59:25] Yeah.

[59:25] Wow.

[59:26] Thanks,

[59:27] Elliot.

[59:27] Yeah.

[59:27] No,

[59:28] you and I are exactly on the same page.

[59:29] That's why I can do such an amazing impression.

[59:31] At all times.

Stuart Wellington

[59:33] So,

[59:33] their efforts are in vain.

[59:35] The Manson family gets in.

[59:37] They,

[59:38] like,

[59:38] you know,

[59:39] wrangle them into the living room.

[59:41] Uh,

[59:41] there are moments where we see flashbacks to her previous dream,

[59:46] but there's some slight differences in this whole situation,

[59:49] including Abigail has hidden among the rafters.

[59:52] Uh,

[59:53] this was a new part of the home that I didn't know about.

[59:55] Yeah.

[59:57] Oh,

Elliott Kalan

[59:58] just the exposed rafter beams above the living room.

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:01] Yeah.

[1:00:01] She,

[1:00:02] and Sharon,

[1:00:03] you know,

[1:00:03] having,

[1:00:03] having kind of experienced this whole thing through her dream,

[1:00:06] decides to write her own script,

[1:00:09] if you will.

[1:00:10] And she interrupts the,

[1:00:12] the killer,

[1:00:13] I guess his name is Tex,

[1:00:15] from,

[1:00:15] uh,

[1:00:16] interrupts him from killing Jay.

[1:00:17] She offers to sacrifice herself.

[1:00:19] And then she whips out a knife that she has set aside and stabs Tex in the stomach.

[1:00:25] They kind of scramble.

[1:00:27] There's some jumping and running.

[1:00:28] They may actually get free.

[1:00:29] Um,

Natalie Walker

[1:00:30] she also does like a line to him.

[1:00:32] That's like,

[1:00:32] you're not the fucking devil.

[1:00:34] Yeah.

[1:00:35] Before she does it.

[1:00:36] I'm like,

[1:00:36] you wanted this to be like a Joss Whedon,

[1:00:38] like girl power.

[1:00:40] Yeah.

[1:00:40] because Tex keeps saying,

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:41] I'm the devil.

[1:00:42] I'm here to do the devil's business.

[1:00:44] Yes.

Natalie Walker

[1:00:44] Which is what he said.

[1:00:46] Yeah.

[1:00:46] But I don't think that Sharon Tate said,

[1:00:49] you're not the fucking devil.

[1:00:50] Well,

[1:00:50] no,

Dan McCoy

[1:00:51] because this movie at this point,

[1:00:52] this movie at this point,

[1:00:54] pulls an inglorious bastards and rewrites history to make,

[1:00:56] uh,

[1:00:57] make them to kill the bad guys.

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:59] They become like such bad-ass fighters.

[1:01:02] Yeah.

[1:01:02] And they're really like taking the fight to the Manson family.

[1:01:05] And to the point where I,

[1:01:06] there's a,

[1:01:07] they start killing them off.

[1:01:08] And there's a part where Wodge drowns a woman in a bathtub.

[1:01:11] And I was like,

[1:01:12] you had her defeated.

[1:01:14] Like now I feel bad for the home invaders.

[1:01:17] Like you're taking lethal force when you don't really need to right now,

[1:01:21] but they just become so amazingly good at defending themselves.

Stuart Wellington

[1:01:24] Not a fan of that scene.

[1:01:25] If I want to watch a much larger man beat up a woman in a bathroom,

[1:01:29] I'm going to watch Terminator three rise of the machine.

[1:01:34] Uh,

[1:01:35] because at least they're both Terminators,

[1:01:37] you know,

[1:01:37] then it's even,

[1:01:38] even footing.

Elliott Kalan

[1:01:39] It's an even fight.

[1:01:39] Yeah,

[1:01:40] sure.

Natalie Walker

[1:01:40] Does Harrison Ford drown Michelle Pfeiffer in the bathtub?

[1:01:43] And what lies beneath?

[1:01:44] Spoiler.

Dan McCoy

[1:01:44] Lies beneath?

[1:01:46] I don't.

[1:01:46] Sort of does.

[1:01:47] She doesn't die.

[1:01:48] Oh man.

[1:01:49] Spoiler.

Elliott Kalan

[1:01:50] Yeah.

[1:01:50] Let's not spoil what lies beneath the movie that was spoiled by the trailer for the movie.

[1:01:54] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:01:55] Uh,

[1:01:55] so I saw that movie when I was living in Germany where it's known as Schatten der Wahrheit.

[1:02:00] Oh.

[1:02:00] And it was really fun to watch in German,

[1:02:03] you know,

[1:02:04] because I can only understand about half of the words they said.

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:07] You were like,

[1:02:07] I'm watching it,

[1:02:08] you're like Harrison Ford speaking German.

[1:02:09] It's like some alternate universe where Indiana Jones was a Nazi.

Stuart Wellington

[1:02:12] Uh-huh.

[1:02:13] Yep.

[1:02:13] That's exactly how I felt.

[1:02:15] Um,

[1:02:15] they would call him Bavaria Jones.

[1:02:18] Mm-hmm.

[1:02:19] They manage to get free.

[1:02:21] They get to,

[1:02:22] uh,

[1:02:23] Steven's trailer where he tries to get his ham radio working and they're calling for help.

[1:02:28] Tex is chasing after them.

[1:02:30] Uh,

[1:02:31] Wojcik kills the woman in the bathroom.

[1:02:34] Tex is trying to track them.

[1:02:35] And then they turn the tables on him,

[1:02:37] surprise him,

[1:02:38] and murder him.

[1:02:39] Or not,

[1:02:40] I guess,

[1:02:40] kill him.

[1:02:41] They,

[1:02:42] uh,

[1:02:42] I think,

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:42] I think a court would rule it self-defense probably.

Stuart Wellington

[1:02:45] They leave.

[1:02:46] They're like,

[1:02:47] there's this sequence of them like,

[1:02:50] you know,

[1:02:50] our,

[1:02:50] our five buddies,

[1:02:51] as they're called,

[1:02:52] uh,

[1:02:53] walking,

[1:02:53] walking up the driveway.

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:55] They'll be forever known as history and history is the five buddies.

[1:02:58] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:02:58] Slow motion,

[1:02:59] you know,

[1:02:59] this is this like,

[1:03:00] they've,

[1:03:01] uh,

[1:03:01] they've managed to get through hell,

[1:03:03] you know,

[1:03:03] uh,

[1:03:04] that kind of a sequence when they get to the entrance to the,

[1:03:07] uh,

[1:03:08] the entrance to the home and,

[1:03:10] uh,

[1:03:11] Sharon turns around and now we're back at the,

[1:03:15] the opening of the movie.

[1:03:16] The home is a crime scene,

[1:03:18] but the bodies and the bodies that are lying out are the bodies of her friends.

[1:03:22] She pulls the,

[1:03:24] uh,

[1:03:24] the cover off of one of the bodies and it has her own face.

Natalie Walker

[1:03:27] I also love that the body under the sheet is so obviously her,

[1:03:33] like you can see her huge bump underneath and she still has to go over to it and pull it down.

[1:03:39] And it's like a jump scare for her.

Stuart Wellington

[1:03:42] Maybe somebody's holding a beach ball.

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:46] Is this Homer Simpson's body?

[1:03:48] I have to check.

Stuart Wellington

[1:03:49] Uh,

[1:03:50] so she sees her own body and then,

[1:03:54] and then she walks out to where her friends are like happily waiting for her.

[1:03:59] There's a lot of like slow motion shots of the police trying to keep paparazzos at bay.

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:04] It is hilariously low budget.

[1:04:06] There's like four guys in suits with old timey cameras and they are barely trying to get around the one extra playing a police officer who is barely trying to stop them.

[1:04:15] It's so low energy and like tiny.

[1:04:17] I thought it was,

[1:04:18] I thought that moment was really funny.

[1:04:20] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:04:20] So she,

[1:04:21] and she walks out where her friends are all hanging out.

[1:04:23] It has the like emotional intensity of one of those like Tumblr posts where somebody,

[1:04:28] anytime a celebrity dies and they write some kind of like fan fiction about that celebrity getting to heaven with a bunch of other dead celebrities.

[1:04:35] Oh yeah.

Natalie Walker

[1:04:36] And like a cartoon.

[1:04:37] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:04:38] Yeah.

[1:04:38] They all welcome Sharon Tate like it's the end of Lost or something.

[1:04:41] Yeah.

[1:04:41] Like all like lined up and smiling.

Stuart Wellington

[1:04:43] But not as emotional as the end of Lost,

[1:04:45] which is soul crushing.

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:47] And,

[1:04:47] uh,

[1:04:48] how does it compare to the,

[1:04:49] what you imagine the eventual series finale of Younger will be like?

Stuart Wellington

[1:04:53] Oh man.

[1:04:54] Well,

[1:04:55] at,

[1:04:55] at that point,

[1:04:56] uh,

[1:04:56] they have just managed to close the portal to the neither realm.

[1:05:00] Quan Chi has been defeated.

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:03] So Younger takes a real turn.

[1:05:05] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:05:05] It,

[1:05:06] uh,

[1:05:06] it melds with the MK universe and,

[1:05:08] uh,

[1:05:10] we shouldn't have published that book by,

[1:05:12] uh,

[1:05:12] Shao Kahn.

[1:05:13] So does Goro work at the publishing house?

[1:05:15] No,

[1:05:15] Goro died,

[1:05:16] Elliot.

[1:05:16] I have no idea what's happening.

[1:05:17] No.

[1:05:19] And then,

[1:05:20] uh,

[1:05:20] shifting alignments.

[1:05:21] Now Natalie and I are in sync.

[1:05:23] Okay.

[1:05:23] We'll,

[1:05:23] we'll talk about this.

[1:05:24] We'll,

[1:05:24] we'll,

[1:05:25] we'll,

[1:05:25] we'll finish this later on the younger cast.

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:26] Now I just,

[1:05:27] I imagine Scorpion at a book release party and he sees someone he knows across the room and he goes,

[1:05:32] get over here.

[1:05:33] And then gives him a hearty hug.

Stuart Wellington

[1:05:35] Yep.

[1:05:35] That's,

[1:05:36] that's great.

[1:05:36] Um,

[1:05:37] he,

[1:05:38] he leaves the,

[1:05:38] uh,

[1:05:39] the chain dagger at home though.

[1:05:40] He does not take that with him.

[1:05:42] No,

[1:05:42] that'd be a weird thing to bring to a book release party.

[1:05:44] So,

[1:05:45] uh,

[1:05:45] we then,

Dan McCoy

[1:05:46] Stuart has just put his hand on my shoulder.

[1:05:48] He's like,

[1:05:48] he's proud of me for finally knowing what you're talking about.

[1:05:51] So then we,

Stuart Wellington

[1:05:52] then we cut to that interview that,

[1:05:54] we had previously seen.

[1:05:56] And Sharon says something like,

[1:05:58] I guess I live in a fairytale world or something.

[1:06:00] And then,

[1:06:01] uh,

[1:06:02] and probably always will.

[1:06:03] And then end of movie.

Dan McCoy

[1:06:05] So at the end,

[1:06:06] are they ghosts or are they split into an alternate dimension where?

[1:06:10] I gotta assume they're ghosts.

Elliott Kalan

[1:06:12] I think the movie says haunting of Sharon tape.

[1:06:15] Yeah.

[1:06:15] Okay.

[1:06:16] And this is what I found most egregious about it was that the movie seemed to be saying to me,

[1:06:21] oh,

[1:06:22] it was possible for them to defend themselves and not be killed,

[1:06:25] but they failed at it,

[1:06:27] you know,

[1:06:27] or like,

[1:06:28] well,

[1:06:28] if they had had their druthers,

[1:06:29] she would have planned ahead for this kind of thing.

[1:06:31] And I found that really disgusting.

[1:06:33] The idea that like,

[1:06:34] by implication,

[1:06:35] they're like,

[1:06:36] oh yeah,

[1:06:36] well,

[1:06:36] there was a,

[1:06:37] there was a,

[1:06:37] there's an alternate universe where they turn the tables and lived.

[1:06:41] And,

[1:06:41] uh,

[1:06:41] but I guess the ones in our reality couldn't pull it off.

Natalie Walker

[1:06:44] Like they didn't take the story into their own hands enough.

Elliott Kalan

[1:06:47] Yes.

[1:06:48] They,

[1:06:49] and it's,

[1:06:49] and it's a real,

[1:06:50] it's one of those things.

[1:06:51] I don't think the filmmakers mean it this way,

[1:06:52] but it dovetails really well into that,

[1:06:55] into the viewpoint that says,

[1:06:56] well,

[1:06:56] if you don't have a gun in your house,

[1:06:57] you're just asking for someone to break in and kill you because you're not ready.

[1:07:01] You're not living at code red.

[1:07:03] You're living at code white,

[1:07:04] you know,

[1:07:05] and that kind of stuff,

[1:07:05] which I find disgusting.

[1:07:07] Not to get political guys.

[1:07:08] Look,

[1:07:09] I know this is all about funzos,

Stuart Wellington

[1:07:10] but there's also,

[1:07:11] there's also an element of like,

[1:07:14] when she walks up to see her friends,

[1:07:17] they're happy.

[1:07:18] And that like,

[1:07:19] that also plays into the idea of like,

[1:07:22] oh,

[1:07:22] they're in a better place.

[1:07:23] And you're like,

[1:07:24] well,

[1:07:24] I think you're minimizing the fucking bullshit that like happened.

[1:07:28] Like you're minimizing the horrors that were perpetrated on them.

[1:07:31] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:07:32] All right.

[1:07:33] Final judgments.

[1:07:33] Was this a good,

[1:07:34] bad movie,

[1:07:34] bad,

[1:07:35] bad movie or movie kind of like,

[1:07:36] I'm going to say,

[1:07:37] I am perfectly happy watching the most horrific violence.

[1:07:42] If it's a make,

[1:07:43] make them up.

[1:07:44] But,

[1:07:45] uh,

[1:07:45] as soon as it becomes a real life thing,

[1:07:47] I get tremendously soft hearted.

[1:07:50] And so watching this was possibly my least favorite movie we've ever watched.

[1:07:55] So bad,

[1:07:56] bad.

[1:07:56] Wow.

[1:07:57] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:07:58] Milestone.

[1:07:59] Uh,

[1:07:59] yeah,

[1:07:59] this is a bad,

[1:08:00] bad movie.

[1:08:00] It's offensive.

[1:08:02] Uh,

[1:08:02] and it is disrespectful.

[1:08:04] Uh,

[1:08:05] but at least it's also incredibly poorly made.

[1:08:10] Real Oscar wild.

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:11] I learned during this recording that Hillary Duff shot all her scenes in two days.

[1:08:15] And I'm like,

[1:08:15] ah,

[1:08:16] that makes perfect sense.

[1:08:17] This feels like a movie that was shot in a couple of days around a house.

[1:08:20] Yeah.

[1:08:20] But,

[1:08:21] uh,

[1:08:21] I'm with you guys.

[1:08:22] Bad,

[1:08:22] bad.

[1:08:22] Okay.

[1:08:23] Natalie,

[1:08:23] we've teed you up to be the big change vote.

[1:08:26] You're the one who's going to turn us around.

Natalie Walker

[1:08:28] I'm not going to do it.

[1:08:30] This is a terrible movie.

[1:08:31] I did not enjoy watching it.

[1:08:33] It was tough.

[1:08:34] It was tough.

[1:08:35] My favorite serenity had already been taken.

[1:08:37] Sure.

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:39] Oh,

[1:08:39] it thus begins the Walker Jaffe feud.

[1:08:41] I know.

Natalie Walker

[1:08:42] No.

[1:08:43] Well,

[1:08:43] I told Jenny,

[1:08:44] I was like,

[1:08:44] if it had to be someone other than me,

[1:08:46] then I'm glad it was you.

[1:08:47] Cause realistically I love her.

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:49] But,

[1:08:49] um,

[1:08:50] yeah,

Natalie Walker

[1:08:50] this movie is such a relentless bummer to watch.

[1:08:54] Yeah.

[1:08:54] There's just nothing about it.

[1:08:56] That is fun,

[1:08:59] bad at all.

[1:09:00] And I,

[1:09:00] I feel like I'm having bad luck with,

[1:09:02] I want movies to be fun,

[1:09:04] bad,

[1:09:04] and I'm having bad luck recently.

[1:09:05] I also saw Ma and Ma was similar.

[1:09:08] Welcome to Marwen was also not fun,

[1:09:10] bad for me.

[1:09:11] Oh,

Elliott Kalan

[1:09:11] so you're saying we should not do welcome to Marwen for this podcast?

Natalie Walker

[1:09:14] I'm saying you can do welcome to Marwen.

[1:09:16] I'm,

Stuart Wellington

[1:09:17] she washes her hands.

[1:09:18] I wash my hands a bit.

[1:09:19] Yeah.

[1:09:20] Now your,

[1:09:21] your friend who watched it,

[1:09:22] uh,

[1:09:23] had your friend accurately,

[1:09:25] like,

[1:09:26] like,

Stuart Wellington

[1:09:26] set you up for expectation wise for this movie?

Natalie Walker

[1:09:29] I think so.

[1:09:31] She was just like,

[1:09:32] this is the worst movie I've ever seen.

[1:09:34] I feel like she just needed someone else to experience the insidious evil of it.

[1:09:39] Yeah.

[1:09:39] Um,

[1:09:40] it's like a ring video.

[1:09:41] Yeah,

[1:09:41] exactly.

[1:09:42] That she's like,

[1:09:42] I need to know.

[1:09:43] Cause she also knows that I will watch most bad movies.

[1:09:47] Uh,

[1:09:47] um,

[1:09:48] but yeah.

[1:09:49] Oh,

Stuart Wellington

[1:09:50] Dan,

[1:09:51] uh,

[1:09:52] what you going through Tinder over there?

Dan McCoy

[1:09:53] Uh,

[1:09:54] I,

[1:09:55] I am taking thanks to,

[1:09:57] but,

[1:09:57] um,

[1:09:57] I am looking at our ads.

Elliott Kalan

[1:09:59] Looking at our ads.

[1:10:00] Dan,

[1:10:01] should I,

[1:10:01] should we go straight to that?

[1:10:02] Or should I do my kind of half-assed Jesus Christ superstar parody that I was going to do when,

[1:10:07] when,

[1:10:08] uh,

[1:10:08] Natalie said,

[1:10:08] I washed my hands of welcome to Marwen.

[1:10:10] Yes,

[1:10:10] please do Jesus Christ superstar.

[1:10:12] I was going to do,

[1:10:13] I was going to do a line from the trial before pilot where he goes,

[1:10:16] I was going to say,

[1:10:17] I wash my hands of welcome to Marwen.

[1:10:23] Yes.

[1:10:23] Die if you want to,

[1:10:25] et cetera,

[1:10:25] et cetera.

[1:10:27] Okay.

Natalie Walker

[1:10:27] You innocent.

[1:10:30] Puppet.

[1:10:31] Ba,

[1:10:32] ba,

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:33] ba,

[1:10:34] ba,

[1:10:34] ba.

[1:10:34] And so,

[1:10:35] but the original line is I wash my hands of your demolition.

[1:10:37] Yes.

Natalie Walker

[1:10:38] It's the best.

[1:10:39] It's the best part.

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:41] Oh,

[1:10:42] it's a great,

[1:10:42] that whole sequence is great.

[1:10:44] Great album,

[1:10:45] great show.

[1:10:46] I give Jesus Christ superstar.

[1:10:47] A good,

[1:10:48] good review.

S5

[1:10:55] Welcome back to fireside chat on KMAX.

[1:10:58] With me in studio to take your calls is the dopest duo on the West coast,

[1:11:03] Oliver Wong and Morgan Rhodes.

[1:11:05] Go ahead,

[1:11:06] caller.

Dan McCoy

[1:11:06] Hey,

[1:11:07] uh,

S5

[1:11:07] I'm looking for a music podcast that's insightful and thoughtful,

[1:11:10] but like also helps me discover artists and albums that I've never heard of.

Elliott Kalan

[1:11:14] Yeah,

[1:11:14] man.

S5

[1:11:15] Sounds like you need to listen to heat rocks every week.

[1:11:17] Myself and I'm Morgan Rhodes and my cohost here,

[1:11:20] Oliver Wong,

[1:11:20] talk to influential guests about a canonical album that has changed their lives.

Dan McCoy

[1:11:25] Guests like Moby,

[1:11:27] open mic Eagle,

[1:11:28] talk about albums by Prince,

S5

[1:11:30] Joni Mitchell,

[1:11:30] and so much more.

Stuart Wellington

[1:11:32] Yo,

[1:11:32] what's that show called again?

S5

[1:11:34] Heat rocks,

[1:11:35] deep dives into hot records.

[1:11:37] Every Thursday on maximum fun.

[1:11:42] There's nothing quite like sailing in the calm international waters on my ship,

[1:11:47] the SS biopic.

Natalie Walker

[1:11:49] Avast.

[1:11:50] It's actually pronounced biopic.

S5

[1:11:54] No,

[1:11:54] you dingus.

[1:11:55] It's biopic.

[1:11:57] Who the hell says that?

Natalie Walker

[1:11:58] It's biopic.

S5

[1:12:00] It's the words,

[1:12:01] the biography,

[1:12:02] and picture.

[1:12:03] If you,

[1:12:03] all right,

[1:12:04] that is enough.

[1:12:05] Ahoy.

[1:12:06] I'm Dave Holmes.

[1:12:07] I'm the host of the newly rebooted podcast,

[1:12:09] formerly known as international waters designed to resolve petty,

[1:12:13] but persistent arguments like this.

[1:12:15] How?

[1:12:15] By pitting two teams of opinionated comedians against each other with trivia and improv games.

[1:12:21] Of course,

[1:12:22] winner takes home the right to be right.

[1:12:24] What podcast be this?

[1:12:26] It's called troubled waters where we disagree to disagree.

Dan McCoy

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Elliott Kalan

[1:13:17] Now,

[1:13:18] Dan,

[1:13:18] I had a website that I was wondering if Squarespace could help me with.

[1:13:21] Probably.

[1:13:22] Okay.

[1:13:22] Now,

[1:13:22] and you're,

Stuart Wellington

[1:13:23] and Natalie's kind of a tech head,

[1:13:24] right?

[1:13:25] You're kind of a,

[1:13:25] like a computer freak.

Elliott Kalan

[1:13:27] Yeah.

[1:13:28] You're really into gadgets.

[1:13:29] Just like,

[1:13:30] just like,

[1:13:31] what's his name?

[1:13:32] Steven parent.

[1:13:33] Yeah.

[1:13:33] Now,

[1:13:34] as mentioned earlier,

[1:13:35] I get very paranoid at night in my new house that I own about the locks being locked.

[1:13:40] And so I was wondering if there,

[1:13:41] and whenever I go to check them,

[1:13:43] the locks are already,

[1:13:44] they're locked.

[1:13:45] It's almost never unlocked.

[1:13:46] So I was wondering about a website.

[1:13:48] It's called www.unlockmylockssoicandcheckthem.com.

[1:13:53] And the website,

[1:13:54] I guess would be an app,

[1:13:55] would unlock the locks in my house so that when I go check them,

[1:13:58] I go,

[1:13:58] oh,

[1:13:58] thank goodness I checked this.

[1:13:59] It was,

[1:14:00] it was unlocked.

[1:14:00] I needed to lock it.

[1:14:01] As opposed to right now where I check it,

[1:14:03] it's locked already.

[1:14:03] And I go,

[1:14:04] well,

[1:14:04] that was a waste of my time.

[1:14:06] Wait,

[1:14:06] but what if the lock automatically unlocked in the time since I walked from the door to my bed?

[1:14:10] I better check it again.

[1:14:12] Better to have the app that unlocks it so I could be like,

[1:14:14] oh good,

[1:14:14] this wasn't a waste of my time.

Natalie Walker

[1:14:16] So you're not pitching a website,

Dan McCoy

[1:14:17] but an app.

[1:14:18] I guess it's an app.

[1:14:19] I mean,

[1:14:20] you can use a Squarespace website to sell it.

Elliott Kalan

[1:14:23] This is why we needed a tech,

[1:14:24] we needed a tech head like Natalie to point out the difference to me.

Stuart Wellington

[1:14:28] Now,

[1:14:30] wouldn't you also need to develop the technology to unlock it?

[1:14:33] Or do you just need a website that says,

[1:14:36] where you're like,

[1:14:37] uh,

[1:14:37] dear website,

[1:14:39] did I lock my doors?

[1:14:41] And it just says,

[1:14:41] yes.

[1:14:42] Yeah,

[1:14:43] it's just the,

[1:14:43] is it Christmas?

Elliott Kalan

[1:14:45] Yeah.

[1:14:45] Or that website that tells you if Abe Vigoda is alive or not.

[1:14:48] Well,

[1:14:48] yeah,

[1:14:48] no,

[1:14:49] that was,

Dan McCoy

[1:14:49] that was exactly what I was going to say.

[1:14:51] I thought you were going to,

[1:14:51] that was the original pitch I thought you were going to do is like,

[1:14:54] are my locks locked or not?

[1:14:55] And it's the Abe Vigoda thing.

Elliott Kalan

[1:14:57] Well,

[1:14:57] no,

[1:14:57] cause I know the locks are locked cause I've already checked them four times that

[1:15:00] night.

[1:15:01] What I need is something that makes it worthwhile when I go back to check for the

[1:15:03] fifth time.

[1:15:04] So Natalie,

[1:15:04] if we could work together and you could develop this kind of website unlocks a lock remotely

[1:15:09] technology.

Natalie Walker

[1:15:11] Yeah.

[1:15:11] I'm an engineer.

[1:15:13] Oh,

[1:15:13] great.

[1:15:13] Women in STEM.

Dan McCoy

[1:15:18] All right.

[1:15:19] So the next ad I just closed for some reason.

Elliott Kalan

[1:15:24] I feel like that is,

[1:15:25] that is like,

[1:15:26] if I saw that in a movie about Dan McCoy,

[1:15:28] I'd be like two on the nose,

[1:15:29] this metaphor about Dan's life.

[1:15:32] Uh,

[1:15:33] the fluff house is also sponsored.

[1:15:34] Dan,

[1:15:34] you did,

[1:15:35] you did a solo ad read during a,

[1:15:36] during a previous episode and you were like,

[1:15:38] uh,

[1:15:39] hold on.

[1:15:39] I haven't gotten the stuff ready yet.

[1:15:41] I'll do it right now.

[1:15:41] And I'm like,

[1:15:42] Dan,

[1:15:42] you're recording this at home by yourself.

[1:15:44] Why didn't you just get it ready first?

Dan McCoy

[1:15:47] No,

[1:15:48] the,

[1:15:48] when I,

[1:15:50] it doesn't matter.

[1:15:51] Something was cut off in the,

[1:15:52] in the email.

[1:15:53] So I had to vamp for a long time.

[1:15:55] Anyway,

[1:15:55] uh,

[1:15:56] the fluff house is also sponsored in part by Z man games.

[1:15:59] Oh,

[1:15:59] great.

[1:16:00] It's about the,

[1:16:02] they're the creators of pandemic rapid response.

Stuart Wellington

[1:16:05] And the other pandemic titles.

Dan McCoy

[1:16:07] Well,

[1:16:07] but this is the new one that they're promoting.

[1:16:09] Cool.

[1:16:10] Disaster has struck and cities around the world are in desperate need of food,

[1:16:14] water,

[1:16:14] vaccines,

[1:16:15] and other supplies with a specially equipped cargo plane.

[1:16:18] You and your team are uniquely capable of providing life saving aid anytime,

[1:16:23] anywhere.

[1:16:25] Pandemic rapid response is a race against time.

[1:16:27] Roll dice to create supplies,

[1:16:29] fly the plane,

[1:16:30] and make deliveries to cities in need.

[1:16:33] As the timer counts down,

[1:16:34] you must quickly coordinate and work together to react to new disasters.

[1:16:38] Can you save humanity in time?

[1:16:41] It's a new standalone board game set in the beloved pandemic universe with frantic real-time gameplay and a quick 20 minute playtime.

[1:16:48] Find more about pandemic rapid response at Z man games.com and grab your copy of the game from a target near you.

[1:16:56] I have to say that reading copy,

[1:16:58] I feel a lot sillier when Natalie's here.

[1:17:01] Wow.

Elliott Kalan

[1:17:02] Is it because she keeps making faces at you?

[1:17:04] I don't need to.

Natalie Walker

[1:17:06] I have a very expressive face.

[1:17:07] She's very intently watching me.

[1:17:09] No,

[1:17:10] I go out for voiceover a lot for copy and stuff.

[1:17:14] And so I'm just like,

[1:17:14] I was actually just thinking you have a lot of natural ability when you are reading copy for something that you seem to actually like.

Stuart Wellington

[1:17:22] Oh,

[1:17:22] thank you.

[1:17:22] Well,

[1:17:23] the look on your face when you just sound so excited to be reading a copy for a board game,

[1:17:28] something that you notoriously despise.

Natalie Walker

[1:17:31] But you were really painting a picture for me.

[1:17:33] Yeah.

[1:17:33] With the pandemic.

Stuart Wellington

[1:17:34] Good copy,

[1:17:35] I gotta say.

[1:17:36] Yeah,

[1:17:36] it's good copy.

[1:17:38] Pandemic games are a lot of fun.

[1:17:39] Yeah.

[1:17:40] This is just the latest installment.

[1:17:41] I mean,

[1:17:42] beloved universe.

[1:17:43] Who is Z man?

Elliott Kalan

[1:17:43] Is Z man a man?

Stuart Wellington

[1:17:44] I think it originally,

[1:17:45] it originally was.

[1:17:47] The Z man games like.

[1:17:48] And then he became a being of pure board game.

[1:17:52] Made up of naught but meeples and cards.

[1:17:55] But he,

[1:17:57] or he,

[1:17:57] the pandemic.

[1:17:58] I think it's funny that they do say beloved universe because like the pandemic games are about humanity,

[1:18:04] like trying not to die off from infections.

[1:18:07] But they are really good games.

[1:18:08] They're,

[1:18:08] they're,

[1:18:09] they're great games.

[1:18:10] And there's some of my favorite because they're cooperative games.

[1:18:13] Yes.

[1:18:13] So they're,

[1:18:13] and they're pretty easy for new players to pick up.

[1:18:17] So they're a great way to kind of introduce friends.

[1:18:21] Who might not be like hardcore board gamers into like a night of board gaming fun.

[1:18:26] Now,

[1:18:27] as you may know,

Elliott Kalan

[1:18:28] uh,

[1:18:28] sorry,

[1:18:29] Stuart,

[1:18:29] I'll,

[1:18:29] uh,

[1:18:30] I don't mean to cut you off.

[1:18:31] I was going to tell you a personal anecdote.

[1:18:33] Uh huh.

[1:18:33] Do it.

[1:18:34] Okay.

[1:18:34] Now,

[1:18:34] as you may know,

[1:18:35] my son,

[1:18:35] Sammy is a steward in training.

[1:18:36] He loves games.

[1:18:37] He loves board games.

[1:18:39] And I was worried at first that this game would be like a little too complicated or scary for him,

[1:18:44] but it was not.

[1:18:44] It was totally into it.

[1:18:45] And we still haven't fully gotten the hang of solving the pandemic.

[1:18:49] A grown man working with a five year old to figure out how to save,

[1:18:52] save the world.

[1:18:53] But,

[1:18:53] uh,

[1:18:54] we've been having a lot of fun with it.

[1:18:55] And I also,

[1:18:55] I love that it's a,

[1:18:57] that these are cooperative games.

[1:18:58] And so there's like,

[1:18:59] there's not that element of beating your friends basically.

[1:19:03] And it's like,

[1:19:04] oh,

[1:19:04] we're working together and we either all lose together,

[1:19:06] which is sad,

[1:19:07] but at least we did it together.

[1:19:08] Or we all won together.

[1:19:09] In which case we did it.

[1:19:10] We won.

[1:19:10] This is great.

Natalie Walker

[1:19:11] It's like an escape room,

[1:19:13] but a board game.

Stuart Wellington

[1:19:14] You can actually buy board game versions of escape rooms.

[1:19:17] Oh,

[1:19:18] wow.

[1:19:19] Uh,

[1:19:19] so after the podcast,

[1:19:20] we'll crack this one out.

Natalie Walker

[1:19:22] Sounds good.

Elliott Kalan

[1:19:23] But,

[1:19:23] but let's have people buy the board game that we're advertising and not that.

[1:19:27] Uh,

Natalie Walker

[1:19:28] I'm so glad Sammy made an appearance on the podcast today.

Elliott Kalan

[1:19:30] Yeah.

[1:19:30] We got a little,

[1:19:31] he's one of my favorite characters.

[1:19:33] Oh yeah.

[1:19:33] Well,

[1:19:33] they,

[1:19:34] Z man game sent me a copy of the game and they,

[1:19:36] and I was like,

[1:19:37] oh,

[1:19:37] I can't wait to play this with Sammy.

[1:19:38] And my wife was like,

[1:19:39] uh,

[1:19:40] it is about a pandemic.

[1:19:42] So like,

[1:19:42] do you think it's appropriate?

[1:19:43] And I'm like,

[1:19:44] eh,

[1:19:44] he'll figure it out.

Dan McCoy

[1:19:46] So,

[1:19:46] sorry,

[1:19:46] I don't want to cut off any more Sammy talk,

[1:19:48] but I believe we have a couple of jumbotrons.

[1:19:50] I'll give you a little time maybe to pull them up on your old email devices.

[1:19:54] I'm already.

[1:19:55] Mine is ready.

[1:19:56] Dan,

Elliott Kalan

[1:19:56] before every episode,

[1:19:57] I make a word document with an outline of what I need to do in that episode so that I'm ready to do it.

[1:20:03] Okay.

[1:20:04] Nerd.

[1:20:04] That sounds very clean.

[1:20:06] It's called,

[1:20:07] it's called,

[1:20:07] it's called treating this professionally.

Dan McCoy

[1:20:12] I like to think I bring a wild card energy to the show.

[1:20:15] Oh,

[1:20:15] very much so.

[1:20:16] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:20:19] Okay.

[1:20:20] We are now in the jumbotron portion of the show.

[1:20:25] Uh,

[1:20:25] this message is from Jetta,

[1:20:27] Yuki,

[1:20:28] Jules,

[1:20:29] Teddy,

[1:20:29] and Ha,

[1:20:30] Hana.

[1:20:31] Hana.

[1:20:32] Yeah.

[1:20:32] Okay.

[1:20:33] We are ordinary run of the mill house cats and are in awe of your fame and celebrity.

[1:20:40] Archie,

[1:20:41] we prick up our ears at your restless background noise.

[1:20:45] And house cat,

[1:20:46] your super coolness would thrill us even more if we had not had our vital sexual equipment altered.

[1:20:53] Keep up the cattiness.

[1:20:55] What a lovely little message for the cats of the flop house.

[1:20:58] Mm-hmm.

[1:20:59] Uh,

[1:20:59] well,

[1:20:59] thank you for your message.

[1:21:00] I will relate to the house cat who,

[1:21:02] as I've mentioned before,

[1:21:03] is currently on sabbatical.

[1:21:06] He's working on a new book,

[1:21:08] right?

[1:21:08] Oh yeah,

[1:21:09] of course.

[1:21:09] Uh,

[1:21:09] and Archie is currently over there licking his tummy in a way that I attempt to all the time.

[1:21:14] And I just can't bend that way.

[1:21:18] Uh,

[1:21:18] Elliot,

[1:21:19] do you have something?

Elliott Kalan

[1:21:20] I do have a jumbotron message.

[1:21:21] Hey guys,

[1:21:22] if you enjoy both history and the off topic nonsense of the floppers,

[1:21:26] check out the revisionists hosted by Brian Flynn and Zach Powers.

[1:21:29] Each episode,

[1:21:30] they welcome a comic to discuss a historical topic.

[1:21:32] One person tells the true story,

[1:21:34] another comes up with an alternate history,

[1:21:36] and the winner gets to become the truth.

[1:21:38] Join us every other Saturday and find out just how often real history is more fascinating than what three comics can make up.

[1:21:44] Look for The Revisionists on your podcast app or at revisionistpodcast.com.

[1:21:49] That's revisionistpodcast.com.

[1:21:52] I should make it clear that the URL is plural.

[1:21:54] Do you need to revise your previous statement?

[1:21:56] I revise,

[1:21:57] you know what,

[1:21:57] strike my previous website from the record and make it instead revisionistpodcast.com.

Dan McCoy

[1:22:04] And before we plug our,

[1:22:05] uh,

[1:22:06] remaining live shows for the year,

[1:22:08] or,

[1:22:08] I mean,

[1:22:08] maybe not for the year,

[1:22:09] who knows,

[1:22:10] but our remaining live shows in our current tour.

[1:22:12] I like how you say remaining.

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:13] It's most of them.

Dan McCoy

[1:22:15] Well,

[1:22:15] okay.

[1:22:16] Uh,

[1:22:16] before we plug those.

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:18] You made it sound like we're barely,

[1:22:19] like we're almost done with this tour.

[1:22:20] No,

[1:22:21] we have most of the shows in the tour left.

[1:22:23] So when I was not a tour,

[1:22:24] technically.

Dan McCoy

[1:22:25] Yeah.

[1:22:26] Okay.

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:26] This t-shirt contest.

[1:22:27] You know what?

[1:22:28] Tour is also a publisher,

[1:22:29] much like on Younger.

[1:22:31] Oh,

[1:22:31] thank you.

Stuart Wellington

[1:22:32] It would be a rival.

[1:22:33] Although it's interesting that,

[1:22:34] uh,

[1:22:35] in,

[1:22:35] in the world of Younger,

[1:22:36] Imperial has the author,

[1:22:38] a,

[1:22:38] uh,

[1:22:39] George R.

[1:22:39] Martin surrogate.

[1:22:40] Yes.

[1:22:40] Edward L.

[1:22:41] L.

[1:22:41] Moore,

[1:22:41] uh,

[1:22:42] who is a depiction of a George R.

[1:22:44] Martin type character warts and all,

[1:22:46] but,

[1:22:47] uh,

[1:22:47] clearly,

[1:22:48] you know,

[1:22:48] whatever,

[1:22:49] we'll,

[1:22:49] we'll get into it in Younger cast.

Dan McCoy

[1:22:50] Okay.

[1:22:51] All I wanted to say was the t-shirt contest is ongoing.

[1:22:54] I realized that I previously said that at the end of June would,

[1:22:58] the voting would close,

[1:23:00] but I don't think we actually had a chance because of being out of town doing those other episodes.

[1:23:05] We didn't mention it on the podcast.

[1:23:07] So I'm going to extend the voting to the end of July.

[1:23:10] That's July 30th.

[1:23:11] If you go to flophousepodcast.com and navigate your way over to the blog section,

[1:23:17] there is a place where all of the finalist t-shirt designs are up and you can vote for your favorite.

[1:23:24] And then we will announce the winner.

[1:23:26] Yeah.

[1:23:26] And they're super awesome.

[1:23:27] They're really cool.

[1:23:28] We got a lot of,

[1:23:29] a lot of great stuff.

[1:23:31] Uh,

[1:23:31] Elliot,

[1:23:31] you usually like to do the,

[1:23:33] the plugs for the events.

[1:23:34] Do you want to do that?

Elliott Kalan

[1:23:35] No,

[1:23:35] I just got thrown off that you said the end of July would be July 30th when there are in fact 31 days in July.

[1:23:41] Oh God.

[1:23:42] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[1:23:43] The reason why it took Elliot a while to respond is because he did a Bazooka Joe flip take of that information.

Elliott Kalan

[1:23:49] I was like,

[1:23:50] I was like,

[1:23:50] wait,

[1:23:51] am I in an alternate universe where there are 30 days in July?

[1:23:53] Is this a Mandela effect moment for me?

Dan McCoy

[1:23:55] The weird thing is I pulled up my calendar to see what the end of July was and I did not see the 31st.

[1:24:01] Yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[1:24:01] there was a splotch of mustard on his phone.

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:04] No.

[1:24:04] Fucking 31st.

Dan McCoy

[1:24:05] Sorry,

[1:24:06] it's the 31st,

[1:24:07] everyone.

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:07] Dan has a weird,

[1:24:09] a weird syndrome known as 31 blindness.

[1:24:11] But he actually can't see the number 31 or people who are 31 years old.

[1:24:15] How weird.

[1:24:16] Okay,

[1:24:16] guys,

[1:24:17] let's talk about our upcoming shows.

[1:24:18] Speaking of the number 31,

[1:24:20] turn that number around.

[1:24:21] You get 13.

[1:24:22] July 13th,

[1:24:23] we'll be at,

[1:24:23] in Minneapolis at the Parkway.

[1:24:25] That's right.

[1:24:25] That show,

[1:24:26] though,

[1:24:26] is sold out,

[1:24:28] I believe.

Dan McCoy

[1:24:28] That show is sold out.

[1:24:29] I need to talk to you guys about maybe releasing a couple comps and then,

[1:24:34] so keep an eye out.

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:34] I feel like no time like doing it on the air.

Dan McCoy

[1:24:37] I'm just saying,

[1:24:38] I'm saying that because it's pertinent to the listener.

[1:24:41] There may be like a few tickets.

[1:24:42] Yeah,

[1:24:42] we're going to try and release a few extra shows.

[1:24:45] That are released.

[1:24:46] So,

Dan McCoy

[1:24:47] take a look about that.

[1:24:49] Yeah,

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:49] take a look at the website.

[1:24:50] It is mostly sold out,

[1:24:51] but we may release a couple more tickets.

[1:24:53] That's July 13th.

[1:24:54] Then you skip ahead to September.

[1:24:56] That's right.

[1:24:56] We're taking August off.

[1:24:57] September 28th,

[1:24:58] we're going to be in Beantown.

[1:25:00] Boston itself,

[1:25:01] Cradle of the Revolution.

[1:25:02] Our 7 p.m. show at WBUR City Space is sold out,

[1:25:05] but our 945 show,

[1:25:07] not sold out yet.

[1:25:08] So,

[1:25:09] come on by if you're in Boston or the surrounding New England area.

[1:25:13] And then the following month.

[1:25:14] And we're,

Stuart Wellington

[1:25:15] specifically,

[1:25:15] I'd like to point out,

[1:25:16] we're going to be doing two different movies for that.

[1:25:18] Yes.

[1:25:19] So,

[1:25:19] if you have tickets for the first show and you're like,

[1:25:21] that's not enough silliness,

[1:25:23] I want to watch them talk about a completely different movie.

[1:25:25] I want to be in the theater for four hours.

Elliott Kalan

[1:25:27] If you're like,

[1:25:28] if you're like,

[1:25:29] I don't want to see them talk about Battle Angel Alita again.

[1:25:31] No,

[1:25:31] no,

[1:25:32] no,

[1:25:32] we'll talk about a different movie.

[1:25:33] I don't even know if we're going to do that movie.

Stuart Wellington

[1:25:35] And having recently been part of a live show in that venue,

[1:25:38] if you miss one of the shows,

[1:25:40] but just want to stand outside and watch us from the windows,

[1:25:43] you can easily do that because there are floor to ceiling windows behind the audience.

Elliott Kalan

[1:25:47] Oh,

[1:25:48] that sounds great.

[1:25:49] So,

[1:25:49] we'll get to see all of Boston's bad driving while we,

[1:25:52] while we talk.

[1:25:53] Wow.

[1:25:54] Take that bean town.

[1:25:55] Okay.

[1:25:55] So,

[1:25:56] yeah,

[1:25:56] if you want to see both shows,

[1:25:57] come and see it.

[1:25:58] You could do a real flop house movie marathon.

[1:26:01] And then October 12th,

[1:26:02] we're going to be in my hometown of LA.

[1:26:04] I love LA.

[1:26:06] Randy Newman,

[1:26:06] again,

[1:26:06] mention him again.

[1:26:07] We're going to be in Los Angeles at the Regent Theater.

[1:26:09] That's October 12th.

[1:26:10] So,

[1:26:10] to recap,

[1:26:11] Minneapolis,

[1:26:11] July 13th.

[1:26:12] There may be a few more tickets going on sale.

[1:26:14] Boston,

[1:26:15] September 28th.

[1:26:16] Two different shows.

[1:26:17] First one sold out.

[1:26:17] Second one not.

[1:26:18] Two different movies.

[1:26:19] October 12th,

[1:26:20] Los Angeles at the Regent Theater.

[1:26:23] That's the,

[1:26:23] that's the shows.

[1:26:24] Come on by and see us.

[1:26:26] We did it.

[1:26:26] And as always,

[1:26:27] we'll be doing our show exclusive PowerPoint presentations,

[1:26:30] and also selling live show exclusive merchandise.

[1:26:34] Okay.

Dan McCoy

[1:26:35] Now that that lengthy bit of business is over with.

[1:26:39] That we got to bore our guest with.

[1:26:40] Let's move on to letters.

[1:26:42] I'm coming on tour.

Stuart Wellington

[1:26:43] Oh,

[1:26:44] cool.

[1:26:44] Wow.

[1:26:44] That's new to us.

[1:26:45] That's probably welcome.

Natalie Walker

[1:26:47] Gotta hop in the truck.

Dan McCoy

[1:26:49] Letters from listeners.

[1:26:50] This first one.

[1:26:51] Letters from whom?

[1:26:52] Listeners.

[1:26:52] Okay.

[1:26:53] Listeners like the ones listening right now.

[1:26:56] What a bunch of creeps listening into our conversation.

Elliott Kalan

[1:26:59] What kind of people are listening right now?

[1:27:02] What kind of people are listening to us?

[1:27:05] Dan calls them creeps.

[1:27:06] Dan calls them creeps.

[1:27:07] And Dan's pretty creepy,

[1:27:09] so I think he would know.

[1:27:10] Hey,

[1:27:11] Dan,

[1:27:12] how'd you get so creepy?

[1:27:13] Hey,

[1:27:14] Dan,

[1:27:14] the beard doesn't help.

[1:27:16] Hey,

[1:27:17] Dan,

[1:27:17] you also look sleepy.

[1:27:19] Hey,

[1:27:19] Dan,

[1:27:20] nothing much rhymes with help.

[1:27:23] We have someone,

[1:27:24] I mean,

[1:27:25] I'm so delighted.

Stuart Wellington

[1:27:27] I was worried

[1:27:28] there wasn't going to be a song.

[1:27:29] I can't believe

[1:27:31] that Elliot required

[1:27:33] that much fucking prompting.

Elliott Kalan

[1:27:37] There's a lot of pressure.

[1:27:38] When we have an actual theater person

[1:27:40] on the episode,

[1:27:42] Natalie has a lovely singing voice,

Dan McCoy

[1:27:45] often does cabaret,

[1:27:46] like,

[1:27:47] professionally,

[1:27:47] Someone who we know

Elliott Kalan

[1:27:49] saying at least one part

[1:27:50] of All I Want for Christmas

[1:27:51] is you.

Natalie Walker

[1:27:54] I was so worried

[1:27:55] there wasn't going to be

[1:27:55] a song this time.

[1:27:56] I kept,

[1:27:57] I was like looking over

[1:27:58] and I was like,

[1:27:59] oh God,

[1:28:00] what a delight.

Dan McCoy

[1:28:00] Okay,

[1:28:01] well,

[1:28:01] I just worked so hard

[1:28:02] for that song.

[1:28:04] This first letter

[1:28:05] is from Joshua,

[1:28:06] last name withheld.

[1:28:07] Jackson.

[1:28:08] Who says that?

[1:28:09] Pacey.

[1:28:10] I recently finished

[1:28:12] a crazy movie challenge

[1:28:13] for myself

[1:28:13] in which I watched

[1:28:14] a movie I've never seen before

[1:28:16] for every year

[1:28:17] between 1920

[1:28:18] and 2018.

[1:28:21] 99 movies in total.

Elliott Kalan

[1:28:23] I mean,

[1:28:23] he did it between 1920

[1:28:25] and,

[1:28:26] so like he did

[1:28:26] a movie a year,

[1:28:27] that's not that bad.

[1:28:28] He's old,

[1:28:29] I guess,

[1:28:30] but to stick with it

[1:28:30] for almost 100 years

[1:28:32] is pretty crazy.

Dan McCoy

[1:28:33] Okay.

[1:28:34] Anyway,

[1:28:35] over the course

[1:28:35] of about 10 months,

[1:28:37] I was able to watch

[1:28:38] some stone cold classics

[1:28:40] like The Passion of Joan of Arc

[1:28:41] and The Ademing of a Murder

[1:28:42] and The Thin Man.

[1:28:44] I also managed to watch

[1:28:44] some real stinkers

[1:28:45] like Tideland,

[1:28:46] The Jazz Singer,

[1:28:47] and Once Upon a Time in America.

[1:28:48] Come at me,

[1:28:49] Internet.

[1:28:50] In between

[1:28:50] were some real oddities

[1:28:52] that I might never

[1:28:52] have otherwise caught up with

[1:28:54] like The Adventures of Prince Ahmed

[1:28:56] and Tetsuo,

[1:28:58] The Iron Man.

[1:28:59] My two-part question

[1:29:00] for you is this.

[1:29:01] Have you ever presented

[1:29:02] similar movie-related

[1:29:03] challenges for yourself

[1:29:04] and what were they?

[1:29:06] And what should

[1:29:06] my next challenge be?

[1:29:08] Thank you as always,

[1:29:09] Joshua,

[1:29:10] last name withheld.

Elliott Kalan

[1:29:12] I'll jump in

[1:29:12] and say that

[1:29:13] this is something

[1:29:14] I always,

[1:29:14] when I was a teenager

[1:29:15] in high school,

[1:29:16] hard to believe

[1:29:17] I was ever that young,

[1:29:18] I had some friends

[1:29:19] where I was like,

[1:29:20] every weekend

[1:29:21] we should watch

[1:29:22] like a whole series

[1:29:23] of movies.

[1:29:24] Like we should watch

[1:29:24] all the Planet of the Apes movies

[1:29:25] or like watch

[1:29:26] all the James Bond movies

[1:29:28] for a couple weekends

[1:29:28] and none of my friends

[1:29:29] ever wanted to do that with me.

[1:29:31] And so I desperately

[1:29:32] wanted to do something

[1:29:32] like this and didn't.

[1:29:33] So I guess the closest thing

[1:29:34] would be when me

[1:29:35] and my old friend Brock

[1:29:36] went to the Guggenheim

[1:29:37] and watched all the

[1:29:38] Craymaster movies

[1:29:39] one after another

[1:29:39] in one day

[1:29:40] and it was like

[1:29:41] eight or nine hours

[1:29:42] of just sitting there

[1:29:43] and you couldn't leave

[1:29:44] or else somebody

[1:29:45] would take your seat.

[1:29:46] So I was just sitting there

[1:29:47] in the Guggenheim Theater

[1:29:47] with one package of goldfish

[1:29:49] and a bottle of water

[1:29:50] and that was all

[1:29:51] that I had all day

[1:29:52] and it was crazy.

[1:29:53] Oh boy.

[1:29:55] That's,

[1:29:56] I mean,

[1:29:57] that is a challenge.

[1:29:59] Yeah.

[1:30:00] Okay.

[1:30:00] And you know what?

[1:30:01] I came through that challenge

[1:30:02] stronger

[1:30:02] and with very firm opinions

[1:30:05] on which of the

[1:30:06] Craymaster movies

[1:30:06] are good

[1:30:07] and which are not.

[1:30:07] Allow me to explain.

[1:30:09] So anyway,

Dan McCoy

[1:30:11] I don't know

[1:30:12] if I have a good one

[1:30:13] for this.

[1:30:14] I've got,

[1:30:14] I've done a few like

[1:30:15] movie marathons

[1:30:16] at the Alamo

[1:30:17] where I've sat through

[1:30:18] like four or five movies

[1:30:19] at a time

[1:30:20] and stayed awake

[1:30:22] for most of it

[1:30:23] and otherwise like

Stuart Wellington

[1:30:25] Sounds pretty charitable

[1:30:27] but go on.

Dan McCoy

[1:30:30] Otherwise,

[1:30:30] the first thing

[1:30:31] that springs to mind,

[1:30:32] it's not a movie challenge

[1:30:34] but I find it

[1:30:34] sort of amusing.

[1:30:36] My church group

[1:30:36] when I was young

[1:30:37] arranged it

[1:30:39] an event

[1:30:39] where like

[1:30:39] we just movie hopped

[1:30:40] in a theater,

[1:30:41] you know,

[1:30:41] we paid for everything

[1:30:42] ahead of time

[1:30:42] and then just like

[1:30:43] we saw three movies

[1:30:44] in a row

[1:30:44] and the movies we saw

[1:30:45] were

[1:30:46] Robin Hood,

[1:30:48] Men in Tights,

[1:30:50] The Fugitive,

[1:30:51] and So I Married

[1:30:53] an Axe Murderer.

[1:30:55] I don't know,

[1:30:55] I just found that

[1:30:56] that smorgasbord

[1:30:58] amusing somehow.

[1:30:59] Which Robin Hood?

[1:31:00] Prince of Thieves

[1:31:01] or Men in Tights?

[1:31:01] Men in Tights.

[1:31:02] Okay.

Elliott Kalan

[1:31:03] My family,

[1:31:04] we used to do that

[1:31:04] a lot.

[1:31:05] We would go

[1:31:05] and we'd see like

[1:31:06] a couple movies

[1:31:07] in one day

[1:31:07] and I do remember

[1:31:08] the day we saw

[1:31:09] three movies.

[1:31:09] We saw The Lion King,

[1:31:11] another movie that I do

[1:31:12] not remember,

[1:31:13] and Getting Even

[1:31:13] with Dad

[1:31:14] starring Macaulay Culkin

[1:31:15] and Ted Danson

[1:31:15] and it was like

[1:31:16] and afterwards

[1:31:17] we all walked out

[1:31:18] and we were like

[1:31:18] we should not have

[1:31:19] started the day

[1:31:19] with The Lion King.

[1:31:20] We should have

[1:31:20] ended with The Lion King

[1:31:22] because it was such

[1:31:23] a drop off in quality.

Dan McCoy

[1:31:25] Anyone else have

[1:31:26] movie challenges?

Elliott Kalan

[1:31:27] But did he ever

[1:31:28] get even with Dad?

[1:31:30] He does get even

[1:31:31] with Dad.

[1:31:32] That's good to hear.

[1:31:32] It involves

[1:31:33] stolen money

[1:31:34] in a bag

[1:31:36] hanging on a mannequin

[1:31:36] in a display window.

[1:31:38] This is a movie

[1:31:38] I saw once

[1:31:39] when I was a kid

[1:31:40] and I remember it better

[1:31:41] than I remember things

[1:31:41] that happened to me

[1:31:42] in real life.

Stuart Wellington

[1:31:44] I don't know.

[1:31:46] I mean like

[1:31:46] recently

[1:31:47] before Avengers Infinity War

[1:31:50] I watched all

[1:31:51] of the Marvel movies

[1:31:52] in order

[1:31:52] not in one sitting.

[1:31:54] Oh yeah I did that too.

[1:31:55] But spread out over

[1:31:56] you know

[1:31:56] a couple of weeks

[1:31:57] but that's

[1:31:58] that's pretty

[1:31:59] I mean I've watched

[1:32:00] like all the Star Wars

[1:32:02] movies in a row

[1:32:03] but that was back

[1:32:04] when there was only

[1:32:04] like three to six

[1:32:06] of them.

[1:32:07] Let's see.

[1:32:09] I mean the

[1:32:10] coolest thing

[1:32:11] I ever did

[1:32:12] was

[1:32:12] Really?

[1:32:13] No this is hands down

[1:32:14] the coolest thing

[1:32:15] I ever did

[1:32:16] was when

[1:32:16] Return of the King

[1:32:17] was being released

[1:32:18] in movie theaters

[1:32:19] I bought tickets

[1:32:20] to one of the few

[1:32:21] showings

[1:32:22] of

[1:32:23] where they would show

[1:32:25] the extended version

[1:32:26] of The Fellowship of the Ring

[1:32:27] followed by extended version

[1:32:28] of Two Towers

[1:32:29] short break

[1:32:30] and then an early

[1:32:31] screening of

[1:32:34] and there weren't

[1:32:35] that many theaters

[1:32:36] doing that

[1:32:37] so

[1:32:38] I wonder why

[1:32:40] Yeah it was

[1:32:40] I mean I don't know

[1:32:41] I feel like now

[1:32:42] that kind of a marathon

[1:32:43] would

[1:32:44] was pretty common

[1:32:45] Yeah that's true

[1:32:46] but the cool thing

[1:32:47] was they

[1:32:48] they made a point

[1:32:49] of telling us

[1:32:50] to be in our seats

[1:32:51] early before

[1:32:52] and I'm like

[1:32:52] oh man this is

[1:32:54] gonna be good

[1:32:54] and of course

[1:32:55] before the movie

[1:32:56] they brought out

[1:32:57] Dominic Monaghan

[1:32:58] Sean Astin

[1:32:59] Elijah Wood

[1:33:00] and Andy Serkis

[1:33:01] to introduce the movie

[1:33:03] I was very lucky

[1:33:04] that it wasn't

[1:33:05] Peter Jackson

[1:33:05] or else I probably

[1:33:06] would have gone to jail

[1:33:07] for attacking him

[1:33:09] with love

[1:33:10] not violence

[1:33:11] but sometimes

[1:33:12] it's you know

[1:33:13] it gets confusing

Natalie Walker

[1:33:13] He's a very nice man

Stuart Wellington

[1:33:15] Wait Peter Jackson?

[1:33:16] Yeah

[1:33:16] Oh wow

Natalie Walker

[1:33:17] I got to meet him

[1:33:18] at Vulture Comic Con

[1:33:19] because they had me

[1:33:20] like run their

[1:33:21] interview studio

[1:33:21] and I've literally

[1:33:23] never seen any

[1:33:24] of the Lord of the Rings

[1:33:25] movies

[1:33:26] You want to

[1:33:28] murder me

[1:33:29] with a gun

[1:33:30] I mean

[1:33:31] I'm jealous

Stuart Wellington

[1:33:31] that I don't get

[1:33:33] to be you

[1:33:33] and see them

[1:33:34] for the first time

Natalie Walker

[1:33:35] One day

[1:33:36] oh my god

[1:33:37] you and my boyfriend

[1:33:38] you're just waiting

[1:33:39] I'm like nervous

[1:33:39] that I will hate it

[1:33:40] because the people

[1:33:42] that I know

[1:33:42] love it so much

[1:33:43] and it doesn't

[1:33:44] seem like my bag

[1:33:45] but he's everything

[1:33:46] you would want him

[1:33:47] to be

[1:33:48] he's just like

[1:33:48] a sweet little

[1:33:49] Winnie the Pooh Bear man

[1:33:50] who's in like

[1:33:51] a white button down

[1:33:53] and the bottom

[1:33:53] the bottom button

[1:33:54] was unbuttoned

[1:33:55] and the whole interview

[1:33:56] you could just see

[1:33:57] his little Tommy

[1:33:58] popping out

[1:33:58] it's adorable

[1:33:59] it's adorable

[1:34:00] he was lovely

[1:34:01] and he said

[1:34:02] he wanted more

[1:34:03] than anything

[1:34:03] because I talked

[1:34:04] to him about

[1:34:05] making cameos

[1:34:06] in his own stuff

[1:34:07] and I said

[1:34:08] if you could do

[1:34:09] a cameo

[1:34:09] on whatever

[1:34:10] he was like

[1:34:10] I want to be

[1:34:11] a zombie

[1:34:11] on The Walking Dead

[1:34:12] but I want to be

[1:34:12] a good zombie

[1:34:13] that like

[1:34:14] kills someone

[1:34:14] I don't want to be

[1:34:15] just like a walk-on zombie

[1:34:16] I want to have

[1:34:17] an actual meaty role

Stuart Wellington

[1:34:18] oh yeah

[1:34:18] meaty pun intended

[1:34:20] I guess

[1:34:20] that's great

[1:34:21] oh that's a great story

Dan McCoy

[1:34:24] or is this just

[1:34:24] something that dumb

[1:34:25] people do

Natalie Walker

[1:34:25] no I have always

[1:34:27] wanted to do

Stuart Wellington

[1:34:28] or cool people

[1:34:28] like the guy

[1:34:29] who wrote in

Natalie Walker

[1:34:30] I've always wanted

[1:34:31] to do something

[1:34:32] like this

[1:34:33] sort of similar

[1:34:33] to Elliot

[1:34:34] I had like

[1:34:34] no friends

[1:34:35] in middle school

[1:34:36] and so I was

[1:34:37] always like

[1:34:37] what if I did this

[1:34:38] and I like

[1:34:39] got a friend

[1:34:39] to do this with

[1:34:40] and it felt

[1:34:41] sad doing it

[1:34:42] by myself

[1:34:42] so I just

[1:34:43] didn't do it

[1:34:44] but we used

[1:34:44] to have like

[1:34:45] marathons

[1:34:45] my family

[1:34:45] would have

[1:34:46] marathons

[1:34:46] mostly in that

[1:34:47] my mom is

[1:34:48] obsessed with

[1:34:48] Denzel Washington

[1:34:49] and she would

[1:34:50] have on certain

[1:34:51] weekends

[1:34:52] she would have

[1:34:52] a Denzel

[1:34:53] festival

[1:34:53] and she would

[1:34:56] just

[1:34:57] we would watch

[1:34:58] like six or

[1:34:59] seven Denzel

[1:35:00] Washington movies

[1:35:01] in a weekend

[1:35:01] and like you

[1:35:02] didn't have to

[1:35:02] sit down and

[1:35:03] watch them the

[1:35:03] whole time

[1:35:03] but they would

[1:35:04] just be

[1:35:04] constantly on

[1:35:05] throughout

[1:35:06] so yeah

[1:35:07] that's probably

[1:35:08] the closest thing

[1:35:09] I've thought

[1:35:09] about doing

[1:35:10] the Marvel

[1:35:12] run through

[1:35:14] everything

[1:35:14] Nicole Silverberg

[1:35:15] did it

[1:35:16] Nicole Silverberg

[1:35:17] is like a

[1:35:17] really funny

[1:35:18] wonderful

[1:35:18] comedy writer

[1:35:19] for Sam B

[1:35:20] and she

[1:35:22] this spring

[1:35:23] went through

[1:35:24] all of them

[1:35:24] and had like

[1:35:25] a Twitter thread

[1:35:26] of all of her

[1:35:27] thoughts on them

[1:35:27] and it made me

[1:35:28] really want to

[1:35:28] watch them

[1:35:29] because she had

[1:35:30] sort of the

[1:35:30] exact take

[1:35:31] that I feel

[1:35:31] like I would

[1:35:32] have had

[1:35:32] and it seemed

[1:35:33] like she had

[1:35:33] fun

[1:35:33] all right

Stuart Wellington

[1:35:35] yeah I had a

[1:35:36] good time doing

[1:35:36] it I had no

[1:35:37] takes I just

[1:35:39] watched them

Dan McCoy

[1:35:40] let's move on

[1:35:42] to the next

[1:35:42] letter from

[1:35:43] Mike last name

[1:35:44] withheld

[1:35:44] he writes

[1:35:45] dearest floppers

[1:35:46] I think I have

[1:35:47] an answer to a

[1:35:48] question you brought

[1:35:49] up during the

[1:35:49] serenity episode

[1:35:50] wondering why

[1:35:52] Matthew McConaughey

[1:35:52] seems to have a

[1:35:54] thong tan

[1:35:54] this must have

[1:35:56] been

[1:35:56] did that come up

[1:35:57] Stuart said

[1:35:58] something about it

[1:35:58] talked about his

Stuart Wellington

[1:35:59] whale tail tan

Dan McCoy

[1:36:00] this must have

[1:36:01] been made

[1:36:02] immediately after

[1:36:02] filming the

[1:36:03] beach bum

[1:36:04] in which neon

[1:36:05] thongs are among

[1:36:06] the tamer parts

[1:36:06] of his wardrobe

[1:36:07] which also includes

[1:36:08] flip up shades

[1:36:09] velcro sneakers

[1:36:10] and floral dresses

[1:36:11] I hope this has

[1:36:12] brought you a

[1:36:12] small amount of

[1:36:13] peace love

[1:36:14] Mike last name

[1:36:15] withheld

[1:36:15] has this brought

[1:36:16] you peace

[1:36:16] Stuart

Stuart Wellington

[1:36:17] I think I can

[1:36:19] sleep again

Elliott Kalan

[1:36:20] what this tells

[1:36:22] me is that

[1:36:22] Matthew McConaughey

[1:36:23] is choosing his

[1:36:23] roles based on

[1:36:24] whether he's at

[1:36:25] the beach

[1:36:25] while he's making

[1:36:26] them

Stuart Wellington

[1:36:27] I mean Adam

[1:36:28] Sandler's entire

[1:36:29] movie career is

[1:36:30] based on where he

[1:36:31] wants to go on

[1:36:31] vacation

Elliott Kalan

[1:36:32] yeah that's true

[1:36:33] his entire movie

[1:36:34] career

[1:36:34] little Nicky

[1:36:36] Billy Madison

[1:36:37] punch drunk love

[1:36:41] yep

Dan McCoy

[1:36:42] they do go to

[1:36:44] Hawaii at one

[1:36:45] point in that

[1:36:45] but I don't think

[1:36:47] that was his

[1:36:47] motivating factor

[1:36:48] okay well this is

[1:36:50] a short letters

[1:36:50] segment this week

[1:36:52] I have one more

[1:36:53] it's a very short

[1:36:54] one it's from

[1:36:55] my dad

[1:36:56] last name

[1:36:57] withheld

[1:36:57] oh

Elliott Kalan

[1:36:58] wait the name

[1:37:00] is my dad

[1:37:00] or it's your dad

[1:37:01] it's my dad

[1:37:02] wait yeah is the

[1:37:03] name my dad

[1:37:04] or it's your dad

Dan McCoy

[1:37:05] no me Dan

[1:37:06] I have a father

[1:37:07] and this is him

Elliott Kalan

[1:37:08] okay and his name

[1:37:10] is my dad

[1:37:10] no

Dan McCoy

[1:37:11] his name

[1:37:12] his name is Jerry

[1:37:13] oh okay

[1:37:14] last name withheld

[1:37:15] yeah

[1:37:16] and dad says

[1:37:18] I'd like to recommend

[1:37:19] a movie I've just

[1:37:20] seen

[1:37:20] the Guernsey

[1:37:21] Literary and

[1:37:22] Potato Peel Society

[1:37:23] charming story

[1:37:24] beautiful scenery

[1:37:25] and good acting

[1:37:26] now

[1:37:27] dad should know

[1:37:29] by now that we

[1:37:29] don't really take

[1:37:30] requests

[1:37:30] unless he wins

[1:37:32] a contest

[1:37:33] he should get up

[1:37:34] with a t-shirt

[1:37:34] design

[1:37:35] I thought he liked

[1:37:35] it

[1:37:35] yeah he liked it

[1:37:36] he likes it

[1:37:37] I think he doesn't

[1:37:38] fully understand

[1:37:39] the premise of the

[1:37:39] show

[1:37:40] is this for the

[1:37:40] recommendation

[1:37:41] segment you think

[1:37:42] of them

Natalie Walker

[1:37:42] yeah

[1:37:43] what do we

Dan McCoy

[1:37:44] think

[1:37:45] he says

Natalie Walker

[1:37:45] good acting

[1:37:47] and

Dan McCoy

[1:37:48] think the Guernsey

[1:37:48] Literary and Potato

[1:37:49] Peel Society

[1:37:50] is about

[1:37:51] guys

[1:37:51] no it's one of

[1:37:52] these Downton Abbey

[1:37:53] extravaganza

[1:37:54] I remember

Natalie Walker

[1:37:54] seeing things

[1:37:55] it's like

[1:37:55] everyone's in

[1:37:56] like period

[1:37:57] clothes I think

[1:37:57] and

[1:37:58] oh it's not

[1:37:59] like

[1:37:59] vaguely eccentric

[1:38:00] quirky

[1:38:01] I saw the

Stuart Wellington

[1:38:04] ads for the

[1:38:04] Downton Abbey

[1:38:05] movie as like

[1:38:06] a trailer

[1:38:07] and I've never

[1:38:08] seen the show

[1:38:09] and I felt like

[1:38:10] the trailer

[1:38:11] was assuming

[1:38:12] my interest

[1:38:13] level was higher

Natalie Walker

[1:38:14] oh yes

[1:38:14] no they're going

[1:38:15] into this movie

[1:38:16] being like

[1:38:16] everyone loves

[1:38:17] this

[1:38:18] I watched

[1:38:18] the first season

[1:38:19] and then I was

[1:38:20] like okay

Dan McCoy

[1:38:21] yeah I mean

[1:38:22] I watched

[1:38:23] Up Until

[1:38:23] Bath you

[1:38:23] died

[1:38:24] and I'm

[1:38:24] like what's

[1:38:24] the point

[1:38:24] of this

Natalie Walker

[1:38:25] yeah my

[1:38:25] boy Dan

[1:38:26] Stevens

[1:38:27] is gone

Elliott Kalan

[1:38:27] to be honest

[1:38:28] I don't think

[1:38:29] anyone's jumping

[1:38:30] on the Downton

[1:38:31] Abbey train

[1:38:31] now with the

[1:38:32] movie

[1:38:32] it's like

[1:38:33] with Avengers

[1:38:34] Endgame

[1:38:35] the reviews

[1:38:36] stopped being

[1:38:37] like but does

[1:38:37] it stand on

[1:38:38] its own

[1:38:38] as a movie

[1:38:38] because it's

[1:38:39] like why

[1:38:39] why would

[1:38:40] you ask

[1:38:40] that question

Stuart Wellington

[1:38:41] but do you

[1:38:42] think they're

[1:38:43] like maybe

[1:38:43] it'll be

[1:38:44] like a

[1:38:44] Serenity

[1:38:45] and Firefly

[1:38:46] type thing

[1:38:47] where people

[1:38:47] will

[1:38:48] who have not

[1:38:48] seen the

[1:38:49] television show

[1:38:49] because it

[1:38:50] didn't have

[1:38:50] as many viewers

[1:38:51] originally

[1:38:52] will see the

[1:38:53] movie and

[1:38:53] then want to

[1:38:53] go back

[1:38:54] and watch

[1:38:54] it

Elliott Kalan

[1:38:54] I doubt

[1:38:55] it

[1:38:55] I mean

[1:38:56] the same

[1:38:56] way that I

[1:38:56] don't think

[1:38:57] Deadwood the

[1:38:57] movie is the

[1:38:58] ideal jumping

[1:38:59] on point for

[1:39:00] newbies to the

[1:39:01] Deadwoodiverse

[1:39:01] you know like

[1:39:03] there's gonna be a lot

[1:39:04] of casual

[1:39:04] walk-ins for the

[1:39:05] Downton Abbey movie

[1:39:06] which I assume is

[1:39:07] called Downton

[1:39:07] Abbey Infinity

[1:39:08] War

[1:39:08] I think Alonzo

[1:39:11] Duraldo was

[1:39:11] talking on

[1:39:12] on Linoleum

[1:39:13] Knife

[1:39:13] is he on

[1:39:13] Linoleum

[1:39:14] Knife

[1:39:14] or on

[1:39:14] Who Shot

[1:39:15] You

[1:39:15] about how

[1:39:15] there's always

[1:39:16] an audience

[1:39:16] in America

[1:39:17] for movies

[1:39:18] that involve

[1:39:19] kind of like

[1:39:20] matronly

[1:39:21] British women

[1:39:21] doing things

[1:39:23] like that audience

[1:39:24] is always kind of

[1:39:25] steady and stable

[1:39:25] this Anglophile

[1:39:26] audience

[1:39:27] so I assume

[1:39:27] that's what

[1:39:27] this Crumpet

[1:39:28] Literary Society

[1:39:29] movie is about

[1:39:30] yeah

[1:39:31] all right

[1:39:32] well

Stuart Wellington

[1:39:33] Guernsey

[1:39:35] hopefully she's

[1:39:36] like solving

[1:39:37] crimes too

[1:39:37] if she's solving

[1:39:38] like somewhat

[1:39:39] pleasant crimes

[1:39:40] pleasant murders

[1:39:42] yeah

Dan McCoy

[1:39:44] the next part

[1:39:45] of the show

[1:39:46] in case you've

[1:39:47] forgotten

[1:39:48] or are listening

[1:39:48] for the first time

[1:39:50] is recommendations

[1:39:51] of movies

[1:39:52] we actually liked

[1:39:52] that you should

[1:39:53] watch instead

[1:39:54] of The Haunting

[1:39:54] of Sharon Tate

[1:39:56] does anyone

[1:39:56] want to go first

[1:39:57] or

Elliott Kalan

[1:39:57] I'll go

[1:39:59] I've got a spooky

[1:39:59] tale

[1:40:00] based on a true

[1:40:01] story

[1:40:01] it's called

[1:40:01] The Haunting

[1:40:02] of Sharon Tate

[1:40:03] oh wait

[1:40:03] are we not

[1:40:04] supposed to

[1:40:04] recommend

[1:40:05] somebody else

[1:40:07] go first

[1:40:07] I don't have

[1:40:07] to go first

Stuart Wellington

[1:40:08] okay

[1:40:09] I was just

[1:40:11] doing that bit

[1:40:11] it briefly

[1:40:12] gives up the

[1:40:13] spotlight

[1:40:13] I'll recommend

[1:40:16] I will recommend

[1:40:18] a horror movie

[1:40:19] I'm recommending

[1:40:20] the Iranian

[1:40:21] period piece

[1:40:22] Under the Shadow

[1:40:23] directed by

[1:40:24] Babak Anvari

[1:40:26] it's about

[1:40:27] a young mother

[1:40:28] who is having

[1:40:30] trouble

[1:40:30] she's having

[1:40:32] trouble

[1:40:32] getting back

[1:40:33] into her

[1:40:34] life

[1:40:34] due to

[1:40:34] previous

[1:40:35] political

[1:40:35] leanings

[1:40:36] and her

[1:40:38] husband

[1:40:38] gets drafted

[1:40:40] and called

[1:40:41] to the front

[1:40:41] and the

[1:40:43] so she has

[1:40:44] to raise her

[1:40:45] child on her

[1:40:45] own and

[1:40:46] she has

[1:40:46] she's struggling

[1:40:47] with her

[1:40:47] daughter's own

[1:40:48] fears

[1:40:48] her fears

[1:40:49] of both

[1:40:50] her life

[1:40:51] and her

[1:40:51] inadequacy

[1:40:52] possibly her

[1:40:53] inadequacies as

[1:40:54] mother

[1:40:54] and also

[1:40:55] about the

[1:40:56] oncoming

[1:40:57] war

[1:40:58] with

[1:40:58] Iraq

[1:40:59] and

[1:41:00] it's

[1:41:00] great

[1:41:01] it's

[1:41:01] short

[1:41:02] and it

[1:41:03] trods

[1:41:03] some

[1:41:04] well-worn

[1:41:04] territory

[1:41:05] but it

[1:41:05] adds a

[1:41:06] couple

[1:41:06] neat

[1:41:06] little

[1:41:07] nuances

[1:41:07] it's

[1:41:08] cool

[1:41:08] check it

[1:41:08] out

[1:41:09] Under the

[1:41:09] Shadow

Dan McCoy

[1:41:09] I'm gonna

[1:41:11] recommend

[1:41:11] a movie

[1:41:12] from 1927

[1:41:14] and it

[1:41:15] stars

[1:41:15] Harold

[1:41:16] Lloyd

[1:41:16] and it's

[1:41:17] called

[1:41:18] The Kid

[1:41:18] Brother

[1:41:19] and I'll

[1:41:20] just read

[1:41:21] the IMDB

[1:41:23] summary

[1:41:24] seems to

[1:41:24] sum it up

[1:41:25] pretty well

[1:41:25] a sheriff's

[1:41:26] milquetoast son

[1:41:27] has a chance

[1:41:28] to prove himself

[1:41:28] when a medicine

[1:41:29] show run by

[1:41:30] con artists

[1:41:30] comes into

[1:41:31] town

[1:41:31] and you know

[1:41:32] I mean

[1:41:33] I'm a

[1:41:34] Buster Keaton

[1:41:35] proponent

[1:41:36] mostly for

[1:41:37] talking the

[1:41:38] class

[1:41:38] I mean I

[1:41:39] feel like

[1:41:39] people always

[1:41:39] feel the need

[1:41:40] to put them

[1:41:40] up against

[1:41:41] each other

[1:41:41] the classic

[1:41:42] silent movie

[1:41:42] clowns

[1:41:44] but that was

[1:41:44] the big

Elliott Kalan

[1:41:45] debate at the

[1:41:45] time is

[1:41:46] who would

[1:41:46] win in a

[1:41:46] fight

[1:41:47] Buster Keaton

[1:41:48] or Howard

[1:41:48] Lloyd

[1:41:48] who's

[1:41:49] stronger

[1:41:49] or Charlie

[1:41:50] Chaplin

[1:41:50] but I

Stuart Wellington

[1:41:51] see guys

[1:41:52] in the

[1:41:52] bar

[1:41:53] always

[1:41:53] getting

[1:41:53] almost

[1:41:54] coming to

[1:41:54] blows

[1:41:54] over this

Dan McCoy

[1:41:55] yeah

[1:41:56] but I

[1:41:57] think

[1:41:57] Harold

[1:41:57] Lloyd

[1:41:58] is actually

[1:41:58] my second

[1:41:59] favorite

[1:41:59] and I

[1:42:00] think he

[1:42:00] constructs

[1:42:02] crazy

[1:42:02] gags

[1:42:03] almost as

[1:42:04] well

[1:42:04] and with

[1:42:05] almost as

[1:42:05] much

[1:42:06] daring

[1:42:06] so

[1:42:07] just

[1:42:08] see it

[1:42:09] it's on

[1:42:09] the

[1:42:09] criterion

[1:42:09] channel

[1:42:10] if you've

[1:42:10] got that

[1:42:10] that's where

[1:42:11] I came

[1:42:12] across it

[1:42:12] that's it

Elliott Kalan

[1:42:13] I'll go

[1:42:14] last

[1:42:15] Natalie

[1:42:15] you go

[1:42:15] next

[1:42:15] I'll go

[1:42:16] last

Natalie Walker

[1:42:16] great

[1:42:17] I am

[1:42:17] going to

[1:42:17] recommend

[1:42:18] a movie

[1:42:18] that is

[1:42:19] coming up

[1:42:19] on its

[1:42:19] 20th

[1:42:20] anniversary

[1:42:20] and it's

[1:42:21] like

[1:42:21] very much

[1:42:22] holy text

[1:42:23] to some

[1:42:24] people

[1:42:24] myself

[1:42:24] included

[1:42:25] but

[1:42:25] now that

[1:42:26] it's

[1:42:26] going to

[1:42:26] be

[1:42:27] on Hulu

[1:42:27] it's

[1:42:28] like

[1:42:28] just

[1:42:28] become

[1:42:29] readily

[1:42:29] available

[1:42:30] on Hulu

[1:42:30] now

[1:42:31] I want

[1:42:31] to tell

[1:42:31] more

[1:42:32] people

[1:42:32] about

[1:42:32] it

[1:42:32] the movie

[1:42:33] Drop Dead

[1:42:33] Gorgeous

[1:42:34] came out

[1:42:35] in 1999

[1:42:35] there's like

[1:42:37] one plot

[1:42:37] line in it

[1:42:38] that has not

[1:42:38] aged well

[1:42:39] involving

[1:42:39] Will Sasso

[1:42:40] so if you

[1:42:41] haven't seen

[1:42:42] it and you

[1:42:42] watched that

[1:42:43] take that

[1:42:44] with a grain

[1:42:44] of salt

[1:42:45] but everything

[1:42:45] else about

[1:42:46] it is

[1:42:46] so good

[1:42:47] it's about

[1:42:48] a beauty

[1:42:48] pageant

[1:42:49] in Minneapolis

[1:42:50] Minnesota

[1:42:50] in Mount

[1:42:51] Rose

[1:42:52] specifically

[1:42:53] and it's

[1:42:55] Kirstie Alley

[1:42:55] as sort of

[1:42:56] the ringleader

[1:42:57] of the

[1:42:58] local

[1:42:58] pageant

[1:42:58] very young

[1:42:59] Kirsten Dunst

[1:43:00] as sort of

[1:43:01] the young

[1:43:02] upstart

[1:43:02] that's going

[1:43:03] to upset

[1:43:04] everything

[1:43:04] the sort

[1:43:05] of dark

[1:43:05] horse

[1:43:06] in the

[1:43:06] teen

[1:43:07] princess

[1:43:07] race

[1:43:08] her mom

[1:43:09] is played

[1:43:10] by Ellen

[1:43:10] Barkin

[1:43:11] her mom's

[1:43:12] trailer trash

[1:43:13] best friend

[1:43:13] is played

[1:43:13] by Allison

[1:43:14] Janney

[1:43:14] it's Amy

[1:43:16] Adams

[1:43:16] first film

[1:43:17] role

[1:43:18] I believe

[1:43:18] she's

[1:43:19] a sort

[1:43:21] of ditzy

[1:43:21] cheerleader

[1:43:22] and she's

[1:43:22] brilliant in it

[1:43:23] Brittany Murphy

[1:43:24] is also in it

[1:43:25] it's just

[1:43:25] Denise Richards

[1:43:26] it's just

[1:43:27] sort of

[1:43:27] like a

[1:43:28] murderer's

[1:43:28] row

[1:43:28] of

[1:43:29] young

[1:43:30] actresses

[1:43:31] and like

[1:43:32] older

[1:43:32] character

[1:43:33] actresses

[1:43:33] before

[1:43:34] Hollywood

[1:43:34] started

[1:43:35] really

[1:43:35] recognizing

[1:43:35] older

[1:43:36] character

[1:43:37] actresses

[1:43:37] and giving

[1:43:37] them more

[1:43:38] to do

[1:43:38] and it's

[1:43:39] so funny

[1:43:40] and so

[1:43:40] sharp

[1:43:41] and

[1:43:41] Nora Dunn

[1:43:42] is there

[1:43:42] as well

[1:43:43] it's just

[1:43:43] everyone

[1:43:44] that you

[1:43:45] want to

[1:43:45] see

[1:43:45] in a

[1:43:46] female

[1:43:46] driven

[1:43:47] comedy

[1:43:47] basically

[1:43:47] so

[1:43:48] watch it

[1:43:49] yeah

[1:43:49] it's

[1:43:50] great

Elliott Kalan

[1:43:50] I'm

[1:43:51] going to

[1:43:51] recommend

[1:43:52] a movie

[1:43:52] that was

[1:43:52] not

[1:43:53] chosen

[1:43:53] because

[1:43:54] Natalie

[1:43:54] is the

[1:43:55] guest

[1:43:55] day

[1:43:55] but it

[1:43:55] is of

[1:43:57] a theme

[1:43:58] a musical

[1:43:58] theater

[1:43:58] type

[1:43:59] thing

[1:43:59] this is

[1:44:01] a documentary

[1:44:01] that's on

[1:44:02] Netflix

[1:44:02] right now

[1:44:03] bathtubs

[1:44:03] over

[1:44:04] Broadway

[1:44:04] and it's

[1:44:05] the true

[1:44:06] story

[1:44:07] a documentary

[1:44:07] of

[1:44:08] there's a guy

[1:44:09] who at the time

[1:44:10] they started

[1:44:10] making the movie

[1:44:11] this guy

[1:44:12] Steve Young

[1:44:12] was a

[1:44:13] writer for

[1:44:14] Letterman

[1:44:14] and part

[1:44:15] of his job

[1:44:16] was to find

[1:44:16] weird record

[1:44:17] albums

[1:44:17] for the show

[1:44:18] and it

[1:44:19] caused him

[1:44:19] to stumble

[1:44:19] into the world

[1:44:20] of industrial

[1:44:20] musicals

[1:44:21] musicals

[1:44:22] that were

[1:44:22] produced

[1:44:22] purely to be

[1:44:23] shown at

[1:44:24] conventions

[1:44:24] of employees

[1:44:26] for different

[1:44:26] corporations

[1:44:27] and then

[1:44:28] would be

[1:44:28] released on

[1:44:29] album as

[1:44:30] souvenirs

[1:44:30] for those

[1:44:31] employees

[1:44:31] and were

[1:44:31] not meant

[1:44:31] to be

[1:44:32] listened to

[1:44:32] outside the

[1:44:33] company

[1:44:33] or ever

[1:44:34] sold to

[1:44:34] the public

[1:44:35] and it

[1:44:36] I thought

[1:44:36] it's a movie

[1:44:37] that it's a

[1:44:38] it starts out

[1:44:38] really funny

[1:44:39] but I found

[1:44:40] I was very

[1:44:40] moved by it

[1:44:41] by the end

[1:44:42] starts off

[1:44:43] going through

[1:44:44] his

[1:44:44] relationship

[1:44:46] with it

[1:44:46] where it's

[1:44:47] like

[1:44:47] oh these

[1:44:47] are crazy

[1:44:48] can you imagine

[1:44:48] there's this

[1:44:49] whole musical

[1:44:49] about

[1:44:50] Lucite

[1:44:50] in 1972

[1:44:51] or like

[1:44:52] there's a

[1:44:52] musical

[1:44:53] that's all

[1:44:53] about

[1:44:53] bathroom

[1:44:54] fixtures

[1:44:54] and then

[1:44:56] he goes

[1:44:56] and meets

[1:44:57] the people

[1:44:57] who worked

[1:44:57] on the

[1:44:58] shows

[1:44:58] who wrote

[1:44:58] them

[1:44:59] performed

[1:44:59] in them

[1:45:00] and it

[1:45:00] becomes

[1:45:00] very clear

[1:45:01] that they

[1:45:01] were putting

[1:45:02] as much

[1:45:03] of their

[1:45:03] own selves

[1:45:04] into this

[1:45:05] musical

[1:45:06] that would

[1:45:06] be performed

[1:45:06] once

[1:45:07] maybe twice

[1:45:08] and then

[1:45:08] never again

[1:45:08] as you would

[1:45:09] into a real

[1:45:11] Broadway musical

[1:45:12] and so

[1:45:13] it starts out

[1:45:14] oh these

[1:45:15] companies are

[1:45:16] like perverting

[1:45:17] this art form

[1:45:18] to just get

[1:45:18] across how

[1:45:19] great the

[1:45:19] companies are

[1:45:19] but then you

[1:45:20] see like

[1:45:20] oh no

[1:45:21] but like

[1:45:21] these songs

[1:45:22] that are

[1:45:22] about like

[1:45:23] there's one

[1:45:23] song called

[1:45:24] My Bathroom

[1:45:24] that gets

[1:45:25] played a few

[1:45:25] times in it

[1:45:26] where a woman

[1:45:26] sings about

[1:45:27] her bathroom

[1:45:27] is a special

[1:45:28] private room

[1:45:29] where she can

[1:45:29] go and dream

[1:45:30] and it's a

[1:45:31] ridiculous song

[1:45:32] but as you

[1:45:33] watch the movie

[1:45:33] you're like

[1:45:33] oh but this

[1:45:34] is

[1:45:34] these musicals

[1:45:36] are

[1:45:36] they're creating

[1:45:37] that space

[1:45:37] for these people

[1:45:38] where they can

[1:45:39] you know

[1:45:40] be professional

[1:45:41] performers

[1:45:41] in this world

[1:45:42] that most people

[1:45:43] never get to see

[1:45:44] and there's actually

[1:45:45] a really good

[1:45:46] amount of

[1:45:47] footage

[1:45:47] and music

[1:45:49] from these

[1:45:49] different industrial

[1:45:50] musicals

[1:45:50] so I liked a lot

[1:45:51] Bathtubs Over

[1:45:52] Broadway

[1:45:52] it's on Netflix

[1:45:52] right now

[1:45:53] yay

Dan McCoy

[1:45:55] okay well

[1:45:56] that's it

[1:45:57] for the show

[1:45:58] we made it

Elliott Kalan

[1:45:59] we made

[1:46:00] wait what

Dan McCoy

[1:46:00] we should thank

[1:46:01] Natalie

[1:46:02] oh yeah

[1:46:02] for being here

[1:46:03] and also

[1:46:04] Natalie

[1:46:04] you perform

[1:46:05] around

[1:46:06] places

[1:46:07] yes

[1:46:08] it's been said

[1:46:10] this show

[1:46:12] this show

Dan McCoy

[1:46:12] this show

Dan McCoy

[1:46:12] is gonna come

[1:46:13] out

[1:46:13] on July

[1:46:15] the 6th

[1:46:16] that's this

[1:46:16] coming Saturday

[1:46:17] is there anything

[1:46:18] you want to plug

[1:46:18] coming up

Natalie Walker

[1:46:19] yeah I'm hosting

[1:46:20] a show called

[1:46:22] Showgasm

[1:46:22] at Ars Nova

[1:46:23] on July 18th

[1:46:25] it's a Thursday

[1:46:26] at 8pm

[1:46:27] and they sort of

[1:46:28] like just give me

[1:46:29] free reign

[1:46:30] to bring on

[1:46:30] whoever I want

[1:46:31] and so it'll be

[1:46:32] a mixture of comedians

[1:46:33] and like brilliant

[1:46:34] musical performers

[1:46:35] and theater people

[1:46:36] and drag queens

[1:46:38] and weirdos

[1:46:38] and it'll be great

[1:46:39] so

[1:46:39] that sounds fun

[1:46:41] yeah

Dan McCoy

[1:46:41] anyone else

[1:46:43] want to plug

[1:46:44] anything

[1:46:44] I don't have

[1:46:44] anything

[1:46:45] since I asked

[1:46:46] Natalie

[1:46:46] I feel like

Stuart Wellington

[1:46:47] as I've mentioned

[1:46:48] before

[1:46:48] my wife

[1:46:49] has recently

[1:46:50] opened up

[1:46:50] a bar

[1:46:51] Minnie's Bar

[1:46:52] in Sunset Park

[1:46:52] Brooklyn

[1:46:53] please come visit

[1:46:54] it's a beautiful

[1:46:55] old spot

Dan McCoy

[1:46:56] and we should

[1:46:57] always thank our

[1:46:58] network

[1:46:58] MaximumFun.org

[1:47:00] for having us

[1:47:01] and improving

[1:47:03] our lives

[1:47:03] in countless ways

[1:47:04] I mean I could

[1:47:07] probably count them

[1:47:08] if I really wanted to

[1:47:09] you probably shouldn't

[1:47:10] there's a lot of them

[1:47:10] let's not put a number

Elliott Kalan

[1:47:12] on look

[1:47:12] let's not put numbers

[1:47:14] on these things

[1:47:14] let's just leave it

[1:47:15] as you've so strangely

[1:47:16] phrased it

Stuart Wellington

[1:47:17] you know

[1:47:19] you know Dan

[1:47:20] when we

[1:47:21] when I came over

[1:47:22] and you're like

[1:47:22] I don't know how

[1:47:23] we're going to talk

[1:47:24] about this movie

[1:47:24] I'm like

[1:47:25] I think we're going

[1:47:26] to be able to do it

[1:47:26] I think we did it

Dan McCoy

[1:47:28] great

[1:47:28] so I guess

[1:47:29] we're patting ourselves

[1:47:30] on the back

Elliott Kalan

[1:47:30] yeah

[1:47:31] maybe we're the

[1:47:32] you know

[1:47:32] we're the heroes

[1:47:33] of this one

[1:47:34] time for a victory lap

[1:47:35] is what I'm saying

[1:47:36] so MaximumFun

[1:47:37] has a lot of great shows

[1:47:38] please check out

[1:47:39] all of them

[1:47:40] and then continue

[1:47:41] listening to the ones

[1:47:41] that you like

[1:47:42] and then supporting them

[1:47:43] when that time comes

[1:47:44] you'll know it

[1:47:44] because we'll tell you

[1:47:45] about it a bunch of times

[1:47:46] if you'd like to support

[1:47:47] the Flophouse

[1:47:47] please leave a review

[1:47:49] a positive one

[1:47:50] I hope

[1:47:50] for us

[1:47:51] wherever you listen

[1:47:52] to your podcasts

[1:47:52] tell people about it

[1:47:53] tweet about it

[1:47:54] live it

[1:47:54] love it

[1:47:55] laugh it

[1:47:56] really live

[1:47:57] the Flophouse lifestyle

[1:47:58] which involves

[1:47:58] listening to the Flophouse

[1:47:59] telling people about it

[1:48:00] and then not bothering us

[1:48:02] if you see us in public

[1:48:03] oh come on

[1:48:05] no actually you can

[1:48:06] I actually like it

[1:48:07] when people come up

[1:48:07] and say hi

[1:48:07] come on

[1:48:08] there was a

[1:48:09] there was a time

[1:48:10] when I was

[1:48:11] visiting my in-laws

[1:48:12] and somebody wrote in

[1:48:14] an email to the Flophouse

[1:48:15] later saying like

[1:48:15] oh I thought it was Elliot

[1:48:16] but I didn't want to bother him

[1:48:17] in front of his family

[1:48:18] and I was having a real

[1:48:19] bad day that day

[1:48:20] and I was like

[1:48:21] oh I would have loved it

[1:48:22] if someone came up

[1:48:22] and told me they loved

[1:48:23] the Flophouse

[1:48:23] that would have really

[1:48:24] lifted my spirits

[1:48:24] and I don't know

[1:48:25] if I've told the story

[1:48:26] here on this

[1:48:26] the podcast for

[1:48:27] but there was a

[1:48:28] Father's Day

[1:48:29] where I went with my dad

[1:48:30] to the zoo

[1:48:31] and a Flophouse listener

[1:48:32] came up and said

[1:48:33] oh I love your show

[1:48:34] it's so great to meet you

[1:48:35] and my dad has been

[1:48:36] talking about that

[1:48:37] for years

[1:48:37] and brings it up

[1:48:38] all the time

[1:48:39] it really made his day

[1:48:39] so feel free

[1:48:41] to say hello

[1:48:41] but yeah

[1:48:42] tell people about us

[1:48:43] or you know

[1:48:44] just do what you can

[1:48:45] skywriting

[1:48:46] big banners

[1:48:47] parade

[1:48:48] national holiday

[1:48:49] any of those things

Dan McCoy

[1:48:50] alright well

[1:48:51] for the Flophouse

[1:48:52] I've been Dan McCoy

Stuart Wellington

[1:48:54] hey

[1:48:54] I've been Stuart Wellington

Elliott Kalan

[1:48:56] I'm Elliot Kalin

[1:48:57] you know me

[1:48:58] Elliot Kalin

[1:48:59] that's my name

[1:49:00] hey guys

[1:49:01] if you ever see me

[1:49:02] don't be afraid to say

[1:49:03] is that Elliot Kalin

[1:49:04] because it is

Natalie Walker

[1:49:05] I'm Natalie Walker

[1:49:07] you don't know me

[1:49:08] but now you do

[1:49:09] that should be

Dan McCoy

[1:49:12] your new slogan

Elliott Kalan

[1:49:13] I want that to be

[1:49:14] I want that to be

[1:49:15] your memoirs

[1:49:16] are you don't know me

[1:49:17] but now you do

[1:49:18] I like it

Dan McCoy

[1:49:20] because it's kind of a threat

[1:49:21] alright

[1:49:23] see you next time

[1:49:25] bye

[1:49:26] alright let's just

[1:49:39] start the show

[1:49:40] um

[1:49:41] how do we do it

[1:49:42] oh okay

[1:49:43] I remember

Elliott Kalan

[1:49:43] Dan

[1:49:44] we've been doing this

[1:49:45] for over a decade

[1:49:46] yeah but

[1:49:47] we haven't done it

Dan McCoy

[1:49:48] in a few weeks

[1:49:49] alright

Elliott Kalan

[1:49:49] y'all good point

[1:49:50] good point

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