FH Mini 15 - Tom Brokaw's Dune

[0:00] uh...

[0:04] everyone welcome to the flop house many the off week episodes were not talking

[0:10] about uh... bad movie were just kind of talking

[0:14] i'm dan mccoy

[0:15] i'm stewart wellington

[0:17] and on that

[0:18] tom brokaw

[0:20] american newsman and author of the greatest generation

[0:24] yeah i would say the definitive story of uh... the baby boomers

[0:29] yeah we've got a

[0:30] uh... probably our biggest get as a guest tom brokaw is here now and

[0:36] you're reading his credits right you're gonna give all those credits to everybody

[0:41] i can tell you're a big broke head uh... name for me what

[0:45] network did i anchor the

[0:47] lead evening news desk for twenty two years

[0:50] uh... that would be nbc tom

[0:52] well to be honest i did not expect you to get it correct and i feel a little

[0:57] silly for asking well okay well thomas here of course stepping in for elliot i

[1:01] got a i got a text right before the show

[1:04] he was saying something about a butt rash having like just like a terrible

[1:08] contagious butt rash uh... and that's weird really because normally he doesn't text he

[1:13] really only likes to call when he's calling us about butt rashes yeah

[1:17] uh...

[1:18] i've also received many calls in the night from elliot

[1:22] for that particular malady but i'm weird it's weird you'd think he'd just go to bed

[1:26] instead of stay up all night with a butt rash but i guess when you got a butt rash

[1:29] you're like fuck it up i'm just gonna make an all nighter out of it sometimes sometimes

[1:34] it's a matter of not being able to sleep

[1:36] oh yeah i didn't think about that

[1:38] so uh... yeah i mean tom just kind of

[1:41] swooped in it was like it was weird we didn't even really ask him

[1:45] to come he just heard i don't know how that elliot was not going to be here and he just

[1:50] jumped in

[1:51] well as i say as america's favorite newsman for

[1:54] twenty two years running i have my ways of getting

[1:57] news now i also wanted to take this opportunity because i do have something

[2:03] specific i wanted to talk about on the program if i may i'd like to

[2:08] introduce the topic

[2:10] in my own

[2:12] inevitable way if i could

[2:16] okay well

[2:17] with your kind permission i'll begin he's like a vampire you gotta invite him in dan

[2:22] i'll begin

[2:23] with a little

[2:24] excerpt

[2:26] a beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care

[2:29] that the balances are correct

[2:31] this every sister of the bene gesserit knows

[2:35] to begin your study of the life of maudeve then

[2:37] take care that you first place him in his time

[2:40] born in the fifty seventh year of the padishah emperor shaddam the fourth

[2:45] and take the most special care

[2:47] that you locate maudeve in his place

[2:49] the planet

[2:50] arrakis

[2:52] do not be deceived by the fact that he was born on caledon

[2:55] and lived his first fifteen years there

[2:58] arrakis

[2:59] the planet known as

[3:00] dune

[3:02] is forever

[3:03] his place and that's from the manual of maudeve by the princess

[3:06] rulan

[3:07] uh... i see why tom showed up dan uh... the uh... tom's a big dune head right

[3:13] you could say that uh...

[3:15] that particular novel by frank herbert has been a little bit of a life manual

[3:19] for me as anyone who

[3:20] watch me for years on nbc nightly news would no for a fact that

[3:26] now i'm here because as you guys

[3:28] no already that true the trailer for the new dune film

[3:32] was just released and i have a few

[3:35] the thoughts about it

[3:36] uh... okay

[3:37] uh... i guess i guess you might as well minus should i pull up the trailer

[3:40] myself or

[3:41] will you just paid enough of a picture that i don't need it in front of me

[3:45] it really depends more on the power of your imagination

[3:51] the trailer begins

[3:53] as all great dunes do

[3:55] with the warner brothers logo and the legendary films logo

[3:59] looking very shiny

[4:01] not at all what you'd expect on the dusty gritty surface of the planet

[4:05] arrakis

[4:08] we get to our hero

[4:09] paul atreides

[4:11] played here by

[4:12] two million dollar

[4:13] now he's saying that i think i

[4:15] uh... i mean uh... well i'm not even address the problems you had with

[4:19] uh... pronouncing his last name but i believe it is timothee

[4:24] timothy

[4:25] wait really

[4:26] today he

[4:27] ideas

[4:28] mere vessel for bringing us the story of paul atreides i don't really care

[4:33] about how his name is pronounced

[4:36] timothy jollover will continue to be

[4:40] paul atreides

[4:41] as you know the heir to the house atreides one of the major

[4:46] mercenary mercantile

[4:48] houses of the galactic empire

[4:50] he says something is going on with his mind

[4:53] that he can't control

[4:55] we hear this as he kisses

[4:57] chani

[4:58] played by zendaya who you may know as

[5:00] michi

[5:01] who we know is one of the crimen

[5:04] i know zendaya is michi but i didn't know that you would know

[5:09] her as michi that seems uh... you know out of your purview a little bit uh...

[5:13] i took my

[5:14] grandchildren

[5:15] to see that movie

[5:17] and frankly i only know zendaya as michi

[5:20] i don't know

[5:21] what else she is for a while i thought

[5:23] michi was the actress and zendaya was the character and so

[5:27] i think only seen her now as

[5:29] that's what the director said about her performance too

[5:34] uh... we see her she is of course the daughter of the imperial planetologist

[5:38] assigned to dune

[5:39] late canes

[5:40] uh... who i do not believe appears in the trailer anyway we see paul waking up

[5:46] there's a crusade coming

[5:48] he and or rather two silhouetted figures that i assume can only be paul and

[5:53] chani or paul and lady jessica his mother

[5:56] look at fire and fighting on

[5:58] the desert plain and now

[6:00] is when we get past the preamble and into the real

[6:03] meet of the story of paul atreides as he meets with jessica

[6:08] would you say that this uh...

[6:10] trailer uh... is good at sort of introducing the story of dune to those

[6:16] who may not already be familiar with it or is it just sort of

[6:19] a series of of images more so than

[6:23] a uh... plot-heavy trailer

[6:25] because you say we're getting into the story of dune that we all know

[6:29] and uh...

[6:30] i've read dune

[6:32] once and i saw the the david lynch movie as a very young man

[6:36] and i still uh... couldn't tell you much about the story of dune

[6:40] well like many movie trailers it starts out with a kind of

[6:43] foreboding ominous thing then you get a little bit of the characters and then

[6:48] you get

[6:48] and you think the trailer's over and then there's one last kind of special

[6:52] effects

[6:53] heavy moment

[6:54] and then the title

[6:55] i don't really know that you can

[6:57] summarize all of

[6:59] majesty of dune

[7:01] a three-minute

[7:02] fifty seven or so

[7:04] story like this now but to be honest

[7:07] i've spent so many years of my life now living

[7:10] in iraq is in my headspace and i wouldn't be able to tell you how it do

[7:14] and newbie

[7:16] would take this kind of trailer

[7:18] and so if tom tom would you say that living in iraq like a fremen trying to

[7:22] teach uh... like a newborn baby how to survive on the dusty plains of dune the

[7:28] planet iraqis

[7:29] well you mentioned fremen it's it's a

[7:32] at a certain point you forget that you're in the still suit if you

[7:34] understand what i mean uh... it just becomes

[7:37] like onto

[7:38] a second

[7:39] layer of skin and that's what dune is to me at

[7:42] this point in my life daniel did you have a question about dune or about my

[7:46] many years and uh... national broadcasting well i mean they kind of

[7:51] they're kind of tied together actually tom i was gonna ask

[7:54] you said that you uh... spent so many years living in iraq is in your mind

[7:58] uh... was that

[7:58] as a way of coping with the horrors that you had to report nightly on the nightly

[8:03] news

[8:05] no it was merely because frank herbert has spun such an

[8:08] enthralling tale in such a fully realized world

[8:12] from the first moments from the first time that i

[8:15] read dune honestly having picked it up

[8:18] somewhat randomly in an airport bookstore intrigued by the cover

[8:22] showing a desert type landscape and i thought to myself

[8:26] i would be so thirsty if i was walking along that i wonder what happens there

[8:32] and just being enthralled

[8:34] uh... to be honest

[8:36] it was it had not if anything

[8:38] the national news is what saved me from losing myself

[8:41] in dune

[8:42] now if i can

[8:44] uh... continue it was only by

[8:46] telling america

[8:47] my supreme honor of telling america for thirty minutes what was important enough

[8:52] for me to talk about

[8:53] i was able to anchor myself in this reality and not lose myself the way

[8:58] spice addict would

[9:00] to the uh... enumerable

[9:02] visions of an ever unfolding

[9:05] galaxy

[9:06] okay so the news was sort of your

[9:08] inception sort of top

[9:10] that uh... allowed you to re-enter the real world

[9:14] uh... i think that

[9:15] much like the movie inception that is a thin metaphor overlaying not much

[9:21] but i suppose yes you could say that

[9:24] now here's where we get to the real meat of the story as

[9:28] paul meets with a bene gesserit mother reverend mother gaius helen moyham

[9:33] played here by a charlotte rowan and uh... she is of course asking him

[9:37] questions about the visions he receives

[9:40] this is interrupted by the name of

[9:42] the director a frenchman denise villeneuve who is of course the director of movies like

[9:47] arrival and sicario so you know

[9:51] you know uh... tom it's interesting to say that i think that you probably pronounce

[9:54] that director's last name as well as uh... elliot might if

[9:58] he were here

[10:00] We can only imagine, since he, as mentioned before, is dealing with a medical malady of a particularly sensitive nature.

[10:09] We see a storm over Arrakis. This shot seems to be more a filler, to be honest, and perhaps an example of special effects,

[10:17] but they're just building suspense for one of the key iconic moments in the Dune story,

[10:23] when Paul, of course, takes the test of the Gom Javar, and has to see if his human awareness can overcome his animal instinct

[10:33] to pull his hand from a box full of pain. If he withstands the pain, then he understands that death is worse than pain,

[10:41] and that all fear can be overcome. But if his animal instincts overcome his rationality and his human awareness,

[10:49] then of course he cannot take part in his fated role in the Bene Gesserit breeding plan to bring about the enlightenment of humanity

[10:56] in the role of the Kwisatz Haderach, who has access to the visions of the Golden Path.

[11:02] Not much of that is explained in the trailer, but you do find out that he sticks his hand in a very painful box.

[11:09] Hey Dan, do you think I would succeed in the test of the Gom Javar?

[11:14] Uh, oh boy. Yeah, I think you are the most likely to... well, I think I'm the least likely to succeed.

[11:23] Yeah, you'd get smoked, dude.

[11:25] I have to... Dan, just as a listener of the podcast, I assume you would tap out before actually taking the test.

[11:32] They would explain to you that a poison-tipped needle would be held to your neck while your hand was put in a box,

[11:39] and that alone would be enough for you to say, you know what, I'm tired and I don't need to have any of this in my life.

[11:45] And you'd probably go and watch an 80s horror or a bikini movie that you'd already seen a few times.

[11:52] That all seems accurate. Is that an option? Can you just say, you know what, no thanks.

[12:01] Because it seems like that would be a pretty good one.

[12:06] It would end the book pretty quickly.

[12:09] Do you think bikinis exist in the world of Dune? Because everybody seems to just wear, like, black leather.

[12:16] I think in the universe of Dune, perhaps, but on the world of Arrakis, very unlikely.

[12:22] To expose so much of your skin to the harsh desert sun and the flying grit from the constant sandstorms

[12:28] would leave you with burns and abrasions, not to mention how much moisture you would lose from having such little covering in such a hostile climate.

[12:38] Now, speaking of that hostile climate, we now see a landscape of Arrakis,

[12:43] followed by a shot of Paul walking along a beach somewhere, I'm guessing Caledon,

[12:47] because I don't remember a lot of oceans on Arrakis.

[12:53] We quickly get a moment of Paul training in the use of his energy armor and fighting knife

[12:59] with his weapons master, Gurney Halleck, played here by Josh Brola.

[13:05] Now, Josh Brola has...

[13:08] Sorry? Josh who? Josh?

[13:10] Brola. Ja Brola. You may remember him as Tano from the Avenger movie.

[13:16] Okay, sure.

[13:19] When he took possession of the Infinity Gauntlet and was able to eliminate half the universe's population,

[13:28] a scope only matched by the thousands of years of timeline in the Frank Herbert Dune saga.

[13:35] Now, there is a voiceover stating that Paul has learned to rule himself, but he must now learn to rule others,

[13:42] a premonition both of his role as heir to the Atreides house, as the son of Duke Leto, who we shall see is played by Oscar Isaac,

[13:49] and also his clear role as...

[13:51] Wow, nailed that name in one.

[13:53] Because his name is, to be honest, very easy to say.

[13:57] And his role as the Kwisatz Haderach, who will bring across a jihad throughout the universe,

[14:04] causing the death of billions. I assume they will save that for the second movie.

[14:09] Now, Duke Leto, as we know, played by Oscar Isaac,

[14:13] I got it the first time and for some reason could not stick the landing, the second pronunciation.

[14:18] He's at a tomb of some kind. We're told by a voiceover he rules a planet, but he's going to lose it.

[14:24] A quick shot of, I assume, Lady Jessica, Duke Leto's wife and Phil's mother,

[14:30] who of course betrayed the Bene Gesserit plan by not having a daughter and having a son,

[14:36] because, as any Dune head knows, the Bene Gesserit can control the gender of their unborn children.

[14:42] Now, off to the plains of Dune, where they are disembarking from some kind of huge tank or something.

[14:49] It looks a little bit like a Jawa sandcrawler, but bigger and less featureful.

[14:54] Nonsense. Stuart explained Warhammer to me.

[14:59] Have I been lost in a thicket of just letter soup?

[15:05] Don't worry, because it's about to get a lot simpler and more complicated,

[15:10] because Duke Leto and his family will be greeted by a hearty companion.

[15:14] That's, of course, Duncan Idaho, the other weapons master and fighter.

[15:19] Hold on, wait, wait, hold on, wait.

[15:22] Duncan Idaho, yeah.

[15:24] A character in Dune whose last name is Idaho, which is the name of a state in the United States on Earth.

[15:34] Remember, Dan, this is set in the far future. Idaho is still a story land, known throughout for its potatoes,

[15:41] the, some would say, life-giving essence, second only to the spice in its importance to the galactic economy.

[15:48] Idaho, of course, taking an El Dorado-type position in the Dune-iverse.

[15:53] He is, of course, played by Jason Momoa, who is best known as, at this point I assume, Aquaman from the DC movies.

[16:03] Now, here's a brief shot of, so brief I had to watch it again to tell that it was, of course, Stilgar,

[16:09] leader of the Fremen tribe at Siege Tabor, played here by Javier Bardem,

[16:14] the villain from the James Bond movie where he's the bad guy in it.

[16:19] That one, okay.

[16:23] We hear from someone that Arrakis is a death trap over massed armies.

[16:28] Perhaps these armies are at the command of the next person we see, Beast Rabbon,

[16:32] Count of Lancavel, and eldest nephew of the Baron Harkonnen.

[16:36] He is played by Dave Badera.

[16:38] And, of course, the Fremen people of Arrakis, as you, I'm sure, know him as Mudir Nahia,

[16:45] which translates roughly as demon ruler.

[16:47] Now, of course, we only see him for but a moment before we are introduced to his boss and uncle,

[16:53] the Baron Vladimir Harkonnen, who is looking very foggy and is played by Stalin Skarsgård.

[17:00] Now, there's a lot of fire and bad things.

[17:03] Jessica looks very concerned, but we've got more characters to meet in this trailer.

[17:07] For instance, Dr. Wellington Yule, played by Chang Chen, who, as we all know,

[17:12] will go on to betray the Atreides family, kind of.

[17:16] Now, I assume he is a distinct descendant of one Stuart Wellington.

[17:21] Since, again, this takes place in the far future.

[17:24] We see some armored bad dudes, real bad-ass fighter types.

[17:28] I assume these are the...

[17:29] Uh-huh, they got to save the president.

[17:31] Video game bad dudes?

[17:32] No, they are, in fact, probably, I'm guessing, the Sardaukar,

[17:35] the fanatically elite fighting force of the emperor.

[17:38] Then we get a shot of Paul walking purposely toward the camera.

[17:42] Duncan Idaho, again played by Jason MaMa,

[17:46] says, let's fight like demons, and then starts fighting people in armor as they run at him.

[17:51] Back to the reverend mother of the Bene Gesserit,

[17:54] as she says, an animal caught in a trap will gnaw off its own leg.

[17:58] What will you do?

[18:00] There's a shot of Chani standing outside.

[18:02] We see Paul in his steel suit, Chani in her steel suit.

[18:05] Spaceships, explosions.

[18:07] At this part, to be honest, it just looks like a bigger budget version of the David Lynch dune,

[18:12] but without the score by Toto.

[18:15] There's Baron Harkonnen, I assume, emerging from a sort of apocalypse, now mud bath.

[18:20] And here is where we get to the portion of the trailer I call the walking purposefully towards the camera.

[18:25] Lady Jessica walks purposefully towards the camera.

[18:28] Uh-huh, played by Rebecca Ferguson.

[18:29] Played by Rebecca Ferguson.

[18:31] Duncan Idaho salutes with a blade.

[18:33] Paul salutes with a blade.

[18:35] Paul watches from his airship as a sandpit swallows a kind of sandcrawler.

[18:40] Dr. Wellington Yu walks purposefully toward the camera.

[18:43] There's a Fremen lady, a dragonfly helicopter.

[18:46] Then Robin Harkonnen, the beast, walks purposefully towards the camera.

[18:50] Duke Leto looks kind of sad.

[18:52] And Paul says, I see you.

[18:54] I don't think he's referring to the shot from before.

[18:58] That's kind of a Kuleshov experiment in juxtaposition.

[19:01] Uh-huh.

[19:02] We'll have to see the final version.

[19:03] Another quick shot of Stilgar.

[19:05] I assume Javier Bardem was not a big enough star to get his face in the trailer that much.

[19:11] Then there's some text that says, beyond fear, Duncan Idaho walks purposefully towards the camera.

[19:17] Then destiny awaits.

[19:19] Zendaya's hair in slow-mo.

[19:21] Paul yells in slow-mo.

[19:23] And now Paul launches into a shortened version of the litany against fear,

[19:29] which in the original book goes like this.

[19:32] I must not fear.

[19:35] Fear is the mind killer.

[19:38] Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.

[19:42] I will face my fear.

[19:44] I will permit it to pass over me and through me.

[19:48] And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path.

[19:52] Where the fear has gone, there will be nothing.

[19:54] Only I will remain.

[19:56] I, of course, recited this before every episode.

[20:00] of NBC Nightly News for my 22 years of hosting that storied program.

[20:07] It was a little wink at dune as if to say to the planet Arrakis,

[20:11] I'll be back to you in a half hour when I'm done dealing with this small,

[20:16] blue, pitiful planet of the distant past that we call Earth.

[20:20] Then there's some flying machines.

[20:22] We're almost done with the trailer, Daniel.

[20:25] Earth might have problems, but it's not built on an intergalactic drug trade.

[20:31] Now who's being naive, Daniel?

[20:34] It's called oil.

[20:36] It's not that hard to look at the metaphors.

[20:39] They're rich and thick like a good gumbo,

[20:42] not unlike the exact opposite of Inception,

[20:46] which is sort of a killer's mask, a sociopath's public face,

[20:51] behind which lies nothing.

[20:53] Now someone dips their hand in sand,

[20:56] Duncan Idaho kneels and calls Paul the Duke.

[20:59] Paul walks in slow-mo, purposefully towards the camera,

[21:02] and you think the trailer is almost over when you're thinking to yourself,

[21:06] how have I not seen a sandworm?

[21:10] It's perhaps the most notable thing about Arrakis,

[21:13] is these giant freaking worms that the Fremen ride and worship as the makers.

[21:19] And suddenly the ground erupts and people run away.

[21:22] It's a sandworm, not looking unlike, say, a sarlacc that has been pulled inside out,

[21:28] like a prolapsed colon, if you will, of a sarlacc.

[21:31] Looks like a butt.

[21:32] We get the title, Dune.

[21:35] End of trailer.

[21:37] And much of this trailer is also scored to a cover of Eclipse by Pink Floyd.

[21:44] Now how do you feel about that, Tom?

[21:47] What are your Pink Floyd feelings?

[21:50] To be honest, if I had known, I think I would have been fine with it,

[21:54] but I was so in the world of Arrakis that I was actually humming the soundtrack

[22:00] I had composed to the book when I read it.

[22:03] And it goes something like,

[22:06] bah bah bah bah, bah bah bah dah.

[22:08] Bah bah bah bah, bah bah bah bah dah.

[22:12] Bah bah bah, bah bah bah.

[22:13] Dune Arrakis, du-du-duh, dune Arrakis.

[22:18] It's got a very Thomas Dalby feel when the lyrics kick in.

[22:21] It certainly did at the end.

[22:22] It's a melodeon to Danny Elfman in there.

[22:24] It started kind of like the Price Is Right theme.

[22:27] And then it got, yeah, it got a little more Thomas Dalby.

[22:31] There was a period when outside of hosting the Nightly News,

[22:35] I was only reading Dune and watching the Price Is Right.

[22:38] It was a low point in my life when I really lost track of who I was as a person and also reality.

[22:45] And, of course, a series of hypnotic suggestions had to be planted by the world's most noted hypnotherapists

[22:52] in order to snap me out of that fugue state for the 30 minutes it took to tape NBC Nightly News.

[22:58] I would repeat the words phonetically as they were read into my ear,

[23:02] because at that point I had lost the ability to speak American English,

[23:06] and I only spoke the languages of Frank Herbert.

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[24:43] Well, you know, now that we've gone through the trailer,

[24:48] I know you've got more to say, Tom,

[24:50] but I feel like it's a good time to take a little break

[24:53] to thank our sponsor for this episode, Stitch Fix,

[24:57] who I'm sure is happy that they bought an ad on our most accessible episode,

[25:03] like one that makes a lot of sense to everyone

[25:05] and isn't built on sort of a long-running in-joke.

[25:11] But Stitch Fricks, hey, wouldn't it be great if every...

[25:15] I think they probably would appreciate it more

[25:17] if you pronounce the name of the company correctly,

[25:20] since I don't believe that Fricks, F-R-I-X, is a word.

[25:25] Stitch Fix.

[25:27] No, but you're right, Dan. I'm the one who's at fault here.

[25:31] People should go to Stitch Fricks' website and use their fine product,

[25:37] or perhaps Stitch Fix, who bought time on the program.

[25:41] Continue, Dan.

[25:43] All right, well, Sticks...

[25:46] Again, Sticks? I don't know how that was going to end,

[25:49] but Sticks Fix and Sticks Bitch are also, again...

[25:53] At this point, I think he's just fucking with us, Tom.

[25:56] It's interesting that I didn't know how to pronounce Timothee Chalamet's name,

[26:00] and I was made the butt of ridicule,

[26:03] and yet you have trouble with Stitch Fix.

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[27:17] I'll say it one more time because they highlighted it,

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[27:25] Nailed it. Wow. Okay.

[27:28] That's what we in the business in broadcasting call a done in one.

[27:32] Yeah.

[27:34] So now we've gone over the trailer.

[27:36] Yes, and thank you for asking.

[27:38] I do have some broad thoughts to relay about the trailer

[27:42] and this new vision that Denis Villeneuve has for Frank Herbert's masterpiece.

[27:48] Can this be a new reoccurring segment called Broad Thoughts?

[27:51] Sure, or if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[27:55] Okay.

[27:58] So in this episode of if it ain't broke, don't fix it,

[28:02] we'll get to the trailer of Dune, and we're also brought to you by Stitch Fix.

[28:08] Sometimes stitches do need fixing, and that's what Stitch Fix is all about.

[28:13] Okay, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[28:17] So are you asking us to fix you, John Brokaw?

[28:20] This is a cry for help.

[28:21] I think this whole episode has clearly been a cry for help in many different ways,

[28:26] and if you didn't catch on to it until now, that's your problem.

[28:31] Now, something that I find, first I'll go with, I'll make a classic shit sandwich

[28:36] where I will start with a compliment.

[28:38] I will then have a criticism, and then I will have a compliment.

[28:42] And so there's a lot of walking.

[28:45] Take the sting out.

[28:47] Here's my first compliment.

[28:49] I love the walking purposefully towards the camera.

[28:52] This is a world of people with strong purposes, and they've got to walk places,

[28:56] and that camera is in their way.

[28:58] So I can't wait to see what happens when they reach the camera with that purposeful walking.

[29:03] Also, it's excitingly beige.

[29:05] It is a limited color palette on the planet of Arrakis,

[29:09] and they have steered into the curve of that.

[29:12] Now, off of the compliments, on to the major criticism,

[29:15] something I was screaming out loud while watching the trailer

[29:18] when it dropped a scant few days ago.

[29:21] Where is Feyd-Rauther-Raven, the other nephew of Baron Harkonnen?

[29:27] Some would say the better nephew, the handsome, cunning, and vain nephew

[29:33] that the Baron is choosing to make his heir,

[29:35] and who figures quite heavily into the climactic fight between him and Paul Atreides.

[29:41] Now, Daniel, you may remember this character as the one played by Sting in the David Lynch version.

[29:46] I do remember.

[29:48] He says, I will kill him!

[29:51] Yes, as mentioned, he says, I will kill him.

[29:56] That is his famous line.

[29:58] Do you want to know what the top three are?

[30:00] is I recall from the David Lynch version yeah sure drop them on me number one

[30:06] shirtless sting yeah number two in his little in his tiny space underpants

[30:12] yeah number two I think it's I think it's Harkonnen with all the boils on

[30:18] his face yeah that's the Baron Vladimir I remember that and of course the big

[30:24] like like brain looking thing and the third stage navigator yeah the one who

[30:30] looks kind of like a cross between a fetus a turtle and a scrotum but

[30:34] enormous floating in a tank of some kind of amber sort of liquid that's what

[30:40] happens when you take too much of the spice from Arrakis these it's not

[30:46] related to the gum Jabbar so those are two choices Dan you can either put

[30:50] yourself through the pain test or you can be that guy what's it going to be I

[30:56] think we know which one Dan would pick I mean seems like he's having a pretty

[31:01] good time it's just like he's just like floating in a tank that's like it is the

[31:08] closest that anyone in doing gets to kicking back so I understand your choice

[31:13] also not seen in the trailer is a Peter DeVries the evil Mentat but you know I'm

[31:19] sure he's gonna pop up yeah and now so my rage at not seeing fade Ratha some

[31:27] would say the most intriguing non Paul character in the book was a

[31:33] disappointment but however and here is a final compliment it was exciting to see

[31:38] Charlotte rambling in the role of Bene Gesserit Reverend Mother guys Helen

[31:44] Mariam it reminded me of in some ways maybe an older version of her character

[31:50] of Consuela from the movie Zardoz a similar film in some ways and perhaps

[31:57] one that I will draw connections to when I'm watching Wow that's a pretty

[32:04] exhaustive summary of this trailer so Dan how excited would you be if you were

[32:17] just hanging out on like a sandy beach or a desert or something and a giant

[32:22] worm popped out of the ground and it had a giant gaping butthole for a head it is

[32:27] a real anus of a face for this worm I gotta say sandworm wise this is my third

[32:33] favorite that's the face of God you're talking about this is the third favorite

[32:37] sandworm I've seen after the Beatles use sandworm and the original David Lynch

[32:45] sandworm mm-hmm any other sandworms kind of fall by the wayside for you I mean

[32:52] who didn't make it into the top three Dan well why are the gravel it's not in

[32:56] there there's a worm I saw in the sand when I went to the beach as like a

[33:02] two-year-old when I visited California for the first time oh man you know we've

[33:09] had a lot of fun here tonight not Tom Brokaw me yep that's the only three

[33:18] people who are here you me and Tom Brokaw and no one else well Tom thanks

[33:26] for coming out I'm sure you probably have something really important to do

[33:30] later it's where are you in New York or LA right now well you could say that

[33:36] mentally there's only one place I ever am no matter where my physical body is

[33:41] New York or LA that's Arrakis physically of course I'm on my compound in

[33:48] Bozeman Montana as I ride out what I think is the first stages of the

[33:52] apocalypse and I continue through the middle and final stages as they lead

[33:57] inevitably to the future foreseen by the quiz hats had a rack oh that's

[34:02] great so normally whenever we have a guest on we ask if they have anything

[34:06] they want to plug you anything you want to plug Tom oh just the novel June by

[34:11] Frank Herbert I didn't write it myself but at this point it's hard for me to

[34:17] tell where I begin and June ends we have become so much one mind and one body not

[34:24] so much the sequels to Dune which trail off quite a bit but the original novel

[34:30] yes very much so I mean I've been watching your Instagram account Tom and

[34:34] I keep seeing you posing wrapped up in a sleeping bag like you're the sandworm on

[34:39] the cover of God Emperor of Dune is that intentional is that little Easter egg

[34:43] for the doonads I'm glad that you got that reference to her that was a very

[34:48] much how I intended it in fact I've been doing a series of photos only some of

[34:53] which I've shared with the public in which I reenact scenes and iconic images

[34:58] from doing playing all of the characters myself and occasionally I put on silly

[35:03] clothes and pretend to be the dogs from William Wegman's photography you know

[35:08] where there's the two dogs that were human clothes but those photos just come

[35:12] out as me wearing human clothes which doesn't have quite the effect of a dog

[35:17] wearing a human trench coat and a hat to make it clear I had to put a sign

[35:25] around my neck that says imagine I am a dog right now and what I'm it's at a

[35:31] certain point the concept becomes slightly muddy and you and you and you

[35:35] hired Bobby Moynihan to stand in the background of every picture dressed up

[35:39] like a dog catcher not every kind of picture but many of them yes just help

[35:45] drive home the point just help to drive home the point that I am a dog and also

[35:49] to have a little bit of fun Bobby is out here on the ranch with me and Bozeman

[35:53] and together we will begin a new civilization when the current one falls

[35:59] what'll it be based around the teachings of the princess Irulan in the book Dune

[36:05] well I think you can probably guess the answer to that well I'd like to thank

[36:11] you for being here so I guess you're plugging your Instagram and one last

[36:16] question before yeah yeah my my my Instagram if it ain't broke off Dune fix

[36:21] it that's the whole that's the whole handle very confusing before you go I

[36:33] did want to ask you know if there's one character name that from the book that

[36:40] you didn't get to say that you just would like to throw in here at the very

[36:45] end this would be the time but if there's nothing don't feel pressured by

[36:54] me the Tom Brokaw Dune fanboy I mean it doesn't no one in the characters but if

[37:01] you'd like to me to go over the cast of a film again of course that's Dune

[37:05] coming out this year starring Timothee Chalamet and of course there's Dave

[37:11] Bautista, Stellan Skarsgård, Charlotte Rampling, Oscar Isaac, Zendaya, Javier Bardra, Josh Brouwer,

[37:21] Jennifer Vola and Chan Chan and of course so that's the cast of the film

[37:29] Dune it was of course directed by Dennis Villeneuve and the screenplay is by

[37:34] Dennis Villeneuve, Eric Roth, and John Sprague. The music is by Hans Zimmer with

[37:40] same guitar riff by Chris Ross and it is by Joe Weiss and the production company is

[37:44] Led Zeppelin, Warner Bros. Releases. It will come out in December. It is

[37:48] produced by Joe Carasola, Mary Parrott, Dennis Villeneuve, and of course the make-up and costumes are by Maximum Fun.org

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FH Mini 15 - Tom Brokaw's Dune

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