FH Mini 26 - Oscar Noms

[0:00] hey everybody and welcome to the flop house that's right it's time for another

[0:08] flop house miniature or as we say flop house mini brought to you by whoa whoa stop throwing

[0:15] so much jargon at me buddy oh sorry about that let's uh let's introduce ourselves before i get

[0:21] into too much more uh biz terms because we will get into biz terms my name is elliot kalin and

[0:26] tonight i'll be at the driver's wheel and with me are these two fellows say your names guys

[0:32] i'm dan mccoy and i'm stewart wellington yep dan mccoy and stewart dwellington

[0:40] has there ever been a superhero named uh layman or layman uh i don't know what would his power be

[0:49] Maybe like the Lay's Potato Company.

[0:52] Maybe he's a big fan of the movies of Mike Lay or Mike Lee.

[0:56] He doesn't know how to pronounce it.

[0:58] That's his power.

[0:59] You can say it both ways.

[1:01] It's a movie podcast, right?

[1:03] Yeah.

[1:03] Thanks for bringing us home.

[1:05] So normally this is a movie podcast where we watch a bad movie and then we talk about it.

[1:16] We don't watch the bad movie during the podcast, but beforehand, and you're just there for the talking about.

[1:20] But it's a mini episode, which means we can do whatever the F we want.

[1:25] And that F stands for famous, because that's right, guys.

[1:31] Earlier this week, the Oscar nominations came out.

[1:34] Okay, I'll allow that segue.

[1:37] It's Hollywood's biggest honor.

[1:41] that's first before I get into our

[1:43] let's call it a game

[1:45] although it's really more of a concept

[1:47] that will annoy you. Before we get into that

[1:49] Do you want to play a little concept?

[1:51] You play a good concept

[1:55] boy. The only way to win

[1:57] is not to play.

[1:58] First I want to give a little

[2:02] Flophouse shout out to

[2:05] two former co-workers of Dan

[2:07] and myself who were nominated

[2:09] for academy awards just this past week that's right one jenna friedman was nominated as one

[2:15] of the writers for best adapted screenplay for borat subsequent movie film and another former

[2:19] co-worker of ours trayvon free was nominated for the live action short two distant strangers so

[2:26] former daily show co-workers really making it happen dan how many major industry awards were

[2:31] you nominated for this year drop drop drop drop what sorry sometimes sometimes i drop names

[2:36] nobody's heard of but our other co-workers dan how many major industry awards were you

[2:40] nominated for this year because my answer is zero for me i was nominated for an emmy the past year

[2:44] i mean not this i mean 2021 dan 2021 oh wow what i mean like whatever whenever the past

[2:51] emmy was the last one i wasn't nominated this year no but that's not the answer is also zero

[2:56] so that's zero for both of us so stewart and how many how many industry awards in your industry

[3:02] were you nominated for uh i just i just got nominated for a grammy oh wow for best grandma

[3:09] for best grandma that was the thing nobody everybody counted me out but you know what

[3:16] i was still nominated yeah that's as long as i could shove it in the face of my haters that's

[3:21] all i care about i mean i still hate her particularly i still want to see you know

[3:26] like evidence that you have uh first of all a child uh and then secondly a grandchild but uh

[3:32] wow you're just you're just naming things that you think would hold me back from

[3:36] from taking the title i know but you know what when i got my eyes on that bag

[3:40] now it turns out all you really need to be nominated for that grammy is just the mug that

[3:47] says world's greatest grandma just a picture of you holding it yeah anyway the oscar nominations

[3:53] The Oscars are going to be Hollywood's glamorous-est night, possibly.

[3:57] It's one of the few awards that people care about because, let me tell you, my Writers Guild Awards are not burning up.

[4:05] I can't get a table in a restaurant with them even before the pandemic.

[4:08] But here's the thing.

[4:10] In the entertainment biz, we don't have time to say whole words.

[4:13] That's why we say biz instead of business and why we say TV instead of Capitalist Inequality Distractor Unit.

[4:19] So we also say noms instead of nominations.

[4:23] So this week the Oscar noms came out, and that's why I'm starting a new annual tradition that I'm calling Flophouse Presents Oscar Nom Noms,

[4:31] where we figuratively chew over the Oscar nominations while also talking about what we would literally chew over if the Oscar-nominated movies were food.

[4:39] So, Dan and Stu, let's talk about first any general thoughts about this year's Oscar noms, and then what would you eat as Oscar nom noms?

[4:47] And they have to be tied to the movie.

[4:49] I can give you some suggestions or examples.

[4:52] Oh, okay.

[4:53] See, before we get too far, I was wondering whether you were going to suggest that we call this the Sylvester Stallone Farce Spectacular.

[5:03] Just because last year we faked people out with our Oscar episode.

[5:08] And a lot of people were very angry.

[5:12] They actually wanted us to talk about the Oscars instead.

[5:15] They wanted us to talk about these awards that everyone pretty much agrees are crazy in different ways, whether you think that they're not accurate, whether you think it's a strange idea to pit creative expressions against each other in a form of competition, or whether you're just envious that you didn't get one.

[5:34] And meanwhile, Inoratus got two back-to-back.

[5:39] So, I mean, whether it's so people wanted to hear us talk about that, but instead they got the conversation about the Sylvester Stallone box office.

[5:47] Let's say disappointment. Oscar, his attempt at a screwball comedy set in the 30s, was it?

[5:53] So this year, I mean, it's such a natural fit for Slice Ballone.

[5:57] I mean, he does have he does a great line in it where he goes, yeah, reading is my passion.

[6:03] Yeah, I mean, it's just tough because people went and saw it and they were hoping for Johnny Dangerously 2 and they didn't get it.

[6:10] Yeah, that's true. That's true.

[6:12] So, guys, I'll start you off. Why don't I start this?

[6:15] I recently just finished watching one of the Oscar Best Picture nominees, The Trial of the Chicago 7, which I found to be, to me, it's kind of the king speech of this year.

[6:25] It's kind of the movie where you're like, all right, okay, yeah.

[6:28] I guess that's like a textbook definition of like a movie that I guess my dad would watch and be like really – it would make a big impression on him.

[6:36] And while I'm watching it, I think maybe I'll dip into this trial of the Chicago seven-layer dip.

[6:41] The secret is there's actually eight layers, but one of them disappears halfway through while you're eating it.

[6:47] It just disappears because it's not really that important to the plot it turns out.

[6:50] Okay, okay.

[6:51] So that's The Trial of the Chicago Seven-Layer Dip.

[6:54] Or, for instance, another surprise nominee for Best Picture, Promising Young Woman, a very controversial movie.

[7:03] And while I'm watching it, I guess I'm snacking down on some promising young cumin.

[7:06] I don't know what it is, but it's full of cumin, and it leaves kind of a bitter aftertaste in your mouth.

[7:11] So it's specific—I mean, all right, specifically young cumin.

[7:18] Dan, I'm not a Cuban ageist, but if you want to be for the title, it has to be promising

[7:23] Cuban.

[7:23] It has to be Cuban with potential.

[7:25] You know, can't just be your bottom feeder Cuban or Cuban, not Cuban.

[7:28] Actually, I should have made it promising I'm Cuban and it's a sandwich.

[7:32] I love Cuban sandwiches.

[7:34] That would have been better, but it's too late.

[7:36] You already said the first one.

[7:38] That's too late.

[7:39] Wait, can I use Dr. Doom's time machine to go back and erase the first one?

[7:43] Dan, can I do that?

[7:44] Yeah, Dan, can you use Dr. Doom's time machine to erase the first one?

[7:48] can he i would say uh probably not oh wow okay i mean not even a definite answer no no i mean he

[7:56] may he may use it i i will allow it but i don't think that he can as a point of actual like a

[8:04] thing that could happen in this reality okay so guys what before i go back to some more of my

[8:10] best picture dishes uh what did anyone have do you have any thoughts any uh positive surprises

[8:14] i know stewart you there was a particular acting nomination that you were very excited about that

[8:18] you were texting me about i was very excited uh for paul racy being nominated is that how you

[8:24] pronounce his last name i don't know probably or reiki he invented reiki massage so oh no kidding

[8:29] even though it's spelled differently than that but that's okay and predates him yeah yeah he uh

[8:35] was nominated for best supporting actor for sound of metal which uh i think i recommended on the

[8:41] podcast and i think is a good it's a good fun old movie and he has fun and he has a quite like he

[8:49] definitely has a star turn as this uh i guess counselor in a uh for a home to help uh the lead

[8:58] character ruben uh not just uh come to terms with his uh deafness but also kind of uh his other

[9:08] addictive personality you know his bad habits and i think for that i would say i would want to tuck

[9:16] into a mound of oh man fruity pebbles okay pebbles i was expecting you to say mound of melba

[9:28] because let me tell you that guy's hearing is toast

[9:32] insensitive it's an insensitive joke it's very such um it didn't really happen to him dan it's

[9:41] it's a fictional character it's okay character okay i was there were there were for me there

[9:45] were a number of uh positive surprises this year i think uh the people watching most of the movies

[9:50] over streaming as people mentioned and not being able to be wined and dined uh by the studios in

[9:56] person helped some smaller movies come along i was very disappointed to see that delroy lindo

[10:01] was not nominated

[10:02] for Defy Bloods

[10:03] so I thought he was

[10:04] spectacular in that

[10:05] but I was

[10:06] the strangest thing

[10:08] was that

[10:10] a Flophouse movie

[10:11] was nominated

[10:12] which was

[10:13] Hillbilly Elegy

[10:14] for a number of awards

[10:15] when it was nominated

[10:16] for makeup

[10:17] and hairstyling

[10:17] even though it's

[10:18] definitely going to

[10:19] lose to Mank

[10:19] for transforming

[10:21] Gary Oldman

[10:22] into a man

[10:22] in his 30s

[10:23] so seamlessly

[10:24] that it could

[10:25] it could

[10:26] it just couldn't be told

[10:28] it's just going to be seen

[10:29] you know

[10:29] someone yanked

[10:30] Mank

[10:30] hey guys hey guys frank okay this is a this is a section this now this is a section

[10:35] now this this is a this is a section of oscar nom noms that i'm calling mankishevitz

[10:42] where this jewish guy is going to talk about mank for a couple minutes because uh mank so uh the

[10:48] thing with mank is it got more oscar nominations than any other movie this year which you have to

[10:52] assume because it's a movie about hollywood that it's gonna do but it was still surprising to me

[10:57] because I found that movie just not what I expected it to be

[11:01] from what everyone was talking about it.

[11:03] Now, I've talked a lot about Mank on this podcast,

[11:05] mainly my inability to get over the fact that Gary Oldman is playing a young man

[11:08] when he is very clearly an old man.

[11:11] And I don't know, what do you guys think?

[11:14] Has it made you rethink Mank?

[11:15] It's taken, you know, Oscar gold to the Mank Bank, it seems like.

[11:19] I want to say, you know what, here's the thing.

[11:23] The one nomination that I do not argue with, I liked Amanda Seyfried quite a lot in Mank.

[11:30] I thought she hit exactly the right sort of note of this woman who is like an ultimate sort of insider playing the game in that she is like an actress who has married this wealthy man.

[11:47] But she's also like the other character along with Mank who like sort of sees themselves a little bit outside of everything, like pulling a grift on Hollywood and can sort of see the system clearly.

[12:01] And I thought she was pretty good.

[12:03] So I guess my nom nom for Mank is Mank Flank Steak.

[12:10] Yeah, and I, you know.

[12:12] All right.

[12:12] Are you even trying, Dan?

[12:13] Hold on, Stuart.

[12:14] I hate to interrupt Dan.

[12:16] that is that is not bad i mean it's i mean it's not to be honest i don't know to be honest i did

[12:25] well it's manka shevitz because it's a sweet tasting at first and goes down smooth but it's

[12:29] strangely unsatisfying and honestly you're only going to break it out on special occasions

[12:32] oh boy yeah yeah to be fair i also had time earlier today to think about this because i

[12:39] came up with this concept yeah so it's fair this is actually elliot's revenge on me for

[12:44] forgetting to send him the letters questions okay and stew what were you gonna say about mank

[12:50] well we're talking about mank so guys i haven't seen mank but from everything i've heard uh nobody

[12:56] involved with the movie was uh you know pulling a prank they weren't just having a wank and you know

[13:03] i mean the movie is kind of the ultimate wank to be actually to be honest it is kind of a wank

[13:08] but what are you gonna say stew i i i sorry i interrupted yeah i mean other than that i'd say

[13:12] my mind is blank uh look at stew just freestyle as if i just smoked some dank

[13:19] keeps doing it

[13:21] but i mean to me wank is the actually the perfect word to describe it because it is kind of like

[13:30] uh it is kind of like a masturbation movie for a certain type of person yeah i thought it would

[13:35] be mad magazine parody right well the mad magazine parody i don't know if they use the word wank

[13:40] in mad magazine it would be like um it'd be like mensch or something like that you know oh okay

[13:47] again they're gonna or they would want to use manka shavitz i don't know uh now guys there's

[13:52] still a bunch of uh movies that i haven't seen that were nominated this year i did i did recently

[13:57] watch nomadland and i really liked that a lot and i was excited to see the director that nominated

[14:02] uh and also you know one of my one of my favorite actresses frankie mcdormand uh and i think for

[14:09] that one i'd probably have a nomad lanyap just a little extra piece of candy or pastry uh at the

[14:15] end of the movie that you can have in the while you're spending your night the night in your van

[14:19] you know just to keep you warm yeah yeah uh yeah i'm so this this oscar ceremony is going to be

[14:26] all virtual right yes it's going to be hosted by russell crowe's character from virtuosity

[14:31] and co-hosted by the lawnmower man he's like made up of a bunch of serial killer profiles

[14:36] oh that's not good oh boy uh what a dumb movie but so so if it's virtual does francis mcdormand

[14:47] still have to look super annoyed to have to be there she's gonna be sitting at her house looking

[14:52] super annoyed yeah yeah uh it was also it was exciting to see uh maria bakalova nominated for

[15:00] uh borat i thought she was really good oh yeah yeah yeah oh yeah she's great in that and uh of

[15:06] course she's up against olivia coleman though and i haven't seen the father but i will always

[15:10] vote for olivia coleman in anything so i get sorry sorry everybody some coleman's mustard with

[15:17] or what uh i was gonna call it coleman's law yeah yeah it's i you take olivia coleman

[15:25] shred her up add some mayonnaise don't don't she's one of our yeah i remember when uh when

[15:31] hot fuzz screen she's a global treasure i remember when hot fuzz came out you uh rented that you you

[15:37] put up that billboard in hollywood that said olivia coleman for best supporting actress and

[15:41] camped out in front of it right i mean to be fair i put up a billboard when she was in that number

[15:45] wang sketch on uh mitchell and webb that said olivia coleman for best supporting actress and

[15:49] the academy had to explain to me it was not a movie so yeah not even a full show just a segment

[15:56] Just the sketch.

[15:57] But, Dan, does it make you guys feel good that Glenn Close was nominated for a Hillbilly Elegy for her role of Terminator-loving grandma?

[16:05] I mean, I will—

[16:09] Is that going to be the scene, you think?

[16:11] Is that going to be the scene they play for her character?

[16:13] It has to be.

[16:14] When Brad Pitt has to say mama out loud?

[16:17] It's going to be one of the half-dozen scenes where she's yelling at somebody.

[16:20] I mean, I maintain that that is a script and direction problem.

[16:25] I think that, you know, Lynn Close, obviously, a great actor who, if you take any one scene out, you'd be like, oh, looks like she's pretty good in Hillbilly Elegy.

[16:37] Because you don't have to, you don't realize that she's been directed to do every scene at the same level.

[16:41] Yeah, and our nom nom for that will, of course, be a Huckleberry Elegy.

[16:45] That's a huckleberry pie that you serve on a coffin.

[16:49] Now, do you think when Glenn Close agreed to do that movie and she heard the character's name was Mama, she was like, oh, am I playing?

[16:56] Is this like the sequel to the Carl Urban Dread movie where Lena Headey played the character Mama?

[17:03] What do you think, guys?

[17:04] I assumed actually I think she thought it was the movie.

[17:07] It was the film adaptation of Mama's Family, the sitcom, which she loves.

[17:12] She's always wanted to be in it.

[17:13] I mean, it was kind of I mean, I remember seeing it a lot.

[17:17] I don't remember very much about that show.

[17:19] I know Mama had a family,

[17:21] but I might be thinking of the Hogan family.

[17:23] Were they called Hogan on Mama's family?

[17:25] I assumed that she thought she was teaming up

[17:28] with Octavia Spencer,

[17:29] and they were both different Moms working together.

[17:33] Oh, I see.

[17:34] Oh, man.

[17:35] Yeah, yeah.

[17:36] She was playing Yo-Yo Ma's mother in the movie.

[17:40] Oh, right.

[17:41] Yeah, but then it would be called Ma's Ma.

[17:45] Can't argue with that logic, I suppose.

[17:48] It'd be a waste of time for both of us.

[17:51] Of course.

[17:52] Well, the whole episode is pretty much.

[17:53] Now, I haven't seen Judas and the Black Messiah yet.

[17:56] I'm really excited to watch it.

[17:57] But I want to try to watch it all the way through in one sitting, which makes it difficult for me to get to it.

[18:01] And it also went off of HBO Max like a couple days before the Oscars announcement.

[18:07] Yeah, which was foolish.

[18:08] I mean, I have a screener from the Writers Guild.

[18:10] But of course, for that, I am going to cook up a...

[18:14] Elliot's flexing out here.

[18:15] My union membership.

[18:16] But for that, I'm, of course, going to cook up a classic Judas and the Black Shakshuka.

[18:21] That's, of course, tomatoes, onions, peppers, spices, and eggs.

[18:24] It's a classic kind of Middle Eastern dish.

[18:26] I think it will go great with Judas and the Black Messiah.

[18:28] Again, I don't know what it's about.

[18:30] I love Shakshuka, by the way.

[18:32] Shakshuka is great.

[18:33] I mean, I watched about half of Judas and the Black Messiah, and it was a little dry for my taste, unlike this Shakshuka I keep hearing about.

[18:42] Oh, which will be—it's just going to drip out of your mouth.

[18:44] Eggs poached in a nice tomato sauce?

[18:46] What could be less dry than that?

[18:49] But David Clee is incredible in it.

[18:56] I mean, like, I'll watch that dude do anything.

[18:58] Oh, yeah.

[18:59] I mean, I'm really looking forward to seeing the acting in it.

[19:01] Now, of course, every now and then you get a movie that nobody's heard of that gets nominated for a ton of Oscars.

[19:09] What was the movie that was nominated this year where you were like, huh, I don't know that one.

[19:12] That's a movie?

[19:14] The Father, I think, is the one, because I was like, I thought, okay, I am at home.

[19:22] Like, surely most of these are available on streaming, knowing the year that we've had.

[19:27] Like, maybe I'll try and run through them all.

[19:30] So I was extra disappointed to hear now that I missed Judas and the Black Messiah on HBO Max.

[19:35] But The Father, I looked up, I guess it's in theaters.

[19:39] It's not available for streaming.

[19:42] Maybe I'm wrong.

[19:43] It's coronavirus released it to trick old people into leaving their homes.

[19:47] I think just like the hit Al Pacino classic, Sim 1, or Simone, in which he creates a fake actress,

[19:54] I kind of think The Father might not be a real movie.

[19:57] But instead, it was just created for awards.

[20:01] They were like, hey, look, we can win some awards without making a movie.

[20:04] It's coronavirus time.

[20:05] No one's going to go out in the theater to see this.

[20:07] I'm imagining, I'm just imagining someone like photoshopping Anthony Hopkins and Olivia

[20:12] Coleman together and like someone else walking by and be like, great, put it out for the

[20:18] Oscars.

[20:18] Like, this is not actually, this is for my own use, sir.

[20:21] No, no, this is my slash fiction.

[20:22] Well, it's not, you know, it's my Olivia Coleman, Anthony Hopkins, Stan fiction, you know?

[20:27] Yeah.

[20:27] What is this movie?

[20:30] It's a movie about a father.

[20:32] Anthony Hopkins plays a father who's dealing with dementia.

[20:37] That's all I know about it.

[20:38] Well, I mean, I probably could have guessed that from the fact that it was named The Father and nominated for an Oscar.

[20:43] Not to be glib about horrible things, but it's that type of movie.

[20:47] I assumed he was like a priest or something.

[20:49] Yeah, I assumed that he was a priest.

[20:50] That's a good one, too.

[20:51] What if it was called The Father, and it was about a father dealing with dementia, but the father was Darth Vader,

[20:56] and Anthony Hopkins is playing an elderly Darth Vader?

[20:59] Dan, what about that?

[21:01] What about Elliot's bit, Dan?

[21:04] Sorry, do you want me to fund it?

[21:06] No, no, no. Thanks. Thanks for just leaving me with my dick right now here, Dan.

[21:09] I apologize. I got too hung up.

[21:10] Appreciate it.

[21:10] Looking at the father.

[21:12] Oh, man. Elliot's dick's just out.

[21:13] Okay. Now, guys, we all know the big one that everyone's going to be talking about, documentary feature.

[21:20] So I know, Dan, you're a big doc head. You've seen all the documentaries this year.

[21:24] Which one do you think is going to win?

[21:25] I'm going to say My Octopus Teacher because it's the only one I've heard of.

[21:31] Ooh, I think it's going to be time.

[21:33] I think people are not ready yet for a movie about a guy who has sex with an octopus.

[21:37] I have not seen it yet.

[21:38] So I think I don't really know what it's about.

[21:40] Is Time the one that is like a bunch of old sort of home movies?

[21:46] Some of it is.

[21:47] It's the one about the family where the husband is in prison.

[21:51] Yes.

[21:53] I saw that in, like, David Ehrlich's, you know, top ten of the year video essay, which, you know, really beautifully edited.

[22:03] And I'm like, wow, this looks cool.

[22:04] Yeah.

[22:05] I would like to see it, actually.

[22:07] I haven't watched it yet.

[22:07] My octopus teacher, again, it's like I was making a joke that the guy has sex with the octopus.

[22:12] It really doesn't.

[22:13] It's about so this octopus gets hired as a teacher.

[22:16] They think it's a guy named Mr. Autopus.

[22:21] it turns out to be an octopus but he teaches everyone a lesson about poetry and standing up

[22:25] for yourself uh against starfish

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[26:46] let's see uh what other things uh this is one of those years i feel like i'm so cut off from

[26:51] the outside world that even like the songs in the song category i don't know

[26:56] most i don't know that i've heard any of them you know it doesn't and pixar has two movies

[27:03] nominated for best animated feature it has soul and uh onward right that's right uh i have seen

[27:11] the first half of onward and i've seen the first 20 minutes and the last 20 minutes of soul that's

[27:17] what watching movies with a two-year-old and a seven-year-old is like the two-year-old is

[27:21] constantly running out of the room uh from what i saw though i think the one that i liked the most

[27:25] was honestly shawn the sheep farmageddon which i got to watch almost all of with my son and it's

[27:31] it's hard to go wrong with those but i know jesse thorne of maximum fun is a big fan of wolfwalkers

[27:36] was nominated and then there's over the moon which i don't know what it is that's apple plus

[27:40] yeah it's apple plus which is why i think i think apple plus is like the one streaming service i

[27:46] don't have uh you know of course i have shutter has anything uh been nominated that's on shutter

[27:52] guys uh not that i was i mean promising young woman there's a world where that could have been

[27:58] on shutter you know theoretically yeah you guys got any uh snubs and flubs you know i mean snubs

[28:06] i mean the big thing is i keep hearing uh there's i mean obviously there's in best supporting actor

[28:11] there's a pretty obvious one i don't i mean everybody's talking about it it's a small role

[28:16] but it's pretty definitive uh it's stewart wellington is tube man in the movie psycho

[28:22] gorman yeah yeah i don't know how i mean it's it's every it's rare that they nominate actors

[28:27] who are in just one scene just their voice but you know if um if you can win a supporting actress

[28:32] award in for network for one scene then maybe you could maybe i don't someone else you know

[28:37] an official rule that says you have to say more than one word but i think that it's true kind of

[28:44] an unwritten rule but um that was and just for the record i mean they let a fucking they let a

[28:50] fucking dog play basketball in movies they gonna let me win an award that's a good point there's

[28:56] nothing in the rule book and if a guy can win best actor for lip-syncing why can't you win best actor

[29:01] for just having a voice and no face that's the thing that no nothing will make me laugh harder

[29:06] in an oscars uh show than when they for rami malek's performance they just showed him lip-syncing

[29:14] so fucking funny yeah uh i know that in our household uh there's a little disappointment

[29:21] um that uh the invisible man got nothing which i know in a normal year might be kind of more of a

[29:29] long shot thing but uh i thought it was a long shot isn't it from the x-men and you know like

[29:35] it you know it's another like you know you've got promising young woman in there which is also kind

[29:41] of a genre movie well movie wearing genre garb although less than in the invisible man dealing

[29:48] with i would get i would i would actually bet that the invisible man is wearing less clothes

[29:52] because it wouldn't be invisible yeah he was wearing clothes you'd be surprised

[29:56] okay i mean it's just it's less scary when you just see a pair of tidy whitey's floating around

[30:01] you know where he is and it's just kind of silly and but you know like similar uh uh themes using

[30:07] sort of like genre trappings to talk about uh uh problems uh violence against women and uh and

[30:14] the Invisible Man was terrific and Elizabeth Moss has been on a hot streak of good stuff so that's

[30:21] that's one that uh jumped out maybe. Hmm I mean for me like I mentioned uh the Delroy Lindo and

[30:28] just uh Defy Bloods in general not receiving too much it got like Score and a couple other ones

[30:34] But that was a movie that I really liked a lot even though it was kind of – like many Spike Lee movies, it was – there were parts of it – there were aspects of it that I liked more than other aspects of it.

[30:45] But I just thought that performance was really good.

[30:47] And, of course, I'd probably serve for that a Delroy Lanyap.

[30:51] Again, it's the same thing I did for Nomadland, but it would be a different Lanyap.

[30:54] Maybe that one would be like a beignet and this one would be like a licorice twist or a peppermint.

[31:01] And, you know, something just to give you a little bit of a good taste in your mouth on the way out of the theater because it's such a rough movie, you know.

[31:08] Yeah, that's, I mean, I like that.

[31:12] I feel one of the things I like about Defy Bloods is just how it feels like Spike Lee got to do as much as he wanted.

[31:19] Yeah.

[31:20] Yes.

[31:20] And, you know, parts of it I don't like.

[31:23] Or it's not that I didn't like it.

[31:25] It was just it felt a little shaggy.

[31:27] But no, yeah, it was great.

[31:31] Now, you guys have the list in front of you.

[31:33] Which cast members from One Night in Miami were nominated?

[31:36] So, from One Night in Miami, they nominated...

[31:40] I know Leslie Odom Jr. was nominated, and he's great in that.

[31:42] I think he's the only cast member nominated.

[31:45] He looks like he's the only one.

[31:47] Just Leslie Odom Jr.

[31:49] There's an original song for One Night in Miami, Speak Now.

[31:54] And he's great.

[31:55] And it's crazy how he actually re-recorded Sam Cooke's song.

[32:01] uh for that movie which is awesome and i'm looking forward to when uh when the sequel

[32:09] one night in bangkok comes out which is about the making of the play chess it all takes place

[32:13] at the world premiere performance of chess uh and it's going to be dealing with totally different

[32:18] issues probably chess issues and people are so into fucking queen's gambit right now i mean

[32:23] oh of course chess is huge right now it's finally time for me to pitch my reboot of searching for

[32:28] bobby fisher this is this is now here's the thing okay they're searching for bobby fisher and the

[32:34] way they find him is because of an elaborate game hidden within a virtual world that's right it's

[32:39] ready player one meets chess instead of video games and also instead of being stuffed with

[32:46] references to the 1980s which is lame it's stuffed with references to 2018 that's right nostalgia is

[32:54] two years old two and a half you could say and people are going to love it because they still

[32:57] remember all that stuff and you get the young people in because they're already nostalgic for

[33:01] life pre-covid it's called i think i told you it's called already it's called one night in bangkok

[33:05] but anyway i'm going i'm going to interrupt elliot because that pitch was dog shit i'm going to pitch

[33:09] you something better okay my pitch is uh my pitch is we're going to combine searching for bobby

[33:15] fisher and looking for mr goodbar you find bobby fisher you realize he's also mr goodbar

[33:21] okay so you finally find bobby because he is a mentally unbalanced person and he does think

[33:28] you're part of the the global zionist conspiracy that is out to get him for chess playing so yeah

[33:33] sure okay yeah i'm not sure about either of these pages i you are right though chess is uh very big

[33:40] right now i remember recently uh and like it was like in a in a park i saw these chess pieces that

[33:46] were like huge they were like big chess pieces like like like a people could be on this chess

[33:53] board uh-huh i wish that listeners at home could see dan's face as he tries to sell this bit uh

[34:01] i'm trying to break elliot down through the intensity of my trying you know and and you

[34:07] almost did it but instead you made me think of another reboot it's called searching for bobby

[34:10] fisher king that's right bobby fisher is a knight who's trying to find the holy grail and he's got

[34:15] to get past these big chess pieces that are in central park it's sort of an urban fantasia if

[34:21] you will uh in which i mean that it's the movie fantasia but it's set in a city so like alligators

[34:27] and hippos are dancing in a city you got yeah i guess it's cool world now that i think about it

[34:31] yeah okay so they made it already it's called cool world anyway what if it's uh wait have this

[34:36] okay the cool world the cool world according to garp is that something that uh we're dan i think

[34:43] that's something what do you think okay what were you gonna say dad i was gonna pitch my movie

[34:47] searching for bobby fisher stevens where fisher stevens thinks that bobby kennedy is still alive

[34:54] and he's searching for him oh wow okay that's pretty good that's that's better than this

[34:59] animated wrestling movie that ellie just pitched i guess so i guess that's true and it's also

[35:07] better than searching for bobby fisher price uh this is just a toy that got lost you know yeah

[35:13] yeah oh boy guys that was a lot of laughing so that's that's oscar nom noms 2021 i think we

[35:23] learned a lot about food we learned a lot about life love the awards season uh so now it's time

[35:28] for your predictions guys what's gonna win the oscar next year in 2022 now most of these movies

[35:34] have not been released maybe they don't exist yet what what's going to win best picture in 2022 we

[35:39] have to have our predictions right now does the snyder cut sound uh does that count as 2021 22

[35:45] i don't know that it's actually going to play in any theaters it has to play in a theater before

[35:50] its television release so the snyder cut may be disqualified people are loving it four hours

[35:57] four hours of uh just heroes hitting each other over the head with urinals i'll be there i'll see

[36:03] it i think my guess is for 2022 it's going to be there so people are going to be back in the

[36:08] theaters they're going to be and the academy voters are going to be wined and dined again

[36:11] so it's going to be the return of the kind of big dumb hollywood movies that historically have won

[36:17] uh but this year didn't have a chance so i think the one uh that's going to be nominated is going

[36:23] to be called and win the oscar i think is going to be called millard millard okay inspiring true

[36:32] story of millard fillmore uh except what they're going to do is they're going to update it they

[36:37] said it now and also instead of becoming and that's that's yeah that's i'm just uh just to

[36:43] clarify that is a world where mallard fillmore is a human and not a duck right yes oh i should

[36:49] have made that clear yes so it's a so it's an adaptation of mallard fillmore but they make

[36:53] him a person instead of duck he still lives in a tree he's still what a newspaper reporter uh

[36:57] No, that's Shue. You're thinking of Shue. He's the one where they're reporters.

[37:02] Mallard Fillmore is, I think he, well, wait, hold on.

[37:05] Wait, Mallard Fillmore also wears a press hat.

[37:07] I think he's also a reporter, but they don't live in the tree like the Shue.

[37:10] Anyway, whatever. Like, it's just a strip that's like Republican talking points without a joke.

[37:17] They're both prequels to the return of Howard the Duck to the MCU.

[37:20] That's what it really comes down to.

[37:22] What is it about ducks and reporting? Why are they drawn to journalism?

[37:27] i don't and dan any any guesses on on big oscar winners of next year uh i'm gonna put it all on

[37:38] number 39 oh wow okay wow well i guess what we won't find out till next year if that was a smart

[37:45] bet or not yeah excuse me fellows i would like to make a prediction of my own place i wonder what

[37:54] Uh, what movie might you be interested in, sir?

[37:57] Well, just to, I was hoping one of you would introduce me to the audience, but I apparently

[38:01] I have to do it myself.

[38:02] I'm sorry, Mr. Tom Brokaw.

[38:05] Thank you so much for coming out here.

[38:06] I saw you popped up on the Zoom because you're still following COVID protocols.

[38:12] And I see that your name down there, it says Tom Dune Expert Brokaw.

[38:17] That's interesting.

[38:18] I legally changed my middle name to Dune Expert.

[38:21] At least for Zoom reasons.

[38:23] I now go by T. Dune Expert Brokaw, and you'll think I have an idea what might win the Oscar next year.

[38:32] There's a big movie.

[38:33] Yes, it was released on HBO Max, but day and date with the theaters.

[38:37] Very heavily looked forward to about a certain Maude Dieb who enters a strange world,

[38:45] a strange world in which they have to learn to survive and also learn to form alliances

[38:52] to deal with the larger problem of resource scarcity.

[38:56] And that movie is Tom and Jerry.

[38:58] Now, mod div technically means desert mouse,

[39:01] so I'm referring to Jerry in this case.

[39:04] But I found that Tom and Jerry really was a star-studded film

[39:09] that I had always wanted to see.

[39:11] And unfortunately, there's nothing else coming out this year

[39:13] that I think could really compete with it for the Oscars next year.

[39:17] Oh, wow.

[39:19] And wait, Tom Brokaw just left?

[39:21] He closed his browser.

[39:22] He just left the meeting room.

[39:30] What a great improv technique, Stuart,

[39:35] for when you're tired and you want the episode to be over.

[39:39] Oh, it seems like all the characters have left the room.

[39:46] It's the Zoom improv equivalent of,

[39:50] what's that I'm going through a tunnel?

[39:51] i can't hear you yeah i'm losing the call well guys uh thanks everybody for listening to our

[39:59] oscar thoughts this year uh please remember these are not uh these predictions are only for

[40:04] recreational purposes please do not base bets on them we are not responsible if you bet on number

[40:08] 39 and lose everything uh but thanks for joining us i hope this year we can all enjoy not just the

[40:15] oscars but the world of cinema wherever we are whenever we are that's right people in the past

[40:21] and future i'm saying it to you too uh and guys before we go what what is the flop house uh food

[40:27] what if the flop house was a food uh to leave people with what would it be uh oh man some sort

[40:34] of uh something gooey something real true and gooey all right that's i don't know why that

[40:40] makes sense but it does it's got to be involved somehow what do you got some kind of like it's

[40:46] like a big old plate of nachos you got your beans you got cheese you got sliced jalapenos for the

[40:53] when you want a little bit of heat you gotta tell it's a sour sour cream in case uh you know

[40:59] you aren't lactose intolerant like me um yeah uh yeah i mean that all makes sense to me yeah uh to

[41:07] be i i was looking through some movies from this year and i and there is one movie that i was now

[41:12] that i think about it uh are you gonna say first cow should have been nominated no because i still

[41:16] haven't gotten to see that but i really oh it's great it should have been nominated i really want

[41:19] to see it uh but i think that uh the movie beanpole was not nominated for best foreign language film

[41:27] and i thought that was a really uh moving and uh and at times very painful movie uh uh but you know

[41:34] i can't think of any foods that would go with it so i guess i just won't talk that much but

[41:38] so beanpole no meal i mean you won't want to eat a meal it's a depressing movie but anyway

[41:43] uh guys thanks so much for joining me on this journey into time wasting uh for the record in

[41:49] case anyone wants to sue us for taking this time away from them my name has been elliot kalin i've

[41:55] been dan mccoy and i'm steward wellingtown saying good oscarsing to ya bye

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