Ep. #342 - The Country Bears

Elliott Kalan

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss the country bears!

[0:04] For MaxFun Pledge Drive season!

[0:06] That's right, everybody's favorite thing, bears and pledge breaks.

[0:11] Because good things come in bears!

[0:14] Ugh, Dan, no.

[0:30] Hey, everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse.

Dan McCoy

[0:45] I'm Dan McCoy.

Stuart Wellington

[0:47] I'm Stuart Bear Wellington.

Elliott Kalan

[0:50] And I'm Elliot Kalin, wondering where Stuart got that nickname, because I've never heard it before.

Stuart Wellington

[0:56] I thought we were doing, like, cool bear names, like in the movie we're talking about this week.

Elliott Kalan

[1:00] So your cool bear name is just...

[1:02] Bear?

[1:02] Your name with bear in the middle?

Stuart Wellington

[1:04] Yeah, I mean, that's a nickname. You've heard that before.

[1:07] You didn't hear people call me that?

[1:12] Yeah, anyway.

[1:13] It was because of that time when we were playing softball, and I covered myself in honey,

[1:16] and I started running around saying, hey, must be the honey!

Dan McCoy

[1:20] That was a good gag.

[1:23] Too bad you were soon swarmed by bees.

[1:26] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:27] Better than being swarmed by bears.

[1:30] That's true.

Dan McCoy

[1:31] Well, each of us has two bears inside of us already.

Elliott Kalan

[1:35] Yeah, we talked about that. That's true, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:37] Yeah, like, so it depends. If there's two or fewer bears swarming us, it's probably a fair fight.

Elliott Kalan

[1:42] Let me just put an asterisk next to what you said, and that asterisk goes to a little yellow box that says,

[1:47] as seen in the New Mutants episode, face front true believers.

[1:51] Mm-hmm.

[1:52] Stultify and Stan.

Dan McCoy

[1:54] So, guys, this is a podcast called The Flophouse, and on The Flophouse, we usually watch a bad movie,

[2:01] and then we talk about it. Now, I don't know if the country bears fits into that rubric,

[2:06] but before we get there, this is the MaxFun pledge drive time. I believe that, Elliot, you have a few words to say quickly off the top.

Elliott Kalan

[2:17] Seamless as always. Seamless segue. That's right, guys. It's that special time again.

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[3:50] the goddamn country bears for some reason.

Dan McCoy

[3:52] If you do it now, you can ignore the bullshit that I'll say later. See, that's the advantage of it.

Elliott Kalan

[3:58] You can really ride that 15-second skip button. Just skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip,

[4:02] back to the bears. Skip, skip, skip, skip, skip.

[4:04] But not my part. I put so much effort into it.

Dan McCoy

[4:06] All right. Listen to stewards no matter what, but I give you permission to ignore me.

Elliott Kalan

[4:10] If you've made a pledge already.

[4:12] If you've made a pledge.

[4:13] At MaximumFun.org slash join.

[4:15] Otherwise, rapt attention. That's what I demand.

[4:17] Raptor attention. Pay attention as if a raptor was going to attack you.

[4:22] Now, today we're doing something special because it's the pledge drive. We're not talking about

[4:26] some new hit blockbuster that's on HBO Max right now, but we will be doing a lot of that

[4:30] throughout the year. Dan, you very specifically wanted to, you had a real come to Jesus moment

[4:35] involving the Country Bears movie. And I want to hear about this road to Damascus experience

[4:39] you had with the Country Bears. Tell us about it before we get into the film.

Dan McCoy

[4:43] Well, no, I mean, as it has been referenced before, I'm a member of a bad movie watching

[4:49] a group that does, you know, streaming group chats every Monday. And one of them brought the

[4:59] Country Bears to the attention of the group. We all watched it together.

[5:05] You know, to a person, I think everyone had a rapturous response. Loved it.

[5:12] The first time I watched it...

Stuart Wellington

[5:12] What are we talking? Were you like booze, coke, weed? What's up?

Dan McCoy

[5:18] Ayahuasca.

[5:20] It's quite possible there was a little weed involved on my part, which is why the first

[5:25] time around, I may have like laughed hysterically through a lot of it.

Stuart Wellington

[5:29] Dan looked over his shoulder to make sure there weren't any cops, even though it's legal in

[5:33] New York now.

Dan McCoy

[5:35] Crazy, huh?

[5:37] No, the first time though...

Elliott Kalan

[5:38] And there are two cops in the movie, so he kept thinking they were there to arrest him

[5:41] and got very paranoid, hid behind his couch. Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[5:45] The first time I focused on how bizarre I thought the movie was, but the second time I sort of

[5:49] focused as well on like, once I got over that, I was like, oh, this is... they put a lot of work

[5:54] into this Country Bears movie. I really, you know, kind of respect what they're doing here,

[5:59] but we can just dive into it, I think.

[6:02] Okay, let's dive into the... what's the deal with this?

Elliott Kalan

[6:03] Let's stage dive into these bears, much like Country Bears star Fred Betterhead himself,

[6:08] inventor of the stage dive.

[6:09] I thought it was Ted Betterhead.

[6:11] Ted is the other one.

[6:12] Okay.

[6:14] Ted is the one with glasses who does not stage dive.

[6:18] Okay.

Dan McCoy

[6:19] I did want to, speaking of stages, I wanted to set the stage a little bit in that I wanted

[6:25] to place this film in history.

[6:28] This was during...

[6:30] This came out in 2002.

[6:32] It was part of the move that Disney was thinking like, oh, let's make all of our attractions,

[6:43] our amusements from Disneyland or Disney World into movies.

[6:48] And that had kicked off with The Haunted Mansion in 98, which was not much of a success, I believe.

[6:57] I don't know what the... I think it was a financial flop, but it was certainly a critical one.

[7:00] Well, they didn't make any more.

Elliott Kalan

[7:02] So if they thought they could get money out of it, they would have made five more.

Dan McCoy

[7:06] Well, except for they made this movie in 2002.

[7:10] This was also a flop, commercially and critically.

[7:13] And in 2003, it finally paid off when, of course, Pirates of the Caribbean, Curse of the Black Pearl...

[7:19] Bofo B-O there.

[7:20] Bofo B-O, baby bear.

Elliott Kalan

[7:24] And it wasn't until years later that Disney hit on the reasoning, well, why don't we just

[7:28] make new versions of the movies we already know are huge hits?

[7:32] Let's just do that.

[7:33] Why are we doing that?

[7:35] Why are we coming up with new stories?

[7:37] We can just make the same old stuff again.

Dan McCoy

[7:39] Yep.

[7:40] Well, they're, you know, masters of recycling, good for the environment.

[7:43] You know, they use all parts of the amusement park and their own IP.

Elliott Kalan

[7:48] Yeah.

[7:49] Oh, thank you.

[7:49] There's nothing left.

[7:50] They just take it to the bone.

[7:52] Dan, I'm so glad.

[7:52] I was really worried when you said you were going to place in history that you were going

[7:55] to be like, the Country Bears was coming at a time when America needed to be lifted up

[7:59] after 9-11.

[8:00] And I was like, damn.

[8:00] Since the beginning of time.

[8:01] I was like, this is not something we need to talk about during the Country Bears.

[8:05] So let's, so as everyone knows now that, thanks to Dan, the Country Bears is based on the attraction

[8:10] of the Country Bears, what, Jamboree at Disneyland, at Disney World.

[8:14] Now this, for anyone who has never been to this attraction, you go to a music hall where

[8:19] a bunch of robot bears sing about hillbilly stuff.

[8:23] There are hillbilly bears who put on a country show.

[8:25] It's very much, you can tell this is one of those attractions from a time when kind of

[8:30] yokel country stuff was still really big in pop culture, which is a period from like the

[8:35] 30s until, or the 20s until like the 70s, basically.

[8:39] You had like a 50 or 60 year period where hillbilly culture was the source of all culture for a

[8:45] while.

Dan McCoy

[8:45] Yep.

[8:45] That's why we're all in jug bands wearing overalls around for so many decades.

Elliott Kalan

[8:50] In the 80s, we were, anyway.

[8:51] But there was a period when it was not that out of the ordinary to see characters that

[8:55] were hillbilly stereotypes just in a major thing.

[8:58] And the Country Bears movie, I feel like, comes out after that is no longer the case.

Dan McCoy

[9:03] Right.

[9:04] Well, also, like, look, I will never, like, I love the animatronic attractions at the

[9:11] Disney parks.

[9:11] I've not seen Country Bears, but I have a real fondness for the ones that are just like,

[9:16] either you float by a bunch of robots doing something, or you sit and watch a bunch of robots

[9:21] doing something.

Elliott Kalan

[9:21] When I was a kid, honestly, one of my favorite attractions at Disney World was the Kitchen

[9:24] Cabaret, which was just like animatronic foods singing about nutrition.

[9:28] And I remember like, loving all the corny jokes, loving all the dumb songs.

[9:33] Like, but there's something about watching the movie that has semi-realistic bear costumes,

[9:37] as if the Country Bears have torn their paws from the bolts holding them down to the floor

[9:42] and are now free to roam around, that is very frightening.

Dan McCoy

[9:44] Well, now, so these are Jim Henson creations, and they look to be men in big, big, like,

[9:54] bulky bear suits with, like, an animatronic head on top.

[9:57] Yeah, like in Fraggle Rock.

[10:00] Yeah.

[10:00] Or, like, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Elliott Kalan

[10:02] Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[10:03] Like TMNT.

[10:04] Yeah, exactly.

[10:04] But they're bears, and they're not ninjas, and they look like they could bite someone's

[10:08] head off at any moment.

Stuart Wellington

[10:10] I was trying to think, like, you bring up the cultural obsession with, like, Hillbillies

[10:15] made me look up when the Beverly Hillbillies movie was launched, which was, like, almost

[10:22] 10 years before, and I'm sure it was a huge success.

[10:24] But interestingly, it also featured the acting talents of Diedrich Bader, who is in...

[10:29] Oh.

[10:30] The Country Bears.

[10:30] He's in Country Bears.

[10:31] Two roles in The Country Bears.

[10:32] Two roles.

Elliott Kalan

[10:33] Diedrich Bader has, I mean, I feel like he is, I mean, he's a very talented comedy performer,

[10:38] and he can kind of turn on or turn off Southern, which is something that is, depending on the

[10:45] role, he's either very Southern or very not Southern.

[10:49] You know?

[10:50] But that's...

Dan McCoy

[10:50] I mean, you could say that depending on the role, all of us are very Southern or very not

[10:54] Southern.

[10:54] Interesting.

Elliott Kalan

[10:55] I mean, not every performer is Southern all the time.

Dan McCoy

[10:59] I've spent most of my time not being Southern.

[11:01] I think 100% of your time.

Elliott Kalan

[11:04] Well, anyway, guys, let's talk about, we talked a lot about The Country Bears in the

[11:07] Abstract.

[11:08] Let's meet these particular Country Bears.

[11:11] So the opening credits, they show us a lot of vintage footage and headlines about these

[11:15] huge music stars, the Country Bears.

[11:17] We're introduced to all four of them.

[11:18] There's Ted Betterhead on vocals and lead guitar, Fred Betterhead on harmonica and bass.

[11:23] That's his brother, Zeb Zuber on fiddle.

[11:25] He's the most yokel of all of them, I think, because he's got a big yokel hat, and he plays

[11:30] fiddle.

[11:30] And Tennessee O'Neill, whose name is not as fun as the others, who is on the, what they call

[11:34] in the credits, the one string thing.

[11:35] It's just a guitar with one string on it.

[11:37] The drummer is human and not really, no one pays attention to them.

[11:42] No.

[11:42] And they specialize in kind of-

Dan McCoy

[11:44] Well, he's played by MC Ganey.

[11:45] I paid attention to him.

[11:46] I mean, later he's played by MC Ganey.

Elliott Kalan

[11:48] Earlier on, he's not.

[11:50] But I assume the Country Bears, like Spinal Tap, go through drummers like crazy because

[11:54] they kill them and eat them.

[11:55] Yeah.

[11:55] You know, because bears are, you should not be around them.

[11:58] And they play kind of light adult contemporary country rock, I guess you would call it, for

[12:02] an entirely human audience.

[12:03] There are not many bears in this movie.

[12:05] And we learned that they broke up in 1991, 11 years earlier.

[12:09] Now, Dan, I want-

Stuart Wellington

[12:10] You're influencing the likes of Willie Nelson and a variety of other big name acts.

Elliott Kalan

[12:14] And there's a lot of big name performers who basically put everything at the feet of the

[12:18] Country Bears.

[12:19] Now, let's talk about these costumes again.

[12:20] I just want to get across my experience watching this movie where, so I watch most of these

[12:24] movies, again, usually while I'm doing the dishes.

[12:27] And so I'm not looking at the screen the whole time.

[12:29] And every now and then, the Country Bears would say a funny joke.

[12:31] And I'd laugh and look at the screen and be reminded of how horrifically too real these

[12:36] costumes look.

[12:37] And I'd be like, ah, a bear said that.

Dan McCoy

[12:39] Yeah.

[12:40] You can smell these costumes.

[12:44] Yeah.

[12:44] It's not the Uncanny Valley because it's not like you're a case where like, oh, this looks

[12:50] too much like a bear and you're put off by like how it's almost a bear but not.

[12:55] But it is kind of too realistic for what's going on.

[12:58] And also, like, you've made some mention of it.

[13:02] Like, the thing that tickled me the most when I first watched this movie is how little it

[13:06] really figures in that they're bears.

[13:08] Almost not at all.

[13:10] That would normally be the hook of a movie.

[13:13] And the decision that this film makes, which like, upon second viewing, I appreciate even

[13:17] more, is that they largely ignore the fact that they're all bears.

Elliott Kalan

[13:22] Yeah.

[13:22] And yet the bears are, it's not like you think they're real bears, but they are not

[13:26] cartoonish bear suits.

[13:28] Like, they're not cute.

[13:29] Like, they look like if you cross one of them, it will rip your throat out with its teeth or

[13:34] claws.

Elliott Kalan

[13:34] They got some heft.

[13:36] Yes.

[13:37] Yeah.

[13:37] They look powerful.

[13:38] These are powerful bears.

[13:40] Powerful, powerful bears.

Dan McCoy

[13:41] I would like to say that this opening montage, too, like, you wonder yourself, why did the

[13:46] country bears break up?

[13:47] And you will not get that answer until very late in the movie, and then it's kind of barely

[13:53] there.

[13:55] I get it.

Elliott Kalan

[13:56] Good pun, Dan.

[13:56] Good pun.

Dan McCoy

[13:57] Not meant to be a...

[13:58] Fun.

[13:58] No, okay.

Elliott Kalan

[13:59] You did it.

[13:59] Okay.

[14:00] Listeners, just for the pledge drive Dan has pledged, he's going to make as many bear

[14:04] puns as possible.

[14:05] See if you can find them all.

[14:06] Oh, no.

[14:08] Oh, wow.

[14:10] So...

[14:10] I gotta start Googling bear stuff.

[14:13] Dan, don't just Google bear stuff.

[14:15] You're gonna...

[14:16] I mean, put safe search on.

[14:17] Sure, why not?

[14:18] I mean, yeah, actually, you know what?

[14:19] It's fine.

[14:19] You're an adult.

[14:20] Just Google whatever you want.

[14:21] Within reason.

[14:23] So then we're gonna meet our main character, Barry Barrington.

[14:25] The name is kind of on the nose that his name is Barry.

[14:28] He is a horrifyingly, again, lifelike bear boy, and it's kind of like if Michael J.

[14:32] Fox was a bear.

[14:33] It's kind of the way it...

[14:34] Kind of, yeah.

[14:36] From, like, not Back to the Future Michael J. Fox, but Class of 1984 Michael J. Fox,

[14:40] when he's a little bit younger, if he was a bear.

[14:42] And he's...

Stuart Wellington

[14:43] Yeah, he's voiced by Haley Joel Osment, who...

[14:46] Yes.

[14:47] Do you think...

[14:48] Because now he kind of looks like his character.

Elliott Kalan

[14:51] Oh, I don't think so.

[14:53] Because he looks kind of like a bear man.

[14:55] Because he's gotten older and he has a beard all the time?

[14:58] Yeah.

[14:59] Okay, well...

[15:00] Duh, duh, duh.

[15:01] But he doesn't look like...

[15:02] He doesn't have round ears on the top of his head, you know?

[15:05] Or a snap.

[15:07] Yeah, that's true.

[15:09] So, Barry Barrington is obsessed with the country bears, which kind of makes sense because there

[15:12] are almost no other bears that talk in existence.

[15:15] He assumes that he's adopted because everyone else in his family is human.

[15:19] His dad is Stephen Tobolowsky.

Dan McCoy

[15:20] Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, my friend.

[15:22] No.

[15:23] He just...

[15:24] The joke is, he has no idea he's adopted.

[15:26] No, no.

Elliott Kalan

[15:26] He asks...

[15:27] He says, was I adopted?

[15:29] That he asks his family that.

[15:31] And his bratty older brother, Dex, played by the voice of Hogarth from The Iron Giant,

[15:35] is like, yeah, you're a bear.

[15:38] You're obviously a bear.

[15:39] Like, he can't quite...

[15:40] It's like, Barry guesses that he's adopted, but he can't quite understand that he's a bear.

[15:44] And so, finally, Barry...

[15:45] He says, this isn't your family.

[15:46] And Barry runs away.

[15:47] And in case you're starting to wonder, yes, this movie has the same plot as the 2011

[15:52] The Muppets movie.

[15:53] The Muppets is a straight ripoff of The Country Bears.

[15:55] This is a scandal.

[15:57] Dan, you're a big fan of The Muppets, and you're especially a big fan of Walter, the character

[16:00] introduced in The Muppets.

[16:01] I am not.

[16:01] How did you feel finding out that it's stealing from The Country Bears?

[16:04] This is The Lion King and Kimball the White Lion all over again.

Dan McCoy

[16:07] Yeah, Dan, what is...

[16:08] Yeah, what's going on?

[16:09] You know, I was actually going to bring up the similarity to the film The Muppets.

[16:14] It's hard not to.

Elliott Kalan

[16:15] It's the same plot, Dan.

Dan McCoy

[16:16] It is the same plot.

[16:19] He's going to start a reunion show among the only people that are his species?

[16:22] Right.

[16:22] Yeah, it's the same plot.

[16:24] But I would...

[16:25] Well, in the context of this, I would like to posit...

[16:26] There's even a bear in The Muppets.

Elliott Kalan

[16:28] His name's Fozzie, Dan.

[16:30] This is wheels within wheels.

[16:31] Everything's connected.

[16:32] We are through the looking glass.

Dan McCoy

[16:34] I would like to posit that among other reasons why this movie may not have hit with the public,

[16:39] The Country Bears.

[16:40] Like, the reason this was more successful in The Muppets is...

[16:44] The Muppets are characters that, you know, have this nostalgia value.

[16:49] People are, of a certain age at least, are utterly familiar with, like, all of the personalities of The Muppets.

[16:56] So there's, like, this certain, like, zazz to the idea of, like, oh, The Muppets haven't worked together in a while.

[17:02] Like, this guy discovers he's a Muppet.

[17:04] He's going to get them all back together.

[17:06] Here with The Country Bears, like, we don't have any associations with the beloved characters of The Country Bears.

[17:11] We don't know who all these people are supposed to be.

[17:14] It's just a bunch of, like, interchangeable country bears who need to be returned to the stage.

[17:21] So it's a less successful plot device here.

[17:26] You're saying the audience has no...

Elliott Kalan

[17:27] There's very little stakes if The Country Bears don't get back together.

Dan McCoy

[17:31] Especially since I alluded to this before, like, until the end, there's no real reason why they weren't together the whole time.

[17:38] Especially when, like, every one of them that they encounter seems to be down and out and needs this desperately.

Elliott Kalan

[17:44] But, yeah.

[17:45] And is instantly on board.

[17:46] Yeah.

[17:46] Exactly.

[17:47] Well, here are the stakes.

[17:48] We're going to get to them.

[17:49] As Lyndon Johnson once said in that famous Daisy ad, these are the stakes.

[17:53] Barry takes the bus to legendary Country Bear Hall and sees how evil banker Reed Thimple, played by Christopher Walken in an amazing performance that I love,

[18:03] is telling the hall's manager, Henry, a bear, one of only three non-Country Bear bears aside from Barry.

[18:11] There's Henry.

[18:12] There's the groundskeeper, whose name I don't remember.

[18:14] Big Al.

[18:14] Big Al, who's voiced by the coach from Major League.

[18:17] Yeah, and there's Trixie, the only female bear we see in the entire movie, which might be why there's not that many bears left, to be honest.

[18:24] If there's that big an imbalance between males and females in the species.

[18:28] Dan, wait.

[18:29] Here's the stakes.

[18:30] And then we'll get into it.

[18:30] The stakes are they're six years behind on mortgage payments, and they need to raise $20,000 in four days.

[18:36] There's no way they can do it.

[18:37] Christopher Walken, and that's $2,002.

[18:40] $20,000 was a lot of money back then.

[18:42] Christopher Walken cannot wait to tear the Country Bear Hall down.

[18:45] And he even has a wrecking ball hood ornament on his car.

[18:48] It's incredible.

[18:49] It's great.

[18:50] And Barry is aghast.

[18:52] Dan, tell me what you're going to tell me, and then I have a question for you after that.

Dan McCoy

[18:55] Oh, well, I was just going to say that, like, oh, shit.

[18:59] It went out of my head.

[19:00] Say the question.

Elliott Kalan

[19:01] The question is, Christopher Walken's performance, is this his greatest performance?

Dan McCoy

[19:05] He is extremely committed in this movie.

[19:09] Like, the thing is, like, a lot in this movie, like, this movie could be such an attempt at a cash grab, a quixotic one, because no one wanted to see a Country Bears movie.

[19:20] But, like, it could be that.

[19:21] But everyone is really putting their all into this thing.

Elliott Kalan

[19:24] There's a scene later on where Christopher Walken is in the room with the bears, and he's threatening them.

[19:28] And I was like, it's hard for me to imagine that Christopher Walken is actually in this room with these guys in bear costumes acting up a storm,

[19:37] really throwing himself into the part of this character of an evil banker who wants to tear down a music hall owned by a bunch of hillbilly bears.

Stuart Wellington

[19:44] If I was ever able to interview Christopher Walken and talk to him about a single role, it would be this one.

Elliott Kalan

[19:50] Speak to that.

[19:51] Speak to that, Stuart.

Stuart Wellington

[19:53] I mean, because, yeah, like, I would ask him, like, what was going on in your head?

[19:57] How did you get into the character of Reed Thimble, et cetera, et cetera?

Elliott Kalan

[20:01] And you'll notice that he was nominated for a bunch of, like, those joke bad movie awards for his performance in this.

[20:06] But I think that's one of those misunderstandings where it's like, this is the performance the movie calls for.

[20:10] Like, the movie calls for a big, silly performance.

[20:12] Later on, spoiler alert, he gets his comeuppance.

[20:15] The good guys win.

[20:15] He is making the craziest, angry, confused faces as a crowd sweeps him away.

[20:20] And I was just like, these faces are so—

Stuart Wellington

[20:23] To be torn apart, I would imagine.

Elliott Kalan

[20:24] Yeah, yeah.

[20:25] It's just like the end of the Bacchae.

[20:26] They're going to rip him limb from limb, and then his mother's going to parade through the town with his head on a pole.

[20:30] It's like a—it's just the faces he's making are so amazing.

[20:34] And it's an—I feel like sometimes movies try to get by on Christopher Walken just kind of being a little off as the only joke.

[20:41] But here, they were clearly like, no, you're not Christopher Walken playing this character.

[20:44] You are—you are you playing—you are Reed Thimple.

[20:47] And you're like this crazy banker guy.

[20:50] It's not just Christopher Walken, you know, mannerisms.

Stuart Wellington

[20:53] One of my favorite little details of his character is that the company he's employing to handle the demolitions is called Slamboney Demolitions, which I feel is like a subsidiary of Brazzers or something.

[21:03] Like I expected Johnny Sins to be getting out of the truck.

Elliott Kalan

[21:09] Thank you.

[21:10] Thank you, Stuart, for injecting that real-life porn knowledge into our MaxFun Pledge Drive episode, the one where you ask our fans to support us.

[21:16] I've got to pay for my porn, Elliot.

[21:18] Just so you know where Stuart's money is going to.

Dan McCoy

[21:21] I remember what I was going to say, which is just that on the note of like there only being like a few other bears around, like mostly humans and then these like talking bears that everyone treats as if they're just normal people.

[21:35] I find it very funny in the early scenes where they're trying to convince—like the kid is trying to convince his brother Bear—brother Bear, another Disney film—that he is a bear.

Elliott Kalan

[21:45] It's what Disney Plus recommended to me as soon as Quintry was ended.

[21:48] I was like, I'm not just into bear things.

[21:51] Exactly.

[21:52] Show me the Muppets since it's the same exact plot.

[21:55] Unless Brother Bear is the same plot, you know.

Stuart Wellington

[21:57] Elliot, your next 10 birthdays, you're getting ceramic bears from me.

[22:00] I'm sorry.

[22:00] Thank you.

Elliott Kalan

[22:01] No, I don't want bears.

[22:02] I'm not into bears now.

[22:03] But it's like when years ago—I don't know if IMDb still has the like movie recommendations thing where it said if you like this movie, you might like these others.

[22:11] And I was looking up the—it was when From Hell came out.

[22:14] And I looked up From Hell and on the recommendations it also recommended like Rising Sun and I think Murder at 1600.

[22:20] And I was like, the only thing these have in common—maybe it's Absolute Power.

[22:23] The only thing these have in common is that they're all movies where prostitutes are murdered.

[22:26] Like that's not a good reason to choose a movie.

[22:28] Like that's terrifying.

[22:30] That's horrible.

[22:31] Anyway.

[22:31] Dan, what were you going to say?

Dan McCoy

[22:32] The point of what I was saying was when he was trying—the brother was trying to convince the bear brother that he was adopted.

[22:37] He's like, here's my adoption certificate and here's yours.

[22:40] And like pulls up—or birth certificate and here's yours.

[22:42] And he like picks up like a tracking collar.

[22:46] Yeah.

[22:46] Like there's a photo of him being like held up by a park ranger, which introduces all these questions about—so they know what bears are.

[22:56] Like wild bears.

[22:58] And this is a wild bear that has been caught and adopted by a human family, I suppose.

Elliott Kalan

[23:02] It is a bad bar scenario, Dan, or perhaps a bad bear scenario.

[23:06] It is colonization and cultural imperialism writ large, where not just other peoples, but even other species need to be forced to live in the ways that a capitalist imperialist society demands they are.

[23:17] But yeah, also it's just kind of a funny gag.

Stuart Wellington

[23:19] Yeah, I think you're suggesting that country bears walked so that Paddington could run, right?

[23:24] Is that what you're saying, Dan?

Dan McCoy

[23:27] Well, I mean, seeing as Paddington is based on a series of books that predates the country bears, I wouldn't say that.

Elliott Kalan

[23:32] But country bears is based on an electronic live-action attraction at a theme park, so it's kind of the same thing.

[23:38] I wonder which one's first.

[23:41] When is Paddington?

[23:41] Time to check it out.

[23:42] Anyway, go on.

[23:43] I mean, but there's so many other bears in literature that—I mean, there's Little Bear, and there's Gentle Ben, and there's also Bear Grylls.

[23:53] There's so many other bears in popular culture.

[23:55] You know, who came first?

[23:56] No one will ever know.

[23:57] There's no way of telling.

[23:57] So anyway, two police officers, Officers Ham and Cheats, are set—this is an officer Cheats—

Stuart Wellington

[24:04] Is that a specific joke?

[24:06] Because Stephen Toblowski is like, wait, that's really your names?

[24:11] And I'm like—

Elliott Kalan

[24:12] Well, it just sounds like ham and cheese, I think is the only joke.

[24:16] And this is the second of Diedrich Bader's roles in the movie, because he plays one of the bears, and he plays Officer Cheats, and he has a big fake mustache.

[24:25] And Dex is mad that nobody seems to realize that Barry is a bear.

[24:29] Of course he's figured out he's a dogtective, but nobody else seems to be thinking that Barry is a bear.

[24:34] Henry is showing Barry around the storied Country Bear Hall, and he says at one point that Hendrix played there, but the biggest of them all was the Country Bears.

[24:41] And I was like, whoa, movie.

[24:43] Wait a second.

[24:44] It is a—I am willing to suspend my disbelief that there is a group of bears that can play music and were once rock and roll stars.

[24:50] It is hard for me to imagine them being bigger stars than Jimi Hendrix.

[24:53] This is a strange world that we live in.

[24:55] Don't make me suspend my disbelief.

Dan McCoy

[24:57] Are you saying that if there was a band full of musical bears, that wouldn't be the hugest thing ever?

[25:06] Come on.

[25:06] He's got you.

Elliott Kalan

[25:08] Are ZZ Top the hairiest rock stars in the world, the biggest rock stars in the world?

Stuart Wellington

[25:12] They are basically three bear men.

[25:15] Trace Hombres, yep.

Elliott Kalan

[25:16] Yeah.

[25:17] But there's also—but also they're not in direct competition with each other.

[25:20] Like, Jimi Hendrix played hard rock, and the Country Bears play soft country rock.

[25:25] Like, why would you compare the two of them?

[25:26] I don't understand.

[25:27] Why would you compare the two of them?

[25:29] I don't get it.

[25:29] Anyway, Barry—

[25:30] Okay, Elliot's getting in the game.

[25:31] He's got a point now.

[25:32] I got it.

[25:33] Look, I got to pick up the slack.

[25:34] We promised a lot to our pledge people, and Dan is not doing the bear puns.

[25:37] So, Barry decides that his higher purpose in life is to save the hall with a reunion show.

[25:43] Henry is against the idea until he hears Barry singing a Country Bears song with real passion,

[25:48] and they pull out the dusty old tour bus and pull out the dusty old roadie MC Ganey,

[25:52] who I guess has been living on the tour bus with a chicken, and they're going to track the bears down.

Stuart Wellington

[25:56] I love the idea that the casting agent's like,

[25:58] we just need you to do the same thing you did in Con Air.

[26:03] You're the same character, basically.

Elliott Kalan

[26:06] And he's like, so this is a sort of con bear?

[26:08] No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[26:11] There's no actual cons.

[26:13] So now they've got to go to the first bear on the list is Fred Betterhead.

[26:17] He's a security guard at a studio where they're shooting a music video.

Stuart Wellington

[26:21] Yeah, this is like a real Mass Effect 2 situation where you've got to track down your elite team of battlers.

Elliott Kalan

[26:28] Exactly, except they're an elite team of Country Bears.

[26:31] And by elite, I mean, certainly they're the elite Country Bears.

[26:33] There are no others.

[26:34] They're the best by definition.

Dan McCoy

[26:36] Is Betterhead a sex pun?

[26:40] I honestly couldn't figure out.

Elliott Kalan

[26:41] No complaints.

[26:42] Okay.

[26:43] I'm just wondering.

[26:44] The only thing I could think of, because it's not like a rock and roll thing that I could think of.

[26:47] I mean, a head is like a pothead.

[26:49] But the only thing I could think of is that it's a play on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles villain Leatherhead,

[26:54] who's a Cajun alligator.

[26:56] But I was like, that's a strange reference for this movie to make.

[27:00] Yeah.

[27:01] Especially because by this point, I think the Ninja Turtles were a Nickelodeon property.

[27:04] That's direct competition with Disney.

[27:06] Anyway, Fred is a guard at a music studio, at a set where they're shooting a music video.

[27:12] The singer recognizes him, and they jam on a musical number, and Fred stage dives, but there's no in the crowd to catch him, so he just falls on the ground.

[27:18] Barry shows up.

Dan McCoy

[27:19] By the way, I just want to say, this singer, Crystal, she was a minor star of the time.

[27:28] There are some people in here that are musical figures that you will recognize, like later on, Bonnie Raitt and Don Henley are in the movie.

[27:37] I Will Make You Love Me's Bonnie Raitt.

[27:40] The saddest song in the universe.

[27:43] But there are also people like Crystal here, or the waitress later, who had a hit, and maybe are not at the forefront of our mind anymore,

[27:53] but are people who maybe would have been known at the time of the Country Bears to audiences.

[27:59] Like, the waitress later is the one who, I was informed by, Audrey did the song,

[28:04] It's Just a Little Crush.

Elliott Kalan

[28:06] That one.

[28:07] Oh, yeah.

[28:08] Okay.

[28:09] See, I didn't recognize them, but I wondered if they were real.

[28:12] So, like, there's a version of this movie that came out eight years later that, like, Rebecca Black is in it,

[28:17] and there's a version of it that comes out now that, like, Billie Eilish is in it.

[28:20] Like, I get it.

[28:20] Okay.

[28:21] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[28:22] Well, what I like about this sequence is that, like, they're doing this music video,

[28:26] and, like, every once in a while, it'll just cut to the side, and you'll see Fred Betterhead,

[28:31] and you're reminded that, oh, yeah, there's a country bear running around.

[28:34] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[28:35] Because no one in the movie, as Dan's mentioned, like, in any way registers that they're bears,

[28:41] and it's weird that they're bears.

[28:42] They're just totally accepted everywhere they go.

[28:44] And so you just, yeah, there's this constant shock of recognition throughout the movie in you, the audience,

[28:49] that a bear is in this scene.

[28:50] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[28:52] Yes.

[28:52] No, you've hit upon it exactly.

[28:55] Like, again, watching it a second time, the effect was dimmed.

[28:58] I could focus on other things.

[28:59] But the first time around, I would just start giggling every once in a while,

[29:03] because there's, like, bears roaming around, and no one was acting like that was weird.

Elliott Kalan

[29:07] It's a little bit like the first time you see cats, and throughout the movie, every five minutes,

[29:11] you're like, this is really happening.

[29:12] Like, there's really a cat singing right now.

[29:14] Like, this is something I never thought I'd see.

[29:17] I never dreamed of.

[29:18] Fred's immediately on board with the reunion.

[29:21] Henry calls up the bear's old promoter, Rip Holland, played by the late Alex Rocco,

[29:25] and he goes, ugh, the man who stole the band from me, and there's bad blood between them.

[29:29] We never find out what that's about.

[29:30] It's never explained.

[29:32] Rip agrees to promote the band.

[29:34] Henry doesn't know that Rip is at rock bottom.

[29:36] He's actually, we find out, using a desk at a furniture store to work from.

[29:39] That's a pretty funny gag.

Stuart Wellington

[29:40] That was a good gag.

[29:41] I like that one.

[29:42] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[29:43] And Fred tells Barry that the Country Bears' big break came when they won a talent contest,

[29:48] beating a boy who could make armpit fart music.

[29:51] That's going to come back.

[29:52] It's not a one-off gag, so be ready for that.

[29:55] Who did not take the loss well.

[29:57] No.

[29:57] Yeah.

[29:57] Let's just say that.

[29:58] Next, they go to a beehive-themed roadhouse where Zeb Zuber

[30:01] is a honeyholic.

[30:03] Wait, let me finish this sentence, Dan.

[30:05] Okay.

[30:05] He is a honeyholic mooching off of the bartender, Queen Latifah.

Dan McCoy

[30:11] You're right.

[30:12] No, I should not have interrupted that.

Elliott Kalan

[30:13] And I have another sentence after that.

[30:16] But Dan, before I get to that sentence, tell me what you were going to say.

Dan McCoy

[30:20] Well, I mean, number one, this is one of the moments where you're like, okay, I guess this

[30:24] is one of the reasons that Country Bears broke up, that this-

[30:27] That Zeb Zuber had a honey habit.

[30:29] Yeah, sure.

[30:29] A honey habit.

[30:30] And the film, because it is four kids, didn't really want to go into the implications of what

[30:35] all this means.

[30:36] But also, I just found it funny that, again, a world where there's barely any bears-

[30:41] Barely any bears.

[30:42] Sorry.

[30:42] Good one.

[30:43] It's the same one, but it was great.

Elliott Kalan

[30:44] I mean, we'll give you half credit for each.

Dan McCoy

[30:47] Okay.

[30:48] A world with so few bears, mostly humans in this bar, but it is a honey-themed-

[30:55] It is a honey bar.

[30:56] There's honeycombs on the walls.

[30:57] There's an electrified bark back scratcher that one of the bears enjoys.

Stuart Wellington

[31:01] Which I think would work in a normal bar.

[31:04] No, I love it.

[31:04] People still like that.

Dan McCoy

[31:05] But it does seem built for bears.

[31:07] It's true.

Stuart Wellington

[31:08] Dan, there's a lot of-

[31:09] Now, is Zeb Zuber the one that's voiced by Steven Root or by Toby Huss?

Elliott Kalan

[31:15] Zeb Zuber is the one who's voiced by Steven Root.

[31:18] Toby Huss does Tennessee O'Neil.

[31:19] Oh, man.

[31:19] And Dedrick Bader does Ted Betterhead.

[31:21] And Fred Betterhead is Brad Garrett.

Dan McCoy

[31:24] So many great character actors are the bears of this.

Elliott Kalan

[31:26] This movie has a great cast.

[31:28] Yeah, yeah.

[31:29] You've got Dedrick Bader, Steven Root, Christopher Walken, Alex Rocco, MC Ganey, Toby Huss.

[31:36] There's a lot of great people in it.

Stuart Wellington

[31:38] The other cop is Daryl-

[31:40] Is Daryl Mitchell.

[31:41] Yeah.

[31:42] Yeah.

[31:42] Hot off the success of Galaxy Quest, you know?

[31:45] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[31:45] There's-

[31:46] Like, this is a-

[31:46] This is not a bad cast for a Country Bears movie.

[31:49] And I guess when they were going through all the silliness, they just had to bear with it for the paycheck.

[31:54] Anyway, moving on.

[31:55] They're in this-

[31:55] The covers were bear.

[31:57] Yeah.

[31:57] Mm-hmm.

[31:58] So, Dan, you're right.

[32:00] It is strange that in this world with very few bears, I guess there's enough people who are addicted to honey, you know?

[32:05] Yeah, yeah.

[32:06] And I'm glad, yeah.

[32:07] If this was an adult movie, there'd be some joke about him, like, servicing Johns in exchange for honey.

[32:11] And I'm glad that it is for kids.

[32:13] Yes.

[32:13] They did not do that.

[32:15] So, Queen Latifah agrees to a bet with Barry.

[32:17] He'll wager the Country Bear bus, and she'll erase Zeb's debts if he can win a music contest against Brian Setzer.

[32:24] So, the next scene is just Brian Setzer and Zeb Zuber, which, again, I'll remind you, Zeb Zuber is Stephen Root.

[32:32] I assume Stephen Root was not in the costume.

[32:34] I've got to imagine he just did the voice.

[32:36] I don't know who played the costume.

[32:37] I kind of like to imagine he was in it.

[32:39] Maybe.

[32:40] I mean, he wore that pan suit in the Ballad of Buster Scruggs.

[32:44] Maybe he did that here.

Stuart Wellington

[32:46] Now, this was a tough scene for me.

[32:47] I've gone on record about my difficulties looking at Rockabilly dudes, but, you know, the Country Bears, you know, I did it for the movie.

[32:56] I did it for work.

[32:57] We appreciate that you bared with it.

Elliott Kalan

[32:59] By looking at them, or what?

[33:00] I don't understand.

Stuart Wellington

[33:01] I don't know.

[33:01] It's just, there's something that doesn't rub me right, you know?

Elliott Kalan

[33:05] I remember, for some reason, I was talking to Sammy recently about Rockabilly and Neo Swing guys, and I was just going on about how dumb their long keychain chains are.

[33:15] And I was showing him pictures of, like, old zoot suit guys, and he was like, that looks cool.

[33:20] Then I showed him modern ones, and he goes, that one doesn't.

[33:22] And I was like, Sammy, thank you.

[33:24] For each thing has its time, you know?

[33:26] And Rockabilly, it's kind of like that.

[33:28] There's this weird subculture that maybe I don't like it because I know if given the right circumstances, I totally would have fallen into it.

[33:35] Where it's like super, that subculture of, like, super punky, anti-establishment people who all look like Betty Page or, like, a 50s greaser.

[33:46] You know?

[33:47] And it's, given the right circumstances, I'd probably be there.

[33:50] I'd have a tattoo of a laughing devil with a mustache or something on my arm.

[33:55] You know, and I'd be in a Rockabilly band.

[33:58] Then I'd become older, and I'd start wearing Panama hats and bowling shirts and hanging around Coney Island.

[34:03] Like, that's, yeah, that's a lifestyle that maybe that's why I don't like it is because it's an alternate sliding doors parallel world for me.

[34:08] A road not taken.

[34:11] Anyway.

[34:11] Interesting.

[34:11] So, anyway, Brian Setzer.

Dan McCoy

[34:13] I apologize to any Rockabilly listeners for the past one minute of content.

Elliott Kalan

[34:17] And to Rockadoodle, the hit cartoon movie about a rock and roll rooster.

[34:22] Anyway, so to make a long story short, Zeb Zuber wins his music contest with Brian Setzer in which they sing a song about honey.

Dan McCoy

[34:29] Well, they sing a song about what's going on right there.

[34:32] Like, the song appears to be improvised on the spot about how I, Brian Setzer, am fighting this bear in a music battle.

[34:41] And how they're doing.

Elliott Kalan

[34:42] It is very, it's off the dome.

[34:44] I guess it's supposed to be off the dome.

[34:45] And there's, this is followed by a lovely intervlude where Christopher Walken wearing a three-piece suit without the jacket from the waist up and boxer shorts from the waist down is just smashing models of the country bear, the country bear hall over and over again.

[34:59] And each time he smashes it and goes, oh no, bear hall.

[35:02] And then smashes it again.

[35:03] Oh no, bear hall.

[35:04] And it is delightful.

Stuart Wellington

[35:06] It's so great.

Elliott Kalan

[35:09] It's like, how is this not a gift that I've seen attached to things?

[35:13] Just him going, oh, smashing it going, oh no.

[35:15] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[35:16] And then he just dumps, he dumps the smashed pieces on a pile of smashed pieces.

[35:19] And I could tell.

Elliott Kalan

[35:20] Is he in a building or is he in like a trailer of a truck made up to look inside like an office?

[35:25] I couldn't quite tell where he was.

[35:27] But.

Elliott Kalan

[35:27] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[35:28] He's inside all of us.

[35:30] And you know what?

[35:31] And that scene does not bode well for the country bears.

[35:34] They're going to need all the support from their community.

[35:37] And you know who else needs support from their community?

[35:39] That's right.

[35:40] Us, the flop house.

[35:41] That's how you do it, Dan.

Dan McCoy

[35:43] That's how you do it.

[35:44] No, I bow to the master.

Stuart Wellington

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[35:59] Now, think of the flop house as like a three-legged stool that one of the country bears might sit on to play one of their banjo songs.

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[37:12] We've recorded episodes about bad television shows.

[37:17] I think there's a couple of our, like, live episodes up there, Dan.

[37:20] Is that correct?

[37:22] Yeah.

[37:23] And we recorded a special episode already this year where Elliot took the reins and ran us through a very spooky adventure.

[37:31] Mm-hmm.

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[37:43] In this case, this year's pin for the Flophouse commemorates probably one of the most important moments of the television show,

[37:50] television show, of the podcast.

[37:53] The moment when a truth-speaking hero named Stuart was relaying the events of the movie Castle Freak,

[38:00] and then a bunch of haters, including his co-hosts and late great director Stuart Gordon, director of the movie Castle Freak,

[38:08] all decided to tell him he was wrong.

Elliott Kalan

[38:12] Dan, Stuart, live your truth.

[38:14] Keep recounting those votes.

[38:15] Maybe it'll turn out that a ding-dong was ripped off.

[38:19] I mean, check the tapes.

[38:20] It's all there.

[38:21] We did check the tapes.

[38:22] That's why we know it didn't happen.

[38:23] Yeah, that's the problem.

Stuart Wellington

[38:25] And there's additional levels above there, obviously, if you can afford it.

[38:31] So now is the time.

[38:33] Head over to MaximumFun.org slash join.

[38:36] Sign up if you have not joined before.

[38:39] And if you already are a supporter of the show, first off, thank you so much.

[38:43] You allow us to do this.

[38:45] You're an important leg of this stool that a country bear is sitting on.

[38:49] But you can also consider, if you can afford it, why don't you consider upgrading your membership to get some of those cool items, some of those cool gifts.

Elliott Kalan

[38:59] Hey, Stu, I was wondering if I could butt in with another incentive gift I want to throw into the pot.

Stuart Wellington

[39:06] Let me check.

[39:07] I'm going to check the rules.

[39:08] Yeah, I think you can.

Elliott Kalan

[39:10] Okay.

[39:10] Good.

[39:11] Great.

[39:12] So people may know that I have a comic book right now.

[39:15] It's called Maniac of New York.

[39:16] It's been selling out on comic book store shelves.

[39:18] But I'm not talking about that book to get you to buy it.

[39:20] You can.

[39:20] It's sold out.

[39:20] I am saying that I'm going to give 10 people who are making new pledges or upgrading their pledges at random.

[39:29] 10 of them will be chosen.

[39:31] And we will get in touch and get your address.

[39:33] And I will send you a signed copy of an issue of Maniac of New York.

[39:37] What?

[39:37] Hopefully issue number one.

[39:38] I have to check how many copies I have on hand of issue number one.

[39:42] But you will get an issue of Maniac of New York signed by me that's going to go to 10 randomly chosen new or upgrading pledge members of Maximum Fun.

[39:52] Just to say thanks.

[39:53] And to the many other people who don't get one in the mail, I also want to say thanks.

[39:57] But I only have so many copies.

[40:00] But this is your chance.

[40:01] And I'm going to jump in.

Dan McCoy

[40:02] I'm going to jump in and offer another show-specific reward.

[40:07] We will choose 10 at random to receive a drawing done by me, Dan McCoy, of the Flophouse.

[40:16] Hello.

[40:16] It's me, Dan.

[40:18] I've been doing a lot of drawing.

[40:20] You're going backwards, Dan.

[40:21] Yeah.

[40:22] During the pandemic.

[40:24] If you follow me on Twitter, you might have seen a few of my drawings.

[40:29] And I will do a, let's say, a character of the listener's choice.

[40:36] Wow.

[40:36] I'm going to request a request of, like, a character.

[40:39] Now, you can't get too detailed.

[40:40] Just tell me a character.

[40:41] Don't be like the dude standing on top of a mountain with a shovel who's got the head of a lion, but his tail is a butt.

[40:51] Or I don't know.

[40:51] I feel like you would appreciate the specifics.

Elliott Kalan

[40:53] This sounds like an amazing character, Dan.

[40:55] I don't know why you wouldn't want to draw that.

[40:56] But tail is a butt?

[40:57] I mean, come on.

[40:57] How does that even work?

[40:59] Anyway, 10 random people.

[41:01] This is your chance, 10 random people, to finally get that pregnant Sonic drawn by Dan that you've always wanted.

[41:06] Oh, God.

Dan McCoy

[41:06] Oh, my Lord.

[41:07] You're putting it in people's hearts.

Elliott Kalan

[41:09] Dan, it's already in people's head.

[41:11] Pregnant Sonic is the most popular character on the internet.

[41:13] Oh, God.

Stuart Wellington

[41:14] So, once again, for new supporters and upgrading supporters, there's a lot of great gifts available to you, including a pregnant Sonic drawn by Dan and an autographed comic by Elliot.

[41:27] That's amazing.

[41:27] Just head over to MaximumFun.org slash join.

[41:30] Thank you so much.

Elliott Kalan

[41:32] Thank you, Stuart, for doing that so well and laying out what our listeners can do if they'd like to support us at MaximumFun.org slash join.

[41:41] But, hey, guys, we've got bigger problems than that because Brian and Henry still need to collect two more hibernating has-beens, and they're running out of time.

[41:48] So, let's return to Elliot summarizes the country bears already in progress.

[41:53] When last we left the country bears, Barry and Henry had managed to collect Fred Betterhead and Zeb Zuber.

[41:58] Next, they need Tennessee O'Neill, who it turns out has become a marriage counselor, but he frequently breaks down in tears during sessions because he misses his love, Trixie, who he says ran off with a panda.

[42:09] At lunch, he tells the other bears he cannot play without her.

[42:12] And then this waitress recognizes them and starts singing their song, Kick It Into Gear, or something like that.

[42:18] And it turns into this huge musical number, and it's like a big screen version of that Chili's ad where they sing the Baby Back Ribs song.

[42:24] It is, yeah.

[42:25] It's great, yeah.

[42:25] This is like what Space Jam is to that Nike commercial.

[42:28] This scene is to that Chili's ad.

[42:30] Guys, were you as blown away as I was by how much this turned into just a restaurant fantasia, you know?

Dan McCoy

[42:35] Yeah, I mean, I enjoy seeing a thing like this where so much effort has been put into something just inherently impossible to take seriously.

[42:49] And this is a fully choreographed number.

[42:51] It's like, you know, something that would say like the Mamma Mia films really like capitalize on.

[42:56] Like the idea of like, well, this might be dumb, but hey, do you like fun?

[43:02] You know?

[43:02] And that's what this feels like.

[43:03] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[43:03] I mean, the thing is the Mamma Mia movies are doing it with real songs.

[43:06] I mean, they're all real songs, but songs that people are like, oh, yeah, this one.

[43:09] It's a jukebox musical.

[43:10] This, I assume, I don't know.

[43:11] Is this a real song?

[43:12] I assumed it was original for the movie.

Dan McCoy

[43:14] A lot of these songs were written by this guy who, let me look up his name.

[43:19] He won, he won for like eight Grammys.

Elliott Kalan

[43:22] His name's Ted Betterhead.

[43:23] He's the lead singer of the Country Bears.

Dan McCoy

[43:25] Oh, oh, of course, of course, of course.

[43:27] I'm sorry.

[43:27] He's a bear.

[43:29] No, let me look up the music.

[43:30] You keep going.

Elliott Kalan

[43:30] It's hard to write a song when you're a bear because you have paws.

[43:33] And so it's hard to play a piano and also hard to write down things.

Stuart Wellington

[43:37] Because there is that moment where they look at the note that Barry wrote when he ran away

[43:42] and the paper is covered in scratches.

Elliott Kalan

[43:46] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[43:47] And so I have to assume that at a certain point you get so rich that you hire a human to write

[43:51] for you and a human to play the keys and they just play every key on the piano until they

[43:55] hit the right one that you want.

[43:56] And it's a very laborious process.

[43:58] But you can't argue with a hit like Kicking Into Gear.

Stuart Wellington

[44:01] It was probably written by that guy from Under the Silver Lake.

Dan McCoy

[44:05] John Hyatt wrote the songs.

[44:07] John Hyatt wrote them.

[44:09] He's had eight Grammy nominations.

[44:12] He's been nominated for nine Grammy Awards.

[44:15] Wow.

[44:16] Oh, then I'm impressed.

Elliott Kalan

[44:17] Eight Grammy nominations, not impressive.

[44:18] But nine, okay, yeah.

[44:20] Now you're talking.

Dan McCoy

[44:21] Yeah.

[44:21] But he's had songs done by B.B. King, Bob Dylan, Bonnie Raitt, Shaka Khan, Eric Clapton,

[44:31] Jewel, Iggy Pop, Joan Baez.

[44:32] It just goes along and along.

[44:33] What are some of the songs?

Elliott Kalan

[44:34] Tell us some of the songs that he's written.

Dan McCoy

[44:36] I should have had this at the ready, but I don't.

Elliott Kalan

[44:39] Well, I'll continue the summary, but you keep looking up.

[44:41] I'm sure our listeners know, but I don't know.

Stuart Wellington

[44:43] The moment that this dance number lets up, they are snapped back into reality.

[44:50] They're in the diner again.

[44:51] People are not dancing anymore.

[44:52] The waitress is asking, how do you like your eggs?

[44:57] And I think it's Zeb Zuber just shouts out, hot!

[45:00] And I fucking lost it.

Elliott Kalan

[45:05] There's like, there's a lot of, I mean, I wish I didn't have to say this because it's

[45:09] the Country Bears movie.

[45:10] It's a movie based on an animatronic attraction.

[45:12] There's a lot of funny jokes in this movie.

[45:14] Like this movie is not taking itself that much more seriously than it needs to take itself.

[45:18] It feels like a real lark of a movie that the kind of thing that like would be direct

[45:23] to streaming right now because it's not big, but it's like everyone in this movie seems

[45:28] to be on the same page of like, look, we're making a Country Bears movie.

[45:30] Like, are we really going to, like, we don't have to take it seriously, but let's reach

[45:34] the level of cartoony energy.

[45:36] And there are times when, like I was talking about Christopher Walken's facial expressions,

[45:40] there's scenes with Stephen Tobolowsky where he's just hurling himself into the movie

[45:44] with such high energy.

[45:45] Nobody in the movie is like, even Queen Latifah, nobody is like, I'm too cool to be in this

[45:49] Country Bears movie.

[45:50] They're like, all right, yeah, we're making this dumb Country Bears movie.

[45:52] Let's do it.

[45:52] And there's a bunch of really funny jokes in it.

[45:54] Okay.

[45:55] Coming up soon.

[45:56] Thinking Barry has been kidnapped, the cops chase the bears out of the diner and they

[46:00] go to a car chase.

[46:01] They hide in a car wash.

[46:03] The cops go in the car wash and they get knocked around for such a long time.

[46:07] Dietrich Bader's mustache falls off and they're flying at one point from the air hoses and

[46:11] Barry, as they drive away, is just laughing at the pain these police officers are getting

Dan McCoy

[46:16] for trying to protect him.

[46:18] There's like red light on him from this car wash.

[46:22] So he looks very devilish laughing at these people.

[46:24] He looks very evil.

Elliott Kalan

[46:25] And there's one joke at the end of the sequence.

[46:27] It might be after a scene, I'm sure, where the other cop, his hair looks silly because

[46:33] of what happened.

[46:34] And Dietrich Bader goes, your hair looks ridiculous.

[46:36] And then turns his head.

[46:37] And his hair has been blown so far behind him that there's this long, it's like if Johnny

[46:41] Bravo was a parasaurolophus.

[46:43] Like his hair has gone from the top of his head to just sticking on the back.

[46:46] And I laughed so hard at that.

[46:47] I was like, you got me, movie.

[46:48] I didn't expect that.

[46:49] And that's ridiculous, psychag.

Stuart Wellington

[46:51] It's like, yeah.

[46:51] He goes to the hairstylist.

[46:53] He's like, make my hair look like the Rocketeer's helmet.

Elliott Kalan

[46:57] Yeah.

[46:57] He just brought in a snork.

[46:59] And he said, like this, but towards the back.

[47:02] That's what I want.

Stuart Wellington

[47:02] Right before that sequence, there was another dumb joke that I loved, which is as the cops

[47:08] are chasing the Country Bears bus, they spot him.

[47:12] And the bus is parked right next to a sign that is advertising bingo at 9 p.m.

[47:18] And Dietrich Bader says, bingo, nine o'clock, because he sees him.

[47:21] And it's great.

[47:21] It's a great joke.

Elliott Kalan

[47:23] Yeah, that's a good joke.

[47:25] Anyway, Barry calls Dex to say he's OK, and Dex is about to tell Barry that he's a part

[47:30] of their family, but Barry hangs up before Dex can say it.

[47:33] The bears take a moment to watch a little scene from an old Country Bears cartoon in a motel.

[47:38] And the Country Bears cartoon is very clearly like a slapdash, cheapo, like 60s or 70s cartoon.

[47:44] And when it's over, I forget which way, he just goes, that was bad.

[47:47] And that's the end of the scene.

[47:49] Yeah.

[47:50] Like, there's some people who know what they're doing making jokes in this movie.

[47:54] Anyway, luckily, they find out Trixie is performing in the bar next to their motel.

[47:59] Tennessee goes over.

[48:00] They sing a lost love ballad.

[48:02] They are instantly back in love again.

[48:03] You wonder, why did they break up in the first place?

[48:05] It doesn't matter.

[48:06] They're in love again.

[48:07] The challenges of this movie are so easily overcome, and that should be annoying, but it's

[48:11] a Country Bears movie.

[48:12] Like, I don't really want to see them struggling.

[48:14] Like, come on.

Dan McCoy

[48:14] Yeah.

[48:15] I don't want to stress out over this.

[48:17] Are these bears going to get back together and just sing their songs again?

Elliott Kalan

[48:21] They say, put your hero up a tree, throw rocks at him, and get him down from the tree.

[48:24] It's a Country Bear.

[48:25] I don't want to see him get stuck in a tree.

[48:26] I don't want to throw rocks at him.

[48:27] Just get him out of that tree.

Stuart Wellington

[48:28] And in this scene, both bears' singing voices are provided by Bonnie Raitt and Don Henley,

[48:35] who are both sitting at the bar.

Elliott Kalan

[48:37] Yeah.

[48:37] So they are watching their voices come out of bears, which must be a strange experience.

[48:41] It's horrifying.

[48:42] And this is another one of those scenes where I was just watching it, and I'm like, okay.

[48:45] So there are two more realistic than I would like bears singing this love ballad to each other.

[48:51] There are no other bears in the room.

[48:53] This is not a bear world.

[48:54] It's a strange movie.

Stuart Wellington

[48:56] It's a strange movie to watch sometimes.

[48:58] I was like, Bonnie Raitt, you succeeded.

[48:59] You've given us something to talk about.

Dan McCoy

[49:02] Speaking of song titles, just so the listener isn't hung up on the fact that there's no payoff,

[49:09] John Hyatt, the only song title I recognized was Have a Little Faith in Me, but he's done other stuff.

[49:14] How does that song go?

[49:14] I don't think I know that one.

[49:15] I don't know it well.

[49:17] Just hum a couple of bars.

[49:19] Hum a couple of bars.

[49:19] Yeah, yeah.

[49:20] Just make it.

Elliott Kalan

[49:21] Is that the one that goes, have a little faith for our lives to be over?

[49:26] Is that the Dawson's Creek song?

[49:27] Is that it?

Dan McCoy

[49:28] Yeah, it goes, have a little faith in me.

[49:31] Bum bum.

[49:32] Have a little faith in me.

Elliott Kalan

[49:33] Bum bum.

[49:34] So that's the one.

[49:35] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[49:35] Have a little, little, little, little faith.

[49:37] Yeah, sure, yeah.

[49:38] And there's canons that go off, representing faith.

[49:41] So, yeah, Bonnie Raitt, you may know her best from the band The Dire Raitts.

[49:44] Huge couple of hits from them.

[49:47] Fuck you.

[49:48] Now, I ran out of bear puns.

[49:51] So, they only need one last member of the team, Ted Betterhead.

[49:55] They call him, and he is busy polishing a Rolls Royce.

[49:57] We assume he is the successful member of the group, and he hangs up on them.

[50:01] He pretends he's going through a tunnel, hangs up on Henry.

[50:03] They show up at what they think is Ted's estate to find the man they think is his gardener, who is clearly Elton John.

[50:09] And as soon as they walk away, they say, oh, that guy looked like Elton John.

[50:13] And then later, we're just told for real, no, that was actually Elton John.

[50:15] He says, oh, Ted's down at the country club.

[50:18] And so they show up at the country club.

[50:20] Ted is very mad they're there.

[50:22] They look out of place at this rich country club because they're hicks and also fucking bears.

[50:27] But everyone, nobody treats them like they're outsiders.

[50:30] They sit down and talk to an old lady, and she's laughing it up at their jokes about salmon.

Stuart Wellington

[50:34] The fucking buffet has, like, a full trout.

Elliott Kalan

[50:37] Yeah.

[50:38] That he just takes.

[50:40] Yeah.

[50:40] That's a good point.

[50:42] But Ted is mad.

Dan McCoy

[50:43] Guys, before we move on, can we just pretend that when you said dire rates, I said something about honey for nothing?

[50:51] Yep.

[50:51] Oh, that would have been great.

[50:52] Let's just pretend that happened.

[50:54] Okay.

[50:54] Let's go, everyone.

[50:55] So let's correct the record.

[50:58] Pause it.

[50:58] Go back.

[50:59] And then just pretend when it happens that I did that.

[51:02] Yeah.

[51:03] Well, luckily, this is just the rehearsal.

Elliott Kalan

[51:04] We'll get it right for the main performance.

[51:06] Okay.

[51:07] We'll have it on the day.

[51:08] What I like is that Honey for Nothing is a joke off of the movie, which Bonnie Raitt is in.

[51:13] Right, right, right.

[51:13] So you really have to know the movie to get a connection.

[51:16] Yeah.

[51:16] No, it doesn't.

[51:17] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[51:17] Yeah.

[51:18] They're two different pun tracks, really, honestly.

[51:20] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[51:21] That taste right together.

[51:22] You got your Bonnie Raitt and my country bears.

[51:24] Bonnie Raitt is, of course, the founder of the band Raitt.

[51:26] It's a different person.

[51:28] Yep.

[51:28] Yeah.

[51:30] Now I want to do a Mad Magazine article that's just Bonnie Raitt's career, and she's in dire rates.

[51:37] She's Bonnie Raitt.

[51:38] Oh, all those things.

[51:39] Yeah.

[51:39] Anyway, the California rate sins.

[51:42] So Ted is very mad.

[51:45] He says they're pathetic.

[51:46] This is never going to happen.

[51:47] The show's never going to happen.

[51:49] Everyone kind of blames themselves, and they walk off together.

[51:51] But Fred Betterhead is mad.

[51:53] And he goes to confront Ted and finds Ted singing It's Not Unusual, Not a Country Bears

[51:57] Song.

[51:58] It turns out he's not a member of the club.

[52:00] He's part of the wedding band that's performing at the club.

[52:04] Yeah.

[52:04] And Fred goes, Ted, you're a wedding singer?

[52:08] And it's one of those things where it's like, is that a bad thing?

[52:12] It's the kind of thing where, if not for the movie The Wedding Singer, I wouldn't necessarily

[52:15] think that that was any worse.

[52:16] You're still a professional musician.

[52:18] Anyway.

[52:19] Yeah.

[52:20] Ted admits he's not rich, but he still doesn't want to be in the show for some reason.

[52:24] And Fred punches Ted until he passes out.

[52:26] Yeah.

[52:26] And they kidnap him.

[52:27] And they kidnap him.

[52:29] And I was like, that is not okay.

[52:30] This is one of two moments coming up where I was like, okay, Country Bears.

[52:34] That was too intense for the Country Bears.

[52:38] Dex tries to tell the cops that Barry is safe, but they do not believe him.

[52:42] Regardless, they disappear from the movie from this point on.

[52:44] I don't think they show up again.

Dan McCoy

[52:46] It's a shame.

[52:47] I like that scene, just like they sort of cheerfully ignore the fact that our main character

[52:52] is a bear.

[52:53] Here, they're also like, Dex is trying to tell them the truth.

[52:56] And he gets really frustrated with him.

[52:59] And after he leaves, they're like, nothing but positive about what a great kid he is.

[53:03] Yeah.

[53:04] I like their attitude, is what I'm saying.

Elliott Kalan

[53:06] Yeah.

[53:06] They're really funny.

[53:07] And in a normal movie, I would be like, okay, so the cops just disappear from the movie.

[53:12] We never see them again.

[53:13] Again, it's the Country Bears.

[53:14] Who cares?

[53:14] It's essentially, it's kind of one step up from a sketch movie.

[53:18] Like, who cares?

[53:19] So Ted still doesn't want to do the show, even when he's on the tour bus, for very vague

[53:22] reasons.

[53:23] He's just kind of like, I'm the only one who's organized around here.

[53:26] You guys aren't organized.

[53:27] And we're not a family.

[53:28] And we never were a family.

[53:30] Which is cold, considering his brother is in the band.

[53:33] Yes.

[53:34] Part of his family is there.

[53:35] And Barry is like, but your family are the people that, you're right, this isn't a family.

[53:39] Because your family are the people who always, I don't know, believe in you or whatever.

[53:43] And he realizes, just like my family, hey, I do have a family.

[53:45] He runs all the way back home.

[53:47] It's great.

[53:48] Yeah.

[53:48] What can only assume?

Dan McCoy

[53:49] Don't see any buses or trains or anything.

[53:51] You just see him running.

[53:52] And then he's at home.

[53:53] And his mom is so excited to hear his voice that she drops the pie that she's holding on

[54:00] the floor.

[54:00] And I'm like, but the pie.

[54:02] Like, you could have just, like, it doesn't take any extra energy to put down that pie

[54:05] that you spent some time cooking.

[54:06] But Dan, she's got so much pie.

Elliott Kalan

[54:07] It's established earlier on that when she's worried, she bakes things.

[54:10] So she's constantly baking throughout the rest of the movie.

[54:12] Yeah.

[54:13] I was really worried about the hell of that pie.

[54:13] I imagine Stephen Tobolowsky, he saw the pie on the floor and he was like, oh, thank

[54:17] God.

[54:17] I couldn't eat another pie.

[54:19] Thank goodness.

[54:19] And also, he's so excited.

[54:21] When he sees Barry, he's just like, bleh!

[54:23] Like, it's the most, it's the biggest response.

[54:26] But, like, if my son showed up, if my son I love disappeared and then showed up, I'd

[54:30] react that way, too.

[54:31] I'd drop a pie.

[54:32] I don't care.

[54:33] Dan, your child, who you love, who you gave birth to, not really because he's a bear.

Dan McCoy

[54:38] You hear the kid.

[54:39] You know the kid's okay.

[54:40] Just use the extra second to put the pie down on the counter.

[54:44] You're just so excited.

[54:45] If only so you don't have to clean up that pie later.

Elliott Kalan

[54:48] A small price to pay to not have to just be able to hug that bear kid.

Dan McCoy

[54:52] You're going to have ants all over the place.

[54:54] That's the problem.

Elliott Kalan

[54:55] Do you think there's not ants in that house already?

[54:56] You got a bear leaving honey all over the place?

Dan McCoy

[54:58] The bear probably eats the ants.

[54:59] Yeah.

[54:59] They're delicious.

Elliott Kalan

[55:00] The bear eats the ants.

[55:01] They love it.

[55:02] Anyway, Barry goes back.

[55:04] Fred on the bus finds an essay that Barry left behind where he says the country bears,

[55:09] together as a group, are his heroes.

[55:11] Not one by one.

[55:12] Together.

[55:12] And Ted Betterhead shows up at Barry's house and apologizes.

[55:16] And they decide the show is on.

[55:18] Uh-oh.

[55:19] But Walken stole the bus.

[55:21] And then he imprisons the other bears at gunpoint.

[55:24] And he has a bandolier of trank darts.

[55:27] So I guess it's implied as a trank darts.

[55:28] But he just has a gun in his hand pushing them into a jail cell.

[55:32] And I was like, this is the second moment where I was like, this is too much country bears.

[55:35] I don't like the idea that the country bears are being held at gunpoint.

[55:37] This is not good.

[55:39] And this is when Christopher Walken reveals why he wants to tear their house down or their country hauls so much.

[55:46] Stu, Dan, who wants to sell the dark secret that is lying behind the hatred of Reed Thimple?

Stuart Wellington

[55:53] Well, he starts by unbuttoning his shirt.

[55:56] And I was like, does he have an embarrassing country bears tattoo?

[56:00] Does he have a horrible scar caused by a bear attack?

[56:04] What could it be?

Dan McCoy

[56:06] Yeah, but it turns out he's the fartist from earlier in the movie.

[56:11] Like, doesn't one of the bears say, oh, the farting boy or something like that?

[56:15] Something like that.

[56:15] Just to put a hat on it.

Stuart Wellington

[56:16] He said, you, like, what was it?

[56:19] Like, you've ruined 30 years of my life or something.

[56:22] And I was like, wait a minute.

[56:24] How old was he when he was a farting boy?

[56:26] Because Christopher Walken looks like he's...

Dan McCoy

[56:28] I was making a lot of assumptions about the role of, like, a farting musician.

[56:33] That was the issue I had.

[56:35] Cultural landscape.

Elliott Kalan

[56:36] The idea that if he had only won that talent contest, fart music would have been the next big thing.

[56:42] That would have been the wave he would ride in recording history.

[56:44] And crazier things have happened.

[56:46] A guy sped up his voice and pretended he was a group of chipmunks and had several number one hits.

[56:52] So strange things could happen.

[56:53] But also the idea, like, if being a farting musician was that close to the surface of bubbling up, you would have had another shot.

[57:00] The one talent.

[57:01] Like, just keep trying.

[57:02] Just keep pushing.

[57:03] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[57:03] You know?

Dan McCoy

[57:04] No, no, no.

[57:04] He's blaming others for a problem that's really his own fault.

Elliott Kalan

[57:09] His own...

[57:10] He let one rejection shoot him down, and you can't do that.

[57:12] If you're going to be a creative professional, you've got to get used to...

[57:14] You know, Reid Thimple, listen to me.

[57:16] You've got to get used to rejection.

[57:17] And all the Reid Thimples out there, all the fart musicians out there, you can't let one no crash your dreams.

[57:22] A hundred no's, maybe it's time to look for something else.

[57:24] But you can't let that no crash you because you're going to face rejection, you know?

[57:27] You've got to really need to do it.

Dan McCoy

[57:29] I mean, not only is he a bad, like, farting musician, though,

[57:32] but he's a bad, like, evil businessman because the Country Bears, at this point,

[57:39] the building, the grand old Country Bears Opry, whatever it's called,

[57:44] is like six years behind on its payments.

[57:48] So it seems like only to get around to revenge now seems like laziness on Christopher Walken's part.

Stuart Wellington

[57:54] He's a bad, farting musician.

[57:56] He's a bad, evil businessman.

[57:58] But is he a good, farting businessman?

Elliott Kalan

[58:01] Yes, he's one of the top farting businessmen.

[58:03] In the ranks of farting businessmen, it's just him and Warren Buffett at the top.

[58:07] Yeah, at the very top.

[58:08] Because, look, that guy's old.

[58:10] You've got to believe that there's a lot of stuff coming out of him.

[58:13] And it's thanks to MaxFun pledge.

[58:15] Thank you, Dan.

[58:16] Thanks to MaxFun's pledge supporters that I can say whatever I want.

[58:19] I can say whatever fart stuff about Warren Buffett I want,

[58:21] and not worry about offending the bosses of the advertisers.

Dan McCoy

[58:25] Anyway.

[58:26] Oh, we can't do any Warren Buffett jokes because Old Country Buffett is one of our sponsors.

[58:34] Of course, Warren Buffett's famous company.

Elliott Kalan

[58:37] Yeah, yeah.

[58:37] Berkshire Hathaway just bought a majority stake in MaxFun,

[58:40] and that's why we can't make any more jokes about Warren Butt Fit.

[58:43] Yeah.

[58:44] Warren Butt Fit is the guy where any pair of pants he puts on,

[58:47] they're like the traveling pants.

[58:49] That looks great.

[58:49] They just fit perfectly.

[58:50] They look so good.

[58:50] Sample size, this guy.

[58:52] Perfect butt fit.

[58:53] I mean, a little loose in the thighs,

[58:55] but otherwise it fits perfectly on the butt.

[58:58] He's got thin thighs.

Dan McCoy

[58:59] How's the bunghole area, LBJ?

Elliott Kalan

[59:02] It's too tight.

[59:03] Too tight.

[59:04] I've got to call up Hagar and have them make it a little bit looser.

[59:07] The horrible?

[59:08] Hagar the horrible.

[59:10] The famous recording of Lyndon Johnson.

[59:13] He's calling Hagar the horrible the Viking from the comics

[59:15] who owned Hagar Slacks to tell him about how tight they were.

Dan McCoy

[59:22] Someone please diagram what happened over the last two minutes.

[59:26] Impossible.

[59:27] Put it in a time capsule and bury it in your yard.

[59:30] Bury it in your yard.

Elliott Kalan

[59:32] Oh, shit.

[59:33] So here's what I'm going to say about Dan, him as a businessman.

[59:37] Yes, at any point in the last five and a half years, let's say,

[59:39] he could have foreclosed on that haul.

[59:41] But also, they're six years behind on rent.

[59:44] It's only $20,000, and that's a big haul.

[59:46] I know.

Elliott Kalan

[59:46] So they locked in their mortgage at amazing rates,

[59:48] and that's what you've got to do.

[59:49] Lock in that mortgage at a good rate.

[59:51] Refi, if you have to, to lock in that rate.

[59:53] It's worth stacking the extra years onto the end of the schedule.

Dan McCoy

[59:56] Elliot, I love that you're thinking about this

[59:58] because I have to tell the story that Audrey, re-watching this,

[1:00:03] also for the second time with me,

[1:00:05] took a moment to do the math at the end

[1:00:08] to make sure that one concert could have paid back the mortgage on this property.

[1:00:14] So, like, you know, you guys are concerned with the economics of that.

[1:00:16] Yeah, I was like, how much were the tickets?

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:18] How many people are in that venue?

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:21] I think she's, it worked out.

[1:00:23] There's no way you can fit more than, what, 400 people in that venue, you know?

[1:00:27] Oh, you think so?

[1:00:28] I think you can get up to five or six.

[1:00:30] I mean, I don't know if bears have to follow fire occupancy limit rules, you know,

[1:00:34] but they're bears.

[1:00:35] Anyway, law doesn't apply to bears.

[1:00:37] At any moment in the movie, they could have just said,

[1:00:39] human law does not apply to bears.

[1:00:40] Yeah, they break every human law of bears.

[1:00:42] No, no, just, that's, you're thinking of a cat.

[1:00:44] What?

[1:00:44] Cats do that.

[1:00:45] One cat in particular, every human law, even the big ones.

[1:00:48] Anyway, so the show is on, but Walkin stole the bus.

[1:00:52] They're caught at gunpoint.

[1:00:53] Like Regicide.

[1:00:54] What?

Dan McCoy

[1:00:55] Sorry, like Regicide.

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:57] Like Regicide, yeah.

[1:00:58] You know that, well, what's the name of that cat?

[1:01:03] Macavity?

[1:01:04] Macavity.

[1:01:05] I should say Moriarty, but Macavity is the cat version.

[1:01:07] Macavity's just ripping off a mattress tag and stuffing it into a queen's mouth to kill her.

[1:01:12] Like, he's breaking every law.

Dan McCoy

[1:01:14] Yeah, he's got his little pad.

[1:01:17] He checks off two for one.

Elliott Kalan

[1:01:18] Mm-hmm.

[1:01:19] He's like, he's taking an endangered sea turtle off of their egg laying place and just throwing it through a plate glass window of the store.

[1:01:26] There's just so many laws he can break all at once.

[1:01:28] Anyway, so they have to save all the rest of the band.

[1:01:33] Barry's family, they find out that Barry's tracking collar that Dex showed him, he left it on the bus.

[1:01:38] I don't know why he had it with him.

[1:01:39] They use that, they release that to track them down.

[1:01:41] There's a very long, kind of boring sequence of Ted is in a boat being pulled on a trailer by the car, by the family's van, and he's almost always falling out of it.

[1:01:52] It is the Howard the Duck biplane sequence of this movie.

[1:01:56] Yeah, it's the only one part where I zoned out, really.

[1:01:58] Yeah.

[1:01:59] Luckily, the boat, eventually the boat bursts through the wall and frees the other bears.

[1:02:04] The bears, Christopher Walken at that point has abandoned the bears.

[1:02:07] I don't know where he is.

[1:02:08] I guess he's at the hall.

[1:02:09] They go to the hall, but there's no audience there.

[1:02:12] The place is deadly quiet.

[1:02:14] They catch Christopher Walken.

[1:02:16] This part is a little unclear.

[1:02:17] Paying off Alex Rocco, I guess, to not promote the show.

[1:02:21] But then when they're like, Rip, you didn't promote the show?

[1:02:23] Christopher Walken is like, I didn't, I had nothing, I don't know.

[1:02:26] Look, he did it.

[1:02:27] But then there's no audience.

[1:02:29] But then it turns out, seconds later, there is an audience.

[1:02:32] They just had to park in the back behind the Country Bear Hall.

Stuart Wellington

[1:02:35] Yeah, because Big Al didn't want him messing up his lawn.

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:39] Because Big Al has a running gag about how important his lawn is to him.

[1:02:43] The audience floods in.

[1:02:44] Christopher Walken makes the greatest angry, surprised faces.

[1:02:47] It is children's pantomime theater, like, all over.

[1:02:51] And then they saved the hall.

[1:02:53] They named Barry an official Country Bear.

[1:02:54] And they play a whole song.

[1:02:55] And Barry gets a guitar solo.

[1:02:57] And then over the credits, you get real-life testimonials from the real-life musicians

[1:03:02] who are in the movie about how important the bears are to them.

[1:03:04] And then, as mentioned...

Dan McCoy

[1:03:06] The musicians, with all the energy of someone who didn't, like, really fully read their contract.

[1:03:11] And it's like, ugh, now I've got to pretend that the Country Bears are a fucking musical influence on me,

[1:03:17] an actual music star.

[1:03:18] Okay, sure.

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:19] And this stuff seems fairly ad-libbed.

[1:03:22] Barely, yeah.

[1:03:23] Barely ad-libbed, yeah.

[1:03:25] And this is when Exhibit and Wyclef Jean show up.

[1:03:29] I don't think they were in the movie before this.

[1:03:31] So I wonder if they had scenes that were cut off.

[1:03:34] Cut out.

[1:03:34] Unless I just didn't recognize them.

Dan McCoy

[1:03:35] Just imagine they got caught coming out of the bathroom on the line.

[1:03:40] And they're like, hey, you want to say something about the Country Bears?

[1:03:42] Sure, whatever.

Stuart Wellington

[1:03:43] Well, and there's...

[1:03:44] With some of the testimonials, I get the implication that they were suggesting that at one point

[1:03:49] the Country Bears dabbled into hip-hop.

[1:03:51] And I got increasingly nervous they were going to have a Country Bears hip-hop song,

[1:03:56] which luckily did not manifest.

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:58] Yeah, luckily that doesn't happen.

[1:03:59] That would be too much to bear.

[1:04:01] Unbearable.

[1:04:02] And then, as mentioned before, Disney Plus then recommends Brother Bear,

[1:04:05] because I guess bears are the only thing I'm into now.

[1:04:08] Because I just love anything with bears in it.

[1:04:10] I want to watch the bear.

[1:04:12] I want to watch Jack the Bear.

[1:04:13] I want to watch everything with bear in the title.

Dan McCoy

[1:04:15] You know?

[1:04:16] Uh-huh.

[1:04:17] Mm-hmm.

[1:04:18] The Witches of East Bear.

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:19] All everything.

[1:04:20] All the stuff with bears.

[1:04:21] East Bear?

[1:04:23] Yeah, the Witches of East Bears.

[1:04:24] It's the Witches of Eastwick, but they're all bears.

Stuart Wellington

[1:04:26] Uh-huh.

[1:04:26] While browsing through the Bear Necessities catalog.

Dan McCoy

[1:04:28] It's actually the Witches of Breastwick, but they're all bears.

[1:04:33] That's the weird part.

[1:04:34] It's based on the takeoff.

[1:04:34] It seems like the titles got mixed up a little bit.

[1:04:37] Yeah.

[1:04:38] I'm glad you guys took this journey with me to the Country Bears jamboree.

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:43] I'm glad we had this journey through Country Bears legend.

[1:04:47] We got a little snippet of taste of the different porn habits of Stu and Dan.

[1:04:51] Stu being more of a hardcore internet guy and Dan being more of a Cinemax guy.

[1:04:55] Dan, I will say, you watched this movie and then you were like, guys, you got to see this

[1:05:01] Country Bears movie.

[1:05:02] You wouldn't stop.

[1:05:02] It was not since Cats have you talked about a movie this much.

[1:05:04] I was like, what about Minari?

[1:05:06] And you were like, I don't give a shit.

[1:05:07] Country Bears.

[1:05:08] And then watching it, I was like, I get it now.

[1:05:11] I get it.

[1:05:11] This is a silly movie, but it is a much better movie than a movie based on the Country Bears

[1:05:17] has any right to, just in terms of joke quality.

Dan McCoy

[1:05:20] Well, let's get into the final judgments.

[1:05:23] Good, bad, bad, bad movie you kind of like.

[1:05:26] The thing about this movie is like, it bears a similarity to Cats in that.

[1:05:31] It does bear a similarity to Cats.

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:33] Still getting points.

Dan McCoy

[1:05:34] And that it's a musical about actors in furry outfits or CGI in Cats case.

[1:05:43] And they both have a similarity in that so much work is put into what is essentially not

[1:05:52] the greatest idea for a movie.

[1:05:54] And in Cats, they make all the wrong decisions.

[1:05:57] Like, the Country Bears, I think, basically actually works on its own terms because it

[1:06:03] makes all the right decisions for, like, an untenable center.

Elliott Kalan

[1:06:06] I mean, Cats is attempting to say something about the human condition through the form of

[1:06:11] singing Cats, and it fails miserably.

[1:06:14] Whereas the Country Bears is like, let's make something a kid can watch for an hour and a

[1:06:18] half, you know, and it totally succeeds.

Dan McCoy

[1:06:21] The director of this, this was his first and only feature.

[1:06:26] One assumes because this feature was the Country Bears, which did not do well.

[1:06:30] But he was a writer for many episodes of Animaniacs.

[1:06:36] And the writer of this most recent credit was Game Night, which is, you know, a very funny

[1:06:41] comedy.

[1:06:43] So, like, they were, you know, great cast, great songs.

[1:06:46] Like, the people behind this knew what they were doing.

[1:06:49] And what they were doing was making a movie of the Country Bears.

Elliott Kalan

[1:06:52] I don't know if I'd say great songs.

[1:06:54] I would say the songs are fine.

Dan McCoy

[1:06:56] I didn't...

[1:06:56] The songs are better than you would expect from a Country Bears movie.

Elliott Kalan

[1:06:58] You would think that if they're doing...

[1:07:00] I'm bringing it on a curve.

Stuart Wellington

[1:07:01] You would think if they're doing their reunion show, they wouldn't open with a fucking ballad,

[1:07:04] right?

[1:07:05] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:07:07] I will say, the songs are...

[1:07:08] These are songs I would see hearing on the radio.

[1:07:11] Like, yeah, they're not bad songs.

Dan McCoy

[1:07:14] Yeah.

[1:07:14] Well, anyway, my point is, I would not say...

[1:07:17] Like, don't expect that this is anything other than a goddamn dumb movie, but it's a movie

[1:07:22] I kind of like.

[1:07:23] What do you guys have to say?

Elliott Kalan

[1:07:24] Watching the movie, it was fairly early on that I was going to be like...

[1:07:27] I was like, am I going to have to really go and record something for public where I say

[1:07:32] that the Country Bears is a movie I kind of like?

[1:07:34] And by the end of it, I was like, why should I be ashamed?

[1:07:36] Yeah, sure.

[1:07:37] Country Bears.

[1:07:37] Kind of liked it.

[1:07:38] It's not...

[1:07:39] Again, if you're going to watch a movie, I'd prefer you watch the movie I'm going to

[1:07:42] recommend at the end of the episode, which I think is a great movie.

[1:07:45] But if you're looking for something to do with kids on Disney+, and it's a rainy Sunday

[1:07:50] afternoon, why not throw the Country Bears on there?

[1:07:52] You know, go ahead.

[1:07:53] It's fine.

[1:07:54] They might have some nightmares about those bear costumes, but hopefully not.

[1:07:58] Stu, what do you say?

Stuart Wellington

[1:07:59] Okay.

[1:08:00] So, just to pull back the curtain on my viewing habits lately, I'm just trying to catch a

[1:08:04] little bit of movies when I can.

[1:08:06] Life's hard for old Stuart.

[1:08:08] So, I watched the first half of this movie in between opening the bar and closing the bar.

[1:08:15] And when I went back to work, I found myself wishing I could just go home and finish Country

[1:08:21] Bears.

[1:08:22] Wow.

[1:08:23] I kept finding myself thinking about it, thinking about that little bear guy running around,

[1:08:30] running down the street, and thinking about how the emotional climax of this movie involves

[1:08:34] a performer in a bear costume running down a street, and how hot and sweaty that must have

[1:08:42] been for him.

[1:08:43] It's a lot of fun.

[1:08:45] There's some genuinely good jokes.

[1:08:47] I think the choice to make them animatronic instead of some kind of 2002-level CGI effects,

[1:08:59] which would have been horrifying.

[1:09:02] I think it was the right move, even though it's super weird.

[1:09:05] I think it's way more fun to watch these animatronic bear faces.

[1:09:09] Yes.

[1:09:09] Yeah.

[1:09:10] And people in big bear costumes.

[1:09:12] Country Bears, good movie.

[1:09:13] Thumbs up.

[1:09:15] Nice.

Elliott Kalan

[1:09:15] Kind of liked.

[1:09:16] I was talking about this to Sammy, and he was like, is this the movie you likes the most

[1:09:20] of any you've seen on the Flophouse?

[1:09:21] And I'm like, no.

[1:09:23] It can't be.

[1:09:24] Can it?

[1:09:25] And I don't think it is.

[1:09:26] I think there was still that Halle Berry kidnapping movie where she has to chase after the people

[1:09:31] who kidnapped her kid.

[1:09:31] That was a tense movie.

[1:09:32] But otherwise, you know, it's pretty.

[1:09:35] As far as Flophouse movies, this is one of the better ones, which is the faintest of praise.

Dan McCoy

[1:09:43] Well, so if you rely on our show, the Flophouse, to bring you the hottest news about how the

[1:09:52] Country Bears movie from 2002 is actually pretty fun, then maybe you would like to consider

[1:09:58] joining Maximum Fun.

[1:10:00] Now, I will say, so during this time, we have been collecting sort of testimonials from people,

[1:10:10] and I will ask Jordan to put some of the ones that you recorded in your own voices after

[1:10:17] this break.

[1:10:18] But I also, you know, have gotten a lot from people who wrote in.

[1:10:23] And I was going to read something here, but honestly, like, the thing is, like, everything

[1:10:29] is so sweet and so personal that I felt like a little weird sharing because, like, I am almost

[1:10:37] embarrassed by, like, we have meant something to people, and that is very sweet.

[1:10:43] And so I just kind of, rather than getting too much into any one person's very personal

[1:10:50] sort of, like, sharing, I want to say, like, the themes that I saw is that, like, along with

[1:10:54] the laughter, people have looked for us in this time, especially this last year, for a lot

[1:11:01] of comfort, you know, like, just like a comfort lesson, something that makes them feel safe,

[1:11:07] something that uplifts them, something that feels like it's reliably there when they feel

[1:11:11] bad.

[1:11:13] Listening to friends talk to one another in this time where there's less socializing helps

[1:11:19] them not feel alone.

[1:11:21] And, you know, I get it because I also am a MaxFun listener.

[1:11:25] When I was going through worse times than I feel I am, even now, in the case of all this

[1:11:31] pandemic stuff, when I was going through bad times, podcasts were there for me.

[1:11:36] I felt comforted.

[1:11:38] I got to, I've gotten to meet people through Maximum Fun, make friendships with them.

[1:11:44] All of our fellow podcasters I've met have been so wonderful.

[1:11:48] And if this is valuable to you, it is a good thing to support.

[1:11:55] Like, people, this is how we make our money off of the show.

[1:11:59] And as much as we do love it, at this point in our lives, there may not be time in our lives

[1:12:05] for it if we weren't making money off of it.

[1:12:08] On top of that, it is a genuine support.

[1:12:13] I have been fortunate enough to keep my job through the pandemic.

[1:12:16] But as Elliot said, you know, like, work has been spotty.

[1:12:21] Stuart is a small business owner of a bar.

[1:12:23] This is not a great time for bars.

[1:12:25] Don't recommend it.

[1:12:26] Having the podcast.

[1:12:27] Yeah.

[1:12:28] Having the podcast has honestly, like, kept us afloat during this time.

[1:12:33] So if you visit MaximumFun.org slash join, you can see all the ways you can give.

[1:12:40] Most people choose $5 or $10 per month.

[1:12:44] And some support $20 a month or more.

[1:12:46] Any level that you feel comfortable at, please, you know, choose what works for you.

[1:12:53] You can boost your membership between levels if there's a specific amount you'd prefer to give.

[1:12:57] And, you know, I just want to say it's been a tough time for so many of us.

[1:13:01] But your support helps us continue.

[1:13:05] Your listenership is, you know, beyond the financial support even.

[1:13:09] The fact that we know that there's an audience who this is important to is important to us.

[1:13:15] And has become, like, a weird sort of, like, honor to be able to visit with all of you.

[1:13:24] So if you would like to, and if you can, please go ahead and join at MaximumFun.org forward slash join.

[1:13:34] Ryan, Knoxville, Tennessee.

S4

[1:13:36] I started listening to the Flop House quite a few years ago.

[1:13:41] The thing that I appreciate the most, other than just the humor of the show, is how honest they are with dealing with their own mental health.

[1:13:51] It was at a time where I felt embarrassed to have to take medication for it.

[1:13:57] I felt like an outcast as, like, a loser.

[1:14:00] And hearing these guys be open about it and to see the success that they've had really was inspiring.

[1:14:10] And it's really helped me develop more of my own voice and start my own podcast called VRBAFK.

[1:14:17] Yeah, I'm going to plug it.

[1:14:19] But seriously, I'm so thankful to have the show, especially this last year with the pandemic and everything seemed just nuts.

[1:14:28] They helped me get through the year, some really good episodes.

[1:14:32] And I'm grateful that the show's around.

[1:14:37] I guess now I say bye.

[1:14:38] And now we will do letters from listeners like you.

Elliott Kalan

[1:14:45] You know, the letter segment is kind of like its own little magical world.

[1:14:50] Let's say you were in a forest and there were trees that had doors on them, doors that led you to different towns, to different places.

[1:14:57] There's a door shaped like a letter.

[1:14:59] Why?

[1:14:59] Let's open it up and see what's inside.

[1:15:02] Bump, bump, bump, ba-da-dump, bump, bump, da-da-dun, dun, dun, dun, da-da-dun, da-da-dun, da-da-dun.

[1:15:12] Listeners of every age, would you like to hear something strange?

[1:15:17] Stay tuned here and you will spy letters for the Flophouse guys.

[1:15:22] This is letter time, this is letter time.

[1:15:24] Questions we don't know how to answer.

[1:15:26] This is letter time, buckle up for letter time

[1:15:29] Ask us about bits we barely remember

[1:15:31] I am the letter with a personal question

[1:15:34] Makes you squirm, you're uncomfortable with emotion

[1:15:36] I am the letter all about Dan

[1:15:38] Saying he's cool because it was written by Dan

[1:15:41] This is letter time, everybody letter time

[1:15:43] Letter time, letter time, letter time

[1:15:46] In this time we read letters

[1:15:49] I kind of wish this song was better

[1:15:52] La la la la letter time

[1:15:54] La la la la la letter time

[1:15:56] Letter time, la la la

[1:15:57] It's letter time, letter time, la la la

[1:15:59] I'm wasting time, wasting all of your time

[1:16:02] Whee!

Stuart Wellington

[1:16:03] So that was the letter time song

[1:16:05] You know, I was kind of down on that song

[1:16:06] But, you know, it won me over by the end

[1:16:08] I like it

[1:16:09] Okay, good

[1:16:10] I think the we really

[1:16:11] Yeah, the we really

Dan McCoy

[1:16:12] Yeah, the juat de vivre

[1:16:13] I mean, that's another reason we needed a little more money

[1:16:17] For the Max Fund Drive, though

[1:16:18] To pay off Danny Elfman

[1:16:19] Pay Danny Elfman, yeah

[1:16:20] Especially when I go, what's this?

[1:16:23] What's this?

[1:16:24] There's letters everywhere

Elliott Kalan

[1:16:25] There's questions in the air

[1:16:27] I can't believe my eyes

[1:16:28] I must be dreaming

[1:16:29] Or my ears

[1:16:30] It's letters time

[1:16:30] That's not fair

[1:16:32] What does Danny Elfman need money for?

Stuart Wellington

[1:16:34] To buy Lembus bread?

Dan McCoy

[1:16:36] This is from Elfman

[1:16:39] This is from Elijah

[1:16:41] Last name was held

Elliott Kalan

[1:16:42] There must be something in the mail

[1:16:45] There must be something in the mail

Elliott Kalan

[1:16:45] Oh my gosh

[1:16:45] That says that letter time's at hand

[1:16:49] And though I'd like to hear this letter

[1:16:52] Continue down

[1:16:53] Sure

Dan McCoy

[1:16:56] So

Elliott Kalan

[1:16:57] Reading letters

[1:16:59] Reading letters

[1:17:01] Is so fine

[1:17:02] Guys, I have to sing these songs to my son

[1:17:04] Every night before he goes to bed

[1:17:05] They're stuck in my head

Dan McCoy

[1:17:06] Yeah

[1:17:09] So

[1:17:09] This letter is from Elijah

[1:17:12] Last name withheld

[1:17:13] Elijah Wood

[1:17:13] Who writes

[1:17:15] Dear Floppers

[1:17:16] I have been listening through the back catalog recently

[1:17:17] And had the pleasure of hearing your

[1:17:19] Dr. Doolittle episode

[1:17:21] In said episode

[1:17:22] Elliot speculates as to whether

[1:17:24] The testimony of a stick insect

[1:17:26] Would be acceptable in court

[1:17:27] And wondered if the defense

[1:17:30] Would be able to

[1:17:31] Successfully impeach the animal's character

[1:17:33] As a flop listener

[1:17:34] Who went to law school in England

[1:17:35] I hope I can offer some clarity

[1:17:38] In response to this definitely

[1:17:39] Serious legal inquiry

[1:17:41] Yeah, thank you

[1:17:42] After a thorough look at the case law

[1:17:47] I found that there's actually precedent

[1:17:49] For an animal's appearance

[1:17:51] Testimoning the space being accepted

[1:17:53] In English courts

[1:17:54] And here there is a content warning

[1:17:57] For some misogyny

[1:18:01] And general dodginess

[1:18:02] In 1677

[1:18:04] A dog was brought to testify

[1:18:07] In a case of a woman accused

[1:18:09] Of having sex with said dog

[1:18:11] The dog

[1:18:12] Quote

[1:18:13] Owned her by wagging his tail

[1:18:14] And making motions

[1:18:15] As if it were to kiss her

[1:18:16] Now the poor woman's defense

[1:18:19] Was that there was malice

[1:18:21] In the witnesses

[1:18:21] The dog presumably included

[1:18:23] But this attempt to impeach

[1:18:24] The character of the dog

[1:18:25] Failed

[1:18:26] And the woman was convicted

[1:18:27] So in bladed answer

[1:18:29] To Elliot's question

[1:18:30] It seems

[1:18:31] Given the low threshold

[1:18:32] In this case

[1:18:32] It is at least theoretically possible

[1:18:34] A stick insect's testimony

[1:18:36] Could have been used

[1:18:37] To execute Michael Sheen

[1:18:38] And Dr. Doolittle

[1:18:39] In real English legal history

[1:18:42] The court system

[1:18:43] Was much more professional

[1:18:43] By Victorian times

[1:18:45] But also

[1:18:46] There were no talking animals

[1:18:47] In real history either

[1:18:48] However

[1:18:50] Real English law

[1:18:51] Is unlikely to make

[1:18:52] Much appearance in movies

[1:18:53] English law

[1:18:54] Is notoriously poorly depicted

[1:18:55] In British media

[1:18:57] Because of the overwhelming

[1:18:58] Influence of Americanization

[1:18:59] On the non-lawyer

[1:19:01] British creatives

[1:19:02] Who produce things

[1:19:03] For example

[1:19:04] British newspapers

[1:19:05] Readily illustrate stories

[1:19:06] About court proceedings

[1:19:07] With stock photos

[1:19:08] Of gavels

[1:19:08] Despite the fact

[1:19:09] That gavels

[1:19:10] Have never been used

[1:19:11] In English and Welsh courts

[1:19:12] The hilarious

[1:19:13] Law and Order UK

[1:19:14] Just recycled US scripts

[1:19:16] Without trying to make it

[1:19:18] Fit the legal system

[1:19:19] For a start

[1:19:20] There's no plea bargaining

[1:19:21] Across the pond

[1:19:22] And the Academy Award

Elliott Kalan

[1:19:23] Do they wear wigs

[1:19:23] In the show?

[1:19:25] That would be awesome

Dan McCoy

[1:19:25] They gotta wear wigs

[1:19:27] That's the most important thing

[1:19:29] And the Academy Award

[1:19:30] Nominated in the name

[1:19:31] Of the father

[1:19:31] Despite being based

[1:19:32] On a true story

[1:19:33] Decided to just import

[1:19:36] American court tropes

[1:19:37] Including showing a solicitor

[1:19:38] Without higher court rights

[1:19:40] Of audience

[1:19:41] Arguing in place

[1:19:43] Of a barrister

[1:19:44] Translation

[1:19:44] Yeah

[1:19:45] Translation

[1:19:46] Wigless lawyer

[1:19:47] Incorrectly shown

[1:19:48] In the position

[1:19:48] Of a wigged lawyer

[1:19:49] Thank you for the translation

[1:19:51] That was helpful

[1:19:52] This leads me to a question

[1:19:54] What are the floppers

[1:19:55] Favorite ridiculous

[1:19:56] Courtroom antics

[1:19:57] In film

[1:19:57] To rival a stick insect

[1:19:59] Taking the stand

[1:20:00] As a witness

[1:20:01] Even if the law

[1:20:02] Isn't accurate

[1:20:03] There's nothing so much fun

[1:20:05] As a good kangaroo court

[1:20:06] On screen

[1:20:07] Especially if an actor

[1:20:08] Is willing to embrace

[1:20:09] The large ham trope

[1:20:11] Yours flopped fully

[1:20:13] Elijah last name withheld

[1:20:14] When I was thinking

[1:20:15] About this

[1:20:16] I couldn't think of

[1:20:17] Unfortunately

[1:20:18] A courtroom scene

[1:20:19] I'm sure

[1:20:19] There are many

[1:20:21] That I have

[1:20:22] Guffawed at

[1:20:23] With incredulousness

[1:20:25] But

[1:20:26] I did think of

[1:20:27] Double Jeopardy

[1:20:28] The movie

[1:20:29] That is based on

[1:20:31] Such a

[1:20:31] Huge misunderstanding

[1:20:33] Of what the

[1:20:33] Double Jeopardy

[1:20:34] Law would be

[1:20:35] Saying that

[1:20:36] Since she was already

[1:20:38] Framed for her

[1:20:39] Husband's murder

[1:20:40] She can now

[1:20:41] Murder him

[1:20:41] And the courts

[1:20:43] Cannot

[1:20:43] Untouchable

[1:20:44] Yeah

Elliott Kalan

[1:20:45] It's the perfect crime

[1:20:47] All you have to do

[1:20:47] Is go to jail for it already

Stuart Wellington

[1:20:48] I feel like my favorite

[1:20:50] Courtroom movie

[1:20:51] Probably doesn't hold up

[1:20:52] To actual

[1:20:53] Legal rules

[1:20:54] And that of course

[1:20:55] Is My Cousin Vinny

[1:20:56] I love it so much

[1:20:57] I've seen it a million times

Elliott Kalan

[1:20:58] What I've always heard

[1:21:00] Is that My Cousin Vinny

[1:21:00] Is one of the more accurate

[1:21:02] Courtroom movies

[1:21:03] Yes

[1:21:03] So it's not

[1:21:04] It's not

[1:21:05] Out of order

[1:21:06] That's how she says it

[1:21:08] No

[1:21:08] The two Utes

[1:21:09] Had some excellent

[1:21:10] Legal representation

[1:21:12] Oh man

[1:21:12] I love it

[1:21:13] It wasn't until

[1:21:14] I saw My Cousin Vinny

[1:21:15] That I realized that

[1:21:16] You have to share

[1:21:17] Your evidence

[1:21:18] With the opposing side

[1:21:20] Yeah

[1:21:20] That there's the whole

[1:21:21] Discovery process

[1:21:22] Where you have to show them

[1:21:23] What you're going to argue with

[1:21:24] Because there's so many

[1:21:25] Courtroom movies

[1:21:27] Or TV shows

[1:21:27] Where there's a surprise

[1:21:28] Last minute witness

[1:21:29] Who like

[1:21:30] Brings in some

[1:21:31] And as a lawyer

[1:21:32] You're not supposed to

[1:21:33] And it's always allowed

[1:21:33] It's always allowed

[1:21:35] And it's bad lawyering

[1:21:36] For you

[1:21:36] Because you don't know

[1:21:37] What they're going to say

[1:21:37] Like a lawyer is not

[1:21:38] As a lawyer

[1:21:39] They tell you

[1:21:40] Never ask a question

[1:21:41] You don't know the answer to

[1:21:42] And you're not allowed

[1:21:43] To just bring something in

[1:21:44] And be like

[1:21:44] Oh yeah the other side

[1:21:45] Doesn't know this person exists

[1:21:46] But we're going to bring them in

[1:21:47] Like it's a

[1:21:48] In a real trial

[1:21:50] I assume they would like

[1:21:51] Stop the trial

[1:21:52] To share that information

[1:21:54] And then they would

[1:21:55] Because if

[1:21:55] The other thing was that

[1:21:56] My one experience on jury duty

[1:21:58] Was seeing how long

[1:21:59] Everything takes

[1:22:00] And how

[1:22:00] A trial can just stop

[1:22:02] For a week

[1:22:03] And then come back

[1:22:04] And it was

[1:22:04] That there's

[1:22:05] It's so much of it

[1:22:05] Is about the judge's schedule

[1:22:06] That like

[1:22:07] Trials are not

[1:22:08] As speedy as the

[1:22:09] I guess the constitution

[1:22:10] Demands

[1:22:11] But

[1:22:11] But it wasn't until

[1:22:12] My cousin Vinny

[1:22:13] That I was like

[1:22:13] Oh so you can't just

[1:22:14] Drive up with a

[1:22:15] With a last minute witness

[1:22:16] And blow the other case

[1:22:18] Out of the water

Dan McCoy

[1:22:18] Surprise witnesses

[1:22:20] Each more surprising

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:21] Than the last

[1:22:22] And it makes me

[1:22:22] Yeah

[1:22:23] And it makes me think

[1:22:24] Of the

[1:22:25] The non-witness version

[1:22:28] Of that is in

[1:22:29] Miracle on 34th street

[1:22:30] When they dump all

[1:22:31] That Santa Claus mail out

[1:22:32] And I'm like

[1:22:33] Well what is this

[1:22:33] Supposed to prove

[1:22:34] Nothing

[1:22:34] Like this

[1:22:35] This is dumb

[1:22:36] And I think in the movie

[1:22:37] They're even like

[1:22:37] Well that's not good

[1:22:38] That's not

[1:22:39] That's not good evidence

[1:22:40] But I've never really

[1:22:41] Been able to understand

[1:22:42] How the case works

[1:22:43] In that movie

[1:22:43] Or how the judge

[1:22:44] Comes to his decision

Dan McCoy

[1:22:46] I think the great thing

[1:22:47] About that movie

[1:22:48] Is it's pretty clear

[1:22:49] That the judge

[1:22:49] Is looking for an excuse

[1:22:51] Not to convict this guy

[1:22:52] Because like

[1:22:53] Of all the bad

[1:22:54] Like the hate mail

[1:22:56] He's been getting

[1:22:57] And everything

[1:22:57] Like he's just

[1:22:58] He's just like

[1:22:59] You know what

[1:22:59] Sure

[1:23:00] Guys

[1:23:01] He's Santa Claus

Stuart Wellington

[1:23:02] I'm not

[1:23:03] I'm not super well versed

[1:23:04] In legal stuff

[1:23:05] But uh

[1:23:06] Is uh

[1:23:07] The courtroom scene

[1:23:08] In Ghostbusters 2

[1:23:09] With the ghosts

[1:23:10] Is that

[1:23:10] Is that realistic

Elliott Kalan

[1:23:11] I mean

[1:23:12] That's only realistic

[1:23:13] In that

[1:23:13] I mean the thing is

[1:23:14] If a ghost is gonna

[1:23:15] Break up a courtroom

[1:23:16] To try to kill the judge

[1:23:18] Who gave them the chair

[1:23:19] There's a lot of

[1:23:20] Usually there are motions

[1:23:21] And paperwork

[1:23:21] That they have to go through

[1:23:22] Before they can appear

[1:23:23] In that courtroom

[1:23:24] Yeah

[1:23:24] But you know

[1:23:26] The Scolari brothers

[1:23:26] They just do whatever they want

[1:23:28] That's why they got the chair

[1:23:29] Yeah

[1:23:29] Harris Ulan gave him the chair

[1:23:31] I mean

[1:23:31] Actually you know what

[1:23:32] I don't think it's

[1:23:33] He says I gave him the chair

[1:23:35] But they're in New York State

[1:23:36] During that scene right

[1:23:37] I think

[1:23:37] Capital punishment

[1:23:38] Had been against the law

[1:23:39] In New York State

[1:23:40] For years

[1:23:41] So unless

[1:23:42] I guess depending on

[1:23:43] How long

[1:23:44] Harris Ulan

[1:23:44] Is playing a judge

[1:23:46] In that one

[1:23:46] Lawyers

[1:23:47] Write in

[1:23:48] Some with the history

[1:23:49] Of capital punishment

[1:23:50] In New York State

[1:23:50] Or like

[1:23:51] I mean capital punishment

[1:23:52] Was against the law

[1:23:53] In the United

[1:23:54] It was declared

[1:23:54] If I'm remembering right

[1:23:56] I thought the Supreme Court

[1:23:56] Declared it cruel and unusual

[1:23:57] At a certain point

[1:23:58] And then it was

[1:23:59] Brought back

[1:24:00] Because our country

[1:24:01] Got meaner

[1:24:01] Over time

[1:24:02] But yeah

[1:24:04] I don't know

[1:24:04] We'll have to see

[1:24:05] If that's actually true

[1:24:06] Well you know

Dan McCoy

[1:24:06] Look it up Elliot

[1:24:08] It's not on the goofs page

[1:24:10] Of Ghostbusters 2

[1:24:11] That I can see

[1:24:12] Guys

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:12] I could be wrong

[1:24:13] But it's possible

[1:24:13] We just discovered

[1:24:14] A new goof

[1:24:15] And the Flophouse

[1:24:15] May have made news

[1:24:16] In this Country Bears episode

[1:24:18] News about Ghostbusters 2

[1:24:19] News you can use

Dan McCoy

[1:24:21] Okay well the second

[1:24:24] No wait

[1:24:25] Here's the other thing

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:26] I want to say

[1:24:26] About Miracle on 4th Street

[1:24:27] They should

[1:24:28] So the trial is

[1:24:29] They think he's insane

[1:24:30] Because he declares himself

[1:24:31] Santa

[1:24:31] And they're going to

[1:24:32] Commit him right

[1:24:32] I wish the movie

[1:24:33] Had had the guts

[1:24:34] To commit him

[1:24:35] To the insane asylum

[1:24:36] And then an army of elves

[1:24:37] Just breaks the walls down

[1:24:38] And is just

[1:24:39] Fighting with guards

[1:24:40] As they break

[1:24:41] Santa Claus out

[1:24:42] And as Santa Claus

[1:24:43] Flies off

[1:24:44] He goes

[1:24:44] Human law

[1:24:45] Has no hold over

[1:24:47] Elf law

[1:24:48] And you know

Dan McCoy

[1:24:49] And then he says

[1:24:50] You've tasted my generosity

[1:24:51] Now taste my wrath

[1:24:53] Yeah exactly

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:54] And he's just

[1:24:55] He drops a huge lump of coal

[1:24:57] On the insane asylum

[1:24:58] Killing dozens

[1:24:58] Yeah sure

Stuart Wellington

[1:24:59] And all the cookies and milk

[1:25:02] That are in the break room

[1:25:03] Have been devoured

[1:25:04] By a voracious Santa Claus

Elliott Kalan

[1:25:06] Yeah well then it becomes

[1:25:08] The movie ends

[1:25:09] In a chilling dystopia

[1:25:10] Where cookies and milk

[1:25:12] Now have to be put out

[1:25:12] Every night

[1:25:13] To satisfy

[1:25:15] The angry

[1:25:16] The angry god

[1:25:17] Who is Santa Claus

[1:25:18] Yeah

[1:25:19] Yeah

[1:25:20] It's like

[1:25:21] It becomes like

[1:25:22] Shirley Jackson's

[1:25:23] The lottery

[1:25:23] Or like

[1:25:24] It's a good life episode

[1:25:25] Of the Twilight Zone

[1:25:25] Where it's just like

[1:25:26] Santa's coming kids

[1:25:28] Have to put out

[1:25:28] The cooking cookies

[1:25:29] Santa might come tonight

[1:25:30] Don't take my children

[1:25:31] Santa Claus

[1:25:31] We've been good all year

[1:25:32] We've been good all year

[1:25:33] But I was good all year

[1:25:35] Santa

[1:25:35] I was good all year

[1:25:36] Not good enough

[1:25:37] You know

[1:25:37] Wishes him to the cornfield

[1:25:39] Which is kind of like

Stuart Wellington

[1:25:40] Kind of like the evil

[1:25:40] Robot Santa from Futurama

[1:25:42] Right

[1:25:42] You know what

[1:25:43] Yeah

[1:25:43] A little bit

Elliott Kalan

[1:25:44] I just pulled a

[1:25:45] Country Bear Muppets

Stuart Wellington

[1:25:45] You're right

[1:25:46] A little bit too much

Elliott Kalan

[1:25:46] I shouldn't have done it

[1:25:47] Like that

[1:25:48] I apologize

[1:25:49] Futurama producers

[1:25:50] And writers

Dan McCoy

[1:25:50] This second and final

[1:25:53] Letter for the episode

[1:25:55] Is from Lindsay

[1:25:56] Who writes

[1:25:58] Dear Floppers

[1:25:59] Every once in a while

[1:26:00] Elliot says something

[1:26:01] That makes me think

[1:26:02] He knows a lot about Ska

[1:26:03] What's the deal with that

[1:26:05] Sincerely

[1:26:06] Lindsay

[1:26:08] What is the deal with that

[1:26:09] With that

Elliott Kalan

[1:26:10] I certainly know more

[1:26:11] Than I want to

[1:26:12] About Ska

[1:26:13] But it's

[1:26:14] I'm not a big Ska fan

[1:26:15] Sure I love Madness

[1:26:16] Everybody loves Madness

[1:26:17] Some of their songs

[1:26:18] But

[1:26:18] Pissing off the Ska fans

Dan McCoy

[1:26:19] And the

[1:26:21] The Rockabilly people

[1:26:22] Wow

Elliott Kalan

[1:26:22] Yeah and you know what

[1:26:23] If I was listening to

[1:26:24] If you put on

[1:26:25] Real Jamaican Ska

[1:26:26] I'd sit there

[1:26:27] And I'd be fine with it

[1:26:28] But being a guy

[1:26:29] Who went to

[1:26:30] A load of punk shows

[1:26:32] In my college years

[1:26:33] Which is the early

[1:26:33] 21st century

[1:26:34] In the late 20th century

[1:26:36] I saw a lot of

[1:26:37] Ska opening bands

[1:26:38] And I'd be like

[1:26:39] I'm just here to see

[1:26:40] The Bouncing Souls

[1:26:41] I don't need to sit

[1:26:42] Through a Ska band

[1:26:43] But I guess I have to

[1:26:44] You know I'm just here

[1:26:44] To see Screeching Weasel

[1:26:45] I don't want to see

[1:26:45] A Ska band

[1:26:46] But you just sit

[1:26:47] Through a lot of Ska bands

[1:26:48] If you were into

[1:26:49] Punk and kind of

[1:26:51] Popier punk

[1:26:52] At the time

[1:26:53] Now of course

[1:26:53] It was a real

[1:26:54] Eye opener

[1:26:56] When I started going

[1:26:56] To metal shows

[1:26:57] With Stuart

[1:26:58] And there were no

[1:26:58] Ska bands opening

[1:26:59] For them

[1:27:00] And I said

[1:27:00] Oh I see

[1:27:01] Okay

[1:27:02] Yeah

Stuart Wellington

[1:27:02] You switched

[1:27:03] Your allegiance

Elliott Kalan

[1:27:04] Yeah

[1:27:04] If we go see

[1:27:05] Carcass

[1:27:05] There's not going to be

[1:27:06] A Ska band

[1:27:07] Playing beforehand

[1:27:07] You know

[1:27:08] But man

Stuart Wellington

[1:27:08] What it would happen

[1:27:10] If that happened

[1:27:11] Well you know

[1:27:11] I think it would go

Dan McCoy

[1:27:13] A little something

[1:27:14] Like this

[1:27:15] A little something

[1:27:15] Like this

[1:27:16] Deet deet deet

[1:27:17] Yeah

[1:27:19] Well let us move on

[1:27:23] To our final segment

[1:27:24] Of the evening

[1:27:25] Where we recommend movies

[1:27:26] You know

[1:27:27] Like look

[1:27:27] We like the country bears

[1:27:28] But maybe

[1:27:29] You're not in the mood

[1:27:30] For a movie

[1:27:31] About a group

[1:27:33] Of country singing bears

[1:27:34] Which

[1:27:35] Maybe we don't want

Elliott Kalan

[1:27:36] The classic

[1:27:36] Flophouse recommends

[1:27:37] Sticker

[1:27:38] That just like

[1:27:39] The Oprah book club

[1:27:39] Logo

[1:27:40] We don't want that

[1:27:40] Slapped on the

[1:27:41] Country bears DVD

[1:27:42] Necessarily

[1:27:42] Yeah

Dan McCoy

[1:27:43] Yeah I mean

[1:27:44] Certainly I wouldn't

[1:27:45] Understand passing up

[1:27:47] The country bears

[1:27:48] But it takes all kinds

[1:27:49] So I'm going to recommend

[1:27:49] And you've already

[1:27:50] Recommended it

[1:27:51] We don't want to

[1:27:51] We don't need a double up

[1:27:52] Yeah

[1:27:52] I'll recommend

[1:27:53] I rewatched

[1:27:55] Because my brother

[1:27:57] Wanted to watch it

[1:27:57] And we were doing

[1:27:58] A you know

[1:27:59] A distanced

[1:28:00] Family watch

[1:28:01] Of the

[1:28:02] The Sugarland Express

[1:28:04] Steven Spielberg's

[1:28:06] First movie

[1:28:07] For the theaters

[1:28:08] Duel was released

[1:28:09] Theatrically

[1:28:09] I believe only overseas

[1:28:11] And then

[1:28:12] Sugarland Express

[1:28:13] Came out

[1:28:14] And then it was

[1:28:15] On to Jaws

[1:28:16] But this

[1:28:16] So this was

[1:28:16] His debut

[1:28:18] And rewatching it

[1:28:20] I was impressed

[1:28:20] By how early on

[1:28:22] He was just sort of

[1:28:24] A master of visual

[1:28:25] Storytelling

[1:28:25] There is

[1:28:26] A lot of

[1:28:27] Like

[1:28:29] It's a much

[1:28:30] Smaller

[1:28:31] Like more human

[1:28:32] Movie than

[1:28:32] A lot of his

[1:28:33] Later films

[1:28:34] Became

[1:28:35] But it also

[1:28:36] From the start

[1:28:37] Has

[1:28:38] So many

[1:28:39] Technical challenges

[1:28:40] Like the

[1:28:41] Crane will

[1:28:42] Widen out

[1:28:43] And you'll see

[1:28:43] So many cars

[1:28:44] Doing so many things

[1:28:46] I guess I haven't

[1:28:47] Even said the story

[1:28:48] The point of it

[1:28:48] Like it's a

[1:28:49] Long slow car chase

[1:28:51] At the beginning

[1:28:53] Of the movie

[1:28:53] A very young

[1:28:55] Goldie Hawn

[1:28:56] Visits

[1:28:57] William Atherton

[1:28:58] Known as

[1:28:59] The perennial

[1:29:00] 80's

[1:29:00] Dick

[1:29:01] In movies like

[1:29:02] Ghostbusters

[1:29:03] Real genius

[1:29:04] Die hard

[1:29:05] Anyway

[1:29:06] Here

[1:29:07] Much more likable

[1:29:08] But still a doofus

[1:29:10] They break out of jail

[1:29:12] Even though he's set

[1:29:12] To be released soon

[1:29:13] Because their child

[1:29:14] Is going to be

[1:29:14] Taking away from them

[1:29:15] From child services

[1:29:17] And they end up

[1:29:17] Getting in this

[1:29:18] Slow speed chase

[1:29:20] And

[1:29:22] It's interesting to see

[1:29:23] It was based on

[1:29:23] A real incident

[1:29:24] And I feel like

[1:29:25] It was

[1:29:27] Very much

[1:29:28] Kind of

[1:29:28] An early rumbling

[1:29:31] Of

[1:29:31] Celebrity

[1:29:33] Culture

[1:29:33] Of

[1:29:34] Today

[1:29:35] I mean I guess

[1:29:36] You know like

[1:29:37] Outlaws were always

[1:29:38] Celebrities

[1:29:38] But this is kind of

[1:29:39] Like a modern

[1:29:40] Version of it

[1:29:40] That like

[1:29:41] A modern American

[1:29:42] Version of it

[1:29:43] That

[1:29:43] Wasn't as often

[1:29:46] Caught and parodied

[1:29:47] On

[1:29:48] In pop culture

[1:29:49] Because it wasn't

[1:29:50] As big a phenomenon

[1:29:51] As it is now

[1:29:52] Sort of like

[1:29:53] The

[1:29:54] Giant

[1:29:55] Celebrity

[1:29:57] Scandal

[1:29:57] Kind of thing

[1:29:58] But it

[1:29:59] You grow to love

[1:29:59] These characters

[1:30:00] You see them

[1:30:01] Go through this

[1:30:02] It has a very

[1:30:02] 70s vibe

[1:30:05] It feels very

[1:30:05] Different from a lot

[1:30:06] Of Spielberg movies

[1:30:07] It feels very

[1:30:08] Like it has that

[1:30:10] Human comedy

[1:30:11] That Jaws has

[1:30:13] And like

[1:30:14] A lot of great

[1:30:15] Faces of like

[1:30:16] Character actors

[1:30:17] That then later on

[1:30:18] Sort of

[1:30:18] Some of the slickness

[1:30:19] Maybe took away

[1:30:21] From Spielberg

[1:30:22] As great as

[1:30:23] Some of his other

[1:30:24] Movies are

[1:30:24] But

[1:30:24] It was

[1:30:26] Very enjoyable

[1:30:27] I recommend it

[1:30:28] The Sugarland Express

Elliott Kalan

[1:30:30] Sugarland Express

[1:30:31] Is really good

[1:30:31] And I've always

[1:30:32] Looked at it

[1:30:33] As a kind of

[1:30:33] Road not taken

[1:30:34] For Spielberg

Dan McCoy

[1:30:35] Yes definitely

[1:30:36] Like it's weird

[1:30:37] Like Altman

[1:30:38] Spielberg

[1:30:38] Kind of

[1:30:39] Yeah

Elliott Kalan

[1:30:39] It's much more

[1:30:40] Of Spielberg

[1:30:41] Doing the kind

[1:30:41] Of movie

[1:30:42] That you saw

[1:30:42] A lot of

[1:30:42] In the 70s

[1:30:43] Before he

[1:30:44] Essentially invented

[1:30:45] Like modern

[1:30:46] Blockbuster movies

[1:30:48] With Jaws

[1:30:49] That's a segue

[1:30:53] I don't mean to

[1:30:53] Jump ahead in my

[1:30:54] Recommations

[1:30:54] That's a segue

[1:30:55] To

[1:30:55] In addition to

[1:30:57] The movie I'm

[1:30:57] Recommending

[1:30:58] Because this is

[1:30:58] The Max One

[1:30:58] Pledge Drive

[1:30:59] I want to

[1:31:00] Recommend a book

[1:31:00] That I'm reading

[1:31:01] I'm currently

[1:31:02] Reading Bob

[1:31:04] Balaban's

[1:31:05] Close Encounters

[1:31:05] Of The Third

[1:31:06] Kind Diary

[1:31:06] Which is his

[1:31:07] Like

[1:31:08] Diaries from

[1:31:10] The making of

[1:31:11] Of The Third

[1:31:12] Kind

[1:31:12] A Steven Spielberg

[1:31:13] Movie

[1:31:13] And it's a

[1:31:14] Really fun read

[1:31:15] And there's a

[1:31:16] Lot of neat

[1:31:16] Behind the scenes

[1:31:16] Stuff about that

[1:31:17] Movie that I

[1:31:18] Didn't know before

[1:31:18] But a lot of

[1:31:19] It is just

[1:31:20] Anecdotes about

[1:31:21] Him and Francois

[1:31:22] Truffaut

[1:31:22] Hanging around

[1:31:23] Waiting for

[1:31:24] The times when

[1:31:24] They were supposed

[1:31:25] To be shooting

[1:31:25] Scenes

[1:31:26] Because there were

[1:31:26] So many

[1:31:27] Special effects

[1:31:27] Shots to wait

[1:31:28] For

[1:31:28] But that's not

[1:31:29] The movie I'm

[1:31:30] Sure

[1:31:31] Is great

[1:31:31] I'm not

[1:31:32] Recommending it

[1:31:32] This time

[1:31:32] I'm recommending

[1:31:33] A different movie

[1:31:34] Hey guys

[1:31:35] The Criterion

[1:31:36] Channel

[1:31:37] Seems to know

[1:31:37] Exactly what I

[1:31:38] Want to see

[1:31:38] Because they've

[1:31:40] Got a whole

[1:31:40] Collection of

[1:31:41] Czech New Wave

[1:31:42] Movies up

[1:31:42] And long time

[1:31:44] Listeners in the

[1:31:44] Flophouse may or

[1:31:45] May not be aware

[1:31:45] That I love

[1:31:46] The Czech New Wave

[1:31:48] And that entire

[1:31:49] Movement of

[1:31:51] Eastern European

[1:31:52] Kind of New Wave

[1:31:52] Films of the

[1:31:53] Early to mid

[1:31:53] 60s

[1:31:54] I'm a big fan

[1:31:55] And so there's

[1:31:56] A bunch of

[1:31:56] Movies

[1:31:56] That I've

[1:31:57] Closely watched

[1:31:58] Trains

[1:31:58] Which is one

[1:31:58] Of those movies

[1:31:59] It's one of my

[1:31:59] All time favorite

[1:32:00] Movies

[1:32:00] Intimate Lighting

[1:32:01] Is another great

[1:32:02] One

[1:32:02] But anyway

[1:32:02] The one I'm

[1:32:03] Is those are

[1:32:04] Both in that

[1:32:04] Collection that's

[1:32:04] On Criterion

[1:32:05] Right now

[1:32:05] But another

[1:32:05] One that I

[1:32:06] Just saw

[1:32:06] Is called

[1:32:07] Something Different

[1:32:08] This is the

[1:32:09] I think feature

[1:32:11] Debut possibly

[1:32:12] Of Vera

[1:32:13] Chitalova who

[1:32:14] Directed Daisies

[1:32:15] Which I

[1:32:16] Recommended a

[1:32:17] Little while

[1:32:17] Back

[1:32:18] And it tells

[1:32:19] Two parallel

[1:32:19] Stories

[1:32:20] One is about

[1:32:21] Housewife who

[1:32:21] Has become

[1:32:22] Very frustrated

[1:32:24] And dissatisfied

[1:32:25] With her life

[1:32:26] And embarks

[1:32:26] On an affair

[1:32:27] That kind of

[1:32:28] Starts to replicate

[1:32:29] The things going

[1:32:30] On in her

[1:32:30] Marriage

[1:32:31] It seems like

[1:32:31] She's kind of

[1:32:32] Stuck in those

[1:32:32] Things

[1:32:32] And it pairs

[1:32:33] Up with a

[1:32:33] Story of

[1:32:34] An Olympic

[1:32:34] Gymnast

[1:32:35] Who is

[1:32:36] Practicing

[1:32:37] And preparing

[1:32:38] For an

[1:32:39] Exhibition

[1:32:39] And she's

[1:32:41] Having to

[1:32:41] Push herself

[1:32:42] Really hard

[1:32:42] To do

[1:32:43] New moves

[1:32:43] That she's

[1:32:44] Not used

[1:32:44] To at a

[1:32:44] Time when

[1:32:45] She's

[1:32:46] Getting

[1:32:46] Older than

[1:32:47] Gymnasts

[1:32:47] Usually are

[1:32:48] And is

[1:32:48] Finding it

[1:32:49] More difficult

[1:32:49] And the

[1:32:50] Gymnast is

[1:32:50] Played by

[1:32:51] Eva Bosakova

[1:32:52] Who was a

[1:32:52] Real Olympic

[1:32:53] Gold medalist

[1:32:54] From

[1:32:55] Czechoslovakia

[1:32:56] And so

[1:32:57] There's a lot

[1:32:57] Of great

[1:32:57] Gymnastics

[1:32:58] In the movie

[1:32:59] But it's

[1:32:59] A Czech

[1:33:00] New Wave

[1:33:00] Film

[1:33:00] Which means

[1:33:01] That it's

[1:33:01] A little

[1:33:02] Sad

[1:33:02] But also

[1:33:03] A little

[1:33:03] Funny

[1:33:03] There's

[1:33:04] Great black

[1:33:04] And white

[1:33:05] Just kind

[1:33:05] Of crisp

[1:33:06] Imagery

[1:33:06] And the

[1:33:07] And the

Elliott Kalan

[1:33:07] Way

[1:33:08] And the

[1:33:08] Way that it

[1:33:10] Counterpoints

[1:33:11] These two

[1:33:12] Women who

[1:33:13] Are both

[1:33:13] Eager for

Elliott Kalan

[1:33:13] Something

[1:33:13] Different in

[1:33:14] Their lives

[1:33:15] But find

[1:33:16] Themselves kind

[1:33:17] Of still

[1:33:17] Trapped by

[1:33:18] The way of

[1:33:19] Living that

[1:33:19] They know

[1:33:21] And the things

[1:33:21] They're used

[1:33:21] To

[1:33:22] I just

[1:33:22] Really liked

[1:33:23] It a lot

[1:33:23] So that's

[1:33:23] Something

[1:33:24] Different

[1:33:24] It is not

[1:33:25] I just want

[1:33:26] To say

[1:33:26] Right off

[1:33:26] The bat

[1:33:26] It is not

[1:33:27] The basis

[1:33:28] Of the

[1:33:29] Something

[1:33:29] Different

[1:33:30] Zima

[1:33:30] Commercials

[1:33:31] That would

[1:33:31] Air on

[1:33:32] American

[1:33:32] Television

[1:33:32] 30 years

[1:33:33] Later

[1:33:33] It's not

[1:33:34] Related

[1:33:35] So this is

[1:33:35] Something

[1:33:36] Different

[1:33:36] It's currently

[1:33:37] On the

[1:33:37] Criterion

[1:33:37] Channel

[1:33:38] And it's

[1:33:38] Available in

[1:33:39] Other places

[1:33:39] Too

Dan McCoy

[1:33:39] Before

[1:33:40] Stuart

[1:33:42] Makes this

[1:33:43] Recommendation

[1:33:44] I don't

[1:33:44] Want to

[1:33:45] A very

[1:33:46] Important

[1:33:46] Piece of

[1:33:47] Information

[1:33:47] I've

[1:33:48] Done some

[1:33:48] Research

[1:33:49] It seems

[1:33:49] That the

[1:33:50] Death

[1:33:51] Penalty

[1:33:51] In New

[1:33:52] York

[1:33:52] State

[1:33:52] Has

[1:33:52] Been

[1:33:52] Abolished

[1:33:53] And

[1:33:53] Reinstated

[1:33:54] Many

[1:33:54] times

[1:33:54] Over the

[1:33:56] Years

[1:33:56] Including

[1:33:56] In

[1:33:57] 1860

[1:33:57] It was

[1:33:58] Abolished

[1:33:59] By accident

[1:34:00] And

[1:34:01] And was

[1:34:02] Corrected

[1:34:02] In 1861

[1:34:03] But

[1:34:04] Apparently

[1:34:05] According to

[1:34:05] The

[1:34:06] Fandom

[1:34:07] Dot

[1:34:08] Com

[1:34:08] Wiki

[1:34:09] Let's

[1:34:11] See

[1:34:12] The

[1:34:12] Scoleri

[1:34:13] Brothers

[1:34:13] Trial

[1:34:14] Was in

[1:34:14] 1948

[1:34:15] During

[1:34:17] Which time

[1:34:18] Okay

[1:34:18] It was

[1:34:18] Legal

[1:34:19] Then

[1:34:19] Yeah

[1:34:19] It was

[1:34:20] Legal

[1:34:20] Although

[1:34:21] Harris

[1:34:22] Ulan

[1:34:22] Character

[1:34:23] Judge

[1:34:23] Wexler

[1:34:24] Would

[1:34:24] Have

[1:34:24] Only

[1:34:24] Been

[1:34:25] 21

[1:34:25] Making

[1:34:25] It

[1:34:25] Unlikely

[1:34:26] He

[1:34:27] Would

[1:34:27] Be

[1:34:28] Presiding

[1:34:28] Over

[1:34:29] A

[1:34:29] Death

[1:34:30] Penalty

[1:34:30] Where are

Dan McCoy

[1:34:30] They getting

Elliott Kalan

[1:34:30] The information

[1:34:31] That the

[1:34:31] Scolari

[1:34:32] Brothers

[1:34:32] Trials

[1:34:32] From

[1:34:32] 1948

[1:34:33] Is that

[1:34:33] The

[1:34:33] Novelization

[1:34:34] I

Dan McCoy

[1:34:34] Do

[1:34:35] Not

[1:34:35] The

[1:34:37] To

[1:34:38] February

[1:34:39] 27

[1:34:40] 1989

[1:34:41] Draft

[1:34:42] So

[1:34:43] So

Dan McCoy

[1:34:43] This

[1:34:44] Is

[1:34:44] I

[1:34:44] Guess

[1:34:44] An

[1:34:46] Earlier

[1:34:46] Draft

[1:34:47] Is

[1:34:47] Specified

[1:34:48] That

[1:34:48] Was

[1:34:49] 48

[1:34:49] So

Elliott Kalan

[1:34:50] I

[1:34:50] You know

[1:34:50] What

[1:34:51] I'm

[1:34:51] Not

[1:34:51] Going to

[1:34:51] Take that

[1:34:51] As

[1:34:52] Canon

[1:34:52] To

[1:34:52] Be

[1:34:52] Honest

[1:34:53] I'm

[1:34:53] Going to

[1:34:53] I'm

[1:34:53] Going to

[1:34:53] I hate

[1:34:54] To

[1:34:54] Make

[1:34:54] Enemies

[1:34:55] But I'm

[1:34:55] Going to

[1:34:55] Take issue

[1:34:55] With the

[1:34:56] Fandom

[1:34:57] Wiki

[1:34:57] Site

[1:34:57] And say

[1:34:58] That this

[1:34:58] Is

[1:34:59] A

[1:34:59] Possible

[1:35:00] Goof

[1:35:00] Yeah

Dan McCoy

[1:35:02] I mean

[1:35:02] Or

[1:35:03] Incorrectly

[1:35:03] Regarded

[1:35:04] As

[1:35:04] Goof

Stuart Wellington

[1:35:04] Yeah

[1:35:05] Do you

[1:35:05] Think

[1:35:05] Do you

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[1:40:30] Bears

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Ep. #342 - The Country Bears

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