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FH Mini 40 - TuBoy Talkin' Tube to 2 Dudes Tonight, That's Right 2
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Stuart Wellington
[0:00]
Hey! It's me, Stuart of the Flop House.
[0:08]
And I'm one of those...
[0:10]
Bursting into people's ears.
Elliott Kalan
[0:12]
Hey!
[0:13]
Like if Porky Pig was at the beginning of the cartoon.
Stuart Wellington
[0:18]
More people would watch Looney Tunes.
[0:22]
Looney Tunes?
[0:22]
That's what it is.
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That's why they got cancelled.
Dan McCoy
[0:25]
Looney Tunes got cancelled because not enough people were watching.
Stuart Wellington
[0:28]
Yeah, no Porky in the front.
[0:30]
Okay.
[0:32]
Porky in the front, party in the back.
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Gross, dude.
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I was trying to keep a clean podcast for a change.
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So I'm one of the three hosts of the Flop House podcast.
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Joined with me are my two co-hosts who will introduce themselves now.
[0:46]
I'm Dan McCoy.
Elliott Kalan
[0:47]
I'm Elliot Kalin.
[0:49]
That's right.
[0:50]
Himself.
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That guy from the Flop House.
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How'd they get me?
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I'm always here.
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Thanks.
Stuart Wellington
[0:54]
Now tonight we're...
Dan McCoy
[0:56]
Now, Stuart, have you said your name?
Stuart Wellington
[0:58]
Oh, yeah.
[0:58]
Because I don't think you have.
[0:59]
I think I said I was Stuart from the Flop House.
[1:01]
Stuart Wellington.
[1:03]
You did change your last name to From the Flop House.
[1:06]
Stuart from the Flop House.
[1:08]
Yeah.
[1:09]
Legally.
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So we're a podcast about bad movies normally, but you're tuning into one of our mini episodes,
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which we're recording tonight, and we are not going to be doing what we normally do, which
[1:20]
is watching a bad movie and then reviewing it.
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No, no, no.
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We are doing something special because as you guys, I'm sure, have been checking your calendars,
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it is the nine-month anniversary of the now classic Flop House mini.
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So we are doing the next episode.
[1:36]
That's right.
[1:37]
Tonight, we are doing Two Boy Talking Tube to Two Dudes tonight.
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That's right.
Elliott Kalan
[1:43]
I was literally, I was thinking about this the other day for random reasons and could
[1:48]
not remember the full title.
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I could not bring it into my mind.
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So can you say it again?
Stuart Wellington
[1:52]
Yeah.
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It's Two Boy Talking Tube to Two Dudes tonight.
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That's right.
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Because let's just break this down.
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It's the that's right that I always forget.
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Let's break this down.
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Two Boy, that's me, Stuart Wellington.
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The two dudes.
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Of the Flop House.
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Yep.
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It's Dan Nelliot from the Flop House.
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Talking Tube means we're going to be talking boob tube.
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We're not talking movies.
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We're talking about the small screen.
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That's right.
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Things you can watch on your phone.
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And then we're going to be doing it tonight.
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And it's all right because we're going to be doing it.
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And you can't stop us.
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Unless you turn off the podcast, which would make me very bummed.
Dan McCoy
[2:24]
Yeah.
[2:25]
Yeah.
[2:25]
There's a pretty easy way to stop us.
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Don't say that, Dan.
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Literally a button that is a stop button.
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Now, Stuart, I'm sorry.
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I wasn't paying attention before.
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What anniversary?
Stuart Wellington
[2:37]
Two Boy talking to Two Dudes tonight.
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That's right.
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Which anniversary are we at?
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Nine months.
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Nine months.
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Nine months.
Elliott Kalan
[2:44]
So for anyone who conceived on the night that we first did this,
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now the baby is here.
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Take it to the hospital.
Stuart Wellington
[2:52]
Quite possible.
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It was an exciting night.
Elliott Kalan
[2:54]
It's an overlong title.
Stuart Wellington
[2:56]
Okay.
[2:56]
So we're talking TV, guys.
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We're not talking movies.
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So, of course, the first thing that everybody wants to talk about, that's right, the Emmys.
[3:04]
The Emmys were a thing that happened recently.
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Awards were given out to different shows.
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Not that recently.
Elliott Kalan
[3:08]
I mean, it's recently in terms of a few weeks.
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I mean, it's not recent in that.
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It's like...
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Geologic scale.
Dan McCoy
[3:13]
That's true.
[3:14]
I guess...
[3:15]
Good point.
[3:16]
You pulled that one on me last time.
Elliott Kalan
[3:18]
On the geologic scale, it hasn't even happened yet.
[3:20]
Yes.
Stuart Wellington
[3:20]
So, let's just start this off.
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I'm going to start with Outstanding Comedy Series.
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The winner was Ted Lasso.
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What do you think, Dan?
Dan McCoy
[3:32]
Well, I didn't follow the Emmys at all this year.
[3:37]
Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[3:38]
Now it's your chance.
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So I have no idea.
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We're just rapping.
Dan McCoy
[3:41]
You don't have to be an expert.
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I'm just saying I don't know what else was nominated.
Stuart Wellington
[3:45]
So I cannot...
[3:46]
Oh, I got it right here, Dan.
[3:48]
Okay.
[3:48]
There you go.
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It was up against Black-ish, Cobra Kai...
[3:52]
Sure.
[3:53]
Emily in Paris, The Flight Attendant, Hacks, The Kaminsky Method, which I swear is not a real show.
[4:04]
Yeah.
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Okay.
[4:07]
You can...
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There's nothing you can say to convince me that this is an actual show that I can watch.
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And Pen15.
Dan McCoy
[4:15]
Okay.
[4:16]
Well, with the caveat that I have not seen Pen15, which I understand is very good.
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I would say that of that crop, it certainly deserved it.
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The only way I was going to say it didn't is that it is of that kind of comedy that is often more gently amusing than Laugh Out Loud Funny.
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Like, I enjoy being with the characters more than I have a hearty belly laugh.
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But Dan, remember...
Stuart Wellington
[4:43]
It's based entirely on not having watched it, but impressions you've had from people talking about it?
Dan McCoy
[4:48]
No, I'm talking about Ted Lasso.
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Oh, Ted Lasso.
[4:51]
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You have watched it.
[4:52]
Yeah.
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I have watched that show.
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I'm saying the only reason I wouldn't have possibly said that it was the best of that Motley Crue is maybe if you're arguing that it wasn't enough of a comedy.
Elliott Kalan
[5:06]
Now, if it was Motley Crue, which member of the band would Ted Lasso be?
Stuart Wellington
[5:09]
That's actually a really good...
[5:10]
Nikki Sixx?
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I was going to save that for a later segment.
[5:13]
Oh, sorry, sorry.
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But we can do it right now.
Dan McCoy
[5:15]
Yeah, is it Nikki Sixx, Dan, or is it...
[5:17]
Yeah, it is.
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Since that's the only member of Motley Crue, I would have been able to...
Elliott Kalan
[5:21]
Or would it be Tommy Lee?
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Because they have the same initials.
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Tommy Lee, Ted Lasso, same initials.
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Wow.
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Oh, there you go.
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Wow.
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Crack the code.
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The Bible code.
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Ellie, do you have any opinions on this?
[5:30]
I haven't seen...
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To be honest, I haven't seen most of those shows.
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I still haven't seen Ted Lasso.
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My boss's wife...
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My boss's husband works for that show, so I can't...
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Even if I had seen it, I wouldn't say anything negative about it.
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Oh, okay.
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Okay.
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But I haven't seen it yet.
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But I will say, Dan, that gentle comedy that is not laugh out loud funny but is kind of pleasant
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is kind of where...
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It seems to be kind of where comedy is right now in a lot of ways.
[5:53]
Yeah.
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After Schitt's Creek, which is a fine show that I enjoy, swept last year.
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But it's not a show where I watch it and I'm like, I cannot wait to have my sides split
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open from laughter.
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It's a show where I'm like, this is going to be fun.
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This is going to be fun.
Dan McCoy
[6:06]
I mean, I know what you're saying, but I think that the actors were so talented in creating
[6:14]
those specific characters that I would laugh heartily at a lot of it, even if, yeah, maybe
[6:19]
joke writing wasn't that show's strongest suit.
Elliott Kalan
[6:23]
I mean, I think it's a really well...
[6:25]
That show's a really well-written show.
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It's a really well-performed show.
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I love everybody on it.
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It's more...
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I think it's just not what they're...
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They're not going for a show that is like 30 Rock, where it's like hitting you over the
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head with punchlines constantly.
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You know, literally punching you in the face with jokes.
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And I said, literally.
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Yeah, constantly.
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Because it's not a metaphor.
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Tina Fey's hand reaches out of the screen and punches you with a joke every time.
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But yeah, I haven't seen Ted Leslie yet.
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Sort of a Videodrome thing.
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Yeah.
[6:47]
Oh, that's what happens in Videodrome.
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James Woods was like, I can't take all these jokes.
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The new flesh is too funny.
Stuart Wellington
[6:57]
Obviously, the problem is that the best comedy show, What We Do in the Shadows, was not even
[7:02]
nominated, which is a...
[7:03]
Well, it was not eligible that year.
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Oh, it wasn't?
[7:06]
Yeah, because of its broadcast.
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Too many vampires?
[7:07]
Oh, okay.
Elliott Kalan
[7:07]
Yeah, they passed a vampire rule because of its broadcast schedule.
Dan McCoy
[7:10]
Too many vampires.
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Like, oh, no, those vampires are going to show up when we filmed them for the Emmys.
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We can't have...
Stuart Wellington
[7:16]
Jesse Thorne came in and made sure that no Draculas were allowed.
Elliott Kalan
[7:19]
Mm-hmm.
[7:20]
There were two issues.
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One was, yeah, if they win, you're just going to see an empty stage because the Draculas are
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not...
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And then a word trophy that floats in the air because they don't show up on film or video.
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But also because you don't want that many vampires loose in amongst Hollywood's brightest
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stars.
[7:35]
No.
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They're just going to go crazy with the eating and the blood sucking.
[7:38]
And then what's going to happen...
Stuart Wellington
[7:38]
Yeah, the only Hollywood vampires I want is a celebrity rock and roll band featuring Johnny
[7:43]
Depp and a couple other turds.
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I mean, counterpoint, Elliot, if you have a bunch of vampires...
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Wait, what if the band was called Johnny Depp and a couple other turds?
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Then I would assume they're all vampires and just trying to throw me off the scent by talking
[7:57]
about turds.
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Come on in.
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There's no vampires here.
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Just a bunch of harmless turds.
Dan McCoy
[8:02]
Now, counterpoint, Elliot, to what you were saying.
[8:05]
You know, if it's a celebration of Hollywood's best and brightest, maybe unleashing vampires
[8:12]
would just ensure that those people would stay young and vital forever.
Stuart Wellington
[8:17]
It's certainly easier than having to CGI digital ghost versions of them forever and ever.
Elliott Kalan
[8:23]
I guess that's true.
[8:24]
I mean, the question is, are the vampires going to bite them and make them part of their flock
[8:29]
or are they going to tear them apart in an orgy of bloodlust?
[8:32]
What kind of vamps are we talking?
[8:34]
Exactly.
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It's too big a question mark for a professional award ceremony.
[8:39]
Guys, we've got to move on.
Stuart Wellington
[8:40]
We've only scratched the surface of this.
[8:42]
I thought this was two guys talking teeth tonight, vampires specifically.
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I'll write tonight, that's right.
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We'll be talking vamps later.
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Don't worry.
[8:50]
The after show talking vamps.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Next is Outstanding Drama Series.
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Winner is The Crown.
[9:01]
The Crown.
Elliott Kalan
[9:01]
And, of course, the television adaptation of Larry Crown starring Tom Hanks.
[9:04]
Haven't seen the movie, haven't seen the show, don't know how accurate it is.
Dan McCoy
[9:08]
Yeah, again, this is one where I have not seen any of The Crown, so I cannot speak to the
[9:13]
quality of that program.
Elliott Kalan
[9:14]
This show richly deserved the award for Outstanding Show that My Wife Falls Asleep to
[9:18]
While I Do the Dishes in the Other Room.
Stuart Wellington
[9:20]
Yeah, that sounds good.
[9:21]
So it was up against The Boys, Bridgerton, The Handmaid's Tale, Lovecraft Country, The
[9:32]
Mandalorian, Pose.
[9:36]
This is us.
Dan McCoy
[9:40]
Well, seeing as of those shows, I only have seen all of the second season of The Boys.
[9:51]
And, yeah, I don't know.
[9:54]
The Mandalorian I saw a couple episodes of, but not this new season.
Elliott Kalan
[9:57]
Yeah, I've only seen a couple episodes of The Mandalorian.
[9:59]
I've seen all of the first season of Pose, but I only just started the second season, which
[10:02]
is the one this award would be for.
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And I haven't.
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What sticks out to me the most is This Is Us being on there, because there's like,
[10:10]
is that the only network show on the list?
Stuart Wellington
[10:13]
I think it, yes.
[10:17]
Yeah, I guess FX doesn't count as a network show.
Elliott Kalan
[10:19]
I would call, well, I mean cable.
[10:20]
I mean non-cable, non-streaming.
[10:22]
Yeah.
[10:23]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[10:23]
I mean, like, yeah, The Boys was a fine show to fold my laundry to.
[10:28]
I wouldn't, I don't think I would nominate it for.
[10:30]
Well, it did win.
[10:31]
It did win.
Stuart Wellington
[10:31]
I certainly think the second season is an improvement over the first season.
Dan McCoy
[10:35]
It won Outstanding Drama at the Foldies.
[10:38]
Yeah.
[10:38]
Okay.
[10:40]
Is that just other forms of entertainment that you fold things during?
Elliott Kalan
[10:45]
Yeah, yeah.
[10:45]
I mean, there's television, film, music, someone reading a newspaper article or magazine article
[10:51]
to you.
[10:52]
Sounds like.
[10:53]
No podcast category.
[10:54]
Very strange.
[10:54]
A real, weird oversight for the Foldies.
Stuart Wellington
[10:56]
Yeah, you would think.
[10:57]
So, it sounds like we have some really firm opinions on this category.
[11:00]
Let's just jump ahead to Outstanding Limited or Anthology Series.
Elliott Kalan
[11:05]
You're really seeing how little television we seem to be watching in our regular lives.
[11:09]
Okay.
[11:10]
This is Limited Series or Minimal Series?
Stuart Wellington
[11:12]
Yep.
[11:13]
The winner is The Queen's Gambit.
[11:18]
Other shows in the category, other nominees.
[11:21]
I May Destroy You, Mayor O'East Town, The Underground Railroad, WandaVision.
Elliott Kalan
[11:32]
I mean, Queen's Gambit and WandaVision are the only ones in those series
[11:35]
where I've seen all of both of them.
[11:37]
Oh, wow.
[11:38]
But I saw a little bit of Underground Railroad and I thought that was good too.
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And I saw a little bit of, what was some of the other ones?
Stuart Wellington
[11:44]
I May Destroy You is great.
Elliott Kalan
[11:46]
It is super intense.
[11:48]
Well, it's the thing.
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We watch the first episode every time we're about to watch the second episode.
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We're like, do we really have it?
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We're tired.
[11:53]
Do we really have it in us to watch this show right now?
Dan McCoy
[11:56]
Yeah.
[11:56]
Yeah.
[11:57]
This is so weird to realize that in previous days when there was no pandemic, I would have
[12:05]
seen, I think, more of the things that were big than that.
[12:10]
I just haven't found myself watching television the same way.
[12:16]
I don't know.
[12:16]
I saw all of WandaVision and then we watched the Queen's Gambit, like, I don't know, about
[12:22]
half of it.
[12:23]
And neither of us seemed to be quite excited enough to push through the end.
Elliott Kalan
[12:27]
Oh, I really liked the Queen's Gambit.
[12:29]
I found the very ending of it to be kind of anticlimactic.
[12:32]
But I liked the Queen's Gambit a lot.
Stuart Wellington
[12:32]
I mean, I certainly liked the outfits and the hotel rooms.
[12:35]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[12:36]
The production design looked – and so much of that, I'm sure, was also like mixing real
[12:42]
sets with CGI recreation, you know, of the time period, which is –
Stuart Wellington
[12:46]
Get Todd Viziri to weigh in on that one.
Dan McCoy
[12:49]
The production design was beautiful.
[12:52]
The clothes were beautiful.
[12:54]
I love Anya Taylor-Joy and basically everything I've seen her in.
[12:57]
I thought the supporting cast was great as well.
[12:58]
You've never mentioned that before, Dan.
[13:00]
But –
[13:00]
Have I?
Elliott Kalan
[13:01]
I remember you did start the hashtag NotMyPrincessPeach trending on Twitter.
[13:06]
So that seems to go against what you're saying.
Stuart Wellington
[13:08]
Like, can't you be normal now?
Dan McCoy
[13:10]
But I also got this feeling from that show that it's like a deeply silly show that was
[13:15]
trying to pretend it was important.
Elliott Kalan
[13:18]
Oh, I don't know about that.
[13:19]
I think it was a show that was, I think, maybe attempting to hide how melodramatic it
[13:24]
was at times.
[13:25]
But it's funny that it and WandaVision were both nominated because WandaVision is
[13:31]
a superhero show.
[13:32]
And The Queen's Gambit is a chess drama that kind of takes the form of a superhero show
[13:36]
in a way.
[13:37]
Where, like, her superpower is chess.
[13:39]
Yeah.
[13:40]
And there's something funny about – and she builds her kind of, like, team of – her
[13:46]
support team of side heroes and stuff like that.
[13:50]
Yeah.
[13:50]
Yeah.
[13:51]
I don't know.
[13:51]
I haven't seen most of the other ones.
[13:52]
I watched the first episode of Mare of Ace Town and I was like, hmm, I don't think I'm
[13:56]
into murder shows these days.
[13:57]
Yeah.
[13:58]
I don't want to be taking the wrong –
Stuart Wellington
[13:59]
But the accents, dude.
[14:01]
And Guy Pearce with long hair.
Elliott Kalan
[14:03]
If it was just called Guy Pearce with long hair and it was just him going around doing
[14:06]
stuff, taking his shirt off, putting it back on, I'd watch that show every episode.
Stuart Wellington
[14:09]
Yeah.
[14:10]
So I did the thing that I do a lot.
[14:12]
And when I was watching – not to be too much of a spoiler, but there is a romantic
[14:16]
relationship between Guy Pearce and Kate Winslet.
[14:19]
So I was like, hmm, how old are they really?
[14:23]
And obviously Guy Pearce is a little bit older.
[14:26]
And he also plays his age in this show, which is kind of interesting.
[14:30]
But the weird thing is both of them have this –
Elliott Kalan
[14:33]
As opposed to Prometheus where he played a man who was 70 years older than him.
Stuart Wellington
[14:37]
That's a beautiful swing.
[14:40]
And some might say it's a miss.
[14:42]
I would not.
[14:42]
I think there was a swing and a hit.
[14:44]
It was the best choice of that movie to make that the majority of screen time that Guy Pearce
[14:49]
had in Prometheus, he was caked in old age makeup.
Elliott Kalan
[14:53]
Caked in what appeared to be layers of Elmer's glue that had to dry one at a time.
[14:58]
You were saying, so he's playing his age.
Stuart Wellington
[15:00]
But the interesting thing is both he and Kate Winslet have the exact same birthday.
[15:06]
Isn't that fun?
[15:07]
Isn't that a fun fact?
Elliott Kalan
[15:08]
You know that every day when they walked on set, they went, birthday pals.
[15:11]
They point at each other and they go, hey, birthday twin.
[15:13]
How are you doing?
[15:13]
I'm good, birthday twin.
Dan McCoy
[15:14]
I want to jump way back only for fear of being misunderstood and having angry Queen's Gambit
[15:24]
heads coming at me.
[15:25]
I don't –
[15:26]
The Gambos they call themselves?
[15:27]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[15:27]
Now they call themselves Gambos, which is bad because Michael Gambon's fans also call
[15:31]
themselves Gambos.
[15:32]
So it's hard, you know?
Dan McCoy
[15:34]
I just want to make clear that I actually really enjoy sort of the melodrama of it all.
[15:38]
My problem was more that I felt like it took some silly shortcuts in the storytelling.
[15:46]
But I like how it's a handsomely mounted melodrama, which is a thing we don't get enough of.
Stuart Wellington
[15:53]
That's true.
[15:54]
I think so, Dan's safe.
[15:55]
He's on base.
[15:56]
You cannot be mad at him.
[15:58]
Yeah.
[15:58]
Cancel him.
[15:59]
Uncancel him.
[16:00]
Yeah.
[16:00]
So that's going to wrap up our Emmy segment.
[16:02]
We have one more segment – well, not one more.
[16:04]
We have a couple more.
[16:05]
The next segment, of course, is called What Are We Watching?
[16:08]
This is the segment where we talk about shows that we're watching.
[16:12]
Lately, I'll go first.
[16:14]
I mentioned What We Do in the Shadows.
[16:15]
New season.
[16:16]
It's great.
[16:16]
I love that show.
[16:17]
Can't get enough.
[16:17]
Great season.
[16:18]
Give me more vamp, vamp, vamps.
[16:20]
I also – I've been talking to Elliot about this, but when I work out, I got to have something
[16:25]
on in the background.
[16:25]
I got to watch something when I work out.
[16:27]
Lately, I've been watching those Peaky Bees, you know, the Peaky Blinders starring Killian
[16:32]
Murphy, beautiful short king.
[16:34]
I love that guy.
[16:35]
I don't know if I buy him as like a scary mobster guy, but whatever.
[16:38]
He's cool.
[16:39]
And he's gorgeous.
[16:39]
I love him.
Elliott Kalan
[16:39]
He's the scarecrow, Stuart.
[16:41]
How could you not?
[16:41]
Come on.
[16:42]
What's not scary about him?
[16:43]
He's the scarecrow.
Stuart Wellington
[16:44]
I have trouble buying him as like a war hero tough guy when he's like 5'7 and a gorgeous
[16:51]
angel of a man with a beautiful voice.
[16:54]
Like I feel like he'd be walking around the streets of Birmingham and people would be like,
[16:57]
who is this?
[16:58]
Who's this beautiful ghost?
[17:02]
But I love those haircuts and I love that it's a lot of slow motion guys walking around
[17:06]
in three-piece suits like, oh man, can't get enough of that shit.
[17:10]
Have you ever – and they have this house band that's really great, Nick Cave and the Bad
[17:14]
Seeds.
[17:15]
He does the theme song.
[17:17]
Dan, you know what I'm talking about.
[17:18]
You're a Peaky Bee head, right?
Elliott Kalan
[17:21]
Guess not.
[17:22]
Yeah, Peaky Bees.
Stuart Wellington
[17:23]
And then of course I've been watching –
Elliott Kalan
[17:25]
The fans call themselves Peaky Beekeepers.
Stuart Wellington
[17:28]
That would make sense.
[17:30]
It's all about headgear.
[17:33]
And the other thing I've been watching, of course, I'm almost done with Mike Flanagan's Midnight
[17:38]
Mass, another Mike Flanagan horror series.
[17:43]
Spoiler, there's vampires in it.
[17:45]
I like it a lot but it's like a lot of Mike Flanagan stuff where it's like this would be
[17:51]
great if it had about 50% monologues.
[17:55]
I don't know if you – did you guys watch Hill House or Blythe Manor?
Elliott Kalan
[17:58]
I started watching Hill House and I just didn't quite get into it.
[18:03]
It just wasn't – it was a little too super serious for me, I think.
Stuart Wellington
[18:09]
Yeah, I feel like every time there's action, it gets interrupted with like two characters
[18:14]
telling some long monologue about some shit.
[18:17]
And it's like I get it.
[18:18]
I understand that it's just – it feels a little self-serious and it's like it – to
[18:24]
me it hurts the pacing.
[18:26]
But whatever.
[18:27]
And also like I feel like it's padding.
Dan McCoy
[18:30]
Paddington?
[18:31]
It's Paddington.
[18:33]
Midnight Mass is probably the main thing that I have watched lately and I don't know.
[18:40]
I didn't have the same problem.
[18:42]
I mean I – I will say that I see that it is there.
[18:46]
I see that the show is almost entirely made up of people monologuing to one another.
[18:52]
Yes.
[18:53]
But it's not a thing that bothers me because I think that by and large they're interesting,
[19:01]
well-written, well-performed monologues.
[19:04]
And so I just sort of accept it as the style especially because it's about like religion.
[19:11]
So it just feels like people trading sermons of different kinds.
Stuart Wellington
[19:15]
Oh, yeah.
[19:15]
And it – like the theme of like a personal faith and that sort of thing.
[19:20]
I think that stuff is all cool.
[19:22]
I just wish it moved it a little better clip in regards to that stuff.
[19:27]
Like I love all the world building.
[19:28]
I haven't seen it.
Elliott Kalan
[19:29]
I haven't seen it.
[19:29]
I know Dan loves monologues though.
[19:30]
Usually with late night shows, he watches the first ten minutes and then just turns them off.
[19:34]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[19:34]
Same thing with Marin.
[19:36]
And the other thing with Midnight Mass, of course, I love that we got mega hunk Rahul Coley in it.
[19:46]
And this time he's doing an American accent and he's doing a pretty good job.
[19:50]
Okay.
[19:51]
Elliot, what have you been watching lately?
Elliott Kalan
[19:53]
I haven't been watching a lot – I mean the problem is I work in television but I like to watch movies kind of more than television.
[19:59]
So if I have a chance, I'm going to watch a movie more often.
[20:03]
But let's see.
[20:04]
Like I mentioned earlier, we've been watching Pose.
[20:07]
We just started the second season.
[20:08]
That's a show I like the first season of a lot.
[20:10]
It's a very Ryan Murphy show in that it is – everything about it is on the nose.
[20:14]
There's nothing subtle about it whatsoever.
[20:16]
And anytime you're like, oh, that's an interesting metaphor, a character just comes out and says it right afterwards.
[20:22]
But I'm still –
[20:23]
Have you watched any – have you seen any of Impeachment?
[20:25]
No, I haven't yet.
[20:26]
I'm curious about it but I haven't seen it yet.
Stuart Wellington
[20:28]
It's every opportunity to put makeup effects on a character, they take it.
[20:32]
And it's wild that they managed to make Clive Owen have less charisma than Bill Clinton.
[20:38]
Which I mean Bill Clinton has a lot of charisma but Clive Owen with – under a giant nose and whatnot just can't keep up.
Elliott Kalan
[20:46]
Yeah.
[20:47]
And the – I'm trying to think what I started – I watched the first half of the first episode of Squid Game.
[20:54]
Mm-hmm.
[20:55]
But –
[20:56]
Yeah, sweeping the nation.
[20:57]
It's sweeping the nation and I will say that one of the – it has so far one of the things that I like about Korean movies.
[21:04]
I've watched a lot of Korean movies and so one of the things I like about it is that the characters will just suddenly yell at each other.
[21:08]
Yeah.
[21:09]
And you don't expect it.
[21:10]
Like characters in Korean movies are always on the verge of just hollering at each other out of nowhere.
[21:16]
Yes.
Elliott Kalan
[21:16]
But – and I really like that.
[21:18]
And I mentioned this to some coworkers of mine who are of Korean descent and they were like, yeah, that's how it is.
[21:27]
The – but yeah, I haven't seen too much.
[21:30]
I feel like I'm stuck in this cycle where the writer's room that I'm working in right now, everyone seems to watch the hit show – the hot shows right away.
[21:39]
And I haven't seen them yet.
[21:40]
And then by the time I watch them, everybody's on to a different show, which seems to be the way television works now is you kind of like gobble it up really fast and then forget about it.
[21:50]
Like until WandaVision, I think – until you mentioned it was nominated, I kind of forgot that I had seen that this year.
[21:56]
You know.
Stuart Wellington
[21:57]
I mean I feel like a lot of media, at least the way I feel a lot of folks consume – and myself included – consume media.
[22:05]
With me, it's a lot of like with music.
[22:09]
Every year I'm like, man, I haven't listened to that much music this year.
[22:13]
And then I go through my band camp thing and I'm like, holy shit, I bought like 100 albums?
Elliott Kalan
[22:18]
Yeah.
[22:18]
We seem to be at a point in the cycle now where even if the media itself is not disposable content-wise, it is used disposably.
[22:27]
Like we're kind of like speeding through stuff.
[22:29]
But I wonder if that's probably a side effect of feeling like there's so much out there that we like don't have time to waste sitting on it.
[22:37]
You know?
[22:38]
I wonder.
Stuart Wellington
[22:39]
Or just the feeling like, you know, I just have too many hours in the day.
[22:42]
Too much time to exist on this planet.
[22:45]
That unlike – some people are concerned that time is passing too quickly and we're getting old so quickly.
[22:51]
I don't think that's the case.
[22:53]
I think we all have plenty of time to just chill out and watch a bunch of shit.
[22:57]
I think this is – nope.
[22:58]
I mean I can't tell how sarcastic you're being.
[23:01]
It feels semi-sarcastic, but it's definitely not true for me.
[23:03]
You know, with that in mind –
Elliott Kalan
[23:04]
I mean I didn't get to have lunch today because I was too busy.
[23:07]
So that's where my TV watching is at, you know.
Stuart Wellington
[23:10]
Ellie, you got to switch to doing like protein shakes, maybe a salad.
[23:15]
You got to do something.
[23:16]
You got to bulk up I think.
Elliott Kalan
[23:16]
Well, the problem is that I have duck confit every day and I got to get it done right.
[23:20]
So if I don't have the time to make it work –
[23:22]
That takes forever.
[23:23]
I'm just not going to do it, you know.
[23:24]
But that's – because that's my lunch of choice.
[23:26]
It's delicious, you know.
[23:27]
Oh, no.
Stuart Wellington
[23:28]
Yeah, I mean you like what you like.
[23:29]
So interestingly enough, the Flophouse, including this episode, is sponsored in part by our sponsor who is explained about in a second by Dan.
[23:40]
He's explained about – yeah, sure.
Dan McCoy
[23:43]
That's one way we could have done it.
[23:45]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[23:45]
Thank you, our sponsor.
[23:48]
Dan, why don't you lift the curtain and reveal who the sponsor is this week?
Dan McCoy
[23:52]
This week's secret sponsor is Squarespace.
[23:58]
What?
[23:58]
Yeah, that's right.
[24:00]
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Elliott Kalan
[24:59]
Perfect.
[24:59]
You nailed it.
[25:00]
Good job, Dan.
[25:02]
Great Tia Stewart and great – you knocked it out of the park, Dan.
Dan McCoy
[25:05]
And I did a great job telling you.
[25:07]
You're both great.
[25:08]
Yeah, you're – yeah, great cheerleading, Elliot.
S4
[25:10]
I'm Lisa Hanawalt.
[25:12]
And I'm Emily Heller.
[25:13]
Nine years ago, we started a podcast to try and learn something new every episode.
Elliott Kalan
[25:17]
Things have gone a little off the rails since then.
S4
[25:19]
Tune in to hear about –
[25:21]
Low-stakes neighborhood drama.
[25:22]
Gardening.
[25:23]
The sordid, nasty underbelly of the horse-girl lifestyle.
[25:27]
Hot sauce.
[25:28]
Addiction to TV and sweaty takes on celebrity culture.
[25:31]
And the weirdest, grossest stuff you can find on wikipedia.org.
[25:35]
We'll read all of it no matter how gross.
[25:38]
There's something for everyone on our podcast, Baby Geniuses.
[25:41]
Hosted by us, two horny adult idiots.
[25:43]
Hang out with us as we try and fail to retain any knowledge at all.
[25:47]
Every other week on Maximum Fun.
Elliott Kalan
[25:50]
Baby geniuses tell us something we don't know.
S5
[25:52]
A man goes to the doctor and says that he's depressed and that life seems cruel.
[25:58]
The doctor says,
[25:59]
Ah, the treatment is simple.
[26:00]
The great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight.
[26:04]
Go and see him and you will surely feel better.
[26:07]
The man bursts into tears and says,
[26:10]
But doctor, I am Pagliacci.
[26:14]
Ah, okay, says the doctor.
[26:16]
Yeah, so we got two more segments.
Stuart Wellington
[26:38]
And we'll try and make these a little bit quick because I know you guys were really into the what are you watching segment.
[26:43]
So today, tonight we're going to do a little segment I like to call Bingeable or Cringable.
Dan McCoy
[26:50]
I love it.
[26:52]
I was hoping it was going to rhyme.
Elliott Kalan
[26:53]
So guys, it would be disappointing if the title was Bingeable or Not Bingeable.
[26:58]
That would have been disappointing.
[27:02]
Bingeable or Fungible.
[27:04]
Almost rhymes.
Dan McCoy
[27:05]
Or Spingeable.
[27:07]
I'm sorry I couldn't come up with a word.
Stuart Wellington
[27:10]
So, in this segment, I'm going to list the name of a popular television program.
[27:16]
And you are going to have to tell me whether you consider it to be bingeable or cringable.
[27:25]
First show.
[27:27]
The Great British Baking Show or Bake Off, depending on where you watch it.
[27:33]
Bingeable or cringable, guys?
Dan McCoy
[27:36]
To me, this is highly bingeable.
[27:38]
I love this show.
[27:40]
I watched much of it when it first came to Netflix.
[27:43]
But I've fallen off because it was very confusing in the early days which series were which.
[27:48]
You were like, what are they doing?
Elliott Kalan
[27:49]
I don't understand.
[27:50]
Too much continuity.
Dan McCoy
[27:52]
Netflix only bought seasons later on.
[27:55]
So, then I wanted to see the earlier ones.
[27:57]
But the early ones were like different format.
[28:00]
Not as good.
[28:01]
So, I understand why Netflix started where they are.
[28:03]
And then now they've got new hosts.
[28:05]
So, I fell off.
[28:05]
But, good show.
[28:08]
Bingeable.
Elliott Kalan
[28:09]
Really?
[28:09]
Yeah, certainly bingeable.
[28:10]
It's like, you know, I feel the same way about it that I do about like HGTV shows where I'm like, put it on.
[28:16]
Let it keep running.
[28:17]
Do something else while it's up there.
[28:18]
Check in every now and then.
[28:20]
Oh, that's charming.
[28:20]
Well, off we go.
[28:22]
Ooh, that marzipan didn't work out.
[28:24]
Okay, well, I'll check back in a few minutes.
[28:25]
That cookie's got a break.
[28:26]
Mm-hmm.
[28:26]
Yeah, that's what Christopher Walken yells with his psychic powers.
[28:30]
The cookie's gonna break.
[28:32]
The cookie's gonna break.
Stuart Wellington
[28:34]
The cookie is gonna break.
[28:38]
Okay, so.
Elliott Kalan
[28:39]
It's a Dead Zone reference for everyone at home.
[28:41]
Dead Zone.
[28:41]
Also, the Great British Baking Zone is what I guess you would call it.
Stuart Wellington
[28:45]
Dead Zone, I think they made a TV show out of that too, right?
[28:48]
They did.
[28:48]
I think it was Anthony Michael Hall who was playing Christopher Walken.
[28:51]
Oh, wow.
[28:52]
Cool.
[28:52]
Similar styles.
Elliott Kalan
[28:54]
He played sports columnist D-Zone.
[28:59]
The D-Zones are dead.
[29:01]
Oh, okay.
Dan McCoy
[29:02]
That guy just can't get away from weird science.
[29:06]
You know what I mean?
[29:08]
I mean, he can.
[29:09]
He's done lots of other things.
[29:10]
I do know what you mean.
[29:11]
I mean, he just runs into other science that's weird.
[29:13]
Weird science experiments, yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[29:15]
Okay, so the next show, guys, next television program,
[29:17]
this one's on Hot Out of the Ovens over at HBO Max.
[29:23]
That's right.
[29:24]
F-Boy Island.
[29:25]
The F stands for fuck.
[29:27]
Uh-huh.
[29:28]
F-Boy Island.
[29:30]
Bingeable or cringable?
[29:31]
Dan McCoy, what do you think?
Dan McCoy
[29:33]
I'm sure I could find it in my heart to binge it,
[29:38]
but it's not typically my kind of reality show.
Elliott Kalan
[29:43]
Oh, we got a cringe it from Dan.
[29:44]
Cringeable.
[29:45]
Elliot.
[29:46]
I'm torn because I don't – yeah, it's not my kind of show,
[29:49]
but like I'm friends of the friends of the host.
[29:52]
So like, you know, it's –
[29:54]
Yeah, that's true.
Stuart Wellington
[29:55]
Sarah, Nikki.
[29:56]
Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[29:56]
I mean, her old co-host, Sarah Schaefer,
[30:01]
is a friend of mine and also neighbor of mine.
[30:04]
But I mean, it's not like Sarah's hosting the show.
[30:06]
So you know what?
[30:07]
I'm going to say it's dirigible.
[30:09]
It's floating above me.
[30:10]
Wow.
Elliott Kalan
[30:10]
Okay.
[30:10]
I just can't reach it.
[30:11]
Don't know how to get to it.
Stuart Wellington
[30:12]
Okay.
[30:12]
Next program, we got another one of these reality shows.
[30:15]
That's right.
[30:16]
Wipe Out.
[30:18]
Wipe Out.
Dan McCoy
[30:20]
What happens?
Elliott Kalan
[30:21]
Is that the one where they knock people into pools?
[30:24]
Yes.
Dan McCoy
[30:25]
Okay.
[30:25]
Like just solely pools or do they knock people into other things?
[30:28]
Well, they knock them from a great height.
[30:30]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[30:31]
Well, not that great a height.
[30:33]
Height's not that great.
[30:34]
Let's not give it too much credit.
Dan McCoy
[30:35]
It's not like Alexander or anything.
[30:37]
Like is it just not people getting knocked into pools or is there other stuff?
Elliott Kalan
[30:40]
No, they got to like –
[30:41]
Other stuff.
[30:41]
They do a thing and if they don't do it, they fall in a pool or –
[30:44]
I haven't seen it.
Dan McCoy
[30:44]
I don't know.
[30:45]
Do they get like knocked into like one of those grocery store arrangements of cans
[30:50]
instead of a pool?
[30:51]
Maybe.
Stuart Wellington
[30:53]
Doesn't sound like you guys can come to a consensus as to whether or not it's bingeable
[30:56]
or cringable.
[30:57]
So we're just going to move on.
[30:59]
Frasier.
Dan McCoy
[31:01]
Frasier.
Stuart Wellington
[31:02]
Dan, is Frasier bingeable or cringable?
[31:05]
That's right.
[31:06]
Being rediscovered by today's youth.
[31:08]
The story of an old podcaster, his weird brother, and his cool dad.
Elliott Kalan
[31:14]
I feel like every six years, a new generation discovers Frasier for some reason.
[31:19]
There was – I don't remember – I don't think I've told this story before, but I was
[31:22]
working on a – the last show I worked on before I moved to L.A. was this kid's show
[31:26]
on Netflix called The Who Was Show.
[31:27]
And the writer's assistant on that show was a man in his mid-20s.
[31:31]
And he had just discovered Frasier.
[31:33]
And he would watch it and then come in the next day wanting to talk about the episode
[31:36]
he watched.
[31:36]
And I'd be like, sorry, dude.
[31:38]
I watched it 15 years ago.
[31:39]
I don't remember.
Stuart Wellington
[31:41]
There's like a Twitter account that just posts screenshots of Frasier staring outside
[31:46]
of his apartment window and replacing the backdrop with scenes from video games.
[31:53]
It's very entertaining.
Dan McCoy
[31:56]
I mean, I remember liking it at the time very much.
[31:59]
I mean, I'm sure like any old sitcom, there are parts of it that have not weathered the
[32:04]
age as well.
[32:05]
But I'm sure it's bingeable.
[32:07]
I worry that too much Frasier talk on this podcast is going to infringe on the McElroy's
[32:13]
copyright on discussing Frasier on a Maxxed podcast.
[32:16]
Did they copyright that?
Stuart Wellington
[32:17]
Is that a...
[32:18]
Yeah.
[32:19]
Okay.
[32:20]
I guess we'll...
[32:21]
Everybody just hit stop on this podcast and drag it and drop it in the garbage.
[32:25]
Yeah.
[32:26]
Just throw it in the Frasier can.
Elliott Kalan
[32:28]
I'm going to say bingeable.
[32:30]
Well-written show.
[32:30]
David Hyde Pierce is amazing.
[32:32]
I saw him in the Broadway show Curtains and he was delightful.
[32:34]
So yeah, I'm going to go with that.
Stuart Wellington
[32:36]
It's not a Flophouse episode unless Elliot dropped some bullshit on us.
Elliott Kalan
[32:39]
The late John Mahoney I also saw in a show at the Paper Mill Playhouse in New Jersey.
[32:43]
He was also great.
[32:43]
And you know what?
[32:45]
I saw Jane Leaves in a show of Monty Python material at the...
[32:49]
Was it the Town Hall Theater in New York?
[32:50]
So I've seen most of the cast of that show on stage.
[32:52]
Wow.
[32:52]
So yeah, they'll binge it.
Dan McCoy
[32:53]
You got to catch them all though, Elliot.
Stuart Wellington
[32:55]
Yeah, I know.
[32:55]
I haven't seen Kelsey.
[32:56]
I haven't seen the Kels.
[32:57]
Yeah, you haven't gone to one of his upstate New York grocery store appearances where he
[33:03]
sells his freedom beer or whatever the fuck he's doing right now?
[33:06]
No, I haven't done that.
Stuart Wellington
[33:06]
Yeah, I kind of wish I'd caught him earlier in his political career.
Elliott Kalan
[33:10]
The book of Kels is not one that I really want to read right now.
[33:12]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[33:13]
Okay.
[33:14]
So one more we got...
[33:15]
That's some bad grammar.
[33:16]
Let me tell you.
Elliott Kalan
[33:17]
Oh, fuck.
[33:18]
But still, separate the art from the artist.
[33:20]
Go ahead and watch Frasier.
[33:22]
Sure.
Dan McCoy
[33:23]
Sorry.
[33:23]
I'm just reeling the book of Kels.
[33:26]
That almost...
[33:28]
You almost flew that one under the radar.
[33:30]
But...
[33:30]
I'm saying...
Elliott Kalan
[33:30]
That was just for the Celtic fans in the audience.
[33:33]
It's all right.
Stuart Wellington
[33:34]
Last program.
[33:35]
Last program.
[33:35]
Bingeable or cringable?
[33:38]
Columbo.
Dan McCoy
[33:40]
Oh, very bingeable.
[33:42]
We've been watching some of it, actually, in lockdown.
Elliott Kalan
[33:46]
It's super bingeable, but I have to say, and this is going to sound like I'm biting the
[33:49]
hand that feeds it, because people send me a lot of Columbo material on Twitter, and I'm
[33:53]
very happy about it.
[33:54]
But I feel like at this point, Columbo is reaching that level where it's so beloved
[34:01]
that I start feeling a knee-jerk reaction to not like it anymore, which is all inside
[34:06]
of me, which is bad, because it's a great show, and I love Peter Falk in it, obviously,
[34:09]
and all the guest stars.
[34:10]
It's a snapshot of Hollywood at the time.
[34:12]
But I guess I'm looking for the show.
[34:15]
I'm the kind of guy who's like, what's the Columbo-type show that only I know about, and
[34:19]
nobody else is telling me about it?
[34:20]
That's the kind of jerk I am.
[34:22]
Kolchak the Night Stalker.
[34:23]
No, I don't want to watch Kolchak.
[34:24]
It's never as good as I want it to be.
[34:26]
It's too scary.
[34:28]
I can't sleep at night when I watch Kolchak.
Dan McCoy
[34:30]
Oh, Darren McGavin, look out for that mummy.
[34:33]
No, I'm just...
[34:34]
That's Elliot.
Elliott Kalan
[34:34]
I have my blanket over my head, because I don't want Darren McGavin to come into my room
[34:39]
at night and scare me.
Stuart Wellington
[34:41]
So that was Bingeable or Cringeable.
[34:43]
Let's move on to the final segment of the night.
[34:45]
That's right.
[34:45]
We are doing Dinner and a Show, brought to you by Hulu.
[34:51]
Is it?
[34:52]
No, but it's not really brought to you by Hulu.
[34:54]
Not technically, but I mean...
Elliott Kalan
[34:55]
I mean, we have a sponsor, Squarespace.
[34:57]
Please patronize them.
[34:58]
They're paying us.
[34:59]
Hulu is not paying us.
Stuart Wellington
[35:01]
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to list the...
[35:03]
Have you guys tried that new Hulu hoop?
Elliott Kalan
[35:05]
It's a toy for kids that has one show you're really into, and then that show drops off the
[35:10]
service, and you're about to cancel it, and then another show you like comes on.
Stuart Wellington
[35:14]
Wow.
[35:14]
Interesting.
[35:15]
Okay.
[35:15]
Take that Hulu.
[35:17]
Take that Hulu.
[35:18]
Hulu original program, and you're going to tell me when you're settling in for the night
[35:23]
to watch this program, and what meal you would either order or make to go along with that
[35:31]
show.
[35:32]
Okay.
[35:33]
Okay.
[35:34]
Yeah.
[35:34]
I know Elliot.
[35:36]
Elliot is quite a gourmand, and Dan loves to make some bread and whatnot, so hopefully we'll
[35:42]
get some exciting answers here.
[35:43]
I've had Dan's whatnot.
[35:44]
It's delicious.
[35:45]
Yeah.
[35:46]
Okay.
[35:47]
Okay.
[35:47]
So the first program is Deadbeat.
[35:52]
You don't remember it?
[35:53]
There were three seasons, 36 episodes.
[35:56]
What?
Elliott Kalan
[35:57]
Something with beats.
[35:58]
Something with beats in it, like a beet salad, maybe?
Stuart Wellington
[36:01]
It's an American supernatural comedy series.
Elliott Kalan
[36:05]
Uh-huh.
[36:06]
Oh, I remember that one.
[36:07]
That's the one.
[36:07]
Is that the one where they had the ads all over New York where there's kind of like a
[36:11]
sad guy with a beard holding a balloon that looked like a ghost?
[36:14]
Yes, I think that's correct.
[36:15]
Okay, yeah.
[36:16]
I never saw the show, but I remember the ads for it.
[36:18]
Yeah, something with beats.
[36:19]
Oh, okay.
[36:20]
Something with beats, Dan.
[36:20]
Because also the beet juice looks like blood, so it's harry.
[36:23]
You got anything to add here, Dan?
Dan McCoy
[36:26]
Just make sure those beets are dead before you eat them.
Elliott Kalan
[36:29]
Oh, yeah.
[36:30]
You don't want them grabbing onto the inside of your throat as they go down, trying to
[36:33]
kill you before you can kill them.
[36:34]
Sure.
Stuart Wellington
[36:35]
That was an outtake from the movie Old Boy, where they went to a restaurant that serves
[36:40]
live beets.
[36:42]
So, the next one is Devs.
Elliott Kalan
[36:48]
Oh, that's the show where I refused to watch it because I couldn't figure out what it was
[36:51]
about ahead of time.
Dan McCoy
[36:52]
It's about developers, I assume?
[36:55]
Is that with Nick Offerman, right?
Stuart Wellington
[36:58]
Created, written, and directed by Alex Garland.
[37:01]
Hmm.
[37:02]
Science fiction thriller.
[37:04]
Right.
[37:04]
Nick Offerman is in it.
[37:06]
Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[37:07]
Right, the Alex Garland thing.
Elliott Kalan
[37:09]
That was back when I was going through a phase when I wanted to know a little bit about the
[37:12]
show before I started watching them, and I couldn't find anything about what Devs was about.
[37:16]
So, I would probably serve fried chicken.
[37:19]
Yeah.
[37:19]
It's the best.
Dan McCoy
[37:20]
And I guess if it's an Alex Garland show, I would serve a single grape inside an ice cube.
[37:31]
Oh.
[37:32]
Because it would be sort of cold and austere and mysterious.
[37:36]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[37:37]
Little high concept.
[37:38]
I like this.
[37:40]
Okay.
Elliott Kalan
[37:40]
I'm still going to go with fried chicken.
[37:42]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[37:43]
We're moving a little bit closer to more modern, so maybe you guys have a better chance of
[37:48]
having seen these.
[37:48]
Yeah.
[37:48]
These old, old shows like Devs, which is what, three years old?
[37:52]
Come on.
[37:52]
Forget about it.
[37:53]
Uh-huh.
[37:54]
So, we are...
[37:57]
How about the Hulu original Doll Face?
Dan McCoy
[38:01]
Doll Face.
[38:02]
Now, does this have anything to do with Doll Man versus Demonic Toys?
[38:06]
It unfortunately does not.
[38:08]
Just his face.
[38:08]
I knew you were going to ask that.
[38:09]
Just his face.
Elliott Kalan
[38:10]
Just the face of Doll Man.
[38:11]
Yeah.
[38:12]
I haven't seen it.
[38:13]
I'm going to go fried chicken, I think.
[38:15]
Yeah.
[38:15]
I think I'm going to say fried chicken for this one.
[38:17]
Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[38:17]
That's a surprise, but you know...
[38:19]
I'm going to have some soup.
[38:21]
Okay.
[38:22]
What kind of soup, Dan?
[38:23]
Just comforting.
[38:23]
Just comforting.
[38:23]
You're a maker of soups.
[38:25]
What's a go-to soup for Dan McCoy?
Dan McCoy
[38:28]
You know what's good?
[38:29]
You get a Tuscan bean soup.
[38:30]
You put some sausage in there, some white beans, some kale.
[38:34]
Maybe throw a hunk of Parmesan in.
[38:36]
What?
[38:37]
Just throw it right in there.
[38:39]
Check it in.
Elliott Kalan
[38:40]
I imagine you're sitting down with Audrey for dinner and you go, hey, do you want a hunk
[38:44]
in your soup?
[38:44]
And you hold up the Parmesan, but then you dip your own hand in.
[38:47]
Oh, fuck.
[38:48]
Did you do that for real?
[38:51]
Dan, did you do that?
Stuart Wellington
[38:52]
And she says, please pour me a new bowl of soup.
[38:53]
Did you do that for real?
[38:54]
Your hand was in this one.
Dan McCoy
[38:54]
There's nothing in the rule book that says I can't.
Stuart Wellington
[38:56]
I can't believe you did that.
[38:57]
For real?
[38:59]
Okay.
[39:01]
That's crazy.
[39:02]
For real?
[39:03]
Okay.
[39:03]
So we got one last one.
[39:06]
This is ripped from the headlines.
[39:08]
One last one.
[39:09]
Why the last man?
[39:12]
Now, what headline is that ripped from?
[39:14]
The headline of new show on Hulu.
Elliott Kalan
[39:17]
The headline of why the last man adapted for television.
[39:20]
Finally adapted.
[39:21]
They finally made it.
Dan McCoy
[39:24]
They did it.
[39:25]
This version doesn't have, what, who are they going to have at one point?
[39:29]
Deuce Bigelow.
[39:30]
What's his name?
[39:31]
Rob Schneider.
[39:32]
Rob Schneider is supposed to.
[39:33]
I don't believe that was ever the case.
[39:35]
What?
[39:35]
Some sort of comedy version of this at one point.
[39:38]
Really?
[39:39]
That would be a very different story.
[39:40]
Let me look it up.
[39:41]
Maybe he was going to play the monkey.
[39:43]
I don't know.
Stuart Wellington
[39:44]
Did you guys read the comic book?
[39:47]
It's based on a comic book.
[39:48]
I read the whole comic book.
Elliott Kalan
[39:50]
I have not yet seen the show.
Stuart Wellington
[39:51]
Okay.
[39:52]
I only read the first trade and did not like it.
[39:57]
I like that.
[39:57]
You know what?
[39:58]
Well, I'm a fucking curmudgeon when it comes to that shit.
[40:01]
That's true.
[40:01]
You are a curmudgeon.
Dan McCoy
[40:03]
I think I'm confusing a few things.
[40:05]
I think that there was a movie that had basically the same premise that was a comedy version that Rob Schneider was attached to.
[40:14]
Are you thinking of Deuce Bigelow, Last Man on Earth?
[40:17]
And then, I don't know.
[40:19]
I know that there was some weird version of it that it's, you know.
[40:23]
I mean, they've been working on it for years.
Elliott Kalan
[40:24]
So, that makes sense.
[40:25]
But it's finally here.
[40:26]
And you know what?
[40:27]
Nothing goes better with Dystopia than Big Plate of Fried Chicken.
[40:31]
Let's go for it.
[40:32]
Okay.
[40:32]
Big Plate of Fried Chicken.
[40:33]
Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[40:33]
So, Elliot is doing fried chicken.
[40:36]
Dan, what are you going to bring to this meal?
Dan McCoy
[40:39]
We're going to have a Swanson Hungry Why the Last Man dinner.
Stuart Wellington
[40:44]
Oh, okay.
[40:45]
What's the feature there?
[40:46]
Is it meatloaf?
[40:47]
Is it a?
[40:48]
Fried chicken.
[40:49]
Fried chicken.
[40:50]
Okay.
[40:52]
Okay.
[40:52]
Fried chicken across the board.
[40:53]
Okay, guys.
Elliott Kalan
[40:54]
It's what I would want if I was the last man.
[40:55]
Sure.
[40:56]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[40:56]
So, I'm glad that segment went.
[40:59]
I feel like that was the strongest segment.
[41:00]
I'm glad I saved it for the very end.
[41:03]
I have two, Stu.
[41:03]
This is.
[41:04]
Yeah.
[41:05]
This has been another rousing.
Elliott Kalan
[41:07]
Stu, if any of the segments weren't strong, it was only contestant error.
[41:11]
It was not at all a matter of the operator of the games or the show.
[41:14]
Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[41:15]
Yeah.
[41:15]
I mean, the careful mousetrap that I've created with this episode.
[41:21]
So, yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[41:22]
Who knew when you asked two professional television writers about what they thought about current
[41:27]
shows, they would not know any of them pretty much?
Dan McCoy
[41:29]
They'd be like, oh, is that TV?
[41:32]
What is that?
[41:34]
Is After Mash still on the air?
[41:37]
Yeah, yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[41:38]
And if you were to ask me, I'd be like, do cut scenes in video games count as shows?
[41:44]
Why no Emmys for Mass Effect?
[41:46]
What's going on?
[41:47]
I mean, that's.
[41:48]
I mean, if it's Andromeda, I get it.
[41:52]
So, this has been Two Boy Talking Tube to Two Dudes tonight.
[41:57]
That's right.
[41:58]
Which is a part of the Flophouse podcast.
[42:02]
The Flophouse is on the Maximum Fun Network.
[42:04]
And I don't know.
[42:05]
I think we're still part of the Maximum Fun Block Party, which is a great time, obviously,
[42:11]
to pick up a new show.
[42:12]
If you're a new listener, I'm sorry.
[42:13]
I don't know why you're still listening.
[42:15]
Maybe you are folding laundry and just forgot to hit stop.
[42:23]
Forgot.
Dan McCoy
[42:24]
There was something I was going to do relating to sound.
Elliott Kalan
[42:28]
Let me check my to-do list.
[42:29]
Laundry.
[42:30]
I did that.
[42:31]
Yeah.
[42:32]
Post office.
[42:33]
Yeah, somebody's folding laundry.
Dan McCoy
[42:34]
Throw podcast away in anger.
[42:35]
That's the thing.
[42:36]
I forgot.
Stuart Wellington
[42:37]
That's what I haven't done yet.
[42:38]
Well, that's.
[42:38]
And they're like, okay.
[42:39]
Like, I don't like this show, but it's.
[42:42]
They said it's a mini.
[42:43]
It's going to be wrapping up soon.
[42:44]
40 minutes.
[42:46]
It's probably no more than 10 minutes long at the most.
[42:49]
At the most to earn the name mini.
[42:52]
Yeah, so we're on the Maximum Fun Network.
[42:54]
There's a ton of really great shows.
[42:56]
If you like this for some reason, there's probably much better shows for you to listen to.
[43:00]
Thank you to our producer, Alex.
Elliott Kalan
[43:02]
At a certain point, I think we might be doing ourselves a disservice by underselling so much.
Stuart Wellington
[43:06]
Oh, I mean, that's.
[43:08]
It's this false humility that I like to adopt.
[43:10]
You know, normally.
[43:11]
Yeah, that's true.
[43:11]
That's true.
[43:12]
When the.
[43:13]
I didn't know you were adopting.
[43:14]
When the microphones.
[43:18]
Chickal marks, everybody.
[43:21]
Yeah, when the microphones are off, I am prone to fits of grandiose hubris where I.
[43:28]
As soon as.
[43:29]
Run around my apartment in this bathrobe.
[43:31]
As soon as the recording is over.
Elliott Kalan
[43:33]
Throwing money around.
[43:34]
He still just goes, nailed it, nailed it, nailed it.
[43:37]
Best ever.
[43:38]
And he throws a big after party in a warehouse somewhere.
[43:40]
Like, after every taping of SNL.
Stuart Wellington
[43:43]
Yep, that's me.
[43:44]
Oh, wow.
[43:46]
Thank you to Alex Smith for making this episode sound great.
[43:50]
Like all the episodes.
[43:52]
I've been Stuart Wellington for the Flophouse.
Dan McCoy
[43:55]
I've been Dan McCoy for the Flophouse.
Elliott Kalan
[43:57]
I've been Ellie Kalin from the Flophouse.
[43:59]
Bye.
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Stuart's most ostentatiously-named mini format makes a triumphant return, as he talks to us about the Emmys, and current TV in general.
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