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Stuart Wellington
[0:00] Hey! It's me, Stuart of the Flop House.
[0:08] And I'm one of those...
[0:10] Bursting into people's ears.
Elliott Kalan
[0:12] Hey!
[0:13] Like if Porky Pig was at the beginning of the cartoon.
Stuart Wellington
[0:18] More people would watch Looney Tunes.
[0:22] Looney Tunes?
[0:22] That's what it is.
[0:23] That's why they got cancelled.
Dan McCoy
[0:25] Looney Tunes got cancelled because not enough people were watching.
Stuart Wellington
[0:28] Yeah, no Porky in the front.
[0:30] Okay.
[0:32] Porky in the front, party in the back.
[0:34] Gross, dude.
[0:36] I was trying to keep a clean podcast for a change.
[0:39] So I'm one of the three hosts of the Flop House podcast.
[0:42] Joined with me are my two co-hosts who will introduce themselves now.
[0:46] I'm Dan McCoy.
Elliott Kalan
[0:47] I'm Elliot Kalin.
[0:49] That's right.
[0:50] Himself.
[0:50] That guy from the Flop House.
[0:52] How'd they get me?
[0:53] I'm always here.
[0:54] Thanks.
Stuart Wellington
[0:54] Now tonight we're...
Dan McCoy
[0:56] Now, Stuart, have you said your name?
Stuart Wellington
[0:58] Oh, yeah.
[0:58] Because I don't think you have.
[0:59] I think I said I was Stuart from the Flop House.
[1:01] Stuart Wellington.
[1:03] You did change your last name to From the Flop House.
[1:06] Stuart from the Flop House.
[1:08] Yeah.
[1:09] Legally.
[1:10] So we're a podcast about bad movies normally, but you're tuning into one of our mini episodes,
[1:15] which we're recording tonight, and we are not going to be doing what we normally do, which
[1:20] is watching a bad movie and then reviewing it.
[1:22] No, no, no.
[1:23] We are doing something special because as you guys, I'm sure, have been checking your calendars,
[1:28] it is the nine-month anniversary of the now classic Flop House mini.
[1:34] So we are doing the next episode.
[1:36] That's right.
[1:37] Tonight, we are doing Two Boy Talking Tube to Two Dudes tonight.
[1:41] That's right.
Elliott Kalan
[1:43] I was literally, I was thinking about this the other day for random reasons and could
[1:48] not remember the full title.
[1:49] I could not bring it into my mind.
[1:51] So can you say it again?
Stuart Wellington
[1:52] Yeah.
[1:53] It's Two Boy Talking Tube to Two Dudes tonight.
[1:55] That's right.
[1:56] Because let's just break this down.
[1:58] It's the that's right that I always forget.
[2:01] Let's break this down.
[2:02] Two Boy, that's me, Stuart Wellington.
[2:04] The two dudes.
[2:05] Of the Flop House.
[2:06] Yep.
[2:06] It's Dan Nelliot from the Flop House.
[2:09] Talking Tube means we're going to be talking boob tube.
[2:11] We're not talking movies.
[2:12] We're talking about the small screen.
[2:13] That's right.
[2:14] Things you can watch on your phone.
[2:16] And then we're going to be doing it tonight.
[2:18] And it's all right because we're going to be doing it.
[2:20] And you can't stop us.
[2:21] Unless you turn off the podcast, which would make me very bummed.
Dan McCoy
[2:24] Yeah.
[2:25] Yeah.
[2:25] There's a pretty easy way to stop us.
[2:28] Don't say that, Dan.
[2:29] Literally a button that is a stop button.
[2:33] Now, Stuart, I'm sorry.
[2:34] I wasn't paying attention before.
[2:36] What anniversary?
Stuart Wellington
[2:37] Two Boy talking to Two Dudes tonight.
[2:39] That's right.
[2:40] Which anniversary are we at?
[2:41] Nine months.
[2:42] Nine months.
[2:43] Nine months.
Elliott Kalan
[2:44] So for anyone who conceived on the night that we first did this,
[2:49] now the baby is here.
[2:50] Take it to the hospital.
Stuart Wellington
[2:52] Quite possible.
[2:53] It was an exciting night.
Elliott Kalan
[2:54] It's an overlong title.
Stuart Wellington
[2:56] Okay.
[2:56] So we're talking TV, guys.
[2:58] We're not talking movies.
[2:59] So, of course, the first thing that everybody wants to talk about, that's right, the Emmys.
[3:04] The Emmys were a thing that happened recently.
[3:06] Awards were given out to different shows.
[3:08] Not that recently.
Elliott Kalan
[3:08] I mean, it's recently in terms of a few weeks.
[3:10] I mean, it's not recent in that.
[3:12] It's like...
[3:12] Geologic scale.
Dan McCoy
[3:13] That's true.
[3:14] I guess...
[3:15] Good point.
[3:16] You pulled that one on me last time.
Elliott Kalan
[3:18] On the geologic scale, it hasn't even happened yet.
[3:20] Yes.
Stuart Wellington
[3:20] So, let's just start this off.
[3:23] I'm going to start with Outstanding Comedy Series.
[3:27] The winner was Ted Lasso.
[3:30] What do you think, Dan?
Dan McCoy
[3:32] Well, I didn't follow the Emmys at all this year.
[3:37] Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[3:38] Now it's your chance.
[3:39] So I have no idea.
[3:40] We're just rapping.
Dan McCoy
[3:41] You don't have to be an expert.
[3:43] I'm just saying I don't know what else was nominated.
Stuart Wellington
[3:45] So I cannot...
[3:46] Oh, I got it right here, Dan.
[3:48] Okay.
[3:48] There you go.
[3:49] It was up against Black-ish, Cobra Kai...
[3:52] Sure.
[3:53] Emily in Paris, The Flight Attendant, Hacks, The Kaminsky Method, which I swear is not a real show.
[4:04] Yeah.
[4:05] Okay.
[4:07] You can...
[4:08] There's nothing you can say to convince me that this is an actual show that I can watch.
[4:13] And Pen15.
Dan McCoy
[4:15] Okay.
[4:16] Well, with the caveat that I have not seen Pen15, which I understand is very good.
[4:22] I would say that of that crop, it certainly deserved it.
[4:28] The only way I was going to say it didn't is that it is of that kind of comedy that is often more gently amusing than Laugh Out Loud Funny.
[4:38] Like, I enjoy being with the characters more than I have a hearty belly laugh.
[4:42] But Dan, remember...
Stuart Wellington
[4:43] It's based entirely on not having watched it, but impressions you've had from people talking about it?
Dan McCoy
[4:48] No, I'm talking about Ted Lasso.
[4:51] Oh, Ted Lasso.
[4:51] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[4:52] You have watched it.
[4:52] Yeah.
[4:53] I have watched that show.
[4:54] I'm saying the only reason I wouldn't have possibly said that it was the best of that Motley Crue is maybe if you're arguing that it wasn't enough of a comedy.
Elliott Kalan
[5:06] Now, if it was Motley Crue, which member of the band would Ted Lasso be?
Stuart Wellington
[5:09] That's actually a really good...
[5:10] Nikki Sixx?
[5:11] I was going to save that for a later segment.
[5:13] Oh, sorry, sorry.
[5:13] But we can do it right now.
Dan McCoy
[5:15] Yeah, is it Nikki Sixx, Dan, or is it...
[5:17] Yeah, it is.
[5:18] Since that's the only member of Motley Crue, I would have been able to...
Elliott Kalan
[5:21] Or would it be Tommy Lee?
[5:22] Because they have the same initials.
[5:23] Tommy Lee, Ted Lasso, same initials.
[5:25] Wow.
[5:25] Oh, there you go.
[5:26] Wow.
[5:26] Crack the code.
[5:27] The Bible code.
[5:28] Ellie, do you have any opinions on this?
[5:30] I haven't seen...
[5:31] To be honest, I haven't seen most of those shows.
[5:33] I still haven't seen Ted Lasso.
[5:36] My boss's wife...
[5:37] My boss's husband works for that show, so I can't...
[5:40] Even if I had seen it, I wouldn't say anything negative about it.
[5:42] Oh, okay.
[5:43] Okay.
[5:43] But I haven't seen it yet.
[5:44] But I will say, Dan, that gentle comedy that is not laugh out loud funny but is kind of pleasant
[5:48] is kind of where...
[5:50] It seems to be kind of where comedy is right now in a lot of ways.
[5:53] Yeah.
[5:53] After Schitt's Creek, which is a fine show that I enjoy, swept last year.
[5:58] But it's not a show where I watch it and I'm like, I cannot wait to have my sides split
[6:02] open from laughter.
[6:03] It's a show where I'm like, this is going to be fun.
[6:05] This is going to be fun.
Dan McCoy
[6:06] I mean, I know what you're saying, but I think that the actors were so talented in creating
[6:14] those specific characters that I would laugh heartily at a lot of it, even if, yeah, maybe
[6:19] joke writing wasn't that show's strongest suit.
Elliott Kalan
[6:23] I mean, I think it's a really well...
[6:25] That show's a really well-written show.
[6:26] It's a really well-performed show.
[6:27] I love everybody on it.
[6:28] It's more...
[6:28] I think it's just not what they're...
[6:29] They're not going for a show that is like 30 Rock, where it's like hitting you over the
[6:34] head with punchlines constantly.
[6:35] You know, literally punching you in the face with jokes.
[6:37] And I said, literally.
[6:38] Yeah, constantly.
[6:38] Because it's not a metaphor.
[6:40] Tina Fey's hand reaches out of the screen and punches you with a joke every time.
[6:44] But yeah, I haven't seen Ted Leslie yet.
[6:46] Sort of a Videodrome thing.
[6:47] Yeah.
[6:47] Oh, that's what happens in Videodrome.
[6:50] James Woods was like, I can't take all these jokes.
[6:53] The new flesh is too funny.
Stuart Wellington
[6:57] Obviously, the problem is that the best comedy show, What We Do in the Shadows, was not even
[7:02] nominated, which is a...
[7:03] Well, it was not eligible that year.
[7:05] Oh, it wasn't?
[7:06] Yeah, because of its broadcast.
[7:06] Too many vampires?
[7:07] Oh, okay.
Elliott Kalan
[7:07] Yeah, they passed a vampire rule because of its broadcast schedule.
Dan McCoy
[7:10] Too many vampires.
[7:12] Like, oh, no, those vampires are going to show up when we filmed them for the Emmys.
[7:15] We can't have...
Stuart Wellington
[7:16] Jesse Thorne came in and made sure that no Draculas were allowed.
Elliott Kalan
[7:19] Mm-hmm.
[7:20] There were two issues.
[7:21] One was, yeah, if they win, you're just going to see an empty stage because the Draculas are
[7:25] not...
[7:26] And then a word trophy that floats in the air because they don't show up on film or video.
[7:29] But also because you don't want that many vampires loose in amongst Hollywood's brightest
[7:35] stars.
[7:35] No.
[7:35] They're just going to go crazy with the eating and the blood sucking.
[7:38] And then what's going to happen...
Stuart Wellington
[7:38] Yeah, the only Hollywood vampires I want is a celebrity rock and roll band featuring Johnny
[7:43] Depp and a couple other turds.
[7:45] I mean, counterpoint, Elliot, if you have a bunch of vampires...
[7:49] Wait, what if the band was called Johnny Depp and a couple other turds?
[7:53] Then I would assume they're all vampires and just trying to throw me off the scent by talking
[7:57] about turds.
[7:58] Come on in.
[7:59] There's no vampires here.
[8:00] Just a bunch of harmless turds.
Dan McCoy
[8:02] Now, counterpoint, Elliot, to what you were saying.
[8:05] You know, if it's a celebration of Hollywood's best and brightest, maybe unleashing vampires
[8:12] would just ensure that those people would stay young and vital forever.
Stuart Wellington
[8:17] It's certainly easier than having to CGI digital ghost versions of them forever and ever.
Elliott Kalan
[8:23] I guess that's true.
[8:24] I mean, the question is, are the vampires going to bite them and make them part of their flock
[8:29] or are they going to tear them apart in an orgy of bloodlust?
[8:32] What kind of vamps are we talking?
[8:34] Exactly.
[8:35] It's too big a question mark for a professional award ceremony.
[8:39] Guys, we've got to move on.
Stuart Wellington
[8:40] We've only scratched the surface of this.
[8:42] I thought this was two guys talking teeth tonight, vampires specifically.
[8:46] I'll write tonight, that's right.
[8:47] We'll be talking vamps later.
[8:49] Don't worry.
[8:50] The after show talking vamps.
[8:52] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[8:54] Next is Outstanding Drama Series.
[8:57] Winner is The Crown.
[9:01] The Crown.
Elliott Kalan
[9:01] And, of course, the television adaptation of Larry Crown starring Tom Hanks.
[9:04] Haven't seen the movie, haven't seen the show, don't know how accurate it is.
Dan McCoy
[9:08] Yeah, again, this is one where I have not seen any of The Crown, so I cannot speak to the
[9:13] quality of that program.
Elliott Kalan
[9:14] This show richly deserved the award for Outstanding Show that My Wife Falls Asleep to
[9:18] While I Do the Dishes in the Other Room.
Stuart Wellington
[9:20] Yeah, that sounds good.
[9:21] So it was up against The Boys, Bridgerton, The Handmaid's Tale, Lovecraft Country, The
[9:32] Mandalorian, Pose.
[9:36] This is us.
Dan McCoy
[9:40] Well, seeing as of those shows, I only have seen all of the second season of The Boys.
[9:51] And, yeah, I don't know.
[9:54] The Mandalorian I saw a couple episodes of, but not this new season.
Elliott Kalan
[9:57] Yeah, I've only seen a couple episodes of The Mandalorian.
[9:59] I've seen all of the first season of Pose, but I only just started the second season, which
[10:02] is the one this award would be for.
[10:06] And I haven't.
[10:07] What sticks out to me the most is This Is Us being on there, because there's like,
[10:10] is that the only network show on the list?
Stuart Wellington
[10:13] I think it, yes.
[10:17] Yeah, I guess FX doesn't count as a network show.
Elliott Kalan
[10:19] I would call, well, I mean cable.
[10:20] I mean non-cable, non-streaming.
[10:22] Yeah.
[10:23] Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[10:23] I mean, like, yeah, The Boys was a fine show to fold my laundry to.
[10:28] I wouldn't, I don't think I would nominate it for.
[10:30] Well, it did win.
[10:31] It did win.
Stuart Wellington
[10:31] I certainly think the second season is an improvement over the first season.
Dan McCoy
[10:35] It won Outstanding Drama at the Foldies.
[10:38] Yeah.
[10:38] Okay.
[10:40] Is that just other forms of entertainment that you fold things during?
Elliott Kalan
[10:45] Yeah, yeah.
[10:45] I mean, there's television, film, music, someone reading a newspaper article or magazine article
[10:51] to you.
[10:52] Sounds like.
[10:53] No podcast category.
[10:54] Very strange.
[10:54] A real, weird oversight for the Foldies.
Stuart Wellington
[10:56] Yeah, you would think.
[10:57] So, it sounds like we have some really firm opinions on this category.
[11:00] Let's just jump ahead to Outstanding Limited or Anthology Series.
Elliott Kalan
[11:05] You're really seeing how little television we seem to be watching in our regular lives.
[11:09] Okay.
[11:10] This is Limited Series or Minimal Series?
Stuart Wellington
[11:12] Yep.
[11:13] The winner is The Queen's Gambit.
[11:18] Other shows in the category, other nominees.
[11:21] I May Destroy You, Mayor O'East Town, The Underground Railroad, WandaVision.
Elliott Kalan
[11:32] I mean, Queen's Gambit and WandaVision are the only ones in those series
[11:35] where I've seen all of both of them.
[11:37] Oh, wow.
[11:38] But I saw a little bit of Underground Railroad and I thought that was good too.
[11:41] And I saw a little bit of, what was some of the other ones?
Stuart Wellington
[11:44] I May Destroy You is great.
Elliott Kalan
[11:46] It is super intense.
[11:48] Well, it's the thing.
[11:49] We watch the first episode every time we're about to watch the second episode.
[11:51] We're like, do we really have it?
[11:53] We're tired.
[11:53] Do we really have it in us to watch this show right now?
Dan McCoy
[11:56] Yeah.
[11:56] Yeah.
[11:57] This is so weird to realize that in previous days when there was no pandemic, I would have
[12:05] seen, I think, more of the things that were big than that.
[12:10] I just haven't found myself watching television the same way.
[12:16] I don't know.
[12:16] I saw all of WandaVision and then we watched the Queen's Gambit, like, I don't know, about
[12:22] half of it.
[12:23] And neither of us seemed to be quite excited enough to push through the end.
Elliott Kalan
[12:27] Oh, I really liked the Queen's Gambit.
[12:29] I found the very ending of it to be kind of anticlimactic.
[12:32] But I liked the Queen's Gambit a lot.
Stuart Wellington
[12:32] I mean, I certainly liked the outfits and the hotel rooms.
[12:35] Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[12:36] The production design looked – and so much of that, I'm sure, was also like mixing real
[12:42] sets with CGI recreation, you know, of the time period, which is –
Stuart Wellington
[12:46] Get Todd Viziri to weigh in on that one.
Dan McCoy
[12:49] The production design was beautiful.
[12:52] The clothes were beautiful.
[12:54] I love Anya Taylor-Joy and basically everything I've seen her in.
[12:57] I thought the supporting cast was great as well.
[12:58] You've never mentioned that before, Dan.
[13:00] But –
[13:00] Have I?
Elliott Kalan
[13:01] I remember you did start the hashtag NotMyPrincessPeach trending on Twitter.
[13:06] So that seems to go against what you're saying.
Stuart Wellington
[13:08] Like, can't you be normal now?
Dan McCoy
[13:10] But I also got this feeling from that show that it's like a deeply silly show that was
[13:15] trying to pretend it was important.
Elliott Kalan
[13:18] Oh, I don't know about that.
[13:19] I think it was a show that was, I think, maybe attempting to hide how melodramatic it
[13:24] was at times.
[13:25] But it's funny that it and WandaVision were both nominated because WandaVision is
[13:31] a superhero show.
[13:32] And The Queen's Gambit is a chess drama that kind of takes the form of a superhero show
[13:36] in a way.
[13:37] Where, like, her superpower is chess.
[13:39] Yeah.
[13:40] And there's something funny about – and she builds her kind of, like, team of – her
[13:46] support team of side heroes and stuff like that.
[13:50] Yeah.
[13:50] Yeah.
[13:51] I don't know.
[13:51] I haven't seen most of the other ones.
[13:52] I watched the first episode of Mare of Ace Town and I was like, hmm, I don't think I'm
[13:56] into murder shows these days.
[13:57] Yeah.
[13:58] I don't want to be taking the wrong –
Stuart Wellington
[13:59] But the accents, dude.
[14:01] And Guy Pearce with long hair.
Elliott Kalan
[14:03] If it was just called Guy Pearce with long hair and it was just him going around doing
[14:06] stuff, taking his shirt off, putting it back on, I'd watch that show every episode.
Stuart Wellington
[14:09] Yeah.
[14:10] So I did the thing that I do a lot.
[14:12] And when I was watching – not to be too much of a spoiler, but there is a romantic
[14:16] relationship between Guy Pearce and Kate Winslet.
[14:19] So I was like, hmm, how old are they really?
[14:23] And obviously Guy Pearce is a little bit older.
[14:26] And he also plays his age in this show, which is kind of interesting.
[14:30] But the weird thing is both of them have this –
Elliott Kalan
[14:33] As opposed to Prometheus where he played a man who was 70 years older than him.
Stuart Wellington
[14:37] That's a beautiful swing.
[14:40] And some might say it's a miss.
[14:42] I would not.
[14:42] I think there was a swing and a hit.
[14:44] It was the best choice of that movie to make that the majority of screen time that Guy Pearce
[14:49] had in Prometheus, he was caked in old age makeup.
Elliott Kalan
[14:53] Caked in what appeared to be layers of Elmer's glue that had to dry one at a time.
[14:58] You were saying, so he's playing his age.
Stuart Wellington
[15:00] But the interesting thing is both he and Kate Winslet have the exact same birthday.
[15:06] Isn't that fun?
[15:07] Isn't that a fun fact?
Elliott Kalan
[15:08] You know that every day when they walked on set, they went, birthday pals.
[15:11] They point at each other and they go, hey, birthday twin.
[15:13] How are you doing?
[15:13] I'm good, birthday twin.
Dan McCoy
[15:14] I want to jump way back only for fear of being misunderstood and having angry Queen's Gambit
[15:24] heads coming at me.
[15:25] I don't –
[15:26] The Gambos they call themselves?
[15:27] Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[15:27] Now they call themselves Gambos, which is bad because Michael Gambon's fans also call
[15:31] themselves Gambos.
[15:32] So it's hard, you know?
Dan McCoy
[15:34] I just want to make clear that I actually really enjoy sort of the melodrama of it all.
[15:38] My problem was more that I felt like it took some silly shortcuts in the storytelling.
[15:46] But I like how it's a handsomely mounted melodrama, which is a thing we don't get enough of.
Stuart Wellington
[15:53] That's true.
[15:54] I think so, Dan's safe.
[15:55] He's on base.
[15:56] You cannot be mad at him.
[15:58] Yeah.
[15:58] Cancel him.
[15:59] Uncancel him.
[16:00] Yeah.
[16:00] So that's going to wrap up our Emmy segment.
[16:02] We have one more segment – well, not one more.
[16:04] We have a couple more.
[16:05] The next segment, of course, is called What Are We Watching?
[16:08] This is the segment where we talk about shows that we're watching.
[16:12] Lately, I'll go first.
[16:14] I mentioned What We Do in the Shadows.
[16:15] New season.
[16:16] It's great.
[16:16] I love that show.
[16:17] Can't get enough.
[16:17] Great season.
[16:18] Give me more vamp, vamp, vamps.
[16:20] I also – I've been talking to Elliot about this, but when I work out, I got to have something
[16:25] on in the background.
[16:25] I got to watch something when I work out.
[16:27] Lately, I've been watching those Peaky Bees, you know, the Peaky Blinders starring Killian
[16:32] Murphy, beautiful short king.
[16:34] I love that guy.
[16:35] I don't know if I buy him as like a scary mobster guy, but whatever.
[16:38] He's cool.
[16:39] And he's gorgeous.
[16:39] I love him.
Elliott Kalan
[16:39] He's the scarecrow, Stuart.
[16:41] How could you not?
[16:41] Come on.
[16:42] What's not scary about him?
[16:43] He's the scarecrow.
Stuart Wellington
[16:44] I have trouble buying him as like a war hero tough guy when he's like 5'7 and a gorgeous
[16:51] angel of a man with a beautiful voice.
[16:54] Like I feel like he'd be walking around the streets of Birmingham and people would be like,
[16:57] who is this?
[16:58] Who's this beautiful ghost?
[17:02] But I love those haircuts and I love that it's a lot of slow motion guys walking around
[17:06] in three-piece suits like, oh man, can't get enough of that shit.
[17:10] Have you ever – and they have this house band that's really great, Nick Cave and the Bad
[17:14] Seeds.
[17:15] He does the theme song.
[17:17] Dan, you know what I'm talking about.
[17:18] You're a Peaky Bee head, right?
Elliott Kalan
[17:21] Guess not.
[17:22] Yeah, Peaky Bees.
Stuart Wellington
[17:23] And then of course I've been watching –
Elliott Kalan
[17:25] The fans call themselves Peaky Beekeepers.
Stuart Wellington
[17:28] That would make sense.
[17:30] It's all about headgear.
[17:33] And the other thing I've been watching, of course, I'm almost done with Mike Flanagan's Midnight
[17:38] Mass, another Mike Flanagan horror series.
[17:43] Spoiler, there's vampires in it.
[17:45] I like it a lot but it's like a lot of Mike Flanagan stuff where it's like this would be
[17:51] great if it had about 50% monologues.
[17:55] I don't know if you – did you guys watch Hill House or Blythe Manor?
Elliott Kalan
[17:58] I started watching Hill House and I just didn't quite get into it.
[18:03] It just wasn't – it was a little too super serious for me, I think.
Stuart Wellington
[18:09] Yeah, I feel like every time there's action, it gets interrupted with like two characters
[18:14] telling some long monologue about some shit.
[18:17] And it's like I get it.
[18:18] I understand that it's just – it feels a little self-serious and it's like it – to
[18:24] me it hurts the pacing.
[18:26] But whatever.
[18:27] And also like I feel like it's padding.
Dan McCoy
[18:30] Paddington?
[18:31] It's Paddington.
[18:33] Midnight Mass is probably the main thing that I have watched lately and I don't know.
[18:40] I didn't have the same problem.
[18:42] I mean I – I will say that I see that it is there.
[18:46] I see that the show is almost entirely made up of people monologuing to one another.
[18:52] Yes.
[18:53] But it's not a thing that bothers me because I think that by and large they're interesting,
[19:01] well-written, well-performed monologues.
[19:04] And so I just sort of accept it as the style especially because it's about like religion.
[19:11] So it just feels like people trading sermons of different kinds.
Stuart Wellington
[19:15] Oh, yeah.
[19:15] And it – like the theme of like a personal faith and that sort of thing.
[19:20] I think that stuff is all cool.
[19:22] I just wish it moved it a little better clip in regards to that stuff.
[19:27] Like I love all the world building.
[19:28] I haven't seen it.
Elliott Kalan
[19:29] I haven't seen it.
[19:29] I know Dan loves monologues though.
[19:30] Usually with late night shows, he watches the first ten minutes and then just turns them off.
[19:34] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[19:34] Same thing with Marin.
[19:36] And the other thing with Midnight Mass, of course, I love that we got mega hunk Rahul Coley in it.
[19:46] And this time he's doing an American accent and he's doing a pretty good job.
[19:50] Okay.
[19:51] Elliot, what have you been watching lately?
Elliott Kalan
[19:53] I haven't been watching a lot – I mean the problem is I work in television but I like to watch movies kind of more than television.
[19:59] So if I have a chance, I'm going to watch a movie more often.
[20:03] But let's see.
[20:04] Like I mentioned earlier, we've been watching Pose.
[20:07] We just started the second season.
[20:08] That's a show I like the first season of a lot.
[20:10] It's a very Ryan Murphy show in that it is – everything about it is on the nose.
[20:14] There's nothing subtle about it whatsoever.
[20:16] And anytime you're like, oh, that's an interesting metaphor, a character just comes out and says it right afterwards.
[20:22] But I'm still –
[20:23] Have you watched any – have you seen any of Impeachment?
[20:25] No, I haven't yet.
[20:26] I'm curious about it but I haven't seen it yet.
Stuart Wellington
[20:28] It's every opportunity to put makeup effects on a character, they take it.
[20:32] And it's wild that they managed to make Clive Owen have less charisma than Bill Clinton.
[20:38] Which I mean Bill Clinton has a lot of charisma but Clive Owen with – under a giant nose and whatnot just can't keep up.
Elliott Kalan
[20:46] Yeah.
[20:47] And the – I'm trying to think what I started – I watched the first half of the first episode of Squid Game.
[20:54] Mm-hmm.
[20:55] But –
[20:56] Yeah, sweeping the nation.
[20:57] It's sweeping the nation and I will say that one of the – it has so far one of the things that I like about Korean movies.
[21:04] I've watched a lot of Korean movies and so one of the things I like about it is that the characters will just suddenly yell at each other.
[21:08] Yeah.
[21:09] And you don't expect it.
[21:10] Like characters in Korean movies are always on the verge of just hollering at each other out of nowhere.
[21:16] Yes.
Elliott Kalan
[21:16] But – and I really like that.
[21:18] And I mentioned this to some coworkers of mine who are of Korean descent and they were like, yeah, that's how it is.
[21:27] The – but yeah, I haven't seen too much.
[21:30] I feel like I'm stuck in this cycle where the writer's room that I'm working in right now, everyone seems to watch the hit show – the hot shows right away.
[21:39] And I haven't seen them yet.
[21:40] And then by the time I watch them, everybody's on to a different show, which seems to be the way television works now is you kind of like gobble it up really fast and then forget about it.
[21:50] Like until WandaVision, I think – until you mentioned it was nominated, I kind of forgot that I had seen that this year.
[21:56] You know.
Stuart Wellington
[21:57] I mean I feel like a lot of media, at least the way I feel a lot of folks consume – and myself included – consume media.
[22:05] With me, it's a lot of like with music.
[22:09] Every year I'm like, man, I haven't listened to that much music this year.
[22:13] And then I go through my band camp thing and I'm like, holy shit, I bought like 100 albums?
Elliott Kalan
[22:18] Yeah.
[22:18] We seem to be at a point in the cycle now where even if the media itself is not disposable content-wise, it is used disposably.
[22:27] Like we're kind of like speeding through stuff.
[22:29] But I wonder if that's probably a side effect of feeling like there's so much out there that we like don't have time to waste sitting on it.
[22:37] You know?
[22:38] I wonder.
Stuart Wellington
[22:39] Or just the feeling like, you know, I just have too many hours in the day.
[22:42] Too much time to exist on this planet.
[22:45] That unlike – some people are concerned that time is passing too quickly and we're getting old so quickly.
[22:51] I don't think that's the case.
[22:53] I think we all have plenty of time to just chill out and watch a bunch of shit.
[22:57] I think this is – nope.
[22:58] I mean I can't tell how sarcastic you're being.
[23:01] It feels semi-sarcastic, but it's definitely not true for me.
[23:03] You know, with that in mind –
Elliott Kalan
[23:04] I mean I didn't get to have lunch today because I was too busy.
[23:07] So that's where my TV watching is at, you know.
Stuart Wellington
[23:10] Ellie, you got to switch to doing like protein shakes, maybe a salad.
[23:15] You got to do something.
[23:16] You got to bulk up I think.
Elliott Kalan
[23:16] Well, the problem is that I have duck confit every day and I got to get it done right.
[23:20] So if I don't have the time to make it work –
[23:22] That takes forever.
[23:23] I'm just not going to do it, you know.
[23:24] But that's – because that's my lunch of choice.
[23:26] It's delicious, you know.
[23:27] Oh, no.
Stuart Wellington
[23:28] Yeah, I mean you like what you like.
[23:29] So interestingly enough, the Flophouse, including this episode, is sponsored in part by our sponsor who is explained about in a second by Dan.
[23:40] He's explained about – yeah, sure.
Dan McCoy
[23:43] That's one way we could have done it.
[23:45] Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[23:45] Thank you, our sponsor.
[23:48] Dan, why don't you lift the curtain and reveal who the sponsor is this week?
Dan McCoy
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[23:58] What?
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Elliott Kalan
[24:59] Perfect.
[24:59] You nailed it.
[25:00] Good job, Dan.
[25:02] Great Tia Stewart and great – you knocked it out of the park, Dan.
Dan McCoy
[25:05] And I did a great job telling you.
[25:07] You're both great.
[25:08] Yeah, you're – yeah, great cheerleading, Elliot.
S4
[25:10] I'm Lisa Hanawalt.
[25:12] And I'm Emily Heller.
[25:13] Nine years ago, we started a podcast to try and learn something new every episode.
Elliott Kalan
[25:17] Things have gone a little off the rails since then.
S4
[25:19] Tune in to hear about –
[25:21] Low-stakes neighborhood drama.
[25:22] Gardening.
[25:23] The sordid, nasty underbelly of the horse-girl lifestyle.
[25:27] Hot sauce.
[25:28] Addiction to TV and sweaty takes on celebrity culture.
[25:31] And the weirdest, grossest stuff you can find on wikipedia.org.
[25:35] We'll read all of it no matter how gross.
[25:38] There's something for everyone on our podcast, Baby Geniuses.
[25:41] Hosted by us, two horny adult idiots.
[25:43] Hang out with us as we try and fail to retain any knowledge at all.
[25:47] Every other week on Maximum Fun.
Elliott Kalan
[25:50] Baby geniuses tell us something we don't know.
S5
[25:52] A man goes to the doctor and says that he's depressed and that life seems cruel.
[25:58] The doctor says,
[25:59] Ah, the treatment is simple.
[26:00] The great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight.
[26:04] Go and see him and you will surely feel better.
[26:07] The man bursts into tears and says,
[26:10] But doctor, I am Pagliacci.
[26:14] Ah, okay, says the doctor.
[26:16] Yeah, so we got two more segments.
Stuart Wellington
[26:38] And we'll try and make these a little bit quick because I know you guys were really into the what are you watching segment.
[26:43] So today, tonight we're going to do a little segment I like to call Bingeable or Cringable.
Dan McCoy
[26:50] I love it.
[26:52] I was hoping it was going to rhyme.
Elliott Kalan
[26:53] So guys, it would be disappointing if the title was Bingeable or Not Bingeable.
[26:58] That would have been disappointing.
[27:02] Bingeable or Fungible.
[27:04] Almost rhymes.
Dan McCoy
[27:05] Or Spingeable.
[27:07] I'm sorry I couldn't come up with a word.
Stuart Wellington
[27:10] So, in this segment, I'm going to list the name of a popular television program.
[27:16] And you are going to have to tell me whether you consider it to be bingeable or cringable.
[27:25] First show.
[27:27] The Great British Baking Show or Bake Off, depending on where you watch it.
[27:33] Bingeable or cringable, guys?
Dan McCoy
[27:36] To me, this is highly bingeable.
[27:38] I love this show.
[27:40] I watched much of it when it first came to Netflix.
[27:43] But I've fallen off because it was very confusing in the early days which series were which.
[27:48] You were like, what are they doing?
Elliott Kalan
[27:49] I don't understand.
[27:50] Too much continuity.
Dan McCoy
[27:52] Netflix only bought seasons later on.
[27:55] So, then I wanted to see the earlier ones.
[27:57] But the early ones were like different format.
[28:00] Not as good.
[28:01] So, I understand why Netflix started where they are.
[28:03] And then now they've got new hosts.
[28:05] So, I fell off.
[28:05] But, good show.
[28:08] Bingeable.
Elliott Kalan
[28:09] Really?
[28:09] Yeah, certainly bingeable.
[28:10] It's like, you know, I feel the same way about it that I do about like HGTV shows where I'm like, put it on.
[28:16] Let it keep running.
[28:17] Do something else while it's up there.
[28:18] Check in every now and then.
[28:20] Oh, that's charming.
[28:20] Well, off we go.
[28:22] Ooh, that marzipan didn't work out.
[28:24] Okay, well, I'll check back in a few minutes.
[28:25] That cookie's got a break.
[28:26] Mm-hmm.
[28:26] Yeah, that's what Christopher Walken yells with his psychic powers.
[28:30] The cookie's gonna break.
[28:32] The cookie's gonna break.
Stuart Wellington
[28:34] The cookie is gonna break.
[28:38] Okay, so.
Elliott Kalan
[28:39] It's a Dead Zone reference for everyone at home.
[28:41] Dead Zone.
[28:41] Also, the Great British Baking Zone is what I guess you would call it.
Stuart Wellington
[28:45] Dead Zone, I think they made a TV show out of that too, right?
[28:48] They did.
[28:48] I think it was Anthony Michael Hall who was playing Christopher Walken.
[28:51] Oh, wow.
[28:52] Cool.
[28:52] Similar styles.
Elliott Kalan
[28:54] He played sports columnist D-Zone.
[28:59] The D-Zones are dead.
[29:01] Oh, okay.
Dan McCoy
[29:02] That guy just can't get away from weird science.
[29:06] You know what I mean?
[29:08] I mean, he can.
[29:09] He's done lots of other things.
[29:10] I do know what you mean.
[29:11] I mean, he just runs into other science that's weird.
[29:13] Weird science experiments, yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[29:15] Okay, so the next show, guys, next television program,
[29:17] this one's on Hot Out of the Ovens over at HBO Max.
[29:23] That's right.
[29:24] F-Boy Island.
[29:25] The F stands for fuck.
[29:27] Uh-huh.
[29:28] F-Boy Island.
[29:30] Bingeable or cringable?
[29:31] Dan McCoy, what do you think?
Dan McCoy
[29:33] I'm sure I could find it in my heart to binge it,
[29:38] but it's not typically my kind of reality show.
Elliott Kalan
[29:43] Oh, we got a cringe it from Dan.
[29:44] Cringeable.
[29:45] Elliot.
[29:46] I'm torn because I don't – yeah, it's not my kind of show,
[29:49] but like I'm friends of the friends of the host.
[29:52] So like, you know, it's –
[29:54] Yeah, that's true.
Stuart Wellington
[29:55] Sarah, Nikki.
[29:56] Yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[29:56] I mean, her old co-host, Sarah Schaefer,
[30:01] is a friend of mine and also neighbor of mine.
[30:04] But I mean, it's not like Sarah's hosting the show.
[30:06] So you know what?
[30:07] I'm going to say it's dirigible.
[30:09] It's floating above me.
[30:10] Wow.
Elliott Kalan
[30:10] Okay.
[30:10] I just can't reach it.
[30:11] Don't know how to get to it.
Stuart Wellington
[30:12] Okay.
[30:12] Next program, we got another one of these reality shows.
[30:15] That's right.
[30:16] Wipe Out.
[30:18] Wipe Out.
Dan McCoy
[30:20] What happens?
Elliott Kalan
[30:21] Is that the one where they knock people into pools?
[30:24] Yes.
Dan McCoy
[30:25] Okay.
[30:25] Like just solely pools or do they knock people into other things?
[30:28] Well, they knock them from a great height.
[30:30] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[30:31] Well, not that great a height.
[30:33] Height's not that great.
[30:34] Let's not give it too much credit.
Dan McCoy
[30:35] It's not like Alexander or anything.
[30:37] Like is it just not people getting knocked into pools or is there other stuff?
Elliott Kalan
[30:40] No, they got to like –
[30:41] Other stuff.
[30:41] They do a thing and if they don't do it, they fall in a pool or –
[30:44] I haven't seen it.
Dan McCoy
[30:44] I don't know.
[30:45] Do they get like knocked into like one of those grocery store arrangements of cans
[30:50] instead of a pool?
[30:51] Maybe.
Stuart Wellington
[30:53] Doesn't sound like you guys can come to a consensus as to whether or not it's bingeable
[30:56] or cringable.
[30:57] So we're just going to move on.
[30:59] Frasier.
Dan McCoy
[31:01] Frasier.
Stuart Wellington
[31:02] Dan, is Frasier bingeable or cringable?
[31:05] That's right.
[31:06] Being rediscovered by today's youth.
[31:08] The story of an old podcaster, his weird brother, and his cool dad.
Elliott Kalan
[31:14] I feel like every six years, a new generation discovers Frasier for some reason.
[31:19] There was – I don't remember – I don't think I've told this story before, but I was
[31:22] working on a – the last show I worked on before I moved to L.A. was this kid's show
[31:26] on Netflix called The Who Was Show.
[31:27] And the writer's assistant on that show was a man in his mid-20s.
[31:31] And he had just discovered Frasier.
[31:33] And he would watch it and then come in the next day wanting to talk about the episode
[31:36] he watched.
[31:36] And I'd be like, sorry, dude.
[31:38] I watched it 15 years ago.
[31:39] I don't remember.
Stuart Wellington
[31:41] There's like a Twitter account that just posts screenshots of Frasier staring outside
[31:46] of his apartment window and replacing the backdrop with scenes from video games.
[31:53] It's very entertaining.
Dan McCoy
[31:56] I mean, I remember liking it at the time very much.
[31:59] I mean, I'm sure like any old sitcom, there are parts of it that have not weathered the
[32:04] age as well.
[32:05] But I'm sure it's bingeable.
[32:07] I worry that too much Frasier talk on this podcast is going to infringe on the McElroy's
[32:13] copyright on discussing Frasier on a Maxxed podcast.
[32:16] Did they copyright that?
Stuart Wellington
[32:17] Is that a...
[32:18] Yeah.
[32:19] Okay.
[32:20] I guess we'll...
[32:21] Everybody just hit stop on this podcast and drag it and drop it in the garbage.
[32:25] Yeah.
[32:26] Just throw it in the Frasier can.
Elliott Kalan
[32:28] I'm going to say bingeable.
[32:30] Well-written show.
[32:30] David Hyde Pierce is amazing.
[32:32] I saw him in the Broadway show Curtains and he was delightful.
[32:34] So yeah, I'm going to go with that.
Stuart Wellington
[32:36] It's not a Flophouse episode unless Elliot dropped some bullshit on us.
Elliott Kalan
[32:39] The late John Mahoney I also saw in a show at the Paper Mill Playhouse in New Jersey.
[32:43] He was also great.
[32:43] And you know what?
[32:45] I saw Jane Leaves in a show of Monty Python material at the...
[32:49] Was it the Town Hall Theater in New York?
[32:50] So I've seen most of the cast of that show on stage.
[32:52] Wow.
[32:52] So yeah, they'll binge it.
Dan McCoy
[32:53] You got to catch them all though, Elliot.
Stuart Wellington
[32:55] Yeah, I know.
[32:55] I haven't seen Kelsey.
[32:56] I haven't seen the Kels.
[32:57] Yeah, you haven't gone to one of his upstate New York grocery store appearances where he
[33:03] sells his freedom beer or whatever the fuck he's doing right now?
[33:06] No, I haven't done that.
Stuart Wellington
[33:06] Yeah, I kind of wish I'd caught him earlier in his political career.
Elliott Kalan
[33:10] The book of Kels is not one that I really want to read right now.
[33:12] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[33:13] Okay.
[33:14] So one more we got...
[33:15] That's some bad grammar.
[33:16] Let me tell you.
Elliott Kalan
[33:17] Oh, fuck.
[33:18] But still, separate the art from the artist.
[33:20] Go ahead and watch Frasier.
[33:22] Sure.
Dan McCoy
[33:23] Sorry.
[33:23] I'm just reeling the book of Kels.
[33:26] That almost...
[33:28] You almost flew that one under the radar.
[33:30] But...
[33:30] I'm saying...
Elliott Kalan
[33:30] That was just for the Celtic fans in the audience.
[33:33] It's all right.
Stuart Wellington
[33:34] Last program.
[33:35] Last program.
[33:35] Bingeable or cringable?
[33:38] Columbo.
Dan McCoy
[33:40] Oh, very bingeable.
[33:42] We've been watching some of it, actually, in lockdown.
Elliott Kalan
[33:46] It's super bingeable, but I have to say, and this is going to sound like I'm biting the
[33:49] hand that feeds it, because people send me a lot of Columbo material on Twitter, and I'm
[33:53] very happy about it.
[33:54] But I feel like at this point, Columbo is reaching that level where it's so beloved
[34:01] that I start feeling a knee-jerk reaction to not like it anymore, which is all inside
[34:06] of me, which is bad, because it's a great show, and I love Peter Falk in it, obviously,
[34:09] and all the guest stars.
[34:10] It's a snapshot of Hollywood at the time.
[34:12] But I guess I'm looking for the show.
[34:15] I'm the kind of guy who's like, what's the Columbo-type show that only I know about, and
[34:19] nobody else is telling me about it?
[34:20] That's the kind of jerk I am.
[34:22] Kolchak the Night Stalker.
[34:23] No, I don't want to watch Kolchak.
[34:24] It's never as good as I want it to be.
[34:26] It's too scary.
[34:28] I can't sleep at night when I watch Kolchak.
Dan McCoy
[34:30] Oh, Darren McGavin, look out for that mummy.
[34:33] No, I'm just...
[34:34] That's Elliot.
Elliott Kalan
[34:34] I have my blanket over my head, because I don't want Darren McGavin to come into my room
[34:39] at night and scare me.
Stuart Wellington
[34:41] So that was Bingeable or Cringeable.
[34:43] Let's move on to the final segment of the night.
[34:45] That's right.
[34:45] We are doing Dinner and a Show, brought to you by Hulu.
[34:51] Is it?
[34:52] No, but it's not really brought to you by Hulu.
[34:54] Not technically, but I mean...
Elliott Kalan
[34:55] I mean, we have a sponsor, Squarespace.
[34:57] Please patronize them.
[34:58] They're paying us.
[34:59] Hulu is not paying us.
Stuart Wellington
[35:01] So what I'm going to do is I'm going to list the...
[35:03] Have you guys tried that new Hulu hoop?
Elliott Kalan
[35:05] It's a toy for kids that has one show you're really into, and then that show drops off the
[35:10] service, and you're about to cancel it, and then another show you like comes on.
Stuart Wellington
[35:14] Wow.
[35:14] Interesting.
[35:15] Okay.
[35:15] Take that Hulu.
[35:17] Take that Hulu.
[35:18] Hulu original program, and you're going to tell me when you're settling in for the night
[35:23] to watch this program, and what meal you would either order or make to go along with that
[35:31] show.
[35:32] Okay.
[35:33] Okay.
[35:34] Yeah.
[35:34] I know Elliot.
[35:36] Elliot is quite a gourmand, and Dan loves to make some bread and whatnot, so hopefully we'll
[35:42] get some exciting answers here.
[35:43] I've had Dan's whatnot.
[35:44] It's delicious.
[35:45] Yeah.
[35:46] Okay.
[35:47] Okay.
[35:47] So the first program is Deadbeat.
[35:52] You don't remember it?
[35:53] There were three seasons, 36 episodes.
[35:56] What?
Elliott Kalan
[35:57] Something with beats.
[35:58] Something with beats in it, like a beet salad, maybe?
Stuart Wellington
[36:01] It's an American supernatural comedy series.
Elliott Kalan
[36:05] Uh-huh.
[36:06] Oh, I remember that one.
[36:07] That's the one.
[36:07] Is that the one where they had the ads all over New York where there's kind of like a
[36:11] sad guy with a beard holding a balloon that looked like a ghost?
[36:14] Yes, I think that's correct.
[36:15] Okay, yeah.
[36:16] I never saw the show, but I remember the ads for it.
[36:18] Yeah, something with beats.
[36:19] Oh, okay.
[36:20] Something with beats, Dan.
[36:20] Because also the beet juice looks like blood, so it's harry.
[36:23] You got anything to add here, Dan?
Dan McCoy
[36:26] Just make sure those beets are dead before you eat them.
Elliott Kalan
[36:29] Oh, yeah.
[36:30] You don't want them grabbing onto the inside of your throat as they go down, trying to
[36:33] kill you before you can kill them.
[36:34] Sure.
Stuart Wellington
[36:35] That was an outtake from the movie Old Boy, where they went to a restaurant that serves
[36:40] live beets.
[36:42] So, the next one is Devs.
Elliott Kalan
[36:48] Oh, that's the show where I refused to watch it because I couldn't figure out what it was
[36:51] about ahead of time.
Dan McCoy
[36:52] It's about developers, I assume?
[36:55] Is that with Nick Offerman, right?
Stuart Wellington
[36:58] Created, written, and directed by Alex Garland.
[37:01] Hmm.
[37:02] Science fiction thriller.
[37:04] Right.
[37:04] Nick Offerman is in it.
[37:06] Yeah.
Dan McCoy
[37:07] Right, the Alex Garland thing.
Elliott Kalan
[37:09] That was back when I was going through a phase when I wanted to know a little bit about the
[37:12] show before I started watching them, and I couldn't find anything about what Devs was about.
[37:16] So, I would probably serve fried chicken.
[37:19] Yeah.
[37:19] It's the best.
Dan McCoy
[37:20] And I guess if it's an Alex Garland show, I would serve a single grape inside an ice cube.
[37:31] Oh.
[37:32] Because it would be sort of cold and austere and mysterious.
[37:36] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[37:37] Little high concept.
[37:38] I like this.
[37:40] Okay.
Elliott Kalan
[37:40] I'm still going to go with fried chicken.
[37:42] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[37:43] We're moving a little bit closer to more modern, so maybe you guys have a better chance of
[37:48] having seen these.
[37:48] Yeah.
[37:48] These old, old shows like Devs, which is what, three years old?
[37:52] Come on.
[37:52] Forget about it.
[37:53] Uh-huh.
[37:54] So, we are...
[37:57] How about the Hulu original Doll Face?
Dan McCoy
[38:01] Doll Face.
[38:02] Now, does this have anything to do with Doll Man versus Demonic Toys?
[38:06] It unfortunately does not.
[38:08] Just his face.
[38:08] I knew you were going to ask that.
[38:09] Just his face.
Elliott Kalan
[38:10] Just the face of Doll Man.
[38:11] Yeah.
[38:12] I haven't seen it.
[38:13] I'm going to go fried chicken, I think.
[38:15] Yeah.
[38:15] I think I'm going to say fried chicken for this one.
[38:17] Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[38:17] That's a surprise, but you know...
[38:19] I'm going to have some soup.
[38:21] Okay.
[38:22] What kind of soup, Dan?
[38:23] Just comforting.
[38:23] Just comforting.
[38:23] You're a maker of soups.
[38:25] What's a go-to soup for Dan McCoy?
Dan McCoy
[38:28] You know what's good?
[38:29] You get a Tuscan bean soup.
[38:30] You put some sausage in there, some white beans, some kale.
[38:34] Maybe throw a hunk of Parmesan in.
[38:36] What?
[38:37] Just throw it right in there.
[38:39] Check it in.
Elliott Kalan
[38:40] I imagine you're sitting down with Audrey for dinner and you go, hey, do you want a hunk
[38:44] in your soup?
[38:44] And you hold up the Parmesan, but then you dip your own hand in.
[38:47] Oh, fuck.
[38:48] Did you do that for real?
[38:51] Dan, did you do that?
Stuart Wellington
[38:52] And she says, please pour me a new bowl of soup.
[38:53] Did you do that for real?
[38:54] Your hand was in this one.
Dan McCoy
[38:54] There's nothing in the rule book that says I can't.
Stuart Wellington
[38:56] I can't believe you did that.
[38:57] For real?
[38:59] Okay.
[39:01] That's crazy.
[39:02] For real?
[39:03] Okay.
[39:03] So we got one last one.
[39:06] This is ripped from the headlines.
[39:08] One last one.
[39:09] Why the last man?
[39:12] Now, what headline is that ripped from?
[39:14] The headline of new show on Hulu.
Elliott Kalan
[39:17] The headline of why the last man adapted for television.
[39:20] Finally adapted.
[39:21] They finally made it.
Dan McCoy
[39:24] They did it.
[39:25] This version doesn't have, what, who are they going to have at one point?
[39:29] Deuce Bigelow.
[39:30] What's his name?
[39:31] Rob Schneider.
[39:32] Rob Schneider is supposed to.
[39:33] I don't believe that was ever the case.
[39:35] What?
[39:35] Some sort of comedy version of this at one point.
[39:38] Really?
[39:39] That would be a very different story.
[39:40] Let me look it up.
[39:41] Maybe he was going to play the monkey.
[39:43] I don't know.
Stuart Wellington
[39:44] Did you guys read the comic book?
[39:47] It's based on a comic book.
[39:48] I read the whole comic book.
Elliott Kalan
[39:50] I have not yet seen the show.
Stuart Wellington
[39:51] Okay.
[39:52] I only read the first trade and did not like it.
[39:57] I like that.
[39:57] You know what?
[39:58] Well, I'm a fucking curmudgeon when it comes to that shit.
[40:01] That's true.
[40:01] You are a curmudgeon.
Dan McCoy
[40:03] I think I'm confusing a few things.
[40:05] I think that there was a movie that had basically the same premise that was a comedy version that Rob Schneider was attached to.
[40:14] Are you thinking of Deuce Bigelow, Last Man on Earth?
[40:17] And then, I don't know.
[40:19] I know that there was some weird version of it that it's, you know.
[40:23] I mean, they've been working on it for years.
Elliott Kalan
[40:24] So, that makes sense.
[40:25] But it's finally here.
[40:26] And you know what?
[40:27] Nothing goes better with Dystopia than Big Plate of Fried Chicken.
[40:31] Let's go for it.
[40:32] Okay.
[40:32] Big Plate of Fried Chicken.
[40:33] Okay.
Stuart Wellington
[40:33] So, Elliot is doing fried chicken.
[40:36] Dan, what are you going to bring to this meal?
Dan McCoy
[40:39] We're going to have a Swanson Hungry Why the Last Man dinner.
Stuart Wellington
[40:44] Oh, okay.
[40:45] What's the feature there?
[40:46] Is it meatloaf?
[40:47] Is it a?
[40:48] Fried chicken.
[40:49] Fried chicken.
[40:50] Okay.
[40:52] Okay.
[40:52] Fried chicken across the board.
[40:53] Okay, guys.
Elliott Kalan
[40:54] It's what I would want if I was the last man.
[40:55] Sure.
[40:56] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[40:56] So, I'm glad that segment went.
[40:59] I feel like that was the strongest segment.
[41:00] I'm glad I saved it for the very end.
[41:03] I have two, Stu.
[41:03] This is.
[41:04] Yeah.
[41:05] This has been another rousing.
Elliott Kalan
[41:07] Stu, if any of the segments weren't strong, it was only contestant error.
[41:11] It was not at all a matter of the operator of the games or the show.
[41:14] Yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[41:15] Yeah.
[41:15] I mean, the careful mousetrap that I've created with this episode.
[41:21] So, yeah.
Elliott Kalan
[41:22] Who knew when you asked two professional television writers about what they thought about current
[41:27] shows, they would not know any of them pretty much?
Dan McCoy
[41:29] They'd be like, oh, is that TV?
[41:32] What is that?
[41:34] Is After Mash still on the air?
[41:37] Yeah, yeah.
Stuart Wellington
[41:38] And if you were to ask me, I'd be like, do cut scenes in video games count as shows?
[41:44] Why no Emmys for Mass Effect?
[41:46] What's going on?
[41:47] I mean, that's.
[41:48] I mean, if it's Andromeda, I get it.
[41:52] So, this has been Two Boy Talking Tube to Two Dudes tonight.
[41:57] That's right.
[41:58] Which is a part of the Flophouse podcast.
[42:02] The Flophouse is on the Maximum Fun Network.
[42:04] And I don't know.
[42:05] I think we're still part of the Maximum Fun Block Party, which is a great time, obviously,
[42:11] to pick up a new show.
[42:12] If you're a new listener, I'm sorry.
[42:13] I don't know why you're still listening.
[42:15] Maybe you are folding laundry and just forgot to hit stop.
[42:23] Forgot.
Dan McCoy
[42:24] There was something I was going to do relating to sound.
Elliott Kalan
[42:28] Let me check my to-do list.
[42:29] Laundry.
[42:30] I did that.
[42:31] Yeah.
[42:32] Post office.
[42:33] Yeah, somebody's folding laundry.
Dan McCoy
[42:34] Throw podcast away in anger.
[42:35] That's the thing.
[42:36] I forgot.
Stuart Wellington
[42:37] That's what I haven't done yet.
[42:38] Well, that's.
[42:38] And they're like, okay.
[42:39] Like, I don't like this show, but it's.
[42:42] They said it's a mini.
[42:43] It's going to be wrapping up soon.
[42:44] 40 minutes.
[42:46] It's probably no more than 10 minutes long at the most.
[42:49] At the most to earn the name mini.
[42:52] Yeah, so we're on the Maximum Fun Network.
[42:54] There's a ton of really great shows.
[42:56] If you like this for some reason, there's probably much better shows for you to listen to.
[43:00] Thank you to our producer, Alex.
Elliott Kalan
[43:02] At a certain point, I think we might be doing ourselves a disservice by underselling so much.
Stuart Wellington
[43:06] Oh, I mean, that's.
[43:08] It's this false humility that I like to adopt.
[43:10] You know, normally.
[43:11] Yeah, that's true.
[43:11] That's true.
[43:12] When the.
[43:13] I didn't know you were adopting.
[43:14] When the microphones.
[43:18] Chickal marks, everybody.
[43:21] Yeah, when the microphones are off, I am prone to fits of grandiose hubris where I.
[43:28] As soon as.
[43:29] Run around my apartment in this bathrobe.
[43:31] As soon as the recording is over.
Elliott Kalan
[43:33] Throwing money around.
[43:34] He still just goes, nailed it, nailed it, nailed it.
[43:37] Best ever.
[43:38] And he throws a big after party in a warehouse somewhere.
[43:40] Like, after every taping of SNL.
Stuart Wellington
[43:43] Yep, that's me.
[43:44] Oh, wow.
[43:46] Thank you to Alex Smith for making this episode sound great.
[43:50] Like all the episodes.
[43:52] I've been Stuart Wellington for the Flophouse.
Dan McCoy
[43:55] I've been Dan McCoy for the Flophouse.
Elliott Kalan
[43:57] I've been Ellie Kalin from the Flophouse.
[43:59] Bye.
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Stuart Wellington 18mElliott Kalan 14mDan McCoy 10m

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Stuart's most ostentatiously-named mini format makes a triumphant return, as he talks to us about the Emmys, and current TV in general.

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