Ep #367 - The Adam Project

Stuart Wellington

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss The Atom Project.

[0:03] Hey, hey, guys, it's me, Stuart from the future.

[0:07] I'm here to tell you, Stuart.

[0:08] Yeah, what's up, Stuart from the future?

[0:09] I'm here to tell you not to watch The Atom Project.

[0:14] Perfect.

[0:30] Hey, everyone, and welcome to The Flophouse.

Dan McCoy

[0:43] I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:45] Hey!

[0:47] I'm Stuart Wellington.

Elliott Kalan

[0:48] And I'm Elliot Kalin.

[0:50] And wait, wait, guys, do you hear that?

[0:53] Do you hear that out there?

[0:53] Those trumpets across the horizon.

[0:55] The sound of brass bells and kettle drums on the march.

[0:59] Brass bells?

[1:00] Why, could it be?

[1:01] Yes, it is.

[1:02] Max Fun Drive is about to begin.

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[1:47] We'll tell you more as we go on, but that's enough for this here song.

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[1:58] So yeah, anyway, the day after this episode drops, it's the MaxFun drive starts.

[2:04] Oh, the estate of Meredith Wilson.

[2:05] Yeah, well, Meredith Wilson, he's got his own problems right now.

[2:08] He's dead.

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[2:09] Yeah, that's true.

[2:10] So this episode drops the day before the start of the MaxFun pledge drive.

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[2:45] And until later in the episode, when I tell you more, I've been Elliot Kalin.

[2:50] Back to you, Dan.

[2:50] What do we do on this podcast?

[2:52] We tell people about that.

[2:53] Well, on this podcast, I have to crack something, actually.

[2:55] Last episode, we reverted back to talking about how we usually talk about bad movies.

Stuart Wellington

[3:00] He just interrupted himself.

Elliott Kalan

[3:02] Yeah, I know.

[3:03] It's amazing.

[3:03] But I wanted to get up front.

[3:04] We need to make it clear that this podcast is now officially about people giving their different

[3:08] takes on Topeka, whether it's a good place or a bad place.

[3:11] We voted on it.

[3:12] It passed.

Dan McCoy

[3:13] I mean, that's...

[3:14] It's in the bylaws, but I mean, it's kind of just, you know, it's for show.

[3:20] Mostly, we talk about movies.

[3:21] Yeah, this show.

Stuart Wellington

[3:22] And guys, I've been having a kind of hard time since the last episode.

[3:26] I've been going, I guess soul searching is probably the right term.

[3:29] I've been going on like long...

[3:31] I found it, yeah.

[3:32] I found it when I was standing at the edge of a pond in a artfully decorated lake in a

[3:38] subdivision.

[3:39] And I skipped a stone or two, and I really thought about things.

[3:42] And you know what?

[3:44] Topeka and tapioca are different things.

[3:47] Wow.

[3:47] You made it.

[3:48] I'm glad you finally came to that realization on your own.

[3:51] So this is a stage where I have to make amends.

[3:53] So to everybody I've hurt with my misunderstanding, just write in, write into Twitter at D-A-N-K-M-C-C-O-Y.

[4:02] Why?

Elliott Kalan

[4:04] Stuart, I'm proud of you.

[4:05] I'm proud of our listeners for supporting us so that you can make that kind of self-realization.

Stuart Wellington

[4:10] Yeah.

[4:10] I just don't want to blow up my menchies.

[4:13] Yeah.

[4:14] Your menchies.

Dan McCoy

[4:15] Yeah.

[4:15] You don't want to interrupt the flow of all your exercise videos.

Elliott Kalan

[4:19] Yeah, I'm curating a specific vibe of my team.

[4:23] Squats, mostly.

[4:25] A lot of squats.

[4:26] Once I tried to get into Stu's menchies, and I accidentally got into Stu's munchies, his

[4:29] collection of munchies movies.

Stuart Wellington

[4:31] And it took me a while to get out.

[4:32] It was very dangerous.

[4:33] How many are there?

[4:35] I think there's only the one.

[4:36] But I have a lot of copies.

[4:37] You have a lot.

[4:38] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[4:39] Big Harvey Korman fan.

[4:41] Okay.

Elliott Kalan

[4:41] So, Dan, so you said we talk about movies on this podcast.

Dan McCoy

[4:47] Yeah, yeah.

[4:48] We watch things that are critical or commercial flops or kind of on the borderline of such.

Stuart Wellington

[4:55] I believe we agreed we watch a movie and then talk about it, good or bad.

[4:59] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[4:59] We tried to simplify it.

[5:01] Dan slapped that initiative down.

Dan McCoy

[5:03] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[5:04] I'm simplifying it by saying, but if I say we watched a critical or commercial flop, that

[5:09] does not impart a judgment from us up top.

[5:13] It just is factual.

[5:15] And then later on, we will give our judgments.

[5:18] Final judgments, if you will.

Stuart Wellington

[5:19] And today, we watched a movie that I think most likely would have been a commercial flop

[5:24] had it been released in normal, you know, normal methods.

[5:27] There's no way of knowing.

[5:29] This was a Netflix.

[5:29] Hard to say.

[5:30] Hard to say.

Elliott Kalan

[5:30] A Netflix original film, which means that somebody produced it in Netflix.

[5:34] Could have swept the nation, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[5:35] People like that Ryan Reynolds.

[5:37] This is Netflix's new thing, which is every once in a while.

[5:41] Ryan Reynolds movies.

[5:43] Well, yeah, that's kind of their new thing.

[5:46] But every once in a while, they, you know, do their version of a blockbuster.

[5:50] They throw a lot of resources, some big names at like some kind of light special effects

[5:59] fair, something that you can throw on and be assured that you're not going to have to think

Elliott Kalan

[6:04] that much.

[6:05] Do you hear that?

[6:05] Do you hear that calliope in the distance?

[6:07] The light special effects fair is coming to town.

[6:12] Yeah.

[6:13] But so it's true.

[6:14] This was a movie that.

[6:14] It's the electric light orchestra.

[6:17] This is a movie that went into production or development at least 10 years ago.

[6:21] And originally Tom Cruise was going to star in this movie.

[6:23] And then he didn't.

[6:25] And finally, Netflix swooped in to save it.

[6:27] And boy, are we lucky he did because there's no other movie like this.

[6:31] Wait a minute.

[6:31] Hold on.

[6:32] There's a million other movies like this.

[6:34] Right down to the fact that it makes multiple references to other movies that are like this.

[6:38] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[6:40] They swept up the bits and pieces from manufacturing other films and they glued them together.

Elliott Kalan

[6:44] Yeah.

[6:45] That is what it feels like.

[6:46] They're like, this movie was made out of 80% post-consumer recycled content from a movie.

[6:53] So should we talk about what happens in the Atom Project?

[6:55] Because the name doesn't.

[6:56] Let's do it.

[6:57] Might as well.

[6:58] The name.

[6:58] The one thing I like about the name is it harkens back to 70 science fiction movies that

[7:02] always had like a project or an ultimatum or, you know, oversight and or something or a

[7:09] protocol.

[7:09] But then the title didn't really tell you much about the movie.

[7:11] Final.

Dan McCoy

[7:12] Can I ask you guys a question?

[7:14] Always.

[7:15] I'm an open book.

[7:17] So later on, Mark Ruffalo's project that he's working on, is that the Atom Project?

[7:24] No.

[7:24] And is it the –

[7:25] I don't think so.

[7:25] That's also named the Atom Project?

Elliott Kalan

[7:27] I think it's also named the Atom Project after his son.

[7:30] But why?

[7:30] Because his son is named Atom.

[7:32] Yeah.

[7:32] Yeah, but –

[7:33] Dan.

[7:33] Okay.

[7:34] Because in War Games, the computer was named Joshua after the programmer's son.

[7:37] Okay.

[7:37] Because that's what you do in these movies.

[7:38] He's named things after your son.

[7:40] Yeah.

[7:40] I think because they needed to justify the title.

[7:43] Or it's because –

[7:44] It's all about sons and dads.

[7:45] He feels bad about missing his son's youth to work on this project.

[7:49] So he's like, well, if I name it after my son and people say, what were you doing this

[7:52] weekend?

[7:53] I go, oh, I spent time with Adam.

[7:55] They think I'm talking about my son and not my time travel reactor.

Dan McCoy

[7:58] No, it's really for just his standing in the community.

[8:00] It's not really about his son.

[8:02] He just wants other people to think that he's –

Elliott Kalan

[8:03] I mean that's why you have children is to improve your standing in the community.

[8:06] I see.

[8:07] I see.

[8:07] So that you can put on Instagram how wonderful your family is.

[8:10] I've watched The Gilded Age.

[8:11] I know how shit works.

[8:14] So anyway, let's begin.

[8:15] So the movie begins with some ominous text.

[8:17] It says, time travel exists.

[8:18] You just don't know it yet.

[8:20] And it's like, yeah, because I haven't seen the movie.

[8:21] Dude, don't ding me for not having watched this movie yet.

[8:24] It just started.

[8:25] You dumb asshole.

[8:26] You stupid.

[8:27] You probably don't even wrote Ryan Reynolds' character's name to Adam yet, moron.

[8:31] Because we haven't introduced him yet.

Stuart Wellington

[8:32] You piece of shit.

Elliott Kalan

[8:34] I will say there are parts of this movie where I was like, wait, what's going on?

[8:38] And I think it's the movie's fault for not making the information clear.

[8:41] And then the movie will suddenly drop a huge amount of information very casually.

[8:45] The movie does not really care about its plot or the information.

[8:48] The movie is a quip and 70s hit machine.

[8:52] So anyway, the year is 2050.

[8:55] And Ryan Reynolds, he's a fighter pilot of the future.

[8:59] And he has been wounded.

[9:00] He has a bullet wound in his side.

[9:01] And he's stealing a sort of super jet.

[9:04] Did you say that we start this movie?

Stuart Wellington

[9:07] Yeah, does it start Media Res?

[9:09] It does start in Media Res very much so.

[9:11] Yeah, your favorite way of starting.

Elliott Kalan

[9:13] You finally did it.

[9:15] So Dan, it doesn't start in End Res where the movie's already over.

[9:19] And they're like, what happened today?

[9:21] Let's research.

[9:22] So Dan, why do you think they play Give Me Some Love in multiple times during action scenes?

[9:26] Because it's a fucking great song.

[9:29] But is the movie about love?

[9:32] Like why that song?

[9:33] I don't know.

Dan McCoy

[9:34] No, as Audrey pointed out during the viewing of this movie, it really wants to be Guardians of the Galaxy in certain ways.

[9:43] Doesn't it get to the point of casting Zoe Saldana in it?

[9:46] Yeah.

[9:48] But I'm not going to complain about that song.

[9:50] It's one of the things I enjoyed.

[9:52] It's a really good song.

[9:53] You were able to close your eyes.

[9:55] And just pretend you're at a concert.

[9:56] Pretend you're at a concert.

Elliott Kalan

[9:59] I think the thing that gets to me about it is that there's a certain type of movie where they're like, people love this song.

[10:05] It's a great song.

[10:06] It's full of high energy.

[10:07] We're just going to leech off this song.

[10:09] And one of the reasons I stopped watching Stranger Things early on was there's an episode.

[10:13] It might be the second episode where at the end, I was not feeling excited by this episode.

[10:16] And then the end, they start playing Hazy Shade of Winter, the Bangles version of it, which is a song I love.

[10:21] And I was getting excited listening to the song.

[10:23] And I was like, show, you didn't earn this.

[10:24] This is the song that gets this credit.

[10:26] Like, that's not fair.

[10:27] You're just piggybacking on this great song.

Dan McCoy

[10:29] Hey, man, take what you can get.

[10:30] Steal it.

[10:31] Steal the energy.

Elliott Kalan

[10:32] I don't like it.

[10:33] Anyway, that's true.

Stuart Wellington

[10:35] Something that steals energy would be a great villain in a Stranger Things episode.

Elliott Kalan

[10:40] Pablo Picasso once said, bad artists borrow.

[10:43] Great artists steal from the Bangles.

[10:46] So anyway, I mean, it's not even an original Bangles song.

[10:49] They're covering a Simon and Garfunkel song, but still.

Dan McCoy

[10:51] Yeah, but the way they play that riff.

Elliott Kalan

[10:53] It's amazing.

[10:54] So anyway, we're three seconds into the movie.

[10:57] So Ryan Reynolds is being yelled at by Catherine Keener over an intercom.

[10:59] Hey, come back.

[11:01] Don't escape.

[11:01] It's too late.

[11:02] But he does.

[11:03] He escapes the wormhole.

[11:04] Cut to middle school, 2022.

[11:06] And we meet young Adam.

[11:07] That's our time.

[11:08] That's our time.

[11:09] So Ryan Reynolds is playing Adam.

[11:11] And this is actor Walker Scoble as young Adam.

[11:15] And I'm going to call them young and old throughout the movie.

[11:17] Just so I'm not saying Adam says to Adam.

[11:19] And young Adam is, I just want to, I think this actor is not, I don't want to blame him at all.

[11:25] I'm blaming the right actor.

[11:25] Yeah, we're not going to be mad at a kid.

Dan McCoy

[11:27] No, no, the actor is just fine.

[11:29] He's doing exactly what the movie wants the actor to be doing.

Elliott Kalan

[11:33] Is he the least likable young character in a movie since the wheelchair kid from Texas Chainsaw Massacre?

[11:38] Probably.

[11:38] Is he the most annoying, most grating young person character?

[11:42] Again, not the actor, but the character in a movie.

[11:45] This character is a constant quip machine.

[11:47] And I was like, it was one of those things where I was like, is this what I was like as a kid?

[11:51] I think it was.

Dan McCoy

[11:52] I was terrible.

[11:53] No, but like the jokes that the kid makes are not kid jokes.

[11:56] They're Ryan Reynolds jokes.

[11:58] It's one of these things where it's like, okay, we, like how else will we know that this is the same character than by making him sound exactly like Ryan Reynolds in the same stream of quips.

Stuart Wellington

[12:09] They brought in Ryan Reynolds script guy to punch up the kid's dialogue.

[12:13] And the whole time I, especially after the scene with him and his mother, I could not stop thinking about that fucking kid in Wet Hot American Summer that like consoles the divorced Molly Shannon.

[12:24] It's like a little adult.

Elliott Kalan

[12:26] Like I couldn't stop thinking about it.

[12:28] He definitely, he feels like a, yeah, he feels like a, I guess that's what's bothersome about him is he feels like a grownup smart aleck in a kid body the way he's written.

[12:36] And it's this kid, his only, his only outlet of any kind is just these smart alecky quips that are written as grownup jokes.

[12:43] And he's just a jerk to everybody.

[12:45] And like part of the lesson is for him to stop being a jerk, but he like, I don't know, like there's no real moment of emotion from the, in this kid character, you know, for the first whole of the movie.

Stuart Wellington

[12:57] I kept, do like when he gets beat up by a kid whose last name is Dollar Hyde.

[13:01] Cause that makes me think of a murderer.

Elliott Kalan

[13:03] I mean, that was amazing that they had the characters named Dollar Hyde and it's like, all right, I guess he grows up to be Buffalo Bill.

[13:10] I guess he, this was, this was before he changed after ingesting the red dragon.

Dan McCoy

[13:15] You know, that's the thing.

[13:16] Like you don't realize is when Ryan Reynolds bullies the bully later on, that's the precipitating incident that turns him into a serial killer.

[13:23] I didn't realize this was part of the Hannibal verse.

Elliott Kalan

[13:25] Yeah.

[13:26] So we'll talk more about that.

[13:27] We'll talk more about this kid later, I guess, but I want to mention that, uh, there's a late, or maybe it'll come up later.

[13:33] Maybe it won't.

[13:33] Watching this movie made me think about how much I love ET and what makes ET good and what movies like this are missing that are heavily trying to draw on that feeling, but don't have the real emotion of it.

[13:43] Anyway, young Adam, he gets punched by some bullies and gets suspended.

[13:46] This feels accurate.

[13:48] I was constantly getting in trouble as a kid for getting beaten up by other, or getting made fun of.

[13:52] Like a teacher would walk in on people making fun of me and be like, Kalen, get out of here.

[13:56] And I'd be like, you're in trouble.

[13:58] I'd be like, I don't understand.

[13:59] What was I?

[14:00] I was the one that people were yelling gayslers at.

[14:04] I don't understand why I was the one who got in trouble.

Dan McCoy

[14:06] And that's Elliot's origin story.

[14:09] That's how Elliot got joker-fied.

Elliott Kalan

[14:12] Yep.

[14:13] Then that's, yeah, that's why I'm the, I'm the murderous madman of today.

[14:16] He gets suspended and we find out his mom, Jennifer Garner comes in to argue his case.

[14:20] He mentioned, she mentions that his dad died recently.

[14:22] The dad who we will later find out is Mark Ruffalo, who enters the movie so late into the film that at one point I was like, did they hire him just to appear in some photographs?

Stuart Wellington

[14:32] I mean, this is clearly another reference to the film 13 going on 30.

[14:36] I mean, yeah.

[14:37] Another time travel.

[14:39] Yep.

[14:39] Classic.

Elliott Kalan

[14:40] Yeah.

[14:41] And he's, but he's always getting suspended and he's depressed and he's full of quips.

[14:45] He's really irritating.

[14:46] His mom is going on a date and it's another one of those movie Boca-Henry relationships where the kid is kind of like taking care of the mom and he has to zip up his mom's dress before she goes on a date, which is nuts.

[14:57] Tells her to make good choices.

[14:58] It's nuts that she forgot to zip up her dress.

[15:00] But like, unless that's, unless that was the message she intended to send to the date was like, my dress is half off.

[15:06] This thing comes off.

[15:07] And he goes, mom, you forgot.

[15:08] And she's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[15:09] Right.

[15:09] Yeah.

[15:09] I forgot.

[15:10] Can you, can you take care of that?

Stuart Wellington

[15:12] And then as soon as she's out of the house, she changes into like her real dress because she doesn't want her, her child parent to get mad at her.

Dan McCoy

[15:21] Yeah.

[15:21] I just want to take a moment to say also, I'm, I am sad that these are apparently the only roles that Jennifer Garner gets now.

[15:28] Yeah.

[15:28] Is like loving mom and things.

[15:30] Cause as a.

Stuart Wellington

[15:31] You miss her being a karate spy.

[15:33] She was so good back in the karate spy days.

Dan McCoy

[15:36] Yeah.

[15:37] But anyway.

Elliott Kalan

[15:37] Did you like it more when she was, when she was a racist vigilante in peppermint?

Dan McCoy

[15:42] Not much like peppermint.

[15:43] No.

[15:45] Right.

[15:45] None of that, please.

[15:47] That was like the end of her time as an action star for a little while.

[15:49] I like, I like the tea, but not the movie.

Elliott Kalan

[15:55] When the credits came up, it said based on the popular tea, you said, I'll get finally a movie for me.

[16:00] Yeah.

[16:01] Yeah.

[16:01] And, and you know, you just know that like the sleepy time people were like, how did we sleep on this?

[16:06] Oh, right.

Dan McCoy

[16:09] And then they nodded off and were tucked into their beds by fluffy bears.

Elliott Kalan

[16:15] The dream.

[16:16] Everyone wants that.

[16:17] Yeah.

[16:17] Look, if I've learned one thing, it's that fluffy bears can sell me any tea they want and any toilet paper they want.

[16:22] And I will be buying it.

Stuart Wellington

[16:23] Fuck those fucking toilet bears.

[16:24] Get them out of here.

Dan McCoy

[16:25] They're so gross.

[16:26] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[16:27] They're constantly like staring at their shit covered fur.

[16:29] Fuck those guys.

Dan McCoy

[16:31] Yeah.

[16:31] Those toilet bears, their whole life revolves around shitting.

[16:36] I mean, Dan, the older you get, the more, the more that's going to be the case for you too.

Elliott Kalan

[16:40] Oh, no.

[16:41] Maybe it's just because I'm a parent.

[16:44] So a lot of my conversation does revolve around other people's pooping.

[16:47] Can you imagine how bad they smell?

[16:51] Yeah.

[16:52] So is that what the other people, that OPP song was about?

Stuart Wellington

[16:55] Just smearing shit around in their fur with the toilet paper.

Elliott Kalan

[16:57] Fuck that.

[16:58] You know, it's, I mean, they are a bad, they are a bad spokes animal in that.

[17:03] Yes.

[17:03] The shit gets caught in their fur and the toilet paper is not going to clean it out.

[17:07] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[17:07] They got to get a bidet for that or just, you know.

[17:10] A bare day.

[17:10] No.

Stuart Wellington

[17:11] Yeah.

[17:11] They're just eating nothing but like honey and salmon.

[17:13] Like, ugh.

[17:14] No thanks.

[17:15] Hey.

[17:15] Get them out of here.

[17:16] Now I'm gone.

[17:16] Anyway, so that's the Adam Project.

Elliott Kalan

[17:19] So the night that, while his mom is on a date, she says, no video games.

[17:24] And he's playing video games.

[17:25] Will these video games help him fight bad guys later?

[17:27] Of course they will.

[17:28] Of course they will.

[17:29] Yeah.

[17:29] In a modern movie, characters are not allowed to do anything that doesn't play directly into the plot.

Dan McCoy

[17:33] Well, also, I'm like, what the hell does she care?

[17:35] She's going off and leaving her son without a babysitter.

[17:38] Let him play the goddamn video games.

[17:40] Keep him out of trouble.

Stuart Wellington

[17:41] And we're also going to find out later on, I'm jumping ahead slightly, that his dad, Mark Ruffalo, built the video game he's playing.

[17:49] Yeah.

[17:50] Which is the weirdest thing where you're like, isn't he like a fucking super scientist who's making time travel?

[17:57] He's a physicist.

[17:57] That's some shitty ass video game.

[17:59] That's also a different type of thing.

[18:00] Yes, it's a different skill set.

[18:01] Like, he's not a computer programmer.

[18:03] And also, that kid would be like, no, I want a real video game.

[18:06] I don't want video game we have at home.

[18:08] You know, like.

Elliott Kalan

[18:09] Well, he's, I mean.

[18:10] Brand X.

[18:11] He's a scientist in the way that, like, all the Marvel heroes are scientists where they understand all of science.

[18:16] Exactly.

[18:16] Like, science is just one subject that you know all of.

[18:19] So anyway, there's a power outage.

[18:21] He goes out to investigate with a flashlight because that's what kids do in movies.

[18:24] They walk into the woods directly outside of their house with a flashlight.

Dan McCoy

[18:28] It's like the fucking forest moon of indoor right outside of this kid's house.

Elliott Kalan

[18:32] Yeah, I mean, it's a Pacific Northwest.

Stuart Wellington

[18:33] And you know that kid's just begging to find a Tommyknocker out there.

[18:36] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[18:37] That's what he wants.

[18:38] Yeah.

[18:39] And we learn.

Dan McCoy

[18:40] These woods are crammed with Tommyknockers.

Elliott Kalan

[18:41] It's nasty of them.

[18:42] You can't.

[18:43] You cannot swing a dead cat without hitting a Tommyknocker out in those Pacific Northwest.

[18:46] I do not recommend doing that, though.

[18:48] I mean, please.

Stuart Wellington

[18:49] Yeah, please.

[18:50] Don't.

Elliott Kalan

[18:50] In that kind of circumstance, you should bury that cat of honors for being a hero.

[18:54] But not in the Pet Cemetery.

[18:55] Not in Pet Cemetery.

[18:56] No, no.

[18:56] Not in Pet Cemetery.

Dan McCoy

[18:58] Throw it to your Cujo.

Elliott Kalan

[18:59] Keep him busy while you escape.

Dan McCoy

[19:00] No matter what Judd says, even though he knows the ground is sour, he still tells you about the goddamn Pet Cemetery.

Stuart Wellington

[19:08] Dan's taking a stand on this one.

[19:11] You can bury it in Salem's Lot if you need to, but watch after the vampires.

Elliott Kalan

[19:15] Take a long walk over to Salem's Lot.

[19:19] So anyway, have you guys ever been walking through the woods and you're like, oh, great.

[19:23] You see a bear wiping its butt on a Tommyknocker.

[19:26] That's the worst.

Stuart Wellington

[19:27] Yeah.

[19:27] I'm like, goddammit, these Charmin bears.

[19:30] They're just wiping their butts on everything.

[19:32] They haunt me.

Dan McCoy

[19:34] Anyway.

[19:35] Yeah, Stephen King, write a book about the Charmin bears.

[19:38] Yeah.

[19:38] Talk about scares.

Elliott Kalan

[19:42] Yeah, and there's going to be like 40 pages about how milk used to taste better back in the old days.

Stuart Wellington

[19:46] The thing is that cocaine makes you very prolific.

Elliott Kalan

[19:50] That's true.

[19:51] That's very true.

[19:52] Allegedly.

[19:53] Allegedly.

[19:53] He wouldn't know.

[19:54] He doesn't remember that time.

[19:55] Anyway, he wanders around.

[19:57] We find out he has an inhaler.

[19:59] This doesn't really play into much, which is fine.

[20:01] Actually, that's good for him to have a character thing that doesn't play into the plot later.

[20:04] He doesn't defeat a bad guy with an inhaler or something.

[20:06] And he finds Ryan Reynolds bleeding in his garage.

[20:09] And they quip at each other for a while.

[20:11] They argue a lot.

[20:11] They're at roughly the same level of maturity.

Stuart Wellington

[20:14] The amount of quipping, like it's one of those things where if you ever get two very specific nerds in the same proximity of each other.

[20:21] Yeah.

[20:21] And they start talking and then they start talking faster and faster and over each other.

[20:25] I'm like, we're about to implode.

[20:27] Yeah.

[20:28] We're about to reach some weird, horrible spot.

[20:31] Yeah.

[20:31] I was like, how did I walk into a room with two David Kalins?

[20:33] What am I doing in here?

[20:34] This is terrible.

Dan McCoy

[20:35] Anyway, so.

[20:36] It is weird though.

[20:36] I mean, like the movie, you know, does a lot of this to sort of indicate how much this character hates himself as a result of like, I don't know, just I guess sad things in his life.

[20:49] And the fact that it's not really that well.

[20:53] No.

[20:54] Justify why he hates himself.

Elliott Kalan

[20:55] They say it's a movie that is striving.

[20:58] I'll give it points.

[20:59] I mean, barely.

[21:00] It's striving to be emotional later on.

[21:02] Stop talking about bears.

[21:04] Instead of talking about bears, pooping on Tommyknockers.

[21:06] But it's striving to be emotional later on, but it doesn't lay the groundwork to earn that emotion.

[21:12] And it's like, it's one of those things where it's like, he's like, I'm mad that dad was never there later on.

[21:17] I'm mad that dad was never there for us.

[21:18] And his younger self was like, dad comes home and plays baseball with us all the time.

[21:21] Like, well, you're mad that dad died.

[21:24] And he's like, I guess so.

[21:25] And that's why I hate myself.

[21:26] But why do you, like it's his, and human emotions are a mysterious thing.

[21:30] You know, they don't always follow logical lines.

[21:32] But his emotions are so all over the place and not drawn precisely.

[21:37] Yes.

[21:37] And even the way he handles his younger self, like I don't like my younger self.

[21:42] And if I encountered my younger self, I would have a lot of difficulty, like not, I don't know, just being in the same room.

[21:49] But it wouldn't be, I wouldn't express it through like quips and like telling my younger self how annoying I am and things like that.

Dan McCoy

[21:54] Well, yeah, that's it.

[21:55] Like I, yeah, I would find it very sort of embarrassing to be around my younger self and difficult.

[22:02] And like I'd be frustrated, but.

[22:04] I immediately would turn off the podcast.

[22:06] The amount of.

[22:08] The way, yeah, as you say, it manifested in him just being mean to himself in a way that feels weird.

[22:14] It's like, dude, you know, this is you younger.

[22:18] You just showed up here on accident.

Elliott Kalan

[22:20] Yeah.

[22:20] You know, be nice.

[22:21] He also takes, he takes a long time before he explains.

[22:24] I mean, it's a long, into the scene.

[22:26] He takes a while before he's like, oh, I'm you from the future.

[22:29] And he keeps allowing his younger self to believe that he's just like a drifter with a bullet wound who just straggled in and has the same watch and everything.

[22:37] But anyway, he reveals that he's the same guy.

[22:39] It's old Adam who's come for young Adam.

[22:41] And old Adam is like, I meant to go back to the year 2018, but I ended up in the year 2022.

[22:46] And the reason he's going back to 2018 is kind of funny later on.

[22:51] But I'll, should I spoil it now or should I bring it up when it comes up later?

Dan McCoy

[22:54] I don't even think I remember.

Elliott Kalan

[22:57] He wants to go back and stop something that happened in 2018.

[23:01] And it doesn't occur to him to go to before 2018 to stop it.

[23:05] He has to be there exactly at the moment that it happens, which is dumb, which is foolish.

[23:11] Anyway, but we'll get to the specifics of that later.

[23:12] So we find out that the time jets are coded to a specific user's DNA.

[23:16] And since old Adam is wounded, the jet won't let him in, but it will let young Adam in.

Dan McCoy

[23:21] Which seems like a weird way for this jet to work.

[23:23] Can we agree on that?

Elliott Kalan

[23:24] You mean the idea that a time jet, a very expensive piece of hardware, would only be able to be used by one person ever, forever?

Dan McCoy

[23:31] Well, that, but also like if you're wounded, like maybe you need to get back to where you came from.

[23:38] Like I understand.

[23:39] I mean, maybe it's a safety thing to keep like a jet from crashing into the ground.

[23:43] I understand.

[23:44] But like, I don't know.

[23:46] This doesn't seem like a safeguard that they would handle in a different way.

Elliott Kalan

[23:50] What it seems like is an excuse for old Adam to bring young Adam along with him on his time hopping adventures.

[23:55] But you're right.

[23:56] It doesn't really mean.

[23:56] It's similar to in Judge Dredd, how they're like, this gun is coded to your DNA.

[24:02] Only someone with your DNA can shoot it.

[24:04] And that's how we learn that the bad guy is a clone of him.

[24:06] And it's like, it seems like a lot of technology to fit into a gun.

[24:10] Like, couldn't you just put a lock on it when you're not using it?

[24:14] But anyway.

[24:15] Yeah.

[24:16] But this movie has, it has that 90s understanding of DNA where DNA is just a magic thing that can make all sorts of things happen.

Stuart Wellington

[24:22] And also the other like time element is that they have to wait for the ship to repair itself because they're like, we don't actually want to worry about them having to repair the ship.

[24:32] We'll just say that the science is good enough.

[24:34] It'll just fix itself.

[24:35] It's fine.

Elliott Kalan

[24:35] It's self-repairing.

[24:36] It can detect DNA from a distance without actually having a sample to look at.

[24:41] It's an amazing time ship.

[24:42] So anyway, the time jets all busted.

[24:44] They got to wait till it fixes itself.

[24:45] Young Adam is like, old Adam, do you remember any of this?

[24:48] And old Adam is like, everyone has a fixed time they're supposed to belong in.

[24:51] And when I get back to my fixed time, my memories will change based around what happened.

[24:56] And they're like, good enough for me.

[24:57] That explains any loopholes.

Dan McCoy

[24:59] Old Adam goes.

[25:00] This is a very hand-wavy movie about time travel.

[25:03] Like, I feel like there are two types of time travel movies.

[25:05] There are ones that like make the time travel the fun part and be like, let's really dig into the paradoxes.

[25:10] And then there are ones that.

[25:11] Give me an example, Dan.

[25:13] Well, I'll tell you.

[25:14] Audrey said the same thing.

Elliott Kalan

[25:15] Well, I'll tell you.

[25:16] This movie is like Primer, I guess.

[25:18] Yeah, Primer.

[25:19] This movie is on a time travel continuum where Primer is on one end.

[25:22] It is all about time travel conundrums.

[25:24] And it does not care about special effects or action.

[25:26] And this movie is on the other end where it doesn't really give a shit about time travel.

[25:29] It's just about special effects and action.

Dan McCoy

[25:30] It's just an excuse to like have old and young Adam come like meet each other.

[25:35] And that's fine.

[25:37] Like that's probably the right choice for this movie.

[25:39] But that doesn't keep me from getting annoyed at like how hand wavy it is because without any sense of the rules, I'm like, I guess, whatever.

[25:48] You know, sure, fine.

Elliott Kalan

[25:49] To me, it's like I don't need to know the rules necessarily.

[25:51] But like I want the characters to feel like they care about anything they're doing.

[25:55] And instead the characters are just like, anyway, this bad guy is coming back.

[25:58] Bada bada bada bada.

[25:59] Quip, quip, quip, quip, quip, quip, quip, quip, quip, quip, quip, quip, quip.

[26:01] Oh, we need some more plot.

[26:02] Hold on.

[26:02] My dad's here.

[26:03] Quip, quip, quip, quip, quip, quip, quip, quip.

[26:05] And I'm like, movie, do you care what's happening in the movie?

[26:07] Because I don't.

[26:08] Yeah.

[26:08] If you don't care, I don't care.

[26:09] Does not seem to care.

Stuart Wellington

[26:10] Yeah, like we don't have to do this movie.

Elliott Kalan

[26:12] We can just fucking chill.

[26:13] I can turn you off.

[26:14] Yeah.

[26:14] We can just sit here quietly.

[26:17] Just do the chill part of Netflix and chill.

[26:18] We don't have to do the Netflix part.

[26:20] But when I'm watching a movie like Horse Feathers, it's like, yeah, I just want to see the Marx

[26:25] Brothers run around.

[26:25] I don't really care how this college works.

[26:27] But when I'm watching a time travel movie, like where I'm supposed to feel for the characters,

[26:30] then I want the characters to feel like they feel.

[26:33] Anyway, they're going to feel like they feel.

[26:34] Old Adam's about to have some feels.

[26:36] He's staying in the garage and he looks at this photo of a lady.

[26:39] It's kind of in a piece of glowy glass, which is funny to me because it's like,

[26:42] It's from the future.

[26:43] In the future, photograph technology is more cumbersome and less convenient than it is now.

Dan McCoy

[26:48] Oh, I thought that was just his phone.

Elliott Kalan

[26:50] I was like.

[26:51] No, it's a photo of his wife embedded in a piece of glass.

[26:56] No, it's not on his phone.

[26:57] That's so dumb.

[26:57] It's embedded in a piece of plastic and the colors are all wrong.

[27:00] Like the colors are all kind of tie-dye.

[27:02] It looks like something he got at the low special effects fair, you know?

[27:08] So, or whatever it was called earlier.

Stuart Wellington

[27:10] I would love a sci-fi movie where a guy in the future is like, well, like if where Ryan Reynolds from the future comes back and he like has his phone.

[27:18] He's like, I can't, I can't connect to any of the internet.

[27:22] I'm like detoxing from this internet addiction I have.

Elliott Kalan

[27:26] You're still using Wi-Fi?

[27:28] Oh, God.

[27:29] Adam's mom comes home from her date.

[27:31] Young Adam's kind of rude to her.

[27:32] And old Adam watches this in anguish.

[27:34] Oh, how could he be so mean to his mom?

[27:35] Next day, mom goes to work and young Adam talks about how impressed he is that old Adam is so built.

[27:41] When does he get these muscles?

[27:42] And when does he start getting laid?

Stuart Wellington

[27:44] That wasn't in the original script.

[27:46] Ryan Reynolds had that when he got attached.

Elliott Kalan

[27:48] And old Adam, he gives young Adam a tough talk about what a jerk he is to his mom and how he's going to really regret that later on.

[27:54] And they dress up old Adam in their dad's clothes and they go out for supplies.

[27:59] And this is one of those scenes where like young Adam pals around with old Adam and there's no reason for him to be there.

[28:03] Old Adam goes into a store.

[28:05] He goes, do you have any, young Adam, do you have any money?

[28:07] And then he goes into a store and young Adam just hangs around outside.

[28:09] And it's like, okay, I guess, I don't know why he came with you.

[28:13] I guess he's just there for bullies to beat him up because who's there?

[28:16] Uh-oh, it's the bullies.

[28:17] And old Adam is like, young Adam, they don't want to fight.

[28:20] So you're going to psych him out and then you're going to punch him in the nuts.

[28:23] And young Adam's like, okay, I'm going to do it.

[28:25] And then he gets beaten up.

[28:27] And old Adam is like, you had to be beaten up.

[28:29] It'll help you become a strong man in the future.

[28:31] And then old Adam goes to bullies and goes, I'm creating a time conundrum here.

[28:35] But if you ever beat up young Adam again, I'm going to beat you up.

[28:38] But it's like a long, it's a quippy way of doing it.

[28:41] He's like, now you're peeing yourself, aren't you?

[28:43] Wow, you're a real gusher.

[28:44] Anyway, so like it's not really scary or intimidating.

[28:47] He's just a bigger guy.

[28:48] Is that why they're called gushers?

[28:48] Also.

[28:49] Yeah, gushers fruit candies are full of pee.

[28:51] Yeah.

[28:51] They're full of urine.

[28:52] Well, the original ones were.

[28:54] And then during the testing, they were like, people love the outside.

[28:57] They don't love getting the hot splash of acidic pee when they bite into it.

[29:00] It's more of a niche audience.

[29:03] And they go, what if we put fruit juice inside?

[29:06] Well, we already made the commercial.

[29:07] Take a look.

[29:07] And in the commercial, kids' heads turn into gushers and then pee spurts out.

[29:11] And they go, well, we're going to have to make a new commercial.

[29:13] Like we can't sell people candy with pee.

[29:15] But the derupter Bob Guccione Jr.

[29:19] Yeah, Bob Guccione was sure that was the future of candy.

Dan McCoy

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Elliott Kalan

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[29:35] who at a certain point was convinced that cold fusion and golden showers were the future of America?

Dan McCoy

[29:41] Speaking, though, to get off pee for just a second.

[29:44] Yeah, why not?

[29:44] You can't.

[29:44] This is infuriating for a couple different reasons.

[29:48] Number one, as you say, first he's like, you had to be beaten up.

[29:52] And then he keeps the bully from ever beating him up again.

[29:56] So it's like, what?

[29:57] What were you just saying?

[29:58] You just contradicted yourself within the minute.

[30:01] But also, it's one of these time.

[30:03] Or maybe it was a paradox?

Stuart Wellington

[30:05] A time paradox?

[30:05] It's one of these time conundrums.

Dan McCoy

[30:08] Like what I'm talking about, like the fact that this movie doesn't seem to care about time except for when it decides to.

[30:14] Except for at this moment, he's like, you always had to be beaten up.

[30:18] We can't interfere with you getting beaten up.

Elliott Kalan

[30:21] Like, I don't think so.

[30:23] If we change a single beating, it could ruin the future.

[30:26] Yeah.

[30:27] Yeah, it's also one of those movies where people are like, we can't do anything to change the past.

[30:31] And then everything they do to change the past makes the future immeasurably better.

[30:35] Yeah.

[30:37] So young Adam, he shows, he finds the picture of that lady.

[30:41] And old Adam says, that was my wife, Laura.

[30:43] But I don't have her anymore.

[30:44] Old Adam goes to a bar because if you're trying not to change the past, you got to get drunk.

[30:49] And old Adam finds, and young Adam's mom shows up.

[30:53] And old Adam reassures her that her son will stop trying to be a jerk someday and will really care about her.

[30:59] And how he really misses their dad.

[31:01] And young Adam needs to know that mom hurts too.

[31:04] And it is really starting to edge into mom falls in love with her own son from the future territory.

[31:10] Is your name Calvin Klein?

Dan McCoy

[31:14] Feels like they're about to start making it.

Elliott Kalan

[31:17] But luckily Ryan Reynolds, I think sensing that that is going to happen, walks out of the bar.

[31:21] And she chases after him, but he's gone.

[31:23] But meanwhile, we've got real trouble right here in Rivertime City.

[31:28] A time jet lands.

[31:29] Who's in it?

[31:29] Catherine Keener.

[31:30] That's right.

[31:30] The evil queen of the future, Maya Saurian.

[31:33] A character whose name they just start using in the middle of the movie.

[31:36] And I was like, wait, who are they talking about again?

Dan McCoy

[31:38] Also, they talk about Saurian all this time.

[31:40] I'm like, oh, God.

[31:41] Like, the future, everyone has these, like, stupid.

[31:43] It's a cool name.

[31:44] Stupid, like, sci-fi names.

[31:46] But then, like, she's a character back in this time as well, obviously.

[31:51] And we meet her as, like, a relatively normal person.

[31:55] And I'm just like, but your name's still Saurian.

Stuart Wellington

[31:58] Yeah, I mean, I was lucky enough I was watching with the subtitles on.

[32:02] Otherwise, I would have heard the name Saurian.

[32:04] And I'm like, this is going to be this sick-ass dinosaur lady.

[32:07] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[32:07] She's, well, ethnically dinosaur, but culturally not.

[32:10] That's the thing.

[32:10] Sure, yeah.

[32:11] Yeah.

[32:11] But, yeah, it does – you do think it's going to be a dino person from the future, but it's not.

[32:16] Saurian and her henchman, Christos, have come in from the future with a bunch of armored stormtroopers.

[32:24] Uh-oh.

[32:25] And old Adam, he explains to young Adam about his wife, Laura.

[32:28] They were both pilots.

[32:29] She died on a time jump to 2018.

[32:32] And that's why he's trying to get to her there.

[32:33] And he thinks maybe Saurian had her killed because she knew too much about Saurian being an evil warlord of the future.

[32:39] And old Adam tells young Adam that their dad invented time travel.

[32:43] It's the Adam project.

[32:44] And that moment when he goes, our dad invented time travel?

[32:47] It was like, you didn't even lay the groundwork that your dad was a scientist yet.

[32:51] Like, the movie is so – it feels like the movie is just making it up as it goes along.

[32:55] And, like, everything is so incredibly convenient where it's like, by the end of it, you're like, wait a minute.

[33:00] So, the two time travelers are married.

[33:02] Their dad invented time travel.

[33:03] Their dad's –

[33:04] Well, the time traveler's wife.

[33:05] Their dad's business partner is the evil villain of the future.

Stuart Wellington

[33:09] Like, it's getting to a –

[33:10] And he didn't become a time traveler directly.

[33:14] No.

[33:15] He, like, flunked out of college and then became a pilot.

[33:19] Went to the Air Force.

[33:20] Yeah.

[33:21] And then they're like, you know what?

[33:22] There's – why not?

[33:23] We'll make it time traveling.

Dan McCoy

[33:25] There's opportunities in time traveling.

[33:25] If I look up my old pal, Thorian.

[33:28] Yeah.

[33:28] It's nepotism.

[33:30] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[33:30] I mean, it's a rise of Skywalker level of there's only one important family in the universe type thing.

[33:36] Yeah.

[33:36] But anyway, I mean, to be honest, nepotism is the only way Ryan Reynolds is getting into that pilot program because he's one of these – every movie has this pilot.

[33:43] Have you seen him?

[33:44] I mean, he's super handsome.

[33:45] Yeah, he looks incredible.

[33:46] But every movie has this pilot where it's like, you know what?

[33:49] He doesn't follow any rules.

[33:51] He's not book smart, but he's a damn good pilot.

[33:54] And when you look at pilots, they all have college degrees.

[33:57] They're all very disciplined.

[33:58] Like, that's how you're a pilot.

Dan McCoy

[34:00] Ryan Reynolds is supposed to be smart, although the movie, like, forgets it at a lot of points.

[34:05] Like, I think that he's also supposed to be, you know, Mr. Science.

Stuart Wellington

[34:10] Although they imply that his lifetime of drinking beer has made him less intelligent.

[34:16] Yeah, yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[34:16] His debauchery has given him non-sciencey thinking disease.

Stuart Wellington

[34:21] But if you've ever –

[34:22] Do you think they had him grow a beard so that people didn't confuse him with his younger self?

[34:29] Maybe.

[34:29] Yeah, possibly, yeah.

[34:31] He's got those boys' good looks, you know?

[34:31] Yeah, because he looks so boys'.

[34:33] Sure.

Elliott Kalan

[34:33] And I think at the end, I think they de-age him a little bit for a scene at the end, although I'm not sure.

[34:39] But anyway, I was reading the information about this.

[34:41] Later, we'll see young Catherine Keener.

[34:43] And I was reading a thing where on IMDb, they go, instead of using de-aging technology,

[34:47] they used deepfake technology to create the young Catherine Keener.

[34:50] And I was like, I don't know that we should be pouring money and resources into developing that technology.

[34:57] I think Maya Sorian's going to find a way to use it to take over the world.

[35:00] But anyway, so anyway, they don't have time to –

Stuart Wellington

[35:06] So now Netflix can just put Catherine Keener in every fucking movie now, right?

[35:09] Yep, yep.

[35:09] Under normal circumstances, I wouldn't complain about that.

[35:12] I wouldn't mind that.

[35:13] Catherine Keener's great.

Elliott Kalan

[35:14] I mean, she was in Nailed slash Accidental Love, and she was still pretty good in that.

[35:19] True.

[35:19] That's a terrible movie.

[35:20] So I remember – I think the first time I ever saw her in a movie was being John Malkovich.

[35:25] And I just remember being like, I think this is the coolest actress I've ever seen.

[35:28] Like, she's just so amazing in that movie.

[35:30] And so these armored troops attack.

[35:33] They don't have time to – we don't have time to digest the knowledge that their dad was a time-traveling inventing scientist because the armored troops attack.

[35:39] Old Adam fights them a while.

[35:41] He's a master of hand-to-hand combat, as all pilots are.

[35:44] He can use lots of future weapons.

Dan McCoy

[35:46] Yes, Dan?

[35:46] Take a moment to talk about his fighting because I feel like among the many things wrong with this movie, this, I think, is a big flaw, a big problem.

[35:57] Like, because he fights as if – he may as well be like Black Widow.

[36:01] Like, he is superhero level fighting.

[36:05] And for the movie, they're trying to make this kind of, you know, sci-fi throwback comedy heartfelt family reuniting thing.

[36:15] Like, it would be so much better if – like, yeah, he can be good at fighting.

[36:19] He should not be, like, super level fighting.

[36:22] He should use his smarts to outwit these guys rather than, like, you know, kung fu or whatever.

[36:28] Exactly.

Stuart Wellington

[36:29] He should be like me at the beginning of playing Jedi Knight Fallen Order rather than me at the end of playing Jedi Knight Fallen Order.

[36:35] I assume that's true.

Elliott Kalan

[36:37] There's an old adage that I think of superhero comics that's mostly been forgotten in a lot of ways, which is that the villain should be more powerful than the hero.

[36:46] It means a lot more when the hero defeats a villain who is more powerful than the more better than the hero.

[36:50] What about a racer, dude?

Stuart Wellington

[36:52] What?

[36:52] Where Arnold Schwarzenegger fights old James Caan.

Elliott Kalan

[36:55] That's what I'm saying.

[36:57] And a crocodile.

[36:58] Well, he fights a – a giant crocodile is tougher than Arnold Schwarzenegger except that he says, your luggage, and he shoots him right in the mouth and kills him.

[37:05] It's his only weak spot.

[37:06] This is what – but I feel like in a lot of action –

[37:08] It's his mien-lion.

[37:08] In a lot of action-adventure movies now, the heroes are so good at everything that it's never really in doubt that they're going to win.

[37:15] Yeah.

[37:16] And you start feeling bad for these nameless stormtroopers who are getting killed left and right by a hero who –

[37:21] Yeah, disintegrated.

[37:22] With a bullet wound, is fighting still, like, an amazing guy.

[37:24] And it reminds me of, like – one of the great things about Indiana Jones is that –

[37:27] Indiana Jones knows just enough to get himself into trouble that he can barely get himself out of.

[37:33] Yeah.

[37:33] Like, he is just a good enough fighter to be facing – he has – it's the Peter principle where he has reached the level of his incompetence.

[37:40] Like, he's good enough to get to the place where he is in real trouble.

[37:44] And I feel like in movies now, most of the time, the hero never reaches that point where they – I feel like they're in genuine danger, you know, where they have to push themselves harder to do something.

[37:52] It's just so easy, and everyone's so slick at it, you know.

Stuart Wellington

[37:56] And so let's talk about some more things.

[37:58] So he's got this crazy lightsaber thing that allows him to do some kind of AOE slam attack that just does no damage to his companions, only to enemies.

[38:07] I mean, that's a pretty good ability.

Elliott Kalan

[38:08] Somehow the weapon knows who is your friend and who is not, and it blows your enemies back.

[38:13] It's a pretty good ability.

[38:13] I mean, I've got him whose probably bones would be liquefied by the shockwave of this thing because he's not wearing armor.

[38:18] He's fine.

[38:19] Nothing happens to him.

Dan McCoy

[38:20] I assume it was the armor that it targeted somehow, but it is dumb.

[38:23] Sure, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[38:24] And specifically, his bones would be liquefied, not turned into dust where all the future people are turned into dust because if you're killed in a timeline that is not your specific timeline, you poof into a cloud of dust like you're one of the many vamps that is killed by Blade.

[38:38] But it makes me wonder, like –

Elliott Kalan

[38:40] I love that you know about Infinity War, and yet you are not going there for disappearing into dust.

[38:45] You're sticking with Blade.

[38:47] Do you think –

[38:47] He's seen Infinity War, folks.

Stuart Wellington

[38:50] He knows there's a more recent turning into dust reference.

[38:53] Do you think if Ryan Reynolds, like, bled out from that stomach wound, all of a sudden he would just pop turned into dust?

[38:59] I think so.

Elliott Kalan

[39:00] I think he would turn into dust like Michael Jackson in the Remember the Time video.

[39:03] I'm going to an older reference than Stuart's.

[39:06] Dan, find an older reference than that of someone turning into dust.

Stuart Wellington

[39:08] I mean, the only one I have is Buffy.

[39:10] That's also vampires.

[39:11] Does he turn into dust after he sings a song about how he used to bang the king's wife?

[39:16] Yes.

[39:17] Or is that before?

Elliott Kalan

[39:17] I think he comes from dust.

[39:19] We come from dust, and to dust we shall return.

[39:21] Yeah, exactly.

[39:21] So he comes from dust.

[39:22] He sings a song about how I used to bang your wife, and then he disappears.

Stuart Wellington

[39:26] Oh, man, they dips.

[39:27] Whatever, man.

[39:28] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[39:29] Yeah, he's – anyway, so they're fighting, fighting, fighting.

[39:32] They fight, they fight, they fight and fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight.

[39:36] The Atom Project.

[39:37] And who's going to show up to save them when Christos starts beating on old Atom?

[39:43] Laura's back.

[39:44] How she knows that at that exact moment they need help, why she didn't show up before then,

[39:48] doesn't matter.

[39:49] We don't know.

[39:50] It's for maximum needle drop because that's when the song starts playing, and it's what,

[39:53] a Led Zeppelin song that starts playing there?

[39:55] Yep.

[39:57] And so they run off to get – she's shooting guns because, of course, she's also a super

[40:00] badass fighter.

[40:01] They run off together.

[40:03] There's a time jet car chase, blah, blah, blah, explosions, soldiers on hover pads and stuff

[40:08] like that.

Dan McCoy

[40:08] It's a real indoor speeder chase scene.

Elliott Kalan

[40:12] And you said – you mean indoor like the – indoor the planet.

[40:14] The forest moon.

[40:15] Not indoor.

[40:16] Like it's an indoor speeder chase because they're outdoors the entire time.

Dan McCoy

[40:19] It is clearly meant to evoke the speeders in Return of the Jedi, I think.

Elliott Kalan

[40:26] Maybe it's because we just saw Masters of the Universe, but I think it might be meant

[40:30] to evoke the armored stormtroopers on floating pods in Masters of the Universe.

[40:34] That's true.

[40:34] I think you're right, actually.

[40:36] And IMDB gives the credit.

[40:37] They say it's meant to evoke the Back to the Future Part 2 hoverboards.

[40:41] So they're stealing from a rich stew of references from the 1980s.

[40:47] So they go to Laura's shack where – not a love shack.

[40:50] She's there by herself where she's hidden a lot of guns.

[40:52] Well, it becomes a love shack briefly.

Stuart Wellington

[40:54] I do love that she's been on this earth for four years at this point.

[41:00] In this time, yeah.

[41:01] In this timeline.

[41:02] And she has managed to – like her hideout is this like super amazing view Airbnb Instagram

[41:07] shack.

[41:08] Like the perfect place.

Elliott Kalan

[41:10] It's like, man, let me move there.

[41:13] Well, you know she bought it when – she bought it.

[41:15] She appeared here in 2018.

[41:16] Four years ago.

[41:17] Oh, yeah.

[41:17] Four years ago.

[41:18] She goes, I know there's a housing recession coming.

[41:21] I know COVID is going to hit.

[41:22] I'm going to buy up real estate while it's good.

[41:25] And she gets – and I know values are going to skyrocket.

[41:27] So that's her retirement package, I guess.

[41:29] But yeah, it's a beautiful house.

[41:31] And she says, look, I know that Sorian went back in time to this year – to 2018, rather – to

[41:38] give control of the time machine technology to her younger self.

[41:41] And she gave her lots of knowledge about companies to invest in to become a billionaire so that

[41:46] she could fund time travel technology.

[41:48] A sports almanac, right?

[41:50] Yes.

[41:50] It's all sports almanac stuff.

[41:52] They could give it to Mark Ruffalo – or they could take it from Mark Ruffalo and win the future.

[41:56] And Laura's like, I went back to investigate.

[41:58] I did survive an assassination attempt, but it trapped me in the past.

[42:01] And they do it while young Adam strolls around the beach.

Dan McCoy

[42:05] And then –

[42:06] I thought it was wild.

[42:07] I mean, I understand, like, he thought she was dead.

[42:10] He's reunited with his wife.

[42:12] Like, they're going to want to do it, which is what they do.

[42:16] But I also – but I still thought it was wild that they just let young Adam wander around

[42:21] where he could easily be killed by the bad guys.

[42:25] Or by her own security devices, which, as we learn, are all around the house.

Stuart Wellington

[42:30] The thing is that in 2050, Dan, parents let their kids just go outside and play.

[42:34] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[42:34] So they just have different values.

[42:36] Well, you know Japan is the wave of the future.

[42:38] And Netflix also has that show from Japan where toddlers go out to run errands.

[42:41] So in 2050, America is there too where kids are just allowed to wander freely, you know?

[42:47] I haven't watched that.

[42:48] Free range.

[42:49] Every time I open up Netflix, it starts pre-playing that two-year-old girl going on an errand

[42:53] and a guy going like, what are you doing today?

[42:55] And the narrator is uproariously laughing at the idea of a person talking to a two-year-old.

[43:00] It makes no sense to me.

[43:01] I don't – it's a – I don't understand the joke.

[43:03] But anyway, maybe I got to watch the show, I guess.

[43:06] They do it – they do the thing I hate in movies where they're making out furiously

[43:09] and they stop to say hi to each other.

[43:11] Fuck that.

[43:11] Nobody does that.

[43:12] That's stupid.

[43:13] Anyway, have you guys ever stopped sex in the middle to say – to look into the eyes

[43:18] of your partner and then say hi?

Stuart Wellington

[43:19] I do all kinds of shit, homie.

Elliott Kalan

[43:21] Stu, I know you're a freak.

[43:22] You don't want to know.

[43:23] Yeah, you're on the edge.

[43:24] I used to – Dan, have you ever done –

Dan McCoy

[43:27] You have to get Pinhead in here to explain what Stu's into.

Elliott Kalan

[43:29] I'm not a big fan of the romantic sexual high in the middle of lovemaking.

Stuart Wellington

[43:34] Yeah, I wouldn't say that in the middle.

[43:36] It is a process in order to create a child.

Elliott Kalan

[43:40] Yeah, yeah.

[43:40] And that's – and I should already know this person.

[43:43] But no, I think it's – I've just – I've never found myself – it just seems cloying

[43:47] to me in the movies.

[43:49] Maybe it's what it's missing from my love play.

[43:50] I'll try it tonight.

[43:51] I'll try stopping in the middle.

[43:53] Don't say love play.

[43:53] Text me a breakdown.

[43:54] I'll try stopping in the middle and I'll say hi.

Dan McCoy

[43:56] Never say love play again.

Elliott Kalan

[43:58] Okay, well, I'll stop in the middle of my –

Dan McCoy

[44:00] It's like that James Bond movie, never say love play again.

Elliott Kalan

[44:04] I'll stop in the middle of my sex venturing to say hi.

[44:09] Anyway.

Dan McCoy

[44:09] I imagine you with a walking stick and a backpack, a rucksack.

Stuart Wellington

[44:15] Yeah, rucksack filled with Popeye's chicken.

Elliott Kalan

[44:17] I put the lust in Wanderlust.

[44:19] Yeah, Dan.

[44:19] And for the additional protein to help keep them charged.

[44:22] Well, I mean the thing is – this is what Sting doesn't tell you about is tantric lovemaking

[44:25] is that you need to eat part of the way through.

[44:28] You're doing it for hours.

[44:29] You're going to get hungry.

[44:30] And that's why I always keep a box of chicken next to me.

[44:33] Yeah, and we're – or like at the very least trail mix.

[44:36] At the very least shove some trail mix in your mouth mid-thrust.

[44:38] Anyway, so this is the Max Farm Pledge Drive I should mention.

[44:41] So Laura tells old Adam to go back.

[44:45] You've got to go back and stop this time travel from being invented.

[44:48] And old Adam's like, but that means we'll never meet at the time travel academy.

[44:51] And Laura goes, it's got to be done.

[44:53] We just had amazing, mind-blowing.

[44:55] We said hi to each other in the middle sex.

[44:57] But that has to be sacrificed for the future of the future.

[45:01] And guys, on that cliffhanger, are they going to go back into the past to stop Zorian?

[45:06] Let's talk about the Max Fun Drive again.

[45:08] Now, as we mentioned earlier, what is the Max Fun Drive you're probably asking?

[45:11] Well, that's the time of year when we, the hosts of your favorite Maximum Fun shows

[45:16] and also the other Maximum Fun shows that are not your favorites,

[45:18] we take a moment to say, hey, thank you for supporting us.

[45:22] We couldn't do this without you.

[45:23] And we need your help to continue.

[45:26] This is the one time of year where we, as a member-supported network,

[45:30] take time out of our shows to say, hey, we're glad you're members.

[45:34] Here's how you can be a member if you're not a member.

[45:36] And you know what?

[45:37] I'm just going to put it all out there on the table.

[45:39] This podcast started as a hobby, but each of us hosts has had,

[45:43] at different times the past couple years, a time when this was our main source of income.

[45:47] This is no longer just like a thing we do for laughs.

[45:50] And if we get a few dollars from it, we're like, that's amazing.

[45:52] This is great.

[45:53] This is something that's become a real part of our lives

[45:55] in a very real sense, but in a good way too, not just in a we need money way,

[46:00] which is why we're extra thankful.

[46:02] We extra need the money, but we're extra thankful for all of you

[46:05] who have been pledging in the past, and we're extra hopeful

[46:08] that more of you will join or upgrade and pledge now.

[46:11] Dan, what were you going to say?

Dan McCoy

[46:12] No, I just want to say like, yeah, the gratefulness,

[46:15] but also like I do need, I really need the money.

[46:19] Dan, why are you gripping my arms so hard?

[46:21] Dan, you're drawing blood.

[46:22] You're leaving a mark.

[46:23] I've done a little freelance work here and there,

[46:26] but this is currently my income.

[46:30] So please, if you like me in any way, maybe support the show.

Elliott Kalan

[46:35] Dan said to me years ago, I said, Dan, what's your ideal job?

[46:37] And he goes, I guess if I could do the flop house as a full-time job.

[46:40] And maybe you were holding a monkey's paw because you got that wish,

[46:43] but not in the way you intended.

[46:45] So we're going to ask you.

[46:47] Continue your pitch.

[46:48] Thank you.

[46:48] We're going to just say, will you please join us as a member?

[46:50] If you're already a member, will you please consider upgrading?

[46:53] And you can join, upgrade, you can boost your membership,

[46:55] or you can buy a gift membership.

[46:58] A gift membership.

[46:58] I said gift membership, but I meant gift membership.

[47:01] A gelfling membership.

[47:03] A gelfling membership.

[47:04] You can buy a gift membership for a friend

[47:05] or even an anonymous MaxFunster

[47:07] who can't afford a membership themselves.

[47:09] They don't have to be a gelfling, but they can be.

[47:11] Just go to MaximumFun.org slash join.

[47:13] Again, that's MaximumFun.org slash join.

[47:16] Memberships start at only $5 a month,

[47:18] and right at that $5 a month,

[47:20] you get access to all of our bonus content.

[47:22] We've got a lot of bonus content over the years.

[47:23] This year, we've got a very special one.

[47:26] Listeners may know that we were running some brackets online

[47:29] so that you, the listeners, could vote on what movie

[47:32] we would do a full-length audio commentary for.

[47:34] Well, we did it.

[47:35] We just actually recorded it a couple days before this recording.

[47:38] It was so much fun.

[47:39] We recorded a commentary from the movie Cats.

[47:41] We brought in our good friends,

[47:42] Natalie Walker and Jenny Jaffe,

[47:43] who joined us for that episode.

[47:44] They joined us again for it,

[47:46] and it was so much fun to re-share Cats with them,

[47:49] and we know you're going to enjoy listening to us

[47:50] giddy over so many moments in that movie.

Dan McCoy

[47:53] I've got to say,

[47:54] over here on the east coast of the Flophouse,

[47:57] Audrey got some great video of Stuart and me and Natalie

[48:01] watching the movie with our headphones on

[48:04] and reacting to it,

[48:06] particularly Natalie's excitement at various moments,

[48:09] like when Skimbleshakes showed up.

Elliott Kalan

[48:11] Not to spoil it,

[48:12] but there's a moment where Natalie remembers that Skimbleshakes

[48:14] will come up later in the movie,

[48:16] and her delight is infectious.

Dan McCoy

[48:18] But I will share a few of those videos

[48:20] on the Flophouse Instagram and Twitter and such.

Elliott Kalan

[48:24] But we've also got years of other bonus content.

[48:26] You haven't listened to it.

[48:26] We did some special episodes about TV shows.

[48:29] We played a number of role-playing games

[48:30] that Stuart led us through.

[48:31] I think we're going to do some more at some point.

[48:33] And we might,

[48:33] we'll definitely do some more at some point.

[48:35] There's hours and hours of bonus content

[48:36] that you will have access to

[48:37] in addition to this year's new bonus content,

[48:39] the full-length Cats commentary.

[48:41] Now, as we said,

[48:42] some of our members can afford more than others.

[48:43] That's where those gift memberships come in.

[48:45] With a gift membership,

[48:46] you can help someone else gain access

[48:47] to all that great content

[48:49] while also getting that amazing,

[48:50] warm, smug feeling

[48:51] that we all love

[48:52] that comes from helping someone else

[48:54] and being like,

[48:54] yeah, I did that.

[48:55] They owe me,

[48:56] but they'll never find out why.

[48:58] So, and if you buy a gift membership,

[49:00] does the recipient get that bonus content?

[49:01] Yes, they do.

[49:02] So, thank you so much,

[49:03] everybody, for joining.

[49:05] And the most important thing

[49:06] is knowing that we need this money

[49:08] and also that we appreciate

[49:09] that you're giving us this money,

[49:11] that you're supporting artists like us

[49:12] that you like.

[49:14] But, in addition,

[49:15] wait, is there more than the bonus content?

[49:17] We've got a couple of gu-gu-gu-goals.

[49:19] Not gu-gu-gu-goals,

[49:21] but gu-gu-gu-goals.

[49:22] Don't be afraid of them.

[49:23] And if we reach,

[49:24] 1,900 new or upgrading members.

[49:27] And again, we're thankful

[49:28] to all of our members

[49:29] who stick with us,

[49:30] even if you don't upgrade.

[49:31] But if you do upgrade

[49:31] or you join with us,

[49:32] if you have 1,900 people,

[49:33] we will do another one

[49:35] of our kind of raffle drawings.

[49:37] We did these last year, I think.

[49:39] We'll do another raffle drawing

[49:40] where we'll pick random names

[49:42] from our donors,

[49:43] from our pledgers,

[49:44] and you will get a special giveaway

[49:46] from one of us.

[49:47] I'm going to give away

[49:47] some signed Maniac of New York comic books

[49:49] like I did last year.

[49:51] You guys,

[49:52] what do you plan on giving away?

Dan McCoy

[49:54] Last year, I did drawings.

[49:55] I was kind of open,

[49:58] I said,

[49:58] of a character that you want.

[50:00] I'm going to,

[50:01] this year,

[50:02] I think I'm going to be like,

[50:03] if there's a movie,

[50:05] New's only.

[50:06] If there's a movie you like,

[50:07] a particular movie

[50:08] that you like,

[50:09] your favorite movie,

[50:11] I'll do a drawing

[50:12] of a scene from it

[50:13] or a character from it

[50:15] and make it thematic

[50:17] to the Flophouse.

[50:19] And those will be

[50:20] Dan McCoy originals.

[50:21] And you heard him,

Stuart Wellington

[50:22] Sonic Pregnant,

[50:23] the movie.

[50:24] You get asked for the scene

[50:24] and he'll draw it.

[50:26] And I think I got some merch.

[50:27] I own a couple of bars

[50:28] and all those bars have merch,

[50:30] so something might come your way.

Elliott Kalan

[50:32] So you get some special,

[50:33] personalized stuff

[50:34] from the Flophouse.

[50:34] It'd be great.

[50:35] That's if we reach

[50:35] 1,900 new

[50:37] and upgrading members.

[50:39] We'll have a raffle

[50:39] of all our donors

[50:40] and we'll send those out.

[50:42] Goal two,

[50:43] there's another goal.

[50:44] If we reach 2,300

[50:45] new and upgrading members,

[50:46] that's only 400

[50:47] more than the previous goal.

[50:49] We're going to do

[50:49] another movie commentary.

[50:51] It's going to be...

[50:51] What?

Elliott Kalan

[50:52] I think this was

[50:52] the second place winner.

[50:53] The runner up.

[50:54] In the brackets,

[50:55] Country Bears.

[50:57] We'll do a full length

[50:58] Country Bears audio commentary

[50:59] that you can,

[51:00] you know,

[51:01] just play it

[51:02] while you watch the movie

[51:02] and it'll be hilarious.

[51:03] I mean...

[51:04] For a second,

Stuart Wellington

[51:04] I saw Elliot's face

[51:05] and I thought he was about

[51:06] to say food fight

[51:07] and it would have crushed me.

Elliott Kalan

[51:08] Well,

[51:09] I don't know, Stu,

[51:10] because here comes

[51:11] goal number three.

[51:12] Goal number two,

[51:12] if we reach 2,300,

[51:13] we'll do that

[51:14] Country Bears commentary.

[51:14] Goal number three,

[51:16] if we reach,

[51:17] I'll say it again,

[51:18] if we reach 3,000

[51:20] new and upgrading members,

[51:22] we are going to do

[51:23] quarterly movie commentaries.

[51:25] Every three months

[51:27] for the year,

[51:27] we'll do a movie commentary.

[51:29] You know one of them

[51:30] is going to have to be

[51:30] food fight.

[51:31] Sorry, Stu.

[51:32] It's going to happen.

[51:32] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[51:33] It's going to happen.

[51:33] But only if we reach

[51:34] 3,000 new and upgrading members.

[51:36] Torture Stu.

[51:37] Show him your love

[51:37] by torturing him

[51:38] with food fight.

[51:39] So please go to

[51:40] MaximumFun.org

[51:41] slash join right now.

[51:42] Don't wait to do it.

[51:43] Do it right now.

[51:44] I'm going to have another pitch

[51:44] for you in a little bit,

[51:45] just in case you forget.

[51:47] But please join right now

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[51:49] slash join

[51:50] and we now return

[51:51] to the Atom Project

[51:52] already in progress.

[51:53] So Dan,

[51:53] for anyone who

[51:54] is going,

[51:56] who paused the tape

[51:57] to go join

[51:58] at MaximumFun.org

[51:59] slash join,

[52:00] can you please explain

[52:00] where we are

[52:01] on the Atom Project?

Dan McCoy

[52:02] Well, we've learned

[52:04] that Zoe Saldana

[52:06] is still alive,

[52:07] but not for long.

[52:09] Spoiler alert.

[52:10] Laura?

[52:10] Or did we do that part?

[52:12] Laura.

[52:12] We didn't do that part yet.

[52:13] No, we didn't do that part yet.

[52:14] But she,

[52:14] and the Atoms

[52:16] are going to go off

[52:17] and fix history.

[52:19] And I got to say,

[52:20] I texted you something

[52:21] to this effect,

[52:22] but like,

[52:23] the first act

[52:24] of this movie

[52:25] is, you know,

[52:27] junk food,

[52:27] but I wasn't

[52:28] minding it that much.

[52:29] Like,

[52:29] I was like,

[52:30] eh,

[52:31] this is not such

[52:32] a great movie.

[52:34] Like,

[52:34] I don't enjoy

[52:35] the constant stream

[52:37] of quips

[52:38] back and forth.

[52:39] Yeah, harshly fair.

[52:39] But there's a certain

[52:40] charm to

[52:41] Ryan Reynolds

[52:43] like,

[52:43] just bumming around

[52:44] with his younger self

[52:46] in his life

[52:47] that the,

[52:48] that once the

[52:49] plot of the movie

[52:51] actually kicks in,

[52:52] I feel like the quality

[52:53] of this film

[52:54] drops precipitously.

[52:55] I feel like

[52:56] as soon as any action

[52:57] happens,

[52:58] I lose

[52:59] any interest

[53:01] in what's going

[53:02] on in this movie.

[53:03] And that's where

[53:04] we're at,

[53:04] where the action

[53:05] starts.

[53:06] Thank you so much

[53:07] for that update

[53:08] and also that

[53:08] personal story

[53:10] about how you feel.

[53:11] I think that's really

[53:11] lovely.

[53:12] Yeah,

Elliott Kalan

[53:12] it really makes it,

[53:13] it brings it home.

[53:14] So, okay,

[53:15] they go off,

[53:16] so the baddies,

[53:17] they show up,

[53:17] uh-oh,

[53:17] they found Laura's

[53:18] survival shack

[53:19] and she's like,

[53:20] old and young Adam,

[53:21] leave,

[53:21] save the day.

[53:22] And while she

[53:23] becomes a quipping

[53:24] badass and is just

[53:25] like,

[53:25] boom,

[53:26] and stuff blows up

[53:26] and, you know,

[53:27] whatever.

[53:28] Eventually,

[53:29] the Adams jump

[53:30] back in time

[53:31] in the jet

[53:32] and then

[53:32] Sorian kills Laura.

[53:33] She just shoots her

[53:34] with her jet lasers.

[53:35] The Adams get chased

[53:37] by Sorian and Christos

[53:38] and I couldn't tell here

[53:39] if this,

[53:39] they had already

[53:40] jumped back in time

[53:40] or not.

[53:41] but they pulled some fancy

[53:42] maneuvers to hide

[53:43] and then they jumped

[53:44] back to 2018.

[53:45] So I was like,

[53:46] oh,

[53:46] I guess they didn't

[53:47] jump back yet.

[53:47] Okay.

[53:48] The important thing is

[53:49] they jump back to 2018,

[53:51] they go and audit

[53:51] their dad's class

[53:52] at college

[53:53] and we see that

[53:54] Mark Ruffalo

[53:54] is one of those

[53:55] cool professors

[53:56] who is pretty quippy

[53:57] with his students

[53:59] and only talks about

[54:00] the most broadest

[54:01] principles of the subject.

[54:02] There's all these equations

[54:03] on the board behind him

[54:04] and he's just like,

[54:05] hey,

[54:06] the thing about physics

[54:07] is you'll never see

[54:08] the end of it.

[54:08] You're going to do your work

[54:10] and future generations

[54:10] will build on it

[54:11] long after you're dead.

[54:12] Anyway,

[54:13] that's my time.

[54:13] Got to go,

[54:14] everybody.

[54:14] I'm getting the light.

Dan McCoy

[54:15] Yeah,

[54:15] that part also annoyed me

[54:17] because he's like

[54:18] giving the message.

[54:19] He's telling them like,

[54:20] hey,

[54:20] don't be afraid of failure.

[54:21] Like,

[54:22] failure is good.

[54:23] You're not going to get

[54:24] anywhere without failing first.

[54:25] And I'm like,

[54:25] this is a great message,

[54:27] Mark Ruffalo,

[54:28] that absolutely would not be taught

[54:30] in the middle of like

[54:31] a math class.

Elliott Kalan

[54:32] So,

[54:32] and then he says,

[54:34] he goes,

[54:35] as the Romans said,

[54:36] it's later than you think.

[54:37] And Ryan Reynolds goes,

[54:38] actually,

[54:38] that's from a song.

[54:39] And he's like,

[54:40] well,

[54:40] it is from that song,

[54:41] but the Romans said it first.

[54:43] So,

[54:43] it's every dad's dream

[54:44] of their son trying to correct them

[54:46] and then them double correcting

[54:47] their son.

[54:47] Yes.

[54:48] When it happens,

[54:49] it's a sterling thing.

[54:50] Put him in his place.

[54:50] And they like,

Stuart Wellington

[54:51] they walk in

[54:52] and see their dad

[54:54] and there is,

[54:55] I feel like it felt like

[54:56] five minutes of just shots

[54:58] of their faces

[54:59] and like music swells.

[55:01] And I'm like,

[55:02] who loves their fucking dad

[55:04] this much?

Dan McCoy

[55:05] But they needed all those shots

[55:07] back and forth

[55:07] because that's how

[55:09] like Mark Ruffalo

[55:10] like immediately

[55:11] intuits

[55:11] that these are both his son

[55:14] from different times

[55:16] in the future.

Elliott Kalan

[55:17] If you ask,

[55:18] I spend a lot of time

[55:19] wondering,

[55:19] what are my kids going to look,

[55:20] what are my sons going to look like

[55:21] when they're older?

[55:22] Because I wouldn't have guessed

[55:23] that my son looks,

[55:25] my older son would look

[55:26] the way he is now

[55:26] when he was a baby.

[55:27] Although,

[55:27] I have to admit,

[55:28] he looks just like his grandfather

[55:29] when his grandfather was a kid.

[55:30] So,

[55:30] that was kind of a gimme.

[55:32] And the younger one

[55:33] looks like I looked

[55:34] when I was his age.

[55:35] But it's like,

[55:35] I wonder,

[55:36] what kind of person

[55:36] is he going to be?

[55:37] What is he going to look like?

[55:38] And yet,

[55:39] if my son...

[55:39] Yeah,

Dan McCoy

[55:42] you got to learn that lesson.

[55:43] They are in my family.

[55:44] We're a family of famous models,

Elliott Kalan

[55:45] Stu.

[55:46] Yeah,

[55:46] that's my mistake.

[55:48] Famous Boys Modeling Academy.

Stuart Wellington

[55:50] That's all.

[55:50] It's family.

Elliott Kalan

[55:51] Yeah.

[55:51] If my son as a grown-up

[55:53] walked up to me,

[55:54] I wouldn't be like,

[55:55] Sammy?

[55:56] I would be like,

[55:56] who's this man?

[55:57] What's going on?

[55:58] I don't know who this man is.

[56:00] Can I help you, sir?

[56:00] Are you in the wrong class?

[56:01] Why is he talking to me about

[56:01] Guy Lombardo?

[56:03] Because he has the same

[56:05] musical interest

[56:06] as the characters

[56:06] in Guys and Dolls.

[56:08] Yeah.

[56:09] But the...

[56:10] So he immediately goes,

[56:12] you're Adam,

[56:12] aren't you?

[56:13] This is about time travel,

[56:14] isn't it?

[56:15] And it's so funny

[56:16] that the movie is like,

[56:17] whatever,

[56:18] who cares?

[56:19] Like,

[56:19] they just pick it up.

[56:20] We don't want to waste time

[56:21] confusing him.

[56:22] It's fine.

[56:22] Or convincing him.

[56:23] And they do

[56:25] what is the funniest thing

[56:26] to me in this movie,

[56:27] which is,

[56:28] they're walking across

[56:29] the campus

[56:29] talking very loudly

[56:31] about how they're

[56:32] from the future

[56:33] and how time travel

[56:34] is creating all these paradoxes.

[56:35] And then they start

[56:36] punching each other

[56:37] in the face

[56:37] for some reason

[56:38] and nobody

[56:39] on the quad

[56:40] notices,

[56:41] cares,

[56:42] listens.

[56:42] If my professor

[56:43] was walking around

[56:44] having a loud argument

[56:45] with someone

[56:46] and then they started

[56:46] punching each other,

[56:47] I would at the very least

[56:48] run over to see

[56:49] if he was okay.

[56:50] Yeah.

[56:50] I would call campus security.

Stuart Wellington

[56:52] Get that shit,

[56:53] send it right over

[56:54] to what is New York.

Elliott Kalan

[56:56] You'd upload it to YouTube

[56:58] with the title,

[57:00] this professor met his son

[57:02] from the future

[57:02] and you'll never guess

[57:03] what happens next.

Dan McCoy

[57:05] It's also this case of like,

[57:08] Mark Ruffalo immediately

[57:10] is like super principled,

[57:13] can't mess with the time stream,

[57:15] like arguing,

[57:17] does not let any word

[57:19] in edgewise at first

[57:20] and then,

[57:21] but then,

[57:21] which like,

[57:22] okay,

[57:22] fine.

[57:23] It feels contrived,

[57:24] but fine.

[57:24] But then,

[57:26] as soon as he learns

[57:27] what the future is like

[57:28] and what's going on,

[57:29] he's still like,

[57:31] yeah,

[57:32] but we should probably

[57:32] just let it happen

[57:34] like that.

[57:34] Well,

Elliott Kalan

[57:34] it reminds me,

[57:35] there's all these stories

[57:36] where like,

[57:36] someone goes back in time

[57:37] and kills Hitler

[57:38] as a child

[57:39] and then an even worse

[57:40] dictator arises

[57:41] and it's like,

[57:42] I kind of get what you're saying,

[57:44] but at the same time,

[57:45] I don't really think

[57:46] there's anybody worse than that.

[57:47] Like,

[57:47] this seems like an unlikely,

[57:49] this is an unlikely argument

[57:50] for not killing Hitler.

[57:52] So when they're like,

[57:53] hey,

[57:53] your boss went back in time

[57:54] and became Hitler

[57:55] and he's like,

[57:56] we shouldn't change anything.

[57:57] It's like,

[57:58] I don't,

[57:59] it's a worst case scenario.

[58:00] I don't know what you're making better.

Stuart Wellington

[58:03] If you go back in time

[58:03] and kill Hitler

[58:04] and then a worse guy comes,

[58:06] I think the answer's really clear.

[58:07] You just go back in time

[58:08] and kill that guy.

[58:09] Go back and kill that guy.

Elliott Kalan

[58:09] That's the thing about time travel.

[58:11] You kill that guy as a baby.

[58:13] Here's the secret.

[58:14] Look,

[58:14] here's the secret to anyone wondering.

[58:16] Everyone started as a baby.

[58:17] You can always go back

[58:18] to when a bad guy was a baby.

[58:19] Always do it.

[58:20] There's no bad guy

[58:21] that Benjamin Button

[58:22] came out as Hitler.

[58:23] They are always a baby first.

Dan McCoy

[58:24] Elliot,

[58:24] also,

[58:25] now I want you to write a book

[58:27] that's like,

[58:28] you know,

[58:29] one of those like gift books

[58:30] that just have like,

[58:31] like a,

[58:32] I don't know,

[58:33] like a deep thoughts

[58:34] or whatever.

[58:34] It's like unlikely reasons

[58:36] for not killing Hitler.

[58:39] One of the unlikeliest reasons.

Elliott Kalan

[58:41] It's also,

[58:42] it always bugs me

[58:43] when they go back

[58:44] to kill Hitler in stories

[58:45] and he's a baby

[58:46] and they're like,

[58:46] I can't do it.

[58:47] It's not fair to kill him

[58:48] before he's committed his crimes.

[58:50] It's like,

[58:50] uh,

[58:50] do it.

[58:51] Like,

[58:51] come on everybody.

[58:53] Yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[58:53] he's got the mustache.

[58:54] You know who he is.

Elliott Kalan

[58:55] He's a baby with a mustache.

[58:56] You see the future.

[58:57] He's not going to change,

[58:58] right?

[58:58] Yeah,

[58:59] this isn't Minority Report

[59:00] where we're guessing

[59:01] at what the future

[59:02] is going to be.

[59:02] Like,

[59:03] he had free will.

[59:04] He used it

[59:04] in the worst way possible.

[59:06] Let's just take him

[59:06] off the board,

[59:07] shall we?

[59:07] So I guess what I'm saying

[59:08] is if you,

[59:09] if you have a time machine,

[59:10] you're thinking about

[59:10] killing Hitler,

[59:11] but you're squeamish

[59:12] about suffocating a baby,

[59:14] tag me in.

[59:15] Send me out there.

[59:16] I'll just go do it.

[59:17] That's fine.

[59:18] You know,

[59:19] um,

[59:19] if they,

[59:20] if you're worried

[59:20] about changing the future,

[59:21] I will,

[59:23] yeah,

[59:23] just get,

[59:24] exactly.

[59:24] Look me up.

[59:25] Task,

[59:25] this is why I should

[59:27] get on TaskRabbit.

[59:27] I'm not on it,

[59:28] but I should get on it

[59:29] in case,

[59:29] and I'll say,

[59:30] skills,

[59:31] killing baby Hitler,

[59:32] and then nothing else.

[59:33] Hire me for that.

[59:35] Anyway,

[59:35] so,

[59:36] uh,

[59:36] they're talking to him

[59:37] and he feels guilty

[59:38] about creating the technology

[59:39] that Sorian uses

[59:40] to become the future

[59:41] Lady Hitler.

[59:42] Uh,

[59:42] but he's like,

[59:42] hey,

[59:43] but you guys need to leave.

[59:44] We can't have any more

[59:44] time conundrums.

[59:46] And old Adam

[59:47] really resents Dad,

[59:48] and young Adam

[59:49] just wants some time with him,

[59:50] and,

[59:50] uh,

[59:51] and Dad is like,

[59:51] no,

[59:51] we can't do it,

[59:52] and don't tell me

[59:53] about when I die.

[59:54] Um,

[59:54] and this is when I was like,

[59:55] why didn't they go back to

[59:56] before Sorian showed up?

[59:57] Why did they go back

[59:58] to the year that she showed up?

[1:00:00] It doesn't really,

[1:00:01] again,

[1:00:01] go back to when Sorian

[1:00:02] was a baby,

[1:00:03] like,

[1:00:03] and take her out.

[1:00:04] Yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:04] go back when there isn't

[1:00:05] a ticking clock.

[1:00:06] Like,

[1:00:06] when you have a little bit

[1:00:07] more time,

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:08] you can deal with this shit.

[1:00:10] Uh,

[1:00:10] old Sorian visits

[1:00:11] young Sorian,

[1:00:12] and young Sorian is like,

[1:00:16] well,

[1:00:17] that's too bad

[1:00:17] because we need to go

[1:00:18] kill a kid,

[1:00:19] so,

[1:00:19] uh,

[1:00:19] so drink up.

[1:00:21] And,

[1:00:21] uh,

[1:00:22] so young Adam

[1:00:23] and old Adam

[1:00:23] have a heart-to-heart,

[1:00:24] and old Adam's like,

[1:00:25] I'm mad that Dad

[1:00:26] was never around,

[1:00:27] and young Adam's like,

[1:00:28] Dad was around a lot.

[1:00:28] You're mad that Dad died,

[1:00:30] and you're remembering

[1:00:31] it was worse than he was,

[1:00:32] so you feel less sad about it,

[1:00:33] and it's easier to be angry

[1:00:35] than sad,

[1:00:36] and that's what I'm learning,

[1:00:37] and old Adam's like,

[1:00:38] hey,

[1:00:38] you're right,

[1:00:39] he's wise beyond his years

[1:00:40] because he's mad himself

[1:00:41] from the future,

[1:00:41] uh,

[1:00:42] and Dad is anxious

[1:00:43] about his sons,

[1:00:44] so the next day

[1:00:45] he talks to his,

[1:00:46] to Jennifer Garner about it,

[1:00:47] and she's like,

[1:00:48] hey,

[1:00:48] you don't need to be

[1:00:49] a perfect dad,

[1:00:50] you just need to be there

[1:00:51] for your son,

[1:00:52] and the mom,

[1:00:52] who has not been quippy

[1:00:53] up to this point,

[1:00:54] is extremely quippy here,

[1:00:56] and I'm like,

[1:00:56] oh,

[1:00:57] that's where he gets it,

[1:00:57] okay,

[1:00:58] I understand.

[1:00:59] Uh,

[1:01:00] the old,

[1:01:00] old and young Adams,

[1:01:01] they go to the Sorian

[1:01:02] headquarters

[1:01:03] to blow up the time reactor,

[1:01:05] it is weirdly deserted,

[1:01:06] nobody seems to work there,

[1:01:07] maybe they went on Yom Kippur,

[1:01:09] I don't know,

[1:01:10] it was Christmas or something,

[1:01:11] like,

[1:01:11] there's nobody there,

[1:01:13] you know,

[1:01:13] they got Cesar Chavez day off,

[1:01:15] great,

[1:01:15] okay,

[1:01:16] good,

[1:01:16] there's nobody at work today,

[1:01:17] uh,

[1:01:17] and,

[1:01:18] but the bad guys show up

[1:01:19] from the future,

[1:01:20] young Adam,

[1:01:20] does he use his video game skills

[1:01:22] to pilot a drone

[1:01:23] to blow up bad guys?

[1:01:24] You bet he does,

[1:01:25] does it hit him at any point

[1:01:26] that he is murdering people,

[1:01:27] and their blood is on his hands,

[1:01:29] or their dust?

[1:01:30] Nope,

[1:01:30] doesn't seem to be bothered by it.

Stuart Wellington

[1:01:31] One of the wild things

[1:01:32] is how quickly they escalate

[1:01:34] to like,

[1:01:34] just straight murdering people.

[1:01:35] No, no,

[1:01:36] Denise Richards is one of the wild things.

[1:01:38] That's true,

[1:01:39] she is one of the wild things,

[1:01:40] along with Nev Campbell,

[1:01:42] yeah,

[1:01:43] yeah,

[1:01:43] Nev Campbell,

[1:01:44] I pronounced it correct.

Elliott Kalan

[1:01:44] The movie and book

[1:01:45] where the wild things are

[1:01:46] is about a kid

[1:01:47] going to an island

[1:01:47] where Nev Campbell

[1:01:48] and Denise Richards live?

Dan McCoy

[1:01:50] That's correct.

[1:01:50] And Kevin Bacon's dick.

[1:01:52] And then the wild rumpus starts.

Elliott Kalan

[1:01:53] So the wild rumpus

[1:01:54] is very different

[1:01:55] than I thought it was.

[1:01:57] That is some rumpus.

Dan McCoy

[1:01:58] It's a very erotic rumpus.

[1:01:59] It would be so funny,

[1:02:00] Maurice Sendak is talking to us.

[1:02:00] Why are you looking at me,

[1:02:01] Dan?

[1:02:02] You know.

[1:02:03] Don't act like

[1:02:04] you haven't seen

[1:02:05] Wild Things.

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:06] Maurice Sendak

[1:02:07] is talking to his publisher,

[1:02:09] and they're like,

[1:02:09] you gotta change this scene

[1:02:10] where this kid

[1:02:11] pours champagne

[1:02:11] all over Denise Richards' breasts.

[1:02:13] Like,

[1:02:13] we can't have this.

[1:02:14] And he's like,

[1:02:15] but I was gonna work

[1:02:15] with the Gushers people.

[1:02:16] We had a big contract.

[1:02:19] Anyway,

[1:02:20] so they're at the HQ

[1:02:22] and it looks like

[1:02:24] old Adam is gonna be killed

[1:02:25] when a car

[1:02:26] sideswipes him

[1:02:27] and smashes into another car,

[1:02:29] thus causing the bad guys

[1:02:30] to disappear.

[1:02:31] It's Mark Ruffalo.

[1:02:32] That's right,

[1:02:32] Dad showed up

[1:02:33] at the exact moment

[1:02:34] he needed to be there

[1:02:35] to smash a car.

[1:02:36] That's what everyone does

[1:02:37] in this movie.

[1:02:39] Look,

[1:02:39] they're a family,

[1:02:40] they're in love,

[1:02:40] and they kill people.

[1:02:41] And Dad is like-

Stuart Wellington

[1:02:42] There's also a moment

[1:02:43] when young Adam

[1:02:44] uses the drone

[1:02:45] to blast some baddies.

[1:02:46] And again,

[1:02:47] blast him with an AOE attack

[1:02:49] does not hurt old Adam at all,

[1:02:51] doesn't touch him,

[1:02:52] just kills only baddies.

[1:02:53] It's pretty impressive.

[1:02:54] And young Adam says,

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:55] I'm definitely keeping this

[1:02:56] when this is over.

[1:02:57] And it's like,

[1:02:57] wait,

[1:02:58] you're keeping a drone

[1:02:59] you use to murder people?

[1:03:00] That's not okay.

[1:03:01] That's not something

[1:03:02] you should have.

[1:03:03] You're a kid.

[1:03:04] Nobody should-

[1:03:04] I mean,

[1:03:05] adults shouldn't have that

[1:03:06] as the New York Times

[1:03:06] made clear

[1:03:07] in a special report today.

[1:03:09] Thank you.

[1:03:09] Oh, boy.

[1:03:09] Yeah.

[1:03:10] Makes me very unhappy.

[1:03:11] But anyway,

[1:03:11] Dad shows up

[1:03:13] and he's like,

[1:03:13] look,

[1:03:13] as a family,

[1:03:15] we're going to destroy

[1:03:16] the hard drive

[1:03:17] that has the only copy

[1:03:18] of the time travel algorithm

[1:03:19] on it.

[1:03:20] That's what's going to save the day.

[1:03:22] But while they're there,

[1:03:23] Sorian shows up,

[1:03:24] old and new,

[1:03:25] and they demand the drive

[1:03:27] and old Sorian ends up

[1:03:28] holding a gun

[1:03:29] to young Adam's head.

[1:03:30] But young Adam in a,

[1:03:33] okay,

[1:03:33] it's like he hits her hand,

[1:03:35] which causes the gun to fire

[1:03:37] and the reactor is a magnet.

[1:03:39] Oh,

[1:03:39] I forgot to mention

[1:03:40] the reactor,

[1:03:41] they're in the reactor room

[1:03:42] and it has a magnet capability,

[1:03:44] but the magnet only pulls things

[1:03:45] that are necessary

[1:03:46] for the plot

[1:03:47] to be pulled.

[1:03:48] Well,

[1:03:49] at the exact moment

[1:03:51] it's necessary.

[1:03:52] So like,

[1:03:52] the buttons on people's clothing

[1:03:54] get pulled off

[1:03:55] and pulled to the magnet,

[1:03:56] zapped style,

[1:03:57] but then she's holding a gun,

[1:03:58] she fires a bullet,

[1:03:59] and the bullet gets pulled

[1:04:01] by the reactor

[1:04:01] to hit her young self.

[1:04:04] I don't know why the gun

[1:04:04] was never pulled by the reactor,

[1:04:05] it's full of metal.

[1:04:06] And Mark Ruffalo later was like,

[1:04:08] I knew those guns,

[1:04:09] those bullets have a metal core.

[1:04:11] And so the reactor would pull it

[1:04:12] once it was fired.

[1:04:13] It was like,

[1:04:13] wait,

[1:04:13] so the reactor didn't know

[1:04:14] there were bullets in there

[1:04:15] until they came out of the gun?

[1:04:16] That's the thing.

[1:04:17] That's not how magnets work.

Dan McCoy

[1:04:18] There are non-magnetic metals,

[1:04:20] but the fact that there was

[1:04:21] a magnetic bullet in there,

[1:04:23] if it was powerful enough

[1:04:25] to change the course of the bullet,

[1:04:27] like wanted style,

[1:04:29] yeah,

[1:04:29] it should have pulled the gun away.

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:30] I knew the reactor

[1:04:32] would pull the bullet

[1:04:32] to exactly where

[1:04:33] young Sorian was standing to,

[1:04:35] which is nuts.

[1:04:36] And it was also,

[1:04:37] it takes a,

[1:04:38] so young Sorian,

[1:04:39] you can tell,

[1:04:40] is very,

[1:04:40] is not okay

[1:04:42] with all the gun shooting

[1:04:43] that old Sorian is doing.

[1:04:45] And I expected there to be a moment

[1:04:46] where young Sorian

[1:04:47] jumps in the path of that bullet

[1:04:49] and sacrifices herself

[1:04:51] on purpose

[1:04:52] as a definitive,

[1:04:54] like on purpose,

[1:04:56] what's the word I'm looking for?

[1:04:57] The opposite of an accident

[1:04:59] as a deliberate act.

[1:05:00] And she does it

[1:05:01] as a deliberate act

[1:05:02] to save the future.

[1:05:03] But instead,

[1:05:03] she's just standing

[1:05:04] in the wrong place

[1:05:04] at the wrong time.

[1:05:05] It was like,

[1:05:06] oh, okay,

[1:05:06] so Catherine Keener

[1:05:07] didn't get her hero moment.

[1:05:10] And the Sorians disappear.

[1:05:12] It cracks the big

[1:05:13] electromagnet reactor

[1:05:14] even more.

[1:05:15] And metal stuff

[1:05:15] is flying everywhere.

[1:05:16] Of course,

[1:05:17] they're going to have fights

[1:05:18] and their weapons

[1:05:19] do not get pulled over

[1:05:20] to the metal stuff.

[1:05:21] Only the bad guy's armor

[1:05:22] gets pulled over.

[1:05:22] Wait a minute.

Stuart Wellington

[1:05:23] I got a question about this.

[1:05:24] So if young Sorian dies

[1:05:26] and then old Sorian

[1:05:27] dies immediately.

[1:05:29] Yes,

[1:05:29] like Time Cop.

[1:05:29] But your memory

[1:05:31] doesn't change

[1:05:32] until you go back

[1:05:33] to your own time.

[1:05:34] Yeah.

[1:05:35] You got to go back

[1:05:35] in time.

[1:05:36] No, but,

[1:05:37] well, wait.

[1:05:38] Shouldn't,

[1:05:38] wouldn't it have worked

[1:05:39] the same way?

[1:05:39] Wouldn't she have been fine

[1:05:40] until she went back

[1:05:41] to her own time

[1:05:42] and then she would have died?

[1:05:44] Yeah, I think so.

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:45] But that's not what happened.

[1:05:47] Yeah, I think you're right,

[1:05:48] but that's not what happened.

[1:05:49] Okay, cool.

[1:05:49] There's a lot of,

[1:05:51] oh, you know what?

[1:05:52] I skipped ahead

[1:05:53] past all the fights.

[1:05:54] Anyway,

[1:05:54] there's lots of fighting

[1:05:55] and blah, blah, blah.

[1:05:55] And that stuff happens.

[1:05:57] And yeah,

[1:05:57] the dad acts like he knew

[1:05:58] it was going to happen.

[1:05:59] They all run from the reactor.

[1:05:59] Christos dies, yep.

[1:06:00] I skipped over the fact

[1:06:02] where young Adam

[1:06:03] does a superhero landing

[1:06:04] with his lightsaber

[1:06:06] and all that.

[1:06:06] Anyway,

[1:06:07] Christos dies.

[1:06:08] They all run from the reactor

[1:06:09] just as they escape,

[1:06:10] just as it explodes

[1:06:11] and they're fine.

[1:06:13] Yeah.

[1:06:14] They run behind

[1:06:15] blast-proof doors

[1:06:16] and it's one of the things

[1:06:17] where his dad is like,

[1:06:18] oh, if this thing explodes,

[1:06:19] it'll kill every living thing

[1:06:21] within 100 miles.

[1:06:22] Once they're outside those doors,

[1:06:24] everyone's fine.

[1:06:25] So I guess he was just,

[1:06:26] he was like me

[1:06:26] when I tell my children

[1:06:27] don't jump on the top

[1:06:29] of the bunk bed

[1:06:29] because you'll fall off

[1:06:30] and your head will crack open

[1:06:31] and you'll die,

[1:06:32] which never happens.

[1:06:33] He was just exaggerating

[1:06:34] to scare his kids.

[1:06:36] They've saved the day.

[1:06:38] Young Sorian,

[1:06:38] rather than saving the day herself,

[1:06:40] has just been

[1:06:40] an innocent bystander

[1:06:42] to a magnetized future bullet.

[1:06:44] And dad says,

[1:06:45] hey,

[1:06:45] I could tell from your faces

[1:06:47] that I'm dead

[1:06:48] where you come from.

[1:06:49] Don't tell me

[1:06:49] how or when I die.

[1:06:51] It's not,

[1:06:51] I don't need to change

[1:06:51] the future anymore.

[1:06:52] I love both of them.

[1:06:53] I'm proud of them.

[1:06:53] Hey,

[1:06:54] let's play catch

[1:06:55] until you go back

[1:06:55] to the future.

Dan McCoy

[1:06:56] Yeah.

[1:06:56] I want to say,

[1:06:57] sorry,

[1:06:59] I like,

[1:07:00] I,

[1:07:01] okay,

[1:07:01] I was actually

[1:07:02] kind of moved

[1:07:03] by when Mark Ruffalo,

[1:07:05] because he's Mark Ruffalo,

[1:07:06] come on guys.

[1:07:06] Yeah,

[1:07:06] he's a great actor.

[1:07:08] He's a fantastic actor.

[1:07:09] He's in the cut.

[1:07:10] Kept telling.

Elliott Kalan

[1:07:10] Until we find out

[1:07:12] something terrible about him,

[1:07:13] I'll just praise him

[1:07:13] and say he's a great actor.

Dan McCoy

[1:07:14] You know?

[1:07:14] Yeah,

[1:07:15] kept telling Ryan Reynolds,

[1:07:17] hey,

[1:07:18] you know,

[1:07:19] I love,

[1:07:19] I love you.

[1:07:20] I love you.

[1:07:20] You're like,

[1:07:21] you've always been special to me.

[1:07:22] I love you.

[1:07:22] Like,

[1:07:23] he says it over and over again.

[1:07:24] Yeah.

[1:07:25] In a way that like,

[1:07:26] I found generally moving

[1:07:27] because it actually made sense

[1:07:30] that Ryan Reynolds,

[1:07:32] quippy Ryan Reynolds

[1:07:33] would need that much

[1:07:35] to break through.

[1:07:36] Yeah.

[1:07:37] To like,

[1:07:37] the soft inner core.

[1:07:39] But then.

Elliott Kalan

[1:07:40] To the gusher,

[1:07:41] to the pee inside the gusher.

[1:07:42] Yeah.

[1:07:42] But then they're like,

Dan McCoy

[1:07:43] oh,

[1:07:43] what do we do until we go back?

[1:07:45] And I'm like,

[1:07:45] fuck you movie.

[1:07:46] Because I could see what was coming

[1:07:47] and yet,

[1:07:48] sure enough,

[1:07:48] they're going to have a catch.

[1:07:49] And I,

[1:07:51] the movie's obsession

[1:07:54] with father-son catch

[1:07:56] as like,

[1:07:57] the one thing that,

[1:07:59] like,

[1:07:59] it is such a cliche.

[1:08:01] It is.

[1:08:01] Think of another goddamn thing.

[1:08:02] But I'll tell you this, Dan.

[1:08:03] I have many fond memories

[1:08:04] of my father.

[1:08:06] I have some less fond

[1:08:07] as,

[1:08:08] you know,

[1:08:08] anyone who has a family

[1:08:09] understands.

[1:08:10] But none of them involved

[1:08:11] a goddamn catch.

[1:08:14] Like,

[1:08:14] find something more interesting.

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:15] I'll say,

[1:08:16] I'll say two things, Dan.

[1:08:17] One is agreeing

[1:08:17] and one is disagreeing.

[1:08:18] First,

[1:08:18] the disagreeing.

Dan McCoy

[1:08:19] When I play catch with my son,

[1:08:20] it's pretty special.

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:21] It's like,

[1:08:22] it is a moment when

[1:08:23] you and your child

[1:08:24] are in tune

[1:08:26] in a way

[1:08:26] that's beyond words.

[1:08:28] You are just

[1:08:28] physically moving

[1:08:30] kind of in a way

[1:08:30] that is in rhythm

[1:08:31] with each other.

[1:08:32] You have to cooperate

[1:08:33] for this thing to work.

[1:08:34] You're not competing.

[1:08:35] It's just total cooperation

[1:08:37] and it's,

[1:08:38] and you don't have to say anything

[1:08:38] and you're just kind of like

[1:08:39] merging on a,

[1:08:40] on a soul level.

[1:08:42] It is very special.

[1:08:43] On the other hand,

[1:08:44] if you're going to make

[1:08:45] a time travel movie,

[1:08:45] don't put baseball in it

[1:08:46] because frequency exists

[1:08:47] and it's a much better movie.

[1:08:49] And if you're going to watch

[1:08:50] a time travel movie

[1:08:50] that has baseball in it,

[1:08:51] you go watch frequency.

[1:08:52] It's a much better movie.

[1:08:53] I know Jim Camus

[1:08:53] is a weirdo.

[1:08:54] It's a much better movie

Dan McCoy

[1:08:54] about dads and sons.

[1:08:55] If you want a moving

[1:08:56] dad catch,

[1:08:57] go to Field of Dreams.

[1:08:59] You don't need to

[1:08:59] bring time travel into it.

[1:09:00] At least that's a movie

[1:09:01] about baseball

[1:09:02] so it makes perfect sense.

[1:09:03] Well,

[1:09:03] social frequency

[1:09:04] is also a movie

[1:09:05] about baseball,

[1:09:06] but still.

Elliott Kalan

[1:09:07] It's about dads

[1:09:08] and also about dads.

[1:09:08] There's better,

[1:09:09] what we're saying is

[1:09:10] there's better

[1:09:10] dad catch movies

[1:09:11] so stop doing it.

[1:09:12] And so,

[1:09:13] but it's also one of the things

[1:09:14] where it's like,

[1:09:15] well,

[1:09:16] old Sorian disappeared

[1:09:17] as soon as young Sorian died.

[1:09:19] You two will eventually

[1:09:20] fade away into your proper times.

[1:09:22] We don't know

[1:09:22] when that's going to happen.

[1:09:23] I guess we'll kill some time.

[1:09:24] So they play catch

[1:09:25] until they fade away.

Dan McCoy

[1:09:27] Yeah,

[1:09:27] they suddenly disappear

[1:09:28] and I thought it would be hilarious

[1:09:29] if that's what killed Marlo.

[1:09:31] He had a heart attack

[1:09:31] when they suddenly both disappeared.

Elliott Kalan

[1:09:33] from the shock of it.

[1:09:35] I love that

[1:09:36] because then it's a time paradox,

[1:09:38] you know,

[1:09:38] that's great.

[1:09:39] What came first?

[1:09:40] The chicken

[1:09:41] or the chicken dying

[1:09:42] of a heart attack

[1:09:42] when its egg disappeared.

[1:09:44] Old Adam tells young Adam,

[1:09:45] hey,

[1:09:46] give mom a hug for me.

[1:09:47] Now we go back to young Adam.

[1:09:48] He gives mom a hug,

[1:09:50] a big hug

[1:09:50] and she's kind of surprised by it.

[1:09:52] Then we're in the future.

[1:09:54] Adam is at a space lecture

[1:09:55] and Ryan Reynolds,

[1:09:57] when Laura walks in

[1:09:58] and sits next to him,

[1:10:00] they immediately start

[1:10:01] quip flirting

[1:10:01] and he says,

[1:10:02] hey,

[1:10:03] you're in the wrong room.

[1:10:03] I'm in the wrong building.

[1:10:04] I'll walk you to where

[1:10:05] you're supposed to go

[1:10:06] and she goes,

[1:10:06] are you sure?

[1:10:06] And he goes,

[1:10:07] I've got time.

[1:10:08] Elliot,

[1:10:09] are you telling me

Stuart Wellington

[1:10:10] this movie does the ending

[1:10:11] of Irreversible?

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:14] Not exactly.

[1:10:15] Not really.

[1:10:17] Technically,

[1:10:17] I don't think so.

[1:10:19] I don't,

[1:10:19] on a very technical level maybe.

[1:10:22] But it is,

[1:10:22] that is the one constant

[1:10:24] in the universe

[1:10:25] and on all time frames

[1:10:26] is that Laura and Adam

[1:10:28] will fall in love

[1:10:29] with each other

[1:10:29] and he's a student

[1:10:31] and she's a guest lecturer.

[1:10:32] So I guess it's implied

[1:10:33] that there's an age differential there

[1:10:35] but I don't know what it is.

[1:10:36] I guess he went to school

[1:10:37] late in life.

Dan McCoy

[1:10:37] her time with so many quips

[1:10:39] when she comes in.

[1:10:40] Before it says that

[1:10:41] she's a guest lecturer,

[1:10:42] I'm like,

[1:10:42] she's trying to listen

[1:10:43] to the fucking thing, dude.

[1:10:45] She's here to get educated anyway.

[1:10:47] Stop doing bits, dude.

[1:10:49] Yeah,

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:50] stop doing it,

[1:10:50] but he can't stop doing bits

[1:10:51] and that's the Adam project.

[1:10:53] The project to create a man

[1:10:55] who's all quips and bits

[1:10:56] and doesn't know

[1:10:58] what his feelings are.

[1:10:59] So that's,

[1:11:00] yeah,

[1:11:00] that's the Adam project.

[1:11:01] Guys,

[1:11:01] how do you feel about it?

[1:11:02] What's your final judgment about it?

Dan McCoy

[1:11:03] Final judgments

[1:11:04] where we say

[1:11:05] whether this is a good,

[1:11:06] bad movie,

[1:11:07] a bad,

[1:11:08] bad movie

[1:11:08] or a movie we liked.

[1:11:11] Like I said,

[1:11:12] during the first part

[1:11:14] of the movie,

[1:11:15] I kind of thought like,

[1:11:17] okay,

[1:11:17] this is junk food

[1:11:19] but junk food

[1:11:20] has its place.

[1:11:21] like,

[1:11:22] I don't love it

[1:11:24] but I could see this being like

[1:11:26] an amiable time waster,

[1:11:28] let's call it.

[1:11:29] Sure, yeah, yeah.

[1:11:29] But then,

[1:11:30] as soon as the plot kicked in,

[1:11:33] I'm like,

[1:11:33] I do not care about any of this

[1:11:35] and part of it is because,

[1:11:37] as Elliot says,

[1:11:37] the movie doesn't seem to care.

[1:11:39] Like,

[1:11:40] I think people misunderstand

[1:11:41] the idea of stakes

[1:11:42] where they think like,

[1:11:44] oh,

[1:11:45] you know,

[1:11:45] your movie has to have stakes

[1:11:47] and the makers

[1:11:48] of the Adam project

[1:11:49] would be like,

[1:11:50] oh, yeah,

[1:11:50] like,

[1:11:51] we're saving the whole world.

[1:11:52] We're saving the future.

[1:11:53] We have,

[1:11:54] you know,

[1:11:55] like,

[1:11:55] we have high stakes

[1:11:57] but it's,

[1:11:59] it's not that.

[1:11:59] I mean,

[1:11:59] don't put it too high.

[1:12:00] I'm short.

[1:12:00] I can't reach him.

Stuart Wellington

[1:12:02] No,

[1:12:03] it's a good way

[1:12:04] to kill giant.

Dan McCoy

[1:12:04] It has to be a thing

[1:12:06] that you're making

[1:12:08] a connection to.

[1:12:10] Like,

[1:12:11] it has to feel real

[1:12:12] and that's what this doesn't have

[1:12:14] and what makes it

[1:12:15] ultimately just kind of

[1:12:17] boring noise

[1:12:19] in the background.

[1:12:20] So I'm going to say,

[1:12:21] you know,

[1:12:23] I kind of liked it

[1:12:24] at the beginning

[1:12:24] but ultimately bad,

[1:12:26] bad.

Stuart Wellington

[1:12:27] Guys,

[1:12:27] I think,

[1:12:28] I think I'm,

[1:12:29] I think I've reached

[1:12:30] my fill of Ryan Reynolds.

[1:12:32] Yeah.

[1:12:32] I don't think I need any more.

[1:12:34] It's always,

[1:12:35] I don't see him doing,

[1:12:37] I don't,

[1:12:38] I don't see him doing

[1:12:39] a project

[1:12:39] where he doesn't

[1:12:40] just do his thing.

[1:12:42] Yes.

[1:12:42] And that's fine,

[1:12:43] man.

[1:12:44] That's,

[1:12:44] if people like it

[1:12:45] but that's,

[1:12:46] that's not my bag.

Elliott Kalan

[1:12:47] It's always disappointing

[1:12:49] when you reach that point

[1:12:50] with someone who you kind,

[1:12:51] who you genuinely kind of like

[1:12:52] for a little bit

[1:12:53] and then you've seen

[1:12:53] what they can do

[1:12:54] and you get kind of tired.

[1:12:55] I feel like,

[1:12:56] I was thinking about,

[1:12:57] I was like,

[1:12:58] I don't,

[1:12:58] I didn't always not like

[1:12:59] Chris Pratt.

[1:13:00] Like,

[1:13:00] when he was on Parks and Rec,

[1:13:01] I was like,

[1:13:01] there's a reason this guy

[1:13:02] is a breakout performer

[1:13:03] on this show

[1:13:04] and then he just does

[1:13:05] the same thing

[1:13:06] over and over again

[1:13:07] and you're like,

[1:13:07] okay,

[1:13:07] I've seen what he can do,

[1:13:09] like,

[1:13:09] that's,

[1:13:10] I'm done,

[1:13:10] I'm over it.

[1:13:10] I feel like,

[1:13:11] yeah,

[1:13:11] with Ryan Reynolds,

[1:13:11] it's similar.

[1:13:12] And he's a weirdo.

[1:13:13] well,

[1:13:13] this was before

[1:13:14] his weirdo stuff came out.

[1:13:16] But Ryan Reynolds,

[1:13:16] who I don't know

[1:13:17] if he's a weirdo,

[1:13:18] yeah,

[1:13:18] it's like,

[1:13:19] we've seen what he can do

[1:13:20] and he just keeps doing it

[1:13:20] and it's like,

[1:13:21] all right.

Stuart Wellington

[1:13:22] And yesterday,

[1:13:23] I was talking to my buddy

[1:13:24] Alejandro Arbona

[1:13:25] about the movie

[1:13:27] The Lost City,

[1:13:27] a movie I have not seen

[1:13:28] but the trailer

[1:13:29] looks very amiable.

[1:13:31] But apparently,

[1:13:32] there is a point

[1:13:32] where Ryan Reynolds

[1:13:33] was attached to play

[1:13:35] the Channing Tatum character.

[1:13:36] Oh.

[1:13:37] And I could only imagine,

[1:13:39] like,

[1:13:39] that would automatically

[1:13:41] change,

[1:13:42] like,

[1:13:43] Channing Tatum's,

[1:13:44] you know,

[1:13:44] like,

[1:13:44] goofy charm

[1:13:45] to, like,

[1:13:46] this wisecracking

[1:13:47] asshole character

[1:13:48] and make a movie

[1:13:50] that I would definitely

[1:13:50] not be interested in seeing.

[1:13:52] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:13:53] Yeah,

[1:13:53] this is a movie

[1:13:54] that it kind of,

[1:13:56] it's not,

[1:13:56] I didn't like it.

[1:13:57] It's not a movie

[1:13:58] that reaches kind of,

[1:13:59] like,

[1:13:59] completely bad,

[1:14:00] bad status for me

[1:14:01] because it's such,

[1:14:02] it's like just such,

[1:14:03] maybe it does.

[1:14:04] It's candy.

[1:14:05] It's slick,

[1:14:05] disposable candy.

[1:14:07] It never,

[1:14:08] it's never really

[1:14:09] trying that hard

[1:14:10] to be more than it is,

[1:14:11] which in some movies

[1:14:12] is a strength.

[1:14:13] But in this,

[1:14:14] it just kind of feels

[1:14:14] like a movie

[1:14:15] that's on autopilot.

[1:14:16] No pun intended

[1:14:17] because he's a pilot.

[1:14:19] No,

[1:14:20] I think pun

[1:14:20] is definitely intended.

[1:14:22] But the,

[1:14:22] the sheer volume

[1:14:24] of quips

[1:14:25] just is so,

[1:14:27] yeah,

[1:14:27] thank you,

[1:14:27] yeah,

[1:14:27] the sheer,

[1:14:28] I did intend it.

[1:14:29] The sheer volume

[1:14:29] of quips

[1:14:30] is so deafening

[1:14:32] and so stultifying.

[1:14:33] And I guess

[1:14:34] what I was talking

[1:14:34] about earlier

[1:14:35] when watching this movie

[1:14:36] made me think,

[1:14:36] around the time

[1:14:37] he's walking

[1:14:37] through the woods

[1:14:38] with a flashlight,

[1:14:39] it made me think

[1:14:39] about E.T.,

[1:14:40] he does that.

[1:14:41] He walks into his

[1:14:42] backyard,

[1:14:42] which is a cornfield

[1:14:43] inexplicably,

[1:14:44] with a flashlight

[1:14:45] or a weed field

[1:14:46] or something.

[1:14:47] And why do I like

[1:14:48] that movie so much more?

[1:14:49] that movie takes

[1:14:50] its time in certain ways.

[1:14:52] It has a sense

[1:14:52] of life to it.

[1:14:53] You see the characters

[1:14:54] interact in ways

[1:14:55] that feel like real people

[1:14:56] that don't necessarily

[1:14:57] have to have a plot.

[1:14:58] Like,

[1:14:58] when you see

[1:14:59] Elliot's older brothers

[1:15:00] playing Dungeons & Dragons,

[1:15:03] it's not like,

[1:15:03] oh,

[1:15:04] these are the skills

[1:15:04] that are going to help them out

[1:15:05] with the bad guys

[1:15:06] later on.

[1:15:07] Like, it's just a thing

[1:15:08] kids do.

[1:15:08] When you see

[1:15:09] young Adam

[1:15:10] playing video games,

[1:15:11] you kind of know

[1:15:12] because it's that kind of movie

[1:15:13] that he's going to use

[1:15:13] those skills later on

[1:15:15] to pilot a drone

[1:15:16] that murders people.

[1:15:17] And it's just,

[1:15:18] it's a movie that like

[1:15:19] is so on autopilot

[1:15:20] that when it's dropping

[1:15:21] plot exposition,

[1:15:23] it's just kind of,

[1:15:24] oh yeah,

[1:15:24] what did we forget to mention?

[1:15:25] There's a bad guy.

[1:15:26] Anyway,

[1:15:26] there's a bad guy.

[1:15:27] Anyway,

[1:15:27] moving along,

[1:15:27] da-da-da-da-da.

[1:15:28] And so it's,

[1:15:29] when it does reach

[1:15:30] for an emotional height,

[1:15:31] it almost feels

[1:15:32] a little insulting.

[1:15:33] And by the end of the movie,

[1:15:34] it's being so kind of

[1:15:35] slapdash and goofy

[1:15:37] in a sloppy way

[1:15:40] that it's almost like

[1:15:41] the movie is like,

[1:15:42] you'll watch any crap.

[1:15:43] Just let's shove it down.

[1:15:44] You're like,

[1:15:45] you're watching it.

[1:15:45] Enjoy your slop,

[1:15:46] piggies.

[1:15:47] Exactly, yes.

[1:15:48] And I'm sure the people

[1:15:49] making it

[1:15:49] were trying really hard.

[1:15:51] I'm sure the performers

[1:15:52] were trying hard.

[1:15:52] Whoever,

[1:15:53] the writers,

[1:15:53] I'm sure,

[1:15:54] were just trying to

[1:15:54] get maximum jokes

[1:15:56] and maximum fun into it.

[1:15:57] But it all comes together

[1:15:59] as this,

[1:15:59] yeah,

[1:15:59] it's kind of like

[1:16:00] a generic slop stew

[1:16:01] that they're just

[1:16:02] kind of like,

[1:16:03] That's what they call them.

Dan McCoy

[1:16:04] Generic slops too.

Elliott Kalan

[1:16:08] It's like it comes

[1:16:09] in a can from Repo Man

[1:16:11] that just says movie on it

[1:16:12] and you just open it up

[1:16:13] and pour it

[1:16:13] in a big chunk

[1:16:14] onto a bowl.

[1:16:15] So I am going to say

[1:16:16] bad, bad.

[1:16:16] You know what?

[1:16:17] I am going to say

[1:16:17] bad, bad.

[1:16:18] But you know what's

[1:16:18] not bad, bad, guys?

[1:16:21] The feeling of being

[1:16:23] part of the maximum fun family.

[1:16:24] Hey,

[1:16:24] let's talk about

[1:16:25] the maximum fun drive

[1:16:26] for one more time.

[1:16:26] How about that?

[1:16:27] So the thing I love most

[1:16:29] about doing the flop house

[1:16:30] other than being able

[1:16:31] to consistently

[1:16:32] pay my mortgage,

[1:16:33] and keep a roof

[1:16:33] over my head

[1:16:34] every month

[1:16:35] is that it gives me

[1:16:36] a reason every week

[1:16:37] to see my best friends

[1:16:38] and to talk to them

[1:16:39] about stuff like

[1:16:39] The Adam Project.

[1:16:41] Every week I get

[1:16:41] to see my best friends

[1:16:42] because we're recording

[1:16:43] this podcast

[1:16:43] and that means so much

[1:16:44] to me.

[1:16:44] And the thing that I'm

[1:16:45] most proud of

[1:16:46] about the flop house

[1:16:47] is the community

[1:16:48] that's built up around it.

[1:16:49] There are people

[1:16:49] who have become friends

[1:16:50] through the podcast.

[1:16:51] There have been romances

[1:16:52] that blossomed

[1:16:53] because of the podcast

[1:16:53] and it's inspiring to me

[1:16:55] that in this time

[1:16:56] of strife and division

[1:16:57] something as

[1:16:58] objectively stupid

[1:16:59] as this podcast

[1:17:00] where we did a lot

[1:17:01] of jokes about

[1:17:02] gushers being filled

[1:17:02] with pee

[1:17:03] and bears pooping

[1:17:03] on tommy knockers

[1:17:04] can bring people

[1:17:05] together in a

[1:17:06] community-minded way.

Dan McCoy

[1:17:08] I just want to break in.

[1:17:08] I know that there was a baby

[1:17:12] that was adopted

[1:17:12] through a connection

[1:17:13] made through the podcast

[1:17:15] and I find that

[1:17:15] very touching.

[1:17:16] I've seen pictures

[1:17:17] of this adorable

[1:17:17] little kid

[1:17:18] and yeah,

[1:17:20] it's so nice to know

[1:17:21] that there are people

[1:17:21] out there who,

[1:17:22] I don't know,

[1:17:23] just because we

[1:17:24] made fun of some movies

[1:17:27] have had their lives

[1:17:29] improved in some

[1:17:30] measurable way.

[1:17:32] It makes me feel,

[1:17:33] I don't,

[1:17:34] it's,

[1:17:34] you know,

[1:17:35] it's,

[1:17:36] it's,

[1:17:37] it's having,

[1:17:37] it's a wonderful life

[1:17:39] in real,

[1:17:40] in real life,

[1:17:41] you know,

[1:17:41] to feel like,

[1:17:42] hey,

[1:17:43] you know,

[1:17:44] this dumb thing

[1:17:44] has mattered

[1:17:45] in some way.

[1:17:46] The good part

[1:17:46] of It's a Wonderful Life,

[1:17:47] not the bad part

[1:17:48] where he's like,

[1:17:49] not the part

[1:17:49] where we're in Pottersville

[1:17:50] and,

[1:17:50] you know,

[1:17:51] although Pottersville

[1:17:52] looks like fun to visit,

[1:17:54] you know?

Elliott Kalan

[1:17:54] There's an,

[1:17:54] there's an article

[1:17:55] that I think was

[1:17:56] in New Yorker years ago

[1:17:56] about how Pottersville

[1:17:57] is the,

[1:17:58] is the fun place

[1:17:59] and Pottersville

[1:17:59] is actually better

[1:18:00] than Bedford Falls.

[1:18:01] But anyway,

[1:18:02] I want to say

[1:18:02] the community

[1:18:03] that's,

[1:18:04] that's built up

[1:18:05] around this,

[1:18:05] around this podcast,

[1:18:07] much like a town

[1:18:07] that,

[1:18:08] that builds up

[1:18:09] around a shrine

[1:18:09] to a miracle

[1:18:10] that never really happened

[1:18:11] is something

[1:18:12] that really touches me

[1:18:12] and I think about it a lot

[1:18:13] and I'm very,

[1:18:14] very proud

[1:18:15] and grateful for it.

[1:18:16] And we've received

[1:18:16] a number of private messages

[1:18:17] over the years

[1:18:18] from people

[1:18:18] who have found solace

[1:18:19] or hope

[1:18:20] from the Flophouse.

[1:18:21] At times,

[1:18:21] they really needed it.

[1:18:22] I think the podcast

[1:18:22] has functioned

[1:18:23] for each of us

[1:18:24] in that same way.

[1:18:25] It's kind of given us

[1:18:25] solace at times

[1:18:26] and helped keep us going.

[1:18:29] There was a story

[1:18:29] that I won't get into too much

[1:18:30] because it was a very

[1:18:31] private story

[1:18:31] about someone who

[1:18:32] at a very,

[1:18:33] very,

[1:18:33] very difficult time

[1:18:35] in their life

[1:18:35] found themselves

[1:18:37] kind of

[1:18:38] sparked to go on

[1:18:40] by a letters song

[1:18:41] that I did

[1:18:41] which is an awesome power

[1:18:43] that I do not type lightly

[1:18:44] but I will abuse

[1:18:45] as much as possible.

[1:18:47] And so Maximum Fun...

[1:18:48] You can keep singing,

[1:18:49] Elliot.

[1:18:50] I'm gonna,

[1:18:50] Dan,

[1:18:51] it's a responsibility

[1:18:51] that I have to do.

[1:18:52] Look,

[1:18:52] I'm like Spider-Man.

[1:18:53] If there's someone out there

[1:18:55] that can be helped

[1:18:55] by a letters song,

[1:18:56] I have to do it.

[1:18:57] So Maximum Fun,

[1:18:58] they helped us get some comments

[1:18:59] from listeners

[1:18:59] about what the show

[1:19:00] meant to them

[1:19:00] and I wanted to read one.

[1:19:02] We might read some other ones,

[1:19:03] another Pledge Drive ones.

[1:19:05] This is from Claire,

[1:19:06] last name withheld,

[1:19:07] and she wrote to us

[1:19:08] about dealing with

[1:19:08] chronic illness

[1:19:09] and how it left her

[1:19:10] stuck in kind of

[1:19:11] hospital rooms

[1:19:12] or at home

[1:19:12] far more often

[1:19:13] than she'd like to be,

[1:19:14] obviously.

[1:19:14] And she said,

[1:19:15] lucky for me,

[1:19:16] you don't really have

[1:19:16] to exert yourself much

[1:19:17] at all to listen

[1:19:18] to you three

[1:19:18] eminently cultured gentlemen

[1:19:19] talk about bad movies

[1:19:20] like Ouija

[1:19:21] for literally longer

[1:19:22] than the movie's runtime.

[1:19:23] Parentheses,

[1:19:24] shout out to the best of us,

[1:19:25] Hallie Haglund.

[1:19:26] I spend so much of my time

[1:19:27] stuck someplace

[1:19:29] and usually alone,

[1:19:30] but your podcast

[1:19:30] has brought me

[1:19:31] the company of friends

[1:19:31] to pass the time

[1:19:32] and stories to help me

[1:19:33] escape my,

[1:19:34] shall we say,

[1:19:34] inconvenient circumstances,

[1:19:36] which can sometimes

[1:19:37] weigh on me heavily.

[1:19:38] Movies are my lifeblood

[1:19:39] and I love sharing

[1:19:40] the bad movie-loving experience

[1:19:41] with you in my own little way.

[1:19:42] Thank you all

[1:19:43] for continuing this journey

[1:19:44] into just the worst

[1:19:45] cinematic forays

[1:19:46] of all time

[1:19:46] for all these years.

[1:19:47] I truly am grateful

[1:19:48] for what you have given me.

[1:19:49] And we're so grateful

[1:19:50] to hear things like that

[1:19:51] from fans.

[1:19:52] It really means a lot.

[1:19:53] She then went on

[1:19:53] to say that

[1:19:54] she went to one

[1:19:55] of our live shows once

[1:19:55] and was hoping

[1:19:56] to get our autographs,

[1:19:57] but we left too early.

[1:19:58] So I'm really sorry about that.

[1:20:00] And Claire,

[1:20:00] if you're going to go

[1:20:01] to another one

[1:20:02] of our live shows someday,

[1:20:03] DM me.

[1:20:03] I will make sure

[1:20:04] to stick around

[1:20:04] and say hello afterwards.

[1:20:06] I feel so bad about that.

[1:20:07] But it means so much

[1:20:08] to us to get letters

[1:20:09] like that from our fans.

[1:20:10] It's really exciting

[1:20:11] to know

[1:20:12] that we've connected

[1:20:13] with people

[1:20:13] and people we otherwise

[1:20:15] never would have met.

[1:20:15] To me,

[1:20:16] that's the magic

[1:20:16] of being an artist

[1:20:17] of any kind

[1:20:18] is when your work

[1:20:19] connects with somebody

[1:20:20] who otherwise

[1:20:21] would not be a part

[1:20:21] of your life

[1:20:22] and whose life

[1:20:22] you otherwise

[1:20:23] wouldn't be a part of.

[1:20:24] And podcasting

[1:20:25] is especially special

[1:20:25] because it's such

[1:20:26] an intimate medium

[1:20:27] that even though

[1:20:28] I'm talking to Dan and Stuart,

[1:20:29] I'm also talking to you.

[1:20:30] And even though

[1:20:31] you can talk to me,

[1:20:32] I won't hear you

[1:20:33] because I'm already recorded.

[1:20:35] But in a way,

[1:20:35] I will hear you

[1:20:36] if you reach out to us.

[1:20:37] But you can build

Stuart Wellington

[1:20:37] an Elliot doll

Elliott Kalan

[1:20:38] and talk to it.

[1:20:40] Yeah,

[1:20:40] Richard Dreyfuss it.

[1:20:42] Make an Elliot

[1:20:42] out of mashed potatoes

[1:20:43] and talk to it

[1:20:44] and go on a journey

[1:20:45] to meet me,

[1:20:46] which would be weird.

[1:20:47] Don't do that.

[1:20:49] And so now that I've

[1:20:49] had so many

[1:20:51] of these experiences

[1:20:51] where people have

[1:20:53] reached out to me

[1:20:53] and just talked about

[1:20:54] how much the podcast

[1:20:56] meant to them

[1:20:56] and it's really lovely.

[1:20:57] And so now that I've

[1:20:58] plucked your heartstrings,

[1:20:59] it's time to pluck

[1:20:59] those wallet strings again

[1:21:01] and say,

[1:21:02] hey,

[1:21:02] when you go to

[1:21:03] maximumfund.org

[1:21:04] slash join,

[1:21:05] what do you get

[1:21:05] for your membership?

[1:21:06] Well,

[1:21:06] I'll just talk very briefly

[1:21:07] about it

[1:21:08] because I don't think

[1:21:08] you're interested in this

[1:21:09] because of the stuff you get.

[1:21:11] I think you're interested in it

[1:21:12] in the stuff you can give,

[1:21:13] which is namely

[1:21:13] money to us

[1:21:15] in exchange for podcasts.

[1:21:17] So,

Elliott Kalan

[1:21:17] you know,

[1:21:18] the bonus content you get

[1:21:20] starting at $5 a month,

[1:21:21] you get all those many hours

[1:21:22] of bonus content.

[1:21:23] And again,

[1:21:23] if we reach our new

[1:21:24] membership goals,

[1:21:24] you're going to get

[1:21:25] even more.

[1:21:26] The floodgates will open

[1:21:27] of content.

[1:21:28] At $10 a month,

[1:21:29] you get your choice

[1:21:30] of Maximum Fun

[1:21:31] podcast patches.

[1:21:33] This year,

[1:21:33] we're giving out patches

[1:21:34] for all the shows

[1:21:34] and the Flophouse patch

[1:21:36] is really nice.

[1:21:36] It's the house cat himself

[1:21:37] bursting through the patch

[1:21:39] with his baseball cap

[1:21:40] backwards on his head.

[1:21:41] He's got a big old smile

[1:21:41] on his face.

[1:21:42] I love it.

[1:21:43] It's my favorite of the patches.

[1:21:44] I'm a little partial though.

[1:21:46] But there's other gifts.

[1:21:47] At $20 a month,

[1:21:48] there's the Maximum Fun

[1:21:50] Rocket Hat

[1:21:50] or the Maximum Fun

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[1:21:54] At $35 a month,

[1:21:55] there's a Maximum Fun

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[1:21:58] And another way

[1:21:58] to get involved

[1:21:59] in that Flophouse

[1:22:00] Maximum Fun community

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[1:22:02] you get HQ Access,

[1:22:04] which gives you

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[1:22:06] with Maximum Fun hosts

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[1:22:11] which will be at

[1:22:11] Maximum Fun HQ forever.

[1:22:13] That's right.

[1:22:14] If you've walked past a wall

[1:22:15] in a synagogue

[1:22:16] or national park

[1:22:18] and seen a name

[1:22:19] engraved on a plaque

[1:22:20] and said,

[1:22:20] I want that,

[1:22:21] well, now you can

[1:22:21] for $100 a month

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[1:22:24] So we're just going to say,

[1:22:25] will you please

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[1:22:27] If you haven't joined us yet,

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[1:22:37] a member

[1:22:38] and you just want

[1:22:39] to keep it going,

[1:22:40] we thank you for that too.

[1:22:41] We really appreciate it.

[1:22:42] We want new people

[1:22:43] to come in.

[1:22:43] We want people

[1:22:43] to upgrade their membership,

[1:22:44] but don't think

[1:22:45] we're giving a cold shoulder

[1:22:46] to those old standbys

[1:22:47] who have been with us

[1:22:48] all this time.

[1:22:48] Thank you for being a friend

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[1:22:50] and back again.

[1:22:51] So that's Maximum Fun.

[1:22:51] You're literally

Dan McCoy

[1:22:52] putting food in my mouth.

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:54] Yep.

[1:22:54] Right now with your hands.

[1:22:56] Yep.

[1:22:57] Yum.

[1:22:58] And for $200 a month,

[1:22:59] you get to go to Dan's house

[1:23:00] and put food in his mouth.

[1:23:01] Anyway,

[1:23:02] get in touch with him

[1:23:02] personally about that.

[1:23:04] So that's

[1:23:04] maximumfun.org

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[1:23:12] and dumbness

[1:23:14] that has brought

[1:23:15] so many people together

[1:23:16] and into our lives.

Dan McCoy

[1:23:19] Yeah.

[1:23:20] Yeah.

[1:23:20] And so we do have

[1:23:22] a couple of sponsors.

[1:23:23] Normally during MaxFun Drive,

[1:23:24] we don't have sponsors.

[1:23:25] This is kind of an odd situation.

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[1:23:29] So...

[1:23:29] It's a loophole.

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Stuart Wellington

[1:23:34] But I'd like to talk to you

Dan McCoy

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[1:24:08] Danmccoyride or die.com?

[1:24:10] Well, that also exists now.

[1:24:12] Thank you to whoever bought that

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Stuart Wellington

[1:25:16] Hey guys,

[1:25:16] it's me,

[1:25:17] Stuart Wellington.

[1:25:18] And you might not know,

[1:25:19] but in addition

[1:25:20] to being a himbo podcaster,

[1:25:22] I also own a couple of bars.

[1:25:24] And owning a bar,

[1:25:26] a small business,

[1:25:27] but specifically

[1:25:28] a nightlife business

[1:25:29] at this now

[1:25:30] and forever

[1:25:31] is a stressful job.

[1:25:34] There's your normal stress

[1:25:36] of day-to-day ordering

[1:25:37] and staffing,

[1:25:39] et cetera, et cetera.

[1:25:40] And then you have your,

[1:25:41] let's say,

[1:25:42] abnormal stress

[1:25:43] when a bartender

[1:25:43] calls you at 1130 at night

[1:25:45] because there's a person

[1:25:45] in the bar

[1:25:46] who is being very threatening

[1:25:47] and was refusing to leave.

[1:25:49] And so you have to go down

[1:25:51] and then ask that person to leave

[1:25:52] and he's very threatening

[1:25:53] and he calls you a bitch.

[1:25:55] But you have to watch him,

[1:25:56] make sure he gets on a bus,

[1:25:58] et cetera, et cetera.

[1:25:59] That sort of thing.

[1:26:00] And so-

[1:26:01] For example.

[1:26:02] For example.

[1:26:03] Just to get,

[1:26:03] pulling something out of the air.

[1:26:05] But because of that,

[1:26:06] my life has a fair amount of stress

[1:26:07] and one of the things

[1:26:08] that's been helping me

[1:26:09] is therapy.

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Elliott Kalan

[1:27:02] Max Fun Drive 2022

[1:27:04] starts in just one week.

Dan McCoy

[1:27:06] Monday,

[1:27:07] April 25th.

Elliott Kalan

[1:27:08] We'll have exclusive

[1:27:09] Max Fun Drive gifts,

[1:27:11] awesome episodes,

[1:27:12] bonus content,

[1:27:13] and

[1:27:14] you know what else?

[1:27:15] You'll just have to tune in.

[1:27:17] We have some tricks

[1:27:18] up our sleeve.

S5

[1:27:20] Sleeves?

[1:27:21] Tricks?

[1:27:22] Is it plural?

Elliott Kalan

[1:27:23] We'll catch you next week,

[1:27:25] the greatest time

[1:27:26] to support the podcasts

[1:27:27] you love.

[1:27:28] Max Fun Drive

[1:27:29] starts on Monday,

[1:27:30] April 25th.

[1:27:31] Don't miss it.

S4

[1:27:37] If you're sick

[1:27:38] of constantly arguing

[1:27:39] with the people

[1:27:40] closest to you

[1:27:40] about topics

[1:27:41] that really aren't

[1:27:42] going to change

[1:27:43] the world,

[1:27:43] we're here

[1:27:44] to take that stress

[1:27:45] off of your shoulders.

[1:27:46] We take care of it

[1:27:47] for you on

[1:27:48] We Got This

[1:27:48] with Mark and Hal.

[1:27:49] That's right, Hal.

[1:27:51] If you have

[1:27:52] a subjective question

[1:27:53] that you want

[1:27:54] answered objectively

[1:27:55] once and for all time

[1:27:58] for all of the people

[1:27:59] of the world,

[1:28:00] questions like

[1:28:01] who's the best

[1:28:01] Disney villain,

[1:28:02] Mac or PC?

[1:28:03] Or should you put

[1:28:04] ketchup on a hot dog?

[1:28:06] That's why we're here.

[1:28:06] Yes, I get that

[1:28:07] these are the biggest

[1:28:08] questions of our time

[1:28:09] and we're often joined

[1:28:10] by special guests

[1:28:11] like Nathan Fillion,

[1:28:12] Orlando Jones,

[1:28:13] and Padgett Brewster.

[1:28:15] So let Mark and Hal

[1:28:16] take care of it for you

[1:28:17] on We Got This

[1:28:18] with Mark and Hal

[1:28:18] weekly on Maximum Fun.

[1:28:21] Let us move on

Dan McCoy

[1:28:23] to letters

[1:28:24] from listeners.

[1:28:27] Listeners like you

[1:28:28] write in

[1:28:29] and we answer it.

[1:28:31] That's the premise.

[1:28:32] Anyway,

[1:28:33] this is from

[1:28:34] Damien and Danny,

[1:28:35] last name withheld.

[1:28:38] Damien and Danny.

Elliott Kalan

[1:28:39] I love that Dan

[1:28:39] is describing something

[1:28:40] that has been going on

[1:28:41] for hundreds of years

[1:28:43] that people write letters

[1:28:44] to each other

[1:28:44] and then they get read.

[1:28:45] as if it's like,

[1:28:47] okay,

[1:28:47] are you going to buy this?

[1:28:48] Do you get this?

[1:28:50] Are you with me?

Stuart Wellington

[1:28:52] Do I need to slow down

[1:28:53] a little bit?

Dan McCoy

[1:28:53] This question is for Stu.

Stuart Wellington

[1:28:57] Wait, that's me?

[1:28:58] Oh shit, okay.

[1:28:59] You ready?

[1:28:59] Let me put my phone down,

[1:29:01] okay?

[1:29:01] Just close all my apps.

[1:29:03] Okay,

[1:29:04] let's,

Dan McCoy

[1:29:04] guess let's do this.

[1:29:06] My son,

[1:29:08] parentheses.

[1:29:08] Should I be wearing shoes?

[1:29:11] You are barefoot

[1:29:12] that I didn't notice.

[1:29:13] My son,

[1:29:14] parentheses 12,

[1:29:15] and I,

[1:29:16] parentheses old,

[1:29:17] are big fans

[1:29:18] of the podcast.

[1:29:19] We are just beginning.

[1:29:20] Are those their names?

[1:29:21] Yeah.

[1:29:22] It's Damien and Danny.

[1:29:24] Oh, right, right, right.

[1:29:25] They're big fans

[1:29:26] of the podcast.

[1:29:27] We are just beginning

[1:29:28] our Warhammer 40k journey.

[1:29:30] Hell yeah.

[1:29:31] And loved your Warhammer mini.

[1:29:34] We wondered,

[1:29:35] what is your main army?

[1:29:36] What model paint job

[1:29:38] is your favorite?

[1:29:39] And do you have any advice

[1:29:40] for a new Blood Angels,

[1:29:42] parentheses my son,

[1:29:43] and new Chaos Marines,

[1:29:44] parentheses me,

[1:29:45] army?

[1:29:46] Oh, wow.

[1:29:47] There's,

Stuart Wellington

[1:29:47] that's,

[1:29:48] there's multiple questions.

[1:29:50] You don't have to show it to me.

[1:29:51] I know all about Blood Angels

[1:29:52] and Chaos Space Marines.

[1:29:53] Forgot the questions.

[1:29:54] You got goodies and patties.

[1:29:56] Well, I am a long time player

[1:29:59] of Space Orcs.

[1:30:01] I used to have a huge army

[1:30:02] of Space Orcs.

[1:30:04] They are a,

[1:30:04] Sporks.

[1:30:05] They are similar to Sporks.

[1:30:06] They are a alien race

[1:30:09] of fungus monsters

[1:30:10] that fly around

[1:30:13] in massive,

[1:30:15] cobbled together spaceships

[1:30:17] and they drive around

[1:30:18] and cobble together

[1:30:18] dune buggies

[1:30:19] and they blast space marines

[1:30:20] and they like to fight.

[1:30:21] They're great.

[1:30:22] I even have a Space Orc tattoo.

[1:30:25] And,

[1:30:26] but,

[1:30:26] I gave that army away

[1:30:27] some time ago

[1:30:28] and I recently started

[1:30:29] a new army

[1:30:30] of gene stealer cultists.

[1:30:33] Now,

[1:30:33] before you answer,

[1:30:34] Elliot,

[1:30:34] no,

[1:30:35] they do not take

[1:30:35] people's denim.

[1:30:36] They steal your genes

[1:30:38] that make up your DNA.

[1:30:40] They are human-alien hybrids

[1:30:43] that worship alien masters

[1:30:45] and wish for their alien masters

[1:30:46] to arrive from the stars

[1:30:48] to liberate them

[1:30:49] from the evil oppressors

[1:30:51] of humanity

[1:30:51] only to find out

[1:30:53] that when those aliens

[1:30:54] do arrive,

[1:30:54] they just devour

[1:30:55] the entire planet

[1:30:56] whole hog,

[1:30:57] including their cultists.

[1:30:58] So,

[1:30:58] it's great.

[1:30:59] It's hilarious.

[1:31:00] They're great.

[1:31:01] They used to ride

[1:31:01] around limousines.

[1:31:02] They're all bald

[1:31:03] and weirdos.

[1:31:04] They're awesome.

[1:31:06] And I've been painting them

[1:31:07] and I think my favorite

[1:31:08] in that batch so far

[1:31:09] is I painted my Keller Morph,

[1:31:11] which is like

[1:31:12] a little gunslinger.

[1:31:13] He's like a little

[1:31:13] revolutionary gunslinger.

[1:31:15] He's got three arms

[1:31:15] and that's a lot of guns.

[1:31:17] That's 18 guns.

[1:31:19] You know,

[1:31:20] like,

[1:31:20] because there's six guns

[1:31:21] but there's three of them.

[1:31:22] So,

[1:31:22] I like that a lot

[1:31:24] and for,

[1:31:24] let's see,

[1:31:24] Blood Angels.

Stuart Wellington

[1:31:24] You know a six gun

[1:31:25] is not six guns.

[1:31:27] What?

[1:31:29] Never mind.

[1:31:30] Forget it.

[1:31:30] Never mind.

[1:31:30] It's not important.

[1:31:31] I didn't know

[1:31:31] this was a math podcast.

[1:31:34] So,

[1:31:34] let's see,

[1:31:35] for Blood Angels,

[1:31:35] so the Blood Angels

[1:31:36] are Space Marines.

[1:31:38] Of course,

[1:31:38] they are the children

[1:31:39] of Sanguinius,

[1:31:41] the Emperor's most beautiful

[1:31:43] and greatest of all

[1:31:43] is Primarchs,

[1:31:44] laid low by the

[1:31:46] arch-heretic Horus.

[1:31:48] But the Blood Angels

[1:31:49] suffer with a curse

[1:31:50] where they momentarily

[1:31:51] are caught up

[1:31:54] in the rapture

[1:31:54] of Sanguinius'

[1:31:56] dying moments

[1:31:56] and that gives them

[1:31:57] a blood rage,

[1:31:58] basically turning them

[1:31:59] into Space Marine vampires

[1:32:00] and they,

[1:32:02] I don't know,

[1:32:02] so a lot of

[1:32:03] close combat troops,

[1:32:04] I think,

[1:32:04] because,

[1:32:05] you know,

[1:32:05] so they can take advantage

[1:32:06] of all their little bonuses

[1:32:07] for being vampire men

[1:32:08] and then for Chaos Space Marines.

[1:32:10] Is this what it's like

[1:32:10] when I sing a song,

[1:32:11] Dan?

[1:32:12] Is this what it feels like?

[1:32:13] Well,

[1:32:14] similarly,

[1:32:15] I'm checking my mail.

[1:32:19] And then for Chaos Space Marines,

[1:32:20] I mean,

[1:32:20] I don't know,

[1:32:21] just get a lot of dudes

[1:32:22] with spikes, man.

[1:32:23] I love the weird,

[1:32:25] like,

[1:32:26] the,

[1:32:26] like,

[1:32:26] I don't even know,

[1:32:27] the ones that look like

[1:32:28] Spider Walker things

[1:32:29] with all kinds of gun pods

[1:32:30] on them.

[1:32:31] Those things are awesome.

[1:32:32] Check those out.

[1:32:33] I don't know.

[1:32:34] I'd go with all the weird

[1:32:36] Chaos Space Marine stuff.

[1:32:36] Okay,

[1:32:37] that's it.

[1:32:37] I answered.

Dan McCoy

[1:32:39] Okay.

[1:32:41] This second question

[1:32:42] is not about Warhammer,

[1:32:43] so you can relax, Elliot.

[1:32:45] Okay.

[1:32:46] I can take my shoes off again.

[1:32:48] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:32:49] This question,

[1:32:52] this is from Caroline,

[1:32:54] last name withheld,

[1:32:55] who writes,

[1:32:56] just in time.

Stuart Wellington

[1:32:57] Caroline N.T. City.

Dan McCoy

[1:32:59] Just in time

[1:33:00] for the third

[1:33:00] annual

[1:33:02] Flophouse Catstacular

[1:33:03] Catstravaganza.

[1:33:05] Again,

[1:33:06] if you want that

[1:33:07] Cat's commentary,

[1:33:09] be a member of MaxFun.

[1:33:11] I wanted to ask

[1:33:12] movie musical questions.

[1:33:15] Number one,

[1:33:17] what are your favorite

[1:33:17] movie musicals,

[1:33:18] both classic and modern?

[1:33:20] And number two,

[1:33:21] given the timing

[1:33:22] of its release,

[1:33:23] do you think

[1:33:23] Cat's is actually

[1:33:24] one of the four

[1:33:25] horsemen of the apocalypse?

[1:33:26] Happy Holidays

[1:33:27] and Finger Squash

[1:33:28] for 2022.

[1:33:29] I mean,

[1:33:29] four catsmen of the apocalypse.

[1:33:31] Four horse cats.

[1:33:32] I have honestly

[1:33:33] had the thought,

[1:33:34] like,

[1:33:35] did I experience

[1:33:36] too much joy

[1:33:37] watching Cat's?

[1:33:38] Are you to blame?

[1:33:39] Are you to blame?

Dan McCoy

[1:33:39] That's what did it.

[1:33:41] The world

[1:33:42] just spun off its axis.

[1:33:46] You know,

[1:33:47] I really...

[1:33:49] Dan,

[1:33:49] let me reassure you.

[1:33:50] Yes.

[1:33:51] That is exactly

[1:33:52] what happened.

Stuart Wellington

[1:33:52] We live in a

[1:33:53] Dan-centric universe

[1:33:54] and you're to blame.

[1:33:56] Okay.

[1:33:56] Well,

Elliott Kalan

[1:33:56] that is what caused

[1:33:57] Armageddon,

Stuart Wellington

[1:33:58] which was the end

[1:33:59] of the world

[1:33:59] caused by Dan.

Dan McCoy

[1:34:01] distressing and comforting.

[1:34:03] So,

Stuart Wellington

[1:34:03] there's that hit

[1:34:04] Aerosmith song

[1:34:06] in Armageddon.

[1:34:08] Yeah.

[1:34:08] I don't want to miss it, Dan.

Dan McCoy

[1:34:10] Yeah.

[1:34:13] I'm a big fan

[1:34:15] of

[1:34:15] The Music Man

[1:34:17] mostly because

[1:34:19] Robert Preston

[1:34:20] is so charismatic

[1:34:21] and funny.

[1:34:21] Because you're a music Dan.

[1:34:22] In that.

[1:34:23] And the music's

[1:34:24] good.

[1:34:25] I saw

[1:34:26] the Broadway revival

[1:34:28] just recently.

[1:34:30] Hot takes

[1:34:31] fresh off the

[1:34:32] fucking bakery.

[1:34:32] Yeah,

[1:34:33] let's hear it.

[1:34:33] Let's hear it.

[1:34:34] Tear him up.

[1:34:35] It was fun to have

[1:34:35] Natalie for the commentary

[1:34:37] because she'll be glad

[1:34:39] to talk Broadway with you.

[1:34:40] But,

[1:34:40] yeah,

[1:34:42] like,

[1:34:43] Hugh Jackman,

[1:34:44] you know,

[1:34:44] I love the Hugh Jackman,

[1:34:46] but he didn't really

[1:34:47] bring the charisma

[1:34:49] needed,

[1:34:49] which it's odd.

[1:34:50] It seems like

[1:34:51] it would be perfect

[1:34:51] for him.

[1:34:52] Do not say a fucking word

Elliott Kalan

[1:34:53] against Sutton Foster.

[1:34:54] Sutton Foster,

[1:34:55] however,

Dan McCoy

[1:34:55] A plus.

Stuart Wellington

[1:34:57] Sutton Foster's amazing.

[1:34:58] Yeah,

[1:34:59] she's great.

[1:34:59] So good.

[1:35:00] Hugh Jackman was not

[1:35:01] Robert Preston.

[1:35:01] Star of Younger Sutton Foster

[1:35:02] was amazing.

[1:35:03] Tell me something

[1:35:04] I don't know.

Dan McCoy

[1:35:05] But if you want to,

[1:35:07] just go to the movie.

[1:35:10] It'll also help you

[1:35:11] excuse some of the

[1:35:12] elements of Music Man

[1:35:13] that haven't aged as well,

[1:35:15] knowing the time

[1:35:17] that it was made

[1:35:18] rather than watching

[1:35:18] a modern revival.

[1:35:21] You know,

[1:35:22] I'm pretty boring.

[1:35:23] I love the movie

[1:35:25] of Little Shop of Horrors.

[1:35:26] I think that that is

[1:35:27] pretty perfect.

[1:35:30] Well,

[1:35:31] I'm not surprising anyone

[1:35:33] with any of this

[1:35:34] is what I'm saying.

[1:35:35] But what do you...

[1:35:36] Well,

[1:35:36] there might be somebody

[1:35:37] who is not taking the plunge

[1:35:39] and watched Little Shop of Horrors.

[1:35:40] Do you have a hotter take?

Elliott Kalan

[1:35:42] I don't have a hotter take at all.

[1:35:43] I mean,

[1:35:44] classic musicals

[1:35:45] got a real...

[1:35:46] It's a real

[1:35:46] Murderer's Row of the Best,

[1:35:48] Singing in the Rain,

[1:35:49] amazing.

[1:35:50] Wizard of Oz,

[1:35:51] amazing.

[1:35:51] Top Hat,

[1:35:52] amazing.

[1:35:53] And then you've got...

[1:35:54] I'm a big fan

[1:35:54] of the Busby Berkeley musicals,

[1:35:56] not always because of the stories,

[1:35:58] but because the musical numbers

[1:35:59] are so fantastic.

[1:36:00] But two movies

[1:36:01] that I genuinely...

[1:36:02] I like the movie a lot.

[1:36:04] I'll just say I love them.

[1:36:05] I do.

[1:36:06] And the Busby Berkeley numbers

[1:36:07] are Gold Diggers of 1933,

[1:36:09] which is astounding.

[1:36:10] And it has some of his greatest work.

[1:36:12] And it has...

[1:36:12] Otherwise,

[1:36:13] it's like the whole movie

[1:36:15] is kind of like

[1:36:15] Sex and the City 1933,

[1:36:17] but with musical numbers.

[1:36:18] And the movie Dames,

[1:36:19] which is a less well-known movie

[1:36:22] with Busby Berkeley numbers on it,

[1:36:23] but it's also a really funny movie.

[1:36:25] And modern musicals,

[1:36:26] well,

[1:36:27] I'll tell you,

[1:36:28] what connotes a modern musical?

[1:36:30] There's a...

[1:36:30] I'm a big fan of

[1:36:32] Inside Llewyn Davis,

[1:36:33] which is not

[1:36:34] what you consider

[1:36:34] a traditional musical,

[1:36:35] but it is a movie

[1:36:36] that is punctuated by music

[1:36:37] that is expressing emotionally

[1:36:39] a lot of the times

[1:36:39] what the characters are into.

[1:36:41] And it's got that hilarious song

[1:36:42] about the guy

[1:36:43] who doesn't want to be an astronaut.

[1:36:45] And I enjoy...

[1:36:47] It's not as great as the stage show,

[1:36:48] but I enjoyed

[1:36:48] Tim Burton's Sweeney Todd movie.

[1:36:52] And it's a...

[1:36:54] I didn't see the stage show of it,

[1:36:56] which was based on a movie,

[1:36:57] but the movie once

[1:36:58] I remember really liking a lot,

[1:37:00] which is a...

[1:37:00] It's got music in it

[1:37:01] because it's about musicians,

[1:37:02] again,

[1:37:02] like Inside Llewyn Davis.

[1:37:04] But I remember finding that

[1:37:05] very emotional when I saw it.

[1:37:07] So those are some modern ones

[1:37:08] that I liked.

Stuart Wellington

[1:37:09] For another modern musical,

[1:37:11] I think this fits,

[1:37:12] is the Takeshi Miike movie

[1:37:14] Happiness of the Katakuris.

[1:37:16] That is a musical.

[1:37:17] Yay!

[1:37:18] Which is about a family

[1:37:19] that moves to the country

[1:37:20] to run a...

[1:37:21] Like an inn

[1:37:22] and their patrons

[1:37:24] all begin to die.

[1:37:26] It's fun.

[1:37:28] And according to

[1:37:29] My Little Phone here,

[1:37:31] available to watch on 2B,

[1:37:32] hell yeah!

[1:37:33] My Little Phoney.

[1:37:35] You should have said

Elliott Kalan

[1:37:35] My Little Phoney.

[1:37:36] 2B is...

[1:37:37] Look, 2B should advertise with us.

[1:37:38] They're an amazing...

[1:37:40] It's wild.

[1:37:41] Their library is astounding.

[1:37:42] Like it's just

[1:37:43] an astounding platform.

[1:37:44] So...

[1:37:44] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:37:46] Hey, let's move into

[1:37:47] the final segment,

[1:37:49] other than, I assume,

[1:37:50] a little reminder

[1:37:51] about The Drive.

[1:37:52] The final segment...

[1:37:53] Wink! Wink!

[1:37:54] Maybe.

[1:37:54] Where we recommend a movie,

[1:37:56] something that, you know,

[1:37:57] might be a better use

[1:37:58] of your remaining hours

[1:38:00] on this earth

[1:38:00] than The Atom Project.

Stuart Wellington

[1:38:03] Dan's about to say

[1:38:04] Morbius,

[1:38:04] and it's gonna

[1:38:05] flip my lid.

[1:38:07] No, no, no.

[1:38:07] I...

Dan McCoy

[1:38:08] I'm not gonna say...

[1:38:10] I'm not gonna say

[1:38:11] anything surprising.

[1:38:12] I might say, in fact,

[1:38:13] one of the least surprising things,

[1:38:15] which is I saw recently...

[1:38:17] Little Shop of Bars.

[1:38:17] Oh.

[1:38:17] Everything, Everywhere,

[1:38:19] All at Once.

[1:38:20] Hell yeah.

[1:38:20] Which currently

[1:38:21] has the distinction

[1:38:22] of being

[1:38:22] the highest rated movie

[1:38:24] on Letterboxd.

[1:38:26] Wow.

[1:38:27] And...

[1:38:28] So they're just

[1:38:28] making up awards, huh?

[1:38:30] It's...

[1:38:30] It's great.

[1:38:32] It's a great movie.

[1:38:33] I don't...

[1:38:34] Check out Lights Camera Jackson

[1:38:36] over here.

[1:38:36] I don't...

[1:38:37] No, he did not like it.

[1:38:39] And, like,

[1:38:40] it's just another reason

[1:38:41] not to like that kid.

[1:38:42] But anyway...

[1:38:43] I mean, he's like

[1:38:44] a grown man now,

[1:38:44] so we can be mean.

[1:38:45] Yeah, I guess.

[1:38:46] A grown up, yeah.

[1:38:47] Well...

[1:38:48] Audrey actually stopped me

[1:38:50] from being mean

[1:38:51] on his...

[1:38:51] Oh, cool.

[1:38:52] Audrey, Everywhere,

[1:38:53] All at Once tweet.

[1:38:54] She's like,

[1:38:54] you don't need to...

[1:38:54] I mean, there's no point.

Stuart Wellington

[1:38:56] There's no point.

[1:38:56] You have a podcast.

Dan McCoy

[1:38:57] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:38:58] Um...

[1:38:58] Yeah.

[1:39:02] No, I don't know

[1:39:03] what to say about it

[1:39:03] that hasn't already been...

[1:39:04] It's just...

[1:39:05] You know,

[1:39:06] it is a maximalist movie

[1:39:08] that starts...

[1:39:09] That works as well

[1:39:10] as it does

[1:39:11] because it grounds everything

[1:39:12] in real human emotions

[1:39:16] in a believable family.

[1:39:17] Like, everything goes back

[1:39:18] to the family.

[1:39:21] It's interesting to me

[1:39:22] to like...

[1:39:23] Even from the first scenes,

[1:39:26] you know,

[1:39:27] with everything that goes

[1:39:28] weird and bizarre

[1:39:31] and wacky later on,

[1:39:33] it feels so real

[1:39:36] and you believe this family

[1:39:37] a small thing,

[1:39:38] but like,

[1:39:39] the characters,

[1:39:41] you know,

[1:39:41] Audrey's Filipino

[1:39:42] and, you know,

[1:39:44] listening to her

[1:39:44] talk to her family,

[1:39:47] like, she'll switch

[1:39:48] in and out of Tagalog

[1:39:49] to English

[1:39:51] sort of seemingly

[1:39:52] at random to me

[1:39:53] and similarly,

[1:39:54] like, this is an immigrant family

[1:39:56] that, you know,

[1:39:56] switches back and forth

[1:39:57] from English to Chinese.

[1:39:58] It's like a very small touch

[1:39:59] that felt very real to me

[1:40:02] and then, of course,

[1:40:04] everything gets very nutty

[1:40:08] as it goes along

[1:40:09] and the thing that I like about it

[1:40:10] is the movie's commitment

[1:40:11] to taking absurd things

[1:40:13] that are funny

[1:40:14] and then pushing past that

[1:40:17] into a point

[1:40:17] where suddenly

[1:40:18] they're very moving.

[1:40:20] Yes.

[1:40:21] And it's just kind of

[1:40:23] an amazing trick

[1:40:24] that it pulls off

[1:40:25] so beautifully.

Stuart Wellington

[1:40:26] It's such an amazing magic trick

[1:40:27] that movie managers pull off.

[1:40:29] And, of course,

[1:40:30] Michelle Yeoh.

[1:40:31] Yeah.

[1:40:32] Just so good.

[1:40:33] And Jamie Lee Curtis, too.

[1:40:34] Yeah, yeah.

[1:40:35] It's so great.

[1:40:36] I mean,

[1:40:37] we're not breaking any news

Dan McCoy

[1:40:38] that Michelle Yeoh

[1:40:39] and Jamie Lee Curtis

[1:40:39] are great,

[1:40:40] but they're fantastic.

[1:40:42] So that's my recommendation.

[1:40:44] Stuart.

Stuart Wellington

[1:40:45] You know,

[1:40:45] I'm going to make

[1:40:46] a recommendation

[1:40:48] of a movie

[1:40:48] that I'm sure

[1:40:49] we've mentioned

[1:40:50] like a million times,

[1:40:51] but I saw it

[1:40:52] for the first time

[1:40:53] in the movie theater

[1:40:53] recently,

[1:40:54] and it was a movie

[1:40:56] I'm recommending

[1:40:57] Akira.

[1:40:58] The, what is it,

[1:40:59] 1987?

[1:41:01] Katsuhiro Otomo movie,

[1:41:02] animated movie.

[1:41:03] 88, I think.

[1:41:04] 88.

[1:41:04] I think you're right.

[1:41:05] It's 88.

[1:41:06] And it's a movie

[1:41:07] that I've seen

[1:41:08] many, many times.

[1:41:09] I own multiple copies.

[1:41:11] I own multiple versions

[1:41:13] of the manga

[1:41:13] that it's based on.

[1:41:15] And,

[1:41:16] but watching it

[1:41:17] in the movie theater

[1:41:18] was so incredible

[1:41:19] because I'd never

[1:41:20] seen it that way.

[1:41:21] And the score

[1:41:22] is so beautiful

[1:41:23] and huge

[1:41:24] and getting to see it

[1:41:26] on the big screen,

[1:41:26] you get to really

[1:41:27] see all the

[1:41:28] like beautiful

[1:41:29] little moments

[1:41:30] in the animation.

[1:41:31] Every single shot

[1:41:32] has something new

[1:41:33] to find in it.

[1:41:34] It's got so much motion.

[1:41:36] I mean like the first

[1:41:37] like five minutes,

[1:41:38] five to ten minutes

[1:41:39] is basically just as

[1:41:40] like nonstop

[1:41:41] as the first

[1:41:42] five to ten minutes

[1:41:43] of Mad Max Fury Road.

[1:41:44] Like that kind of

[1:41:45] level of adrenaline.

[1:41:46] And,

[1:41:47] uh,

[1:41:47] it also manages

[1:41:48] to condense

[1:41:49] what is a massive

[1:41:50] epic story

[1:41:51] from the,

[1:41:52] in the manga

[1:41:53] to,

[1:41:54] uh,

[1:41:55] it keeps a lot

[1:41:56] of the same elements

[1:41:57] but it also makes it

[1:41:57] weirdly more personal

[1:41:59] and focuses it

[1:42:00] on the relationship

[1:42:01] between Tetsuo

[1:42:02] and Kaneda.

[1:42:04] And,

[1:42:05] uh,

[1:42:06] yeah,

[1:42:06] and it,

[1:42:06] it also like

[1:42:07] brings in new

[1:42:08] ideas and elements

[1:42:09] about like

[1:42:10] puberty

[1:42:11] and masculinity

[1:42:13] and all that

[1:42:14] kind of stuff.

[1:42:15] It's,

[1:42:15] yeah,

[1:42:16] it's,

[1:42:16] it's a great movie

[1:42:16] if you,

[1:42:17] if for some reason

[1:42:18] you haven't watched

[1:42:18] this movie yet,

[1:42:19] uh,

[1:42:20] and you are interested

[1:42:21] in a big sci-fi,

[1:42:22] uh,

[1:42:23] movie,

[1:42:24] I would totally

[1:42:24] recommend it.

Elliott Kalan

[1:42:25] Uh,

[1:42:25] and I'm gonna recommend

[1:42:26] a different Japanese movie.

[1:42:28] What?

[1:42:29] What's this all about?

[1:42:30] Uh,

[1:42:31] this is a movie called

[1:42:32] Fighting Elegy

[1:42:33] from 1966.

[1:42:36] Uh,

[1:42:36] it's known by some

[1:42:37] other titles too

[1:42:37] but Fighting Elegy

[1:42:38] is the one I saw it under.

[1:42:39] It's directed by

[1:42:40] Saijun Suzuki

[1:42:40] who you may know

[1:42:42] as the director of,

[1:42:42] uh,

[1:42:43] Branded to Kill

[1:42:44] and,

[1:42:44] uh,

[1:42:44] Tokyo Drifter.

[1:42:46] Uh,

[1:42:46] there's a couple movies

[1:42:47] of his that,

[1:42:47] uh,

[1:42:47] have kind of broken

[1:42:48] through to,

[1:42:49] uh,

[1:42:50] more general film

[1:42:51] knowledge.

[1:42:52] But,

[1:42:52] uh,

[1:42:52] it's the story,

[1:42:53] uh,

[1:42:53] set in the 1930s

[1:42:55] of a teenager

[1:42:56] who lives at a,

[1:42:58] he lives at a boarding

[1:42:59] house,

[1:42:59] or he's boarding

[1:43:00] at a family's house

[1:43:00] and going to

[1:43:02] a military-themed

[1:43:03] kind of,

[1:43:04] they call it a middle

[1:43:05] school in the movie

[1:43:06] but it's more of a

[1:43:06] high school.

[1:43:07] And he has a crush

[1:43:09] on his landlady's

[1:43:10] daughter and they're

[1:43:11] all very devout

[1:43:12] Catholics and he feels

[1:43:13] guilty about the

[1:43:14] feelings he has

[1:43:15] about her.

[1:43:15] And the only way

[1:43:16] he can channel it

[1:43:16] is through,

[1:43:17] uh,

[1:43:18] this kind of

[1:43:19] fighting club

[1:43:20] that,

[1:43:21] uh,

[1:43:21] that he and his

[1:43:21] and the other kids

[1:43:22] there set up.

[1:43:23] And it's not like

[1:43:23] fight club where they

[1:43:24] like get together

[1:43:25] and beat each other

[1:43:25] up.

[1:43:26] This is a club where

[1:43:27] they are trying to

[1:43:27] train themselves to

[1:43:28] be ultimate warriors

[1:43:29] and they get into

[1:43:30] fights with other

[1:43:31] fighting clubs and

[1:43:32] they are ridiculous.

[1:43:34] Like,

[1:43:34] they're not good at it

[1:43:35] and although sometimes

[1:43:36] they're pretty good

[1:43:36] fighters but the,

[1:43:37] the character is,

[1:43:39] uh,

[1:43:40] so funny in a way

[1:43:41] that I didn't expect

[1:43:41] going into the movie

[1:43:42] and is so,

[1:43:43] like,

[1:43:44] this innocent

[1:43:45] who is finding

[1:43:45] that the only way

[1:43:46] to channel the

[1:43:47] emotions he feels

[1:43:48] because he can't

[1:43:49] quite express love

[1:43:50] or lust in a way

[1:43:51] that he thinks is

[1:43:52] acceptable is through,

[1:43:53] um,

[1:43:54] ever more elaborate,

[1:43:56] uh,

[1:43:56] kind of like

[1:43:57] military themed

[1:43:58] either discipline

[1:43:59] or fighting

[1:44:00] or things like that.

[1:44:01] and, uh,

[1:44:02] but it's a funnier movie

[1:44:03] than it sounds.

[1:44:04] There's a scene where,

[1:44:04] uh,

[1:44:05] he's so,

[1:44:06] he sees the landlady's

[1:44:07] daughter playing piano

[1:44:07] and that night he's

[1:44:08] so turned on that he

[1:44:09] has to masturbate by

[1:44:10] playing the piano with

[1:44:11] his penis.

Stuart Wellington

[1:44:12] Oh, no.

[1:44:14] And,

[1:44:14] and,

Stuart Wellington

[1:44:14] and,

[1:44:15] and,

Stuart Wellington

[1:44:15] and,

Elliott Kalan

[1:44:15] and,

[1:44:16] and as soon as he's done,

[1:44:17] he turns and sees a cross

[1:44:18] hanging on the wall

[1:44:19] and he's like,

[1:44:19] oh,

[1:44:20] no,

[1:44:20] what have I done?

[1:44:21] He feels so guilty.

[1:44:22] Um,

[1:44:23] the,

[1:44:23] and the movie takes,

[1:44:24] uh,

[1:44:25] I'll,

[1:44:26] I'll spoil something

[1:44:26] and say the movie takes

[1:44:27] in a very abrupt turn

[1:44:28] for the series at the end.

[1:44:30] It's leading up towards

[1:44:31] a real life event

[1:44:32] in Japanese history

[1:44:33] where members of the military

[1:44:35] tried to overthrow

[1:44:35] the government

[1:44:36] in the mid-30s

[1:44:36] and,

[1:44:37] um,

[1:44:38] and eventually leading to

[1:44:39] the,

[1:44:40] you know,

[1:44:40] the major military

[1:44:41] crimes and disasters

[1:44:43] and mistakes

[1:44:43] that Japan makes

[1:44:44] going into World War II.

[1:44:45] But,

[1:44:45] uh,

[1:44:46] up until that point

[1:44:46] there's like a,

[1:44:47] a real funny lightness

[1:44:49] to it

[1:44:49] that I could really relate to

[1:44:51] as like a,

[1:44:51] you know,

[1:44:52] confused,

[1:44:52] adolescent.

[1:44:53] But at the same time,

[1:44:54] it feels both universal

[1:44:55] and very much

[1:44:55] of its time

[1:44:56] in a good way.

[1:44:57] Um,

[1:44:58] and like,

[1:44:58] if you want to see a movie

[1:44:59] where,

[1:44:59] uh,

[1:45:00] it's a teenager grappling

[1:45:01] with his emotions

[1:45:02] but there's also a scene

[1:45:03] where his friend

[1:45:04] roller skates

[1:45:05] into a principal's office

[1:45:06] and shoots everybody

[1:45:07] with peas

[1:45:07] with a pea shooter

[1:45:08] and then roller skates

[1:45:09] out again.

[1:45:10] Uh,

[1:45:10] and that's how he saves him.

[1:45:12] Um,

[1:45:12] this is the movie for you.

[1:45:13] So it's called

[1:45:14] Fighting Elegy.

[1:45:15] The title makes it sound

[1:45:16] more,

[1:45:17] uh,

[1:45:17] serious than it is.

[1:45:18] It'll get serious at the end.

[1:45:19] But I liked it a lot.

[1:45:20] Fighting Elegy.

[1:45:21] Well,

Dan McCoy

[1:45:22] we did it,

[1:45:23] guys.

[1:45:23] Three recommendations.

[1:45:24] I can't think of

[1:45:24] anything else

[1:45:26] that needs to be done.

[1:45:27] Nothing at all.

[1:45:28] Yeah,

[1:45:28] makes sense.

Elliott Kalan

[1:45:29] Makes sense.

[1:45:29] We finished out the episode

[1:45:30] but,

[1:45:31] uh,

[1:45:31] one more thing.

[1:45:32] Uh,

[1:45:32] the Max Fun Drive

[1:45:33] starts on,

[1:45:34] uh,

[1:45:34] April 25th,

[1:45:34] uh,

[1:45:35] the day after this episode

[1:45:36] comes out.

[1:45:37] So,

[1:45:37] uh,

[1:45:37] I've got some questions

[1:45:38] for you.

[1:45:38] Um,

[1:45:39] uh,

[1:45:40] do you,

[1:45:40] does it mean something

[1:45:41] to you to have the freedom

[1:45:42] to do whatever you want

[1:45:42] with this show

[1:45:43] because,

[1:45:44] uh,

[1:45:44] we own it

[1:45:45] and we're supported

[1:45:46] by our fans

[1:45:46] and we don't have to

[1:45:47] answer to any bosses

[1:45:48] or big networks

[1:45:48] or anything?

[1:45:49] What does that mean

[1:45:49] to you,

[1:45:50] Daniel?

Dan McCoy

[1:45:50] I mean,

[1:45:51] it is,

[1:45:51] it's,

[1:45:52] it's,

[1:45:52] it's amazing.

[1:45:53] I have,

[1:45:53] uh,

[1:45:54] worked on things

[1:45:56] that are not personal

[1:45:57] to me

[1:45:57] and it is wonderful

[1:45:59] to have a thing

[1:46:00] that we do together

[1:46:01] that is exactly

[1:46:02] as specific

[1:46:03] and silly

[1:46:04] and dumb

[1:46:05] as we like to do

[1:46:07] and to know

[1:46:07] that people also like that.

Elliott Kalan

[1:46:09] Makes sense.

[1:46:10] Uh,

[1:46:10] yeah,

[1:46:11] Just one more thing,

[1:46:12] Stu,

[1:46:12] uh,

[1:46:12] do you feel it's important

[1:46:14] to support artists

[1:46:15] that you enjoy?

Stuart Wellington

[1:46:16] Uh,

[1:46:16] yeah,

[1:46:16] I mean,

[1:46:17] you know I do.

[1:46:19] I love supporting,

[1:46:20] uh,

[1:46:20] small local creators

[1:46:21] on all levels.

[1:46:24] Sounds weird.

[1:46:25] Yeah,

[1:46:25] I was hoping for something

Elliott Kalan

[1:46:27] a little bit more heartfelt

[1:46:28] but that's okay,

[1:46:29] makes sense,

[1:46:30] I'll ask myself

[1:46:31] the next question.

[1:46:32] Elliot,

[1:46:33] as,

[1:46:33] as Columbo,

[1:46:34] uh,

[1:46:35] has this show

[1:46:36] kind of helped other people

[1:46:37] in a way that membership

[1:46:38] makes possible?

[1:46:39] Yeah,

[1:46:39] well I was talking to,

[1:46:40] uh,

[1:46:40] Mrs. Elliot as Columbo

[1:46:42] the other day

[1:46:43] and she was pointing out

[1:46:45] to me that,

[1:46:46] uh,

[1:46:46] you know,

[1:46:46] it's just amazing

[1:46:47] that so many people

[1:46:47] get so much from this show.

[1:46:49] We as the host

[1:46:49] get so much

[1:46:50] and we're so thankful

[1:46:51] for all the people

[1:46:52] who make that possible

[1:46:53] with their memberships.

[1:46:54] It's their

[1:46:54] that really keeps

[1:46:56] the lights on.

[1:46:59] All right,

[1:46:59] I'll drop the X

[1:47:00] then,

[1:47:00] I apologize.

[1:47:02] Anyway,

[1:47:02] it's hard to do it

[1:47:03] for a long time.

[1:47:04] So anyway,

[1:47:05] yeah,

[1:47:05] we just,

[1:47:05] we really appreciate

[1:47:06] your support.

[1:47:07] I'm gonna restate

[1:47:07] some goals

[1:47:08] and some rewards.

[1:47:09] There's all the max

[1:47:10] fun stuff.

[1:47:10] At $5 a month

[1:47:11] you get the bonus content,

[1:47:12] $10 a month

[1:47:13] you get the patch,

[1:47:14] and for each higher level

[1:47:15] you get other stuff.

[1:47:16] Our specific show goals,

[1:47:18] if we get

[1:47:19] 1,900 new and upgrading

[1:47:20] pledgers,

[1:47:21] we're gonna have

[1:47:22] those giveaways,

[1:47:23] comic books,

[1:47:24] drawings,

[1:47:24] bar shirts,

[1:47:25] all sorts of stuff.

[1:47:26] At 2,300 new and pledgers,

[1:47:28] we're gonna do that

[1:47:28] country bears commentary,

[1:47:30] full length audio commentary

[1:47:31] for all of the movie

[1:47:32] country bears.

[1:47:32] And if we reach 3,000

[1:47:34] new and pledging members,

[1:47:36] we're gonna do

[1:47:37] quarterly movie commentaries.

[1:47:40] One every three months.

[1:47:41] You know one of them

[1:47:42] is gonna be Food Fight,

[1:47:43] so watch out.

[1:47:45] Most of all,

[1:47:47] we want you to join

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[1:47:51] keep bringing you this show,

[1:47:52] putting out this dumb podcast

[1:47:54] about stupid movies.

[1:47:55] It isn't how I thought

[1:47:56] I'd be helping the world,

[1:47:57] but it's kind of how,

[1:47:58] what we fell into.

[1:47:59] So please do what you can

[1:48:00] to keep the lights on

[1:48:01] and the Nicolas Cage

[1:48:02] burning.

[1:48:03] Please consider joining,

[1:48:04] upgrading,

[1:48:05] maybe giving someone

[1:48:05] a gift membership.

[1:48:07] I think it'll make

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[1:48:08] and it'll make you

[1:48:09] feel a little better

[1:48:09] and the karma police

[1:48:11] will look on you

[1:48:12] kindly for it.

[1:48:13] So a sincere,

[1:48:14] very heartfelt,

[1:48:15] very grateful thank you

[1:48:16] to all of our members

[1:48:17] and to all of our

[1:48:18] future members.

[1:48:19] Thank you from the

[1:48:20] Flophouse.

[1:48:21] Join us,

[1:48:21] won't you,

[1:48:22] at MaximumFun.org

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[1:48:24] Again,

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[1:48:27] slash join.

Dan McCoy

[1:48:28] And because we've

[1:48:29] said so much,

[1:48:29] I won't go through

[1:48:30] our whole spiel,

[1:48:31] but I will thank

[1:48:32] Alex Smith,

[1:48:34] our producer.

[1:48:35] You can find him

[1:48:35] at HowellDotty

[1:48:36] on Twitter.

[1:48:37] He's got his own podcast

[1:48:38] called Fast Track.

[1:48:40] He does a show

[1:48:41] on Twitch

[1:48:41] with a giant possum.

[1:48:44] So if that interests you,

[1:48:46] check it out.

[1:48:47] But I'll just say

[1:48:49] thank you for listening

[1:48:49] for the Flophouse.

[1:48:50] I've been Dan McCoy.

Stuart Wellington

[1:48:52] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[1:48:53] I'm Elliot Kalin.

[1:48:55] Bye!

Dan McCoy

[1:49:00] On this episode,

[1:49:01] we discuss

[1:49:02] The Adam Project.

Stuart Wellington

[1:49:04] Starring Adam Scott?

[1:49:06] No.

[1:49:07] Adam Carolla?

Dan McCoy

[1:49:09] Driver?

[1:49:10] No.

[1:49:10] They don't usually

[1:49:12] name movies

[1:49:12] after the actors' names.

Stuart Wellington

[1:49:14] Starring Adam and Eve?

[1:49:17] Adam Ant?

Dan McCoy

[1:49:20] Adam Antium?

[1:49:23] Should we do

[1:49:24] a different one?

[1:49:25] Yeah, maybe.

Elliott Kalan

[1:49:28] MaximumFun.org

[1:49:29] Comedy and culture.

S5

[1:49:31] Artist owned.

[1:49:32] Audience supported.

Ep #367 - The Adam Project

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