Ep. #368 - The War with Grandpa, with Griffin McElroy

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss the war with grandpa.

[0:04] That's right. It's time to rise up against the boomers. Do it.

[0:07] I mean, they would be my parents, but they would be my kids, grandparents.

[0:11] Time to overthrow them, make this country right again,

[0:13] a place only for young people like me, a 40-year-old man.

[0:30] Hey, everyone. Welcome to The Flop House. I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:46] Ooh, thanks for passing it to me, Dan. It's me, Stuart Wellington.

[0:49] And over to you, Elliot.

[0:50] I'll take that ball in my hands.

[0:52] I'm Elliot Kalin, and I'm super excited about who I'm passing the ball to next.

[0:56] And go! You had to throw it so far over the Internet,

[1:04] but yet it still hit me with such concussive force that it took the wind out of me.

[1:09] Hi, it's Griffin McElroy. Hello. It's Griffin. Like the Pokemon,

[1:13] we have collected them all when it comes to McElroy boys now.

[1:18] But I was an elusive catch, eh? You had to really use your master ball.

[1:24] I know Team Rocket had you for a while, and that made it harder to find.

[1:26] That's true. That's true. Yeah. This is all stuff I understand as a 43-year-old man.

[1:32] Dan is way more into Digimon and Yu-Gi-Oh than Pokemon. Fair.

[1:37] Yeah. Hey, everyone, before we get too deep into Pokemon,

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[2:17] But we'll get to all that later. Wait, Dan, if they want to go join right now,

[2:22] where would they go do that? Well, that was literally the next sentence.

[2:26] Thank you for interrupting me to remind me what's in my notes.

[2:29] You were here. You seem to be signaling that you are moving on to the next segment.

[2:32] Nope. So we'll get I said we'll get to all that later.

[2:35] But for now, see, that's the that's the transition.

[2:38] That's the link. You're right. I should have waited to find out.

[2:42] Knowing Dan McCoy, I should have known there was a butt coming.

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[3:00] Join if you have the means.

[3:04] But for now, back to the show, which is what we do here.

[3:08] And our special guest, Griffin. Now, Griffin. Hello.

[3:13] Hi. We're doing for any for anyone listening who doesn't know Griffin.

[3:16] You're wrong. Of course, you know, Griffin. He's much more famous than the hosts of this show.

[3:21] It would be why I do. It would be pretty even I'll admit it's pretty well.

[3:26] But that's just because we've been on the network together for about a million years.

[3:31] Yeah. For like at some point you have to have accidentally clicked on both of our shows at this point.

[3:37] Yeah. Especially since there's literally been crossovers.

[3:41] Right. Yeah. It's it's unthinkable.

[3:43] But, yeah, Griffin, a well-known podcaster for his own shows.

[3:50] One 30 under 30 recipient. My brother, my brother, me, the picture zone.

[3:56] I saw a tweet today not to do real things instantly, but I did that.

[4:01] Yeah. Twitter got sold. Oh, no.

[4:05] Somebody tweeted that 30 like things changed for me when I realized 30 under 30 bought their way into that position.

[4:13] And I felt scandalized by that because I did.

[4:16] I were first of all, where would I get that kind of money to buy Forbes magazine?

[4:22] Yeah. I mean, they're white. They have all the money.

[4:26] There's all this money in print magazines. The word famous in your description has podcaster after it.

[4:32] So I assume you don't have Forbes bribing money like that.

[4:36] Yes, precisely. No. Yes. It should all be, you know, tech bros and like, I don't know,

[4:42] people who own like diamond mines all over the globe.

[4:47] But right. The place I was trying to steer this podcast.

[4:52] Well, first of all, let me explain the premise to those coming in for the first time.

[4:56] Well, as again, I want to what Dan say what the premise is and then I'm going to correct it.

[5:03] OK, well, I know what I was going to do, but I won't. I will. Yes.

[5:06] And rather than thank you, this is a podcast.

[5:10] We watch a movie that was a critical or a commercial flop.

[5:14] And then we talk about it. I thought you might say that.

[5:16] I just want to remind listeners a couple episodes ago before Max one drive started.

[5:20] We took a vote on air and we officially changed the premise of the show.

[5:23] Do the place where people air their different opinions about Topeka, Kansas.

[5:28] Yeah. So right. I mean, I don't have one.

[5:33] Well, I mean, that is not kind of a bummer.

[5:36] I feel like that should have come up in the pre-interview.

[5:38] I've got to talk to our guest booker. I think just sort of a general lack of interest or knowledge is.

[5:46] I don't know that I've ever been to any city, though.

[5:48] We're like, I've left it and been like that whole city sucks shit.

[5:51] And anybody who lives there is an idiot. You know what I mean?

[5:55] And I don't think Topeka would be the first one to sort of like cross that threshold.

[5:58] That's very fair of you. Yeah. Maybe that's that.

[6:01] Maybe that's the touring performer side of me,

[6:03] because I feel like thanks for thanks for fucking nothing to be out of here losers.

[6:11] But so, yeah, we're a movie podcast and yeah,

[6:14] the stars aligned to get you on the show for this one because listeners to your own show know

[6:19] that there was a show where you abandoned the entire premise of your show to just talk about the war

[6:27] with Grandpa sight unseen. Yeah. And so we've and it was such a it's one of those.

[6:34] You all know when you're on or on a tear,

[6:37] when you're pitching a perfect game in a podcast episode, you're like, is this is this the moment?

[6:42] And that was that just the stars aligned.

[6:45] And it worked out for us that we got to do a whole episode about one joke.

[6:49] And it was the easiest day of work in my life because you just get to make the one joke over and over again.

[6:54] And you can just fucking coast on it and do whatever else you want.

[6:58] So that was that was pretty miraculous. And, you know, we've had a few things approach that man versus be on Netflix.

[7:04] It looked like we were going to go maybe at least half an episode talking about that,

[7:08] breaking that down one joke. But yeah, we're with Grandpa.

[7:12] Is it as the gold standard for me, baby? Well,

[7:13] and the beauty is you share that with worth Grandpa.

[7:16] There's basically one joke that just gets sort of extended.

[7:23] Yeah, there's there's a there's man. I'm so excited.

[7:27] Are we in it? We're going to start talking about that.

[7:29] So Stewart's going to take before we can talk about the plot of the movie.

[7:32] We have to get through about 10 hours of production logos.

[7:35] Yeah, now that are, you know, but they're in the font that, you know, like this is not good.

[7:40] I've never seen a great film open with the font treatment of these.

[7:44] Yeah, yeah. Logos and titles. Yeah, the credits hit and you're like, oh, they went with silly credits.

[7:49] Oh, no, this is like, you know, the credits silly credits.

[7:53] And yet it's for some reason they also decided that this movie would have a heavy like hip-hop sound.

[7:59] Yeah, like, yes, it seems incredibly inappropriate to movie with I think three black people in it.

[8:05] We're all play service workers in different places.

[8:09] I have said more professional titles in a Brazzers production is what I'm trying to say.

[8:17] Now, I will say in their defense Brazzers.

[8:20] They seem to have invested in a high-quality title computer.

[8:25] It may as well have been comics and then you and then, you know, that's when so the movie opens,

[8:32] of course, like you'd imagine it would on the first day of sixth grade for our young heroes

[8:37] who are lamenting the shift in power dynamics.

[8:39] So I was going to say in media red. Yeah, not this time.

[8:43] This is the first time I was lying. He got shot on a mountain.

[8:48] His ghost says I suppose you wondering how I got here for his hell, especially with your own grandson.

[8:55] Let me explain record scratch. Yeah, so we're we're in what junior high high school.

[9:00] I don't remember sixth grade. It's the first first year of middle school.

[9:05] Yeah, it's a bummer. So we cut to yeah, like they're sad like there's bullies.

[9:11] There's an evil older sister Etc. You know, you know the drill.

[9:15] They do they it is very loosely sketched out.

[9:19] Yeah, there's a there's this is a very antagonistic film.

[9:22] There's a lot of there's a lot of bad people and sort of all sectors of this of this war thing

[9:27] about it is that the bullies and the evil older sister who does embarrassing things only seem like

[9:33] it's not like they're embarrassing them in front of other kids in the school.

[9:37] Like they're just embarrassing them in front of their friends.

[9:39] And I'm like, I wouldn't care. I don't care what my friends know about me.

[9:43] So here's my theory. Well, Griffin, you talk now to give my theory.

[9:47] I was just going to say that the bully and the girl who bullies the younger her younger brother

[9:52] and the younger brother and so many characters in this film Christmas girl,

[9:57] like there's so many characters in the film whose sole role is to walk on.

[10:00] and just say, I'm a bully, and then walk off of the screen.

[10:04] There's definitely a lack of internal life

[10:06] in most of the characters, and external life.

[10:08] Yes.

[10:09] It's like a Saturday.

[10:09] If the sister shows up, you know.

[10:11] It's like a Saturday night live sketch

[10:13] that's based on, you know, celebrity personalities.

[10:15] They just come on, say what their deal is, and then they go.

[10:19] No, I'm just.

[10:20] Yeah, there's not much evolution for bully or sister.

[10:25] Sister only walks on and is like, here's a diaper.

[10:28] It's yours, idiot.

[10:30] And they don't even give the bully a second catchphrase.

[10:33] He has one that he uses over and over,

[10:35] only to eventually be hoisted on his own petard.

[10:38] Yes, what a clever turnaround.

[10:40] Here's my theory about it.

[10:41] This is, I think, maybe,

[10:43] this school is being run on the Bayside High model,

[10:45] where, as in Saved by the Bell,

[10:46] there were seven kids in the whole grade,

[10:48] and they were famous, and everybody knew them,

[10:51] and all the other kids were barely,

[10:53] they were just there, hired by the school to be extras

[10:56] for the adventures of these six or seven kids.

[10:58] I think it's like that.

[10:59] It's a new thing.

[11:00] There's only four sixth graders.

[11:02] At one point, Bayside buries a fucking time capsule,

[11:05] and it's only filled with six students' memories.

[11:09] What the fuck?

[11:11] Yeah, it's just amazing.

[11:12] It's amazing that they were able to bury that time capsule,

[11:15] considering in another episode,

[11:16] it was made clear that there is oil in the ground,

[11:19] in the pond behind the school.

[11:24] They skipped all the scenes

[11:25] where Bayside forms a democratic republic

[11:27] and chooses six representatives

[11:29] to send their legacy forward through time.

[11:32] I was imagining a similar backstory,

[11:35] but where those six have something on Mr. Belding.

[11:41] Well, it's clear that Mr. Belding is an imposter.

[11:44] He committed a crime and appeared at that school

[11:46] on the day that the real Mr. Belding

[11:47] was supposed to show up and put that man's life.

[11:48] This is sort of a Drillbit Taylor

[11:50] sort of situation, you think, with these kids?

[11:53] To be honest, never seen Drillbit Taylor,

[11:54] don't really know, so.

[11:56] I was describing the blood of the TV show, Banshee.

[11:58] Oh, that's a shame,

[11:59] because this movie has big Drillbit Taylor energy, okay?

[12:02] Fair, fair.

[12:03] Big Drillbit Taylor energy.

[12:04] Do you guys ever see the Saved by the Bell

[12:05] where there's gonna be a new school song

[12:07] and the main characters decide they don't like it,

[12:09] so they write a new one,

[12:10] and the new school song is all about

[12:12] how they're graduating now

[12:13] and they're gonna miss all the parties and all the dances,

[12:17] and I was like, there are students

[12:18] who are still gonna be at that school for years.

[12:20] This is the song.

[12:21] The song is just about what our heroes

[12:22] are feeling right now at this moment.

[12:24] It was ridiculous.

[12:27] Only six students at the school.

[12:29] Okay, guys, so Grandpa has to live at home

[12:31] because he can't use the self-checkout machine,

[12:34] and then he overreacts and causes a riot

[12:36] at the grocery store.

[12:37] That self-checks out, yeah.

[12:39] Yeah.

[12:41] I understand that this film was not engineered

[12:44] for my specific tastes, unlike the rest of media,

[12:49] but are there people whose suspension of disbelief

[12:53] can reach far enough to cover how hard a time he has

[12:57] with the self-checkout?

[12:59] If anything, I find a bag of pizza rolls that are wet,

[13:04] that have been sitting in your cart for a while,

[13:06] and you scan the barcode, you can miss by three inches

[13:10] with the barcode all wet and wrinkled up,

[13:12] and it'll still get that shit.

[13:14] I feel like self-scanning technology has come so far,

[13:17] and this film did not acknowledge that fact whatsoever.

[13:20] Yeah, and he seemed just so generally baffled

[13:24] that UPC code technology, that's from the 60s or 70s,

[13:27] so it's just weird.

[13:29] Later on, his inability to scan,

[13:32] he uses to pick up Flirt with Jane Seymour,

[13:35] so maybe the whole time it's a bit.

[13:36] Oh, it's a long con.

[13:38] I mean, he didn't need a, he's Robbie D,

[13:40] he didn't need a gimmick.

[13:42] Yeah, I mean, she's hanging for it.

[13:44] He can swoop, he's fine.

[13:46] And I mean, it'd be one thing if it was like,

[13:49] while he's using the self-checkout,

[13:50] it keeps thinking that he has a bag

[13:52] or that he's removing items when he's not.

[13:54] Like, that happens to me all the time.

[13:56] Yeah, that happens.

[13:57] I could say, maybe this is an unofficial,

[13:59] I mean, he's a character who builds houses,

[14:02] and here's how I'm gonna spin this.

[14:03] This is an unofficial sequel to The Irishman,

[14:05] and when they say he builds houses,

[14:07] really they mean he paints houses,

[14:08] which means he's an assassin.

[14:10] And he's been in jail for a long time,

[14:11] and he's like Bertie in Shawshank.

[14:14] He gets out and he's like,

[14:15] oh, things move faster here now.

[14:17] They got robots that count the numbers for you

[14:20] when you wanna buy things.

[14:21] I don't know how to talk to these computies.

[14:25] Or say the word that has been told to me.

[14:28] I don't know how to use the words of this future time.

[14:32] So his daughter Sally, played by Uma Thurman,

[14:34] convinces him to-

[14:35] In a surprising casting.

[14:36] I was very surprised to see Uma Thurman in this movie.

[14:38] This was a weird thing where I was lamenting

[14:41] that all that Jennifer Garner can get

[14:43] is mom roles for the last movie that we watched.

[14:47] And pizza rolls, yeah.

[14:48] This one, I was kinda like,

[14:50] oh, it's nice to see Uma Thurman get to play

[14:52] kind of like a normal person for once.

[14:54] Yeah, I kind of thought the same thing.

[14:56] Normal person who becomes increasingly unhinged.

[14:59] She does seem very unhinged about her daughter's

[15:02] dating life, which I never understood,

[15:04] but we'll get there.

[15:05] I feel like there was another,

[15:07] I feel like there were a couple other movies

[15:09] happening at the same time of this movie

[15:11] in the background of the movie we saw.

[15:13] Well, this is, so this movie is set up in a,

[15:15] it feels very much like a Disney sitcom,

[15:17] but like in movie form,

[15:19] where like there's all these little characters

[15:20] who have their little arcs and B plots and C plots.

[15:23] And whereas in this way,

[15:26] I think it is a better movie than Being the Ricardos,

[15:29] which is also a sitcom stretched out to movie length,

[15:32] but they didn't really have fully,

[15:34] here I felt that the,

[15:36] it felt more like sitcoms storylines

[15:38] that had endings and things like that.

[15:40] But anyway.

[15:41] It felt like a bunch of scenes.

[15:44] I feel like I watched,

[15:44] I definitely watched a bunch of scenes today.

[15:46] Well, it is.

[15:47] And there were characters and dialogue in each one.

[15:49] It is funny that,

[15:50] and we'll get to it,

[15:51] like there's a couple of times where you're like,

[15:52] oh, I guess the war is over now.

[15:54] Oh no.

[15:54] Okay.

[15:55] Still continuing.

[15:56] 20 minutes left.

[15:57] Well, we'll get there.

[15:58] So, yeah.

[15:59] So he's forced,

[16:00] grandpa's forced to abandon the home

[16:02] that he built with his own two hands,

[16:04] like a real American.

[16:06] And he has to move into his grandson's,

[16:09] I'm assuming jizz encrusted bedroom.

[16:12] I mean, he's in sixth grade.

[16:14] So yeah, it's the beginnings of it.

[16:15] I don't know if it's fully encrusted.

[16:17] It's implied.

[16:18] Yeah.

[16:19] So the grandson,

[16:21] in this case,

[16:22] Peter has to move into the attic

[16:24] and he is not happy about it.

[16:28] Let's look at our dramatic personae real quick.

[16:30] I would like to say that part of the reason

[16:32] Peter's unhappy about moving into the attic

[16:35] is despite the fact that there appears to be

[16:37] no particular like ticking clock

[16:40] on De Niro having to make this move,

[16:43] they move him in while Peter's stuff

[16:46] like seemingly is still in his old room.

[16:50] And the attic is still full of cobwebs.

[16:52] Completely unfinished, you know.

[16:54] Filled with also bats and rats.

[16:56] Yeah.

[16:58] It is like he is moving into Baba Yaga's home.

[17:01] Like he does not,

[17:03] this is not a space that any person

[17:06] would have in a home without having placed

[17:08] like phone calls to the city immediately.

[17:11] It does feel like there should be

[17:12] a bubbling cauldron full of frogs in there too.

[17:15] Yes, exactly.

[17:16] But on the other hand,

[17:17] I don't know about you guys,

[17:18] but when I was a kid,

[17:20] if somebody was like,

[17:21] hey, you got to go move into this cool attic,

[17:23] I'd have been down.

[17:25] Yeah, my first thought was,

[17:27] yeah, finally you get to move to the attic.

[17:29] Fantastic.

[17:30] Go for it.

[17:31] Enjoy that.

[17:32] No, it doesn't.

[17:32] You know Kevin McCallister was probably pumped

[17:34] to get some J.O. time.

[17:37] So, that's the attic space.

[17:39] It implies like the greater difficulty.

[17:42] You just crank.

[17:44] Greater difficulty to get to the room.

[17:46] You know, like there's an exponential growth

[17:48] in privacy that, yeah,

[17:50] he's not really calculating, I think.

[17:52] Yeah.

[17:53] I mean, yeah, I just don't get it.

[17:56] Whatever.

[17:56] You know, maybe this is one of the things

[17:59] that the movie can convince me of.

[18:01] Look, I'm gonna tip my hand early

[18:03] and say that I'm on Grandpa's side

[18:06] through most of this movie.

[18:08] Wow, Team Grandpa, okay.

[18:09] I think this kid's a little shit.

[18:10] Team Grandpa is one fighter.

[18:12] And the thing is, like, it's very hard

[18:14] for the movie to do that,

[18:15] considering that Robert De Niro is an elderly man

[18:19] and theoretically should know better than this child.

[18:21] But the child seems.

[18:23] The child knows no restraint.

[18:24] Such a piece of shit.

[18:25] The child, yeah, anyway.

[18:27] I was looking up on IMDB and the child actor,

[18:30] can I make fun of his name, Dan?

[18:31] It's something like Oakley Fegebedet or something like.

[18:35] His name is Oaks Fegley.

[18:36] I mean, it's.

[18:37] That's hilarious.

[18:38] I guess you can make fun of his name

[18:39] because he didn't give himself that name.

[18:41] I assume his parents did.

[18:43] Yeah, well, I'm making fun of his parents, okay.

[18:45] So our dramatic persona is.

[18:47] He was also in the new version of Pete's Dragon.

[18:49] So does he only play characters named Pete?

[18:52] It's possible.

[18:55] So, yep, once again, our dramatic persona,

[18:58] Sally is the mom.

[18:59] Arthur, played by Rob Riggle, is the dad.

[19:01] And every time he uses the computer.

[19:02] This is the first of the two people,

[19:04] first of the two people who have,

[19:05] in this movie that I've worked with personally.

[19:06] That's an easy one.

[19:07] That's an easy guess.

[19:08] It's the Daily Show guy.

[19:10] But the other one,

[19:10] I'm gonna see if you can guess

[19:11] who the other person in the movie is

[19:12] that I've worked with when they come up.

[19:15] Cool.

[19:16] We got Cheech Marin.

[19:18] Cheech Marin.

[19:20] I'd wish I'd have nothing but questions

[19:21] about what it was like to be a hyena

[19:22] on the set of The Lion King.

[19:25] On the set?

[19:28] What was it like getting into that hyena costume?

[19:33] Mia is the eldest daughter who's got boy problems.

[19:38] The problem is her mom doesn't want her to see that.

[19:39] Her boy problem is just that she has a boyfriend.

[19:41] She's successful.

[19:42] Yeah, I was gonna ask you.

[19:44] Look, I had a very hard time keeping my mind

[19:46] on what was happening in The War with Grandpa,

[19:49] a film that evaporates as it moves past you.

[19:53] There's not a lot of movie there.

[19:54] There's not a lot of movie there.

[19:56] Was there ever a real reason why this was a bad boyfriend?

[20:00] just typical sitcom parents panicking at teen sexuality.

[20:05] I think at the end, he brings flowers

[20:08] to her grandfather in the hospital,

[20:10] or just goes to visit her grandfather in the hospital,

[20:11] and Uma Thurman is like, no, get out of here.

[20:14] It's like, that's a keeper.

[20:15] I would say the worst thing about him

[20:16] is that every time her mom walks into the room,

[20:19] he stands up and looks guilty.

[20:21] Yeah, he does stand up as if he is pulling his pants up

[20:24] in the same motion, but there's nothing wrong

[20:27] other than not wanting their little girl

[20:29] to cross that threshold into womanhood, to a girl.

[20:32] The terminus est, if you will.

[20:34] Now, being the father of boys,

[20:36] I of course want them to hurtle through that threshold,

[20:39] and this is a constant battle of wills

[20:43] between the parents of girls and the parents of boys.

[20:45] That's not for generations.

[20:46] That's the war with mom and dad, is what that is.

[20:49] Ellie, did you work with Jane Seymour?

[20:52] No, I did not work with Jane Seymour.

[20:52] That would be so lame.

[20:54] All right, well, carry on.

[20:56] And then finally we have Jenny as the youngest daughter

[20:59] who's this Christmas-obsessed little urchin.

[21:02] Yeah.

[21:03] Peter's friends encourage him

[21:04] to go to war with grandpa for his bedroom,

[21:07] and we're all, I guess, along for the ride.

[21:10] That's usually how it is with a movie.

[21:11] We are usually along for the ride with whatever happens.

[21:15] Drive my car?

[21:16] During this one, I said, no, don't do it,

[21:18] and the actor looked up at the screen,

[21:20] and he's like, you're right, cooler heads prevail.

[21:21] You know what?

[21:22] I should not go to war with my grandpa.

[21:24] He is aged, he is an aged widower.

[21:27] What was I thinking?

[21:28] And sleeping in an attic is pretty cool.

[21:30] You know what?

[21:32] Whose genitalia, upon gazing on it,

[21:35] causes horror and-

[21:37] Will turn you to stone.

[21:39] The switch happens so fast, too,

[21:40] because the kid, I mean, the kid is whiny about it,

[21:44] but at first, it seems like everything's cool,

[21:47] and grandpa's not happy to be there, either.

[21:49] Grandpa does not want to be-

[21:50] He's depressed.

[21:51] He just, he lost his wife.

[21:52] Yeah, exactly.

[21:53] It's unclear when he lost his wife.

[21:55] It's unclear how long ago that was.

[21:58] Yeah, but you-

[21:59] You think they should add a scene, right?

[22:01] They should add, like, a scene

[22:02] where she gets hit by a car or something?

[22:04] Well, it's just, the picture that he looks at of her

[22:07] is she looks very young, and so I was like,

[22:09] is this someone that he's lived without for a long time,

[22:12] or has he been on his own for a short amount of time?

[22:14] It's Robbie D, baby.

[22:15] You know he is.

[22:16] I'm sorry, I'm-

[22:17] He is.

[22:19] I'm suddenly at least 20 years younger than him.

[22:22] I think we all agree.

[22:22] Absolutely.

[22:23] Yeah.

[22:24] I'm suddenly laughing very hard at the idea of-

[22:26] She fell on the yacht.

[22:28] Stuart self-funding a prequel to The War with Grandpa.

[22:32] Just so there could be a scene of grandma

[22:35] being hit by a car, because, like-

[22:37] It's called The War with,

[22:39] Before the War with Grandma, colon, The Death of Grandma.

[22:42] Yeah, it's like, look,

[22:43] there were too many unanswered questions,

[22:45] and now I fixed the movie.

[22:47] Explains a lot.

[22:48] It's like how I met your mother.

[22:49] You keep thinking this is how grandma's gonna die,

[22:52] and then she doesn't until the next scene.

[22:53] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[22:54] Oh.

[22:55] They should just put in the intro to Up, man.

[22:58] That shit would get me every time.

[22:59] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[23:00] Just show me a grandma and grandpa where the grandma dies,

[23:04] and then show me your movie,

[23:06] and I'll already be in the zone, you know what I mean?

[23:09] I mean, they already have those cool

[23:11] like anime-looking credits.

[23:12] Just have it say, remember Up?

[23:14] That happened.

[23:15] Or, like, I guess you-

[23:17] Or, you know what?

[23:18] We could just watch Up and-

[23:20] No, you don't say that

[23:21] because then nobody watches War with Grandpa.

[23:23] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[23:24] Yeah.

[23:24] You don't talk a lot about movie mashups,

[23:26] but that would be dope.

[23:28] That would be the War with Grandpa mashup.

[23:31] I was trying to push a mashup

[23:33] called Terminator 5 Short Circuit 3,

[23:36] and I couldn't get it off the ground.

[23:38] What if the War with Grandpa started, though,

[23:42] and it ran through half a reel,

[23:45] and then Robert De Niro stopped,

[23:46] turned to the camera and said,

[23:48] look, that was just for the FBI.

[23:50] Like, we're gonna show you Up?

[23:54] I read the screenplay for this.

[23:57] This is not a project you wanna watch.

[23:59] We did you a solid.

[24:00] We're gonna just sit here and watch Up again.

[24:03] We did not get permission from Disney.

[24:06] Please be cool about this, okay?

[24:08] Yeah.

[24:08] This is substitute teacher rules.

[24:10] We're gonna put on a good movie right now.

[24:11] You all cannot tell my boss-

[24:13] Just don't tell your parents.

[24:14] Don't tell the teacher when she comes back,

[24:15] but we're gonna watch the 7 Up series

[24:18] instead of what they had.

[24:20] So Peter's mulling over this idea

[24:24] of going to war with Grandpa.

[24:26] He, as we mentioned, gets chased by a bat,

[24:28] a mouse eats through his electrical cord,

[24:31] and he discovers a very large wet spot on his pillow,

[24:34] and I'm like, I think you're used to that stuff.

[24:37] I think you know where that came from.

[24:38] Now, what if he saw the bat and he goes,

[24:40] huh, grandpas are a superstitious and cowardly lot.

[24:43] I will dress as a bat, and then the rest of the movie,

[24:45] he's the same movie,

[24:46] but he's dressed as a bat the whole time.

[24:48] That would have been an improvement.

[24:49] So he issues a declaration of war

[24:51] written on a piece of paper with pretty cool penmanship.

[24:55] It's Trapper Keeper-level writing.

[24:58] Grandpa reads it and is like, what the fuck?

[25:00] He also signs it, he signs it Secret Warrior,

[25:04] and that's not set up in any way, that nickname.

[25:09] It's just, and seeing that gave me the biggest douche chills

[25:14] I think ever.

[25:16] Even though it was a fictional character doing it,

[25:18] the idea of someone signing a letter as the Secret Warrior

[25:21] just really sent a chill up my spine.

[25:23] I feel like when I was in sixth grade,

[25:25] I would have come up with a way cooler nickname.

[25:27] Well, you know it's a short step

[25:29] from this declaration of war against his grandpa

[25:31] to his YouTube videos about how we gotta march

[25:33] on the Capitol, because they're stealing our freedoms,

[25:35] and all these effeminate woke men

[25:38] are destroying the soul of our nation.

[25:40] You're like, uh, don't do that, Secret Warrior.

[25:43] Grandpa.

[25:44] So we get some scenes, this is one of many scenes

[25:47] where Grandpa has trouble handling technology.

[25:51] He just can't understand an iPad.

[25:55] Let's see, there's an older sister.

[25:58] There's some older grandpa.

[25:59] Established, sure.

[26:00] Okay, there's a scene where Rob Wriggles at work

[26:03] using his computer, and I can only assume

[26:05] he's visiting AshleyMadison.com.

[26:09] He just gives off that vibe, you know?

[26:11] There was a whole sort of like side plot

[26:15] about Rob Wriggles' job that I assume

[26:20] must have had some payoff in some version of the movie,

[26:22] but did not.

[26:23] You'd think it would.

[26:24] So he's an architect who designs big box stores,

[26:27] and he's very sad, and later on he tells Grandpa,

[26:31] the titular Grandpa that Peter is at war with,

[26:34] he tells him, oh yeah, I'm gonna enter this contest

[26:36] to design the addition to the new library,

[26:38] and that, yeah, you never find out.

[26:40] That's it.

[26:41] You never find out if he wins or not.

[26:44] It's the most heartbreaking way

[26:46] they could have told that story.

[26:48] You see this man's terrible, terrible soulless life

[26:52] that he has at home and at work.

[26:58] They definitely cut out a scene that is one hour long

[27:01] of him just sitting in his car in the driveway,

[27:04] just kind of staring into the middle distance,

[27:06] and then they show him, here's my dream,

[27:09] but then we don't, that dream is just fuel

[27:12] for the war on Grandpa.

[27:14] Yeah, yeah, there was a scene probably

[27:16] of him sitting in his car,

[27:18] eating a singular hot dog for lunch.

[27:21] I mean, knowing Rob Riggle, he's probably sitting there

[27:23] singing along to The Best of Kansas

[27:25] or something like that, you know, in the garage.

[27:28] You know Rob Riggle, it's cool.

[27:29] Yeah, I mean, I do know him,

[27:31] but here's what I'm gonna say.

[27:34] Fargo, the Coen Brothers film,

[27:35] it's a beautiful piece of work.

[27:37] It's, I think, their masterpiece.

[27:38] It's a fairly bleak movie.

[27:40] There's a lot of darkness to it.

[27:41] Even that movie tells you whether the husband

[27:43] won his duck painting postage stamp contest.

[27:47] The war with Grandpa just leaves Rob Riggle

[27:48] hanging in the lurch, nobody knows.

[27:52] Schrodinger's contest here.

[27:54] Is this the Walmart scene or Kmart,

[27:57] the Walmart-Kmart mix-up scene?

[27:58] So this scene also, like, I forget which way it goes,

[28:02] which thing he's supposed to be doing,

[28:04] but he's like- It doesn't matter.

[28:06] Yeah, he's supposed to be doing Walmart,

[28:08] but it's Kmart or vice versa.

[28:10] And then he starts sort of, like, monologuing to his boss

[28:13] about how, like, his life is stressful right now

[28:17] because his father-in-law moved in with him.

[28:19] And she sort of, like, rolls her eyes in the background.

[28:22] She just walks away. She walks.

[28:23] She's, like, immediately on the trip.

[28:25] And I, on the one hand,

[28:28] that's a rude way to end a conversation.

[28:30] On the other hand, the fact that we're supposed

[28:33] to sympathize with Rob Riggle's character here,

[28:35] where it's just like, yeah, it's a pretty big fuck-up

[28:37] if you think it's supposed to be Walmart,

[28:39] but it's Kmart, and that's what you're working on.

[28:41] Yeah, you should lose your job.

[28:42] That's a pretty, I would imagine, major account.

[28:46] Yeah.

[28:47] It's the biggest company on Earth.

[28:49] I mean, Walmart is enormous,

[28:51] and Kmart is going out of business,

[28:52] so why are they even doing work for Kmart?

[28:55] I get that four of the letters are the same.

[28:57] Yeah, are you designing Kmart's sepulcher or something?

[29:04] Okay, guys, so now we're into the good stuff.

[29:06] You know what, I was doing this for Martin Mall

[29:08] all this time, sorry, boss.

[29:11] I get my marts mixed up.

[29:13] Guys, this next scene is when things start getting sweet,

[29:15] because, of course, that's when Grandpa goes

[29:18] to hang out with his friend Jerry and Danny.

[29:20] Oh, yeah.

[29:21] Hell, yeah, Christopher Walken living his best life,

[29:23] saying Zoomer-type shit.

[29:26] Then they go for a walk together,

[29:27] and that means we get Christopher Walken, Bobby D.,

[29:30] and Cheech Marin just walking around.

[29:32] Yeah.

[29:33] Yeah, best part of the movie,

[29:34] because you just imagine that you're right there with them.

[29:36] I'm on a virtual reality headset

[29:38] that put me hanging out with those three old men.

[29:40] Love it.

[29:41] I agree that between the three of them

[29:43] and Uma Thurman and Rob Rickle,

[29:46] there's a certain charm to this movie, which is just like-

[29:48] And James Seymour.

[29:49] Oh, James Seymour, like, oh, seeing these people show up,

[29:51] I'm like, oh, it's nice to see these faces.

[29:53] Like, they don't do anything, but it's nice to see them.

[29:57] I had this thought experiment,

[29:58] because maybe my brain only-

[30:00] who works in podcast segments now,

[30:02] where I, looking at the four of them,

[30:05] I tried to figure out which one

[30:06] I'd rather hang out with for an hour.

[30:09] And it was like, and when you're having that debate,

[30:11] and it's a hard one to settle on,

[30:13] that's a good cast right there,

[30:15] but you can't say no to that.

[30:16] And I'm usually-

[30:17] Where do you all, where do you land

[30:19] in the, between Cheech Marin, Christopher Walken,

[30:22] Robert De Niro, and Jane Seymour?

[30:24] Who would you rather hang out with just for an hour?

[30:25] Oh boy, it's so hard.

[30:27] For like- Right?

[30:28] Wait, am I hosting a podcast with,

[30:30] and like, they're my guests?

[30:31] No, no, this is a casual-

[30:33] Just spending time.

[30:33] Yeah, I admire-

[30:34] Is this a one-time meeting, or are we friends?

[30:36] You just finished, you're staying at a ski resort.

[30:39] Okay.

[30:40] And you haven't done it in a while,

[30:41] and you just had like a day,

[30:43] you fell down the ice a bunch.

[30:44] Oh yeah, Dan, you've done that.

[30:45] You're sore, and you sit down in the lodge

[30:47] next to the fire, and then just up-sidles this person

[30:51] in another chair, and you're like,

[30:52] you're, holy shit, you're...

[30:54] Ugh.

[30:55] Yeah, I-

[30:56] I'm gonna pick Walken.

[30:58] Definitely Walken.

[30:59] I think my heart says Walken.

[31:00] Like, I know that like, look,

[31:02] I appreciate that he's a great actor.

[31:06] Many people think the best of his generation.

[31:08] De Niro is probably number four with a bullet,

[31:12] just because I know that he's kind of

[31:13] a taciturn, grumpy man.

[31:15] He's a standoffish, quiet guy.

[31:16] He's not gonna open a conversation,

[31:18] whereas Christopher Walken is gonna ask you,

[31:20] hey, how'd you do today?

[31:21] What's going on?

[31:22] Where'd you get those shoes?

[31:24] Hey, do you get your hair cut like that?

[31:26] Do you do it yourself, or do you go somewhere for that?

[31:28] He's like Joe Biden.

[31:28] He's just gonna ask you every question

[31:30] in the history of the world,

[31:31] and he's probably gonna laugh at everything you say,

[31:32] but not in a mean way, and like a like,

[31:34] oh, hey, yeah, I like that.

[31:35] That's good.

[31:36] Tell me another one.

[31:37] Tell me another tale.

[31:38] You know.

[31:39] I'm Cheech all day, I feel like.

[31:41] It was tough.

[31:42] That's gonna be a good time.

[31:43] That's gonna be a fun hour.

[31:45] Yeah.

[31:46] And I'm gonna say, unfortunately, I can't,

[31:48] I don't know if I could do, have Jane Seymour there,

[31:50] because like-

[31:51] You'd be too nervous.

[31:52] I cannot hang around people

[31:54] that have given me teenage boners.

[31:57] That's why I would choose Jane Seymour,

[31:59] because I feel like that's information

[32:00] she'd really want to know.

[32:01] No, she wouldn't.

[32:02] No.

[32:03] I think she would say no to that.

[32:04] Okay, maybe then I won't tell her that.

[32:05] No.

[32:06] I just think that is my secret.

[32:07] Well, then every bit of the conversation

[32:09] would be that much more special to me and spicy,

[32:11] because she doesn't know my whole secret about me.

[32:13] Oh, wow.

[32:14] Oh, man.

[32:14] At least it's a nasty boy.

[32:16] Oh, dear Lord.

[32:17] Now, here's the thing.

[32:19] I usually don't like old people say

[32:21] young people things comedy.

[32:23] I'm not a fan of any comedy where the joke is,

[32:24] I didn't expect that person

[32:25] to have that come out of their mouth,

[32:27] unless it's vomit in Stand By Me,

[32:29] in which case, hilarious.

[32:30] What about when a granny raps?

[32:33] Nope, not a fan of that.

[32:34] That's good.

[32:35] What about when a butler uses hood slang?

[32:39] Nope, not a fan.

[32:39] Don't like that.

[32:40] Don't like that.

[32:41] Or when a biker turns out to be a sensitive artistic soul,

[32:44] don't like that.

[32:45] Not a fan.

[32:46] Now, I want to say again,

[32:47] let me, actually, let me reach,

[32:48] I'm just going to say words coming out of people's mouth,

[32:49] because I do like it when unexpected things

[32:51] come out of people's mouths in the movie The Hidden,

[32:53] when that big kind of larva alien

[32:55] comes out of people's mouths.

[32:55] But not so much in Jason Goes to Hell.

[32:58] No, didn't like that as much.

[32:59] So in, but Christopher Walken,

[33:01] I shouldn't like him saying kind of like kid slang,

[33:05] but he just seems to be getting so much joy out of doing it.

[33:08] He's so giddy with every line he says.

[33:10] Did you like his stunt double

[33:12] zooming around on like a hoverboard?

[33:15] Wait, no, I don't like it,

[33:16] because I figured,

[33:17] sorry to break it to you this way, Stu.

[33:19] Wait, he wasn't doing his own stunts?

[33:22] Stuart, Stuart, it would have been in the news.

[33:27] But you would have heard of that.

[33:29] I was trying to check the credits

[33:31] to see if he was listed as having a stunt double,

[33:33] but I got distracted by all the bloops

[33:35] in the music video they played.

[33:37] Yeah.

[33:39] Okay, so Peter starts to play a series of mean pranks

[33:43] on Grandpa to try and urge him into this war.

[33:46] The first of which I would argue

[33:48] is maybe the most horrific,

[33:50] to just the most sort of like psychologically challenging.

[33:53] What, with the little car and the music?

[33:56] Oh, I was going to say the marbles.

[33:58] I thought the marbles was-

[33:59] I feel like the marbles-

[34:00] The first shot across the bow.

[34:01] Yeah, that's the true,

[34:02] yeah, that's the true initiation,

[34:03] where Robert De Niro,

[34:05] after explaining- I feel like that's when it goes

[34:06] from prank to war, yeah.

[34:07] After he explains to his granddaughter

[34:10] in a very sad way about being retired,

[34:14] he then talks about this marble collection he has

[34:17] and how meaningful it is.

[34:18] And like, he goes on and on,

[34:20] and I'm like, oh man,

[34:21] they're going way too into these marbles.

[34:22] Something bad's going to happen.

[34:24] And of course, that's right.

[34:24] It's like any time you see someone

[34:26] talking to their family on Top Chef,

[34:27] you know they're getting kicked off that episode.

[34:29] Absolutely.

[34:30] It's my birthday today, Gonzo.

[34:32] I just miss my baby so much.

[34:33] Well, don't worry, you're going to see him tomorrow.

[34:35] Yeah, yeah.

[34:37] Anyway, I'm going to make these scallops.

[34:41] Should be easy.

[34:42] Okay.

[34:43] I don't think I'll get kicked off.

[34:44] I guess I'll make, I'll do a dessert risotto.

[34:47] No, don't do it.

[34:48] No.

[34:49] No, please.

[34:51] Okay, so yeah, he spills these precious marbles

[34:54] all over the ground and also falls and hurts himself,

[34:57] which as an older man, I know that falling down sucks.

[35:01] Well, even as someone in their forties,

[35:03] it looks very painful.

[35:05] So for Robert De Niro, who's roughly in his hundreds,

[35:07] it must've been terrifying.

[35:08] Again, no stunt double.

[35:10] Yeah, no stunt double.

[35:11] I think it was when my,

[35:13] I think when my oldest son was three or four

[35:17] and wanted to learn how to do a somersault

[35:21] and he was like, show me how to do it.

[35:22] And I was like, okay.

[35:23] And I got, I assumed the position

[35:25] and then I realized that my body wouldn't allow me to do it

[35:27] because it thought it would hurt itself.

[35:29] That I realized like pratfalls,

[35:32] that would, that, you could, you could die, Robert.

[35:36] You could die very easy.

[35:38] Yeah.

[35:38] The, yeah, I feel like that reminds me

[35:41] when Charlene works with her trainer

[35:44] and her trainer shows her like,

[35:45] I want you to do this hard exercise.

[35:48] Charlene likes to be like, I don't get it.

[35:50] Can you show me again?

[35:51] And she makes you do it over and over.

[35:54] Okay.

[35:54] So yeah, so horrible prank.

[35:58] So at this point, this means war.

[36:00] That's right.

[36:01] The war with grandpa.

[36:02] So they have to, they have to draft a rules of engagement.

[36:05] They sit down and come up with a list of rules,

[36:07] which is only two things.

[36:08] And they omit a lot of actual crimes.

[36:11] Like in this war with grandpa,

[36:13] it can get seriously fucked up.

[36:15] Luckily it, spoiler alert, it doesn't.

[36:18] So.

[36:20] Now what's their position on dogs?

[36:23] On dogs pranking.

[36:24] What's their position on dogs pranking in this war?

[36:27] Wait, dogs pranking?

[36:29] Yeah, is there anything in the rule book?

[36:30] There's a specific answer that Dan's looking for.

[36:32] There's no rule a dog can play all the basketball

[36:36] in this world.

[36:37] Game seven matches wish that joke went off perfectly.

[36:41] Yeah, well, I mean, between.

[36:42] Flawless victory, finish it.

[36:45] Between talking at the same time as Elliot

[36:47] and Stuart not understanding what I was going for,

[36:50] it was.

[36:51] The thing is, I'm not very smart, okay?

[36:53] And you bring it up, makes me feel really bad.

[36:55] So go to maximumfun.org slash join

[36:58] for more of those perfectly calibrated zingers.

[37:01] I feel like if people like perfectly calibrated zingers,

[37:04] they're not listening to our podcast.

[37:06] Fair point, fair point.

[37:07] So let me turn on those sloppy boys, they say.

[37:10] Yeah, let's go to the slob house.

[37:14] Speaking of perfectly timed zingers and pranks,

[37:16] we got grandpa's record gets sped up

[37:19] and then shot out the window.

[37:21] Uh-oh.

[37:22] I don't even know how he did that.

[37:24] He would need an advanced engineering degree

[37:27] in order to swing that.

[37:28] Because what he does is he,

[37:29] it starts to play at normal speed.

[37:31] So he's like, oh yeah, I'm into this.

[37:33] Not so fast.

[37:35] I mean, well, actually the opposite.

[37:36] It goes very fast and goes out the window.

[37:38] Not so slow.

[37:39] He activates the Arduinos that he has installed

[37:43] and wired into the light switch to set light.

[37:47] They honestly should have,

[37:48] they should have cut to Peter just concentrating so hard,

[37:51] using his mind to make it spin faster and faster.

[37:55] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[37:57] He summons Star Platinum Speed Upware Remake.

[38:02] His, oh, and then of course,

[38:04] my favorite prank and yours,

[38:05] he swaps out his shaving cream with like fast,

[38:09] fast drying sealant.

[38:11] Fast drying foam sealant.

[38:13] Which I don't know, I don't know about you guys.

[38:15] I've used this stuff a lot,

[38:16] mainly to plug up holes

[38:19] so that the health department doesn't give me a,

[38:21] doesn't give me-

[38:22] Yeah, what else is one to do with foam sealant

[38:25] other than plug up holes?

[38:27] It's called sealing.

[38:28] Yeah, you're right.

[38:29] I'm just saying that I'm using it a lot.

[38:31] I don't know if you guys-

[38:32] Okay, I know, I don't-

[38:33] You're not just going around spraying it on bugs

[38:34] and then listening to them die beneath the shell of sealant.

[38:38] Now I feel like if all of a sudden,

[38:40] my ability to see has been taken from me,

[38:43] like last minute, like Zeus gets mad at me

[38:45] and just takes my eyeballs away.

[38:47] I would know, and I'm in the basement of my bar

[38:50] with foam sealant in one hand

[38:52] and shaving cream in the other.

[38:54] I feel like I would know the difference.

[38:56] Yeah, there's gotta be a difference in viscosity

[39:01] and several other sort of-

[39:03] Parameters.

[39:04] To be fair to Robert De Niro's character,

[39:07] maybe he doesn't have a lot of experience

[39:09] with foam sealant.

[39:10] He is only, as the movie has told us many times,

[39:12] a man who worked in home construction

[39:14] and built houses for his entire career.

[39:17] Is he a general contractor?

[39:19] Is he a architect?

[39:20] What's going on here?

[39:21] What do you think?

[39:22] I think, yeah, he was a contractor.

[39:23] I think he ran a construction company

[39:25] that specialized in houses.

[39:26] Or, like I said, he's a hype man.

[39:29] Anyway, you were saying?

[39:30] This is a big, beautiful movie,

[39:33] and this is a weird hill for us to get stuck on.

[39:35] It's like you just pulled out the smoking gun

[39:39] and you're like, I think he would know

[39:41] what foam sealant feels like in his hand

[39:42] because he is a contractor,

[39:45] as if contractors are just spraying foam sealant

[39:48] in their hands and rubbing it on walls

[39:49] like they're working at a barber shop.

[39:51] Yeah, like, you know what it feels like

[39:53] on their faces.

[39:54] Take the war with Grandpa away, boys.

[39:56] And then hustle the DVE into a potty wagon.

[40:00] It's a real, it's a real Encyclopedia Brown way to take down the movie.

[40:03] You would normally think, you would normally think a scene where Robert De Niro gets foam

[40:07] sealant on his face, like a little foam sealant beard, and he starts screaming and punching

[40:12] himself in the face.

[40:13] You'd think that'd be enough.

[40:15] Not so fast.

[40:16] No, no.

[40:17] Because he then turns around and his towel falls down and Rob Riggle sees his dick and

[40:20] is horrified.

[40:21] There's a lot of screaming.

[40:23] He screams like he has seen untold alien geometries.

[40:27] Yeah, it is indescribably horrible and it has driven him to the brink of madness.

[40:32] Yeah.

[40:33] It is also one of these like movie, like I'm seeing you naked situations where it's just

[40:39] a lot of cutting back and forth between two people screaming and no one thinks to just

[40:42] close the door.

[40:43] Or like, yeah, or it doesn't do what like you would expect a normal person to do to

[40:48] be like, oh, whoa.

[40:49] Sorry.

[40:50] And then like, then of course it cuts to a shot of Rob Riggle stepping into the hallway

[40:53] and he's just like thinking, he's like, wow.

[40:56] I just saw my step, my father's penis.

[40:59] Yeah.

[41:00] Do you think he was screaming because it was huge?

[41:01] Like, or?

[41:02] Oh, no.

[41:03] Because it had a face on the end of it.

[41:04] That's right.

[41:05] Close the door, buddy.

[41:06] Yeah.

[41:07] It's Brown Jenkins, but a penis.

[41:08] Yeah.

[41:09] Yeah.

[41:10] It's like the happy clown.

[41:11] Yeah.

[41:12] Brain damage.

[41:13] Mm hmm.

[41:14] Mm hmm.

[41:15] The, uh, it's, uh, here's the thing.

[41:16] If you've ever been on a vacation with your, with your in-laws, you've seen parts of them

[41:21] that you, that you didn't think you were going to see.

[41:23] No, I have.

[41:24] Actually, I have not.

[41:26] You've never, you've never, you've never been sitting around with your in-laws and they've

[41:29] just started falling out of their bathing suit.

[41:31] All right.

[41:32] No, man.

[41:33] I guess, I guess, I guess you're living a more buttoned up life than I am.

[41:38] You're not going to a Tabo Wabo cantina like LA does.

[41:41] I guess you're not going to hedonism too with your in-laws like I am.

[41:45] Oh boy.

[41:46] Like, it sounded like fun.

[41:47] I thought it was just going to be a lot of delicious food.

[41:50] Oh man.

[41:52] Uh, so, uh, at this point the war is on because grandpa rewrites Peter's homework so that

[42:00] he, when he has to go to school and read what he did for, for summer break, he just reads

[42:06] this story about farting in a bag and smelling it and at no point is he like, keep reading.

[42:12] She's like, keep reading.

[42:13] I have two issues with this.

[42:16] Okay.

[42:17] Okay.

[42:18] Counselor, the floor is yours.

[42:19] Okay.

[42:20] Sure.

[42:21] I've had situations where like a person tries to object only once and once they're shut

[42:27] down, they stop.

[42:28] Which I understand.

[42:29] I mean, look, you're a child.

[42:30] I get it.

[42:31] Maybe you're scared of your teacher, but like he, he's like, but this isn't what I, and

[42:35] she's like, read.

[42:36] And like, I think you can still get out.

[42:38] Like, this is not my thing.

[42:40] Like I, this is not, I'm sorry.

[42:42] I know that you want me to read my homework, which is, this is it.

[42:46] Like, do you know how much teachers get paid though, Dan?

[42:49] Because if I was a teacher in this, in this economy and a kid started to read something

[42:55] that their grandpa had written for them as a terrible prank, you would, you would, you

[43:03] would stop that moment from happening.

[43:05] No, you would want to, you would want to play that for sure.

[43:08] You're not going to get that opportunity again.

[43:10] You only get so many tick talkable moments in a day.

[43:14] I will give this one to the defense council for the defense of the war with grandpa.

[43:20] But the other thing is, I, you know, I know how reading works because I do it, you know,

[43:27] like I've, I've, I've read it.

[43:30] That's expert testimony.

[43:31] Sure.

[43:32] And what happens is, you know, like the words go, you know, from my eyes up to brain junction

[43:37] before I say them out loud.

[43:40] And so I think recognizing that you're talking about saving, you know, your farts in a bag,

[43:45] what are the, like, that's not the first thing he says, but whatever it is, I think he can

[43:48] maybe cut himself off.

[43:49] He talks about he farts in a bag and freezes it, which like, do you have a way of reducing

[43:55] the temperature to negative 200 degrees Celsius?

[43:58] Cause that's what we require to freeze, to freeze air.

[44:01] That's a great story.

[44:02] I like the great story, kid.

[44:04] I just realized now, like, it's good, it's great to imagine Robert De Niro sitting down

[44:08] and writing this out, licking the tip of his pencil and there's a, there's a, there's

[44:14] an episode of the show Cowboy Bebop, if anyone's familiar with it, uh, that involves a kind

[44:19] of, um, some kind of evil bearded guy.

[44:22] I can't remember if he's a robot or not.

[44:23] And there's a part where he sends an, a threatening email to the heroes of the, of the show.

[44:29] And I remember my college roommate at the time, Brian Chan, he goes, Hmm, do you think

[44:33] he had to go to the library to use one of the public computers to write that email?

[44:37] And all I could imagine was the bad guy of this show going to the library, waiting his

[44:41] turn, signing into one of the computers, logging in, having trouble with his login, needing

[44:46] help from the librarian.

[44:47] And I imagine it was kind of like that.

[44:49] Yeah.

[44:50] It's fun to, it's fun to imagine characters sitting down and doing the things that were

[44:52] not shown on screen because it would be silly to see them doing it.

[44:56] So here my notes get a little bit vague.

[44:58] Uh, it says Uma Thurman is becoming increasingly unhinged.

[45:02] Uh, the pranks continue to escalate.

[45:06] Can we talk about those?

[45:08] If we're going to glance off these, these pranks, can we at least take a moment to acknowledge

[45:13] that snake prank was a pretty fucked up thing to do?

[45:16] Yes.

[45:17] Because it sets up that one of the friend characters who doesn't really get a thing.

[45:21] No, he doesn't.

[45:22] I feel like to hang his hat on.

[45:23] Other than he is like, he is the instigator.

[45:26] He, the whole war was designed to teach you grandpa.

[45:28] Yeah.

[45:29] That's a good point.

[45:30] There's one scene where like, he's talking to him and a snake is in the background and

[45:35] one of his other friends is like, Hey, cool snake.

[45:36] And you're like, Oh, check off.

[45:38] Put that right up there where I can see it.

[45:40] Thank you.

[45:41] Uh, and sure enough, later on, the, uh, Pete goes to like a tree in the front yard and

[45:47] this kid's on the other side and he sells him his pet.

[45:51] His snake.

[45:52] He was just renting it to him, but do you think he sold it outright?

[45:55] I mean, if he was renting it to him and then he used it for a, putting it in Robert De

[46:00] Niro's bed and he wakes up and yells because there's a snake on me.

[46:05] The last time we see that snake, it is in the car with the mom.

[46:08] I forgot.

[46:09] It's draped.

[46:10] It's draped across the arms of a police officer.

[46:13] Yeah.

[46:14] The mom is in the car and throws it at the police officer.

[46:16] She previously threw her coffee that had what pepper in it or something.

[46:22] So yeah, that snake, grandpa piss has been, that's what I meant when I said escalating

[46:27] pranks.

[46:28] There's grandpa piss in everything.

[46:29] I mean, that's the message.

[46:30] As you get older, you have less control over your piss.

[46:36] Like the rest of the movie is just grandpa pees in Peter's book bag.

[46:40] Peter pees in grandpa's bed.

[46:42] Grandpa pees in Peter's bed.

[46:43] Grandpa pees in Peter's aquarium.

[46:45] Peter pees in grandpa's contact lens.

[46:47] I mean, here's the thing, like at a certain point you just run out of creative juice.

[46:52] Like that's what it is.

[46:53] Is that what you mean, Dan?

[46:54] I'm not saying in any war with grandpa, it ultimately goes down to just a peeing fight

[47:02] because look, you just can't think of anything else.

[47:04] Like it's, it's like when people come to visit New York city and they're like, what should

[47:09] we do?

[47:10] And you're like, suddenly you can't think of anything to do with them, even though you

[47:13] live in the biggest city in the, in the country.

[47:16] There's too many.

[47:17] There's too many options.

[47:18] I would have appreciated the escalation.

[47:19] I wanted to see was when, uh, one of the more, I would say fucked up things, but that's just

[47:23] because I'm a real gamer.

[47:24] That's one of them.

[47:25] That's the other.

[47:26] You wanted, you wanted Peter to swat his grandpa?

[47:28] Well, no, when grandpa, grandpa Rob, uh, Robert De Niro, uh, destroys his foe, Minecraft medieval

[47:37] kingdom, I'm not like terribly plugged into, uh, you know, what's hot on steam right now

[47:45] for PC gaming.

[47:46] I did not recognize the game in question, but that he won, went to the trouble of destroying

[47:51] his kingdom with trebuchets, uh, to get back at him, this, this foe Minecraft kingdom that

[47:56] he had been building for many years.

[47:58] Uh, and didn't just like delete it from the computer, which is another way of destroying

[48:03] digital things.

[48:04] It's funnier this way.

[48:05] It is funnier this way.

[48:07] Also the blade taps.

[48:09] Yeah.

[48:10] If Pete had been gone on a rampage, destroying all of the homes that he had built around

[48:15] town, lighting them a fire and things like that to destroy his legacy as well.

[48:20] I feel like that would have been, uh, an equal exchange.

[48:22] Well, I mean, it's not that unbelievable.

[48:24] There's a certain, any Robert De Niro movie, you know, at a certain point there's potential

[48:27] for him to go on a violent rampage of some kind.

[48:30] And so it's, it's, we're just lucky that, uh, Pete didn't, wasn't just sitting with

[48:35] his friends, hanging out, watching Disney afternoon, eating, you know, Doritos and drinking

[48:40] purple stuff.

[48:41] And then suddenly Robert De Niro comes in and just starts freeing child prostitutes

[48:45] left and right and shooting Harvey Keitel and all sorts of things.

[48:48] That's very possible.

[48:49] Yeah.

[48:50] He's done that before.

[48:51] Yeah.

[48:52] He's done it at least once before.

[48:53] So it didn't happen again.

[48:54] He did it at least once.

[48:55] I know it was almost 50 years ago, but still, I do want to point out, we had mentioned the

[48:58] previous snake prank where Robert De Niro wakes up in bed with his grandson's friend's

[49:03] snake and he is horrified.

[49:06] So he, uh, he, he does the only thing that he can, which is he jumps out the window and

[49:11] he falls off the roof.

[49:13] Of course his pants fall down and his Dick flops out.

[49:16] Terrifying.

[49:17] Yeah.

[49:18] That's the real snake you should be afraid of.

[49:19] Yeah, exactly.

[49:20] But here's the thing.

[49:22] We didn't get to see that dirty Dick, did we?

[49:24] Because there was a, there was a bush hanging in the way and not the fun kind of bush that

[49:29] you see on Robert De Niro's pubic area.

[49:31] It was a bush.

[49:32] So like Rob Riggle was screaming because he saw his grandpa whose penis was pretty well

[49:37] obscured by a bush.

[49:38] But he remembers, well, he thought that the penis turned into a bush and it terrified

[49:42] him.

[49:44] There's a witch on the loose who's changing genitals into, into topiaries and I don't

[49:48] want to follow that witch.

[49:50] Maybe, maybe at first he thought, is that what his, is that what his real pubis like

[49:55] looks like?

[49:56] And he was like, no, I just saw it like yesterday.

[49:59] And then he thinks like,

[50:00] did he grow that today? Can he do that? If he can do that, if he can grow his pubes that

[50:06] lush at will in 24 hours, that is, he is a warlock. He has set unrealistic standards

[50:13] of expectation that my wife would be disappointed by my own inability to do.

[50:18] Well, I mean, that's the thing. Do you think Regal is not so scared because he's seeing another man's

[50:21] genitals, which you've got to have seen, he's seen them in locker rooms or perhaps stadium bathrooms.

[50:26] Although at one point they say, uh, Robert De Niro goes, Arthur, you're still not,

[50:28] Artie, you're still not much of a sports guy, huh? Which was the funniest

[50:32] gag in the movie. Cause Robert is a huge sports fan.

[50:35] Or you know what, in, in pornography, like as a man who doesn't, uh, go to the gym that often,

[50:40] I'll tell you the number one place I see other dicks is, uh, is good old fashioned porn.

[50:47] Thanks for explaining that. But do you think it's less, do you think it's less the sight

[50:51] of another man's penis that's, that's bothering him and rather the sight of maybe his own future

[50:57] because someday someday someday will I be an old man with sealant on my face and my, my, my,

[51:08] my lower hair turned gray and my penis surprisingly virile and yet lonely.

[51:13] Will that be me someday? I hope. And my balls act very, very long and bat wing. Like at this point,

[51:21] my, we'll be, we'll, we'll, we'll terrify, uh, my daughter's husband. I'm assuming it's

[51:28] going to be Russell at this point. Uh, when you say bat wing, I assume the plane that Batman owns

[51:34] and that he took it to Lucious Fox. He took a picture of Robert De Niro's testicles. He said,

[51:40] but two of them make it symmetrical. Yeah. It's gotta look cool. I mean, okay. So, uh, at this

[51:47] right around now, uh, Bobby D AKA grandpa goes to the best buy equivalent, uh, cause he's gotta

[51:53] get himself a drone, which I mean, he's had trouble using an iPad. I don't know if she

[51:58] could get a drone, but of course he, and you, and that trouble that, that, that, uh, questioning

[52:02] is borne out. Stewart, your worries are borne out. But also, I mean, we'll, we'll get to it later.

[52:07] I'm sure. But part of the arc of this movie is through the war with grandpa. Grandpa learns how

[52:11] to use technology. So, I mean, I was waiting for an ending of this film where like the kid starts

[52:19] a community college course where he just tortures people into like learning how to do technology

[52:25] through pranks, but sorry, Griffin. There is a noble attempt at a redemption arc for Robert

[52:32] De Niro's character starting out as a pretty cantankerous standoffish person to being sort of

[52:38] integrated into this family. I will say this war with grandpa of that one, that goal, I would say

[52:43] you accomplished admirably. Yeah. So, uh, so at best buy, he starts flirting with a salesperson

[52:50] played by Jane Seymour, who is very game and later on goes to much, uh, goes to extreme lengths just

[52:57] to get a little bit of dick. I mean, she can't, she plays in a fucking dodge ball game just to

[53:05] get a piece. I don't know. Are you serious? I'm sure that's what she wanted. She would have no

[53:13] trouble doing it without children. You're saying Stuart, there was a scene they must have cut out

[53:20] where she is on a date with Robert De Niro and she makes a move and he says, no, no, we're not

[53:24] married. You've got to earn this shit out of my grandson. She's like anything for that thing.

[53:32] Okay. She calls up, she calls it, he goes, you, if you play in this Dodgeball match, you can have it

[53:37] all. And she calls up Rob Riggle and she's like, you've seen it. Is it worth it? Should I play in

[53:41] this Dodgeball match? And he's like, go for it. You got to. Okay. So, uh, at this point, grandpa's

[53:49] been through some rough times and he's given his family some scares. So they make him wear a life

[53:52] alert necklace. And he's like, I don't want to do this, but they make, he does it anyway. Uh,

[53:58] grandpa destroys his Minecraft castle. He said that the snake that we talked about before shows

[54:03] up in Uma Thurman's car, which she throws out the window onto a unsuspecting and very unhappy

[54:08] policeman. Uh, they decide to have some peace talks cause things are, as I've said, escalating.

[54:15] Uh, they have a mediator. That's, uh, Jenny, the Christmas obsessed, uh, like what four year old

[54:22] five year old. She's probably like, she's probably like five, maybe six. Let's say six. Let's say

[54:26] six, seven, seven, eight. I hear eight going once going twice, nine. I hear nine. No, no,

[54:34] no. So they decide they will have one final competition. And of course, the only thing

[54:39] they can do is go to the local trampoline Dodgeball zone and have a four on four Dodgeball

[54:44] match kids versus old people. So we get Christopher walking, Cheech Marin, Robert De Niro,

[54:51] Jane Seymour versus some kid actors. Uh, it's surprising. It ends up in a tie. There's some

[54:57] flips. Kids get hit in the nuts. It's great. Yeah. This goes on for so long that you expect

[55:03] it to be the climax of the war and to have some sort of resolution to it. It does not.

[55:08] It is there to eat up. God, that would have been a, that would have been a fun movie though. If

[55:12] it had ended with a real Dodgeball game that would have had big sort of, uh, late eighties

[55:17] made for TV, ABC family vibes. All right. Dodgeball game. I'll move out of the house.

[55:23] And if you win this Dodgeball game, I'll stop being a kid. All right. And they shake hands on

[55:27] it and De Niro wins. So Peter magically turns into a grownup and goes out and gets a job in

[55:32] a department. Yeah. He goes any, but he enlists and he goes, he tragically dies in the real,

[55:38] in the real world. I went from the war with grandpa to the war against ISIS. They were,

[55:42] I wasn't prepared. I tried to stop them with pranks. I am a recent trampoline, uh,

[55:50] acquirer. I'm new to the, to the scene. Uh, and I, man, I love the thing, but I am in,

[55:56] I would say of average health, uh, at 30, 35. And, uh, I can make it about five minutes,

[56:04] uh, jumping on trampoline before I am just sort of, uh, completely exhausted.

[56:09] You know, not enough, you know, it's all in the, I found the secret, the secret of my family.

[56:13] Cause my kids always want me to jump on the trampoline with them. Cause we have one. Also,

[56:16] the secret is if I sing at the top of my lungs, both, I can last longer jumping and my kids want

[56:22] to jump less long. So it helps me both ways. Yeah. That's convenient since that's just your

[56:28] default sort of what you're normally, that's really what you're normally doing when you,

[56:33] when you got a hammer, everything looks like a nail, every situation. I'm like,

[56:36] what am I saying? Real loud. When we came out to LA for Elliot's 40th, the, the house that,

[56:42] um, Daniel got for the weekend, like the, like the rental had a trampoline

[56:50] enclosure. And I likewise remember getting in there like early one morning before

[56:56] other people were up and about, I'm like, Oh, look, there's a trampoline over here.

[56:59] And I jumped on it for, I think maybe 30 seconds. So I'm like, well, that's, that's enough of that.

[57:04] I get the idea. I go up. It activates about 700,000 muscles to jump that high.

[57:11] When I was in my twenties at one point, I was like, you know what? I've heard,

[57:15] I've heard that if you, uh, jump rope, it's pretty good exercise. So I'll try it.

[57:19] When I was a kid, I could jump rope all day long. So I tried it and like five seconds in,

[57:24] I'm like, I want to die. Yeah. It made me feel like I did this a lot for jump rope for heart,

[57:29] which was the thing that we did at our school for a long time. And then I was like, was I supposed

[57:33] to keep, was that something I needed to upkeep my capacity for what's wrong with my heart?

[57:39] Because it makes me feel like if I can't jump rope very good now, my heart must be pretty bad.

[57:44] Yeah. Pretty bad. I mean, it says something that the only people that I ever see jumping rope are

[57:48] little girls and professional boxers. They're the only adults I ever see jumping rope and they jump

[57:53] rope a lot. So it seems like it's, and their job is to get punched in the head or punch other guys

[57:57] in the head as hard as possible. Professional boxers are the guys who on social media, there

[58:01] will be videos of like a random person, like shadow boxing or playing around with them.

[58:06] And you see this man who was massive move faster than any human should ever move. Yeah. Yeah. Now,

[58:13] before we leave the dodgeball scene, I want to say one thing. Can you guess?

[58:18] Flophouse cohost and Flophouse guest. Can you guess which cast member in this scene I have

[58:23] worked with? It's probably not one of those weird little kids. Not one of the kids. Although one

[58:29] of the kids, the kid who plays Steve, the dumb friend, I was like, where do I know him from?

[58:33] He's on the TV show Odd Squad, one of my kids' favorite shows. So it's the dodgeball scene.

[58:38] It's one of the, it's just the dodgeball scene. There's someone in that scene that I have worked

[58:42] with. It's, is it the guy who works at the place? You're right. You're exactly right. It's the

[58:47] referee who's played by Clayton English, a standup that I worked with on a sports comedy show that

[58:52] never aired. So, so it'd be, but, uh, I was very excited to see him. If I knew that Elliot,

[58:59] you should have, you should have left the country because that means that I am a turbo stalker.

[59:04] Oh, that's the guy that you were in the thing that never aired.

[59:06] That's true. That would have been too much. Oh, you were the, you were the one, he,

[59:09] he was the guy who is in that pitch pilot you wrote that got picked up for a TV show on True

[59:13] TV and then True TV canceled it before you started writing the show. I'd be like, yeah,

[59:18] yeah. That's how'd you know all that? How'd you know? Oh, no reason. No reason.

[59:21] No reason at all. And then you take off your mask and you'd be him.

[59:25] Yeah. I enjoyed that story better than I enjoyed war.

[59:33] So, uh, the war continues to escalate. Grandpa decides to cool things out by taking Peter

[59:39] fishing in a threatening manner and they get chased by a park ranger. Dan, you have a lot

[59:45] of thoughts about being chased by park rangers, don't you? Is this your toss to me to do another

[59:53] max one drive break? Yes, it is.

[1:00:00] On that case, let me take a moment to tell everyone

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[1:07:01] Well said, Dan.

[1:07:03] But Stuart, we should probably get back

[1:07:04] to the war with Graham Tyler.

[1:07:06] What's going on in that war?

[1:07:07] Well, there was a fucking crazy park ranger chase.

[1:07:09] And the only answer, of course,

[1:07:11] is for grandpa to take Peter to some houses he built

[1:07:13] and talk about how he hides things within the walls.

[1:07:17] And how everyone does that.

[1:07:20] And that in your home,

[1:07:22] there's, it's, it's, it was on some,

[1:07:25] it was real, like,

[1:07:27] it had real Junji Ito, like, horror vibes of just like,

[1:07:31] yes, look at that chair.

[1:07:33] Yes, the chair maker is in the chair.

[1:07:36] He is watching you grow up.

[1:07:37] Well, what he's saying is that he puts pictures

[1:07:39] of his, him and his wife and all the houses he built.

[1:07:41] So it's, it's not, it's not as creepy as that,

[1:07:43] but it, yeah, it's a little creepy.

[1:07:45] It's up, it's up there.

[1:07:47] I mean, it's, it's,

[1:07:47] it's pretty creepy. It's creepier

[1:07:48] than putting nothing in the walls,

[1:07:49] which is what I would want.

[1:07:50] We haven't really talked about this,

[1:07:52] but who is the audience for war with grandpa?

[1:07:54] Because if it's children,

[1:07:55] what they're basically saying is,

[1:07:56] hey, kids, start destroying your house.

[1:07:58] Yeah.

[1:07:59] Start destroying your houses.

[1:08:01] Destroying your elders. Look for signs.

[1:08:03] I hate, I hate to break it.

[1:08:04] I hate to break it to you.

[1:08:06] What I like about it is they're giving kids a purpose

[1:08:07] for the destruction of the house

[1:08:09] that they are already embarked on.

[1:08:10] Because if a kid,

[1:08:12] I don't remember this part of being a child,

[1:08:14] but apparently children will occasionally

[1:08:17] just look at a thing and say,

[1:08:19] hmm, I wonder what that would look like if it was broken.

[1:08:21] And then they'll just walk over and they'll just break it.

[1:08:24] And then they'll say, hmm, that was satisfying.

[1:08:26] What else can I break in this place?

[1:08:28] And they just go about it.

[1:08:29] It's part of the scientific method though.

[1:08:31] They have a hypothesis that, you know,

[1:08:33] it'll look a certain way if it's broken

[1:08:34] and then they have to test that hypothesis.

[1:08:36] Yeah, give them space, you know?

[1:08:38] Yeah.

[1:08:38] It's hard, but it's the right thing to do.

[1:08:43] I think that this movie is not made for young people.

[1:08:46] And you don't need much more evidence than that

[1:08:48] than the fact that Pete comes off

[1:08:50] as a really big piece of shit.

[1:08:54] Because if we are not characterizing this well enough

[1:08:57] to the people who have not watched the movie

[1:08:59] War with Grandpa,

[1:09:01] it is a thoroughly uneven contest.

[1:09:05] In that, like, Pete will come in

[1:09:06] and destroy his collection of precious marbles

[1:09:09] that he has taken from the, you know,

[1:09:12] concrete of every home he's ever built

[1:09:14] and then spill them down a drain, never to be seen again.

[1:09:18] And then Robert De Niro's character will come in

[1:09:21] and like make him read a doo-doo paper.

[1:09:24] Like those two things are not even remotely equivalent.

[1:09:28] Yeah, Pete will take Robert De Niro back in time

[1:09:31] to watch the car crash that killed his wife.

[1:09:33] Right, yes.

[1:09:34] And say that he can change the past.

[1:09:37] He has the power, but he refuses to.

[1:09:39] He saves it.

[1:09:40] He saves it for Minecraft.

[1:09:42] Robert De Niro's like, I glued your backpack shut.

[1:09:44] What do you think about that?

[1:09:45] And Pete's like, well, I put a microwave under your bed

[1:09:47] to make the pacemaker stop working in your body.

[1:09:53] So, at one, at like, after showing Peter these houses,

[1:09:58] there's a moment where you're like,

[1:10:00] man maybe they're friends it's all a ruse the war is still on don't worry there's more movie to go

[1:10:04] folks uh so really the war involves the scene where robert de niro molests a corpse then i

[1:10:12] think we're okay oh we're okay peter stands up to his bully uh and he gets beaten up for it

[1:10:18] then there's a funeral prank where where he drops his phone as at this point we know he's not to be

[1:10:24] trusted with with any kind of technology doesn't matter he throws his phone down the pants of a

[1:10:29] corpse and then we have some serious like jackass level corpse shenanigans uh there's no one in the

[1:10:36] funeral no one at the funeral does anything they just stare at open mouth horror and she's like

[1:10:43] is that she does faint you would you would expect maybe the dead man's son to come over

[1:10:47] and say hey could you please stop your hands off my dad's body stop jerking one of my dad's uh legs

[1:10:54] upwards like you're trying to pump it like like a well i don't know about you guys i've been to a

[1:11:00] few funerals i kind of wish that they had more shenanigans yeah of course you know you got a

[1:11:07] light in the mood what's wrong with funerals am i right they're so uh so depressing uh so

[1:11:14] i want at my funeral i want there to be also be a screening of the war with them

[1:11:18] yeah and then when that scene comes up people are gonna like look at each other like should we go

[1:11:22] like are we supposed to do that was this the was this a clue is this some sort of map

[1:11:28] yeah and the funeral home director will point to a sign that says do not touch the body

[1:11:34] yeah and then like my someone's gonna make my grandson go and like close the casket and he'll

[1:11:39] see my dick yeah and he'll just scream and scream and scream and scream yeah and also the sign that

[1:11:46] says do not touch the body is slightly misspelled so people think is that the clue yeah it's yeah

[1:11:54] i just decided and actually i'm gonna go ahead and say i'll get a notary public to sign this

[1:11:59] podcast tomorrow but this represents a living will i want a war with grandpa funeral this is a leak

[1:12:06] this is a legally binding podcast i want to have a war with grandpa themed funeral please

[1:12:12] please trampolines everywhere i want every tree to fall over on me

[1:12:17] you're already contractually out

[1:12:20] cheech baron who will sadly out

[1:12:28] yes don't for cheech don't for his future

[1:12:32] so they you want to make loose in the funeral

[1:12:36] okay

[1:12:38] a bully gets come up

[1:12:42] uh they're they discuss the ceasefire during jenny's christmas themed birthday

[1:12:47] uh then the old dogs which is my term for the old men throw the bully in the garbage can uh

[1:12:55] there's a surprising number of uh of similarities between this and the adam project the movie we

[1:13:00] last watched which also called the kid who is an a-hole and a bully being uh threatened by an

[1:13:06] older person and this bully is young granted but the degree to which he's threatened by these

[1:13:12] three elderly men is surprising to me i don't know i mean they do like christopher walken

[1:13:18] come gives like i don't know like he's he can be scary i mean i would be scared to the sense

[1:13:23] of like what the hell is happening why are three elderly men menacing me wearing their caps

[1:13:29] backwards and wearing hoodies but then like tossing him into the dumpster seems i don't know

[1:13:34] anyway i think the thing is he looked like he wanted to go yeah yeah it's one of those scenarios

[1:13:42] where where the frightening thing about it is how you know you can fight back but you also can't

[1:13:46] because you don't want to hurt the other person it's like anytime spider-man is up against flash

[1:13:51] thompson he's like i gotta pull my punches the wrong punch i could kill flash and so he's got

[1:13:55] it he has to let flash bully him or else everyone's gonna know he's spider-man's that's why i think

[1:14:00] the bully in this is spider-man yeah it's me havoc if i use my powers i'll kill that brood

[1:14:05] thing and that would suck uh even though it's a brood thing he should whatever

[1:14:09] i'm ball's like i'm invulnerable as long as i'm blasting

[1:14:14] any more x-men quotes you got i can't touch you i'll show up your memories

[1:14:19] it's great i love it

[1:14:22] yeah charge up these guards throw them when they explode

[1:14:29] i'm the best there is getting claws in my hands let's do the fastball special

[1:14:35] i'm from the future and i got an m on my face all these famous quotes

[1:14:43] okay it's me marrow from the 90s x-men remember me that was her catch look at me

[1:14:49] i got a big hole in my middle booth i'm somewhere else

[1:14:56] hey from teen which

[1:15:00] sorry okay and after i texted with you about teen wolf just recently this week yeah what was it that

[1:15:06] you found out that the teen wolf house is on your block or something no not on my block but that i

[1:15:11] was doc's elliot yeah i live very close to a a shooting location from teen wolf let's leave it

[1:15:17] at that you live inside that you live inside the van that they serve

[1:15:25] alex feel free to bleep you know a couple random words just to confuse uh the audience okay uh

[1:15:32] so we are at the real climax of the movie that's right the uh the dance scene from the movie

[1:15:38] climax no uh there is a there is a christmas theme birthday party uh they go all out everybody's

[1:15:46] dressed up like christmasy shit this is a modern family level party by which i mean it looks like

[1:15:52] only a production company could put that is what i wanted to say 150 000 party exactly minimum yeah

[1:15:59] uh and uh you know everybody every single character that has been in this movie excluding

[1:16:05] the police officer who had the snake thrown on him arrive at this party uh christopher walken

[1:16:10] is dressed as santa and he's saying weird ass ship the whole time it's terrifying uh walken's

[1:16:15] character i think is in late stage dementia by the end of the movie like the things he says doesn't

[1:16:19] make sense i mean he just he just lost a friend i mean you should feel bad for him um so he's

[1:16:24] dressed up as santa and he's sitting on a booby-trapped chair so we have a ticking time bomb

[1:16:28] uh frank start to get out of control uh it ruins the birthday christmas party and then

[1:16:34] the tree that we had talked about previously needing to be cut down

[1:16:38] falls down on its own tearing off a chunk of the house now here's so this that both characters are

[1:16:45] so convinced that they're about to be pranked that it leads them into situations where they

[1:16:49] do the wrong thing and it causes prank like effects yeah yeah yeah that's yeah there's a

[1:16:55] there's a lesson there and then let's go mess with grandpa what do you guys think about calvinism

[1:17:01] let's really dive into that

[1:17:05] predestination or uh you want to i was actually i was i i was thinking about this not too long

[1:17:10] ago the idea that what what a dick move for calvin to be like hey it doesn't matter what you do in

[1:17:15] life god decided the moment you were born who was going to be saved and i'm one of them i'm saved

[1:17:21] and you're not it's like wait a minute and everyone was like i guess he's right and it's

[1:17:25] like how is that why is that why he's always peeing on logos of brands yeah yeah he can do

[1:17:30] whatever he wants he's going to heaven anyway calvin said it himself god put him on earth to

[1:17:34] do a certain number of things and he's taking so long he'll never get he'll never die like it's it's

[1:17:39] easy calvin is is has a very comfortable relationship with god stew did you uh mentioned

[1:17:44] that when the hole is ripped in the house it is revealed that uh the daughter is up with the

[1:17:49] boyfriend that i didn't mention it but it's true and it drives no reason and mad yeah uh which you

[1:17:56] know for me somebody who grew up watching you know like late night sex comedies having somebody

[1:18:03] stand up shocked when a chunk of a wall gets ripped down uh that that's cool that takes me back

[1:18:10] normally there's topless people but luckily there's no topless people this because we're

[1:18:13] talking about underage people about the war grandpa underage people i mean grandpa's topless

[1:18:20] bottom i am i am shocked that the tree didn't rip grandpa's pants down

[1:18:26] everybody faints his ghost comes out his head catches fire like in the green back into his body

[1:18:38] okay so i think everybody starts pulling down their pants in solidarity to show

[1:18:42] that they also stand with grandpa oh i'm spartacus yeah at this point we can all agree that the

[1:18:47] pranks have gotten out of control right uh so by the way the the boy rigged up the boy rigged an

[1:18:58] ejector seat yeah oh he was gonna kill his own grandfather there's no it would have absolutely

[1:19:03] it would have undoubtedly killed his grandfather but like does he work for fucking the mission

[1:19:11] impossible team like where does he get these wonderful toys did he steal the airbag from his

[1:19:17] parents car yeah he by the end of the movie he is yes a psychotic mastermind yeah yeah he's he and

[1:19:28] that's why this is the prequel to the song movies yeah that's jake saw as a kid yeah oh man like

[1:19:32] kevin muscat and oh fuck what i'm trying to say kevin mccallister and i fucked it up to him and

[1:19:39] you started saying david miscavige who was a different person

[1:19:46] we've made a lot of home alone comparisons to this podcast and i want to make it abundantly

[1:19:50] clear that this film would be like in home alone if uncle frank permanently moved in with the

[1:19:57] family and then kevin mccallister tried to kill him

[1:20:00] whole family with micromachines and broken glass and paint cans and bricks and a blowtorch at one

[1:20:08] point. We've been mentioning Home Alone quite a bit and I think we need to make it clear that

[1:20:14] Home Alone is way better of a movie. Oh sure. We watched Home Alone not that long ago with my

[1:20:22] older son and he was really enjoying it until Daniel Stern stepped on those nails and then

[1:20:27] that was a point where he was like, too much. Don't like, don't like. A little gnarly.

[1:20:32] Yeah, it's like the eyeball scene in Zombie. Is that the movie?

[1:20:41] Everything's fun and games in Zombie. I mean, there's a zombie versus shark fight.

[1:20:48] When I was watching Zombie with my older son, he also was totally cool with it until the eyeball

[1:20:52] scene. Yeah, that was it. Too much, he said, too much. No, thank you. He was totally with

[1:20:59] Suspiria until that last part. Then he said, no, I can't handle it. Yeah, I'm tapping out here,

[1:21:06] Dad. An explosion of blood for like 20 minutes with the new one? Yeah, they're watching the new

[1:21:11] one, of course, because he's really into it. He's a big fan of the way that Luca Guadagnino

[1:21:16] just creates these worlds that feel very tactile. My older son, he loved Call Me By Your Name so

[1:21:21] much that he was like, I want to see everything he does. That's the thing. He was like, a bigger

[1:21:25] splash is really cool because I love the way that Rafe Bunn's character is just like exactly

[1:21:30] captures that specific type of baby boomer who's obsessed with the Rolling Stones.

[1:21:37] So he's got a lot of content. Grandpa gets confronted by Sally, his daughter, and she's

[1:21:42] like, I've had it up to here with all these pranks. And he's like, you knew about that?

[1:21:46] That's like no shit. Everybody knows about it. Everything was exploding for a while.

[1:21:53] It's the same. It's the same way. I think old men and kids, it's the same way where they assume

[1:21:57] they're getting everything by their parents. Their parents are aware of every single thing that

[1:22:01] they're doing. Then like when you're like a 13 year old boy and you're like, nobody knows I'm

[1:22:06] masturbating in here. It's like everyone knows. The dog knows. The mailman knows. Like everyone's

[1:22:12] yeah. So she goes to Sally, goes to tell her to tell her family that grandpa has survived his

[1:22:20] injuries and just falls on him. And he's just sitting there in hospital with an

[1:22:25] ice pack on his knee. Like, it's amazing. That's quite a scrape you've got there.

[1:22:30] So in your heart and your liver and lungs and ribs and spine.

[1:22:38] Oh, when I said scrape, I meant you're dead. What did I say?

[1:22:41] Did I neglect to tell you that this healthy body you're seeing is a holographic projection

[1:22:46] that we've created? Yeah. Anyway, it's lucky. It's lucky that after that tree

[1:22:50] landed on you, your friend dressed as Santa Claus was killed by your grandson. So we could

[1:22:54] sew your head to his body. That was the thing. When Christopher Walken gets up and walks away,

[1:23:00] I'm like, is this like when the weasels ghosts leave their bodies and Roger Rabbit?

[1:23:05] So it was a great, great Santa Claus day. Yeah, but I can only do it once.

[1:23:13] So Sally is telling her family the news when she sees out the window that Russell,

[1:23:18] her daughter's boyfriend, has showed up and she fucking loses it.

[1:23:24] How dare he go to visit her grandfather in the hospital? What a bad boy.

[1:23:29] Yeah, she cannot handle this. So she chases him around what seems to be his convertible.

[1:23:35] And that's the point when I lost any sympathy for him because I'm like a teenage boy should not be

[1:23:39] able to drive this car. And then she she chases him around the car for a while and then she

[1:23:45] reveals that she has a secret tactic. That's right. She just climbs over the car and then

[1:23:50] tackles a teenage boy to the ground before saying, you know what?

[1:23:54] Should we mention she's dressed as Mrs. Claus this whole time also?

[1:23:57] Yeah, I guess that I guess that relates. Yeah, just it just adds to the to the

[1:24:01] strangeness of this of the moment and the erotic frisson of being beaten up by

[1:24:08] I mean, that's the other thing, though, is is any is, you know, even if she is her here is

[1:24:13] his girlfriend's mom to be jumped on by Uma Thurman dressed in it as Mrs. Claus is I'm sure

[1:24:18] some teen kid's fantasy. Yeah. Yeah. So instead of, I guess, killing him or beating him up,

[1:24:24] she decides, no, I'm going to forgive this floppy haired beau and for nothing, for nothing,

[1:24:30] for existing and earning the affection of her daughter. He is allowed to enter my daughter's

[1:24:35] life. She doesn't want to lose her daughter over this turd or cool dude. I don't know.

[1:24:40] We don't know anything about him. And then when they go back, they've been distracted.

[1:24:46] I feel like Russell showing up. I feel like Grandpa texted Russell to show up so we would

[1:24:50] distract them so that Grandpa could sneak away for a minute. Yeah. To like move all his shit out

[1:24:57] like he moves very fast for an old man. Yeah, he sure does. So he's moved all his shit out and then

[1:25:03] he's just hanging around a house he built. They track him down, convince him to stay. And he's

[1:25:09] like, OK, I'll stay anyway. He agrees to stay. And then but he can't hang out with his grandson

[1:25:15] because he has a date with Jane Seymour. And Peter's like, oh, it looks like a war with

[1:25:21] grandma. And that's the end of the movie that I will. Think about the last shot of this,

[1:25:27] I know, every day until the day of the omen is when the movie stops being the war with

[1:25:34] grandpa and becomes we have to talk about Kevin like this movie. The look on that kid's face is

[1:25:39] pure satanic, sociopathic. He's so, so angry, like ready for violence. You know,

[1:25:47] have you guys have you guys had have you guys I know you've been doing the podcast a lot. You

[1:25:51] turn a lot of content. Have you have you been able to do the we have to talk about Kevin?

[1:25:59] Have you done that joke yet? No, no, no. That joke. Have you done that yet? Yeah. OK,

[1:26:05] well, you can use that guy next time. Next time. Next time that pops up, you just use that.

[1:26:10] You don't even have to credit me. We'll do a job. So we get some bloops. We get a music video where

[1:26:19] the cast sing a song. I at that point, I assume they're all Disney Channel kids, but I the older

[1:26:27] the the older daughter sings a cover of war. What is it good for? Because this is when the movie

[1:26:32] has its has its message that war is not good. Yeah, but it looks pretty fucking fun. I mean,

[1:26:39] I don't know. I think it's probably snakes, multiple Robert De Niro dicks. Yeah,

[1:26:46] it is a mixed message at best. Now, would you when you say what you mean multiple times that

[1:26:50] Robert De Niro's dick is seen now that he has multiple dicks, although maybe that's what

[1:26:54] horrified Rob Riggle so much. I was like two or three. It was two as we all know it in his name.

[1:26:59] Yeah. Yeah. Guys, it would be amazing. What if what if Alan Tudyk was descended from like a

[1:27:05] medieval sideshow performer who had to be? This is an old like this was an old fucking we've done

[1:27:12] this before. Mine was like, oh, we're like, you know, his ancestors were, of course, Glover's and

[1:27:20] Jessica Fletcher, you know, but and then Alan Tudyk, two dicks. So, guys, do you want to go

[1:27:26] back? I like that you threw a fictional character in there. I just couldn't think of. I don't think

[1:27:29] that was in the. Do you want to go back and start talking about more with Grandpa? Oh, yeah. Sure.

[1:27:35] Yeah. Let's. So traditionally, and today is no exception, we do where we decide where we give

[1:27:46] our opinions on whether this was a good, bad movie, a movie that's enjoyable to watch because

[1:27:51] it's bad, a bad, bad movie, a movie that lacks value or a movie that we liked, you know, a movie

[1:27:58] that will stick up for in some way. I'm going to kick us off by saying very brave. This movie,

[1:28:08] well, among other things, like there's like this weird. Bad message of a lot of sort of

[1:28:16] family, quote, friendly movies like this. This movie is the sort of movie that like

[1:28:23] people would be like, oh, you know, this is fun for the whole family. It's good to have a good

[1:28:27] old fashioned movie where there's nothing offensive about it. And I watch movies often in that,

[1:28:33] you know, like genus of type of film. And I'm like, no, this is full of terrible messages.

[1:28:39] Give me another example. I'm not going to. This is full of terrible messages like

[1:28:44] request your information. Rejected children and grandparents should fight. Or I mean, more more.

[1:28:51] So like, you know, a lot of these family movies, I don't have a specific example,

[1:28:55] Stuart, but like they do have like regressive sort of viewpoints, like a boy teen should be,

[1:29:03] you know, hated for crime of dating girl who wants to date this boy, like who has her own

[1:29:11] autonomy and like just like the idea of like we have to protect this. I mean, like obviously at

[1:29:15] the end, Uma Thurman changes her mind on that, but it's played for laughs throughout the whole

[1:29:20] movie. Like, you know, you know how it is. We all agree, right, that we want to control our

[1:29:26] children's lives. And and none of them are good. None of them are good role models. Yes. Any of

[1:29:32] the characters in this film. So that part sucks. And also, if we have done our job well as

[1:29:36] podcasters, this movie sounded fun in some way, enjoyably strange. And it is strange to dissect

[1:29:45] with with with pals. But I would say that this movie. Slid off my brain faster than almost

[1:29:54] anything, like in the course of watching it, I am like, if you want to lose time.

[1:30:00] If you want to experience what a blackout is like,

[1:30:02] you're like, why is it 90 minutes later than it was before?

[1:30:06] Oh, I watched War with Grandpa and I've forgotten all of it.

[1:30:11] I'll say bad, bad.

[1:30:12] It's grounding to me to have this experience

[1:30:15] to talk about this movie with you all

[1:30:17] because I have not been in the best head space.

[1:30:20] Like today, I'm tired

[1:30:22] and there's a lot of stressful stuff going on.

[1:30:24] And I watched this movie while I was like watching my baby

[1:30:30] and I can do both, get off my back.

[1:30:32] And I can have it all, you know?

[1:30:35] And then, and it ended and I did feel like,

[1:30:40] did I enter, did I watch that?

[1:30:43] Did I enter a few scenes and watch it?

[1:30:45] And like the thing, it was the Rob Riggle storyline

[1:30:49] not having any kind of-

[1:30:52] You're like, well, if this was a movie I didn't imagine,

[1:30:54] they would have concluded that in some way.

[1:30:56] That was like what gas lit me a little bit

[1:30:59] where I was like, no joke,

[1:31:00] did I really pay attention to this movie?

[1:31:03] Or did I, at some point, just like really black out

[1:31:06] and miss the resolution of that storyline?

[1:31:08] And-

[1:31:10] Movies have setups and payoffs, surely.

[1:31:12] Right, of course.

[1:31:14] Yeah, every once in a while

[1:31:15] when we're watching a movie for the Flophouse,

[1:31:17] I'll accidentally get stuck scrolling on my phone

[1:31:20] instead of watching the movie.

[1:31:21] And a little bit, this felt like that.

[1:31:23] You know, I feel like the thing is this movie,

[1:31:26] it makes you, all the characters are kind of terrible

[1:31:29] and it makes you immediately sympathize

[1:31:31] with the grandpa character.

[1:31:33] Although the thing is, you know that guy voted for Trump,

[1:31:35] so that's the real reason

[1:31:37] you should have had a war with grandpa.

[1:31:39] So I'm gonna say bad, bad movie.

[1:31:41] Okay, good, can't argue with that logic.

[1:31:44] Elliot?

[1:31:44] Guys, I'm gonna be in the minority here.

[1:31:46] I think it's just because I've been exposed

[1:31:47] to a lot of kids entertainment I don't like.

[1:31:50] I'm gonna call this, not a movie that I liked,

[1:31:53] but a movie that if my kids wanted to sit and watch it

[1:31:56] and it meant that I could sit and read a book

[1:31:57] while they were doing that, I'd say, go ahead.

[1:32:00] Fine, let's watch the war with grandpa.

[1:32:00] Yeah, even though it has a pro war on your elders message.

[1:32:04] Yeah, enjoy your shattered vertebrae.

[1:32:07] I mean, I don't appreciate the way they went about that war,

[1:32:10] but to be honest, I think a certain amount

[1:32:12] of generational friction is good for growing people

[1:32:16] and also good for the world.

[1:32:17] And so, I'm gonna say-

[1:32:18] Work for Zeus.

[1:32:20] And so, I'm gonna say it is a movie that I kind of liked

[1:32:26] for my kids to watch to give me some time to sit and read

[1:32:30] and I can finally finish this big book

[1:32:31] of Doris Lessing short stories

[1:32:33] that I've been making my way through.

[1:32:34] So, it's a new category.

[1:32:37] It doesn't exactly fit our categories.

[1:32:39] Distractions so I can read Lessing.

[1:32:41] But as a point, we've seen plenty of children's movies

[1:32:45] where I was like, no, I don't want my children to see this.

[1:32:47] But here, it was like, you know what, this is fine.

[1:32:50] Yeah, Solo, et cetera.

[1:32:51] Yeah.

[1:32:52] I'm gonna-

[1:32:53] Yeah, The Devils, sure.

[1:32:55] It's not a film I will ever watch again,

[1:32:57] but I also came into it from the unique position

[1:33:01] of having recorded a whole episode about it

[1:33:04] before I saw it.

[1:33:06] And so, for me, it was the manifestation of the film

[1:33:11] that I found so delightful all throughout

[1:33:13] where I was like, the more outrageous shit happened in it,

[1:33:18] the more I felt good and justified

[1:33:21] in our original sort of discussion of the film.

[1:33:25] And that was a really fulfilling experience for me.

[1:33:29] So, I had a good time watching it, but I won't ever again.

[1:33:33] And most people else on earth won't do that the first time,

[1:33:38] won't get that experience the first time.

[1:33:39] So, if you happen to be a listener,

[1:33:42] Griffin or one of his two brothers.

[1:33:44] Yeah.

[1:33:45] Yes.

[1:33:46] Yeah.

[1:33:46] I don't know, I listen to a lot of movie podcasts

[1:33:49] where they watch the movie.

[1:33:50] I participate in a movie podcast

[1:33:53] where they watch one movie the wrong way, right?

[1:33:55] I would not want that to be this movie,

[1:33:58] not because it is bad, but because I don't wanna question

[1:34:02] whether or not I am slipping through my life

[1:34:05] and these handful of fugue states.

[1:34:08] As you know, we've been talking about the Max Fun Drive.

[1:34:13] This year's Pledge Drive to fund

[1:34:16] the Maximum Fun Podcasting Network.

[1:34:18] And I would like to take this moment to just personally say

[1:34:22] what the show has meant to me.

[1:34:24] Like we talk about what it means to the listeners.

[1:34:27] I wanna say the show has meant a lot to me.

[1:34:30] And I'd like to tell you about it

[1:34:32] because we all come at it from different perspectives.

[1:34:36] You know, the flop house at this point

[1:34:37] is 100% a joint effort between the three of us.

[1:34:40] It started out as a notion that I had

[1:34:44] and it was really like something that like,

[1:34:47] I never knew would become what it is.

[1:34:50] I was 29 years old.

[1:34:52] I was about to enter my 30s.

[1:34:54] Full of beans.

[1:34:55] Well, no, I was not full of beans.

[1:34:57] I was about to enter my 30s.

[1:34:59] I've been trying to make it in comedy in New York City.

[1:35:01] Empty of beans.

[1:35:02] Empty of beans, no more beans to be had.

[1:35:04] Beanless.

[1:35:05] I was looking for a way to make a living.

[1:35:07] I was looking for a way to make a living.

[1:35:10] I was looking for a way to have my voice heard.

[1:35:12] And I also, of course, loved hanging out with Stuart,

[1:35:15] one of my funniest friends, watching dumb movies.

[1:35:18] And I was like, let's put this podcast out in the world.

[1:35:21] And I had met Elliot, who came onto the show.

[1:35:25] He's just a joke machine.

[1:35:27] He loves the same dumb things.

[1:35:28] I thought, here's our permanent third co-host.

[1:35:33] And look, when this started out, as I said,

[1:35:37] I was trying to make my voice heard in the comedy world.

[1:35:40] And I certainly had hopes for the show.

[1:35:42] But it has succeeded so far beyond my dreams

[1:35:45] and reached so many people who have found it meaningful

[1:35:47] and said such nice things about it

[1:35:50] in ways that I am honestly not emotionally able to cope with

[1:35:55] because my heart would explode.

[1:35:57] The show has been a significant part of my adult life.

[1:35:59] It's been with me through six apartments.

[1:36:02] It's outlasted friendships and romantic relationships.

[1:36:06] It's outlasted my-

[1:36:07] Why did you look at me when you said friendships, Dan?

[1:36:09] It's outlasted-

[1:36:10] Why did you look at me

[1:36:11] when you said romantic relationships?

[1:36:13] It's outlasted my decade at The Daily Show.

[1:36:16] Yeah, it's crazy.

[1:36:18] When having this podcast was a necessary outlet

[1:36:21] when I had to write jokes for someone else.

[1:36:23] But I knew that I could always make the jokes

[1:36:25] I really enjoyed on my silly podcast.

[1:36:28] And for the past year, it's been the primary thing,

[1:36:30] keeping a roof over my head and food on my table.

[1:36:32] And it's been with me through some hard times

[1:36:35] where no matter what else was true,

[1:36:37] I knew I'd be meeting up with my two best friends every week

[1:36:40] and we'd try to make each other laugh for a couple of hours.

[1:36:44] And though, you know, Stuart and Elliot's interruptions

[1:36:49] have kept me from getting emotional

[1:36:51] when I was writing out the notes for this, I did cry.

[1:36:54] And so I'm not saying that your continued financial support

[1:36:57] is responsible for the health

[1:37:00] of my friendship with Elliot and Stuart,

[1:37:03] but I'm not not saying that-

[1:37:05] You wanna risk it?

[1:37:05] Let's strongly imply that.

[1:37:06] Yes.

[1:37:07] Let's strongly imply we are friends for pay.

[1:37:09] Yeah, anyway, that's what the show means to me.

[1:37:11] But I wanna read a listener comment.

[1:37:14] And this one is from Tyler, last name withheld.

[1:37:17] He writes, dear Flophouse,

[1:37:19] we all know that the pandemic hasn't been easy on any of us,

[1:37:22] but it has been especially rough

[1:37:24] on those already suffering through mental health issues.

[1:37:27] You guys have reinvigorated my love,

[1:37:29] not just for bad movies, but movies in general

[1:37:32] that have been waning over the past few years.

[1:37:35] My obsession with movies means that I have never met

[1:37:38] a person who could beat me in six degrees of Kevin Bacon.

[1:37:42] So crazy I am for movies

[1:37:43] that I left my unlimited plan active

[1:37:46] the entire time the theaters were closed.

[1:37:49] Each of you individually has given me inspiration

[1:37:51] I needed to better myself through difficult circumstances.

[1:37:55] Elliot gave me the courage to start writing comedy again.

[1:37:59] Stuart gave me the push to get back in the gym

[1:38:02] and Dan has given me the confidence to deal

[1:38:04] with my depression and to move past my acts

[1:38:06] and pursue new things.

[1:38:08] Thank you so much to my favorite bad movie podcast

[1:38:10] who has systematically ripped apart

[1:38:12] some of my favorite movies.

[1:38:14] I love you guys with much gratitude,

[1:38:17] Tyler, last name withheld.

[1:38:19] That's so nice.

[1:38:20] That's very nice.

[1:38:21] Yeah, glad we could be there for you

[1:38:23] and you could be there for us.

[1:38:24] Thank you to all the listeners.

[1:38:28] I wasn't paying that close attention to these say,

[1:38:30] thank you, Dan, for giving him courage

[1:38:32] to have a really cool beard.

[1:38:33] Yeah.

[1:38:36] Like Riker, he said.

[1:38:37] This, so this break has already gone a little long

[1:38:42] but I do wanna highlight quickly the official Max Fund

[1:38:46] thank you gifts for donors.

[1:38:47] We've talked about what we as a show we're doing

[1:38:50] but the official gifts at $5 a month or more

[1:38:53] you get all that bonus content I mentioned

[1:38:55] including this year's Flophouse content,

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[1:39:06] or more, you get a really beautiful patch.

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[1:39:15] Ours is the Flophouse house cat.

[1:39:18] It's designed to look like he's bursting right out

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[1:39:23] He came to visit us, it's been a long time.

[1:39:25] Yeah.

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[1:39:30] or more level, you can choose the Max Fund creativity pack.

[1:39:36] This is where artists and Max Fundster, Ellen Vander Mead

[1:39:40] illustrated a beautiful deck of 54 inspiration cards

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[1:39:47] from your favorite hosts or your pals at Max Fund.

[1:39:50] It's designed to inspire you to enjoy friends,

[1:39:54] nature, food, making art, all kinds of stuff.

[1:39:59] The kit comes also.

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[1:40:25] There's a lot of other gifts at even higher levels.

[1:40:31] I hope you were as delighted listeners at home

[1:40:33] as I was at Dan's delight,

[1:40:35] as though at the way he put that.

[1:40:38] There are higher levels.

[1:40:41] If you're curious,

[1:40:43] all of this is at the maximumfun.org website.

[1:40:48] You can see the thank you gifts.

[1:40:52] You can check them all out there.

[1:40:53] But for now, I'm just going to ask,

[1:40:56] will you please join us as a member?

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[1:41:03] Choose what shows you like

[1:41:04] and what you think you can afford

[1:41:05] to make sure they keep going strong.

[1:41:07] And thank you for the support.

[1:41:09] So we did a letter as part of our MaxFun drive.

[1:41:21] I don't know, spiel.

[1:41:22] I'll use the word spiel.

[1:41:24] So-

[1:41:24] Sure, you're Jewish.

[1:41:25] You can use that word.

[1:41:26] Thank you, Ali.

[1:41:27] I'm not offended.

[1:41:29] So that's going to serve as our letters for this episode,

[1:41:34] but we do want to move on to make recommendations

[1:41:39] of a movie that we saw often recently,

[1:41:43] sometimes not, that we like,

[1:41:45] that maybe is a better use of your time than Warth Grandpa.

[1:41:49] I'll kick us off and say that I've already told this story

[1:41:54] to the Flophouse crew, but I was scrolling through.

[1:42:00] We were looking for a romantic comedy to watch

[1:42:03] the other night, and I tweeted like a joke

[1:42:07] about like looking for something,

[1:42:08] not being able to find it, whatever.

[1:42:10] And-

[1:42:11] Sounds like a great joke.

[1:42:13] You can look it up.

[1:42:15] I don't, you know, I'm not,

[1:42:17] I'm only giving away for free on,

[1:42:19] Elon Musk's Twitter.

[1:42:21] Oh, boy.

[1:42:23] You guys hear about that?

[1:42:25] You hear this thing that's terrible?

[1:42:27] Anyway, this unrelated joke,

[1:42:31] unrelated joke, but the actress Molly C. Quinn

[1:42:36] tweeted at me saying, watch Agnes,

[1:42:39] which is a movie that she is the star of.

[1:42:42] And it was such an unusual occurrence

[1:42:45] to have someone personally tweet at me

[1:42:48] to advocate their movie.

[1:42:50] Yeah, directed by Mickey Reese.

[1:42:51] Yeah, it's not a romantic comedy.

[1:42:54] That was just what I happened to be tweeting about.

[1:42:57] It is a-

[1:42:58] Oh, what a twist.

[1:42:59] It starts out as a horror movie and then becomes,

[1:43:04] I don't know, kind of a philosophical-

[1:43:07] Romantic comedy.

[1:43:08] Exploration of what it is to live in the world

[1:43:12] and how to do so.

[1:43:16] I really enjoyed it.

[1:43:17] And, you know, which is, I guess it's a lesson

[1:43:20] if any other movie actors want to personally advocate

[1:43:24] their movie to me, I'll probably watch it.

[1:43:27] But this one-

[1:43:28] So easy way to get your film recommended on the podcast.

[1:43:31] Well, not always recommended.

[1:43:32] You know, I could have not said anything about it,

[1:43:34] but I'm recommending it because I genuinely enjoyed it.

[1:43:39] It is a movie that rewards not knowing

[1:43:44] where it's going to go.

[1:43:45] So I'm not gonna say too much about it.

[1:43:48] But I also think that it probably,

[1:43:53] you know, some reviews I've read of it,

[1:43:56] it suffered for the person expecting one kind of movie

[1:44:01] and being angry when their expectations were confounded.

[1:44:05] I usually enjoy it when I'm surprised by a movie,

[1:44:08] but I also understand when people are like,

[1:44:10] this is not what I was signing up for.

[1:44:14] So if you want a straightforward exorcism

[1:44:17] slash non-horror film, this is not that.

[1:44:23] But we've had plenty of those.

[1:44:25] Go to that section of the video store.

[1:44:27] I mean, don't pretend like there's not a non-horror out there.

[1:44:31] That's true.

[1:44:32] Fair point, fair point, fair point.

[1:44:33] But anyway, Agnes was interesting.

[1:44:37] It's got more in its mind than you might think

[1:44:41] from the, I don't know, little plot synopsis

[1:44:43] you see on streaming or whatever.

[1:44:46] But Stuart, what do you got?

[1:44:47] Yeah, I think that's the case

[1:44:48] with a lot of Mickey Reese movies.

[1:44:49] Nice guy, drank in my bar one time.

[1:44:51] Okay, so I am going to recommend,

[1:44:54] to kind of stick with this theme

[1:44:56] of like generational conflict,

[1:44:58] I'm gonna recommend the movie, Come On, Come On,

[1:45:01] starring Joaquin Phoenix and a little kid from England

[1:45:04] who does a very good American accent.

[1:45:07] It also has Gabby Hoffman, who plays his sister.

[1:45:10] And it's about a childless podcaster

[1:45:13] who takes his sister's son under his wing

[1:45:18] for a little while while she deals

[1:45:21] with her emotionally challenged husband

[1:45:27] played by Scoot McNary.

[1:45:29] Now, this is gonna be a little bit of a teaser

[1:45:31] because in an upcoming mini,

[1:45:33] we're gonna be playing a game that I'm hosting

[1:45:36] called Skeet Scoot Scare It,

[1:45:39] where you have to decide whether it is

[1:45:41] a Skeet Ulrich, Scoot McNary, or Tom Skerritt movie.

[1:45:46] I don't wanna tip my hand too much

[1:45:47] because there will be a bonus round

[1:45:49] that cost me quite a bit of money, time,

[1:45:51] and I think my marriage.

[1:45:53] The scat bonus round where you have to determine

[1:45:56] if it's a Skeet scat, a Scoot scat, or a Skerritt scat.

[1:46:00] And I'll show you a picture of somebody's shit.

[1:46:03] Okay, I was wondering what kind of scat you're getting at.

[1:46:07] No, it's not like he's beatboxing or something.

[1:46:10] That's what I wondered, yeah.

[1:46:12] So yeah, come on, come on.

[1:46:14] You took us on a real journey.

[1:46:19] Yeah, my legs are tired and sore.

[1:46:22] I honestly, partway through,

[1:46:24] I kind of forgot it was a movie recommendation.

[1:46:30] I'm gonna quickly recommend a movie

[1:46:31] from the end of last year.

[1:46:33] This is a movie that's available on Netflix,

[1:46:35] which is an online streaming service for film

[1:46:38] that you may have heard of.

[1:46:39] They're having a hard time right now,

[1:46:40] so why not go and watch some of their movies?

[1:46:42] Yeah, take advantage of that membership

[1:46:45] before they try and charge you more.

[1:46:47] This is a movie called The Harder They Fall,

[1:46:50] which is a Western starring an enormously fantastic cast.

[1:46:55] Jonathan Majors is in it, Idris Elba's in it,

[1:46:57] Zazie Beetz is in it, Regina King's in it,

[1:46:58] Zora Linda's in it, Lakeith Stanfield's in it,

[1:47:00] a lot of other great people.

[1:47:02] Jonathan Majors is so fucking jacked.

[1:47:06] It's crazy.

[1:47:06] They put him in movies and they cast him as a nerd,

[1:47:08] and I'm like, this is unfair.

[1:47:10] I had trouble in Lovecraft Country,

[1:47:12] where he's like, I love reading these books.

[1:47:14] I was like, I could probably do Jonathan Majors.

[1:47:14] They take the shirt off and you're like,

[1:47:16] what is going on?

[1:47:17] Your arms are enormous.

[1:47:18] Yeah, he gained all that arm muscle

[1:47:20] from lifting those heavy books.

[1:47:23] And this is, it is not a, it's a Western,

[1:47:25] but it is not a historical Western,

[1:47:27] even though the characters are kind of named

[1:47:29] after real life people.

[1:47:32] But it felt like someone is doing

[1:47:34] a modern day spaghetti Western

[1:47:36] with an almost entirely all black cast,

[1:47:38] and the music in it is great,

[1:47:40] and it looks great,

[1:47:41] and there's a lot of really fun action scenes.

[1:47:43] It's the kind of movie,

[1:47:44] it's not gonna change the way you think about the West

[1:47:47] or even make you think about the West,

[1:47:49] but it is a fun collection

[1:47:51] of kind of suspense and action scenes,

[1:47:53] and I really like the style of it,

[1:47:55] and I liked the soundtrack a lot.

[1:47:57] So that's The Harder They Fall,

[1:47:59] not to be confused with the old movie,

[1:48:01] The Harder They Fall,

[1:48:03] which is completely different.

[1:48:04] Don't get confused with that one.

[1:48:05] Yeah, okay.

[1:48:06] That's a movie about boxing,

[1:48:07] where probably someone jumps rope.

[1:48:09] Anyway, Griffin?

[1:48:09] Or Don't Get Confused With The Harder They Come,

[1:48:11] which is a movie about reggae music, basically.

[1:48:15] Yeah, well that's got a different title, so.

[1:48:16] Or A Hard Day's Night.

[1:48:18] Yeah.

[1:48:19] Yeah, or RoboCop.

[1:48:21] Or RoboCop.

[1:48:22] Or The Hard Way, which is a movie

[1:48:24] where Michael J. Fox is an actor who does.

[1:48:27] That's what that movie's about, I think.

[1:48:29] A ride along with.

[1:48:31] Or the thing that they play at the beginning of movies,

[1:48:33] where they encourage you to go get snacks from the.

[1:48:36] Or the thing where Nicole Kidman says

[1:48:38] that this is a place where heartbreak feels okay.

[1:48:41] Those aren't movies,

[1:48:42] that's just, they're in a movie theater.

[1:48:44] I challenge that, I think it's a movie, Dan.

[1:48:46] Yeah, a short film.

[1:48:49] Griffin?

[1:48:50] I don't, I do not watch a ton of film,

[1:48:55] even children's films,

[1:48:56] because my son is on that YouTube Kids tip now.

[1:49:01] I watch a lot of.

[1:49:03] Unboxing stuff.

[1:49:03] Ranking of SpongeBob clips,

[1:49:08] and a lot of extremely fit,

[1:49:13] like 20-somethings doing backflips

[1:49:15] into pools they filled with shaving cream

[1:49:18] inside their house or some shit.

[1:49:20] Just a lot of property damage style stuff.

[1:49:23] This is something, I recently spent some time

[1:49:25] with my niece and nephew,

[1:49:25] who I hadn't seen for a long time,

[1:49:26] and my kids do not spend any time on YouTube.

[1:49:29] The only time they watch things on an iPad

[1:49:31] is to watch baseball highlights on websites.

[1:49:34] And my niece and nephew,

[1:49:37] they would just sit in front of YouTube.

[1:49:38] Your brother is listening to this episode,

[1:49:40] and he just cried.

[1:49:41] Yeah, he did, he cried in sheer joy.

[1:49:43] But they would just sit on YouTube,

[1:49:45] and it's just like, yeah, whatever plays,

[1:49:47] they're gonna watch it.

[1:49:48] And it would get to the point where

[1:49:50] they'd start with an educational song,

[1:49:52] and then four videos in, I was like,

[1:49:54] what is this, what country is this from?

[1:49:56] Is this Alex Jones?

[1:49:59] Ah.

[1:50:00] But I Rachel and I did have have like a day where our schedules were pretty open and so we

[1:50:07] During for a lunch date. We went to see everything everywhere all at once and it's like man

[1:50:12] That's it. That's it. I'm sure that has been recommended many a time on this on this podcast

[1:50:20] So great, yeah, it's it's we don't always have the same

[1:50:26] Like I don't know kinds of media that we enjoy especially fiction

[1:50:33] Like I always I always kind of feel that pressure of like is this something I loved that

[1:50:38] Is this something that like Rachel is also going to be?

[1:50:41] As as into and like walking out of that we both looked at each other like that

[1:50:45] That's one of the best movies I've ever that's one of the best movies I've ever seen

[1:50:49] I wanted I want to walk turn around and walk right back into that that film

[1:50:52] Which like considering the fact that movies don't really have a place in my

[1:50:58] Routine right now is yeah really saying something and I've written I've recommended it to like all of my family who are kind of in

[1:51:05] the same boat that I am and it's it's they've they have not done it either but our

[1:51:10] But Paul from Paul and storm who said our tour manager and goes on tour this mentioned something about it

[1:51:16] I pulled him into the dressing room like we got a fucking talk about this movie. I have nobody. Yeah

[1:51:21] It's what it's one of those movies and it's a really special film and I'm just crazy about it. Yeah. No, that's a good one

[1:51:28] So watch those movies not this one. Come on. I saw still Sonic 2. Yeah

[1:51:35] It was a fun. It was fun. Yeah

[1:51:39] It was the Alamo Draft House lost my fucking son's

[1:51:43] Chicken tinder order and that was a hold. Yeah, that's my whole day at that point. It was hard to enjoy

[1:51:50] Knuckles and Sonic like patching it up and being friends and collecting the chaos emeralds where my son's like Tommy hunky

[1:51:56] Now was your son?

[1:51:59] nervous that

[1:52:01] Sonic and Knuckles were not friends at least on the poster of the movie that they're like

[1:52:06] Shouldn't they be friends and was he nervous? Yeah

[1:52:13] If they're not friends, how are they gonna have a baby together? Yeah

[1:52:16] Yeah, he asked me all those questions and

[1:52:27] Every dad has it. Um

[1:52:29] Let's say it's like when I took when I took my older son to see spider-man no way home and he kept saying which spider-man

[1:52:34] is Andrew Jackson

[1:52:39] Different presidential last name. Yeah

[1:52:41] Pretty good though close enough. I mean similar politics. Let's move

[1:52:50] Podcast train to the station. I'm gonna give just a quick final pitch

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[1:54:28] The cue to say thank you to Griffin for taking the time out of his busy life of being a

[1:54:35] Very great podcaster having his own shows having two children and a family to deal with

[1:54:42] Griffin, thank you to deal with

[1:54:48] Look at the sense of how hard it is to carve out time, you know, like it's I mean, it's 1130

[1:54:55] Everybody in my house is unconscious. You're this is this is

[1:54:59] Yeah, I'll be tired tomorrow, but you're not keeping

[1:55:03] Anything more. I worry sort of life-affirming. I mean if you point out that I'm childless

[1:55:07] It's like that's the key thing

[1:55:09] It is just like I never know whether I'm bothering someone who has a family or not

[1:55:15] Like that is what the key bothering someone. I'm not worried about I never know whether you're fathering someone

[1:55:20] I never know if I'm bothering someone. How does how does it work guys?

[1:55:24] You guys are fathers tell me y'all yelp when it happens

[1:55:28] Changes that changes everything dead

[1:55:31] But check out the mini podcast that Griffin is on on the max fund network itself

[1:55:37] Is there anything specific you want to plug or just you know the same? I mean this latest season of

[1:55:43] Adventure zone called ether see we've been doing it

[1:55:45] We're like we've been doing it for a while now, and I'm having a lot of fun doing it if you like

[1:55:51] sort of deep-sea

[1:55:53] Sci-fi fantasy, there's probably not a lot of that out there

[1:55:58] Yeah

[1:56:00] West fan cast is is done. So yeah, exactly

[1:56:04] that's the only reference that we ever get that an earth see because the titles kind of look the same but

[1:56:10] Yeah, give it give it a listen

[1:56:12] Well, thank you for oh and my dad wrote a children's book Wow here occupying your time

[1:56:18] Yeah, and it's it's very very cute. What's the

[1:56:22] It's called Goldie's guide to grandchilding

[1:56:24] We haven't we you know since because of kovat many travel plans and Christmases have been sort of waylaid

[1:56:31] so we actually hadn't like

[1:56:33] Seen dad in a while until this last year that we had on the weekend and just you know

[1:56:36] he got to read his new book to his kids and it was

[1:56:40] Delightful time and

[1:56:42] Recreate that with your own kids by buying the book. Yeah, if you want grandchild based, you know entertainment get that

[1:56:49] So yeah movie that said of this. Yeah this one and this one comes out May 10th, though

[1:56:53] Which you like you'll have to wait for it while war with grandpa is out and available on Apple TV

[1:56:58] For $3.99. So in that department war with grandpa does beat. Yeah, I guess why not both or if you're like a little kid

[1:57:05] That already has a Showtime subscription so you could watch all the shameless you could ever watch

[1:57:10] Macy yeah, you're a little kid who fucking loves billions. What if that show in this movie switch time?

[1:57:16] I think you go a little something like this

[1:57:19] All right. Well

[1:57:21] Before we go. Thanks as always to Alex Smith our producer. You can find him at

[1:57:26] How old dottie on Twitter you can probably figure out what that is

[1:57:32] Put the smallest amount of effort. Thank you Alex

[1:57:36] for making us

[1:57:38] Sound good and for putting up with

[1:57:41] Putting up with recommendations to check you out that sound like this one. Thank you so much

[1:57:47] For the flop house. I've been Dan McCoy. I've been Stuart Wellington. I've been Ellie Kalen

[1:57:53] I've been Griffin McElroy. Boom. We did it

[1:57:57] boom boom

[1:58:03] We are going to say our names and then you should say your name, yeah

[1:58:08] wait for

[1:58:14] I'm spinning a lot of fucking plates right now. And the last thing I need is to learn more podcast structure. Yeah

[1:58:22] Fine, we'll point to you

[1:58:26] And I say and I'm grambo

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Ep. #368 - The War with Grandpa, with Griffin McElroy

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