Gabby's Dollhouse: The Movie

Stuart Wellington

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss Gabby's Dollhouse, the movie.

[0:05] Welcome to Flophouse Junior, where kids rule and parents drool and homework is strictly off the menu.

[0:12] Because why prepare for a future when climate change and economic collapse will not allow you to have one?

Dan McCoy

[0:18] Sobering. Sobering intro.

Stuart Wellington

[0:20] It started fun, though.

[0:30] Hey, everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy.

Elliott Kalan

[0:48] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[0:50] I'm Elliot Kalin, writer of the new comic book Barbarian Behind Bars from Mad Cave Studios.

Stuart Wellington

[0:54] I bought the last one they had at Forbidden Planet, Elliot. Congratulations.

[0:58] Thank you.

[0:58] A sellout.

[0:59] A sellout.

Elliott Kalan

[1:00] How many copies did they buy to begin with at Forbidden Planet?

[1:02] Let's not get into those numbers.

Stuart Wellington

[1:04] I don't get to look at their books.

[1:06] The important thing is it's sold out.

Dan McCoy

[1:08] Already pre-ordered the eventual trade, since, as you know, I'm not an issues man.

[1:14] You're not a floppy guy?

[1:15] You do have a lot of issues, though.

[1:16] I do have so many issues.

[1:20] That's why I'm not trying to get any new ones, you know?

Elliott Kalan

[1:23] Yeah, but from what I've heard, Dan is not a floppy guy, if you know what I mean.

Stuart Wellington

[1:27] He is one of the hosts of the Flophouse.

[1:30] That's true.

[1:30] Oh, you're right.

[1:30] Maybe he is a floppy guy.

Dan McCoy

[1:32] Oh, and I don't even know what I meant.

[1:34] Well, since none of us know what any of us mean, maybe we should move on to the meat of this show.

[1:40] This is a podcast where we watch a movie that was either a critical or a commercial flop, and we talk about it.

Elliott Kalan

[1:47] Or that just looks like it would be silly to talk about.

Dan McCoy

[1:50] Yeah, yeah.

[1:51] You might think, why are three grown men talking about Gabby's Dollhouse, the movie?

Stuart Wellington

[1:55] I felt that way when I was sitting at home watching it by myself.

[1:59] Right.

[2:00] Sitting at home watching it by myself with the sing-along mode enabled.

Elliott Kalan

[2:05] Rarely have I watched something where it has been so clear from almost moment one, this is not for me.

Dan McCoy

[2:12] Not for us.

[2:13] It's not meant for me.

[2:13] Yeah.

[2:14] Anything we have to say about it is not really a consumer advocacy or like we're not giving any information to people.

[2:22] It's not valid.

[2:22] It's just for LARFs.

[2:25] And that was the thing about, I heard that this movie was nutty, and that was why I was kind of interested in checking it out.

[2:31] And it's not a point on the nuttiness factor.

Elliott Kalan

[2:33] It was just processed in a facility that handles nuts.

[2:36] That's what they meant.

[2:37] It's actually not that nutty.

Dan McCoy

[2:39] And before we get into it, I think Stuart has the unenviable role of explaining this movie.

Elliott Kalan

[2:45] There are a few times, actually, having said that, when I watched it, I was like, this is not for me.

[2:48] There are a few times I've watched a Flophouse movie that I've been more glad I am not on the phone.

[2:53] Because this movie was like as if I was behind a pane of glass and someone was just throwing brightly colored balls at it.

[3:00] None of the balls reached me.

[3:01] They just bounced off the glass.

[3:02] That was this movie.

[3:03] I was like, I'm like, how can I?

[3:04] I can't even keep track of this.

Stuart Wellington

[3:06] Never before have I felt more like Pecos Bill trying to lasso a twister and riding around as the movie kept shaking my attempts off.

Dan McCoy

[3:15] Yeah.

[3:15] But before we start, I just wanted to say, from what I know, which is very little because I'm a childless man, but what I've been able to glean is this is, of course, the—

Elliott Kalan

[3:23] And also America's educational system has failed you.

[3:26] Sure.

[3:26] That's why you've got very little.

Dan McCoy

[3:27] They didn't teach me anything about Gabby's dollhouse.

[3:30] No.

[3:31] From what I've been able to glean—

[3:32] And you majored in dollhouse studies.

[3:34] Oh, this is the movie version of a long-running children's television show that is in the sort of blues clues area of interactive, you know, like the person in charge tells the kid at home, like, oh, you know, now we sing this thing.

[3:53] Or like, or can you see where that is?

[3:55] Or that sort of thing.

Stuart Wellington

[3:56] Yeah, yeah, for a second I thought I was watching a fucking Deadpool, right, guys?

Dan McCoy

[4:01] It was twisted in that inimitable Deadpool way.

Elliott Kalan

[4:05] So this is—so according to Wikipedia, the Gabby's dollhouse show that has had 13 seasons with 86 episodes.

[4:12] But it's like, how do you divide 86 by 13 to get season quarters?

[4:17] It's impossible.

[4:18] I don't understand it.

[4:18] I don't get it.

[4:19] And don't write in to tell me how.

[4:21] I want to live with the mystery.

Stuart Wellington

[4:23] So, guys—

[4:23] Was there like a truncated writer's strike season like Breaking Bad?

Elliott Kalan

[4:26] I guarantee you this show is not a writer's guild show.

[4:29] As a children's animated show on Netflix, I guarantee you that they have hung as much garlic as they need to keep the writer's guild vampires away from the show.

[4:38] And I am a writer's guild vampire.

[4:39] Vampires are cool.

[4:40] I mean it as a positive thing, you know.

Dan McCoy

[4:42] I mean, you know, I mean, I'm sure this is a very—like, modern TV shows, like, season counts mean nothing anymore.

[4:50] They're all over the place.

[4:51] But you're right.

[4:52] That's true.

[4:52] Those two numbers do not go into one another.

[4:54] It's 6.615384, et cetera.

Elliott Kalan

[4:59] Look at Calculator Dan over there doing that math.

[5:01] Oh, man.

Stuart Wellington

[5:02] Yeah.

[5:02] Regular old Marty Supreme over there.

[5:04] Yeah, all of a sudden his eyes start flickering like he's a mentat or something.

[5:08] Yeah, I did it all in my head.

[5:11] Okay.

[5:12] You guys want to get into this adventure?

[5:15] Let's take it.

[5:15] You guys ready to go to Cat Francisco?

[5:17] Let's go to Cat Francisco.

[5:19] Okay.

Elliott Kalan

[5:19] This is one of the funny things about this movie is that there's a magical fantasy world of the cat dollhouse, but the real world is also pretty cat-centric.

[5:26] It's incredibly cat-centric.

Dan McCoy

[5:28] And at the end, you know, not to skip directly to the end, but-

[5:31] The final shot of the movie.

[5:32] Let's do it.

[5:32] Short episode.

[5:33] Finish it up.

Stuart Wellington

[5:34] When Cat, we see a lonely graveyard.

[5:36] Cat is making a new dollhouse.

[5:37] It says R.I.P.

[5:38] Cats.

[5:39] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[5:39] For her coming little sister, and it's dog-themed.

[5:44] I'm like, wait, are dogs allowed in this world?

[5:46] Yeah.

[5:46] That's the thing.

Stuart Wellington

[5:47] That's like the biggest flip.

[5:48] That's the Avengers initiative in the movie.

Elliott Kalan

[5:50] Well, in their culture, when you give someone a dog-themed gift, that's a way of saying you're going to die.

[5:54] You know, it's like giving them a fish wrapped in newspaper or something like that.

Stuart Wellington

[5:57] Yeah.

[5:57] It's a death note.

[5:59] Okay, so the movie opens.

[6:01] It opens on Gigi, I guess newly grandma Gigi, who is a crafter, and she is building a-

[6:10] Oh, yeah.

[6:10] Go on.

[6:11] No, no, no.

[6:11] Sorry.

[6:12] She's building a dollhouse, a cat-themed dollhouse, this beautiful dollhouse filled with tiny little figurines as a gift to her granddaughter, Gabby.

[6:23] And who plays Gigi?

[6:26] Elliot, why don't you answer your own question instead of asking me something?

Elliott Kalan

[6:29] It's Gloria Estefan, of course.

[6:30] I was briefly very excited to see Gloria Estefan in here, but then she doesn't really sing in the movie.

[6:37] So I was like, all right, well, that's disappointing.

Stuart Wellington

[6:38] I cannot realize that.

[6:40] Oh, wow.

[6:41] Okay, so in addition to gifting her granddaughter this dollhouse, she also gives her a pair of magical cat ears, like a magical cat ear headband, and a stuffed doll of a cat named Pandy.

[6:56] And these are magic, and we learned that utilizing these two instruments, these two fetters, allows her to transform herself into a tiny little animated version of herself and into the dollhouse where all these

[7:10] magical cat dolls come to life.

[7:13] So Gigi is some sort of witch figure?

[7:16] A brouhaha, I believe, in their culture.

[7:18] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[7:19] And the Pandy is a familiar of a sort.

Stuart Wellington

[7:21] Yes, exactly.

[7:23] So before we get into the meat of the story.

Elliott Kalan

[7:25] It's quite a brouhaha that gets caused by Chums Lake when he shows up.

Stuart Wellington

[7:30] Bruhaha?

[7:30] As soon as, yeah, as soon as we start playing around with magic.

[7:33] Now, before we get into it, let's meet the Gabby cats, why don't we?

[7:37] Because this is, you know, we have met some all-star lineups in our day.

[7:41] But I think this might take the cake.

[7:43] So, of course, we have cakey.

[7:45] We need a real introduction here.

Elliott Kalan

[7:47] Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.

[7:50] Ladies and gentlemen, you're 2025.

[7:53] Because that's when the movie came out.

[7:55] Gabby cats.

[7:56] Take it away, Stuart.

[7:58] Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

[7:59] First we got Pandy Paws.

Stuart Wellington

[8:01] Pandy Paws is the stuffed doll that is also, by squeezing Pandy's paw, allows them to become animated and exist within the dollhouse world.

[8:13] Pandy is kind of like her, is kind of her all-purpose sidekick.

[8:17] Then we have Cakey.

Dan McCoy

[8:19] Dan, what does Cakey look like?

[8:21] Cakey looks like a little cupcake.

[8:24] But if a cupcake had like 15% cat.

Elliott Kalan

[8:29] There are a couple lines that Cakey has where for a moment I thought that friend of the show Jenny Jaffe was doing the voice.

[8:35] But it was not to be.

Stuart Wellington

[8:36] Was it when Cakey accidentally burned her little human-like buttocks?

[8:41] And said Cakey got bakey or something like that?

Elliott Kalan

[8:44] And also, I was like, it's not really a joke.

[8:48] Like, I don't really know what that is.

[8:50] But I ain't mad at it.

[8:52] That's true.

[8:53] Let's hear some more cats.

Stuart Wellington

[8:55] Okay, we got Murcat.

[8:57] Murcat is, of course, a half-cat, half-fish, mermaid-type creature.

[9:03] Then we got my favorite, probably your favorite as well.

[9:06] That's right, Cat Rat.

[9:07] Oh, yeah.

[9:08] Cat Rat is kind of like a cat and a rat, but mainly just like a dirty old cat.

Elliott Kalan

[9:12] He reminded me a lot of the cat from the Cats movie who introduces all the other cats,

[9:17] but he never actually says his name in the movie.

[9:19] What was his name?

[9:21] Mofungo or something like that?

Dan McCoy

[9:23] Oh, God.

[9:25] So, that's not Mr. Mustafa.

[9:27] What am I doing?

[9:27] Taking a bite with a different guest?

Elliott Kalan

[9:28] Is it Mombolina?

[9:30] Bombolina.

[9:31] Was it Humongous?

[9:32] Was that it?

[9:32] It's not Skimble Shanks.

[9:33] Anyway, it's not important.

[9:34] Stuart, we've got more cats.

Stuart Wellington

[9:37] Okay, so we got DJ Catnip.

[9:40] DJ Catnip, who's like a cat who also has these long springy legs.

[9:44] Yep.

[9:44] We have Baby Box.

[9:46] Dan, what does Baby Box look like?

[9:48] A box.

[9:49] Like a baby cat, like a Happy Meal for a head.

[9:53] We have Carlita.

[9:55] Of course, Carlita is a car and a cat.

[9:58] Wow.

[9:58] You may remember her from the Al Pacino movie Carlita's Way?

[10:00] Very different movie.

[10:01] Yeah.

[10:02] Interesting role for a car cat.

[10:03] And she's also the cousin of the cat bus from Totoro.

[10:07] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[10:08] Monk strap.

[10:09] Monk strap.

[10:10] Monk strap.

[10:10] Thank you.

[10:11] Which is what a monk uses to hold his testicles when he's doing athletics.

[10:14] Continue, Stuart, with the cats.

Stuart Wellington

[10:17] Yeah.

[10:18] Normally, you would think he would just toss him over his shoulder, but nope, he has the

[10:21] worst to use a strap.

[10:22] Like a continental soldier.

[10:23] Yeah.

[10:23] Uh-huh.

[10:23] Then we got Pillow Cat.

[10:26] Dan, do you remember Pillow Cat?

Dan McCoy

[10:27] I swear, I have to admit, the cats kind of merged into a cat chorus.

Stuart Wellington

[10:33] Me neither.

[10:33] I'm not a big Pillow Cat fan, but that's right.

[10:35] You can't, you know, there's always-

[10:37] You can't all be winners.

[10:37] Yeah, there's a top and a bottom.

Elliott Kalan

[10:38] I think compared to the talking pillow in Oogie Loves, Pillow Cat was a dud.

Stuart Wellington

[10:44] And then we have, of course, Kitty Fairy, which is a kitty that's also a fairy.

[10:50] And while that is all of our Gabby Cats, I do, though not technically a Gabby Cat, I do

[10:56] have to give an extra shout out for a character who will show up later in the movie, and that's

[11:00] Cookie Bobby, who is some kind of cookie creation that's also kind of a cat voiced, of course,

[11:05] by Maddie Matheson.

[11:07] Did you mention Kitty Fridge, the living refrigerator who's also a cat?

[11:11] I forgot to mention Fortune Feimster voiced Kitty Fridge.

[11:16] Okay, so that's our Gabby Cats.

[11:18] A real reversal of Fortune.

[11:19] I think we all have our favorites.

[11:22] There's a reversal of Feimster, yeah.

[11:25] So we flash forward.

[11:27] Gabby is now a tween.

[11:29] Is that correct?

[11:31] I'm like estimating age here.

[11:32] I mean, in real life, she's like 18.

Elliott Kalan

[11:35] She's like 17 or 18.

[11:36] Yeah, I mean, well, Dan, let's not get gross.

[11:38] But she's...

[11:38] I wasn't.

[11:39] I don't know.

Stuart Wellington

[11:40] Did you start licking your chops like somebody put up a big standstill?

[11:43] No, let's not go into that world.

Dan McCoy

[11:45] This is clearly like, you know, someone who's off to college age.

[11:48] Yes, I think so.

[11:50] Not the age that they're trying to show.

[11:52] She's an elder teen at this point.

[11:53] Yeah.

[11:54] Okay.

Stuart Wellington

[11:55] So elder teen Gabby goes on a road trip with Grandma Gigi to go stay at Gigi's house in

[12:02] Cat Francisco.

[12:04] They bring the dollhouse along because, you know...

Elliott Kalan

[12:07] So did Gigi drive from Cat Francisco to Gabby's house across the country and then back again?

[12:13] Yeah.

[12:14] And she drove across the country to get her and then drove across the country to get back home?

Stuart Wellington

[12:18] I mean, she's a retiree.

[12:18] She's got plenty of time.

[12:19] Oh, that's true, I guess.

[12:20] I mean, she's just looking to fill the time.

[12:21] Gabby could easily get on a plane.

[12:22] And she wants to fill the cat-related sites along the way.

[12:25] That's right.

Dan McCoy

[12:26] So Gabby was living alone in the old Gigi house?

[12:31] Like, where was she living?

[12:33] No, Gabby was just in her house.

Elliott Kalan

[12:34] She was just in her house.

Dan McCoy

[12:35] But now she's moving to Cat Francisco with her grandmother.

[12:38] She's just visiting Cat Francisco.

[12:38] Just visiting.

[12:39] Oh, just visiting.

[12:40] But she's taking her dollhouse with her.

[12:41] I guess because...

Elliott Kalan

[12:41] Grandma, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[12:43] She's taking the dollhouse with her because she loves her dollhouse so much.

[12:45] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[12:45] Okay.

[12:46] It's like, it's kind of her thing, right?

Dan McCoy

[12:48] Yeah.

[12:49] I mean, I guess if you have living cat dolls,

[12:51] you can't just leave those at home, you know?

[12:53] Yeah.

[12:53] Otherwise, you'll have a Chumsley situation,

Stuart Wellington

[12:56] which we'll talk about later.

[12:56] Exactly.

[12:56] You don't want one of that.

[12:57] Yeah.

[12:57] Okay.

[12:58] So when they arrive to Cat Francisco,

[12:59] obviously we get like a road trip montage

[13:01] where we see various sites

[13:03] that are reminiscent of sites in our universe,

[13:05] but in the cat universe,

[13:07] they're a little bit catified.

[13:09] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[13:09] Including one where they're like,

[13:10] one of the characters is just hugging Shrek,

[13:13] I guess because it's the same company.

[13:15] It's DreamWorks.

[13:16] It's a DreamWorks.

[13:16] It's the same as in our universe.

[13:18] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[13:18] Put a Shrek out there,

[13:19] somebody's hugging his ass.

[13:22] Look, either Dr. Phil is a green M&M is marrying him

[13:25] or someone's hugging him.

[13:26] That's what you do with a Shrek.

[13:28] Okay, so-

[13:29] Wait, I just want to say,

[13:30] I was reading in,

[13:30] my New Yorker reading is like a year and a half behind,

[13:33] but I just read an article in one

[13:34] where it was about this college student

[13:36] who has dedicated years

[13:38] to trying to get justice for the donkey

[13:40] who inspired the donkey in Shrek.

[13:43] There's a real life donkey.

[13:44] And she's like,

[13:45] this donkey has health problems.

[13:46] It deserves to get more money

[13:48] and attention from the studio.

[13:49] Okay.

[13:49] And I was like,

[13:50] of all the things going on in the world,

[13:51] what a strange cause to take on as your own.

Dan McCoy

[13:54] Yeah, two things.

[13:55] Like, until you explain it,

[13:56] I'm like,

[13:56] what does justice for a donkey mean?

[13:59] And number two is like,

[14:00] because of like the Zoom call,

[14:02] it sounded at first like,

[14:03] instead of New Yorker,

[14:03] you said you were reading The Bjorker.

[14:05] Yeah, it was The Bjorker,

Elliott Kalan

[14:06] which is Bjork's magazine

[14:07] where she talks about things

[14:09] that interest her at the moment.

Dan McCoy

[14:10] It's just like,

[14:10] you know,

[14:11] it's like hair care tips

[14:12] where you're like,

[14:12] you have to get,

Stuart Wellington

[14:14] you leave food out for the fairies.

[14:16] Oh, damn.

[14:16] Yeah, yeah.

[14:17] It's showing off his fucking snatch game.

[14:19] Bjork compression.

[14:20] There's stuff about food for fairies.

[14:21] At night they will do your hair.

Elliott Kalan

[14:23] Reminisces of awkward moments

[14:25] with Matthew Barney.

[14:26] Like, there's lots of,

[14:26] yeah, Bjorker is a great magazine.

[14:28] Anyway,

[14:28] keep going on with the summary.

[14:30] Let's keep moving.

[14:31] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[14:31] Okay.

[14:32] So,

[14:33] after arriving in Cap Francisco,

[14:35] which is similar to San Francisco

[14:37] in our universe,

[14:39] it is very hilly,

[14:40] which is important

[14:41] because while Gabby

[14:43] is distracted by her grandmother,

[14:45] Cat Rat gets,

[14:46] he gets antsy

[14:49] and he decides to undo the straps

[14:52] holding the dollhouse

[14:53] to the van,

[14:55] letting it start sliding down these hills

[14:58] because, of course,

[14:59] the dollhouse has these wheels.

Dan McCoy

[15:01] Before we get too far into this chase sequence,

[15:07] do they ever,

[15:08] I wasn't paying that much attention to this,

[15:10] do they ever make a cat tower reference

[15:12] for San Francisco?

Elliott Kalan

[15:14] A cat tower?

[15:15] No, I don't think they do.

[15:16] Anyway, that's it.

[15:17] Instead of coit tower?

Dan McCoy

[15:18] Yeah.

[15:18] I don't think so.

[15:18] It was really worth stopping to talk about it.

[15:20] No, it's good.

[15:21] Let's just write in

Elliott Kalan

[15:22] if you thought that was worth it.

[15:23] Yeah, write in to

[15:24] Dan, shut up,

[15:25] courtesy of the Flophouse.

[15:28] 123 Fake Street,

[15:30] Anytown, USA.

[15:31] I'm going to get so many letters.

Stuart Wellington

[15:32] Yeah.

[15:33] It's going to make me feel bad.

[15:34] You're going to have to move off the fake street.

[15:37] They're going to run you out of town.

Elliott Kalan

[15:39] Run you out of any town.

[15:40] Run you out on a cat rail.

[15:43] This is a real fear that I understand

[15:45] about those hills of San Francisco.

[15:46] I remember once

[15:47] when my older son was very little,

[15:49] pushing him in a stroller

[15:50] around a hill in San Francisco

[15:51] and I realized,

[15:52] I was like,

[15:52] if I accidentally let go of him

[15:54] at this moment,

[15:55] he is gone.

[15:55] I will never see it.

[15:56] Like, the stroller will roll down this hill

[15:58] and I will never catch up with it.

[15:59] And it was one of the scariest moments

[16:01] in my life.

[16:02] So I really felt this moment.

[16:03] I was like,

[16:04] oh, this is a frightening fear.

[16:05] It's a real life fear.

[16:06] Yeah.

[16:06] You should have tied that,

Stuart Wellington

[16:07] you should have fucking tied that shit

[16:08] to your wrists.

[16:09] Well, I didn't need to.

[16:11] It didn't happen.

[16:12] Don't you have like fuzzy,

[16:12] sexy handcuffs

[16:13] laying around?

[16:14] Why don't you just use those?

Elliott Kalan

[16:15] Yeah, you know what?

[16:16] My fuzzy handcuffs,

[16:16] I did pack them

[16:17] because when in San Francisco,

[16:19] I always bring my fuzzy handcuffs.

[16:20] But I think the problem was

[16:22] we hadn't had a chance

[16:22] to use them on the trip

[16:23] so I forgot I had them with me.

[16:25] Yeah.

[16:25] And so I didn't attach the stroller

[16:27] to my wrist using my fuzzy sex handcuffs.

[16:29] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[16:29] Even as someone who has no real life fear

[16:33] to attach this to,

[16:34] like I have to,

[16:35] like this is going to show

[16:38] like how incredibly soft hearted

[16:40] I've become

[16:41] and how I need to harden up

[16:42] as a human being.

[16:43] Well, watching Gabby's Dollhouse,

[16:45] a film where I can reasonably assume

[16:47] that nothing bad

[16:48] is really going to happen.

[16:49] I was like,

[16:51] this is way too stressful for me

[16:52] for this movie to start off

[16:54] with like this girl's

[16:55] like most prized possession

[16:56] filled with living cat dolls

[16:59] to like zoom down these hills

[17:02] and be separated from her immediately.

Stuart Wellington

[17:04] So yeah, Gabby gives chase,

[17:06] but obviously she's outpaced

[17:07] by the much faster dollhouse.

[17:09] So it zooms around corners,

[17:11] it almost gets in accidents,

[17:13] It handles very well

[17:14] considering it is again

[17:16] a six foot tall dollhouse on wheels.

[17:18] being steered by basically

[17:19] the doll figurines inside

[17:21] running from one side

[17:23] to the other to add weight.

[17:25] Yeah, that weight can't be enough.

[17:26] Eventually it comes to rest.

[17:28] Yeah, Dan,

Elliott Kalan

[17:28] let's talk about the physics

[17:29] of Gabby's Dollhouse the movie.

[17:31] When Gabby tweaks her ears

[17:33] and becomes a tiny Gabby,

[17:35] where does the extra mass go?

[17:36] Where does that mass go?

[17:37] And when she turns back to human,

[17:39] where does the new mass come from?

[17:41] Mass can neither be destroyed

[17:42] nor recreated.

[17:44] Oh, it's been particles.

[17:44] When she's smaller,

[17:45] when she's smaller,

[17:46] she is heavy as fuck.

[17:48] Oh, wow.

[17:49] Then I worry that

[17:51] if she shrinks too much,

[17:51] she'll become an intense

[17:52] super gravity black hole

[17:54] and destroy all of Cat Francisco.

Stuart Wellington

[17:55] Well, luckily,

[17:56] luckily Gigi has not given her

[17:58] that ability.

[17:59] Oh, thank goodness.

[18:00] Okay, so the dollhouse

[18:03] comes to rest

[18:04] outside of a vintage store

[18:07] where it is espied

[18:09] by a passing kitty litter magnate,

[18:13] Vera,

[18:14] played, of course,

[18:14] by Kristen Weig,

[18:16] who is driving around

[18:17] in her convertible.

[18:19] Weig?

[18:20] Weig?

[18:20] I just say wig.

[18:21] I say wig,

Elliott Kalan

[18:21] but I mean,

[18:22] you're pronouncing it

[18:22] the same way you would

[18:23] if she was a Nintendo Wii,

[18:24] so maybe you're right.

Stuart Wellington

[18:27] And she's driving by

[18:28] in her convertible with,

[18:29] I think she's with her cat,

[18:31] Marlena,

[18:32] who is not hairless,

[18:34] but like looks like

[18:35] a hairless cat.

[18:36] Very short hair.

[18:37] Like a sphinx cat type cat,

[18:38] right?

[18:39] Kind of, yeah,

[18:39] and is like eternally angry,

[18:42] possibly because of the amounts

[18:43] of wigs, outfits,

[18:45] and turbans Marlena has to wear.

Elliott Kalan

[18:47] Now, this is a good segue

[18:48] for something I wanted

[18:49] to talk about,

[18:50] which is the way

[18:51] that the trivia section

[18:53] of the Gabby's Dollhouse

[18:55] entry on the IMDb,

[18:57] there are a number of,

[18:58] some would say interesting,

[19:00] and I would say

[19:00] just interesting that they exist,

[19:02] piece of trivia.

[19:03] I mean,

Stuart Wellington

[19:03] there's literally a place

[19:04] in there to say

[19:06] if you find it interesting

[19:07] or not.

[19:07] Yeah, exactly.

[19:08] But I'm glad that you're

[19:09] bringing it out

[19:10] of the comments section

[19:11] into the podcast.

Elliott Kalan

[19:11] Well, so this says,

[19:13] Julie Kavner was originally

[19:14] considered to be

[19:14] the role of Vera,

[19:15] but declined,

[19:16] instead giving the part

[19:17] to Kristen Wiig.

[19:18] And I have to assume

[19:18] they changed the part

[19:19] quite a bit

[19:19] because I can't imagine

[19:20] Julie Kavner doing

[19:22] some of the things

[19:22] Kristen Wiig does

[19:23] in this,

[19:23] like yoga

[19:24] and things like that.

[19:25] Were we about to have

[19:26] back-to-back

[19:27] Julie Kavner movies?

[19:28] We almost had,

[19:29] this almost became

[19:30] Kavner Arch.

[19:31] Kavner theme month.

[19:31] Kavner Berry.

[19:32] Yeah, Kavner month.

[19:34] But it said,

[19:34] the next one,

[19:35] Ilana Glazer and Jeff Garland

[19:36] were originally offered

[19:37] to portray Gabby's

[19:38] mother and father

[19:38] in the film,

[19:39] but declined.

[19:40] Instead, Gabby's parents

[19:41] have been written

[19:41] out of the film.

[19:42] And there are a number

[19:43] of pieces of trivia

[19:43] on this that are,

[19:44] this person was almost

[19:45] in the movie,

[19:46] which means they were

[19:47] offered a part

[19:48] and said no,

[19:49] which does not mean

[19:50] they were almost

[19:50] in the movie.

[19:51] But then you get

[19:52] a lot of,

[19:52] you get a lot of trivia,

[19:55] like about a dozen

[19:56] pieces of trivia

[19:57] that are like this.

[19:59] Let's see.

[20:00] This is the second

[20:01] Netflix film adaptation

[20:02] from DreamWorks

[20:03] in Spirit Untamed.

[20:04] It is, however,

[20:04] the first one to be

[20:05] connected to the

[20:05] original series

[20:06] rather than be a remake

[20:07] of that series

[20:08] or this one.

[20:09] DreamWorks Animation's

[20:09] first G-rated film

[20:10] to not release on VHS,

[20:12] not be distributed

[20:12] by DreamWorks Pictures

[20:13] and not have a PG-rated

[20:15] follow-up film.

[20:16] There are so many,

[20:17] apparently,

[20:18] so many,

[20:19] so many trivia pieces

[20:20] here about like

[20:21] firsts that this movie

[20:23] have that don't make it,

[20:24] that are like

[20:24] the most baseball stat

[20:26] of hair cutting.

Stuart Wellington

[20:27] I think that's a sign

[20:30] that AI is coming

[20:31] for the job

[20:32] of weirdos

[20:33] who posted the

[20:33] trivia section of IMDb.

[20:34] I didn't even think

[20:35] about that.

Elliott Kalan

[20:35] It makes so much more sense

[20:36] if these were AI listed.

[20:38] And this is my favorite one.

[20:38] This is the one

[20:39] I wanted to bring out

[20:39] the most.

[20:40] It is rather interesting

[20:41] and the fact that it says

[20:42] in the beginning

[20:42] makes me feel like

[20:43] AI wrote this.

[20:44] It is rather interesting

[20:45] that this film

[20:48] would be released

[20:48] in 2025

[20:49] after The Bad Guys 2

[20:51] which will make it

[20:52] DreamWorks 50th animated

[20:53] feature film

[20:54] as 50 is divisible

[20:55] by 25.

[20:56] That's the piece of trivia.

[20:58] Is that interesting?

[20:58] Wait, what?

[21:00] But it is

[21:00] DreamWorks 50th animated film

[21:02] that is released in 2025

[21:04] and 50 is divisible

[21:06] by 25.

[21:06] How many people

[21:07] do you think

[21:07] found that helpful

[21:08] on IMDb?

[21:09] How many people

[21:09] found it helpful?

[21:10] I'm going to go

[21:10] with a goose egg on that.

[21:11] Oh, you're wrong.

[21:12] Nine people found it helpful.

[21:13] Okay.

[21:14] Of course, 49

[21:14] thumbs down.

[21:15] 49 unhelpful.

Stuart Wellington

[21:18] Nine real breathing

[21:20] human beings

[21:21] I'm sure

Elliott Kalan

[21:21] found it super interesting.

[21:23] What this tells me,

[21:23] you're right,

[21:24] I think most of this stuff

[21:25] must be AI generated

[21:26] is my guess

[21:28] which makes me feel

[21:29] both good

[21:29] that a human

[21:30] didn't waste their time

[21:31] on it

[21:31] and bad

[21:32] that even our dumb

[21:34] IMDb trivia

[21:35] longer has the

[21:36] I liked imagining

[21:37] some human person

[21:38] being like

[21:38] oh, all these

[21:39] exciting discoveries

[21:40] about Gabby's dollhouse

[21:41] I've got to share them

[21:42] with the world

[21:42] you know

[21:43] but what do you think

[21:44] on the numerology of that

[21:45] that's their 50th animated film

[21:47] came out in 2025

[21:48] 50 is divisible

[21:49] by 25

[21:50] and the number you get

[21:51] is two

[21:51] that guy's two

[21:52] was the one right before it.

Dan McCoy

[21:54] Wow.

[21:55] Oh shit.

[21:56] This goes all the way

[21:56] to the top.

Elliott Kalan

[21:58] Next thing you know

[21:58] we're going to see

[21:59] that Gabby's dollhouse

[22:00] is in the Epstein files.

[22:01] That's how in the weeds

Stuart Wellington

[22:02] we are

[22:02] and I was born

[22:03] in February

[22:04] which is the second month

[22:06] and my birthday

[22:07] is the 26th

[22:08] which is one more

[22:09] than 25.

[22:10] Wow.

[22:11] Gabby?

[22:11] The 26th is also

Elliott Kalan

[22:12] divisible by two.

[22:14] The number you get

[22:15] 13.

[22:16] Oh, that's a scary number.

Stuart Wellington

[22:17] Yesterday was Friday the 13th.

[22:20] Oh, wow.

[22:20] That's a scary number.

[22:21] That's Jason's birthday.

[22:23] Is it?

[22:26] Okay.

[22:27] Okay, folks.

[22:28] Well,

[22:29] So Gabby's dollhouse?

[22:30] Vera sees the

[22:31] and guys,

[22:32] Kristen Wiig in this movie.

[22:33] I mean,

[22:33] I think we'll,

[22:34] I'm sure we'll mention it.

[22:35] I think she gives,

[22:37] I don't know if I would go

[22:37] so far as to say

[22:38] Jim Carrey

[22:39] in the Sonic franchise

[22:40] level of commitment

[22:41] but she seems committed.

[22:43] Her outfits are great.

[22:45] It's fine.

Elliott Kalan

[22:45] She comes out of this movie

[22:46] looking good.

[22:47] Like,

[22:47] and I think she comes,

[22:48] she doesn't,

[22:49] I feel like this is one,

[22:50] another,

[22:51] we've seen this a number of times now

[22:52] where people who are better

[22:53] than the material

[22:54] that they're in,

[22:55] this or

[22:56] Jemaine Clement

[22:57] in Harold and the Purple Crayon

[22:59] or Jim Carrey

[22:59] in the Sonic movies,

[23:00] they do a good job

[23:01] and you come out being like,

[23:03] I wish that person

[23:04] didn't have to do that movie

[23:05] because they're,

[23:06] but they did a good job.

[23:07] I liked seeing it in it.

[23:08] But there's also

Stuart Wellington

[23:08] more good movies for being made.

Elliott Kalan

[23:10] And this character is so,

[23:10] this character,

[23:11] yes,

[23:11] well,

[23:12] and this character is so

[23:13] early set up

[23:14] to be like the Cruella DeVille

[23:15] like villain type character

[23:16] and that's not really

[23:17] what she's doing at all

[23:18] and it just becomes an excuse

[23:19] for Kristen Wiig

[23:20] to do silly things

[23:21] in the movie

[23:22] and I'm like,

[23:22] okay,

[23:23] great,

[23:23] this is a good way

[23:24] to handle this.

[23:24] bleach blonde hair

[23:25] that's pink at the top

[23:27] and,

[23:27] uh,

[23:27] And Dan,

[23:28] you were texting us

[23:29] about how attractive

[23:30] you found her.

Dan McCoy

[23:31] I apologize to the world

[23:33] but she's really fine

[23:35] to see this movie.

Stuart Wellington

[23:39] Yeah,

[23:39] yeah,

[23:39] I mean,

[23:40] the idea that you're drawn

[23:41] to a,

[23:42] an incredibly wealthy

[23:43] cat lady.

[23:43] Yeah.

[23:44] Who is also stylish

[23:45] and does yoga

[23:46] with her.

[23:47] Yeah,

[23:47] I mean,

[23:48] yeah,

Elliott Kalan

[23:48] I think there's,

[23:48] I,

[23:49] the math works out.

[23:50] I don't see a problem

[23:51] with it.

[23:51] But I also doesn't seem

[23:52] to like having children around.

[23:54] This is all perfect for Dan.

[23:55] But I think,

[23:56] I think this points

[23:56] to a,

[23:57] a,

[23:58] either a good

[23:58] or a bad thing

[23:59] which is a,

[24:00] whereas people used

[24:01] to be like Anthony Newley

[24:03] in the Garbage Pail Kids

[24:04] movie where it would be like,

[24:05] you could tell he does not care

[24:06] and he is not bothering

[24:07] even to stick to the script

[24:08] or do whatever.

[24:09] Like,

[24:10] you could,

[24:10] I think,

[24:11] I feel like when you see people

[24:12] in bad kids movies now

[24:13] or in kids movies

[24:14] that should be disposable,

[24:16] they're,

[24:17] they're really like doing it.

[24:19] Like they're acting,

[24:19] they're doing a good,

[24:20] they're,

[24:20] they're committing to it.

[24:22] And I think that's both

[24:23] a good thing

[24:23] because it means we get

[24:24] good performances out of them

[24:25] that,

[24:26] that lift these movies

[24:27] but also a bad thing

[24:28] because it's like,

[24:28] like you're saying,

[24:29] Dan,

[24:29] I wish they had better movies

[24:30] to make those committed

[24:31] performances in.

[24:32] I think there's also,

Stuart Wellington

[24:33] for,

[24:33] for the actor,

[24:34] I think there's also

[24:35] something to be said

[24:36] about the idea of

[24:37] being in children's movies

[24:39] can add to your longevity

[24:41] because.

[24:41] Oh,

[24:41] that's true.

[24:42] people like those kids

[24:43] will grow up someday

[24:44] and remember you.

Dan McCoy

[24:46] And I,

[24:47] you know,

[24:47] I've watched a movie,

[24:48] like if they're putting in

[24:49] a good performance in it,

[24:50] I'm not,

[24:50] you know,

[24:51] like you say,

[24:51] there's no stink on the person.

[24:53] I,

[24:53] I watch this movie

[24:54] and I admire her

[24:54] for being such a pro.

[24:56] Yeah.

[24:57] Just really putting it all

[24:58] into the silliness.

[24:59] I feel like,

Elliott Kalan

[24:59] I feel like people don't,

[25:00] people only can come off well

[25:01] when they're,

[25:02] when they're committing

[25:02] properly to the role.

[25:03] And like,

[25:04] the,

[25:05] like,

[25:06] later on.

Stuart Wellington

[25:06] You were saying

[25:07] Jared Leto

[25:07] comes off pretty well,

[25:08] right?

[25:09] I think that's committing

Elliott Kalan

[25:10] improperly to the role.

[25:12] Improperly.

[25:12] Okay,

[25:13] sure.

[25:14] Okay,

[25:14] okay,

[25:14] okay.

[25:15] I think,

[25:15] my guess is that,

[25:16] I'll put that in the don't do's.

[25:17] My guess is that,

[25:18] my guess is that,

[25:19] my guess is that Kristen,

[25:19] which is next to doo doo,

Dan McCoy

[25:21] which is very confusing.

Elliott Kalan

[25:22] Which is,

[25:22] and everybody does it,

[25:23] Dan.

[25:23] Everybody does doo doo.

[25:25] My guess is that Kristen Wiig

[25:26] was not like,

[25:26] I've got to get into

[25:27] the character of Vera.

[25:28] Let me mail a dead cat

[25:29] to Gabby.

[25:32] I think,

[25:32] which probably at the end

[25:33] of the day when they said,

[25:34] you know,

[25:34] quit in time

[25:35] and they blew that whistle.

[25:35] She took off that wig

[25:36] and said,

[25:37] I'll leave Vera here

[25:37] on the set

[25:38] and I'll be Kristen Wiig

[25:39] for the evening.

Stuart Wellington

[25:41] Yeah.

[25:42] Okay,

[25:43] so Vera sees this dollhouse

[25:45] and this looks perfect

[25:46] because as we'll learn,

[25:48] she has a very cat themed apartment,

[25:51] which I'm guessing,

[25:51] I feel like her mansion almost.

[25:53] Yeah,

[25:53] my mistake.

[25:54] Very beautiful home.

[25:55] She has one of those

[25:56] huge apartments

[25:57] where there's no other

[25:58] apartments in the building.

Elliott Kalan

[25:59] What are those called?

[26:00] Those called,

[26:01] I don't know what they are.

[26:01] Where it's just one person

[26:02] and they don't share the building

[26:03] with other people.

[26:04] What's that apartment called?

Stuart Wellington

[26:05] Well,

[26:06] yeah,

[26:06] I guess I'm revealing

[26:07] my New Yorker status.

[26:08] New York brains.

Elliott Kalan

[26:10] Stuart's like,

[26:11] well,

[26:11] then they get onto

[26:11] one of those

[26:12] small above ground subways.

[26:14] Oh,

[26:14] you mean a car,

[26:15] Stuart?

[26:15] Yeah,

[26:16] yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[26:17] Oh,

[26:17] wow.

[26:17] Check out Mr. Rockefeller

Elliott Kalan

[26:19] over here

[26:19] owning a car.

Dan McCoy

[26:21] An early sign of like,

[26:22] we should not be taking

[26:23] Elon Musk seriously

[26:24] when he was like,

[26:25] we're going to build this thing

[26:26] where you put your cars

[26:27] in like a train

[26:29] underground

[26:29] and it's like,

[26:30] yeah,

[26:31] dude,

[26:31] it's a subway,

[26:32] man.

[26:32] We have that.

[26:33] It works better

[26:34] when you don't drive

[26:34] a car onto it.

[26:35] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[26:37] So,

[26:38] Vera sees this dollhouse

[26:39] and she has to have it

[26:40] because it would fit well

[26:41] with her art collection.

[26:43] Vera said that?

[26:45] That was for Dan.

[26:46] I knew we'd get that reference.

[26:48] So,

[26:48] she runs over,

[26:49] she puts a stack

[26:51] of cash.

[26:52] They don't,

[26:52] they don't do a close up

[26:53] on the bills

[26:53] but I'm assuming

[26:54] the president's heads

[26:55] are cat heads.

[26:57] And she buys this,

[26:59] you know,

[26:59] she buys this dollhouse

[27:01] from a befuddled

[27:01] vintage store owner

[27:02] who did not realize

[27:03] they had a dollhouse there.

[27:05] Yeah.

[27:05] In the process,

[27:06] she irks

[27:07] some local

[27:08] kitty rangers

[27:09] who are kind of like

[27:11] Girl Scouts.

[27:12] Yeah,

[27:12] they're not like Power Rangers.

Dan McCoy

[27:13] And this girl is like

[27:14] totally sort of extraneous

[27:16] to the film.

[27:17] I'm not really

[27:18] understanding like

[27:19] what her role is.

[27:21] I mean,

[27:21] you're right Dan

Elliott Kalan

[27:21] because otherwise

[27:22] it's a real clockwork clock.

[27:24] Well,

[27:24] it's a real,

[27:25] it's a real house of games

[27:26] on this one

[27:27] where everything

[27:27] pays off at the end.

Dan McCoy

[27:29] She shows up again later

[27:31] to do basically nothing.

[27:33] She shows up at the end

[27:34] to dance with Kristen Wiig

[27:35] and I'm like,

[27:35] why was this part of the movie?

Stuart Wellington

[27:38] I mean,

[27:39] well,

[27:39] as we'll talk about,

[27:40] I feel like the kitty rangers

[27:41] play a pretty pivotal role

[27:42] in the rescue

[27:43] of the Gabby cats

[27:44] but maybe that's just me.

[27:45] Maybe I'm more of a Gabby cat

[27:47] defender.

[27:48] Apologist.

[27:48] Yeah.

[27:49] I mean,

[27:49] I'm just,

[27:50] I'll just say.

[27:50] they know what they did.

[27:52] War crimes.

Elliott Kalan

[27:53] I'm glad that we,

[27:54] I'm glad that we didn't,

[27:55] that we didn't do more

[27:57] with that character

[27:57] because one of the things

[27:58] that I couldn't,

[27:58] this movie,

[27:59] when you watched it

[28:00] as I did on Prime,

[28:02] it was like an hour

[28:03] and 45 minutes long

[28:04] and I was like,

[28:05] what?

[28:06] How is this movie so long?

[28:07] But the last like 18 minutes

[28:08] are all credits

[28:09] and I was so glad

[28:11] that that time was credits

[28:12] rather than more

[28:13] of the Girl Scout subplot,

[28:15] you know.

Stuart Wellington

[28:16] Okay,

[28:16] so the kitty rangers

[28:19] kind of vow

[28:20] to get back at Vera for this.

[28:23] So Vera takes the dollhouse

[28:24] back to her mansion

[28:26] and she takes out

[28:29] some of the Gabby cat figurines

[28:32] and she places a few of them

[28:34] around her property

[28:35] and puts the rest of them

[28:36] in her purse

[28:37] because she loves

[28:38] her collectibles.

[28:39] She calls them not toys

[28:40] but collectibles.

[28:42] No,

Stuart Wellington

[28:42] collectibles.

[28:43] During this process,

[28:44] Cat Rat is abandoned

[28:46] in the dollhouse

[28:47] and he wandering around

[28:49] bumps into Chumsley

[28:51] who is Vera's old cat doll

[28:55] voiced, of course,

[28:56] by Jason Mantzoukas.

[28:57] I think he does a great job too.

[28:59] He does.

[28:59] He comes off great also.

[29:00] Chumsley is kind of embittered

[29:04] a little bit,

[29:04] quite a bit we will learn

[29:06] because he was Vera's childhood toy

[29:09] who was then abandoned

[29:11] as she got older.

[29:11] It's just like the villain

Elliott Kalan

[29:12] from Toy Story 3.

[29:14] Exactly.

[29:15] Yeah.

[29:15] There's only so many stories

[29:17] you can tell with toys.

[29:18] And also the villain

[29:20] from Toy Story 2.

[29:21] Yeah,

[29:21] yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[29:22] And he,

[29:23] along with him,

[29:24] And I think the villain

Elliott Kalan

[29:25] from Toy Story 4,

[29:26] possibly.

Stuart Wellington

[29:27] I haven't seen part 4.

[29:28] What happens?

[29:29] I only saw pieces of it.

Dan McCoy

[29:30] I can't really remember.

[29:32] I can't remember.

[29:33] There's four four keys

[29:34] in that one,

[29:35] right?

[29:35] Yeah.

[29:35] Who was in that one?

[29:36] Forky.

[29:38] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[29:41] You know what?

[29:41] You don't remember Forky.

[29:43] Like,

[29:43] I remember Forky.

[29:44] Yeah,

[29:44] Forky,

[29:45] I remember.

[29:45] You know what?

[29:45] I remember Forky.

[29:46] That's right.

[29:46] Yeah,

[29:47] yeah.

[29:47] He's the,

[29:48] yeah,

[29:49] yeah.

[29:49] He was an interesting addition

[29:51] to the toys.

[29:51] To have a kids movie

[29:52] where one of the characters

[29:53] is constantly trying

[29:54] to kill himself

[29:55] because he believes

[29:55] himself to be trash.

[29:58] It's an interesting choice.

Stuart Wellington

[29:59] Yeah,

[30:00] it's like that dog

[30:00] from Spin City.

[30:01] Do you guys remember that dog?

[30:02] Yeah,

[30:02] that's right.

Elliott Kalan

[30:03] I do remember that dog.

[30:04] I don't.

[30:05] Just Michael Boatman

[30:06] can hear him talking,

[30:07] right?

[30:07] Like,

[30:08] none of the other characters

[30:09] can hear him talking,

[30:10] but he's always trying

[30:10] to kill himself.

[30:11] Yeah,

[30:11] that's pretty funny.

[30:13] That was an interesting thing

[30:14] for them to throw into a sitcom

[30:15] about how the mayor's office works.

Stuart Wellington

[30:17] What a,

[30:17] what a,

[30:18] what a cast,

[30:19] right?

[30:19] Yeah,

[30:19] could have been a better cast.

Elliott Kalan

[30:21] Could have been a better cast.

[30:22] Season one,

[30:23] they had Carla Gugino

[30:23] and then she was off the show

[30:25] for the rest of it.

[30:27] You know.

Stuart Wellington

[30:27] Um,

[30:28] RIP

[30:28] to that show.

[30:30] For a character.

[30:31] Yeah.

[30:32] Okay,

[30:32] okay,

Stuart Wellington

[30:32] okay,

[30:32] so,

[30:33] um,

[30:34] and,

[30:34] uh,

[30:34] Chumsley,

[30:35] as we said,

[30:36] Chumsley also is followed along

[30:37] by a collection of these,

[30:38] like,

[30:38] jelly-looking cat dolls

[30:41] that are also part of her

[30:42] collectible collection.

[30:43] Okay.

[30:43] Meanwhile,

[30:44] Gabby,

[30:44] distraught,

[30:45] uh,

[30:46] realizes,

[30:46] you know what,

[30:47] why am I running around?

[30:48] This whole stack is in all cards.

[30:50] I was,

[30:50] like,

[30:50] looking at it,

[30:51] I'm like,

[30:51] what the hell?

[30:52] How is it possible?

[30:54] Uh,

[30:54] because we're going to sing

[30:55] all the songs,

[30:55] so I wrote down a card.

[30:56] Yeah,

[30:56] yeah,

[30:57] yeah,

Elliott Kalan

[30:57] Stuart's got a James Lipton-style

[30:58] stack of cards there

[31:00] to,

[31:00] to tell us about Gabby's dollhouse.

Stuart Wellington

[31:02] Gabby's distraught,

[31:03] but then she realizes,

[31:04] why the fuck am I heel-toeing it

[31:06] around Cat Francisco?

[31:07] Why don't I just use the magic

[31:09] and teleport into the house?

[31:11] So,

[31:11] looking directly at the screen,

[31:13] she sings her song,

[31:14] you guys want to do it with me?

[31:15] Nope.

[31:15] So,

[31:15] she says,

[31:16] uh,

[31:16] a pinch on the left,

[31:17] pinch,

[31:18] pinch on the right,

[31:19] what,

[31:19] grab,

[31:20] get,

[31:20] hold on to,

Elliott Kalan

[31:21] hold on to Pandy,

[31:22] hold Pandy's hand

[31:23] or grab Pandy's hand,

[31:24] yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[31:24] Uh-huh,

[31:24] and then you,

[31:25] they teleport in there

[31:26] and now she's animated,

[31:27] she appears in the dollhouse,

[31:29] which is kind of in disarray

[31:30] at this point

[31:31] because Cat Rat and Chumsley

[31:33] are having a ball.

[31:34] They're making a mess and playing.

Elliott Kalan

[31:36] I don't want to,

[31:36] Did we mention the toppers?

[31:38] Chumsley's little,

[31:38] little henchman friends,

[31:39] the toppers,

[31:40] they're all pencil toppers.

Stuart Wellington

[31:41] Oh,

[31:42] that's what they are.

[31:42] I describe them as like jelly figures.

[31:44] That's right,

[31:45] that's right,

Dan McCoy

[31:45] I was,

[31:46] I was thinking about Carla Gugino,

[31:47] so I missed that part.

[31:48] I don't want to,

[31:49] again,

[31:50] uh,

[31:51] you know,

[31:51] question the logic of Gabby's dollhouse.

[31:54] Do it, Dan.

[31:54] That's why we're here.

[31:56] Because this is Mythbusters,

Elliott Kalan

[31:57] Gabby's dollhouse.

[31:59] Why at this point?

[32:00] Gabby's dollhouse,

[32:00] fact or fiction,

[32:01] yeah.

[32:01] Yeah, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[32:02] If I shoot a bullet

[32:03] through Gabby's dollhouse.

Dan McCoy

[32:07] Um,

[32:07] once she has,

[32:08] uh,

[32:09] you know,

[32:09] used her power to teleport her

[32:11] to the dollhouse,

[32:12] why does she not,

[32:13] why does she not merely

[32:15] re-become large

[32:17] and explain her predicament

[32:19] to,

[32:19] uh,

[32:20] Kristen Wiig?

[32:21] My assumption is that

Elliott Kalan

[32:22] because she has found herself

[32:23] in a rich person's home,

[32:24] she is worried she'll be shot

[32:26] as a trespasser.

[32:27] Makes sense.

[32:28] You know,

[32:28] and,

[32:29] that Kristen Wiig really,

[32:30] her Vera is really more of a

[32:31] shoot first,

[32:31] ask questions later type of character.

[32:33] Yeah, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[32:33] This is a much more sad commentary

[32:34] on our current state of affairs

[32:36] than I thought.

[32:36] Oh, it's all in there, Dan.

[32:37] It's all in there, yeah.

[32:38] And you know she would have

[32:39] a pretty stylish little,

[32:40] well, gun.

[32:41] Yeah.

[32:41] Oh, yeah,

[32:41] and it would look like a cat

[32:42] was spitting the bullets out.

[32:43] Yeah, yeah.

[32:44] Yeah, that's cool.

Dan McCoy

[32:46] Oh,

[32:47] you think it's cool, huh?

[32:48] Well,

[32:48] I guess I'm just a little more,

[32:50] uh,

[32:50] a better person than you

Stuart Wellington

[32:52] because I think it's bad.

[32:53] Yeah, yeah.

[32:54] Well,

[32:54] the thing is that,

[32:55] uh,

[32:56] in my world,

[32:56] I would call something bad

[32:58] if it's cool,

[32:58] so that's fine.

[33:01] Ha ha.

[33:01] So you're both right.

Elliott Kalan

[33:03] It's a little twisted, yeah.

[33:04] Like the,

Dan McCoy

[33:04] like mid to late 80s.

Elliott Kalan

[33:06] Yeah,

[33:06] yeah,

[33:07] it's my world.

[33:07] So,

[33:08] does cool mean bad then?

[33:10] If bad means cool?

[33:11] Yeah,

[33:12] exactly.

[33:13] So,

[33:13] you were really calling it bad

[33:14] and Dan was really calling it cool.

Dan McCoy

[33:17] Oh, man.

[33:18] I thought I was a good person.

[33:19] Yeah,

[33:20] It turns out Dan's the bad guy

[33:21] and Stuart is the good guy.

[33:23] But that means I'm good.

Elliott Kalan

[33:25] Oh, boy.

[33:26] Merely that you're cool,

[33:28] not necessarily good.

Stuart Wellington

[33:29] True.

[33:30] Okay, so.

[33:31] Nice is different than good.

[33:32] Gabby leaves Catrat and Chumsley

[33:35] to guard the dollhouse

[33:36] and then she and Pandy head out

[33:38] to go rescue the missing Gabby cats.

[33:41] Mm-hmm.

[33:42] They run around this,

[33:43] this home for a little bit

[33:45] before finding Mercat in the aquarium.

[33:49] So we have a little undersea adventure.

[33:51] There's a song.

[33:52] They eventually rescue Mercat

[33:55] and they escape in a bubble.

Elliott Kalan

[33:59] But we'll find that wherever the little cats go,

[34:02] their magic spreads kind of like life and goodness

[34:05] to the things around them.

[34:06] And I guess it's what the power of play

[34:08] or something like that, you know?

Stuart Wellington

[34:09] And they kind of like animate

Dan McCoy

[34:11] the various things that are.

[34:13] Yeah.

[34:13] When they rescue Mercat,

[34:15] do they rescue her Mercan?

[34:18] Stuart, please move on.

Stuart Wellington

[34:21] So as the after rescue Mercat.

Dan McCoy

[34:23] You can refer back to that address

[34:24] to tell me to show up, I guess.

[34:26] Yes, please do.

Stuart Wellington

[34:27] So they float away.

[34:28] They're floating through the home.

[34:30] Refer back to Dan.

Elliott Kalan

[34:31] Enough of your disgusting puns.

Stuart Wellington

[34:34] So they're floating away in a bubble

[34:36] and Vera unknowingly opens the door

[34:39] and they go flying out into the garden

[34:41] where they land

[34:43] and they encounter a tribe of kitty gnomes

[34:46] that are like wooden little garden gnome cat characters

[34:50] who are also kind of like savage coded.

[34:55] And they're animated at like a different frame rate

Dan McCoy

[34:58] than the rest of them

[34:58] to make it look a little more like

[34:59] they're like stop motion or something.

Elliott Kalan

[35:02] Yeah, and they're all voiced by comedians,

[35:04] you know, by comedy people.

Stuart Wellington

[35:06] And unlike the rest

[35:07] who are all Broadway's biggest stars.

[35:12] And of course, F. Marie Abraham

[35:14] who shows up as grandfather cat.

[35:16] F. Marie Abra cat.

[35:18] So they, the kitty gnomes

[35:21] take Gabby and crew to their leader,

[35:24] which of course is Kitty Fairy

[35:27] who the kitty gnomes are kind of worshiping

[35:29] as both a queen

[35:30] and some kind of a god.

[35:32] Yeah.

[35:33] They convince Kitty Fairy

[35:34] to sneak out with them.

[35:36] So they try to trick the gnomes

[35:38] who do not want to give up their new god.

[35:40] They, they trick them

[35:42] into playing a game of hide and seek,

[35:44] which leads to a flying chase

[35:47] in this kind of ornithopter type

[35:50] contraption that they've created.

[35:53] And the gnomes are just flying dragonflies, right?

[35:55] They're just flying dragonflies.

[35:56] It's pretty cool.

[35:57] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[35:58] To be honest, this, this sequence

[36:00] is my favorite in the, in the movie.

[36:01] I think it felt like they established

[36:03] a real sketch premise.

[36:05] They pull it off.

[36:06] There's a couple of funny jokes in there.

[36:07] It leads to an exciting, you know, chase.

[36:09] I was like, okay, you know what movie?

[36:11] Yeah.

[36:11] You got me for this part.

[36:12] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[36:13] It even like in the climax, of course,

[36:15] is where their, their makeshift flying machine

[36:18] is falling out of the sky.

[36:19] And it, part of it involves some gardening gloves

[36:22] and Vera looking out her window

[36:24] sees this contraption falling out of the sky

[36:27] and waves back at it.

Dan McCoy

[36:29] Yeah.

[36:29] I like, I like this running gag of Kristen Wiig

[36:32] slowly going mad because she thinks she sees,

[36:36] I mean, she does see small people

[36:37] running around with small cats.

[36:40] Ali, just to jump back,

[36:41] you said this is maybe your favorite part.

[36:42] Would you say that your least favorite part

[36:44] was the license plate that said kitty wagon?

[36:48] I didn't love that.

Elliott Kalan

[36:49] I didn't, I think that would be my least favorite part

[36:52] if it wasn't for the-

Stuart Wellington

[36:53] Because it's a Kill Bill reference, right?

[36:54] Yeah.

[36:54] Yeah, yeah.

[36:55] If it wasn't for the introduction of Cookie Bobby,

Elliott Kalan

[36:57] I think that would be my least favorite part.

[36:58] Oh, wow.

[36:59] Cookie Bobby, when he, we'll get to,

[37:00] when he shows up, he comes out of nowhere.

[37:03] He goes away quickly.

[37:04] He is off-putting and unpleasant.

[37:07] And I was like, why is this here?

[37:09] Why is this happening right now?

[37:11] You know?

[37:11] Mm-hmm.

[37:12] Well, he's Cookie Bobby.

[37:13] Okay.

Stuart Wellington

[37:14] So, they eventually, you know, they-

Elliott Kalan

[37:17] I was like, I feel like every kid's movie,

[37:19] there's one thing in it where if a kid sees it

[37:21] at the wrong moment, it becomes a nightmare

[37:22] that they carry with them for the rest of their life.

[37:24] And when Cookie Bobby came up, I was like,

[37:26] that's it.

[37:26] This is the one for this movie.

Stuart Wellington

[37:28] I'm Cookie Bobby.

[37:29] So, okay.

[37:30] Don't need that.

[37:32] They, uh, they eventually come to an agreement

[37:35] with the kitty gnomes.

[37:37] The kitty gnomes realize how much they enjoyed

[37:39] playing with our heroes, but they are like,

[37:42] you don't need us to play.

[37:43] You can play with yourselves.

[37:45] And Dave's like, damn right I can.

[37:48] Well, it's an important message, you know.

[37:50] Uh, and so, hooray.

[37:52] So, we've got another saved kitty.

[37:54] Now, the rest of them we find out are in Vera's purse.

[37:56] That's gonna be tough.

[37:58] Luckily, just then the kitty rangers show up

[38:01] and they play hardball trying to sell,

[38:05] what, like, cake pops or something?

Elliott Kalan

[38:06] Whatever it is they sell,

[38:07] that's their equivalent of cookies.

[38:08] They say you have to buy a lot of it

[38:10] if you don't give us that dollhouse.

[38:11] And Vera just gives them a bunch of money

[38:13] and that's it.

Stuart Wellington

[38:14] And it's, the fun, the weird part, okay,

[38:16] is that the, initially she tries to close the door on them.

[38:19] And so, one of the, you know,

[38:20] the little girl blocks it with her shoe.

[38:23] After they come to an agreement,

[38:24] she just closes the door.

[38:26] And I'm like, you should have just locked that thing.

[38:28] But, uh, she leaves it

[38:29] and then the kitty rangers just go into her home.

[38:32] Uh, like it's, uh, I don't know,

[38:35] like it's some kind of home invasion thriller.

[38:37] Yeah, it's real Goldilocks type, uh,

[38:39] type energy right here, yeah.

[38:40] Mm-hmm, yeah.

[38:41] And, um, or, uh, funny games.

Elliott Kalan

[38:44] Yeah, I mean, Goldilocks was essentially

[38:46] the original funny games.

Stuart Wellington

[38:49] The funny games you're thinking of

[38:50] was a remake of another movie called Funny Games.

[38:52] I think that came first.

[38:53] Oh, yeah, that's the original.

[38:53] That inspired Goldilocks.

Elliott Kalan

[38:55] Oh, yeah, right, you're right.

[38:56] That inspired Goldilocks.

[38:57] That's right, yeah, yeah.

[38:58] Goldilocks saw funny games.

[38:59] It goes, I can just go into any house I want

[39:00] and terrorize a bunch of bears.

[39:01] Yeah, sure.

Stuart Wellington

[39:02] Goldilocks, also German, right?

[39:03] It was Goldenlaken, right?

[39:06] Gildenlaken, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[39:07] Gildenlaken, yeah.

[39:08] Und die drei Barren.

[39:09] Yeah, exactly.

[39:10] Yeah.

[39:11] Okay.

[39:12] Yeah, oh, man.

[39:12] I got, like, 100 more cards to go through.

[39:14] Please don't.

[39:16] So, uh, the, the Kitty Rangers

[39:19] are running around Vera's home.

[39:20] They are, uh, pushing her sculptures around,

[39:23] and it's all this fun cat-related stuff.

[39:26] And they're like,

[39:27] you don't play with all this cool stuff?

[39:28] She's like, no, it's collectibles.

[39:31] Um, meanwhile, Gabby's using this distraction

[39:33] to save, uh, what, Baby Box, uh,

[39:38] all the other ones.

[39:39] You are looking to the wrong people.

[39:41] DJ Cat are your favorite cats.

[39:42] Yeah, all the cats that you love.

[39:43] Baby Box, DJ Cat,

[39:44] at least one other, maybe Pillow Cat.

[39:47] Pillow Cat, maybe.

[39:48] Carlita doesn't need-

[39:49] I think Cakey's in there.

[39:50] Yeah, Cakey, sure.

[39:51] Okay.

[39:52] Cakey did get Bakey earlier.

[39:54] Yeah.

[39:55] Okay.

[39:56] Okay.

[39:56] Mongo Jerry.

[39:57] So they, uh, so she rescues the rest of them.

[40:00] Hooray.

[40:00] We have all of our team.

[40:01] Why is there so much movie left?

[40:03] Well, we're gonna find out.

[40:04] So they go to the dollhouse.

[40:06] That's where, uh, they're like,

[40:08] okay, well, we're gonna leave.

[40:09] And Chumsley's like, fuck that.

[40:12] I'm not gonna go back to my life

[40:13] of not getting played with.

[40:15] This sucks.

[40:16] So, uh, he and his, uh, cronies

[40:19] kick them out and they board up the windows.

[40:21] And so, uh, I wanna tie this in.

Dan McCoy

[40:25] Like, we've seen this in a fair number

[40:27] of Flophouse movies before,

[40:29] including, uh, uh, If, or IF,

[40:33] or, you know, like, whatever.

[40:34] Yeah, If.

[40:35] Um.

[40:36] Yeah, Lindsay Anderson movie.

[40:37] Well, Malcolm McDowell.

[40:38] It's, I mean, the word isn't if.

[40:39] It's just like a, you know,

[40:41] it's IF, imaginary friend, or whatever.

[40:42] But my point is-

[40:43] But don't they say if in it?

[40:44] I guess that's true.

[40:45] Uh, it's good that we got

[40:46] bogged down in this.

[40:48] Well, that was a useful way

[40:48] to spend time.

[40:49] So, Dan, what are you saying?

[40:51] We've seen this message

[40:52] in a lot of these movies

[40:53] where it just seems to be like a-

Elliott Kalan

[40:55] Did I mention my wife earlier

[40:56] was like, we've got things to do today

[40:57] so you can make this a quicker recording?

[40:58] And I'm like, you got it.

[41:00] Uh, can, there's a lot of ones

Dan McCoy

[41:03] where the message seems to be like,

[41:04] uh, can you believe that people grow up

[41:07] and stop playing with things

[41:09] or stop, like, having imaginary friends?

[41:12] Oh, brother.

[41:13] And it's just like, uh,

[41:16] yeah, I don't understand this message.

[41:18] Well, this-

[41:18] So, this is-

Elliott Kalan

[41:19] Dan, I'm glad you brought it up

[41:20] because this is what-

[41:21] This movie, I felt like I was gonna be like,

[41:23] oh, this movie's gonna be so dumb

[41:25] and crass or whatever.

[41:26] But really, the issue I have with the movie

[41:27] is exactly that.

[41:28] The message is like,

[41:30] don't grow up,

[41:31] keep playing with your toys.

[41:32] Like with if-

[41:32] And I'm like,

[41:33] if there is a problem in America today,

[41:35] it is that adults have stopped growing up

[41:38] in the way that-

[41:39] Not in the way of like,

[41:39] these young people aren't buying houses,

[41:41] but the way that we have a lot of

[41:42] old pieces of shit

[41:44] in the government

[41:45] who act like children

[41:46] and do stuff like-

[41:47] and pretend the world is a video game

[41:49] or like,

[41:50] they're teens online

[41:51] who are memeing

[41:52] through killing people

[41:53] and stuff like that.

[41:54] And I was looking at, um,

[41:56] our current Secretary of Defense

[41:57] who's a-

[41:58] Again, I'm just gonna limit here,

[41:59] a piece of shit.

[42:00] Yeah, I think that's fair.

[42:01] And the fact that he's like,

[42:02] our war fighters need intense lethality.

[42:05] Look at the way we're blowing up all that stuff.

[42:06] Isn't it cool?

[42:07] And it's like,

[42:07] grow up, man.

[42:08] You're one year older than me

[42:10] and you're acting like you're 14 years old

[42:12] and you're in charge of the military.

[42:14] Like, so the message of,

[42:15] kids shouldn't grow up and become adults.

[42:17] It's like, no, I disagree.

[42:18] We need more adults.

[42:19] We need more adults in the world.

[42:21] If we lived in a world

[42:22] where people stopped playing with their toys

[42:24] and that means we get movies

[42:25] other than like He-Man and Thundercats

[42:27] and stuff like that in the theaters.

[42:28] Yes, what a wonderful world to live in.

Dan McCoy

[42:30] So Gabby's Dollhouse is j'accuse.

[42:33] I mean, and clearly like,

[42:35] we're weird people to make this point

[42:37] since we're still watching this stuff

[42:39] and being silly about it and whatnot.

[42:41] But we're watching it for money

[42:42] to make fun of it, like an adult would.

[42:46] But, you know, like there's borders.

[42:52] There's like lines.

Elliott Kalan

[42:53] I feel like we used to see movies

[42:56] where like Mary Poppins

[42:58] where the message is

[42:59] and Mary Poppins is an old movie.

[43:00] But like the message is

[43:01] don't lose that sense of wonder

[43:03] or excitement in your life.

[43:05] Which I agree with.

[43:06] Now we're over the hill

[43:08] through the looking glass or whatever,

[43:09] whatever you want to call it,

[43:10] where it's like don't grow up ever.

[43:13] Never abandon your dollhouse

Dan McCoy

[43:15] imaginary cat friends.

Stuart Wellington

[43:17] Yeah, yeah.

[43:18] Whereas I feel like the-

[43:20] It would be like it's the end

[43:21] of fucking Labyrinth

[43:22] where instead of leaving

[43:23] her weird little recreated bedroom

[43:25] with the weird pack rat Muppet things,

[43:28] she's like, no, I'll just stay here

[43:29] with all my stuff,

[43:30] all my shit and never leave.

Elliott Kalan

[43:32] Or the end of Toy Story 3

[43:33] where if Andy,

[43:34] instead of giving his toys to a kid,

[43:36] is like, nah,

[43:37] I'm going to hold on to these.

[43:38] These are cool.

[43:39] I want to play with them forever

[43:39] and snatch them out of the hands

[43:41] of a child

[43:42] to take with him to college.

[43:43] When it would be weird.

[43:44] Can you imagine Andy

[43:45] and college

[43:46] having sex with his girlfriend

[43:48] in his dorm room

[43:48] and his toys are just lined up

[43:50] on his desk

[43:51] watching them do it?

[43:52] That would be terrible.

[43:53] That's not a good-

[43:54] we don't want that to happen.

[43:55] We want Andy to give those toys

[43:57] to a kid to play with,

[43:58] not to take them with him to college.

[44:00] Whereas I feel like

[44:01] the message of this movie

[44:03] would be like,

[44:04] take your toys with you to college.

[44:05] Now, let's talk about

[44:06] the Brave Little Toaster

[44:06] where I don't know why

[44:07] he doesn't take those things

[44:08] because it's a toaster,

[44:10] an electric blanket,

[44:11] those are useful items.

[44:12] They're not actually toys.

[44:13] A desk lamp,

[44:14] why doesn't he take those?

[44:15] I don't understand.

Dan McCoy

[44:16] And again,

[44:17] if you're watching

[44:18] any of the videos,

[44:19] many toys

[44:20] wind up behind me.

Stuart Wellington

[44:22] Dan points to tiki mugs

[44:24] and calls them toys.

[44:25] Well, I have over here,

Dan McCoy

[44:28] there's some little-

[44:29] But Dan,

Dan McCoy

[44:29] do you play with those toys

[44:30] or are they collectibles?

[44:30] No, they're just things

[44:32] that I enjoy looking at

[44:33] because they bring back-

[44:34] He calls them objects to art.

Elliott Kalan

[44:37] He does.

[44:38] Actually,

[44:38] sometimes he calls them

[44:38] objects to fart

[44:39] and then he laughs a little bit.

[44:40] Yeah.

[44:41] Anyway, so continue, Stuart.

[44:42] What else happened?

[44:43] So that's my rant

[44:44] for this episode

[44:44] is children grow up someday,

[44:46] become adults,

[44:47] put away childish things.

[44:49] You can still enjoy

[44:50] the feelings.

[44:50] Not the flop house.

[44:51] Not the flop house.

[44:51] No, hold on to that.

[44:52] Hold on to that

[44:53] with a death grip

[44:53] that you never let go of.

[44:55] But the-

Dan McCoy

[44:55] Well, especially since

[44:56] we're aging with it

[44:57] and becoming clearly grumpier

[44:59] as time goes on.

Elliott Kalan

[45:00] I think the idea of like,

[45:01] you should still hold on

[45:02] to the kind of joy

[45:03] that those things

[45:04] once brought to you

[45:05] and apply that.

[45:06] Find ways to achieve that joy

[45:08] so you don't lose wonder,

[45:10] curiosity, beauty,

[45:12] fun from your life.

[45:13] But it doesn't have to be

Dan McCoy

[45:14] the exact same way

[45:15] you did it as a kid.

[45:16] It doesn't have to be

[45:16] the exact same thing.

[45:16] I, as I grow older,

[45:18] I realize that part of my sickness,

[45:20] part of why like I have,

[45:22] I struggle with it sometimes

[45:23] to find as much joy in my life

[45:26] as I used to

[45:28] is like I'm clinging to things

[45:29] that used to bring me joy,

[45:31] seeking the same joy

[45:33] and not realizing like,

[45:34] oh, maybe I just need to transfer

[45:35] over to other things

[45:37] that are more effective

[45:37] for me now.

Elliott Kalan

[45:39] Yeah.

[45:40] So you got to grow.

[45:41] You grow and you,

[45:42] that's the excitement of life

[45:43] is discovery.

Stuart Wellington

[45:44] Like 10 milligrams

[45:45] of weed gummies

[45:46] instead of five.

[45:47] Yeah.

[45:50] Okay.

[45:51] So,

[45:51] So I apologize to everybody

Elliott Kalan

[45:52] who,

[45:53] all the kids who came here

[45:54] to hear us talk about

[45:54] Gabby's dollhouse

[45:55] and then I turned into an old man.

Stuart Wellington

[45:57] So Gabby and the Gabby cats

[45:58] all get kicked out

[45:59] of the dollhouse.

[46:01] Chumsley boards up the windows.

[46:03] So Gabby's like,

[46:04] okay,

[46:04] I don't know if I can do this alone.

[46:06] She sends Pandi

[46:08] and Carlita

[46:09] back to Gigi

[46:11] to try and get Gigi to help.

Elliott Kalan

[46:13] And Carlita is a little too sexy,

[46:16] right?

[46:16] Not in her,

[46:17] the way she looks.

[46:18] That's Carlita's way.

[46:19] But the way,

[46:19] she is just like,

[46:20] she exudes kind of like

[46:21] brat energy,

[46:22] I guess maybe you'd call it.

[46:23] Like just super in your face

[46:24] and like winking at you.

[46:26] And I'm like,

[46:26] this is,

[46:27] this is intense

[46:27] for a cat car.

Stuart Wellington

[46:29] I haven't seen the Cars franchise,

[46:31] but I'm assuming

[46:31] all the Cars ladies

[46:32] look like that,

[46:33] right?

Elliott Kalan

[46:34] I mean,

Stuart Wellington

[46:34] they don't look like cats.

[46:35] I actually don't remember

[46:36] like really sexy Cars ladies.

[46:37] And they have like,

[46:38] like tramp stamps

[46:39] or something.

[46:40] No,

[46:40] they just kind of have

Elliott Kalan

[46:41] like big lips,

[46:42] you know,

[46:42] just lady lips.

[46:43] That's pretty much it.

Stuart Wellington

[46:44] Okay.

[46:45] And do they give birth

Dan McCoy

[46:47] by like a little car

[46:48] coming out of their trunk?

[46:50] That's all still a mystery.

[46:52] Okay.

[46:52] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[46:53] Yeah.

[46:53] Scientists are still

[46:53] working on it.

[46:55] Should I Google it?

[46:56] I wonder if I'll find

[46:56] anything crazy.

[46:57] Yeah,

[46:57] sure.

[46:58] I mean,

[46:58] the thing is the Cars movies

[46:59] Yes,

Elliott Kalan

[47:00] do it.

[47:01] Yeah,

[47:01] do it.

[47:01] This isn't in movie,

[47:02] but they lay eggs.

[47:03] That's how they reproduce.

[47:04] Oh,

Elliott Kalan

[47:04] that actually makes sense.

[47:05] They're actually reptiles.

[47:06] They're cold-blooded creatures.

[47:07] Yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[47:08] Okay.

[47:09] So,

[47:10] Gabby and the rest of the cats

[47:14] find a way to sneak

[47:15] into the house.

[47:17] Chumsley

[47:18] sees her

[47:19] magical cat ears

[47:21] and he realizes,

[47:22] and I guess he overhears

[47:23] or he realizes that

[47:24] they're the

[47:25] font of her power.

[47:27] So,

[47:27] he snatches them off her head.

[47:29] Now,

[47:29] he's in control

[47:30] and the dollhouse

[47:31] starts to change

[47:32] as it's tied to his

[47:34] kind of negative vibes.

[47:38] Again,

[47:39] they're kicked out

[47:39] of the house.

[47:41] Gigi arrives.

[47:43] Gigi comforts Gabby.

[47:45] I think Baby Box

[47:46] gives her a new pair

[47:47] of cat ears

[47:48] after she admits

[47:49] that she's nervous

[47:50] about not wanting

[47:51] to play with her

[47:51] cat toys anymore.

[47:53] She gets older.

[47:55] She's like,

[47:55] Gigi,

[47:56] you still play with toys.

Elliott Kalan

[47:57] How do you do it?

[47:58] And Gigi's like,

[47:59] I just do.

[48:00] Like,

[48:00] I don't,

[48:00] yeah,

[48:00] I just,

[48:01] you know,

[48:01] it doesn't take a lot.

Stuart Wellington

[48:02] And so,

[48:05] they decide

[48:05] to get Vera

[48:07] involved

[48:08] at this point.

[48:08] So,

[48:08] Gabby makes herself

[48:10] normal and human again,

[48:11] terrifying Vera.

[48:13] She convinces Vera

[48:15] to make herself

[48:17] small

[48:17] using a pair

[48:18] of cat ears

[48:19] and that

[48:20] further breaks

[48:21] her concept

[48:22] of reality

[48:23] as they're all

[48:24] teleported

[48:25] into the dollhouse

[48:26] where Chumsley

[48:27] is baking

[48:29] a magical cake

[48:30] but he

[48:31] goes a little bit

[48:32] too ham on it

[48:33] and it causes

[48:34] a magical portal

[48:36] to open

[48:36] sucking in Chumsley,

[48:38] Cakey,

[48:39] and eventually

[48:39] Vera and Gabby.

Dan McCoy

[48:41] Yeah,

[48:41] I mean,

[48:42] I will say

[48:43] it breaks her

[48:43] concept of reality

[48:45] a little bit

[48:46] but it still takes

[48:47] Vera

[48:47] a surprising amount

[48:48] of time

[48:49] to come around

[48:49] to the fact

[48:50] that,

[48:50] like,

[48:51] she needs

[48:52] to play

[48:52] with Chumsley

[48:53] considering that,

[48:55] like,

[48:55] now she knows

[48:55] that,

[48:56] I guess,

[48:57] Chumsley is sentient

[48:58] and needs

[48:59] to be played with

[49:00] or else

[49:00] he will cease

[49:00] to exist

[49:01] and magic

[49:02] will collapse

[49:02] but,

Stuart Wellington

[49:03] That's a lot

[49:04] of weight

[49:04] to put on

[49:05] one brain

[49:05] all at once,

[49:06] right?

[49:07] Yeah,

[49:08] So,

[49:08] speaking of that,

[49:09] they begin,

[49:10] Cakey,

[49:11] Vera,

[49:11] and Gabby

[49:12] traverse

[49:13] a desert,

[49:15] my mistake,

[49:16] dessert landscape.

[49:19] They ride

[49:20] horses

[49:21] in the form of

[49:22] What an unplanned joke.

[49:26] Oh,

[49:26] that's what you think.

[49:27] That's what you think.

[49:28] I did make a note

[49:29] about it.

[49:29] So,

[49:32] they ride around

[49:33] on horses

[49:33] fashioned out

[49:34] of frosted cookies.

[49:36] They get trapped,

[49:38] they ride along

[49:40] a dessert

[49:41] themed

[49:42] like river.

[49:45] They are about

[49:46] to get sucked

[49:46] into a whirlpool

[49:47] when Elliot's

[49:49] favorite dude,

[49:50] Cookie Bobby,

[49:51] chucks them

[49:52] out of the

[49:53] raging watery vortex.

[49:55] Only to get

[49:55] sucked in himself.

[49:57] But he seems

[49:58] fine with it.

[49:58] And you're like,

Stuart Wellington

[49:58] he's probably dead.

[50:00] Nope,

[50:00] he shows up later.

[50:01] He's with us

[50:02] forever now.

[50:03] Yeah,

[50:03] because how could we

Elliott Kalan

[50:03] ever lose

[50:04] Cookie Bobby,

[50:05] a horrifying

[50:06] monstrosity

[50:07] that comes out

[50:07] of nowhere

[50:08] and goes to

[50:08] nowhere.

[50:09] Truly,

[50:10] an incisive

[50:11] statement on the

[50:12] absurdity and

[50:13] meaninglessness

[50:14] of existence.

[50:15] Aren't we all

[50:16] Cookie Bobby

[50:17] at some level?

[50:18] Isn't that the

[50:19] horror we live

[50:19] with daily?

[50:20] Cookie Bobby.

Stuart Wellington

[50:21] So similar to

[50:22] the Dark Tower

[50:23] series,

[50:23] our heroes are

[50:25] traveling across

[50:26] a nightmarish

[50:27] landscape.

[50:27] They're a

[50:28] cotette.

[50:29] Yep,

[50:29] exactly.

[50:31] And they're

[50:32] chasing a

[50:33] bitter,

[50:34] twisted figure,

[50:35] always feeling

[50:36] like they're

[50:37] one step behind

[50:38] him.

[50:38] And in this

[50:38] case,

[50:39] Chumsley,

[50:39] this evil

[50:40] man,

[50:41] or cat

[50:41] doll,

[50:43] he collapses

[50:45] a bridge

[50:46] to try and

[50:47] prevent that

[50:47] from catching

[50:48] him.

[50:49] But the thing

[50:50] is that

[50:50] their presence

[50:52] here,

[50:52] or maybe it's

[50:53] just his,

[50:54] again,

[50:54] his negative

[50:55] vibes,

[50:55] are causing

[50:55] the magic

[50:56] of the

[50:56] dollhouse

[50:57] to collapse,

[50:57] which makes

[50:58] the world

[50:59] they're in

[50:59] start to

[51:00] collapse.

[51:01] And there's

[51:02] a moment

[51:02] where Vera

[51:03] and Chumsley

[51:04] kind of save

[51:05] each other,

[51:05] right?

[51:06] Yeah,

[51:07] very sweet.

[51:08] And,

[51:08] yeah,

[51:08] it's very sweet.

[51:09] And they realize

[51:11] that that's,

[51:12] you know,

[51:12] like Vera

[51:13] realizes the error

[51:14] of her ways.

[51:15] Chumsley

[51:15] realizes the error

[51:16] of his ways.

[51:18] And then we all

[51:18] get sucked back

[51:19] into the dollhouse.

[51:21] Hooray!

[51:21] Power of friendship

[51:22] and love.

[51:23] At this point,

[51:24] we,

[51:25] Gabby and the team,

[51:27] everybody's safe

[51:27] and alive,

[51:28] including Cakey,

[51:29] don't worry.

[51:30] Cookie Bobby

[51:30] shows back up.

[51:31] I thought Cakey got

[51:31] bakey.

[51:32] He did,

[51:33] but that's still fine.

[51:34] That's ideal,

[51:34] actually.

[51:35] I mean,

[51:35] you have to bake a cake,

[51:36] so it's not that bad

[51:37] for a Cakey to get

[51:38] bakey.

[51:38] Yeah,

[51:38] that's a good performance

[51:39] for a Cakey.

[51:40] and they,

[51:42] out from the top

[51:43] of the dollhouse

[51:44] erupts a cat-shaped balloon

[51:46] like a dirigible

[51:47] and they fly

[51:49] all the way

[51:50] back to Gigi's home,

[51:51] leaving Vera

[51:52] returned to human size

[51:55] and Chumsley

[51:57] and the rest

[51:59] of her collectibles

[52:00] there.

[52:01] But you know what?

[52:02] Vera doesn't

[52:03] treat them

[52:04] as collectibles anymore.

[52:05] No,

[52:05] she plays with her stuff,

[52:06] including the three

[52:07] kitty rangers

[52:07] who are still

[52:08] in her home.

[52:09] They do a little dance.

[52:11] Meanwhile,

[52:12] you know,

[52:13] our heroes

[52:15] go back to Gigi's house

[52:16] and Gabby

[52:17] completes work

[52:18] on her greatest creation,

[52:21] a gift for

[52:22] her little sister.

[52:23] That's right,

[52:24] a dog-themed,

[52:25] dollhouse.

[52:27] A dog house,

[52:28] if you will.

[52:28] I won't.

[52:30] So that

[52:30] is the end.

[52:31] That's the tale

[52:32] of Gabby's dollhouse.

[52:33] Gabby's dollhouse.

[52:35] Anything bad

[52:36] happen to anybody?

[52:36] No,

[52:37] everybody came out okay,

[52:38] right?

[52:38] Everybody's better off.

[52:39] to be honest,

Elliott Kalan

[52:40] one of the things

[52:41] that I thought

[52:41] that I liked

[52:42] about this movie,

[52:43] it was not for me,

[52:43] it was also,

[52:44] it's like,

[52:45] yeah,

[52:45] they didn't feel

[52:46] the need to like

[52:46] make people

[52:48] in real danger,

[52:50] you know,

[52:50] or to be like,

[52:51] the world's gonna end

[52:52] if we da-da-da,

[52:53] like,

[52:53] and even,

[52:54] or they didn't have to

[52:54] punish Chumsley

[52:55] or anything like that.

[52:56] I like any kids movie.

[52:57] they don't have to like

Stuart Wellington

[52:57] slice off a paw.

[52:59] Exactly.

Elliott Kalan

[53:00] Or like,

[53:00] hurl him into a,

[53:01] like,

[53:01] trap him somewhere.

[53:02] I like any kids movie

[53:04] that is about,

[53:05] as much as I don't like

[53:06] the message of

[53:07] never grow up

[53:08] and always play

[53:08] with your toys,

[53:09] I do like the message of

[53:10] let's give love

[53:12] to this person

[53:13] rather than

[53:14] punish me.

Stuart Wellington

[53:15] It's the whole

[53:16] Spirited Away thing,

[53:17] man.

[53:17] More movies should be

[53:18] like Spirited Away.

Dan McCoy

[53:20] We're already

[53:20] sliding into it

[53:21] like we're going down

[53:23] a,

[53:23] you know,

[53:24] a hill of frosting.

[53:25] So let's get into

[53:26] Final Judgments.

[53:27] Is this a good,

[53:28] bad movie,

[53:28] a bad,

[53:29] bad movie,

[53:29] a movie you kind of like?

[53:30] As frequently happens,

[53:32] this is not easy

[53:34] to put into our categories.

[53:35] Doesn't fit our categories.

Elliott Kalan

[53:36] Our very not good categories

[53:38] that often don't work.

Stuart Wellington

[53:39] But the thing is,

[53:40] we can't fucking

[53:41] change them.

[53:42] I know.

[53:42] No, we can't.

[53:43] They were handed down

[53:43] on stone tablets.

Elliott Kalan

[53:47] And if we don't play

[53:48] with those categories,

[53:49] the categories will go

[53:49] insane and take over

[53:51] the dollhouse, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[53:52] Well, what I want to say

[53:53] is like clearly,

[53:54] clearly not made for me,

[53:56] not intended for me,

[53:57] should not have been

[53:58] watched by me.

Stuart Wellington

[54:00] In fact,

[54:01] the fact that you did

[54:01] watch it means

[54:02] you're now on a watch list.

[54:04] Did you guys watch it

[54:05] with the interactive

[54:06] sing-along mode enabled?

[54:08] No.

[54:08] I didn't even know

[54:09] that was an option.

[54:10] Oh, yeah.

Dan McCoy

[54:11] I would have done it.

[54:12] No, I would just,

[54:13] like for me,

[54:14] for me,

[54:15] it's a bad, bad movie.

[54:16] I think actually

[54:17] for a kid,

[54:20] I, you know,

[54:21] I kind of like it.

[54:22] Like, honestly,

[54:24] for what it is,

[54:25] it has a lot

[54:26] of imagination.

[54:27] There's a lot

[54:28] of strange stuff

[54:29] going on.

[54:30] There's funny stuff

[54:31] around the edges

[54:31] where I'm like,

[54:32] that was a little

[54:32] weirder and funnier

[54:33] than it needed to be.

[54:35] It's not to the level

[54:36] that any adult

[54:37] is going to enjoy it.

[54:38] But, you know,

[54:39] bad, bad for an adult.

[54:40] I'd say, actually,

[54:41] I wouldn't mind it

[54:42] for a kid.

[54:42] There's not too many

[54:44] dirty jokes, right?

[54:46] No, other than, like,

[54:48] kiddie wagon

[54:48] as the,

[54:49] as the license plate,

[54:51] I wouldn't say

[54:52] there really are any.

Stuart Wellington

[54:53] Yeah.

[54:54] And,

[54:55] and cakey got

[54:56] bakey, I think.

[54:57] That's fine, right?

[54:58] It doesn't really

[54:58] mean anything.

[54:59] You know,

[54:59] it's,

Elliott Kalan

[55:00] I don't even think it's,

[55:01] it's not like a

[55:01] getting baked joke.

[55:03] No, I mean,

[55:03] it's just like,

Stuart Wellington

[55:04] just that two words rhyme.

[55:06] And it does just show

[55:06] like a little,

[55:07] like a cupcake cat's

[55:09] weirdly human-shaped

[55:11] butt cheeks,

[55:12] which I think is fine.

[55:13] Like, kids have butt cheeks.

Elliott Kalan

[55:14] Exactly.

[55:15] If there's anything

[55:15] kids know about already,

[55:17] it is what butts look like.

[55:18] They have them.

[55:18] They're very interested in them.

[55:20] I think it's very funny.

[55:21] And they think it's funny.

[55:21] Yeah, I'm gonna,

[55:22] I'm gonna go with Dan

[55:23] and say, like,

[55:23] again, for me,

[55:24] I did not enjoy watching it.

[55:26] But as a kid's movie,

[55:27] I do kind of like it

[55:28] because the message

[55:29] is mostly positive.

[55:30] It's really energetic

[55:31] and upbeat.

[55:32] It is not,

[55:33] it felt to me like

[55:34] I was being drowned

[55:35] in candy,

[55:36] but kids like that.

[55:37] So,

[55:38] I just don't.

[55:39] It's just not for me.

Stuart Wellington

[55:40] Yeah, I mean,

[55:41] I think,

[55:42] I think it helps

[55:43] that our,

[55:44] our antagonist character

[55:46] is at least somewhat fun

[55:48] and,

[55:49] yeah,

[55:50] the,

[55:50] I do like that

[55:51] all the cat designs

[55:53] are all totally different

[55:55] and kind of insane.

[55:57] So,

[55:57] yeah.

[55:58] Yeah,

[55:59] I'll agree with you guys.

[56:00] We're all in agreement.

[56:01] It's what,

[56:02] kind of liked

[56:03] or not for us?

[56:04] I think it's,

Elliott Kalan

[56:05] I think it's a movie

[56:05] we kind of liked

[56:06] for other people,

[56:07] for younger people.

[56:08] Yeah.

[56:08] That's like my mom said

[56:09] when she saw

[56:10] Hedwig and the Angry

[56:11] Edge years ago.

[56:11] This is for younger people

[56:12] is what she told me.

[56:14] The,

[56:15] the,

[56:16] I think it was a real

[56:17] refreshing thing to me

[56:19] when I saw the,

[56:20] I saw the trailer for this

[56:21] before some other movie.

[56:22] It's probably Bad Guys 2

[56:22] or something like that.

[56:23] And the,

[56:24] and I immediately was like,

[56:26] oh,

[56:26] so Kristen Wiig's playing

[56:27] the villain who's going

[56:27] to try to like make money

[56:28] off the cats

[56:29] or something like that

[56:30] or,

[56:31] you know,

[56:31] and,

[56:31] it was a really refreshing

[56:32] to be like,

[56:32] oh no,

[56:33] she just likes cats

[56:34] and she just needs,

[56:35] she needs to re,

[56:36] reconnect with her childhood

[56:38] self,

[56:38] I guess.

[56:39] But like,

[56:39] it's not her trying

[56:40] to misuse,

[56:41] she's not really a villain

[56:41] at all.

[56:42] No.

Dan McCoy

[56:43] She's coded as a villain

[56:44] as soon as she shows up

[56:46] and then she's not a villain.

[56:47] She buys it.

[56:47] Yeah.

[56:47] And that's,

[56:48] you know,

[56:49] like the meanest thing

[56:49] she does is like

[56:50] buying the dollhouse

[56:52] out from under

[56:53] a child

[56:54] who should,

[56:55] you know,

[56:55] who would more enjoy

[56:56] the dollhouse

[56:56] in its intended form.

Stuart Wellington

[56:58] She just needs to like

[56:59] recalibrate her concept

[57:01] of toys,

[57:02] right guys?

[57:03] Yeah,

[57:03] exactly.

[57:03] Yeah,

[57:04] the movie,

[57:04] Toys.

[57:04] Toys,

[57:05] the movie.

[57:05] She's got to understand

[57:06] that it's meant

[57:08] to be not enjoyable.

Dan McCoy

[57:13] It's supposed to be

[57:14] unpleasant.

[57:14] Yeah.

[57:15] Mission accomplished.

Elliott Kalan

[57:18] Was that why

[57:19] George W. Bush

[57:20] was on that aircraft carrier

[57:21] with the mission

[57:21] accomplished banner?

[57:22] We have managed

[57:23] to make toys.

[57:24] It is a big movie

[57:25] with good people in it

[57:26] that is not enjoyable.

[57:28] We did it.

Dan McCoy

[57:29] It looks really fun,

[57:31] but it ain't.

[57:32] It looks not cool.

[57:33] You'll think

[57:34] it's going to be fun.

[57:36] I don't know

[57:37] what voice I'm doing now.

Elliott Kalan

[57:38] We have managed

[57:39] to take grimness

[57:41] and bleakness

[57:42] and put a thin layer

[57:43] of whimsy on the top

[57:44] to convince you

[57:46] that it will be fun,

[57:47] but it is not.

Dan McCoy

[57:48] It's going to pretend

[57:49] to have an anti-war message,

[57:50] but at the end,

[57:51] the good toys go to war,

[57:53] so who knows?

Stuart Wellington

[57:54] But thematically,

[57:55] it still works

[57:56] because those action scenes

[57:57] are terrible.

[57:59] It does not make you

Elliott Kalan

[58:01] want to be involved

[58:02] in them.

[58:02] You will be disappointed

[58:04] at the end

[58:04] that you don't get

[58:05] a really good view,

[58:07] a good visual

[58:08] of the kind of

[58:08] octopus underwater toy

[58:10] that is dangerous

[58:11] at the end.

[58:12] You guys remember that,

[58:13] right?

[58:13] There's some kind

[58:14] of killer toy

[58:14] or something

[58:15] that you barely

[58:15] get to see.

[58:17] Killer toys.

[58:18] If ever a movie

[58:19] was misbegotten.

[58:21] It is toys.

S4

[58:27] Max Fun Meetup Day

[58:29] is on Thursday,

[58:29] April 23rd.

[58:30] Max Funsters

[58:31] from all over

[58:32] are getting together

[58:33] to hang out

[58:33] and celebrate

[58:34] their favorite podcasts.

[58:35] Want to go and meet

[58:36] some friends

[58:36] who like similar stuff

[58:37] and care about

[58:38] the same things as you?

[58:39] Head to

[58:39] maximumfun.org

[58:41] slash meetup

[58:41] to see where

[58:42] and when

[58:42] your local meetup is.

[58:44] Don't see one nearby?

[58:46] Host your own

[58:46] and make some new pals.

[58:47] All you need to do

[58:48] is pick a place

[58:49] that can hold

[58:49] a small group.

[58:50] A bar,

[58:51] cafe,

[58:51] park,

[58:52] library,

[58:52] wherever.

[58:53] Then fill out the form

[58:54] at maximumfun.org

[58:55] slash meetup.

[58:56] We'll add you to the page

[58:57] and help get the word out.

[58:58] So go to

[58:59] maximumfun.org

[59:00] slash meetup

[59:01] and maybe we'll see you

[59:02] on April 23rd.

S5

[59:07] Hello,

[59:08] this is Alden Ford

Stuart Wellington

[59:09] and Mujanzo Fagari.

S5

[59:10] Two of the creators

[59:11] of Mission to Zix,

[59:12] your favorite

[59:13] improvised,

[59:13] obsessively sound

[59:14] designed sci-fi sitcom

[59:15] here on the MaxFun Network.

[59:17] And the news is

[59:18] we're back!

S4

[59:20] With an all new

[59:20] miniseries set

Elliott Kalan

[59:21] in the Zix universe,

[59:22] the young old

[59:23] Derf Chronicles.

[59:24] Yeah.

[59:25] Will Derf find

[59:26] his own killer

[59:26] before it's too late?

[59:28] Ooh.

[59:28] To find out

[59:29] how that question

[59:30] could possibly make sense,

[59:31] well, you just have

[59:32] to tune in.

S5

[59:32] Yeah.

[59:32] And as always,

[59:33] it's ambitious

[59:34] and labor intensive

[59:35] to a frankly

[59:36] absurd degree.

[59:37] Indeed.

[59:38] So if you are looking

[59:39] for a little break

[59:39] from your own galaxy,

[59:41] we would love

[59:41] for you to check it out.

Elliott Kalan

[59:42] That's the young old

[59:43] Derf Chronicles.

[59:44] Search Mission to Zix,

[59:45] Z-Y-X-X

[59:46] in your podcast app.

S5

[59:47] Or on MaximumFun.org.

Elliott Kalan

[59:49] Keep it fresh.

Dan McCoy

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[59:54] is brought to you

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Elliott Kalan

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Dan McCoy

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[1:00:20] I mean,

Dan McCoy

[1:00:20] the fact is,

Elliott Kalan

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Dan McCoy

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Stuart Wellington

[1:01:19] We've

[1:01:20] also got

[1:01:20] some

[1:01:20] jumbotrons.

[1:01:24] The first

[1:01:25] one is

[1:01:25] Jared

[1:01:27] K.

[1:01:27] Anderson's

[1:01:28] creepy,

[1:01:29] cozy,

[1:01:30] cryptid novel,

[1:01:31] Strange Animals,

[1:01:32] was called

[1:01:33] A Wholly

[1:01:34] Captivating

[1:01:34] Tale of

[1:01:35] Magic and

[1:01:35] Nature

[1:01:36] by Publishers

[1:01:37] Weekly.

[1:01:37] In her

[1:01:38] five-star

[1:01:38] Goodreads

[1:01:39] review,

[1:01:40] fantasy

[1:01:40] legend

[1:01:40] Robin Hobb

[1:01:41] wrote,

[1:01:42] It's a

[1:01:43] story that

[1:01:43] stops to

[1:01:44] think.

[1:01:45] And Max

[1:01:45] Fund's own

[1:01:46] Justin

[1:01:47] McElroy

[1:01:47] wrote,

[1:01:48] Anderson

[1:01:48] has conceived

[1:01:49] of such a

[1:01:50] rich world

[1:01:51] and such

[1:01:52] a textured

[1:01:52] mythology.

[1:01:54] In it,

[1:01:54] a crow

[1:01:55] undoes

[1:01:56] a man's

[1:01:56] death

[1:01:56] on a

[1:01:57] city

[1:01:57] street

[1:01:57] and gives

[1:01:58] him an

[1:01:58] acorn.

[1:01:59] After that,

[1:02:00] things get

[1:02:01] weird.

[1:02:02] That's

[1:02:02] Strange Animals

[1:02:03] by Jared K.

[1:02:04] Anderson.

[1:02:04] Find it

[1:02:05] from

[1:02:05] Ballantyne Books

[1:02:06] at your

[1:02:07] favorite

[1:02:07] bookstore.

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:08] And we

[1:02:09] have a

[1:02:09] jumbotron.

[1:02:10] This is a

[1:02:10] message for

[1:02:10] future Dr.

[1:02:11] Matthew Coleman

[1:02:12] Stout.

[1:02:13] And it

[1:02:13] comes from

[1:02:13] Eric Stout.

[1:02:15] And Eric

[1:02:15] writes,

[1:02:16] Words cannot

[1:02:16] express how

[1:02:17] immensely proud

[1:02:17] I am of all

[1:02:18] your accomplishments.

[1:02:19] Hopefully,

[1:02:19] hearing them

[1:02:20] from the

[1:02:20] peaches can

[1:02:20] convey it

[1:02:21] better.

[1:02:22] Throughout

[1:02:22] our

[1:02:22] childhood and

[1:02:23] even now,

[1:02:23] you have

[1:02:23] done

[1:02:23] everything at

[1:02:24] 110% and

[1:02:25] nothing less,

[1:02:26] be it

[1:02:26] guitar,

[1:02:27] baking,

[1:02:27] Lego,

[1:02:28] gunpla,

[1:02:29] or school.

[1:02:29] I'm proud to

[1:02:30] call you my

[1:02:30] brother and

[1:02:31] wish you the

[1:02:31] best of luck,

[1:02:32] doctor.

[1:02:34] Very nice.

[1:02:35] We got a new

[1:02:35] doctor,

[1:02:35] everybody.

[1:02:36] A doctor.

[1:02:37] And not one of

[1:02:37] those wasteful

[1:02:38] doctors that

[1:02:39] just bounce

[1:02:39] around in

[1:02:40] their TARDIS,

[1:02:41] not helping

[1:02:41] anybody.

[1:02:43] Wasteful.

[1:02:45] Congratulations,

[1:02:46] doctor.

[1:02:47] Doctor.

[1:02:49] Hey, Dan,

[1:02:49] before we move

[1:02:50] on, can I

[1:02:50] plug a couple

[1:02:51] of my things?

[1:02:51] Yeah, please

[1:02:51] do.

[1:02:52] I just got

[1:02:52] three things

[1:02:53] to plug.

[1:02:53] I've got my

[1:02:54] new comic book,

[1:02:54] Barbarian Behind

[1:02:55] Bars.

[1:02:55] It's on store

[1:02:56] shelves now,

[1:02:56] unless it's sold

[1:02:57] out.

[1:02:57] I got Harley

[1:02:58] Quinn from

[1:02:58] DC Comics.

[1:02:59] I'm still writing

[1:02:59] every month on

[1:03:00] comic book store

[1:03:01] shelves now.

[1:03:02] And if you

[1:03:02] want to know

[1:03:02] about how to

[1:03:03] write jokes,

[1:03:03] why not check

[1:03:04] on my book,

[1:03:04] Joke Farming,

[1:03:05] How to Write

[1:03:05] Comedy and

[1:03:05] Other Nonsense

[1:03:06] at the University

[1:03:07] of Chicago Press

[1:03:07] while we record

[1:03:08] this.

[1:03:09] It is only $3.99

[1:03:10] for the e-book

[1:03:11] version.

[1:03:12] I don't know

[1:03:12] if that will

[1:03:13] still be going

[1:03:13] on when this

[1:03:14] episode comes

[1:03:14] out, but try

[1:03:15] it.

[1:03:16] Those are my

[1:03:16] plugs.

Stuart Wellington

[1:03:17] And I would

[1:03:17] also like to

[1:03:18] do a brief

[1:03:19] plug.

[1:03:20] My wife has

[1:03:22] opened up a

[1:03:23] fitness studio

[1:03:23] in Sunset Park,

[1:03:25] Brooklyn.

[1:03:25] It's next to

[1:03:25] our bar minis.

[1:03:26] This fitness

[1:03:27] studio is called

[1:03:28] Jiggle Studio.

[1:03:29] It is a

[1:03:30] movement-focused,

[1:03:31] size-inclusive,

[1:03:33] everybody-inclusive

[1:03:34] fitness studio.

[1:03:37] If you are not

[1:03:38] in Brooklyn,

[1:03:38] first off,

[1:03:39] if you're in

[1:03:39] Brooklyn,

[1:03:39] hey, you should

[1:03:40] come by and

[1:03:40] take a class.

[1:03:41] It's really fun.

[1:03:41] We now offer

[1:03:42] memberships and

[1:03:44] all kinds of

[1:03:44] cool things.

[1:03:45] But if you're

[1:03:46] not in Brooklyn

[1:03:46] and you would

[1:03:47] like to support

[1:03:48] or at least

[1:03:48] show some

[1:03:49] support to

[1:03:50] Jiggle and

[1:03:50] its message,

[1:03:51] we do now

[1:03:52] have an

[1:03:52] online merch

[1:03:53] store.

[1:03:54] Just go to

[1:03:55] jigglestudio.printful.me.

[1:04:03] And we have

[1:04:04] some tank tops,

[1:04:05] shirts,

[1:04:06] sweatshirts,

[1:04:06] all kinds of

[1:04:07] cool stuff.

[1:04:07] So you can

[1:04:07] show off,

[1:04:08] you know,

[1:04:09] what a cool

[1:04:10] person you are

[1:04:11] by picking up

[1:04:12] some Jiggle

[1:04:12] merch.

Dan McCoy

[1:04:16] I forgot to

[1:04:17] ask Stuart.

[1:04:18] Yeah.

[1:04:18] The extra

[1:04:20] cards,

[1:04:20] the extra

[1:04:21] cards that you

[1:04:21] have over there.

[1:04:22] Is that just

[1:04:22] to keep us

[1:04:23] guessing?

[1:04:24] No,

[1:04:24] I just

[1:04:25] printed off

Stuart Wellington

[1:04:25] a lot and

[1:04:26] I was

[1:04:27] scrambling to

[1:04:27] get my

[1:04:28] notes down

[1:04:28] on the

[1:04:28] card so I

[1:04:29] didn't edit.

[1:04:30] I didn't

[1:04:30] take out the

[1:04:31] ones I

[1:04:31] didn't.

[1:04:31] Yeah,

Dan McCoy

[1:04:32] yeah,

[1:04:32] yeah.

[1:04:32] I was like,

[1:04:33] I wonder if

[1:04:34] he's just

[1:04:34] doing it so

[1:04:35] we don't

[1:04:36] know how

[1:04:37] close we

[1:04:37] are to the

[1:04:38] end.

[1:04:38] Yeah,

[1:04:38] yeah,

[1:04:38] maybe.

[1:04:39] You know,

[1:04:40] it's like

[1:04:40] speaking of

[1:04:41] fitness,

[1:04:43] it's like

[1:04:43] how if

[1:04:45] I'm at

[1:04:46] yoga and

[1:04:46] I can't

[1:04:47] see the

[1:04:47] tiny clock

[1:04:48] up front,

[1:04:49] it's kind

[1:04:49] of better

[1:04:50] because I

[1:04:50] don't know

[1:04:50] where we are

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:54] in it.

[1:04:55] This

[1:04:55] opportunity

[1:04:56] is the

[1:04:56] one shot

[1:04:57] at yoga,

[1:04:57] mom's

[1:04:58] spaghetti.

[1:04:58] I started

Stuart Wellington

[1:04:59] taking hot

[1:04:59] yoga again

[1:05:00] and it's

[1:05:02] been really

[1:05:02] great.

[1:05:02] It's been

[1:05:03] totally

[1:05:03] annihilating

[1:05:04] me and

[1:05:04] there's been

[1:05:05] times where

[1:05:06] this last

[1:05:07] time there's

[1:05:09] a guy working

[1:05:09] out next to

[1:05:10] me and

[1:05:10] while I was

[1:05:11] like during

[1:05:11] one of the

[1:05:12] rest periods,

[1:05:12] I'm like,

[1:05:13] you know,

[1:05:14] in child's

[1:05:14] pose,

[1:05:14] just kind

[1:05:15] of like

[1:05:15] fighting for

[1:05:15] my life,

[1:05:16] trying to

[1:05:16] survive and

[1:05:17] I look

[1:05:17] over and

[1:05:17] this dude

[1:05:18] is next

[1:05:18] to me doing

[1:05:19] fucking

[1:05:19] handstands

[1:05:20] shit.

[1:05:20] I'm like,

[1:05:21] what?

[1:05:22] Yeah,

Dan McCoy

[1:05:23] people can

[1:05:24] get real

[1:05:24] strong doing

[1:05:25] it.

[1:05:26] Anyway,

[1:05:27] let's move

[1:05:27] on.

[1:05:28] We've gone

[1:05:28] down a

[1:05:29] cul-de-sac.

[1:05:30] Let's reverse

[1:05:31] the car.

[1:05:31] Let's move

[1:05:32] on to letters.

[1:05:32] K-turn,

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:33] K-turn,

[1:05:33] K-turn.

[1:05:34] Let's get

[1:05:34] out of there.

[1:05:35] Yeah,

Dan McCoy

[1:05:35] three-point

[1:05:35] turnabout.

[1:05:36] This letter

[1:05:37] is from

[1:05:37] Spencer,

[1:05:38] last name

[1:05:38] with Held.

[1:05:38] For hire?

[1:05:39] Yeah.

[1:05:40] It's Robert

[1:05:41] Urick.

[1:05:42] The late

[1:05:43] Robert Urick.

[1:05:44] Robert Urick

[1:05:45] acid.

[1:05:46] Time travel

[1:05:47] shows up.

[1:05:48] We just say

[1:05:48] things,

[1:05:49] you know,

[1:05:49] it doesn't

[1:05:49] matter.

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:50] Hey,

[1:05:50] man,

[1:05:51] words sound

[1:05:51] like other

[1:05:52] words.

[1:05:52] How many

[1:05:52] times do

[1:05:52] I have to

[1:05:53] say it,

[1:05:53] you know?

Dan McCoy

[1:05:54] Time travel

[1:05:54] shows up

[1:05:55] everywhere in

[1:05:56] film.

[1:05:56] Everywhere.

[1:05:57] Sure does.

[1:05:57] Everywhere.

[1:05:58] Every movie.

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:59] All movies

[1:05:59] are traveling

[1:06:00] forward through

[1:06:01] time at the

[1:06:01] rate of one

[1:06:02] second per

[1:06:02] second.

[1:06:02] Guys,

[1:06:03] that was the

[1:06:03] joke I was

[1:06:03] going to make.

Dan McCoy

[1:06:05] You should

[1:06:06] have been

[1:06:06] faster.

[1:06:06] I time

[1:06:07] traveled ahead

[1:06:08] and got to it.

[1:06:09] Shows up

[1:06:10] everywhere in

[1:06:10] film.

[1:06:11] Sometimes

[1:06:11] brilliantly,

[1:06:12] oftentimes

[1:06:12] not.

[1:06:13] What are the

[1:06:14] best slash

[1:06:15] most clever

[1:06:15] uses of time

[1:06:16] travel in movies

[1:06:17] you kind of

[1:06:17] like?

[1:06:18] What are

[1:06:18] some bad,

[1:06:19] bad examples?

[1:06:20] What method

[1:06:21] of time

[1:06:21] travel do you

[1:06:22] find the

[1:06:22] most plausible?

[1:06:24] Keep on

[1:06:25] flopping,

[1:06:26] Spencer.

[1:06:26] Last name

[1:06:27] withheld.

Stuart Wellington

[1:06:30] I think I'm

[1:06:31] going to say

[1:06:32] one of the

[1:06:33] ones that I

[1:06:33] like the

[1:06:33] most.

[1:06:34] I really

[1:06:35] like Christopher

[1:06:37] Nolan's movie

[1:06:37] Tenet because

[1:06:39] the time travel

[1:06:39] in it is so

[1:06:40] long.

[1:06:42] You're just

[1:06:43] like,

[1:06:43] yeah,

[1:06:44] you're going

[1:06:44] backwards

[1:06:44] now.

[1:06:45] You're not

[1:06:46] like jumping

[1:06:48] around and

[1:06:48] you're like,

[1:06:48] nope,

[1:06:49] it feels the

[1:06:50] same to you.

[1:06:51] It's just time

[1:06:52] is going

[1:06:52] backwards,

[1:06:53] baby.

[1:06:53] So when a car

[1:06:54] chases you,

[1:06:55] it chases you

[1:06:55] in reverse.

[1:06:56] It grew on

Dan McCoy

[1:07:03] me.

[1:07:04] I got to

[1:07:04] say that.

[1:07:05] It might

[1:07:06] still be my

[1:07:07] least favorite

[1:07:07] of his.

[1:07:08] I tend to

[1:07:08] like his

[1:07:08] movies,

[1:07:09] but seeing

[1:07:10] it when it

[1:07:11] was briefly

[1:07:12] re-released

[1:07:13] because it

[1:07:13] was like,

[1:07:14] let's take

[1:07:14] another shot

[1:07:15] at this

[1:07:15] since COVID

[1:07:16] happened the

[1:07:16] first time.

[1:07:17] Seeing it

[1:07:18] in the theater

[1:07:18] where I was

[1:07:19] forced to

[1:07:20] pay attention

[1:07:20] and it was

[1:07:20] big and

[1:07:21] loud,

[1:07:21] I'm like,

[1:07:22] okay,

[1:07:23] I know I'm

[1:07:23] not going

[1:07:24] to follow

[1:07:24] this.

[1:07:25] On that

[1:07:25] level,

[1:07:26] I'm enjoying

[1:07:26] what's

[1:07:26] going

[1:07:27] on.

[1:07:27] But even

Elliott Kalan

[1:07:27] not going

[1:07:28] to follow

[1:07:28] it.

[1:07:28] There's not

[1:07:29] that much

[1:07:29] to follow.

[1:07:29] I feel like

[1:07:30] Christian Nolan

[1:07:31] has really,

[1:07:32] at times,

[1:07:33] he makes

[1:07:33] movies that

[1:07:34] seem more

[1:07:35] complicated than

[1:07:35] they are,

[1:07:36] like Interstellar

[1:07:37] is like that,

[1:07:37] where it's

[1:07:38] not really

[1:07:38] that complicated,

[1:07:39] but it makes

[1:07:40] you think it's

[1:07:40] more complicated

[1:07:41] than it is.

Stuart Wellington

[1:07:41] It's basically

[1:07:42] a James Bond

[1:07:43] movie with

[1:07:43] some extra

[1:07:44] stuff in it.

[1:07:44] Yes,

[1:07:45] exactly.

[1:07:46] Which I don't

[1:07:47] hate.

Elliott Kalan

[1:07:48] I like it.

[1:07:49] If I went

[1:07:49] into it with

[1:07:50] that mindset,

[1:07:51] I think I

[1:07:51] probably would

[1:07:51] have enjoyed

[1:07:52] it more,

[1:07:52] but I was

[1:07:53] expecting

[1:07:53] something more

[1:07:54] than I got.

[1:07:55] So maybe I'll

[1:07:55] see Tenet again

[1:07:55] someday.

[1:07:56] But I want

[1:07:57] two time travel

[1:07:58] movies that I

[1:07:58] think do it

[1:07:59] really well,

[1:08:00] and partly

[1:08:00] because they

[1:08:00] are low

[1:08:01] budget enough

[1:08:01] that they

[1:08:02] don't have,

[1:08:02] they're not

[1:08:02] special effects-y

[1:08:03] movies,

[1:08:04] are, of

[1:08:04] course,

[1:08:05] Primer and

[1:08:06] Time Crimes,

[1:08:07] which are

[1:08:07] those great

[1:08:07] time travel

[1:08:08] movies.

[1:08:08] Oh, hell yeah.

[1:08:09] Yeah.

[1:08:09] Where it's more

[1:08:10] about,

[1:08:10] it's less about

[1:08:11] the act of

[1:08:12] traveling through

[1:08:12] time and more

[1:08:13] about kind of

[1:08:13] like the effect

[1:08:14] of traveling

[1:08:15] through time,

[1:08:16] you know,

[1:08:16] something like

[1:08:16] that.

Dan McCoy

[1:08:17] Yeah.

[1:08:17] I'm going to

[1:08:18] mention probably

[1:08:20] the first movie

[1:08:21] that everyone

[1:08:22] thinks about

[1:08:22] with time travel

[1:08:23] these days.

[1:08:24] Time after time?

[1:08:25] Yeah.

[1:08:26] I said these

[1:08:27] days because I'm

[1:08:28] not like,

[1:08:28] I don't want

[1:08:29] LA to be like

[1:08:29] the time machine

[1:08:30] and then you

[1:08:31] said time after

[1:08:31] time.

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:32] But I said it

[1:08:33] as a joke

[1:08:33] because I'm like,

[1:08:34] nobody thinks

[1:08:34] about that movie

[1:08:35] anymore.

Dan McCoy

[1:08:36] No, still

[1:08:37] Back to the Future,

[1:08:38] like it's just

[1:08:39] Sure, sure, yeah.

[1:08:40] As like pure

[1:08:40] entertainment is so

[1:08:41] much fun.

[1:08:42] It's just like

[1:08:42] everything works

[1:08:44] in that movie.

[1:08:45] Works so well

[1:08:46] that you don't

[1:08:47] really think

[1:08:47] about how much

[1:08:48] of it is about

[1:08:48] not sleeping

[1:08:50] with your mom.

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:52] My favorite joke

[1:08:53] in the TV show

[1:08:54] Glow is still

[1:08:55] Marc Maron's

[1:08:56] character being

[1:08:57] like, I wrote

[1:08:57] this script but

[1:08:58] Hollywood would

[1:08:59] never make it

[1:08:59] because it's so

[1:09:00] fucked up.

[1:09:00] So this guy

[1:09:01] goes back in

[1:09:02] time and his

[1:09:02] mom wants to

[1:09:03] fuck him and

[1:09:03] they're like,

[1:09:04] that was the

[1:09:05] number one movie

[1:09:05] in the country.

Dan McCoy

[1:09:09] Just as pure

[1:09:11] time travel

[1:09:11] entertainment,

[1:09:12] I love that.

[1:09:13] As like very

[1:09:13] silly time travel,

[1:09:15] I love

[1:09:15] at the end

[1:09:16] of the

[1:09:16] Bill and

[1:09:17] Ted's

[1:09:18] Excellent

[1:09:19] Adventure

[1:09:19] when they're

[1:09:20] like,

Elliott Kalan

[1:09:20] we'll just

[1:09:21] remember to

[1:09:21] come back

[1:09:22] and put the

[1:09:23] key.

[1:09:23] I love that.

[1:09:24] Bill and

[1:09:25] Ted does a

[1:09:25] better job

[1:09:26] of doing a

[1:09:26] real time

[1:09:27] travel movie

[1:09:27] than most

[1:09:28] other movies

[1:09:29] even though

[1:09:29] it's a

[1:09:29] comedy.

[1:09:30] So we'll

[1:09:30] just leave

[1:09:31] it here.

[1:09:31] How we

[1:09:31] know?

[1:09:32] We'll just

[1:09:33] know to go

[1:09:33] back and have

[1:09:34] done it.

[1:09:34] It's such a

[1:09:35] great way to

[1:09:35] handle that

[1:09:36] situation.

[1:09:37] But in

Dan McCoy

[1:09:37] terms of

[1:09:37] plausibility,

[1:09:39] I like the

[1:09:41] 12 Monkeys

[1:09:42] view of it

[1:09:42] where it's like,

[1:09:43] okay,

[1:09:43] well you can't

[1:09:44] really change

[1:09:44] anything because

[1:09:45] it's already

[1:09:45] happened.

[1:09:47] I like the

[1:09:48] Avengers Endgame

[1:09:51] view of it

[1:09:51] where it's like,

[1:09:52] well, we're not

[1:09:53] going to change

[1:09:53] the future.

[1:09:53] We're going to

[1:09:54] split timelines

[1:09:55] because that makes

[1:09:57] more sense to me,

[1:09:58] both of those

[1:09:59] things.

[1:09:59] Because if there

[1:10:00] was real time

[1:10:01] travel, there'd be

[1:10:03] so many holes in

[1:10:04] baby Hitler's

[1:10:05] cradle right now.

Stuart Wellington

[1:10:07] You'd like to

[1:10:08] think so.

[1:10:09] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:10:10] Who knows?

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:11] You're not going

[1:10:11] to shoot a baby,

[1:10:12] Dan.

[1:10:12] You smother a

[1:10:13] baby.

[1:10:13] Okay.

Dan McCoy

[1:10:15] But yeah, I

[1:10:16] mean, I don't

[1:10:16] really have like

[1:10:17] examples of like

[1:10:18] bad time travel

[1:10:20] spring to mind.

[1:10:21] Okay.

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:21] I think the

[1:10:22] thing that gets

[1:10:22] to me is when

[1:10:24] you see a movie

[1:10:25] where, so I

[1:10:26] like the movie

[1:10:27] Frequency.

[1:10:28] Like that's a

[1:10:28] good movie.

[1:10:29] But that movie

[1:10:29] does bad time

[1:10:30] travel stuff where

[1:10:31] it's like something

[1:10:31] will happen in

[1:10:32] the past and

[1:10:33] the future will,

[1:10:34] or the present

[1:10:34] will change

[1:10:35] instantly as if in

[1:10:37] real time when

[1:10:38] in reality it

[1:10:39] would have always

[1:10:39] been that way.

[1:10:40] So something

[1:10:40] where like, I

[1:10:41] think it's in

[1:10:41] that movie where

[1:10:42] a character like

[1:10:43] loses a finger or

[1:10:44] something in the

[1:10:44] past and then

[1:10:45] suddenly their

[1:10:45] finger like

[1:10:46] disappears in the

[1:10:47] present and

[1:10:48] they're like,

[1:10:48] huh?

[1:10:48] And like, that's

[1:10:49] not, that person

[1:10:49] would have always

[1:10:50] lost that finger.

[1:10:51] There's a part

Dan McCoy

[1:10:51] where they like

[1:10:51] carve into a

[1:10:52] desk and they

[1:10:53] see it appearing.

[1:10:53] I remember.

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:54] Exactly.

[1:10:55] Like that, it's

[1:10:55] a fun movie, but

[1:10:56] that's not, that

[1:10:57] time travel would

[1:10:58] not work that way.

[1:10:59] Like it just

[1:10:59] doesn't, it

[1:11:00] doesn't make any

[1:11:00] sense.

[1:11:01] It's like waves,

[1:11:02] man.

[1:11:03] Well, it

[1:11:03] implies that

[1:11:03] there's this, that

Dan McCoy

[1:11:04] there's this eternal

Elliott Kalan

[1:11:05] present that the

[1:11:06] characters are always

[1:11:06] in, you know?

[1:11:07] Yeah.

[1:11:08] But that movie is

[1:11:09] really more about

[1:11:09] dads and sons.

[1:11:10] So I'll buy it, you

[1:11:11] know, it's not about

[1:11:12] science.

[1:11:13] Yeah.

[1:11:15] Any more thoughts

[1:11:15] before we move on?

[1:11:16] I would say also, um,

[1:11:18] in terms of, uh, time

[1:11:19] travel is most

[1:11:21] likely impossible.

[1:11:22] So there's part of

[1:11:23] me that kind of

[1:11:23] believes more.

[1:11:24] Except for the way

[1:11:25] we currently travel

[1:11:26] through time.

[1:11:27] Exactly.

Stuart Wellington

[1:11:27] One forward through

[1:11:28] time.

[1:11:28] Or the fact that,

Dan McCoy

[1:11:29] like, I guess time

[1:11:30] is an illusion, they

[1:11:32] tell us.

[1:11:33] And it's all

[1:11:33] happening.

[1:11:33] And in the way we

Stuart Wellington

[1:11:33] travel backwards in

[1:11:35] time using our

[1:11:35] memories and through

[1:11:37] the art of

[1:11:37] storytelling.

Elliott Kalan

[1:11:38] Well, that's the

[1:11:38] thing is when, when

[1:11:39] I see a time travel

[1:11:40] movie that uses kind

[1:11:41] of a more mystical

[1:11:42] form of time travel,

[1:11:43] I'm like, okay,

[1:11:44] maybe you could do it

[1:11:45] that way because it's

[1:11:45] not really

[1:11:46] scientifically possible

[1:11:47] to physically go

[1:11:49] back to the past or

[1:11:49] physically to go into

[1:11:50] a future which does

[1:11:51] not exist yet.

[1:11:52] You know?

[1:11:53] And even if those

[1:11:54] things do exist because

[1:11:55] time is a continuum

[1:11:56] and we're just

[1:11:56] traveling along it,

[1:11:58] our perception of

[1:11:59] reality does not

[1:12:00] allow us to do

[1:12:00] those things.

[1:12:01] So, sorry, time

[1:12:02] travel.

[1:12:03] You burned.

Stuart Wellington

[1:12:03] What about a time

[1:12:04] cop?

[1:12:04] Time cop has that

[1:12:05] really great part

[1:12:06] where he does the

[1:12:06] splits.

Elliott Kalan

[1:12:07] Uh-huh.

[1:12:08] Yeah, but that's

[1:12:09] real to find.

[1:12:10] But that's because

[1:12:11] he put the time

[1:12:12] into his work.

[1:12:13] Thank you.

[1:12:14] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:12:16] Nate, last name

[1:12:18] withheld,

[1:12:19] bleh, writes,

[1:12:21] that was not a

[1:12:21] bleh to you, Nate.

[1:12:22] It was just about

[1:12:23] my...

[1:12:23] No, no.

Elliott Kalan

[1:12:23] It wasn't that his

[1:12:23] last name was

[1:12:24] bleh?

[1:12:25] Yeah.

[1:12:25] Named by a vampire.

[1:12:27] It's pronounced

[1:12:27] Blegatzi, by the way.

[1:12:28] Okay.

[1:12:30] Blegatzi.

Stuart Wellington

[1:12:31] Nate writes,

Dan McCoy

[1:12:32] I realized in the

[1:12:33] past few years that

[1:12:35] I'm a big fan of

[1:12:35] what I think of as

[1:12:36] damp stories.

[1:12:39] I struggle to define

[1:12:40] damp, but I know

[1:12:43] it when I see it.

[1:12:44] It's a vibe.

[1:12:46] Certainly the world

[1:12:46] should be physically

[1:12:47] damp.

[1:12:48] Things should be

[1:12:49] mildewy.

[1:12:49] Paint should be

[1:12:50] peeling.

[1:12:51] But also the story

[1:12:52] should be about

[1:12:52] folks with waterlogged

[1:12:54] souls and societies

[1:12:55] that are falling apart

[1:12:56] like wet bread.

[1:12:57] Some of my favorite

[1:12:58] damp fiction books

[1:12:59] are The Sunken Land

[1:13:01] Begins to Rise Again

[1:13:02] by M. John Harrison,

[1:13:04] Jeff Vandermeer's

[1:13:06] Southern Reach books,

[1:13:07] and recently,

[1:13:08] Julia Armfield's

[1:13:10] books,

[1:13:10] Our Wives Under the Sea

[1:13:11] and Private's Rights.

[1:13:13] Film-wise, though,

[1:13:14] I need some

[1:13:15] recommendations.

[1:13:17] Tarkovsky's

[1:13:17] Stalker is probably

[1:13:18] the ultimate

[1:13:19] damp film.

[1:13:20] Annihilation is

[1:13:21] pretty damn damp.

[1:13:22] Blade Runner

[1:13:23] is quite damp.

[1:13:24] Moist, yeah.

[1:13:25] I'm currently

[1:13:26] designing a damp

[1:13:27] video game,

[1:13:27] so if the peaches

[1:13:28] have any damp

[1:13:29] films to recommend,

[1:13:30] I'd be grateful

[1:13:31] for the inspiration.

[1:13:33] Damp grateful

[1:13:33] ones.

[1:13:34] Yeah, I mean,

[1:13:35] obviously,

Stuart Wellington

[1:13:36] the wettest

[1:13:36] horror movies

[1:13:37] of all time.

[1:13:38] You're gonna say

[1:13:39] Jaws.

[1:13:40] I'm gonna say,

[1:13:40] no, no, no.

[1:13:41] Hellraiser 1 and 2,

[1:13:42] those are the

[1:13:42] wettest horror movies.

[1:13:44] Everything's damp

[1:13:44] because it's covered

[1:13:45] in blood and sweat.

[1:13:47] Yeah, those are great.

[1:13:49] Dagon's pretty damp.

[1:13:50] Dagon is super damp.

[1:13:51] That would be,

[1:13:52] that's perfect for that shit.

[1:13:53] I mean,

[1:13:53] it's a creature

Elliott Kalan

[1:13:53] from the sea.

[1:13:54] It makes sense.

[1:13:54] Yeah.

[1:13:55] Uh-huh.

[1:13:56] I mean,

[1:13:57] you mentioned Blade Runner.

[1:13:58] Alien is a movie

[1:13:59] that I like

[1:14:00] for the dampness

[1:14:00] that shouldn't exist.

[1:14:01] The fact that they have

[1:14:02] that room

[1:14:02] where there's just chains

[1:14:03] and dripping water

[1:14:04] on a spaceship,

[1:14:04] that shouldn't be there.

[1:14:06] But there is something

[1:14:06] very damp and gooey

[1:14:07] about that movie.

[1:14:08] If you've never seen

[1:14:09] The Element of Crime,

[1:14:12] Lars von Trier's

[1:14:13] early movie,

[1:14:13] it's incredibly damp

[1:14:15] and kind of rotting away.

[1:14:17] And we mentioned,

[1:14:18] Dan,

[1:14:18] you mentioned 12 Monkeys.

[1:14:19] Like,

[1:14:19] 12 Monkeys is not

[1:14:20] a wet movie,

[1:14:21] but I remember seeing

[1:14:21] that theaters

[1:14:22] and being like,

[1:14:22] this is a really grimy,

[1:14:24] rotting world.

[1:14:25] It's an unpleasant world

[1:14:26] to be in.

Dan McCoy

[1:14:27] No,

[1:14:27] that's true.

[1:14:28] I think that that qualifies.

Stuart Wellington

[1:14:30] If you're looking

[1:14:30] for like a goofy bee movie,

[1:14:33] the Rucker Hauer

[1:14:34] action movie

[1:14:35] Split Second

[1:14:36] takes place in a world

[1:14:37] that's basically like

[1:14:38] complete,

[1:14:39] like partially flooded.

Dan McCoy

[1:14:41] Maybe I'm taking it

[1:14:42] too literally

[1:14:42] because it has so much

[1:14:44] to do with water

[1:14:44] and eels,

[1:14:45] but I just watched

[1:14:46] A Cure for Wellness

[1:14:47] recently.

[1:14:47] So it's got

[1:14:49] the literal dampness,

[1:14:50] but also kind of the,

[1:14:51] I don't know,

[1:14:53] vaguely Lovecraftian

[1:14:54] dampness you're looking

[1:14:55] for,

[1:14:55] I think.

Elliott Kalan

[1:14:57] You know what,

[1:14:57] yeah,

[1:14:58] I wonder if like,

[1:14:59] if dampness is different

[1:15:00] than like,

[1:15:01] yeah,

[1:15:01] it's different than like

[1:15:02] stickiness or gooeyness

[1:15:03] or like,

[1:15:04] you know,

[1:15:05] that kind of wetness.

[1:15:06] Well,

[1:15:07] we don't need to worry

[1:15:07] about it.

[1:15:10] We don't.

[1:15:11] We can just move on.

[1:15:13] Because there's a difference

[1:15:13] between dampness

[1:15:14] and like when there's

[1:15:15] like a monster

[1:15:16] in a movie

[1:15:16] and it's just slathered

[1:15:17] and kind of like goo,

[1:15:18] like wet that way,

[1:15:19] right?

[1:15:20] Yeah.

[1:15:20] Okay.

[1:15:20] Yeah.

[1:15:22] Let's move on

[1:15:23] to recommendations.

[1:15:24] Oh,

[1:15:24] Damned Yankees.

[1:15:25] Also Damned Yankees,

[1:15:26] the musical.

[1:15:26] That's about,

[1:15:27] that's a better game.

[1:15:28] The game should have

[1:15:28] been rained out,

[1:15:29] but they play it anyway.

[1:15:30] Yeah.

[1:15:30] I was worried you were

Stuart Wellington

[1:15:31] talking about the super group

[1:15:32] and I'm like,

[1:15:33] I don't like Ted Nugent though.

[1:15:35] Nobody does.

Elliott Kalan

[1:15:37] I'm just not sure

[1:15:38] a lot of people do,

[1:15:39] but I don't.

Dan McCoy

[1:15:39] Pardon me while I burp.

[1:15:40] And now moving on.

[1:15:41] Ted Nugent though

Elliott Kalan

[1:15:42] is a great,

[1:15:42] is a great candy bar.

Dan McCoy

[1:15:46] Let's do recommendations,

[1:15:48] movies that,

[1:15:49] for adults

[1:15:50] might be a better,

[1:15:51] uh,

[1:15:52] use of one's time.

[1:15:54] I recently,

[1:15:55] speaking of adults

[1:15:56] and kids,

[1:15:57] I recently rewatched,

[1:15:58] um,

[1:15:58] Time Bandits

[1:15:59] and I was,

[1:16:01] uh,

[1:16:01] sort of amazed

[1:16:02] looking back

[1:16:03] at how much I loved

[1:16:04] that as a kid

[1:16:05] because I'm like

[1:16:05] watching it

[1:16:06] as an adult,

[1:16:07] adult.

[1:16:07] I'm like,

[1:16:08] God damn,

[1:16:09] this movie's weird.

[1:16:10] I mean,

[1:16:10] not just in like the,

[1:16:11] like a bunch of weird

[1:16:12] stuff happens in it,

[1:16:13] but the fact,

[1:16:14] like Audrey was in the room

[1:16:16] for the ending

[1:16:16] and I explained to her

[1:16:19] what happened

[1:16:20] at the end of that film

[1:16:21] and she's like,

[1:16:21] what?

[1:16:22] Like,

[1:16:24] spoiler for a movie

[1:16:25] from 1981,

[1:16:25] but the film,

[1:16:28] you know,

[1:16:28] a movie that's

[1:16:29] at least sort of

[1:16:30] pitched for children.

[1:16:31] I think it was not

[1:16:32] necessarily intended

[1:16:33] as that

[1:16:34] at the time,

[1:16:35] but it's certainly

[1:16:36] like meant to be a movie

[1:16:37] for everyone

[1:16:39] to some degree.

[1:16:40] People were young at heart.

[1:16:41] Yeah.

[1:16:41] I watched that movie,

[1:16:43] I watched that movie recently.

[1:16:44] Wait, hold on,

[1:16:44] let me finish the idea.

[1:16:46] Okay.

[1:16:46] It ends with the parents

[1:16:48] of the main character

[1:16:49] touching a piece

[1:16:50] of ultimate evil,

[1:16:51] exploding,

[1:16:52] you know,

[1:16:54] the father figure

[1:16:55] from another time,

[1:16:57] driving off

[1:16:57] and leaving the child alone,

[1:16:59] at which point

[1:16:59] a map of the universe

[1:17:01] gets folded up

[1:17:03] and George Harrison plays.

[1:17:04] And that's the end.

[1:17:06] Yeah,

[1:17:06] I was going to say,

Elliott Kalan

[1:17:06] I recently watched that

[1:17:07] with my younger son

[1:17:08] for the first time

[1:17:09] and he liked it,

[1:17:09] but I think was weirded out by it.

[1:17:11] And the ending,

[1:17:11] certainly he was like,

[1:17:12] I didn't like the ending.

[1:17:13] He was like,

[1:17:13] I didn't think

[1:17:14] that the parents

[1:17:14] weren't that bad,

[1:17:15] that they had to be destroyed

[1:17:16] at the end,

Dan McCoy

[1:17:17] you know.

[1:17:17] No,

[1:17:18] it was all about it

[1:17:19] as a kid.

[1:17:20] But,

[1:17:20] yeah,

[1:17:21] watching it,

[1:17:22] like there's just like

[1:17:22] jokes in there

[1:17:23] that I really loved

[1:17:25] this time around

[1:17:26] watching Ian Holm

[1:17:27] as Napoleon,

[1:17:28] like he's watching

[1:17:30] Punch and Judy

[1:17:30] and he's angry

[1:17:31] at anything

[1:17:32] that's not Punch and Judy.

[1:17:33] He's just like,

[1:17:33] I just want to watch

[1:17:34] little things

[1:17:35] hitting each other

[1:17:36] because they make a whole,

[1:17:38] you know,

[1:17:39] like it's all these

[1:17:39] Napoleon short jokes,

[1:17:40] of course,

[1:17:40] but he's like,

[1:17:41] I want to watch

[1:17:42] little things

[1:17:42] doing violence

[1:17:43] and backstage,

[1:17:45] the stage manager

[1:17:47] is about to shoot himself

[1:17:50] because he has nothing else

[1:17:51] and then all of the

[1:17:53] little people,

[1:17:54] like,

[1:17:55] you know,

[1:17:55] God's helpers,

[1:17:56] bandits run up

[1:17:58] and he's like,

[1:17:59] oh,

[1:18:00] delivered from my,

[1:18:02] it's just such a weird joke,

[1:18:04] but I thought it was so funny.

[1:18:05] Anyway.

Stuart Wellington

[1:18:05] Also,

[1:18:06] I just love the idea

[1:18:07] of a time travel story

[1:18:08] where they just have

[1:18:10] a giant map

[1:18:10] of the universe

[1:18:11] that somehow

[1:18:12] they can figure out

[1:18:13] and find where,

[1:18:15] like how to travel

[1:18:15] around through time.

[1:18:16] I think that's great.

[1:18:17] Holes in time.

[1:18:18] I'm going to recommend

[1:18:19] a movie that is,

[1:18:21] this one's a tough one.

[1:18:23] This is a tough one

[1:18:24] for you to watch,

[1:18:25] but this is tough

[1:18:27] as in it's hard to find.

[1:18:29] I recently went to a screening

[1:18:31] of the Hank's Saloon documentary.

[1:18:34] This was directed

[1:18:36] by a friend of the podcast,

[1:18:39] Ashley Atkinson's husband,

[1:18:41] Leon Chase,

[1:18:42] and this is him filming

[1:18:44] the last few months

[1:18:45] of a somewhat legendary

[1:18:47] Brooklyn dive bar,

[1:18:49] Hank's Saloon,

[1:18:50] and he captures

[1:18:52] kind of the history

[1:18:54] of Brooklyn as a borough

[1:18:56] and the history

[1:18:57] of that property

[1:18:59] and the various bars

[1:19:00] that inhabited that property

[1:19:01] and then takes a look

[1:19:03] at kind of the lifespan

[1:19:04] of this neighborhood bar.

[1:19:06] And there's a lot

[1:19:06] of interviews with,

[1:19:08] you know,

[1:19:08] former bartenders

[1:19:10] with some of the bar flies.

[1:19:12] And I think it does

[1:19:14] a very good job

[1:19:15] of capturing

[1:19:15] kind of what makes

[1:19:17] a neighborhood bar special

[1:19:18] and the way that

[1:19:19] like a group

[1:19:20] of local weirdos

[1:19:22] can create

[1:19:22] this kind of interesting

[1:19:24] little community

[1:19:24] despite being surrounded

[1:19:26] by a neighborhood

[1:19:27] that is rapidly gentrifying

[1:19:28] and like all the characters

[1:19:30] being kind of ironed

[1:19:31] out of the neighborhood

[1:19:32] and the way that

[1:19:35] like incessant progress

[1:19:36] kind of does that.

[1:19:37] And I think that there's

[1:19:38] a lot of neighborhood bars

[1:19:40] that kind of feel like Hank's,

[1:19:41] but Hank's also felt

[1:19:42] like a little bit

[1:19:43] extra special.

[1:19:45] And so I think

[1:19:46] it's a really fun documentary.

[1:19:47] It was also,

[1:19:48] I'm kind of a little too close

[1:19:50] to the material.

[1:19:51] Like a lot of those bar flies,

[1:19:53] I'm like,

[1:19:53] oh man,

[1:19:53] I definitely got trapped

[1:19:55] talking to that guy before.

[1:19:58] But this is a movie

[1:20:00] that is currently,

[1:20:01] they did a couple screenings

[1:20:02] at the Nighthawk

[1:20:03] and now I think

[1:20:04] they're doing like

[1:20:04] a little bit of a road show

[1:20:06] around some bars

[1:20:08] in Brooklyn

[1:20:08] and hopefully

[1:20:09] it will make

[1:20:11] some festival appearances.

[1:20:13] But that's

[1:20:13] the Hank's Saloon documentary.

Dan McCoy

[1:20:15] And I was reminded

[1:20:16] on your,

[1:20:16] one of your model

[1:20:17] painting streams

[1:20:18] that our producer,

[1:20:20] Alex Smith,

[1:20:20] played Hank's Saloon

[1:20:21] at one point.

[1:20:22] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:20:23] I saw a show there.

Elliott Kalan

[1:20:25] You were seeing Friends

[1:20:25] play there.

[1:20:26] Yeah.

[1:20:28] My recommendation

[1:20:29] is a movie

[1:20:30] from my second favorite

[1:20:31] filmmaking duo.

[1:20:32] You guys know

[1:20:33] that if there's

[1:20:33] a filmmaking duo

[1:20:34] I love above all others,

[1:20:35] it's the Coen brothers.

[1:20:36] But if there's

[1:20:37] a second favorite

[1:20:38] that I love above

[1:20:39] most others,

[1:20:40] except the Coen brothers,

[1:20:41] it is Powell and Pressburger,

[1:20:42] The Archers.

[1:20:44] And this is a movie

[1:20:45] that I had not seen

[1:20:46] until recently,

[1:20:47] which is called

[1:20:48] The Small Back Room.

[1:20:49] And it's a black and white movie.

[1:20:50] It's not,

[1:20:51] they're a beautiful color.

[1:20:51] I thought they're often known for.

[1:20:53] But it does star

[1:20:54] David Farrar and Kathleen Byron,

[1:20:55] who are favorites of theirs.

[1:20:56] They're also both

[1:20:57] in Black Narcissus,

[1:20:58] which is a movie I love.

[1:21:00] And it's a movie

[1:21:01] from 1949

[1:21:02] that's set during

[1:21:03] World War II.

[1:21:05] And David Farrar plays a,

[1:21:07] he is a scientist

[1:21:08] who has a,

[1:21:09] has only one foot

[1:21:11] and the other foot

[1:21:11] is a tin prosthetic.

[1:21:13] And as a result of that,

[1:21:15] he is struggling

[1:21:16] with feelings of inadequacy,

[1:21:18] with alcoholism,

[1:21:19] and he is being

[1:21:20] self-destructive

[1:21:20] and also destructive

[1:21:21] towards his love interest,

[1:21:23] Kathleen Byron,

[1:21:23] who's trying to stand by him.

[1:21:25] And at the same time,

[1:21:26] he's also trying

[1:21:27] to solve the problem

[1:21:28] of these kind of devices

[1:21:30] that are being dropped

[1:21:31] on England

[1:21:32] by the Nazis

[1:21:32] that when you touch them,

[1:21:34] they explode.

[1:21:35] Or you pick them up,

[1:21:35] they explode.

[1:21:36] How do you find a way

[1:21:37] to defuse these

[1:21:37] so they're no longer a danger?

[1:21:39] And it's super tense.

[1:21:41] The personal stuff

[1:21:42] is really good in it.

[1:21:43] The military stuff

[1:21:43] is really tense

[1:21:44] and really good in it.

[1:21:45] It's a small-scale movie,

[1:21:47] but it just feels

[1:21:48] very suspenseful

[1:21:49] and very kind of meaningful.

[1:21:51] There's also funny parts.

[1:21:52] And I will say

[1:21:53] the only,

[1:21:54] there's one part

[1:21:55] where it gets a little too,

[1:21:56] he has like a deep,

[1:21:58] like a,

[1:21:58] like needs,

[1:22:00] desperately wants a drink

[1:22:01] type sequence

[1:22:02] that gets a little too literal

[1:22:05] in that there's,

[1:22:06] he's literally being squeezed

[1:22:07] out of a room

[1:22:08] by a giant bottle of whiskey.

[1:22:09] by a giant bottle of whiskey.

[1:22:11] And it's like,

[1:22:11] all right,

[1:22:11] well,

[1:22:11] this is getting a little silly,

[1:22:13] but it does sound cool.

[1:22:15] But it's cool to watch

[1:22:16] and it looks,

[1:22:16] and it's a power presser,

[1:22:18] presser,

[1:22:18] presser movie.

[1:22:19] So it looks great.

[1:22:19] It looks beautiful.

[1:22:21] And so that's the small back room.

[1:22:22] I highly recommend it.

Dan McCoy

[1:22:24] Great.

[1:22:24] Well,

[1:22:24] let's take pity on Elliot's wife

[1:22:26] and wrap this up

[1:22:27] as quickly as possible now.

[1:22:29] She thanks you

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:30] and I thank you

[1:22:31] for her thanking you.

[1:22:32] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:22:32] And I thank Maximum Fun.

[1:22:34] Go to MaximumFun.org.

[1:22:35] Check out all the other

[1:22:36] great shows on the network.

[1:22:37] Hey,

[1:22:38] Max Fun Drive's coming up soon

[1:22:39] and we're going to do

[1:22:41] three full episodes in a row

[1:22:43] for The Drive.

[1:22:44] We're doing a thing.

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:45] No minis during Drive,

[1:22:46] all fulls.

[1:22:47] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[1:22:47] And we're doing a thing

[1:22:48] where we torture one another

[1:22:49] with movie picks

[1:22:51] for the group.

[1:22:54] So Stuart picked

[1:22:55] Exit to Eden,

[1:22:57] I believe.

[1:22:58] Enjoy it,

[1:22:59] suckers.

[1:22:59] I picked

Stuart Wellington

[1:22:59] Fear.com.

[1:23:01] Oh, no.

Dan McCoy

[1:23:02] And Elliot got real mean

[1:23:03] and picked

[1:23:04] 40 Days and 40 Nights.

[1:23:06] that's a crime.

Elliott Kalan

[1:23:07] I know.

[1:23:08] I was like,

[1:23:09] what's the movie

[1:23:09] that'll hurt Stuart the most?

[1:23:11] But I know he hates the most.

Stuart Wellington

[1:23:12] Like,

[1:23:13] well,

[1:23:13] there could be that

[1:23:13] home movie

[1:23:15] of Stuart's parents

[1:23:16] not giving him

[1:23:17] a birthday gift.

[1:23:17] Oh, no.

Dan McCoy

[1:23:19] No, no, no, no.

Stuart Wellington

[1:23:20] Yeah, I know.

[1:23:21] It's crazy.

[1:23:21] Birthdays truly

[1:23:22] were the worst days.

Dan McCoy

[1:23:23] Yeah.

[1:23:23] So that'll be coming up

[1:23:25] soon in late April.

[1:23:27] But thank you

[1:23:29] to the network.

[1:23:30] Thank you to Alex Smith,

[1:23:32] our producer,

[1:23:34] Hank Saloon performer.

[1:23:37] You can find him online

[1:23:38] as Howell Dottie

[1:23:40] doing streams

[1:23:41] and music

[1:23:42] and his own podcast.

[1:23:44] But for our podcast,

[1:23:46] The Flophouse,

[1:23:46] I've been Dan McGoy.

[1:23:48] I'm Stuart Wellington.

Stuart Wellington

[1:23:49] I'm Elliot Kalin.

[1:23:51] Okay, let's get out of here

[1:23:52] so that Elliot can go

[1:23:53] have fun with his family.

[1:24:02] What's your favorite big cat?

[1:24:03] Is it the tiger?

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:05] The puma?

[1:24:07] I mean,

[1:24:07] Tony the tiger,

[1:24:08] probably, right?

[1:24:08] Because he's a friendly gay icon.

[1:24:11] That's true.

Stuart Wellington

[1:24:13] I think he could pull off

[1:24:15] a neckerchief, Dan.

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:16] Yeah, I think so.

[1:24:16] I mean,

[1:24:17] the thing about Tony the tiger

[1:24:17] is he was out at a time

[1:24:19] when it was not easy

[1:24:20] for a cartoon tiger

[1:24:21] who is the pitchman

[1:24:22] for a serial to be out.

[1:24:25] I mean,

[1:24:25] Snagglepuss.

[1:24:27] Snagglepuss?

[1:24:27] No, no.

[1:24:27] Snagglepuss,

[1:24:28] it was like Liberace.

[1:24:29] He was like,

[1:24:30] I can never come out publicly

[1:24:31] because of my female fans.

[1:24:33] They need to know

[1:24:34] they have a chance with me.

[1:24:35] Maximum Fun.

[1:24:39] A worker-owned network

Dan McCoy

[1:24:40] of artist-owned shows

[1:24:42] supported

[1:24:43] directly

[1:24:44] by you.

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