Gabby's Dollhouse: The Movie

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss Gabby's Dollhouse, the movie.

[0:05] Welcome to Flophouse Jr., where kids rule and parents drool

[0:09] and homework is strictly off the menu.

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[0:15] and economic collapse will not allow you to have one?

[0:19] Sobering. Sobering intro.

[0:21] It started fun, though.

[0:23] Hey, everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse.

[0:47] I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:48] And I'm Stuart Wellington.

[0:50] I'm Elliot Kalin, writer of the new comic book

[0:52] Barbarian Behind Bars from Mad Cave Studios.

[0:54] I bought the last one they had at Forbidden Planet, Elliot.

[0:57] Congratulations.

[0:58] Thank you.

[0:59] A sellout.

[1:00] A sellout.

[1:01] How many copies did they buy to begin with at Forbidden Planet?

[1:03] Let's not get into those numbers.

[1:04] I always get to look at their books.

[1:06] The important thing is it sold out.

[1:08] Already pre-ordered the eventual trade,

[1:11] since, as you know, I'm not an issues man.

[1:14] You're not a sloppy, sloppy guy?

[1:16] You do have a lot of issues, though.

[1:17] I do have so many issues.

[1:21] That's why I'm not trying to get any new ones, you know?

[1:23] Yeah.

[1:24] But from what I've heard, Dan is not a floppy guy,

[1:26] if you know what I mean.

[1:28] He is one of the hosts of the Flophouse.

[1:30] Oh, you're right.

[1:31] Maybe he is a floppy guy.

[1:32] And I don't even know what I meant.

[1:35] Well, since none of us know what any of us mean,

[1:38] maybe we should move on to the meat of this show.

[1:41] This is a podcast where we watch a movie

[1:43] that was either a critical or a commercial flop,

[1:46] and we talk about it.

[1:47] Or that just looks like it would be silly to talk about.

[1:50] Yeah, yeah.

[1:51] You might think,

[1:52] why are three grown men talking about

[1:54] Gabby's Dollhouse, the movie?

[1:56] I felt that way when I was sitting at home

[1:58] watching it by myself.

[2:00] Sitting at home watching it by myself

[2:02] with the sing-along mode enabled.

[2:06] Rarely have I watched something

[2:08] where it has been so clear from almost moment one,

[2:10] this is not for me.

[2:12] It's not for us.

[2:13] It's not meant for me, yeah.

[2:14] Anything we have to say about it is,

[2:16] it's not really a consumer advocacy,

[2:19] or we're not giving any information to people.

[2:22] It's not valid, yeah.

[2:23] It's just for larfs.

[2:25] And that was the thing about,

[2:26] I heard that this movie was nutty,

[2:28] and that was why I was kind of interested

[2:30] in checking it out.

[2:31] And it's not just a point on the nuttiness factor.

[2:33] It was just processed in a facility that handles nuts.

[2:36] That's the best thing, yeah.

[2:37] It's actually not that nutty.

[2:39] And before we get into it,

[2:41] I think Stuart has the unenviable role

[2:44] of explaining this movie.

[2:45] There are a few times,

[2:46] actually, having said that,

[2:47] when I watched it, I was like,

[2:48] this is not for me.

[2:49] There are a few times I've watched a Flophouse movie

[2:50] that I've been more glad I am not on the story.

[2:53] Because this movie was like,

[2:55] as if I was behind a pane of glass

[2:57] and someone was just throwing

[2:58] brightly colored balls at it.

[3:00] None of the balls reached me.

[3:01] They just bounced off the glass.

[3:02] That was this movie.

[3:03] I was like, I can't even keep track of this.

[3:05] Never before have I felt more like Pecos Bill

[3:08] trying to lasso a twister and riding around

[3:11] as the movie kept shaking my attempts off.

[3:14] Yeah, but before we start,

[3:16] I just wanted to say,

[3:17] from what I know,

[3:18] which is very little,

[3:19] because I am a childless man,

[3:21] but what I've been able to glean

[3:22] is this is, of course, the...

[3:23] And also, America's educational system has failed you.

[3:26] That's why you know very little.

[3:27] They didn't teach me anything about Gabby's Dollhouse.

[3:30] No.

[3:31] From what I've been able to glean...

[3:32] And you majored in dollhouse studies.

[3:34] I know.

[3:36] This is the movie version

[3:39] of a long-running children's television show

[3:42] that is in the sort of Blue's Clues area

[3:44] of interactive, you know,

[3:46] like the person in charge tells the kid at home,

[3:50] like, oh, you know, now we sing this thing.

[3:53] Or can you see where that is?

[3:55] Or that sort of thing.

[3:56] Yeah, yeah.

[3:57] Yeah, yeah, for a second,

[3:58] I thought I was watching a fucking Deadpool.

[4:00] Right, guys?

[4:01] It was twisted in that...

[4:03] It was twisted, yeah.

[4:04] In that Deadpool way.

[4:05] So, according to Wikipedia,

[4:07] the Gabby's Dollhouse show

[4:08] that has had 13 seasons

[4:10] with 86 episodes.

[4:12] But it's like, how do you divide 86 by 13

[4:15] to get season quarters?

[4:17] It's impossible.

[4:18] I don't understand it.

[4:19] I don't get it.

[4:20] And don't write in to tell me how.

[4:21] I want to live with the mystery.

[4:22] So, guys...

[4:23] Was there like a truncated writer's strike season

[4:25] like Breaking Bad?

[4:26] I guarantee you,

[4:27] this show is not a writer's guild show.

[4:29] As a children's animated show on Netflix,

[4:32] I guarantee you

[4:33] that they have hung as much garlic as they need

[4:35] to keep the writer's guild vampires

[4:37] away from the show.

[4:38] And I am a writer's guild vampire.

[4:39] Vampires are cool.

[4:40] I mean it as a positive thing.

[4:42] I mean, I'm sure this is a very...

[4:45] Like modern TV shows,

[4:47] season counts mean nothing anymore.

[4:50] They're all over the place.

[4:51] But you're right.

[4:52] That's true.

[4:53] Those two numbers do not go into one another.

[4:55] It's 6.615384 etc.

[4:58] So...

[4:59] Look at Calculator Dan over there

[5:00] doing that math.

[5:01] Oh, man.

[5:02] Yeah.

[5:03] Regular old Marty Supreme over there.

[5:04] Yeah, all of a sudden,

[5:05] his eyes start flickering

[5:06] like he's a Mentat or something.

[5:08] Yeah, I did it all in my head.

[5:11] Okay.

[5:12] You guys want to get into this adventure?

[5:14] Let's dig in.

[5:15] You guys ready to go to Cat Francisco?

[5:17] Let's go to Cat Francisco.

[5:19] This is one of the funny things about this movie

[5:21] is that there's a magical fantasy world

[5:23] of the cat dollhouse.

[5:24] But the real world is also pretty cat-centric.

[5:26] It's incredibly cat-centric.

[5:28] And at the end,

[5:29] not to skip directly to the end,

[5:31] but at the final shot...

[5:32] Let's do it.

[5:33] Short episode.

[5:34] Finish it up.

[5:35] We see a lonely graveyard.

[5:36] Cat is making a new dollhouse.

[5:38] This is R.I.P. cats.

[5:39] Yeah.

[5:40] For her coming little sister.

[5:42] And it's dog-themed.

[5:44] I'm like, wait,

[5:45] are dogs allowed in this world?

[5:46] Yeah.

[5:47] That's the thing.

[5:48] That's like the biggest flip.

[5:49] That's the Avengers initiative.

[5:50] Well, in their culture,

[5:51] when you give someone a dog-themed gift,

[5:53] that's a way of saying,

[5:54] you're going to die.

[5:55] It's like giving them

[5:56] a fish wrapped in newspaper

[5:57] or something like that.

[5:58] That's a death note.

[5:59] Okay.

[6:00] So the movie opens.

[6:01] It opens on Gigi.

[6:03] I guess newly Grandma Gigi,

[6:06] who is a crafter.

[6:08] And she is building a...

[6:09] She's...

[6:10] Oh, yeah.

[6:11] Go on.

[6:12] Sorry.

[6:13] She's building a dollhouse,

[6:14] a cat-themed dollhouse.

[6:16] This beautiful dollhouse

[6:17] filled with tiny little figurines

[6:20] as a gift to her granddaughter, Gabby.

[6:23] And who plays Gigi?

[6:26] Elliot,

[6:27] why don't you answer your own question

[6:28] instead of asking me something?

[6:29] It's Gloria Estefan, of course.

[6:30] Oh, no shit.

[6:31] I was briefly very excited

[6:32] to see Gloria Estefan in here.

[6:34] But then she doesn't really sing

[6:36] in the movie.

[6:37] So I was like,

[6:38] all right, well, that's disappointing.

[6:39] Oh, man.

[6:40] I did not realize that.

[6:41] Oh, wow.

[6:42] Okay.

[6:43] So...

[6:44] And in addition to gifting

[6:45] her granddaughter this dollhouse,

[6:47] she also gives her a pair

[6:48] of magical cat ears,

[6:50] like a magical cat ear headband,

[6:52] and a stuffed doll of a cat

[6:55] named Pandy.

[6:56] And these are magic.

[6:58] And we learned that this,

[6:59] that utilizing these two instruments,

[7:01] these two fetters,

[7:02] allows her to transform herself

[7:05] into a tiny little animated version

[7:07] of herself and into the dollhouse

[7:09] where all these magical cat dolls

[7:12] come to life.

[7:13] So Gigi is some sort of witch figure?

[7:16] A brouhaha,

[7:17] I believe, in their culture.

[7:18] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[7:19] And the Pandy is a familiar of a sort.

[7:21] Yes.

[7:22] Exactly.

[7:23] So before we get into the meat of the story...

[7:25] It is quite a brouhaha that gets caused

[7:27] by Chums Lake when he shows up.

[7:29] Brouhaha?

[7:30] Ha-ha.

[7:31] Yeah, as soon as we start

[7:32] playing around with magic.

[7:33] Now, before we get into it,

[7:34] let's meet the Gabby cats,

[7:36] why don't we?

[7:37] Because this is, you know,

[7:38] we have met some all-star lineups

[7:40] in our day,

[7:41] but I think this might take the cake.

[7:43] So, of course, we have Cakey.

[7:44] I think we need a real introduction here.

[7:47] Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.

[7:50] Ladies and gentlemen,

[7:51] your 2025,

[7:52] because that's when the movie came out,

[7:54] Gabby cats!

[7:56] Take it away, Stewart.

[7:57] Da-da-da-da-da-da-da, Gabby cats.

[7:59] First, we've got Pandy Paws.

[8:01] Pandy Paws is the stuffed doll

[8:04] that is also,

[8:05] by squeezing Pandy's paw,

[8:07] allows them to become animated

[8:10] and exist within the dollhouse world.

[8:12] Y'all ready for this?

[8:13] Pandy is kind of like her,

[8:14] is kind of her all-purpose sidekick.

[8:17] Then we have Cakey.

[8:18] Dan, what does Cakey look like?

[8:20] Cakey looks like a little cupcake,

[8:24] but if a cupcake had like 15% cat,

[8:28] 15% cat.

[8:29] There are a couple lines that Cakey has

[8:31] where for a moment I thought that

[8:32] friend of the show, Jenny Jaffe,

[8:33] was doing the voice,

[8:34] but it was not to be.

[8:36] Was it when Cakey accidentally burned

[8:38] her little human-like buttocks?

[8:41] And said Cakey got bakey or something like that?

[8:44] That's exactly what Cakey said.

[8:45] I was like,

[8:46] it's not really a joke.

[8:47] I don't really know what that is,

[8:49] but it's a guess.

[8:50] But I ain't mad at it.

[8:52] That's true.

[8:53] Let's hear some more cats!

[8:55] Okay, we got Mercat.

[8:57] Mercat is, of course,

[8:58] a half-cat, half-fish,

[9:00] mermaid-type creature.

[9:02] Then we got my favorite,

[9:04] probably your favorite as well,

[9:05] that's right, Catrat.

[9:07] Oh, yeah.

[9:08] Catrat is kind of like a cat and a rat,

[9:10] but mainly just like a dirty old cat.

[9:12] He reminded me a lot of the cat

[9:14] from the Cats movie,

[9:15] who introduces all the other cats,

[9:17] but he never actually says his name in the movie.

[9:19] What was his name?

[9:20] Mofongo or something like that?

[9:22] Uh...

[9:23] Oh, God.

[9:24] Uh...

[9:25] So, that's not...

[9:26] What am I doing,

[9:27] taking up all the different cats?

[9:28] Is it Humongous?

[9:29] It's not.

[9:30] Fombolina.

[9:31] Humongous, was that it?

[9:32] That's humblishing.

[9:33] Anyway, it's not important.

[9:34] Stuart, we've got more cats!

[9:37] Okay, so we got DJ Catnip.

[9:39] DJ Catnip, who's like a cat

[9:41] who also has these long, springy legs.

[9:44] We have Baby Box.

[9:46] Dan, what does Baby Box look like?

[9:48] A box.

[9:49] Like a baby cat with a happy meal for a head.

[9:53] We have Carlita.

[9:55] Of course, Carlita is a car and a cat.

[9:58] You may remember her from the Al Pacino movie, Carlita.

[10:00] Sway? Very different movie.

[10:02] Interesting role for a car cat.

[10:04] And she's also the cousin of the cat bus from Totoro.

[10:08] Monkstrap.

[10:10] Monkstrap, thank you.

[10:12] Which is what a monk uses to hold his testicles

[10:14] when he's doing athletics.

[10:16] Continues Stewart with the cats!

[10:18] Normally you would think he would just toss them over his shoulder.

[10:21] But nope, he has to use a strap.

[10:23] Like a continental soldier.

[10:25] Then we got Pillow Cat.

[10:27] Dan, do you remember Pillow Cat?

[10:29] I have to admit, the cats kind of merged into a cat chorus.

[10:33] Me neither, I'm not a big Pillow Cat fan.

[10:35] But that's right, there's always a top and a bottom.

[10:39] Compared to the talking pillow in Oogie Loves,

[10:42] Pillow Cat was a dud.

[10:44] And then we have, of course, Kitty Fairy.

[10:47] Which is a kitty that's also a fairy.

[10:50] And while that is all of our Gabby Cats,

[10:54] though not technically a Gabby Cat,

[10:56] I do have to give an extra shout out for a character

[10:58] who will show up later in the movie,

[11:00] and that's Cookie Bobby.

[11:02] Who is some kind of cookie creation that's also kind of a cat.

[11:05] Voiced, of course, by Maddie Matheson.

[11:07] Did you mention Kitty Fridge?

[11:09] The living refrigerator who's also a cat?

[11:11] I forgot to mention Fortune Feimster voiced Kitty Fridge.

[11:15] Okay, so that's our Gabby Cats.

[11:18] A real reversal of Fortune.

[11:20] I think we all have our favorites.

[11:22] There's a reversal of Feimster.

[11:25] So we flash forward.

[11:27] Gabby is now a tween.

[11:29] Is that correct?

[11:31] I'm estimating age here.

[11:33] She's like 18.

[11:35] She's like 17 or 18.

[11:36] Well, Dan, let's not get gross.

[11:38] I don't know.

[11:40] Did you start licking your chops?

[11:42] Somebody put up a big statement.

[11:44] Let's not go into that.

[11:45] This is clearly someone who's off to college age.

[11:48] Yes, I think so.

[11:50] Not the age that they're trying to show.

[11:52] She's an elder teen at this point.

[11:54] Okay, so elder teen Gabby goes on a road trip with Grandma Gigi to go stay at Gigi's house in Cat Francisco.

[12:04] They bring the dollhouse along.

[12:07] So did Gigi drive from Cat Francisco to Gabby's house across the country and then back again?

[12:13] Yes.

[12:14] She drove across the country to get her and then drove across the country to get back home?

[12:18] She's a retiree.

[12:19] She's got plenty of time.

[12:20] That's true, I guess.

[12:22] Gabby could easily get on a plane.

[12:23] And she wants all the cat-related sites along the way.

[12:26] So Gabby was living alone in the old Gigi house?

[12:32] Where was she living?

[12:33] No, Gabby was just in her house.

[12:34] She was just in her house.

[12:35] But now she's moving to Cat Francisco with her grandmother.

[12:38] She's just visiting Cat Francisco.

[12:39] Oh, just visiting.

[12:40] But she's taking her dollhouse with her.

[12:42] Yeah, she's taking the dollhouse with her because she loves her dollhouse so much.

[12:45] Yeah.

[12:46] It's kind of her thing, right?

[12:49] I mean, I guess if you have living cat dolls, you can't just leave those at home.

[12:54] Yeah, otherwise you'll have a Chumsley situation, which we'll talk about later.

[12:57] Exactly, you don't want that.

[12:58] Okay, so when they arrive to Cat Francisco, obviously we get a road trip montage where

[13:02] we see various sites that are reminiscent of sites in our universe.

[13:06] But in the cat universe, they're a little bit catified.

[13:09] Including one where one of the characters is just hugging Shrek, I guess because it's

[13:14] the same company.

[13:15] It's DreamWorks.

[13:16] It's DreamWorks.

[13:17] It's the same as in our universe.

[13:18] Yeah.

[13:19] Put a Shrek out there, somebody's hugging his ass.

[13:22] Look, either Dr. Phil is a green M&M is marrying him or someone's hugging him.

[13:26] That's what you do with a Shrek.

[13:28] Okay.

[13:29] Wait, I just want to say, I was reading in my New Yorker reading is like a year and a

[13:33] half behind, but I just read an article in one where it was about this college student

[13:37] who has dedicated years to trying to get justice for the donkey who inspired the donkey in

[13:43] Shrek.

[13:44] There's a real life donkey.

[13:45] She's like, this donkey has health problems.

[13:47] It deserves to get more money and attention from the studio.

[13:50] And I was like, of all the things going on in the world, what a strange cause to take

[13:54] on as your own.

[13:55] Yeah.

[13:56] Two things.

[13:57] Until you explain it, I'm like, what does justice for a donkey mean?

[13:59] And number two is because of the Zoom call, it sounded at first like instead of New Yorker,

[14:04] you said you were reading the Bjorker.

[14:06] Which is Bjork's magazine where she talks about things that interest her at the moment.

[14:10] Yeah.

[14:11] You know, it's like hair care tips where you like, you have to get, you leave food out

[14:15] for the fairies.

[14:16] Oh, damn.

[14:17] Dan's showing off his fucking snatch game.

[14:19] There's stuff about food for fairies.

[14:22] There's reminiscences of awkward moments with Matthew Barney.

[14:26] Like, there's lots of, yeah, Bjorker is a great magazine.

[14:28] Anyway, keep going on with the summary.

[14:30] Let's keep moving.

[14:31] Yeah.

[14:32] Okay.

[14:33] So after arriving in San Francisco, which is similar to San Francisco in our universe,

[14:39] it is very hilly, which is important because while Gabby is distracted by her grandmother,

[14:45] Catrat gets, he gets antsy and he decides to undo the straps holding the dollhouse to

[14:54] the van, letting it start sliding down these hills because the, of course, the dollhouse

[15:00] has wheels.

[15:01] Before we get too far into this chase sequence.

[15:08] Do they ever, I wasn't paying that much attention to this.

[15:10] Do they ever make a cat tower reference for San Francisco?

[15:14] No.

[15:15] A cat tower?

[15:16] No, I don't think they do.

[15:17] Anyway, that's it.

[15:18] Instead of Coit Tower?

[15:19] Yeah.

[15:20] I don't think so.

[15:21] It was really worth stopping to talk about it.

[15:22] Well, it's even less worth it.

[15:23] Let's go right in if you thought that was worth it.

[15:24] Yeah, right into Dan, shut up, courtesy of the Flophouse.

[15:27] One, two, three, fake street, any town in the USA.

[15:31] Oh, I'm going to get so many letters.

[15:33] Yeah.

[15:34] It's going to make me feel bad.

[15:35] I'm going to have to move all the fake streets.

[15:37] They're going to run you out of town, run you out of any town.

[15:40] Yeah, run you out on a cat rail.

[15:43] This is a real fear that I understand about those hills in San Francisco.

[15:46] I remember once when my older son was very little, pushing him in a stroller around a

[15:50] hill in San Francisco, and I realized, I was like, if I accidentally let go of him at this

[15:54] moment, he is gone.

[15:56] I will never see it.

[15:57] Like, the stroller will roll down this hill and I will never catch up with it.

[16:00] And it was one of the scariest moments in my life.

[16:02] So I really felt this moment.

[16:04] This is a frightening fear.

[16:05] It's a real-life fear.

[16:06] You should have fucking tied that shit to your wrists.

[16:09] I didn't need to.

[16:11] Don't you have fuzzy, sexy handcuffs lying around?

[16:14] Why don't you just use those?

[16:15] Yeah, you know what?

[16:16] My fuzzy handcuffs, I did pack them because when in San Francisco, I always bring my fuzzy

[16:20] handcuffs.

[16:21] But I think the problem was we hadn't had a chance to use them on the trip, so I forgot

[16:24] I had them with me.

[16:25] Yeah.

[16:26] And so I didn't attach the stroller to my wrist using my fuzzy, sexy handcuffs.

[16:30] Even as someone who has no real-life fear to attach this to, like, this is going to

[16:38] show how incredibly soft-hearted I've become and how I need to harden up as a human being

[16:43] while watching Gabby's Dollhouse, a film where I can reasonably assume that nothing bad is

[16:48] really going to happen.

[16:50] I was like, this is way too stressful for me, for this movie to start off with this

[16:55] girl's, like, most prized possession filled with living cat dolls to, like, zoom down

[17:01] these hills and be separated from her immediately.

[17:04] So, yeah, Gabby gives chase, but obviously she's outpaced by the much faster dollhouse.

[17:09] So it zooms around corners.

[17:11] It almost gets in accidents.

[17:13] It handles very well, considering it is, again, a six-foot-tall dollhouse on wheels.

[17:18] And being steered by basically the doll figurines inside running from one side to the other

[17:23] to add weight.

[17:25] Their weight can't be enough.

[17:26] Eventually, it comes to rest.

[17:28] Yeah, Dan, let's talk about the physics of Gabby's Dollhouse, the movie.

[17:31] When Gabby tweaks her ears and becomes a tiny Gabby, where does the extra mass go?

[17:36] Where does that mass go?

[17:38] And when she turns back to human, where does the new mass come from?

[17:41] Mass can neither be destroyed nor recreated.

[17:44] When she's smaller, she is heavy as fuck.

[17:48] Oh, wow.

[17:50] Then I worry that if she shrinks too much, she'll become an intense super-gravity black hole

[17:54] and destroy all of Cat, Francisco.

[17:56] Well, luckily, Gigi has not given her that ability.

[17:59] Oh, thank goodness.

[18:00] Okay, so the dollhouse comes to rest outside of a vintage store where it is espied

[18:09] by a passing kitty litter magnate, Vera, played, of course, by Kristen Wiig,

[18:16] who is driving around in her convertible—

[18:19] Wiig?

[18:20] Wiig?

[18:21] I just say Wiig.

[18:22] I say Wiig, but you're pronouncing it the same way you would if she was a Nintendo Wii,

[18:24] so maybe you're right.

[18:26] And she's driving by in her convertible with—I think she's with her cat, Marlena,

[18:32] who is not hairless but looks like a hairless cat.

[18:36] Yeah, she's like a Sphinx-type cat, right?

[18:39] Kind of, yeah, and is eternally angry, possibly because of the amounts of wigs,

[18:44] outfits, and turbans Marlena has to wear.

[18:47] Now, this is a good segue for something I wanted to talk about,

[18:50] which is the way that the trivia section of the Gabby's Dollhouse entry on IMDb,

[18:57] there are a number of—some would say interesting,

[19:00] and I would say just interesting that they exist, a piece of trivia.

[19:03] I mean, there's literally a place in there to say if you find it interesting or not.

[19:07] Yeah, exactly.

[19:08] But I'm glad that you're bringing it out of the comments section into the podcast.

[19:12] So this says, Julie Kavner was originally considered to be the role of Vera but declined,

[19:16] instead giving the part to Kristen Wiig.

[19:18] And I have to assume they changed the part quite a bit because I can't imagine Julie Kavner

[19:21] doing some of the things Kristen Wiig does in this, like yoga and things like that.

[19:25] Were we about to have back-to-back Julie Kavner movies?

[19:28] We almost had—this almost became Kavner Arch.

[19:31] The Kavner-themed month.

[19:32] The Kavnerberry, yeah, the Kavner month.

[19:34] But it said, the next one, Ilana Glazer and Jeff Garland were originally offered

[19:37] to portray Gabby's mother and father in film but declined.

[19:40] Instead, Gabby's parents have been written out of the film.

[19:42] And there are a number of pieces of trivia on this that are,

[19:45] this person was almost in the movie, which means they were offered a part and said no,

[19:49] which does not mean they were almost in the movie.

[19:51] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[19:52] But then you get a lot of—you get a lot of trivia, like about a dozen pieces of trivia

[19:57] that are like this.

[20:00] Let's see, this is the second Netflix film adaptation

[20:02] from DreamWorks and Spirit Untamed.

[20:04] It is, however, the first one to be connected

[20:05] to the original series, rather than be a remake

[20:07] of that series, or this one.

[20:08] DreamWorks Animation's first G-rated film

[20:10] to not release on VHS, not be distributed

[20:13] by DreamWorks Pictures, and not have

[20:14] a PG-rated follow-up film.

[20:16] There are so many, apparently,

[20:18] it's like, so many, so many trivia pieces here

[20:21] about like, firsts that this movie have

[20:23] that don't make it, that are like the most baseball stat

[20:26] of haircutting.

[20:27] I think that's a sign that AI is coming

[20:31] for the job of weirdos who posted these

[20:33] trivia sections of IMDb.

[20:34] You know what, I didn't even think about that.

[20:35] It makes so much more sense if these were AI-listed,

[20:38] and this is my favorite of them.

[20:38] This is the one I wanted to bring up the most.

[20:40] It is rather interesting, and the fact

[20:42] that it says in the beginning makes me feel

[20:43] like AI wrote this.

[20:44] It is rather interesting.

[20:45] I'll be the judge.

[20:46] It is rather interesting that this film

[20:48] would be released in 2025, after The Bad Guys 2,

[20:51] which will make it DreamWorks' 50th animated feature film,

[20:54] as 50 is divisible by 25.

[20:57] That's the piece of trivia.

[20:58] Is that interesting?

[20:58] Wait, what?

[21:00] That it is DreamWorks' 50th animated film.

[21:02] Oh, fuck, that is interesting.

[21:03] It's released in 2025, and 50 is divisible by 25.

[21:06] How many people do you think found that helpful on IMDb?

[21:09] How many people thought it helpful?

[21:10] I'm gonna go with a goose egg over there.

[21:11] Oh, you're wrong.

[21:12] Nine people found it helpful.

[21:13] Okay, wow.

[21:14] Of course, 49 thumbs down.

[21:15] 49 unhelpful.

[21:17] Nine real breathing human beings, I'm sure,

[21:21] found it super interesting.

[21:23] What this tells me, you're right.

[21:24] I think most of this stuff must be AI-generated,

[21:27] is my guess, which makes me feel both good

[21:30] that a human didn't waste their time on it,

[21:31] and bad that even our dumb IMDb trivia no longer has the,

[21:36] I liked imagining some human person being like,

[21:38] oh, all these exciting discoveries about Gabby's Dollhouse.

[21:41] I've gotta share them with the world, you know?

[21:44] But what do you think of the numerology of that,

[21:45] that it's their 50th animated film, came out in 2025,

[21:49] 50 is divisible by 25, and the number you get is two.

[21:52] That guy's two was the one right before it.

[21:54] Wow.

[21:55] Oh, shit.

[21:56] This goes all the way to the top, oh man.

[21:58] Next thing you know, we're gonna see

[21:59] that Gabby's Dollhouse is in the Epstein files.

[22:01] That's how in the weeds we are,

[22:02] and the conspiracy on this one.

[22:03] And I was born in February, which is the second month,

[22:06] and my birthday's the 26th, which is one more than 25.

[22:10] Wow.

[22:11] Gabby!

[22:12] 26 is also divisible by two.

[22:14] The number you get, 13.

[22:16] 13.

[22:16] Oh, that's a scary number.

[22:18] Yesterday was Friday the 13th.

[22:20] Oh, wow.

[22:21] That's a scary number.

[22:22] That's Jason's birthday.

[22:23] Is it?

[22:24] Yeah.

[22:26] Okay, okay, folks.

[22:28] Well, Vera sees the, and guys, Kristen Wiig in this movie,

[22:33] I mean, I think we'll, I'm sure we'll mention it.

[22:35] I think she gives, I don't know if I would go so far

[22:38] as to say Jim Carrey in the Sonic franchise

[22:41] level of commitment, but she seems committed.

[22:43] Her outfits are great.

[22:45] It's fine.

[22:45] She comes out of this movie looking good.

[22:47] Like, and I think she comes, she doesn't,

[22:49] I feel like this is one, another,

[22:51] we've seen this a number of times now

[22:52] where people who are better than the material

[22:54] that they're in, this, or Jemaine Clement

[22:57] in Harold and the Purple Crayon,

[22:59] or Jim Carrey in the Sonic movies,

[23:00] they do a good job, and you come out being like,

[23:03] I wish that person didn't have to do that movie,

[23:05] because they're, but they did a good job.

[23:07] I liked seeing it.

[23:08] But there's also more good movies for being made.

[23:09] And this character is so, this character, yes, well,

[23:12] and this character is so early set up

[23:14] to be like the Cruella de Vil, like villain-type character,

[23:16] and that's not really what she's doing at all,

[23:18] and it just becomes an excuse for Kristen Wiig

[23:20] to do silly things in the movie.

[23:22] And I'm like, okay, great.

[23:23] This is a good way to handle this.

[23:24] And I have leech blonde hair that's pink at the top, and.

[23:27] And Dan, you were texting us

[23:29] about how attractive you found her.

[23:30] I apologize to the world,

[23:33] but she's a really fun scene in this movie.

[23:36] Yeah, yeah, I mean, the idea that you're drawn

[23:41] to an incredibly wealthy cat lady.

[23:44] Yeah.

[23:44] Who is also stylish.

[23:46] Who does yoga.

[23:46] Who does yoga with her.

[23:47] Yeah, I mean, math.

[23:48] Yeah, the math works out.

[23:50] I don't see a problem with it.

[23:51] But also doesn't seem to like having children around.

[23:54] This is all perfect for Dan.

[23:55] But I think this points to either a good or a bad thing,

[23:59] which is a, whereas people used to be like Anthony Newley

[24:03] in the Garbage Pail Kids movie,

[24:04] where it would be like, you could tell he does not care,

[24:06] and he is not bothering even to stick to the script

[24:08] or do whatever.

[24:09] Like, you could, I feel like when you see people

[24:12] in bad kids' movies now,

[24:13] or in kids' movies that should be disposable,

[24:16] they're really like doing it.

[24:19] Like they're doing a good, they're committing to it.

[24:22] And I think that's both a good thing,

[24:24] because it means we get good performances out of them

[24:25] that lift these movies.

[24:27] But also a bad thing,

[24:28] because it's like you're saying, Dan,

[24:29] I wish they had better movies

[24:30] to make those committed performances in.

[24:32] I think there's also, for the actor,

[24:34] I think there's also something to be said

[24:36] about the idea of being in children's movies

[24:39] can add to your longevity because people like those kids

[24:43] will grow up someday and remember you.

[24:47] And I watch a movie,

[24:48] like if they're putting in a good performance in it,

[24:50] I'm not, like you say, there's no stink on the person.

[24:52] I watch this movie and I admire her for being such a pro,

[24:56] like just really putting it all into the silliness.

[24:59] I feel like people only can come off well

[25:01] when they're committing properly to the role.

[25:03] And like the, like later on,

[25:06] You were saying Jared Leto comes off pretty well, right?

[25:09] I think that's committing improperly to the role.

[25:11] Improperly.

[25:12] Okay, sure.

[25:14] Okay, okay, okay.

[25:15] I'll put that in the don't do's section.

[25:18] My guess is that,

[25:19] That's the do do's, which is next to doo doo,

[25:21] which is very confusing.

[25:22] Which is when everybody does it, Dan.

[25:24] Everybody does doo doo.

[25:25] My guess is that Kristen Wiig was not like,

[25:26] I've got to get into the character of Vera.

[25:28] Let me mail a dead cat to Gabby.

[25:32] I think, which probably at the end of the day

[25:33] when they said, you know,

[25:34] quit in time and they blew that whistle,

[25:36] she took off that wig and said,

[25:37] I'll leave Vera here on the set

[25:38] and I'll be Kristen Wiig for the evening.

[25:41] Yeah, okay.

[25:43] So Vera sees this dollhouse and this looks perfect

[25:46] because as we'll learn,

[25:48] she has a very cat themed apartment,

[25:51] which I'm guessing, I feel like her mansion almost.

[25:53] Yeah, my mistake.

[25:54] Very beautiful home.

[25:55] She has one of those huge apartments

[25:57] where there's no other apartments in the building.

[25:59] What are those called?

[26:00] Those are called, I don't know what they are.

[26:01] Where it's just one person

[26:02] and they don't share the building with other people.

[26:04] What's that apartment called?

[26:05] Well, yeah, I guess I'm revealing my New Yorker status.

[26:08] You've got New York brains.

[26:10] So Stuart's like,

[26:11] well, then they get onto one of those

[26:12] small above ground subways.

[26:14] Oh, you mean a car, Stuart?

[26:15] Yeah, yeah.

[26:17] Oh, wow, check out Mr. Rockefeller over here,

[26:19] owning a car.

[26:21] An early sign of like,

[26:22] we should not be taking Elon Musk seriously

[26:24] when he was like,

[26:25] we're gonna build this thing

[26:26] where you put your cars in like a train underground.

[26:30] And it's like, yeah, dude, it's a subway, man.

[26:32] We have that.

[26:33] It works better when you don't drive a car onto it.

[26:34] What the fuck are you talking about?

[26:37] So Vera sees this dollhouse and she has to have it

[26:41] because it would fit well with her art collection.

[26:43] Vera said that?

[26:44] That was for Dan.

[26:46] I knew he'd get that reference.

[26:48] So she runs over, she puts a stack of cash.

[26:52] They don't do a closeup on the bills,

[26:53] but I'm assuming the president's heads are cat heads.

[26:57] And she buys this dollhouse

[27:01] from a befuddled vintage store owner

[27:03] who did not realize they had a dollhouse there.

[27:05] In the process, she irks some local kitty rangers

[27:09] who are kind of like Girl Scouts.

[27:12] Yeah, they're not like Power Rangers.

[27:13] And this girl is like totally sort of extraneous

[27:16] to the film.

[27:17] I'm not really understanding what her role is.

[27:21] I mean, you're right, Dan,

[27:22] because otherwise it's a real clockwork plot.

[27:24] It's a real house of games on this one

[27:27] where everything pays off in the end.

[27:29] She shows up again later to do basically nothing.

[27:33] She shows up at the end to dance with Kristen Wiig.

[27:35] I'm like, why was this part of the movie?

[27:37] I don't know.

[27:38] I mean, well, as we'll talk about,

[27:40] I feel like the kitty rangers play a pretty pivotal role

[27:42] in the rescue of the Gabby cats,

[27:44] but maybe that's just me.

[27:45] Maybe I'm more of a Gabby cat defendant.

[27:48] Apologist, yeah.

[27:49] I mean, I'm just, I'll just say-

[27:50] Yeah, they know what they did.

[27:52] War crimes.

[27:53] I'm glad that we didn't do more with that character

[27:57] because one of the things that I couldn't,

[27:58] this movie, when you watched it as I did on Prime,

[28:02] it was like an hour and 45 minutes long.

[28:05] And I was like, what?

[28:06] How is this movie so long?

[28:07] But the last like 18 minutes are all credits.

[28:09] And I was so glad that that time was credits

[28:12] rather than more of the Girl Scouts subplot, you know?

[28:16] Okay, so the kitty rangers kind of vow

[28:21] to get back at Vera for this.

[28:23] So Vera takes the dollhouse back to her mansion

[28:27] and she takes out some of the Gabby cat figurines

[28:32] and she places a few of them around her property

[28:35] and puts the rest of them in her purse

[28:37] because she loves her collectibles, she calls them.

[28:40] Not toys, but collectibles.

[28:41] No, collectibles.

[28:43] During this process, Catrat is abandoned in the dollhouse

[28:48] and he, wandering around, bumps into Chumsley,

[28:51] who is Vera's old cat doll,

[28:56] voiced, of course, by Jason Mantzoukas.

[28:57] I think he does a great job, too.

[28:59] He does, and Chumsley is kind of embittered a little bit.

[29:04] Quite a bit, we will learn,

[29:07] because he was Vera's childhood toy

[29:10] who was then abandoned as she got older.

[29:11] He's just like the villain from Toy Story 3.

[29:14] Exactly.

[29:15] You know, yeah.

[29:15] And Chumsley's like the villain from Toy Story 2.

[29:19] And also the villain from Toy Story 2.

[29:21] Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[29:22] And he, along with him-

[29:24] And I think the villain from Toy Story 4, possibly.

[29:27] I haven't seen part four.

[29:28] What happens?

[29:29] I only saw pieces of it.

[29:30] I can't really remember.

[29:32] I can't remember.

[29:33] There's a lot of Forkies in that one, right?

[29:35] Yeah.

[29:36] Who was in that one?

[29:36] Forky.

[29:38] Yeah.

[29:41] You know what?

[29:42] I don't remember Forky.

[29:43] Like, I remember Forky.

[29:45] You know what, I remember Forky.

[29:46] That's right, yeah, yeah.

[29:47] He's the, yeah, yeah.

[29:49] He was an interesting addition to the Toys.

[29:52] To have a kids' movie

[29:52] where one of the characters is constantly

[29:54] trying to kill himself

[29:55] because he believes himself to be trash.

[29:58] It's an interesting choice.

[30:00] Yeah, it's like that dog from Spin City.

[30:01] Do you guys remember that dog?

[30:02] Yeah, that's right, I do remember that dog.

[30:04] And just Michael Boatman can hear him talking, right?

[30:07] Like none of the other characters can hear him talking,

[30:10] but he's always trying to kill himself.

[30:11] Yeah, that's pretty funny.

[30:13] That was an interesting thing for them

[30:14] to throw into a sitcom about how the mayor's office works.

[30:17] What a cast, right?

[30:19] Yeah, it could have been a better cast,

[30:22] season one, they had Carla Gugino,

[30:24] and then she was on the show for the rest of it, you know.

[30:28] RIP to that show.

[30:30] Her character.

[30:31] Yeah.

[30:32] Okay, so, and Chumsley, as we said,

[30:36] Chumsley also is followed along by a collection

[30:38] of these like jelly-looking cat dolls

[30:41] that are also part of her collectible collection, okay.

[30:43] Meanwhile, Gabby, distraught, realizes,

[30:46] you know what, why am I running around,

[30:48] this whole stack is in all the cards.

[30:50] I was like looking, and I'm like, what the hell?

[30:52] How is it possible?

[30:54] Because we're gonna sing all the songs,

[30:55] so I wrote down all the cards.

[30:57] Yeah, Stuart's got a James Lipton-style stack

[30:59] of cards there to tell us about Gabby's dollhouse.

[31:02] Gabby's distraught, but then she realizes,

[31:04] why the fuck am I heel-toeing it around Cat Francisco?

[31:07] Why don't I just use the magic and teleport into the house?

[31:11] So looking directly at the screen,

[31:13] she sings her song, you guys wanna do it with me?

[31:15] Nope.

[31:16] So she says, a pinch on the left,

[31:17] pinch, pinch on the right, what, grab, get a pandy.

[31:21] Hold onto a pandy, hold a pandy's hand,

[31:23] or grab a pandy's hand, yeah.

[31:24] And then they teleport in there.

[31:27] And now she's animated, she appears in the dollhouse,

[31:29] which is kind of in disarray at this point,

[31:31] because Cat Rat and Chumsley are having a ball.

[31:34] They're making a mess and playing.

[31:36] I don't want to-

[31:37] Did we mention the toppers?

[31:38] Chumsley's little henchmen friends, the toppers,

[31:40] they're all pencil toppers.

[31:41] Oh, that's what they are.

[31:42] I described them as like jelly figures.

[31:44] That's right, that's right, that's right.

[31:45] I was thinking about Carl Eugeno, so I missed that part.

[31:48] I don't wanna again, you know,

[31:51] question the logic of Gabby's dollhouse.

[31:53] Do it, Dan, that's why we're here.

[31:57] No, because this is Mythbusters, Gabby's dollhouse.

[32:00] Gabby's dollhouse, fact or fiction, yeah?

[32:03] Yeah, yeah, if I shoot a bullet through Gabby's dollhouse.

[32:08] Once she has, you know, used her power

[32:11] to teleport her to the dollhouse,

[32:13] why does she not merely re-become large

[32:18] and explain her predicament to Kristen Wiig?

[32:22] My assumption is that because she has found herself

[32:25] she is worried she'll be shot as a trespasser.

[32:27] Makes sense.

[32:28] You know, and Kristen Wiig really,

[32:30] her veer is really more of a shoot first,

[32:31] ask questions later type of character, yeah, yeah.

[32:33] This is a much more sad commentary

[32:35] on our current state of affairs, I thought.

[32:36] Oh, it's all in there, Dan, it's all in there, yeah.

[32:38] And you know she would have a pretty stylish little gun,

[32:41] right?

[32:42] Oh, yeah, and it would look like a cat

[32:43] was spitting the bullets out, yeah, yeah.

[32:44] Yeah, that's cool.

[32:46] Oh, you think it's cool, huh?

[32:48] Well, I guess I'm just a little more,

[32:51] a better person than you,

[32:52] because I think it's bad.

[32:54] Yeah, yeah, well, the thing is that in my world

[32:57] I would call something bad if it's cool, so that's why.

[32:59] Oh, okay.

[33:01] Ha ha, so you're both right.

[33:02] So you're both just like the 80s,

[33:04] like the mid to late 80s.

[33:06] Yeah, yeah, it's my world.

[33:08] So does cool mean bad then, if bad means cool?

[33:12] Exactly.

[33:13] So you were really calling it bad

[33:15] and Dan was really calling it cool.

[33:18] Oh, man, I thought I was a good person.

[33:20] Yeah, that's right.

[33:20] It turns out Dan's the bad guy

[33:23] and Stuart is the good guy.

[33:23] But that means I'm good.

[33:24] Oh, boy, merely that you're cool,

[33:28] not necessarily good.

[33:29] True.

[33:30] Okay, so.

[33:31] Nice is different than good.

[33:32] Yeah.

[33:33] Gabby leaves Catrat and Chumsley to guard the dollhouse

[33:36] and then she and Pandy head out

[33:38] to go rescue the missing Gabby cats.

[33:42] They run around this home for a little bit

[33:45] before finding Mercat in the aquarium.

[33:49] So we have a little undersea adventure,

[33:51] there's a song, they eventually rescue Mercat

[33:55] and they escape in a bubble.

[33:59] We'll find that wherever the little cats go,

[34:02] their magic spreads kind of like life and goodness

[34:05] to the things around them.

[34:06] I guess it's what the power of play

[34:08] or something like that, you know?

[34:10] And they kind of like animate the various things

[34:13] that are around them.

[34:13] Yeah.

[34:14] When they rescue Mercat, do they rescue her Merkin?

[34:19] Stuart, please move on.

[34:21] So as the after rescue, you can refer back to that address

[34:25] to tell me to shut up.

[34:26] Yes, please do.

[34:26] So they float away, they're floating through the home.

[34:29] Refer back to, Dan, enough of your disgusting puns.

[34:34] So they're floating away in a bubble

[34:36] and Vera unknowingly opens the door

[34:39] and they go flying out into the garden where they land

[34:43] and they encounter a tribe of kitty gnomes

[34:47] that are like wooden little garden gnome cat characters

[34:51] who are also kind of like savage coded.

[34:55] And they're animated at like a different frame rate

[34:58] than the rest of them to make it look a little more

[34:59] like they're like stop motion or something.

[35:02] Yeah, and they're all the voice by comedians,

[35:04] you know, by comedy people.

[35:06] And unlike the rest who are all Broadway's biggest stars,

[35:12] so-

[35:13] And of course, F. Murray Abraham,

[35:14] who shows up as the grandfather cat.

[35:16] F. Murray Abracat.

[35:18] So they, the kitty gnomes take Gabby and crew

[35:23] to their leader, which of course is Kitty Fairy,

[35:27] who the kitty gnomes are kind of worshiping

[35:29] as both a queen and some kind of a god.

[35:33] They convince Kitty Fairy to sneak out with them.

[35:36] So they try to trick the gnomes

[35:38] who do not wanna give up their new god.

[35:40] They trick them into playing a game of hide and seek,

[35:44] which leads to a flying chase

[35:47] in this kind of ornithopter type contraption

[35:52] that they've created.

[35:53] And the gnomes are just flying dragonflies, right?

[35:55] They're just flying dragonflies.

[35:56] It's pretty cool.

[35:57] Yeah.

[35:58] To be honest, this sequence is my favorite

[36:01] in the movie, I think.

[36:02] It felt like they established a real sketch premise.

[36:05] They pull it off.

[36:06] There's a couple of funny jokes in there.

[36:07] It leads to an exciting, you know, chase.

[36:10] I was like, okay, you know what, movie?

[36:11] You got me for this part, yeah.

[36:13] It even, like, in the climax, of course,

[36:15] is where their makeshift flying machine

[36:18] is falling out of the sky,

[36:19] and part of it involves some gardening gloves.

[36:23] And Vera, looking out her window,

[36:24] sees this contraption falling out of the sky

[36:27] and waves back at it.

[36:29] Yeah, I like this running gag

[36:31] of Kristen Wiig slowly going mad

[36:34] because she thinks she sees,

[36:36] I mean, she does see small people

[36:38] running around with small cats.

[36:40] Ali, just to jump back,

[36:41] you said this is maybe your favorite part.

[36:42] Would you say that your least favorite part

[36:44] was the license plate that said Kitty Wagon on the-

[36:48] I didn't love that.

[36:49] I think that would be my least favorite part

[36:52] if it wasn't for the-

[36:53] Because it's a Kill Bill reference, right?

[36:54] Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[36:55] If it wasn't for the introduction of Cookie Bobby,

[36:57] I think that would be my least favorite part.

[36:58] Oh, wow.

[36:59] Cookie Bobby, when he shows up,

[37:01] he comes out of nowhere.

[37:03] He goes away quickly.

[37:04] He is off-putting and unpleasant.

[37:07] And I was like, why is this here?

[37:09] Why is this happening right now, you know?

[37:12] Well, he's Cookie Bobby.

[37:13] Okay, so they eventually, you know, they-

[37:17] I feel like every kid's movie,

[37:19] there's one thing in it

[37:20] where if a kid sees it at the wrong moment,

[37:22] it becomes a nightmare

[37:23] that they carry with them for the rest of their life.

[37:24] And when Cookie Bobby came up,

[37:25] I was like, that's it.

[37:26] This is the one for this movie.

[37:28] I'm Cookie Bobby.

[37:30] Okay, don't need that.

[37:31] They eventually come to an agreement

[37:35] with the Kitty Gnomes.

[37:37] The Kitty Gnomes realize how much they enjoy

[37:39] playing with our heroes,

[37:41] but they are like, you don't need us to play.

[37:43] You can play with yourselves.

[37:45] And David's like, damn right I can.

[37:48] It's an important message, you know?

[37:50] And so, hooray.

[37:52] So we've got another saved kitty.

[37:54] Now, the rest of them we find out are in Vera's purse.

[37:56] That's gonna be tough.

[37:58] Luckily, just then the Kitty Rangers show up

[38:01] and they play hardball trying to sell,

[38:05] what, like, cake pops or something?

[38:07] Whatever it is they sell

[38:07] that's their equivalent of cookies.

[38:08] They say you have to buy a lot of it

[38:10] if you don't give us that dollhouse.

[38:11] And Vera just gives them a bunch of money and that's it.

[38:14] The weird part, okay,

[38:16] is that initially she tries to close the door on them.

[38:19] And so the little girl blocks it with her shoe.

[38:23] After they come to an agreement,

[38:24] she just closes the door.

[38:26] And I'm like, you should have just locked that thing.

[38:28] But she leaves it,

[38:29] and then the Kitty Rangers just go into her home

[38:33] like it's, I don't know,

[38:35] like it's some kind of home invasion thriller.

[38:37] Yeah, it's real Goldilocks-type energy right here, yeah.

[38:41] Yeah, and, or Funny Games.

[38:44] Yeah, I mean, Goldilocks

[38:45] was essentially the original Funny Games.

[38:48] I don't know, the Funny Games you're thinking of

[38:50] was a remake of another movie called Funny Games.

[38:52] I think that came first.

[38:53] Oh, yeah, that's the original.

[38:54] But that inspired Goldilocks.

[38:55] Oh, yeah, right, you're right.

[38:56] That inspired Goldilocks, that's right.

[38:57] Yeah, yeah, Goldilocks saw Funny Games

[38:59] and goes, I could just go into any house I want

[39:00] and terrorize a bunch of bears.

[39:01] Yeah, sure.

[39:02] Goldilocks, also German, right?

[39:03] It was Golden Locken, right?

[39:05] Something like Geldenlocken, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

[39:06] Geldenlocken, yeah.

[39:08] Und die Treiberren, yeah, exactly.

[39:10] Yeah, okay, oh man,

[39:12] I got like 100 more cards to go through.

[39:14] Please don't.

[39:16] So the Kitty Rangers are running around Veer's home.

[39:20] They are pushing her sculptures around

[39:23] and it's all this fun cat-related stuff.

[39:26] And they're like, you don't play with all this cool stuff.

[39:29] She's like, no, it's collectibles.

[39:31] Meanwhile, Gabby's using this distraction

[39:34] to save, what, Baby Box, all the other ones.

[39:40] You are looking to the wrong people.

[39:40] DJ Catnip, all your favorite cats.

[39:42] Yeah, all the cats that you love.

[39:43] Baby Box, DJ Catnip, at least one other,

[39:45] maybe Pillow Cat.

[39:47] Pillow Cat, maybe.

[39:48] Karlina doesn't need Disney City.

[39:49] I think Cakey's in there.

[39:50] Yeah, Cakey, sure.

[39:52] Okay.

[39:52] Cakey did get bakey earlier, so.

[39:53] Yeah, okay.

[39:56] Mongo Jerry.

[39:57] So they, so she rescues the rest of them.

[40:00] All right, we have all of our team.

[40:01] Why is there so much movie left?

[40:03] Well, we're going to find out.

[40:04] So they go to the dollhouse.

[40:06] That's where they're like, OK, well, we're going to leave.

[40:09] And Chumsley's like, fuck that.

[40:12] I'm not going to go back to my life of not getting played with.

[40:15] This sucks.

[40:16] So he and his cronies kick them out and they board up the windows.

[40:21] And so I want to tie this in.

[40:25] Like we've seen this in a fair number of flop house movies before,

[40:29] including if or if or, you know, like whatever.

[40:34] Yeah, if you're in the Anderson movie with Malcolm McDowell,

[40:38] it's I mean, the word is if it's just like, you know, it's if imaginary friend or whatever.

[40:42] But my point is, if I guess that's true.

[40:46] It's a useful way to spend time.

[40:51] We've seen this message in a lot of these movies where it just seems to be like a.

[40:55] Did I mention my wife earlier was like,

[40:56] we've got things to do today so you can make this a quicker recording.

[40:58] And I'm like, you got it.

[41:00] Can there's a lot of ones where the message seems to be like,

[41:05] can you believe that people grow up and stop playing with things or stop

[41:10] like having imaginary friends or brother?

[41:13] And it's just like, yeah, I don't understand this.

[41:18] Well, this message, Dan, I'm glad you brought it up because this is what

[41:21] this movie I felt like I was going to be like, oh,

[41:23] this movie's gonna be so dumb and crass or whatever.

[41:26] But really, the issue I have with the movie is exactly that the message is like,

[41:30] don't grow up, keep playing with your toys like with it.

[41:32] And I'm like, if there is a problem in America today,

[41:35] it is that adults have stopped growing up in the way that not in the way of like these

[41:40] young people aren't buying houses for the way that we have a lot of old

[41:43] pieces of shit in the government who act like children and do stuff like and

[41:48] pretend the world is a video game or like they're teens online who are

[41:51] memeing through killing people and stuff like that.

[41:54] And I was looking at our current secretary of defense, who's again,

[41:58] I'm just going to live here a piece of shit.

[42:00] Yeah, and that's the fact that he's like, our warfighters need intense lethality.

[42:04] Look at the way we're blowing up all that stuff.

[42:06] Isn't it cool? And it's like, grow up, man.

[42:08] You're one year older than me.

[42:10] And you're acting like you're 14 years old and you're in charge of the military.

[42:13] Like so the message of kids shouldn't grow up and become adults.

[42:17] It's like, no, I disagree. We need more adults.

[42:19] We need more adults in the world.

[42:21] If we lived in a world where people stop playing with their toys,

[42:24] and that means we get movies other than like He-Man and

[42:26] Thundercats and stuff like that in the theaters.

[42:28] Yes. What a wonderful world to live in.

[42:30] Yeah. So Gabby's Dollhouse is your cues.

[42:33] I mean, and clearly, like, we're weird people to make this point,

[42:37] since we're still watching this stuff and being silly about it.

[42:41] And we're watching it for money to make fun of it like an adult.

[42:44] But, you know, like there's borders.

[42:52] There's like lines.

[42:53] I feel like we used to see movies where, like Mary Poppins, where the message is,

[42:59] and Mary Poppins is an old movie, but like the message is,

[43:02] don't lose that sense of wonder or excitement in your life.

[43:05] Which I agree with.

[43:06] Now we're over the hill, through the looking glass or whatever,

[43:09] whatever you want to call it, where it's like, don't grow up ever.

[43:13] Never abandon your Dollhouse imaginary cat friends.

[43:18] Whereas I feel like it's the end of fucking Labyrinth,

[43:22] where instead of leaving her weird little

[43:24] recreated bedroom with the weird pack rat Muppet things,

[43:28] she's like, no, I'll just stay here with all my stuff, all my shit and never leave.

[43:32] Or the end of Toy Story 3, where Andy, instead of giving his toys to a kid, is like,

[43:36] nah, I'm going to hold on to these.

[43:38] These are cool.

[43:38] I want to play with them forever and snatch them out of the hands of a child

[43:42] to take with him to college, when it would be weird.

[43:44] Can you imagine Andy in college having sex with his girlfriend in his dorm room

[43:49] and his toys are just lined up on his desk watching them do it?

[43:52] That would be terrible.

[43:53] That's not a good, we don't want that to happen.

[43:55] We want Andy to give those toys to a kid to play with,

[43:58] not to take them with him to college.

[44:00] Whereas I feel like the message of this movie would be like,

[44:03] take your toys with you to college.

[44:05] Now let's talk about The Brave Little Toaster,

[44:07] where I don't know why he doesn't take those things,

[44:08] because it's a toaster, an electric blanket.

[44:11] Those are useful items.

[44:12] They're not actually toys.

[44:13] A desk lamp?

[44:14] Why doesn't he take those?

[44:15] I don't understand.

[44:16] And again, if you're watching any of the videos,

[44:19] many toys lined up behind me.

[44:22] Dan points to Tiki Mugs and calls them toys.

[44:25] Well, I have over here, there's some little...

[44:28] But Dan, do you play with those toys or are they collectibles?

[44:30] No, they're just things that I enjoy looking at because they bring back...

[44:34] He calls them objects to art.

[44:37] He does.

[44:37] Actually, sometimes he calls them objects to fart,

[44:39] and then he laughs a little bit.

[44:41] Anyway, so continue, Stuart.

[44:42] What else happened?

[44:43] So that's my rant for this episode is children grow up someday,

[44:46] become adults, put away childish things.

[44:48] You can still enjoy the feelings.

[44:50] Not the flop house.

[44:51] No, hold on to that.

[44:52] Hold on to that with a death grip you never let go of.

[44:54] But the...

[44:55] Well, especially since we're aging with it

[44:57] and becoming clearly grumpier as time goes on.

[45:00] I think the idea of like,

[45:01] you should still hold on to the kind of joy

[45:03] that those things once brought to you and apply that.

[45:06] Find ways to achieve that joy

[45:08] so you don't lose wonder, curiosity, beauty, fun from your life.

[45:13] But it doesn't have to be the exact same way you did it as a kid.

[45:15] It doesn't have to be the exact same thing.

[45:17] As I grow older, I realize that part of my sickness,

[45:20] part of why I struggle sometimes to find as much joy in my life as I used to

[45:28] is like I'm clinging to things that used to bring me joy,

[45:31] seeking the same joy and not realizing like,

[45:34] oh, maybe I just need to transfer over to other things

[45:36] that are more effective for me now.

[45:39] Yeah.

[45:40] So you got to grow.

[45:41] You grow and that's the excitement of life is discovery.

[45:44] You know, like 10 milligrams of weed gummies instead of five.

[45:47] Yeah.

[45:50] Okay.

[45:51] So that's why I apologize to everybody,

[45:52] all the kids who came here to hear us talk about Gabby's dollhouse

[45:55] and then I turned into an old man.

[45:57] So Gabby and the Gabby cats all get kicked out of the dollhouse.

[46:01] Chumsley boards up the windows.

[46:03] So Gabby's like, okay, I don't know if I can do this alone.

[46:06] She sends Pandy and Carlita back to Gigi to try and get Gigi to help.

[46:13] And Carlita is a little too sexy, right?

[46:16] Not in her, the way she looks.

[46:18] That's Carlita's way.

[46:19] But the way she is just like she exudes kind of like brat energy,

[46:22] I guess maybe you'd call it,

[46:23] like it's just super in your face and like winking at you.

[46:26] And I'm like, this is intense for a cat car.

[46:29] I haven't seen the cars franchise,

[46:30] but I'm assuming all the cars ladies look like that, right?

[46:34] I mean, they don't look like cats.

[46:35] I still remember like really sexy cars ladies.

[46:37] And they have like tramp stamps or something?

[46:40] No, they just kind of have like big lips, you know, that's just lady lips.

[46:43] That's pretty much it.

[46:44] Okay.

[46:46] Do they give birth by like a little car coming out of their trunk?

[46:50] That's all still a mystery.

[46:52] Okay.

[46:52] Yeah, scientists are still working on it.

[46:55] Should I Google it?

[46:56] I wonder if I'll find anything crazy.

[46:57] Yeah, sure.

[46:58] I mean, the thing is, the cars ladies.

[47:00] Yes, do it.

[47:01] Yeah, do it.

[47:01] This isn't in movie, but they lay eggs.

[47:03] That's how they reproduce.

[47:04] Oh, that actually makes sense.

[47:05] They're actually reptiles.

[47:06] They're cold-blooded creatures.

[47:07] Yeah.

[47:08] Okay, so Gabby and the rest of the cats find a way to sneak into the house.

[47:17] Chumsley sees her magical cat ears and he realizes,

[47:22] and I guess he overhears or he realized that they're the font of her power.

[47:27] So he snatches them off her head.

[47:29] Now he's in control and the dollhouse starts to change

[47:32] as it's tied to his kind of negative vibes.

[47:38] Again, they're kicked out of the house.

[47:41] Gigi arrives.

[47:43] Gigi comforts Gabby.

[47:45] I think Baby Box gives her a new pair of cat ears after she admits

[47:49] that she's nervous about not wanting to play with her cat toys anymore.

[47:54] She gets older.

[47:55] She's like, Gigi, you still play with toys.

[47:57] How do you do it?

[47:58] And she's like, I just do.

[48:00] Like, I don't.

[48:00] Yeah, I just, you know, it doesn't take a lot.

[48:02] Yeah.

[48:04] And so they decide to get Vera involved at this point.

[48:08] So Gabby makes herself normal and human again, terrifying Vera.

[48:13] She convinces Vera to make herself small using a pair of cat ears.

[48:19] And that further breaks her concept of reality as they're all teleported into the dollhouse

[48:26] where Chumsley is baking a magical cake, but he goes a little bit too ham on it.

[48:33] And it causes a magical portal to open,

[48:36] sucking in Chumsley, Cakey, and eventually Vera and Gabby.

[48:41] Yeah, I mean, like, I will say it breaks her concept of reality a little bit,

[48:46] but it still takes Vera a surprising amount of time to come around to the fact

[48:50] that, like, she needs to play with Chumsley,

[48:54] considering that, like, now she knows that, I guess, Chumsley is sentient

[48:58] and needs to be played with or else he will cease to exist and magic will collapse.

[49:03] But that's a lot of weight to put on one brain all at once, right?

[49:07] Yes, true.

[49:08] So speaking of that, they begin Cakey, Vera, and Gabby traverse a desert,

[49:15] my mistake, dessert landscape.

[49:19] They ride horses.

[49:21] What an unplanned joke.

[49:24] Oh, that's what you think.

[49:27] That's what you think.

[49:28] I did make a note about it.

[49:31] So they ride around on horses fashioned out of frosted cookies.

[49:36] They get trapped.

[49:38] They ride along a dessert themed, like, river.

[49:45] They are about to get sucked into a whirlpool when Elliot's favorite dude,

[49:50] Cookie Bobby, chucks them out of the raging watery vortex.

[49:55] Only to get sucked in himself.

[49:57] But he's fine with it.

[49:58] He's probably dead.

[50:00] Nope, he shows up later.

[50:01] He's with us forever now.

[50:03] Yeah, because how could we ever lose Cookie Bobby,

[50:05] a horrifying monstrosity that comes out of nowhere

[50:08] and goes to nowhere.

[50:09] Truly, an incisive statement on the absurdity

[50:13] and meaninglessness of existence.

[50:15] So similar to the-

[50:16] Aren't we all Cookie Bobby at some level?

[50:18] Isn't that the horror we live with daily?

[50:21] So similar to the Dark Tower series,

[50:23] our heroes are traveling across a nightmarish landscape.

[50:28] They're a content.

[50:29] Yep, exactly.

[50:31] And they're chasing a bitter, twisted figure,

[50:35] always feeling like they're one step behind him.

[50:38] And in this case, Chumsley, this evil man or cat doll,

[50:43] he collapses a bridge to try and prevent them

[50:47] from catching him.

[50:49] And then, but the thing is that their presence here,

[50:52] or maybe it's just his, again, his negative vibes

[50:55] are causing the magic of the dollhouse to collapse,

[50:58] which makes the world they're in start to collapse.

[51:01] And there's a moment where Vera and Chumsley

[51:04] kind of save each other, right?

[51:06] Yeah, very sweet.

[51:08] And yeah, it's very sweet.

[51:09] Like the frosting.

[51:10] And they realize that that's,

[51:12] like Vera realizes the error of her ways.

[51:15] Chumsley realized the error of his ways.

[51:18] And then we all get sucked back into the dollhouse.

[51:21] Hooray, power of friendship and love.

[51:23] At this point, we, Gabby and the team,

[51:27] everybody's safe and alive, including Cakey, don't worry.

[51:30] Cookie Bobby shows back up.

[51:31] I thought Cakey got Bakey.

[51:33] But that's still fine.

[51:34] That's ideal, actually.

[51:35] I mean, you have to bake a cake,

[51:36] so it's not that bad for a Cakey to get Bakey, yeah.

[51:38] Yeah, that's a good performance for a Cakey.

[51:41] And they, out from the top of the dollhouse,

[51:44] erupts a cat-shaped balloon, like a dirigible.

[51:48] And they fly all the way back to Gigi's home,

[51:51] leaving Vera returned to human size.

[51:56] And Chumsley and the rest of her collectibles there.

[52:00] But you know what?

[52:02] Vera doesn't treat them as collectibles anymore.

[52:05] No, she plays with her stuff,

[52:06] including the three kitty rangers

[52:08] who are still in her home.

[52:09] They do a little dance.

[52:11] Meanwhile, you know, our heroes go back to Gigi's house,

[52:16] and Gabby completes work on her greatest creation,

[52:21] a gift for her little sister.

[52:23] That's right, a dog-themed dollhouse.

[52:27] A doghouse, if you will.

[52:29] I won't.

[52:30] So that is the end.

[52:32] That's the tale of Gabby's dollhouse.

[52:33] Gabby's dollhouse.

[52:35] Anything bad happen to anybody?

[52:36] No, everybody came out okay, right?

[52:38] No, I mean, and that's one, to be honest,

[52:40] one of the things that I thought

[52:41] that I liked about this movie, it was not for me,

[52:43] was also, it's like, yeah,

[52:45] they didn't feel the need to, like,

[52:47] make people in real danger, you know,

[52:50] or to be like, the world's gonna end if we da-da-da,

[52:54] or they didn't have to punish Chumsley or anything like that.

[52:56] I like any kids' movie-

[52:57] Yeah, they don't have to, like, slice off a paw.

[52:59] Exactly, or, like, hurl him into a,

[53:01] like, trap him somewhere.

[53:03] I like any kids' movie that is about,

[53:06] as much as I don't like the message of,

[53:07] never grow up and always play with your toys,

[53:09] I do like the message of, let's give love to this person,

[53:13] and rather than punishment, you know?

[53:15] It's the whole spirited away thing, man.

[53:17] More movies should be like spirited away.

[53:20] We're already sliding into it,

[53:21] like we're going down a, you know, a hill of frosting,

[53:25] so let's get into Final Judgments.

[53:27] Is this a good, bad movie, a bad, bad movie,

[53:29] a movie you kinda like?

[53:30] As frequently happens,

[53:32] this is not easy to put into our categories.

[53:35] It doesn't fit our very not-good categories

[53:38] that often don't work.

[53:39] But the thing is, we can't fucking change them.

[53:42] I know, we can't.

[53:43] They were handed down on stone tablets.

[53:45] Yeah.

[53:47] And if we don't play with those categories,

[53:49] the categories will go insane and take over the dollhouse,

[53:52] yeah.

[53:52] Well, what I wanna say is like,

[53:53] clearly, clearly not made for me,

[53:56] not intended for me,

[53:57] should not have been watched by me.

[53:59] In fact, the fact that you did watch it

[54:02] means you're now on a watch list.

[54:04] Did you guys watch it

[54:05] with the interactive sing-along mode enabled?

[54:08] No.

[54:09] I didn't even know that was an option.

[54:10] I would've. Oh, yeah.

[54:11] I would've done it.

[54:13] No, like for me, for me, it's a bad, bad movie.

[54:17] I think, actually, for a kid,

[54:21] I kinda like it.

[54:22] Honestly, for what it is, it has a lot of imagination.

[54:27] There's a lot of strange stuff going on.

[54:30] There's funny stuff around the edges

[54:31] where I'm like, that was a little weirder

[54:33] and funnier than it needed to be.

[54:35] It's not to the level that any adult is going to enjoy it.

[54:38] But bad, bad for an adult.

[54:40] I'd say, actually, I wouldn't mind it for a kid.

[54:42] That's what I'd say.

[54:43] There's not too many dirty jokes, right?

[54:46] Ah, no, other than like,

[54:47] kiddie wagon as the license plate,

[54:51] I wouldn't say there really are any.

[54:53] Yeah, and cakey got bakey, I think.

[54:57] That's fine, right?

[54:58] It doesn't really mean anything.

[55:00] I don't even think it's,

[55:01] it's not like a getting baked joke.

[55:03] No, I mean, it's just like-

[55:04] It's literally just that two words rhyme.

[55:06] And it does just show like a little,

[55:07] like a cupcake cat's weirdly human-shaped butt cheeks,

[55:12] which I think is fine.

[55:13] Like kids have butt cheeks.

[55:14] Exactly, if there's anything kids know about already,

[55:17] it is what butts look like.

[55:18] They have them.

[55:19] They're very interested in them.

[55:20] And they think it's very funny.

[55:21] And they think it's funny.

[55:21] Yeah, I'm gonna go with Dan and say like,

[55:23] again, for me, I did not enjoy watching it.

[55:26] But as a kid's movie, I do kind of like it

[55:28] because the message is mostly positive.

[55:30] It's really energetic and upbeat.

[55:32] It is not, it felt to me like I was being drowned in candy,

[55:36] but kids like that.

[55:37] So I just don't.

[55:39] This is not for me.

[55:41] Yeah, I mean, I think it helps

[55:43] that our antagonist character is at least somewhat fun.

[55:49] And yeah, I do like that all the cat designs

[55:53] are all totally different and kind of insane.

[55:57] So yeah, I'll agree with you guys.

[56:00] We're all in agreement.

[56:01] It's what, kind of liked or not for us.

[56:04] I think it's a movie we kind of liked for other people,

[56:07] for younger people, yeah.

[56:08] That's like my mom said

[56:09] when she saw Hedwig and the Angry Inch years ago,

[56:11] this is for younger people, is what she told me.

[56:16] I think it was a real refreshing thing to me

[56:19] when I saw the trailer for this before some other movie.

[56:21] It was probably Bad Guys 2 or something like that.

[56:23] And I immediately was like,

[56:25] oh, so Kristen Wiig's playing the villain

[56:27] who's gonna try to make money off the cats

[56:29] or something like that.

[56:31] But it was a really refreshing thing to be like,

[56:32] oh no, she just likes cats.

[56:34] And she needs to reconnect with her childhood self, I guess.

[56:39] But it's not her trying to misuse,

[56:41] she's not really a villain at all.

[56:43] She's coded as the villain as soon as she shows up

[56:46] and then she's not a villain.

[56:47] She buys it.

[56:48] And that's the meanest thing she does

[56:50] is buying the dollhouse out from under a child

[56:54] who would more enjoy the dollhouse in its intended form.

[56:58] She just needs to recalibrate her concept of toys,

[57:02] right guys?

[57:03] Yeah, exactly.

[57:04] Yeah, the movie, toys.

[57:04] Toys, the movie.

[57:06] She's gotta understand that it's meant to be not enjoyable.

[57:10] Yes.

[57:13] It's supposed to be unpleasant, yes.

[57:16] Mission accomplished.

[57:19] Was that why George W. Bush was on that aircraft carrier

[57:21] with the Mission Accomplished banner?

[57:22] We have managed to make toys.

[57:24] It is a big movie with good people in it

[57:27] that is not enjoyable.

[57:28] We did it.

[57:29] It looks really fun, but it ain't.

[57:32] It looks not cool.

[57:34] You'll think it's going to be fun.

[57:37] I don't know what voice I'm doing now.

[57:38] We have managed to take grimness and bleakness

[57:42] and put a thin layer of whimsy on the top

[57:45] to convince you that it will be fun, but it is not.

[57:48] It's gonna pretend to have an anti-war message,

[57:50] but at the end, the good toys go to war.

[57:53] So who knows?

[57:54] But thematically it still works

[57:56] because those action scenes are terrible.

[58:00] It does not make you want to be involved in them.

[58:02] You will be disappointed at the end

[58:04] that you don't get a really good view, a good visual

[58:08] of the kind of octopus underwater toy

[58:11] that is dangerous at the end.

[58:12] You guys remember that, right?

[58:13] There's some kind of killer toy or something

[58:15] that you barely get to see, yeah.

[58:17] Killer toys.

[58:18] If ever a movie was misbegotten, it is toys.

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[1:02:10] This is a message for future Dr. Matthew Coleman Stout, and it comes from Eric Stout.

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[1:02:48] Hey, Dan, before we move on, can I plug a couple of my things?

[1:02:51] Yeah, please do.

[1:02:52] I just got three things to plug.

[1:02:53] I've got my new comic book, Barbarian Behind Bars.

[1:02:55] It's on store shelves now, unless it's sold out.

[1:02:57] I got Harley Quinn from DC Comics.

[1:02:59] I'm still writing every month on comic book store shelves now.

[1:03:02] And if you want to know about how to write jokes, why not check out my book, Joke Farming,

[1:03:05] How to Write Comedy and Other Nonsense, at the University of Chicago Press.

[1:03:08] While we record this, it is only $3.99 for the e-book version.

[1:03:12] I don't know if that will still be going on when this episode comes out, but try it.

[1:03:16] Those are my plugs.

[1:03:17] And I would also like to do a brief plug.

[1:03:20] My wife has opened up a fitness studio in Sunset Park, Brooklyn.

[1:03:25] It's next to our Bar Minis.

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[1:03:37] If you are not in Brooklyn, first off, if you're in Brooklyn, hey, you should come by

[1:03:40] and take a class.

[1:03:41] It's really fun.

[1:03:42] We now offer memberships and all kinds of cool things.

[1:03:46] But if you're not in Brooklyn and you would like to support or at least show some support

[1:03:50] to Jiggle and its message, we do now have an online merch store.

[1:03:54] Just go to jigglestudio.printful, that's P-R-I-N-T-F-U-L dot M-E, me.

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[1:04:07] So you can show off, you know, what a cool person you are by picking up some Jiggle merch.

[1:04:17] I forgot to ask, Stuart, the extra cards that you have over there, is that just to keep

[1:04:23] us guessing?

[1:04:24] No, I just printed off a lot and I was scrambling to get my notes down on the card, so I didn't

[1:04:29] edit, I didn't take out the ones I didn't need.

[1:04:32] I was like, I wonder if he's just doing it so we don't know, we don't know how close

[1:04:37] we are to the end.

[1:04:38] Yeah, maybe.

[1:04:39] You know, it's like how, speaking of fitness, it's like how if I'm at yoga and I can't see

[1:04:47] the tiny clock up front, it's kind of better because I don't know where we are in the class.

[1:04:52] Yeah, sure.

[1:04:53] You just lose yourself in the moment, you own it.

[1:04:55] This opportunity is a one shot at yoga, mom's spaghetti.

[1:04:58] I started taking hot yoga again and it's been really great.

[1:05:03] It's been totally annihilating me and there's been times where, this last time, there's

[1:05:09] a guy working out next to me and while I was like during one of the rest periods, I'm like,

[1:05:13] you know, in child's pose, just kind of like fighting for my life, trying to survive and

[1:05:17] I look over and this dude is next to me doing fucking handstands and shit, I'm like, what?

[1:05:22] Yeah, people can get real strong doing it.

[1:05:26] Anyway, let's move on.

[1:05:28] We've gone down a cul-de-sac, let's reverse the car, let's move on to letters.

[1:05:33] K-turn, K-turn, K-turn, let's get out of there.

[1:05:35] Yeah, three point turnabout.

[1:05:36] First letter's from Spencer, last name with an L.

[1:05:38] For hire?

[1:05:39] Yeah.

[1:05:40] It's Robert Uric, the late Robert Uric.

[1:05:44] Robert Uric Acid.

[1:05:47] Time travel shows up, we just say things, you know, doesn't matter.

[1:05:50] Hey man, words sound like other words, how many times do I have to say it, you know?

[1:05:54] Time travel shows up everywhere in film, everywhere.

[1:05:57] It sure does, everywhere, every movie.

[1:05:59] Well, all movies are traveling forward through time at the rate of one second per second.

[1:06:02] Guys, that was the joke I was going to make.

[1:06:04] Well, you should have been faster, because I time traveled ahead and got to it.

[1:06:10] Shows up everywhere in film, sometimes brilliantly, oftentimes not.

[1:06:13] What are the best slash most clever uses of time travel in movies you kind of like?

[1:06:18] What are some bad, bad examples?

[1:06:21] What method of time travel do you find the most plausible?

[1:06:25] Keep on flopping, Spencer, last name withheld.

[1:06:30] I think I'm going to say one of the ones that I like the most, I really like the Christopher

[1:06:37] Nolan's movie Tenet, because the time travel in it is so quick, like you visit, like you're

[1:06:43] just like, yeah, you're going backwards now, like, you're not like jumping around, you're

[1:06:48] like, nope, time's, you, it feels the same to you, it's just time is going backwards,

[1:06:53] baby.

[1:06:54] So when a car chases you, it chases you in reverse.

[1:06:56] Yes.

[1:06:58] I mean, I like, I don't love this stupid movie.

[1:07:01] It feels like Christopher Nolan's like, it grew on me.

[1:07:03] Yeah, I got to say that, like, I, it might still be my least favorite of his.

[1:07:08] I tend to like his movies, but seeing it when it was briefly re-released, because it was

[1:07:13] like, let's take another shot at this since COVID, the first time seeing it in the theater

[1:07:18] where I was like forced to pay attention, it was like big and loud.

[1:07:21] I'm like, okay, I know I'm not going to follow this, like, on that level, I'm enjoying what's

[1:07:26] going on.

[1:07:27] But even like, not going to follow it.

[1:07:28] There's not that much to follow.

[1:07:29] I feel like Christopher Nolan has really, at times, he makes movies that seem more complicated

[1:07:35] than they are, like Interstellar is like that, where it's like, it's not really that complicated.

[1:07:40] It makes you think it's more complicated than it is.

[1:07:42] It's basically a James Bond movie with some extra stuff in it.

[1:07:45] Yes, exactly.

[1:07:46] Which I don't hate.

[1:07:47] No, no.

[1:07:48] I like it.

[1:07:49] If I went into it with that mindset, I think I probably would have enjoyed it more, but

[1:07:52] I was expecting something more than I got.

[1:07:55] So maybe I'll see Tenet again someday.

[1:07:56] But I wonder, two time travel movies that I think do it really well, and partly because

[1:08:00] they are low budget enough that they're not special effects-y movies are, of course, Primer

[1:08:05] and Time Crimes, which are both great time travel movies, where it's more about, it's

[1:08:11] less about the act of traveling through time and more about kind of like the effect of

[1:08:15] traveling through time, you know, or something like that.

[1:08:17] Yeah.

[1:08:18] I mean, I'm going to mention probably the first movie that everyone thinks about with time

[1:08:23] travel these days.

[1:08:25] Time After Time?

[1:08:26] Yeah.

[1:08:27] I said these days because I don't want LA to be like, the time machine, and then you

[1:08:31] said Time After Time.

[1:08:32] But I said it as a joke because I'm like, nobody thinks about that movie anymore.

[1:08:36] No, still Back to the Future, like, it's just, as like pure entertainment, is so much fun.

[1:08:42] It's just like everything works in that movie, works so well that you don't really think

[1:08:47] about how much of it is about not sleeping with your partner.

[1:08:52] My favorite joke in the TV show Glow is still Mark Maron's character being like, I wrote

[1:08:57] this script, but Hollywood would never make it because it's so fucked up.

[1:09:00] It's about this guy who's back in time and his mom wants to fuck him.

[1:09:03] And they're like, uh, that was the number one movie in the country.

[1:09:09] But yeah, just as pure like time travel entertainment, I love that.

[1:09:13] As like very silly time travel, I love at the end of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure

[1:09:19] when they're like, we'll just remember to come back and put the key.

[1:09:23] I love that.

[1:09:24] I feel like Bill and Ted does a better job of doing a real time travel movie than most

[1:09:28] other movies, even though it's a comedy, like, so we'll just leave it here.

[1:09:31] How we know?

[1:09:32] Well, we will just know to go back and have done it like it's such a great way to handle

[1:09:36] that situation.

[1:09:37] But in terms of like plausibility, like I, you know, I like the 12 Monkeys view of it

[1:09:42] where it's like, okay, well, you can't really change anything because it's already happened.

[1:09:46] I, you know, I like the view of it.

[1:09:49] Yes.

[1:09:50] I like the Avengers Endgame view of it where it's like, well, we're not going to change

[1:09:53] the future.

[1:09:54] We're going to like split timelines because, you know, like that makes more sense to me

[1:09:58] both of those things then because.

[1:10:00] If there was real time travel, you know, there'd be so many holes in baby Hitler's cradle right now.

[1:10:07] You'd like to think so.

[1:10:09] Yeah. Who knows?

[1:10:11] You're not going to shoot a baby, Dan. You smother a baby.

[1:10:14] Okay. But yeah, I mean, I don't really have like examples of like bad time travel, like spring to mind.

[1:10:21] I do. I think the thing that gets to me is when you see a movie where – so I like the movie Frequency.

[1:10:28] Like that's a good movie, but that movie does bad time travel stuff where it's like something will happen in the past and the future will – or the present will change instantly as if –

[1:10:36] In real time, yeah.

[1:10:37] In real time when in reality it would have always been that way.

[1:10:40] So something where like – I think it's in that movie where a character like loses a finger or something in the past and then suddenly their finger like disappears in the present.

[1:10:47] Right.

[1:10:48] And they're like, huh? And like that's not – that person would have always lost that finger.

[1:10:51] There's a part where they like carve into a desk and they see it appearing. I remember.

[1:10:54] Exactly. Like that – it's a fun movie, but that's not – time travel would not work that way.

[1:10:59] It doesn't make any sense because it still implies –

[1:11:02] It's like waves, man.

[1:11:03] It implies that there's this eternal present that the characters are always in.

[1:11:07] Yeah.

[1:11:08] But that movie is really more about dads and sons, so I'm going to buy it. It's not about science.

[1:11:13] Yeah. Any more thoughts before we move on?

[1:11:17] I would say also in terms of time travel is most likely impossible.

[1:11:22] So there's part of me that kind of believes more –

[1:11:24] Except for the way we currently travel through time.

[1:11:27] Exactly. Forward through time at the rate of one second per second.

[1:11:30] I guess time is an illusion they tell us and it's all happening.

[1:11:33] And the way we travel backwards in time using our memories and through the art of storytelling.

[1:11:38] Well, that's the thing is when I see a time travel movie that uses kind of a more mystical form of time travel, I'm like, okay.

[1:11:44] Maybe you could do it that way because it's not really scientifically possible to physically go back to the past or physically to go into a future which does not exist yet.

[1:11:52] And even if those things do exist because time is a continuum and we're just traveling along it, our perception of reality does not allow us to do those things.

[1:12:01] So sorry, time travel. You burned.

[1:12:03] What about Time Cop?

[1:12:04] Time Cop has that really great part where he does the splits.

[1:12:07] Uh-huh.

[1:12:08] Yeah.

[1:12:09] It's real to find.

[1:12:11] But that's because he put the time into his workout.

[1:12:13] Thank you.

[1:12:14] Yeah.

[1:12:15] Yeah.

[1:12:16] Nate, last name withheld.

[1:12:19] Bluh.

[1:12:20] Right.

[1:12:21] That was not a bluh to you, Nate.

[1:12:22] It was just about my –

[1:12:23] No, no.

[1:12:24] It wasn't that his last name was Bluh.

[1:12:25] Yeah.

[1:12:26] Named after a vampire.

[1:12:27] It's pronounced Bluhgotsy, by the way.

[1:12:28] Okay.

[1:12:29] Bluhgotsy.

[1:12:30] Nate writes, I realized in the past few years that I'm a big fan of what I think of as damp stories.

[1:12:39] So is Dan.

[1:12:40] I struggle to define damp, but I know it when I see it.

[1:12:44] It's a vibe.

[1:12:45] Certainly, the world should be physically damp.

[1:12:47] Things should be mildewy.

[1:12:49] Paint should be peeling.

[1:12:50] But also, the story should be about folks with waterlogged souls and societies that are falling apart like wet bread.

[1:12:57] Some of my favorite damp fiction books are The Sunken Land Begins to Rise Again by M. John Harrison,

[1:13:04] Jeff Vandermeer's Southern Reach books, and recently, Julia Armfield's books Our Wives Under the Sea and Privates' Rights.

[1:13:13] Film-wise, though, I need some recommendations.

[1:13:16] Tarkovsky's Stalker is probably the ultimate damp film.

[1:13:20] Annihilation is pretty damn damp.

[1:13:22] Blade Runner is quite damp.

[1:13:24] Moist.

[1:13:25] Yeah.

[1:13:26] I'm currently designing a damp video game, so if the Peaches have any damp films to recommend, I'd be grateful for the inspiration.

[1:13:34] Obviously, the wettest horror movies of all time.

[1:13:38] You're going to say Jaws.

[1:13:40] I'm going to say No, No, No, Hellraiser 1 and 2.

[1:13:42] Those are the wettest horror movies.

[1:13:44] Everything is damp because it's covered in blood and sweat.

[1:13:47] Yeah, those are great.

[1:13:49] Dagon is pretty damp.

[1:13:50] Dagon is super damp.

[1:13:52] That's perfect for that.

[1:13:53] It's a creature from the sea.

[1:13:54] It makes sense.

[1:13:55] Yeah.

[1:13:56] I mean you mentioned Blade Runner.

[1:13:58] Alien is a movie that I like for the dampness that shouldn't exist.

[1:14:01] The fact that they have that room where there's just chains and dripping water on a spaceship, that shouldn't be there.

[1:14:05] But there is something very damp and gooey about that movie.

[1:14:08] If you've never seen The Element of Crime, Lars Von Trier's early movie, it's incredibly damp and kind of rotting away.

[1:14:16] And we mentioned – Dan, you mentioned Twelve Monkeys.

[1:14:19] Twelve Monkeys is not a wet movie, but I remember seeing that theaters and being like this is a really grimy, rotting world.

[1:14:25] It's an unpleasant world to be in.

[1:14:27] No, that's true.

[1:14:28] I think that that qualifies.

[1:14:30] If you're looking for like a goofy B movie, the Rucker Hauer action movie Split Second takes place in a world that's basically like partially flooded.

[1:14:41] Maybe I'm taking it too literally because it has so much to do with water and eels.

[1:14:46] But I just watched A Cure for Wellness recently.

[1:14:48] So it's got the literal dampness but also kind of the – I don't know, vaguely Lovecraftian dampness you're looking for I think.

[1:14:57] Yeah, I wonder if like – if dampness is different than like – yeah, it's different than like stickiness or gooeyness or like that kind of wetness.

[1:15:07] Well, we don't need to worry about it.

[1:15:11] We don't. We can just move on.

[1:15:13] Because there's a difference between dampness and like when there's like a monster in a movie and it's just slathered and kind of like goo, like wet that way, right?

[1:15:20] Yeah.

[1:15:21] Okay.

[1:15:22] Yeah.

[1:15:23] Let's move on to recommendations.

[1:15:25] Damp Yankees.

[1:15:26] Also Damp Yankees, the musical.

[1:15:27] That's a better game.

[1:15:28] The game should have been rained out, but they play it anyway.

[1:15:31] I was worried you were talking about the super group, but I'm like I don't like Ted Nugent though.

[1:15:35] Nobody does.

[1:15:37] I'm just not sure.

[1:15:39] A lot of people do, but I don't.

[1:15:40] Pardon me while I burp and now moving on.

[1:15:42] Ted Nugent though is a great candy bar.

[1:15:47] Let's do recommendations, movies that – for adults might be a better use of one's time.

[1:15:54] I recently – speaking of adults and kids, I recently rewatched Time Bandits and I was sort of amazed looking back at how much I loved that as a kid because I'm like watching it as an adult.

[1:16:07] I'm like goddamn, this movie is weird.

[1:16:10] I mean not just in like the – like a bunch of weird stuff happens in it, but the – like Audrey was in the room for the ending and I explained to her what happened at the end of that film and she's like what?

[1:16:23] Like spoiler for a movie from 1981, but the film – a movie that's at least sort of pitched for children.

[1:16:31] I think it was not necessarily intended as that at the time, but it's certainly meant to be a movie for everyone to some degree.

[1:16:40] People who are young at heart.

[1:16:41] Yeah.

[1:16:42] I watched that movie recently.

[1:16:44] Wait, hold on.

[1:16:45] Let me finish my idea.

[1:16:46] Okay.

[1:16:47] It ends with the parents of the main character touching a piece of ultimate evil, exploding the father figure from another time, driving off and leaving the child alone, at which point a map of the universe gets folded up and George Harrison plays, and that's the end.

[1:17:06] Yeah, I was going to say I recently watched that with my younger son for the first time and he liked it but I think was weirded out by it.

[1:17:11] And the ending – certainly he was like – I didn't like the ending.

[1:17:13] He was like I didn't think – the parents weren't that bad that they had to be destroyed at the end.

[1:17:17] No.

[1:17:18] No, man.

[1:17:19] He was all about it as a kid.

[1:17:20] But yeah, watching it – there's just like jokes in there that I really loved this time around watching Ian Holm as Napoleon.

[1:17:28] Like he's watching Punch and Judy and he's angry at anything that's not Punch and Judy.

[1:17:33] He's just like I just want to watch little things hitting each other because they make a whole – it's all these Napoleon short jokes of course.

[1:17:40] But he's like I want to watch little things doing violence and backstage the stage manager is about to shoot himself because he has nothing else.

[1:17:51] And then all of the little people like God's helpers, bandits run up and he's like, oh, delivered from my – it's just such a weird joke but I thought it was so funny.

[1:18:06] Also, I just love the idea of a time travel story where they just have a giant map of the universe that somehow they can figure out and find where – like how to travel around through time.

[1:18:17] I'm going to recommend a movie that is – this one is a tough one.

[1:18:24] This is a tough one for you to watch but this is tough as in it's hard to find.

[1:18:30] I recently went to a screening of the Hank's Saloon documentary.

[1:18:35] This was directed by a friend of the podcast, Ashley Atkinson's husband, Leon Chase.

[1:18:42] This is him filming the last few months of a somewhat legendary Brooklyn dive bar, Hank's Saloon.

[1:18:51] He captures kind of the history of Brooklyn as a borough and the history of that property and the various bars that inhabited that property and then takes a look at kind of the lifespan of this neighborhood bar.

[1:19:06] There's a lot of interviews with former bartenders, with some of the bar flies.

[1:19:13] I think it does a very good job of capturing kind of what makes a neighborhood bar special and the way that like a group of local weirdos can create this kind of interesting little community despite being surrounded by a neighborhood that is rapidly gentrifying and like all the characters being kind of ironed out of the neighborhood and the way that like incessant progress kind of does that.

[1:19:38] I think that there's a lot of neighborhood bars that kind of feel like Hank's but Hank's also felt like a little bit extra special and so I think it's a really fun documentary.

[1:19:47] It was also – I'm kind of a little too close to the material like a lot of those bar flies.

[1:19:53] I'm like, oh man, I definitely got trapped talking to that guy before but this is a movie.

[1:20:00] that is currently, they did a couple screenings

[1:20:02] at the Nighthawk and now I think they're doing

[1:20:04] like a little bit of a road show

[1:20:06] around some bars in Brooklyn

[1:20:09] and hopefully it will make some festival appearances.

[1:20:13] But that's the Hank's Saloon documentary.

[1:20:15] And I was reminded on your,

[1:20:17] one of your model painting streams

[1:20:18] that our producer, Alex Smith, played Hank's Saloon

[1:20:21] at one point.

[1:20:22] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:20:23] I saw a show there.

[1:20:25] You were seeing friends play there, yeah.

[1:20:26] Yeah.

[1:20:28] My recommendation is a movie

[1:20:30] from my second favorite filmmaking duo.

[1:20:32] You guys know that if there's a filmmaking duo

[1:20:34] I love above all others, it's the Coen Brothers.

[1:20:36] But if there's a second favorite

[1:20:38] that I love above most others, except the Coen Brothers,

[1:20:41] it is Powell and Pressburger, The Archers.

[1:20:44] And this is a movie of theirs I had not seen until recently,

[1:20:47] which is called The Small Back Room.

[1:20:49] And it's a black and white movie.

[1:20:50] It's not their beautiful color that they're often known for.

[1:20:53] But it does star David Farrar and Kathleen Byron

[1:20:55] who are favorites of theirs.

[1:20:57] They're also both in Black Narcissus,

[1:20:58] which is a movie I love.

[1:21:00] And it's a movie from 1949 that's set during World War II.

[1:21:04] And David Farrar plays a, he is a scientist

[1:21:08] who has only one foot and the other foot

[1:21:11] is a tin prosthetic.

[1:21:13] And as a result of that,

[1:21:15] he is struggling with feelings of inadequacy,

[1:21:17] with alcoholism, and he is being self-destructive

[1:21:20] and also destructive towards his love interest,

[1:21:23] Kathleen Byron, who's trying to stand by him.

[1:21:25] And at the same time, he's also trying to solve

[1:21:27] the problem of these kind of devices

[1:21:30] that are being dropped on England by the Nazis

[1:21:33] that when you touch them, they explode,

[1:21:34] or you pick them up, they explode.

[1:21:36] How do you find a way to defuse these

[1:21:37] so they're no longer a danger?

[1:21:39] And it's super tense.

[1:21:41] The personal stuff is really good in it.

[1:21:43] The military stuff is really tense and really good in it.

[1:21:45] It's a small scale movie,

[1:21:46] but it just feels very suspenseful

[1:21:49] and very kind of meaningful.

[1:21:51] There's also funny parts.

[1:21:52] And I will say the only,

[1:21:54] there's one part where it gets a little too,

[1:21:56] he has like a needs desperately,

[1:22:00] wants to drink type sequence

[1:22:02] that gets a little too literal

[1:22:05] in that he's literally being squeezed out of a room

[1:22:07] by a giant bottle of whiskey.

[1:22:10] And it's like, all right,

[1:22:11] well, this is getting a little silly.

[1:22:13] But-

[1:22:14] It sounds pretty cool though.

[1:22:15] It does sound cool, but it's cool to watch.

[1:22:16] And it's a Powell Pressburger movie,

[1:22:18] so it looks great.

[1:22:19] It looks beautiful.

[1:22:21] And so that's the small back room.

[1:22:22] I highly recommend it.

[1:22:24] Great.

[1:22:24] Well, let's take pity on Elliot's wife

[1:22:26] and wrap this up as quickly as possible, Mal.

[1:22:29] She thanks you.

[1:22:30] And I thank you for her thanking you, yeah.

[1:22:32] And I thank Maximum Fun.

[1:22:34] Go to maximumfun.org.

[1:22:35] Check out all the other great shows on the network.

[1:22:37] Hey, MaxFunDrive's coming up soon.

[1:22:40] We're gonna do three full episodes in a row for the drive.

[1:22:43] We're doing a thing.

[1:22:44] No minis.

[1:22:45] No minis during drive, all fulls, yeah.

[1:22:47] And we're doing a thing where we torture one another

[1:22:49] with movie picks for the group.

[1:22:54] So Stuart picked Exit to Eden, I believe.

[1:22:58] Enjoy it, suckas.

[1:22:59] I picked Fear.com.

[1:23:01] Oh no.

[1:23:02] And Elliot got real mean and picked 40 Days and 40 Nights.

[1:23:05] I feel like that's a crime.

[1:23:07] I know.

[1:23:08] I was like, what's the movie that'll hurt Stuart the most?

[1:23:10] And I know he hates the most.

[1:23:12] Like, well, there could be that home movie

[1:23:15] of Stuart's parents not giving him a birthday gift.

[1:23:17] Aw.

[1:23:18] Oh no.

[1:23:19] No, no, no, no, no.

[1:23:20] That was crazy.

[1:23:21] Birthdays truly were the worst days, yeah.

[1:23:23] So that'll be coming up soon in late April.

[1:23:27] But thank you to the network.

[1:23:31] Thank you to Alex Smith, our producer,

[1:23:34] Hank's saloon performer.

[1:23:37] You can find him online as HowlDotty

[1:23:40] doing streams and music and his own podcast.

[1:23:44] But for our podcast, The Flophouse,

[1:23:46] I've been Dan McCloy.

[1:23:48] And I'm Stuart Wellington.

[1:23:49] I'm Elliot Kalin.

[1:23:51] Okay, let's get out of here

[1:23:52] so now we can go have fun with this family.

[1:23:54] What's your favorite big cat?

[1:24:03] Is it the tiger, the puma?

[1:24:06] I mean, Tony the tiger probably, right?

[1:24:08] Because he's a friendly gay icon.

[1:24:11] That's true.

[1:24:13] I think he could pull off a neckerchief, Dan.

[1:24:15] Yeah, I think so.

[1:24:16] The thing about Tony the tiger is

[1:24:18] he was out at a time when it was not easy

[1:24:20] for a cartoon tiger who is a pitchman for cereal to be out.

[1:24:24] I mean, Snagglepuss.

[1:24:26] Snagglepuss, no, no.

[1:24:27] Snagglepuss, it was like Liberace.

[1:24:29] He was like, I can never come out publicly

[1:24:31] because of my female fans.

[1:24:33] They need to know they have a chance with me, you know?

[1:24:38] Maximum fun.

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[1:24:40] Of artist-owned shows.

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