Episode #385 - Amsterdam

Dan McCoy

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss Amsterdam.

Elliott Kalan

[0:03] It's an epic multiverse crossover,

[0:06] the movie that finally brings together

[0:07] Batman, Harley Quinn, Gamora,

[0:10] Ilyana Rasputin, General Zod,

[0:12] Black Klansman, Austin Powers,

[0:14] Marty the Zebra, Raylan Givens,

[0:15] Freddie Mercury, Dr. Victor Ehrlich,

[0:17] Travis Bickle, and Bombalarina.

[0:19] Though none of them are playing those characters.

[0:22] Man, what a movie that would have been.

[0:24] Not this one.

[0:30] Hey everyone, and welcome to The Flophouse.

Dan McCoy

[0:48] I'm Dan McCoy.

Elliott Kalan

[0:49] Ooh boy, it's me, Stuart Wellington.

[0:52] And I'm Elliot Kalin, and I have a little bit of a cold,

[0:55] so Stuart may need to take over the summary

[0:56] of the movie from me some way through.

[0:58] That's Elliot, because I was like,

[1:00] I was like, who's that sexy boy?

Dan McCoy

[1:01] Yeah, ooh, crackly.

Elliott Kalan

[1:03] When I have a cold, I do sound like a sexy boy.

[1:06] Causes a lot of trouble.

Dan McCoy

[1:09] Why is the crackly voice sexy?

Stuart Wellington

[1:12] Stuart, tell us.

[1:14] Yeah, it's because it sounds like

[1:16] you're not long for this world,

[1:18] so it's like any, you know.

[1:21] The inheritance will come to you faster.

Elliott Kalan

[1:22] Exactly, yeah.

[1:23] That's why it's hotter.

[1:24] Yeah, yeah, and all beauty comes from

[1:26] this fleeting impression on the mind

[1:28] in this temporal space.

[1:29] Wait, let me find out.

Stuart Wellington

[1:30] I'll text my friend Anna Nicole Smith real quick.

Elliott Kalan

[1:34] It gives me more of a Kathleen Turner feel,

[1:37] I feel like.

Stuart Wellington

[1:38] Yes, that's what I was thinking when you said that.

[1:40] I'm like, if I close my eyes,

[1:42] is he Jessica Rabbit?

[1:43] Yeah, it's like there's a crackling fire

Dan McCoy

[1:46] inside your mouth.

[1:48] Ow, ooh, just like in those,

Elliott Kalan

[1:50] was it, what gum commercial was it

[1:52] where they would say,

[1:53] the inside of your mouth is a blistering 98.6 degrees

[1:57] as if that was not the normal human temperature.

[1:59] Exactly, yeah, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[2:00] And it's like footage of people

[2:03] like sweating their asses off.

[2:04] It's like, get out of that dude's mouth, idiot.

Elliott Kalan

[2:07] Like, as if people are walking around going like,

[2:09] ah, ah, ah, my own tongue.

[2:11] Ah, it's suffering.

[2:13] Ah.

Dan McCoy

[2:13] Well, as you've surely guessed by now,

[2:15] this is a podcast where we watch a movie

[2:17] that was a critical or commercial or both flop.

[2:21] And then we talk about it.

[2:22] We discuss what we thought of it.

[2:24] Usually making some jokes and japes along the way.

[2:28] It's called The Flophouse.

[2:29] It's been going on for 15 years.

[2:31] Put it in your ears.

[2:32] You're doing it right now.

[2:33] You're soaking in The Flophouse.

[2:36] Wow.

[2:36] Dan, it feels like you're stalling.

[2:38] That's the first take on that shit.

Elliott Kalan

[2:39] It feels like you're stalling

[2:40] until a sniper can take one of us out.

Stuart Wellington

[2:43] Keep going.

[2:45] If you line up perfectly,

[2:47] the hitman will get that achievement

[2:49] or whatever the fuck.

Dan McCoy

[2:50] And this is our second David O. Russell picture,

[2:53] although the first one he took his name off of,

[2:55] male slash accidental love.

Elliott Kalan

[2:58] Cool, cool, cool, cool.

[3:00] This time we do not have the screenwriter with us

[3:02] because the screenwriter this time was David O. Russell.

[3:04] Uh-huh.

[3:04] Interesting.

[3:05] Who, by all accounts,

[3:05] is a genuinely unpleasant person to be around.

[3:07] So he asked to be on the show and we said nothing.

Dan McCoy

[3:10] Yes.

[3:11] I've only heard negative things

[3:12] except from a mutual friend of ours, Elliot,

[3:14] who I will not name for their own safety,

[3:17] who was like,

[3:17] no, he's a nice guy.

[3:19] But he seems unreliable.

Elliott Kalan

[3:21] I imagine he is one of those people

[3:23] who is a nice guy to some people

[3:26] and a real nightmare to other people.

Dan McCoy

[3:28] Yeah, exactly.

[3:28] Yeah.

[3:29] Maybe he just doesn't handle stress well.

[3:31] Who are bad.

[3:31] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[3:32] I just know that anyone who shouts that Lily Tomlin

[3:34] is instantly on my shit list.

[3:35] No, that's true.

[3:36] There's no reason to do that, ever.

[3:37] Yeah, indeed.

[3:38] Although that video, if you've ever seen it,

[3:40] there is the funny moment where he leaves the room

[3:42] and then walks back in again.

[3:44] Yeah.

[3:45] But anyway, he's...

[3:46] It is much like a scene from the film

Dan McCoy

[3:48] that he is directing, actually.

[3:51] It feels like it.

[3:52] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[3:53] So this was David O. Russell's first film

[3:55] as a director since Joy,

[3:57] a movie that I genuinely did not understand

[3:58] the purpose of and found baffling.

Dan McCoy

[4:01] That's another David O. Russell movie,

[4:03] spoiler alert,

[4:04] that I liked a little bit better

[4:05] than the populist scene, too.

[4:07] That's totally cool.

[4:08] It is absolutely a mess,

[4:09] but I kind of was termed by some of it.

[4:11] And before that was...

[4:12] What did he do before that?

Elliott Kalan

[4:13] American Hustle, I think, was before that.

[4:15] Oh, what a stinker.

[4:15] Which I also did not care for.

[4:17] That one I don't like.

[4:18] Yeah, it's a stinker.

[4:19] But before that was Silver Linings Playbook

[4:20] and The Fighter,

[4:21] both of which I really like.

[4:22] I think those are both really good movies.

[4:23] Yeah.

[4:24] I think The Fighter,

[4:25] it loses a lot of steam

[4:26] when he decides to shoot the climactic fight

[4:28] as if you are watching it on HBO.

[4:30] Yeah.

[4:30] Which is an interesting creative choice

[4:32] to put you at...

[4:33] It's almost Brechtian,

[4:34] the distance that he is putting

[4:36] between you and the characters at that point.

[4:38] But he's a hit-and-miss director,

[4:40] by which I mean I wouldn't be surprised

[4:42] if he hit a miss at some point.

[4:43] Yeah.

[4:44] He seems like a difficult man.

Dan McCoy

[4:46] No, he is definitely,

[4:48] from all reports,

[4:49] not a nice man

[4:50] who may have also done some weird stuff.

[4:53] We won't get into that.

[4:54] We're talking about that movie.

Stuart Wellington

[4:55] And he came to blows with George Clooney

[4:57] on the set of Three Kings.

[4:58] On the set of Three Kings.

[4:59] The Clunes.

Dan McCoy

[5:00] My favorite David O. Russell movie.

Stuart Wellington

[5:02] Yeah, that's fine.

[5:03] That's a totally good choice right there.

[5:05] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[5:06] Yeah.

[5:06] So we won't spend a lot of this episode

[5:08] on the merits or demerits of David O. Russell

[5:11] just because we're here just talking about the movie.

[5:13] And I think we're going to have an interesting debate

[5:15] and discussion about this film, possibly.

[5:17] Because we'll see.

[5:19] This was a very divisive movie

[5:20] in the critical community.

[5:22] I know The New Yorker put it out

[5:23] as one of its 10 best movies of the year.

[5:25] What?

[5:26] And I would not do that.

Dan McCoy

[5:28] I mean, let's not...

[5:29] Spoiler alert.

[5:31] Did they only see nine movies?

[5:32] I think it's going to be clear pretty early on

[5:35] that I will be the defender of the movie

[5:38] more than the others.

[5:40] Like, I basically enjoyed it

[5:41] even though I think there's a lot in it that's a mess.

[5:43] But I would not have put it on a 10 best list for sure.

Elliott Kalan

[5:47] It was...

[5:47] I was amazed.

[5:48] I had to look up Richard Brody's review.

[5:50] And Richard Brody,

[5:51] much like the other New Yorker film reviewer,

[5:54] Anthony Lane,

[5:54] is a very idiosocratic individual.

[5:56] Yeah.

[5:57] Reading his review,

[5:58] everything in this movie that didn't work for me

[6:00] worked for him like gangbusters.

[6:01] He just could not get enough of it.

[6:03] Interesting.

[6:03] So let's talk about this movie, shall we?

[6:05] This kind of screwball, madcap,

[6:07] relatively joke-less,

[6:09] relatively thrill-less spy comedy thriller.

[6:11] Yeah.

[6:12] About American fascism.

[6:14] About American fascism.

[6:16] And that amazingly keeps hinting at the subject of race

[6:19] and then running away from it as quickly as possible.

[6:22] True, true.

[6:22] So let's...

[6:23] It starts with a text on screen.

[6:25] It says a lot of this really happened.

Stuart Wellington

[6:27] Which is such a fucking common piece of shit thing to do.

[6:31] Yeah, and it's so not true.

[6:32] Like every fucking movie these days.

[6:34] These days.

[6:35] But it's such a fucking common thing, trend,

[6:39] is to be like,

[6:40] parts of this happened,

[6:42] but parts didn't happen.

[6:43] It's like,

[6:43] fuck, okay, dog,

[6:45] just leave this part out then.

Dan McCoy

[6:46] Yeah, I mean...

[6:47] Yeah.

[6:47] I would say that in a movie that is more based on reality

[6:51] than this film,

[6:53] I actually appreciate that it's gone that direction

[6:55] because it's like,

[6:56] look, it's admitting up and top,

[6:58] look, this is a movie,

[6:59] some of this is bullshit.

[7:00] But it's inspired by true things.

[7:02] I don't love...

Elliott Kalan

[7:02] As much as I don't love the big short,

[7:04] that they do keep towing that line

[7:06] where they're going,

[7:07] some of this is true,

[7:08] some of this is not.

[7:09] But this...

[7:10] This movie is 95% just totally made up.

Dan McCoy

[7:15] Yeah.

[7:15] It's so loosely inspired by something.

Stuart Wellington

[7:18] Is it just to protect themselves from like...

[7:20] people who like went to see Tar

[7:22] and were mad that that person doesn't actually exist?

Elliott Kalan

[7:25] I think it is to make it sound more important than it is

[7:28] because this movie is kind of like reaching for important,

[7:31] but it's reach exceeds its grasp,

[7:34] you know,

[7:34] as all mankind should, I guess.

[7:37] So we found out it's New York.

[7:39] It's New York in 1933

[7:41] and we're introduced to our most of the time narrator,

[7:44] but not all the time.

[7:45] This is Burt Berenson,

[7:47] played by Christian Bale,

[7:48] and he is a World War I veteran

[7:50] who focuses on making facial prosthetics

[7:54] for disfigured World War I veterans like himself.

[7:56] He has a missing eye with a glass eye

[7:59] and he wears a back brace

[8:00] and he's always getting in trouble

[8:01] for making experimental drugs

[8:03] and testing them on himself.

[8:05] A character quirk

[8:05] which never quite becomes a plot point

[8:07] or a real character trait.

[8:09] Like it just kind of pops up every now and then.

[8:10] I mean, it does justify

Dan McCoy

[8:12] how long the monologue at the end of the movie is

[8:15] because it is the ravings of a stoned man.

[8:18] That's true.

Elliott Kalan

[8:19] And I feel like

[8:20] you see a movie like

[8:22] Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

[8:23] where you're like,

[8:24] this movie feels like it is about characters

[8:25] who are high all the time

[8:27] and the movie is making me feel like that.

[8:29] Whereas this kind of doesn't get it across.

[8:31] But my main problem with Burt Berenson,

[8:33] I don't know if you guys have this issue.

[8:35] His voice and his mannerisms

[8:37] are like,

[8:39] they are so stiffly attempting to be Jewish

[8:42] or New York Jewish

[8:43] that it edges into anti-Semitism.

[8:45] And I was like,

[8:46] is this what Christian Bale

[8:47] thinks Jewish people look and sound like?

[8:49] Like it's ridiculous.

[8:51] And he keeps talking about

[8:51] how he's half Catholic, half Jewish.

[8:53] And I'm like,

[8:53] well, maybe that's why

[8:54] he's such an unconvincing Jewish person.

[8:56] I don't know.

[8:57] Your thoughts as Gentiles.

Dan McCoy

[8:58] As a Gentile,

[9:00] I mean,

[9:00] I guess I wasn't attuned to that.

[9:02] This was the first thing

[9:03] I was going to ask you about.

[9:04] I mean,

[9:06] Audrey said,

[9:08] oh,

[9:08] he's like,

[9:09] it's like Christian Bale Kramer.

[9:11] And that's kind of what it is.

Elliott Kalan

[9:13] He's doing his own like

[9:13] Midge Maisel thing,

[9:14] right?

[9:15] Yeah.

[9:16] I saw it written somewhere

[9:18] described as

[9:19] Columbo by way of Pacino.

[9:21] Oh,

[9:22] okay.

[9:23] Which is like,

[9:24] yeah,

[9:24] I could see that.

[9:25] That makes sense.

[9:26] But it does feel like he is.

[9:27] He's going for New York Jewish

[9:29] and he's not quite hitting it.

[9:30] But he is,

[9:31] it does feel like he's trying for it.

[9:32] Yeah.

[9:33] So he's best friends

[9:34] with a lawyer named Harold Woodman

[9:36] played by John David Washington.

[9:37] This is his war buddy.

[9:38] They met,

[9:39] they were fought together

[9:40] in World War I.

[9:41] And Harold comes to him

[9:43] and says,

[9:43] hey,

[9:43] I need you to perform an autopsy

[9:45] on a man who means a lot to us.

[9:47] General Bill Meekins,

[9:49] the man who is our commanding officer

[9:50] in World War I

[9:51] who will go on to be played

[9:52] by Ed Begley Jr.

[9:53] Now,

Stuart Wellington

[9:54] John David Washington,

[9:56] very handsome,

[9:57] very charismatic and talented,

[9:59] seems to have drawn

[10:00] the short straw

[10:01] for quirky characters

[10:02] in this movie.

[10:03] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[10:03] He is sedate

[10:05] where everyone else is frantic.

[10:07] Well,

[10:07] most other people are frantic.

[10:08] There are a couple,

[10:09] Zoe Saldana is pretty sedate.

[10:11] Margot Robbie is,

[10:13] or Robbie rather,

[10:14] is kind of just left adrift

[10:15] by her character.

[10:16] We'll talk about that

[10:17] when she comes up.

[10:18] I think,

[10:18] well,

Elliott Kalan

[10:19] I think it's this movie

[10:20] and I don't want to keep

[10:21] accusing this movie

[10:22] of things that are unfair,

[10:23] but this movie at times

[10:24] feels like an episode of Seinfeld

[10:25] where all the white people

[10:26] get to be wacky doodle,

[10:27] you know,

[10:28] wackadoodle crazies

[10:28] and all the black people,

[10:30] their job is to like

[10:30] roll their eyes

[10:31] at these wackadoodle

[10:32] crazy white people

[10:33] and the black people

[10:33] don't get to have fun.

[10:34] It's a little bit like that.

[10:35] So,

[10:36] Liz Meekins,

[10:39] the general's daughter,

[10:40] played by Taylor Swift

[10:41] in,

[10:42] I have to say,

[10:42] probably my favorite performance

[10:43] in the film,

[10:44] to be honest,

[10:45] because it felt the most

[10:46] like a real person.

[10:46] I was like,

Dan McCoy

[10:47] you know,

[10:48] shortly before she left

[10:50] the film under shocking.

[10:51] She certainly gets run over

[10:52] by a truck

[10:53] like a real person.

[10:55] But I,

[10:56] yes,

[10:57] right before that happened,

[10:58] I turned to Audrey,

[10:59] I'm like,

[10:59] really good in this?

[11:01] And I was just thinking that

[11:02] and the thing is like,

[11:04] I mean,

[11:04] you know,

[11:04] we're both fans of

[11:06] her music,

[11:08] particularly the last few albums

[11:09] for me,

[11:11] Audrey liked her earlier.

[11:11] You mean you and Audrey,

Elliott Kalan

[11:12] not you and me.

[11:13] Yes.

[11:13] I don't like or dislike.

[11:15] It's just not my type of thing.

Dan McCoy

[11:15] I think she's very good

[11:17] and I,

[11:18] you know,

[11:18] Bumble Arena

[11:19] was no chance

[11:20] to judge her acting ability.

[11:22] So I was glad to see

[11:23] that I thought she put in

[11:24] a good job here.

Elliott Kalan

[11:26] She comes out the best of it.

[11:27] So,

[11:28] Liz Meekins,

[11:29] she suspects

[11:30] her father's death

[11:31] of being foul play.

[11:33] She wants them

[11:33] to perform a secret autopsy

[11:34] they have two hours to do it.

[11:36] So they got to rush that corpse

[11:37] out of that funeral home

[11:38] real fast.

[11:40] And then the,

[11:42] Chris Rock shows up

[11:43] as Milton

[11:44] and he's like a friend of theirs

[11:46] who I guess works for Harold

[11:47] and was also in World War I.

[11:48] And there's never a real reason

[11:49] why Chris Rock is particularly

[11:50] in this movie

[11:51] except to like show up

[11:52] and tell a joke

[11:53] every now and then.

[11:54] And then to get,

[11:55] and to help,

[11:55] and then to help

[11:56] say the moral at the end.

[11:58] And so they rush it out.

[12:00] Bert is like,

[12:00] I don't want to do this.

[12:01] I hate doing autopsies.

[12:02] It's fine

[12:02] because most of the autopsy work

[12:04] is done by Irma St. Clair

[12:06] played by Zoe Saldana.

[12:08] And if it always,

[12:09] already,

[12:09] usually it's Zoe Saldana

[12:11] but she started being credited

[12:12] with a tilde over the end.

[12:13] Oh, okay.

[12:14] So I think that's,

[12:15] her family name is,

[12:16] her father's last name

[12:17] was Saldana I think.

[12:18] So I think she's trying

[12:19] to reclaim her actual.

Stuart Wellington

[12:20] Thank you for explaining

[12:21] because I just thought

[12:22] you put some English on it.

Elliott Kalan

[12:23] Actually some Spanish

[12:25] is what I mean.

[12:28] But I don't know

[12:29] how she pronounces it

[12:29] but for a long time

[12:31] she's been Zoe Saldana

[12:31] but she's credited here

[12:32] as Zoe Saldana.

[12:34] But so,

[12:35] she does most of the work.

[12:37] She's a nurse.

[12:38] They kind of just need

[12:39] Bert's signature on it

[12:40] because he's a doctor

[12:41] but it's implied

[12:42] that his medical license

[12:43] is either on probation

[12:44] or has been suspended.

[12:45] Yeah.

[12:46] So I don't know

[12:46] why his signature

[12:47] would be so good

[12:48] on an autopsy.

[12:48] Anyway.

Dan McCoy

[12:49] He's mostly at this point

[12:50] a legal drug dealer

[12:51] for

[12:52] veterans in pain

[12:54] at this point.

[12:55] Yes.

Elliott Kalan

[12:56] And they've both

[12:57] been unlucky in love.

[12:58] Harold is clearly

[12:59] trying to set

[13:00] Bert and Burma up.

[13:00] Which is like

[13:01] the kind of

Stuart Wellington

[13:01] to a drug dealer

[13:03] like the way

[13:04] that a serial killer

[13:05] who only kills

[13:06] other serial killers

[13:07] is, right?

[13:08] Where it's like

[13:08] oh, it's okay

[13:09] that he does this

[13:10] because he's doing it

[13:11] for good, you know?

[13:13] Yeah, I guess

[13:14] he has to do it

Elliott Kalan

[13:14] for good.

[13:15] It would be okay

[13:15] even if he wasn't

[13:16] a veteran

[13:17] who needed medication.

[13:18] Oh, that part.

[13:19] I was like

Dan McCoy

[13:19] I thought you were

[13:20] arguing in favor

[13:21] of the moral

[13:21] appropriateness

[13:22] of setting him up

[13:23] with Zoe Saldana

[13:25] and I'm like

[13:25] no, that seems fine.

[13:27] I don't understand

[13:27] why we have to

[13:28] justify that

[13:28] with veterans.

[13:29] No, that's totally fine.

Stuart Wellington

[13:30] They clearly have

[13:31] some chemistry

[13:31] but he can't act on it

[13:33] because he's married

[13:34] and still hung up

[13:35] on his wife, right?

[13:36] Yes.

Elliott Kalan

[13:37] And a phrase

[13:39] that comes up

[13:40] a lot in the movie

[13:41] is the idea

[13:41] that Christian Bale

[13:42] followed the wrong

[13:43] God home

[13:43] and there's a lot

[13:45] of very pretentious

[13:46] language like that

[13:47] in the movie.

[13:47] It's a movie that

[13:48] I'm just going to

[13:49] say it right now

[13:49] early on.

[13:50] Watching this movie

[13:51] I was like

[13:51] is this what it feels

[13:53] like when people

[13:53] who don't like

[13:54] Wes Anderson

[13:55] watch a Wes Anderson

[13:56] movie where people

[13:57] talk in like

[13:58] an artificial tone

[13:58] of voice

[13:59] and it's very

[14:00] kind of either

[14:01] wacky or mannered

[14:02] and there's a separation

[14:03] between reality

[14:04] and this

[14:04] and there's a lot

[14:05] of like

[14:05] pretty costumes

[14:06] from the past

[14:07] and stuff like that

[14:08] except David O. Russell's

[14:09] movies are

[14:10] by choice

[14:11] chaotic messes.

[14:12] That's what he prefers

[14:13] to make.

[14:13] Whereas Wes Anderson's

[14:14] are very controlled.

[14:15] So I feel like

[14:16] Wes Anderson for me

[14:16] really works

[14:17] because I'm like

[14:18] I'm never supposed

[14:18] to be in reality.

[14:19] I'm in his reality

[14:20] and he gets to an

[14:21] emotional truth through it.

[14:22] Whereas with this movie

[14:23] it feels like

[14:23] David O. Russell

[14:24] is trying to get

[14:24] to an emotional truth

[14:25] without making a choice

[14:27] of being real or unreal

[14:29] if that makes any sense.

[14:30] You know?

Dan McCoy

[14:31] I see why you feel that way.

[14:33] I thought about this too.

[14:34] He also, you know

[14:35] it's also kind of reminiscent

[14:36] of a lot of people

[14:37] invoke the Coen brothers

[14:38] like this sort of sprawling

[14:40] like capery thing

[14:41] with a bunch of

[14:41] wacky characters

[14:42] and they also

[14:43] you know

[14:44] have their characters

[14:45] speak in heightened dialects

[14:47] all the time

[14:47] to sort of

[14:48] clue you into the fact

[14:50] that perhaps

[14:50] you don't need to take this

[14:51] as existing in our reality.

[14:54] As literal reality.

[14:55] Yeah.

[14:56] And I didn't

[14:56] I think that

[14:57] I imagine that

[14:58] a lot of the people

[14:59] who watch this

[15:00] who liked it less

[15:01] than I did

[15:02] i.e. you Elliot

[15:03] and me

[15:04] maybe

[15:04] Don't forget Steve.

[15:05] But we're talking

[15:06] to Elliot right now.

[15:08] We'll get to you Stuart.

[15:09] Oh shit.

[15:10] You're gonna take your licks.

[15:11] No, no, no.

[15:12] I just

[15:12] a lot of people

[15:13] who didn't like it

[15:13] whether it be the two of you

[15:14] or others

[15:15] I think

[15:15] had this problem

[15:16] where it's like

[15:17] it didn't clue enough

[15:20] into maybe

[15:21] that this reality

[15:22] is not a thing

[15:23] that you need

[15:23] to be taken seriously

[15:24] so

[15:25] the things that are said

[15:27] just seem unreal.

[15:28] You know

[15:29] like they seem like

[15:29] well no one would be like this

[15:31] but I didn't have that issue

[15:33] so I don't know

[15:34] it's just personal.

[15:35] And I think

Elliott Kalan

[15:35] I mean

[15:35] it's one of those things also

[15:37] where I think you're right

[15:38] I think there is part of that

[15:39] that if the movie

[15:40] had chosen to be more artificial

[15:41] or less artificial

[15:42] it might have worked more for me

[15:43] but it doesn't

[15:44] the sensibility is not clear

[15:46] but also

[15:46] if it was funny

[15:48] I wouldn't have cared as much

[15:49] if it was exciting

[15:50] I wouldn't have cared as much

[15:51] the difference between

[15:52] Wes Anderson movies

[15:53] and this is

[15:53] Wes Anderson movies

[15:54] are really funny

[15:54] Coen Brothers movies

[15:55] are really funny

[15:56] and they're exciting

[15:57] because the Coen Brothers

[15:57] are maybe the greatest

[15:58] living filmmakers

[16:00] I would say

[16:00] at least in America

[16:01] Wes Anderson

[16:02] his movies can be hit and miss

[16:03] but I love him overall

[16:04] and I think he's super talented

[16:05] whereas

[16:06] what's weird for David O. Russell

[16:08] is that like

[16:09] for someone who's made

[16:09] so many movies

[16:10] I feel like every time

[16:11] he kind of forgets

[16:12] how a movie works

[16:13] and how to show things visually

[16:15] He likes to slop it up

[16:16] He puts some water

[16:17] on those sticks

Stuart Wellington

[16:18] It does feel like

[16:20] a lot of scenes feel like

[16:21] acting exercises

[16:22] that they're just like

[16:24] yeah let's run with it

[16:25] we'll fix it in post

[16:26] And I think it totally

Dan McCoy

[16:27] And that was one of my

[16:27] Sorry

[16:28] I think it just totally

[16:29] has to do with

[16:30] whether or not you

[16:31] find the characters

[16:32] fun to hang out

[16:34] Yes, I think that's true

[16:36] Sloppy

[16:36] and that's part of

[16:38] what I enjoy about it

[16:39] I just don't mind

[16:41] hanging out with

[16:42] the characters

[16:43] even though some of them

[16:44] are more boring than others

[16:45] But I can also

[16:46] totally get why

[16:47] it doesn't work

[16:47] for people

[16:48] Yeah, I think that makes sense

Elliott Kalan

[16:50] I mean my issue

[16:51] with American Hustle

[16:52] was partly that like

[16:52] the movie just kind of

[16:54] would forget it was a story

[16:55] for a long time

[16:56] and you just watch

[16:56] the characters

[16:57] yelling at each other

[16:58] and it was like

[16:59] I feel like I'm watching

[17:00] a bad improv show right now

[17:01] where everyone's just

[17:02] yelling at each other

[17:03] with accents on

[17:04] and in this one

[17:04] I think it makes sense Dan

[17:06] that it's sloppy

[17:06] but you enjoyed

[17:07] spending time with these characters

[17:08] I felt it was sloppy

[17:09] and I did not like these characters

[17:10] and didn't want to

[17:11] spend time with them

[17:11] and also

[17:12] and the worst thing

[17:13] as we'll get to it

[17:13] when you're watching characters

[17:15] having a beautiful

[17:16] great time

[17:17] and you're not

[17:18] keyed into it

[17:18] it becomes

[17:19] offensive to you

[17:20] It's like

[17:21] there are scenes in this

[17:22] we're getting up to

[17:23] these things

[17:23] well it feels like

[17:25] when you watch the end

[17:26] of SNL

[17:27] and everyone's hugging

[17:28] as if they had

[17:28] a transcendent experience

[17:30] and you're like

[17:30] that was a fucking

[17:31] shitty show

[17:32] like what

[17:32] this makes me madder

[17:34] that you guys are acting

[17:34] like you just

[17:35] pulled off a Tom Stoppard

[17:36] play

[17:37] you know

[17:37] there's something like that

[17:38] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[17:39] like a three pointer

[17:42] at the buzzer

[17:42] and the whole team won

Elliott Kalan

[17:44] yeah exactly

[17:45] so

[17:45] so Liz

[17:46] so they find evidence

[17:47] of foul play

[17:48] that he may have been poisoned

[17:49] Liz Meekins

[17:52] she doesn't show up

[17:53] where they're supposed to meet up

[17:53] but she kind of

[17:54] they find her

[17:55] she's scared of being caught

[17:56] she says her dad saw

[17:57] and knew something

[17:58] that got him in trouble

[17:59] but before she can say

[18:00] what it is

[18:01] a guy just runs up

[18:01] and pushes her in front of a truck

[18:03] and she gets hit by a truck

[18:04] and killed

[18:04] and then the guy

Dan McCoy

[18:06] it's pretty funny

[18:08] it's genuinely shocking

[18:09] to see

[18:09] Taylor Swift

[18:11] just be

[18:11] pushed into the street

[18:13] and a truck ran over

Elliott Kalan

[18:14] and that was a moment

[18:16] that worked for me

[18:16] because I genuinely

[18:17] was not expecting it

[18:18] to happen so fast

[18:18] and this is

[18:20] Timothy Oliphant

[18:21] right

[18:21] in very heavy makeup

[18:22] which I did not know

Dan McCoy

[18:24] until the end credits

[18:25] because

[18:25] he's gross

[18:26] they gross him up

[18:27] they grossify him

[18:28] handsome man

[18:29] and he looks

[18:29] they really buried

Elliott Kalan

[18:30] those diamond cutting

[18:31] cheekbones

[18:32] under heavy putty

[18:33] and he pushes her

[18:34] in front of a truck

[18:35] and then just points

[18:35] at them and goes

[18:36] hey they did it

[18:37] and everyone immediately

[18:38] believes it

[18:39] there is a line

Stuart Wellington

[18:40] later on

[18:40] when they're being

[18:41] questioned by the police

[18:42] where they're like

[18:42] yeah

[18:43] he was able to do it

[18:45] because he's good

[18:46] at being a criminal

[18:48] yeah I guess that's true

[18:49] yeah

Dan McCoy

[18:50] he convinced the crime

[18:51] I mean he controlled

[18:52] the narrative

[18:53] he was the first one

[18:54] to say anything

[18:55] he said it

[18:56] he's pointing at

[18:57] you know

[18:57] in the past

[18:58] I mean

[18:59] well I mean

[18:59] we don't even have to

[19:00] qualify it unfortunately

[19:01] he's pointing at a black man

[19:03] and a crazy looking

[19:06] drug addict

[19:08] I mean Christian Bale

Elliott Kalan

[19:09] throughout does look

[19:10] like a maniac

[19:11] you know

[19:11] but

[19:12] yeah so

Dan McCoy

[19:12] it's an easy crime

[19:14] to pull off

[19:15] perhaps giving the lie

[19:16] that he's good at crime

[19:17] whose eyeball

Stuart Wellington

[19:18] keeps falling off

[19:19] how much money

[19:20] do you think

[19:20] was put into those

[19:21] eyeball effects

[19:22] I think a lot

Elliott Kalan

[19:22] a lot I think so

[19:23] and within moments

[19:25] they are

[19:26] they are defending

[19:26] themselves to the crowd

[19:27] and then suddenly running

[19:28] as a police officer

[19:29] shoots at them

[19:30] and then

[19:31] this is when

[19:32] uh oh

[19:32] they're on the run

[19:33] they might get caught

[19:35] for a murder

[19:36] they didn't commit

[19:37] hey guys

[19:38] weren't you wondering

[19:39] how they became friends

[19:40] let's jump back to 1918

[19:42] because you know what

[19:43] I wasn't wondering

[19:44] I could just take it

[19:46] for granted

[19:46] that they were old war buddies

[19:47] but we have to be introduced

Dan McCoy

[19:49] slow the narrative down

[19:49] a little bit

[19:50] why not

Elliott Kalan

[19:50] but we have to be introduced

[19:51] to the third member

[19:52] of their triumvirate

[19:53] that we don't know about

[19:54] so

[19:54] Burt's in-laws

[19:55] convinced him to enlist

[19:56] in the war

[19:57] and suddenly we're in France

[19:58] General Meekins

[19:59] puts Burt in charge

[20:00] of a group of black soldiers

[20:02] uh

[20:03] who are

[20:03] uh being

[20:05] because the white

[20:06] the white soldiers

[20:06] being racist to them

[20:07] this is also loosely

[20:08] based on truth

[20:09] that uh

[20:10] there was a unit of

[20:11] uh

[20:12] American black soldiers

[20:13] who

[20:14] who are treated

[20:15] as part of the French army

[20:16] because the white soldiers

[20:17] from America

[20:18] would not work with them

[20:19] and so

[20:20] the idea

[20:21] and they keep saying

[20:21] it's a dishonor

[20:22] you have to wear

[20:23] the French uniform

[20:23] in real life

[20:24] they wore an American uniform

[20:25] with a French helmet

[20:26] and some other French stuff

[20:27] but anyway

[20:27] it doesn't matter

[20:28] the point

[20:28] this is more true

[20:29] than some of the other stuff

[20:30] in it

Dan McCoy

[20:30] so you only give it

[20:31] one Pinocchio

Elliott Kalan

[20:32] yeah

[20:33] half a Pinocchio

[20:34] I just give it

[20:36] half Pinocchio's nose

[20:37] yeah

[20:37] it just looks like

[20:38] it's a slightly longer

[20:39] than normal nose

[20:39] yeah

[20:40] a Cyrano nose

[20:41] yes

[20:42] the kind of nose

Stuart Wellington

[20:43] that you probably

[20:43] shouldn't be contouring

Elliott Kalan

[20:45] because it's already noticeable

[20:46] yeah

[20:47] but embrace it

[20:48] yeah embrace it

[20:49] let's call it

[20:50] ultra aqua line

[20:52] now uh

[20:53] and not ultra aqua lung

[20:54] which would be a combination

[20:56] of the movie ultraviolet

[20:57] and the Jethro Tull album

[20:58] aqua lung

[20:58] I think

[20:59] I bet they sync up

[21:02] let's

[21:03] let's

Elliott Kalan

[21:03] try to sync it up

[21:06] and see if

[21:07] is that Shirley

[21:07] Shirley Theron

[21:08] in ultraviolet

[21:09] or am I think

[21:09] or is it

[21:10] or is it

[21:12] wait is that

Stuart Wellington

[21:13] Christian Bale as well

[21:14] ultraviolet

[21:15] no that's equilibrium

[21:16] oh yeah yeah yeah

Elliott Kalan

[21:17] yeah yeah

[21:17] see if it

[21:18] see if it

[21:18] are you thinking

[21:19] it might be

[21:19] Mia Jovovich

[21:20] Mia is

[21:21] because Mia Jovovich

[21:22] is

[21:22] is she resonant evil

[21:24] or is she ultraviolet

[21:25] I can't remember

[21:25] oh no

[21:26] Shirley Theron

[21:27] is Aeon Flux

[21:28] that's right

[21:28] so

[21:29] so who's an ultraviolet

[21:30] it's Mia Jovovich

[21:31] it's Mia

[21:32] whoops

[21:33] we got

[21:34] we just earned us

[21:35] a Pinocchio

Dan McCoy

[21:36] yeah if you do that

[21:37] send us a YouTube link

[21:39] to your mix

[21:40] mashup

[21:41] send us a YouTube link

Elliott Kalan

[21:42] of Mia Jovovich

[21:43] shooting people

[21:43] to locomotive breath

[21:44] and we'll see

[21:45] we'll see how it syncs up

[21:46] so

[21:47] the

[21:48] he puts

[21:49] Bert in charge

[21:50] of these soldiers

[21:51] and Harold is one of them

[21:52] he makes

[21:52] and so is Chris Rock

[21:53] his character Milton

[21:54] and Harold makes a deal

[21:55] we'll keep you safe

[21:56] if you keep us safe

[21:57] which is kind of

[21:58] it feels like that should be

[21:59] the deal between

[21:59] the remaining officer

[22:00] and the

[22:01] sort of army

Dan McCoy

[22:02] thing

[22:03] anyway

Elliott Kalan

[22:04] they must do a bad job

[22:05] because they all get shot up

[22:06] and get sent to a hospital

[22:07] where Margot Robbie

[22:09] is a nurse working there

[22:11] or a medic

[22:11] she's patching them up

[22:12] she gets in trouble

[22:13] because she's taking the metal

[22:15] she removes from their body

[22:16] so that she

[22:17] for reasons she hasn't explained yet

[22:19] she's collecting it

[22:19] and Harold defends her in French

[22:21] and it turns into a mini uprising

[22:22] in the room

[22:23] of all the American soldiers

[22:25] defending her

[22:25] and she reveals

[22:26] she's not actually French

[22:27] she's Valerie Bandenberg

[22:29] an American socialite

[22:30] working in France

[22:31] and suddenly

[22:32] she's VOing

[22:33] about the instant connection

[22:35] she felt with Harold

[22:36] and with Bert

[22:37] and it gets very

[22:38] it's like

[22:39] two people in love

[22:39] is a beautiful thing

[22:40] but when you are standing

[22:41] outside of that love

[22:42] it is

[22:43] sickening

[22:45] well also

[22:45] I will say

[22:46] yeah that's why

Stuart Wellington

[22:47] you're always complaining

[22:47] about polycules

Elliott Kalan

[22:49] unless it

[22:50] no because

[22:51] I mean

[22:52] if this

[22:52] if this had become

[22:53] a polycule

[22:54] I would have found

[22:54] it more interesting

[22:55] than it just being

[22:56] Harold and Val

[22:58] and their friend Bert

[22:58] who hangs around

[22:59] and shares a room

[23:00] with them

[23:00] so I guess

[23:01] it's just closing

[23:02] his ears

[23:02] while they have sex

[23:03] like I don't

[23:03] like if there's no

[23:05] anyway

[23:05] it's not interesting

Dan McCoy

[23:06] it never goes full

[23:07] yeah

[23:07] love triangle

[23:09] or threesome

[23:10] like just

[23:10] yeah

[23:11] yeah

[23:11] happy threesome

[23:13] but

[23:13] I

[23:14] Margot Robbie

[23:16] here

[23:17] well

[23:18] first let's talk about

[23:19] them being in love

[23:20] because I'm

[23:21] unless two actors

[23:23] have like

[23:24] they're both very attractive

[23:25] they're both very attractive

[23:26] but unless two actors

[23:27] have like

[23:27] really strong

[23:29] chemistry together

[23:30] I tend not to

[23:31] think about it that much

[23:33] I just accept

[23:34] in most movies

[23:35] like

[23:35] they'll tell you

[23:36] like

[23:36] oh they're in love

[23:38] sure fine

[23:39] because like

[23:39] I don't know

[23:40] in life

[23:40] when I see my friends

[23:41] who are in love

[23:42] they're not like

[23:42] I'm not like

[23:43] it's electric

[23:43] at every moment

[23:44] between them

[23:44] I'm just like

[23:45] yeah

[23:45] they love each other

[23:46] but this movie

[23:47] maybe I'm wrong

[23:48] I felt like

[23:49] had not that much

[23:51] chemistry between

[23:51] these two

[23:52] very attractive people

[23:53] I agree

Elliott Kalan

[23:53] and the movie

[23:54] is trying very hard

[23:55] to present this as

[23:56] a love for the ages

[23:57] a transcendental love

[23:58] and I felt like

[23:59] they did not have

[24:00] much chemistry

[24:00] so the movie

[24:01] is trying very hard

[24:02] to convince you

[24:03] of something

[24:03] that it's not showing

[24:05] and I feel like

[24:05] one of the great

[24:06] things about movies

[24:07] one of the most

[24:07] powerful things

[24:08] about movies

[24:09] is when

[24:10] they take an emotion

[24:11] a character you're

[24:12] watching

[24:13] who's not real

[24:13] is feeling

[24:14] or real if it's

[24:15] documentary

[24:15] and they make

[24:16] you feel it

[24:17] and the best movies

[24:18] about love

[24:18] they do make you feel

[24:19] not just that these

[24:20] characters in love

[24:21] but you become

[24:22] affected by the

[24:23] penumbra of that love

[24:24] to use supreme court

[24:25] talk

[24:26] that has since been

[24:27] overruled in the

[24:28] Dobbs decision

[24:28] I guess

[24:29] but they make you

[24:31] feel the glow

[24:32] of that love

[24:32] and the movie

[24:34] is trying so hard

[24:35] and Bert keeps

[24:36] talking about

[24:36] how he feels it

[24:36] but as a viewer

[24:37] I know

[24:37] I did not feel it

[24:39] and so it just felt

[24:39] cloying and kind of like

[24:41] yeah

[24:41] not

[24:42] it's like that scene

[24:43] in Garden State

[24:44] where she puts

[24:45] that headphones on

[24:46] and he listens to that song

[24:47] and it's like

[24:48] if you're not keyed

[24:49] into that feeling

[24:50] of that song

[24:50] then that moment

[24:52] is stomach churning

Stuart Wellington

[24:53] are you telling

[24:54] are you telling me

[24:55] that there's a flaw

[24:56] in the movie

[24:57] Garden State

[24:57] Dan's favorite movie

Dan McCoy

[24:59] just the one flaw

[25:01] I do think also

[25:02] one of the problems

[25:03] with their romance

[25:04] is that

[25:04] of the three leads

[25:06] like

[25:06] a lot of energy

[25:07] gets put into

[25:08] characterizing Christian Bale

[25:09] and not so much

[25:10] into these

[25:11] other characters

[25:12] like John David Washington

[25:14] doesn't get a lot

[25:14] I think Margot Robbie

[25:15] gets the worst of it

[25:16] I think that she's

[25:17] a tremendous performer

[25:19] like obviously

[25:19] like movie star

[25:21] like beautiful

[25:21] and charismatic

[25:22] but also like

[25:22] game for like

[25:24] very talented

[25:25] and like

[25:25] yeah

[25:26] she's Barbie

Stuart Wellington

[25:27] for fucking gods

[25:28] yeah

[25:29] but it's amazing

Dan McCoy

[25:29] how much like

[25:30] this movie does

[25:31] even though I liked it

[25:32] it does like

[25:33] really like

[25:34] dampen her spark

[25:35] in particular

[25:36] I feel like

[25:36] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[25:37] well she's not

[25:38] she's not playing

[25:38] a character

[25:39] she's playing like

[25:39] I mean

[25:40] to use an overused phrase

[25:42] credit to

[25:44] Nathan Rabin

[25:45] friend of the show

[25:46] she's playing

[25:47] a manic pixie dream girl

[25:48] like she is

[25:48] she is the manic pixie dream girl

[25:50] who is also

[25:51] the

[25:52] later on as we'll see

[25:54] the like

[25:54] girl with a medical problem

[25:55] which makes her fragile

[25:57] and therefore more beautiful

[25:58] yeah

[25:58] or more

[25:59] gives her more zest

[26:00] for life or whatever

[26:01] and so

[26:01] and her

Dan McCoy

[26:02] her one characteristic

[26:03] is she

[26:04] she is taking

[26:05] these shrapnel pieces

[26:07] for her

[26:08] bizarre artworks

[26:09] that is the only thing

[26:11] she's given

Elliott Kalan

[26:11] let me go take you

[26:13] through this whole scene

[26:14] because this is the scene

[26:15] I feel like

[26:15] if this scene

[26:16] didn't exist in the movie

[26:17] I might have liked

[26:17] the whole movie better

[26:18] is she goes

[26:19] okay I'll tell you two

[26:20] what I use the metal for

[26:22] in exchange for something beautiful

[26:24] so Bert leads them

[26:25] through making up

[26:26] a nonsense song

[26:27] in French

[26:28] made out of nonsense

[26:29] phrases

[26:29] which they all sing together

[26:31] and it's so beautiful to her

[26:32] that she shows

[26:33] she's making

[26:34] kind of art pieces

[26:35] and toys

[26:35] with the shrapnel

[26:36] and as I wrote my notes

[26:38] hoo boy is it twee

[26:39] and we get

[26:40] you know

[26:40] just a montage

[26:41] of her showing off

[26:42] different things

[26:43] where she's like

[26:44] it's just

[26:44] very cutesy

[26:45] and precious

[26:46] and

[26:47] is this the scene

Stuart Wellington

[26:48] that like culminates

[26:49] in like

[26:50] like

[26:51] head on character

[26:52] shots of them

[26:53] and they just say

[26:54] Amsterdam over and over

[26:56] or is that

[26:56] that's the end

[26:56] of the sequence

[26:57] well that happens

Elliott Kalan

[26:58] yeah that's kind of

[27:00] the end of the

[27:00] answer sequence

[27:00] but yeah it's very

[27:01] it's very precious

[27:02] and not based on

[27:03] the novel

[27:04] Push by Sapphire

[27:04] yeah

[27:05] it's precious

[27:06] in a cloying way

[27:07] in a Hummel figure

[27:08] you know

[27:08] this is

Dan McCoy

[27:09] my least favorite

[27:11] part of the movie

[27:12] just slightly below

[27:14] the long

[27:16] explanatory ending

[27:17] which we'll

[27:18] eventually talk about

[27:19] oh boy

Elliott Kalan

[27:19] when they go overboard

[27:21] explaining the most

[27:21] obvious twist

[27:22] in the history

[27:23] of movie

[27:23] like not since

[27:24] Death on the Nile

[27:26] has there been

[27:26] a more obvious

[27:27] villain reveal

Stuart Wellington

[27:28] like wait a minute

[27:29] all the characters

[27:30] we don't like

[27:31] are bad guys

[27:32] and in on the conspiracy

[27:33] okay cool

[27:34] and all the ones

[27:34] who seem pretty nice

[27:35] are good

[27:36] all nice and good

[27:37] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[27:37] yeah

[27:38] so they sneak off

[27:40] to Amsterdam together

[27:41] and this is when

[27:42] it starts

[27:42] this sequence

[27:43] starts off with them

[27:44] meeting up with

[27:44] two of her friends

[27:45] who are clearly spies

[27:47] Mike Myers

[27:47] and Michael Shannon

[27:48] in the role of

[27:50] Paul Canterbury

[27:51] an English spy

[27:51] and Henry Norcos

[27:52] an American spy

[27:53] hold on Stuart

Stuart Wellington

[27:53] yeah yeah

[27:54] my neighbor

[27:55] Michael Shannon

[27:56] yeah

Dan McCoy

[27:56] surely you found

[27:58] something to enjoy

[27:59] in the double act

[28:01] of Mike Myers

[28:02] and Michael Shannon

[28:03] bird watching spies

Stuart Wellington

[28:05] I mean

[28:06] I could have

[28:06] I mean

[28:07] give me more of that

[28:09] please

[28:09] yeah

[28:10] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[28:10] I mean

[28:11] the two of them

[28:12] it gets annoying

[28:13] by the end of it

[28:14] but I like

[28:14] when they first show up

[28:15] the same way

[28:16] that when Michael Myers

[28:16] shows up

[28:17] in Inglourious Bastards

[28:18] I was like

[28:18] yeah

[28:19] Michael Myers

[28:20] shows up

[28:20] when Mike Myers

[28:23] shows up

[28:23] sorry

Stuart Wellington

[28:24] that would actually

[28:26] be really

[28:27] really wild

[28:27] if you think about it

Elliott Kalan

[28:28] when

[28:29] if Brad Pitt's like

[28:31] I want

[28:31] 50 German scalps

[28:32] from each of you

[28:33] and Michael Myers

[28:34] is just like

[28:34] eh

[28:35] not a problem

[28:37] he talks now

Dan McCoy

[28:38] I just really

[28:40] one of the things

[28:41] I enjoyed about this character

[28:41] is like

[28:42] I felt like

[28:42] there was a certain

[28:43] bizarre realism

[28:45] in the way that

[28:46] like they were portrayed

[28:47] as company men

[28:50] they're clearly spies

[28:51] but they're like

[28:52] no no no no

[28:53] we're not spies

[28:54] you know

[28:54] we run

[28:55] we make glass eyes

[28:56] and we're bird watchers

[28:58] and everyone

[28:59] in the room

[29:00] knows that they actually

[29:01] are spies

[29:01] and luckily

[29:02] the movie

[29:03] and luckily

[29:04] the movie

[29:05] assumes we're

Stuart Wellington

[29:06] fucking babies

[29:07] because it actually

[29:08] puts their actual titles

[29:10] in like a little

[29:10] title card

[29:11] underneath them

[29:12] I fucking knew that shit

[29:14] dude

[29:14] you didn't have to

[29:14] show it to me

Elliott Kalan

[29:15] it's amazing

[29:16] how much this movie

[29:17] and I have to assume

[29:18] these are things

[29:19] that were put in afterwards

[29:19] because maybe test audiences

[29:21] were confused

[29:22] because the movie

[29:22] was moving to fast

[29:24] how often the movie

[29:24] underlines

[29:25] incredibly obvious

[29:26] information

[29:27] or just doesn't

[29:28] trust the audience

[29:29] so they

[29:30] they go on

[29:32] about birds

[29:32] they have a bunch

[29:33] of taxidermied birds

[29:34] they're bird watchers

[29:34] and they're like

[29:35] hey we're gonna give

[29:36] Christian Bale

[29:38] we're gonna give you

[29:38] a lifetime supply

[29:39] of glass eyes

[29:40] and in return

[29:40] you're gonna owe us

[29:41] a spy favor

[29:42] at some point

[29:43] because we'll have

[29:45] to go to war again

[29:45] because as Margot Robbie

[29:46] says the dream

[29:47] repeats itself

[29:48] because it forgets itself

[29:49] but this is the good part

Dan McCoy

[29:50] because we assume

[29:52] automatically

[29:52] that you

[29:53] will be involved

[29:55] in some sort of

[29:56] thing that will need

[29:57] your help

[29:58] that's the funny part

[29:59] to me

[29:59] like they can't know

[30:00] that later on

[30:01] he's gonna be

[30:01] embroiled in this

[30:02] conspiracy

Elliott Kalan

[30:03] hey you're

[30:03] you're a one-eyed

[30:04] you're a one-eyed

[30:05] doctor

[30:06] and you're a lawyer

[30:07] I'm gonna need

[30:08] your help

[30:08] at some point

[30:09] in the future

[30:10] to keep America

[30:11] safe for democracy

[30:11] for a joke

[30:12] I'm writing

Dan McCoy

[30:12] about you

[30:14] walking into a bar

[30:15] can I mind

[30:17] your life rights

[30:19] for that

Elliott Kalan

[30:19] the uh

[30:21] so now

[30:21] there's a long

[30:22] sequence of them

[30:22] just dancing

[30:23] and partying

[30:24] in Amsterdam

[30:24] this joyous time

[30:26] in Amsterdam

[30:26] is basically

[30:26] just them

[30:27] in a one room

[30:28] apartment

[30:28] dancing all the time

[30:29] Mike Myers

[30:30] does a sand dance

Stuart Wellington

[30:31] I've seen the dreamers

[30:32] before

[30:32] I know what it's like

Elliott Kalan

[30:33] right

[30:33] I mean said at a

[30:35] different time

[30:35] but yeah pretty much

[30:36] the same thing

[30:36] except the dreamers

[30:38] had the guts

[30:39] to have them all

[30:40] have sex with each other

[30:41] so you know

[30:42] I want to make it clear

[30:43] that uh

Dan McCoy

[30:43] in case listeners

[30:45] heard it too fast

[30:47] Mike Myers

[30:47] did a sand dance

[30:49] and not a fan dance

[30:50] like Uhura

[30:51] in Star Trek 5

[30:52] uh

[30:53] he just dances

[30:55] around on some sand

Elliott Kalan

[30:56] yeah

[30:57] he dances around

[30:58] on some sand

[30:58] while dressed

[30:59] as the guy

[31:00] in You Can't Take It With You

[31:02] who is posing

[31:02] for a drawing

[31:03] where he's like

[31:04] wearing kind of

[31:06] Roman clothes

[31:07] but also

[31:07] modern shoes

[31:09] but anyway

[31:09] um

[31:10] Valerie joins

[31:12] Harold and Bert's

[31:12] friend pact

[31:13] Harold and Valerie

[31:14] on love

[31:15] blah blah blah

[31:15] this goes on

[31:16] for a while

[31:17] it gets very repetitive

[31:17] Bert says

[31:18] I have to go back

[31:19] to New York

[31:19] to be with my wife

[31:20] uh

[31:22] don't go

[31:23] it's life is perfect

[31:24] here

[31:24] and he has to go

[31:25] but when he gets back

[31:26] his father-in-law

[31:26] blacklists him

[31:28] from the hospital

[31:28] work set

[31:29] immediately

[31:29] for working with veterans

[31:30] which is weird

[31:31] yeah

[31:31] which is

[31:32] it's like

[31:33] I could see that

[31:34] maybe happening

[31:34] after like Vietnam

[31:37] but after World War I

[31:38] I mean maybe that happened

[31:39] maybe veterans were so

[31:41] hated after World War I

[31:42] you know

Dan McCoy

[31:43] we missed

[31:44] uh

[31:44] or we

[31:45] I don't remember

[31:46] I was talking about it

[31:47] like a scene

[31:47] a very quick scene

[31:48] in the flashback

[31:49] earlier

[31:49] where

[31:50] um

[31:51] Bert is being sent off

[31:54] to war by

[31:54] you know

[31:55] his in-laws

[31:56] and it seems

[31:57] sort of clear

[31:58] that maybe

[31:58] they'd be happy

[31:59] if he didn't come back

[32:00] like

[32:01] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[32:01] they're portraying it

[32:02] as like

[32:02] this will make your name

[32:03] you'll get respect

[32:04] on Park Avenue

[32:05] or whatever

[32:05] but they kind of

[32:06] don't want him

[32:06] to come back

[32:07] that's true

[32:07] so uh

[32:08] Harold

[32:08] he has to practice

[32:09] medicine in an alleyway

[32:11] he gets a morphine addiction

[32:12] he goes to jail

[32:13] uh

[32:13] Harold wants

[32:14] Valerie

[32:15] because they know

[32:15] she's rich

[32:16] to use her connections

[32:16] to help Bert

[32:17] she doesn't want her family

[32:18] to know where she is

[32:19] and she agrees to help

[32:20] but then she disappears

[32:21] and they never see her again

[32:23] or will they

[32:24] it's a movie

[32:25] now back to 1933

[32:27] they're on the run

[32:27] they go to Bert's wife's apartment

[32:29] and at first

[32:30] she's very cold to them

[32:31] but then

[32:31] she checks his back

[32:32] which is all scarred

[32:33] she talks about how ugly

[32:34] and grotesque it is

[32:35] but it's implied

[32:36] that she's turned on

[32:37] by his wounds

[32:38] and that he's not comfortable

[32:39] with that

[32:39] this is never touched on again

[32:41] no

Dan McCoy

[32:41] they have a very strange relationship

[32:43] which kind of makes it feel

[32:44] weird

[32:45] like real to me

[32:46] but also

[32:47] I'm not quite sure

[32:48] what it is

[32:49] where

[32:50] yeah

[32:50] she seems to be

[32:51] sort of

[32:52] turned on

[32:53] by the fact

[32:54] that he's so

[32:55] broken and injured

[32:57] seeming

[32:57] and he doesn't want

[32:59] to be that

[32:59] but also

[33:00] like

[33:02] she sort of

[33:03] hates him

[33:04] but also seems

[33:05] to have

[33:05] like genuine

[33:06] love for him

[33:08] just not

[33:08] in a way

[33:09] that allows her

[33:10] to behave

[33:10] in a way

[33:11] that he

[33:11] would be happy with

Elliott Kalan

[33:13] I feel like this

[33:14] I feel like she is

[33:15] she's not given

[33:16] so this is

[33:17] this is Beatrice

[33:18] played by Adrian

[33:19] Andrea Riseborough

[33:21] maybe she's bringing

[33:22] some of the

[33:22] feel of possessor

[33:23] with her

[33:24] to this character

[33:25] because this character

[33:26] is definitely

[33:26] more complicated

[33:28] and weirder

[33:29] in a kind of

[33:30] not weird in a like

[33:31] ugh I'm so kooky

[33:32] I make art out of shrapnel

[33:33] but weird in a like

[33:34] it's hard to gauge

[33:36] exactly what's happening

[33:37] within her emotionally

[33:38] at any given point

[33:39] she's succeeding

[33:40] the way a lot of the other actors

[33:42] are not in giving depth

[33:43] to an underwritten character

[33:44] but it doesn't really fit

[33:45] what the movie is doing

[33:46] yes because

Stuart Wellington

[33:46] we're introduced to this

[33:48] we're introduced to this character

[33:49] by other people

[33:50] talking about her

[33:51] and we're

[33:52] so the impression we have

[33:53] is that she is

[33:54] maybe a shrew

[33:55] or shrill

[33:56] and she is not going

[33:57] to let him

[33:58] be himself

[33:59] and that she

[34:00] wants nothing to do with him

[34:02] but then when we're

[34:03] introduced to her

[34:03] we're like

[34:04] who is this weirdo

Dan McCoy

[34:05] yeah and plus

[34:06] ultimately she is

[34:07] very helpful to him

[34:09] even if she's wrong for him

[34:11] yes

[34:11] like so

Elliott Kalan

[34:12] you know I forgot

[34:13] that was her and Mandy

[34:14] too as Mandy

[34:14] she's really good

[34:15] yeah

[34:15] she's good

[34:16] yeah she's really good

[34:18] anyway so

[34:19] the

Stuart Wellington

[34:20] yeah I mean

[34:20] the quality of talent

[34:23] is not the problem

[34:24] of this movie

[34:25] no that's true

[34:25] it's an amazing cast

Elliott Kalan

[34:26] it's an amazing cast

[34:28] that's true

[34:28] so that's a good point

[34:30] so she's like

[34:32] they want her to help

[34:34] it's weird

[34:35] they kind of assume

[34:36] that every person

[34:37] who's connected

[34:38] to rich people

[34:38] just has what they

[34:40] like strings to pull

[34:41] which I guess

[34:41] is probably true

[34:42] but she tells

[34:43] she helps them identify

[34:45] that before Taylor Swift

[34:47] got killed

[34:48] they thought

[34:48] she said Mr. Rose

[34:50] and she goes

[34:50] you mean Mr. Vose

[34:51] Mr. Vose

[34:52] Tim Vose

[34:53] he's a rich person

[34:55] I know him

[34:55] and that's when

[34:57] the cops barge in

[34:58] but it's cops

[34:59] one of them

[34:59] Bert knows

[35:00] and is a regular

[35:01] patient of Bert's

[35:02] because he's also

[35:03] a World War I veteran

[35:03] played by

Stuart Wellington

[35:04] Matias Schoenartz

[35:06] from A Bigger Splash

[35:07] and The Old Guard

[35:08] and the other is

[35:11] what

[35:11] Dickie Maltesanti

[35:12] from Many Saints

[35:14] in New York

Dan McCoy

[35:14] yeah

[35:14] Alessandro Nivola

[35:16] he's really good too

[35:18] as like

[35:18] the doofus-y cop

[35:20] I mean they're both good

[35:21] but

[35:21] yeah they're both good

Elliott Kalan

[35:22] he's very defensive also

[35:23] because he didn't serve

[35:24] and he's very defensive

[35:24] about it

Stuart Wellington

[35:25] they're both good

[35:26] but it also feels like

[35:27] do we need this much

[35:29] do we need this guy

[35:31] to like

[35:31] pick up random shit

[35:32] and break it on accident

[35:33] I loved it

[35:35] I loved that

Dan McCoy

[35:37] I loved her reaction

[35:38] when he broke the thing

[35:39] I mean it's funny

[35:41] I'm just like

Elliott Kalan

[35:42] well come on movie

[35:43] well I did like

[35:45] I did like that

[35:46] that character

[35:47] the way he's portrayed

[35:48] you don't know

[35:49] if he's being threatening

[35:50] or clumsy

[35:50] it's a little bit of both

[35:52] but also that

[35:52] these characters

[35:53] I found them genuinely

[35:54] more funny than some of the others

[35:55] but I think you're right Stuart

[35:56] does the movie need

[35:58] these characters

[35:59] to have as much going on

[36:00] with them

[36:00] when they just need to be

[36:01] two threatening cops

[36:02] that keep coming up

[36:03] and bothering

[36:04] our main characters

[36:05] especially because

[36:06] you're saying they steal focus

[36:07] they steal focus

[36:09] while never really doing

[36:10] much of anything

[36:10] because they're never

[36:11] a genuine threat

[36:12] they always let the heroes

[36:13] go away

Stuart Wellington

[36:14] if this was a role playing game

[36:15] I would be like

[36:16] the dungeon master

[36:16] is putting way too much

[36:17] fucking time

[36:18] into these NPCs

Elliott Kalan

[36:20] it's a dungeon

[36:21] and the dungeon master

[36:23] has put all of his prep

[36:24] into the two guards

[36:25] at the entrance gates

[36:26] who have a hilarious routine

[36:27] between them

[36:28] and then you walk

[36:29] into the dungeon

[36:29] and the monsters are like

[36:30] then there's I guess

[36:31] it's like a dragon

[36:32] blah blah dragon

[36:33] shouldn't you focus

[36:34] more on this

[36:35] I mean I will say

Dan McCoy

[36:35] apropos to that

[36:36] we'll get to the ending

[36:38] but I know that

[36:39] movies are not shot

[36:41] in sequence at all

[36:42] but this movie

[36:43] has this uncanny feeling

[36:45] except for E.T.

[36:45] this movie has the uncanny

[36:47] feeling of a film

[36:48] that they put a lot

[36:50] of energy into

[36:51] at the beginning

[36:52] and then just like

[36:52] ran out of energy

[36:54] as it like went along

[36:55] and then you know

[36:57] like the John Mulaney

[36:58] joke about writing

[36:58] happy birthday

[36:59] like they're like

[37:00] cramming as much

[37:01] as they can

[37:02] into the last 20 minutes

Stuart Wellington

[37:03] sorry I got really

[37:04] distracted

[37:04] Dan's showing a video

[37:05] that's a Christmas special

[37:07] where the guys

[37:08] in Ninja Turtles

[37:09] costumes just showed up

[37:10] with Alan Thicke

[37:11] and he's like

[37:11] performing a song

[37:12] and they're dancing

[37:13] around him

[37:13] it's wild

[37:15] I would say

[37:16] I'm showing a video

Dan McCoy

[37:17] I had a stream on

[37:18] that a friend was doing

[37:20] of old Disney holiday

Elliott Kalan

[37:23] it is unprofessional

[37:25] for you to be running

[37:25] a video arts gallery

[37:27] while you're supposed

[37:28] to be podcasting

[37:29] I don't know about that

[37:32] I think that's being

Stuart Wellington

[37:33] extra professional

Elliott Kalan

[37:34] I know that it's part of

[37:36] part of the Namjoon

[37:37] Pike exhibit

[37:38] that you're putting up

[37:38] is he requested

[37:39] that it only be up

[37:40] while you're podcasting

[37:41] but still

[37:42] I

Dan McCoy

[37:43] no one would have known

[37:45] if Stuart hadn't

[37:46] spilled the beans

[37:47] but clearly he was

[37:49] distracted by it

[37:50] so

[37:50] no I should have known

[37:52] that he's like the dog

[37:53] enough

[37:53] and would not

[37:54] have been able

[37:55] to avoid the siren

[37:57] all the Ninja Turtles

[37:59] dancing

[37:59] and Alan Thicke

[38:01] sorry

[38:02] just like a dog

[38:03] what would I do

[38:04] if I caught him

[38:04] you know

Elliott Kalan

[38:05] so anyway

[38:06] the cops are like

[38:06] you killed Liz

[38:09] give us some more time

[38:09] to clear our name

[38:10] and the cops say

[38:10] okay

[38:11] and this show

[38:12] and next is a moment

[38:13] that I feel

[38:14] talks about the

[38:15] lack of threat

[38:16] and lack of stakes

[38:17] is they go outside

[38:18] and Timothy Oliphant

[38:19] just drives by

[38:20] and yells

[38:21] hey don't tell anybody

[38:22] anything

[38:22] committee of five

[38:23] and then drives off

[38:24] and Bert is like

[38:26] Bert's like

[38:26] why didn't they just

[38:27] kill us

[38:28] yeah movie

[38:28] why didn't he just

[38:29] kill you

[38:30] and why did he yell

[38:31] the name of the bad guys

Dan McCoy

[38:32] who are secret

[38:33] the movie does

[38:34] never adequately

[38:35] answer those questions

[38:37] oh

Elliott Kalan

[38:38] hey

[38:39] he might as well say

[38:40] I'm doing this

[38:40] for a secret committee

[38:41] that's trying to pull off

[38:43] a coup

[38:43] don't tell nobody

[38:44] scouts honor now

[38:46] I mean

[38:46] yeah

Dan McCoy

[38:47] I think that the idea

[38:48] I guess

[38:49] is that

[38:50] killing them

Elliott Kalan

[38:51] he pushed Taylor Swift

[38:52] in front of a truck

[38:53] why not kill the morphine addict

[38:54] and the black guy

[38:55] no one's gonna care

[38:56] it's the 30s

Dan McCoy

[38:57] I yes

[38:57] I know

[38:58] I'm saying that

[38:58] if there's any rationale

[39:00] I can think of

[39:00] it is that

[39:01] killing them

[39:01] draws more attention

[39:02] to the conspiracy

[39:03] but if that's so

[39:04] just let them go

[39:05] let them go

[39:06] and like rave around

[39:07] and take their luck

[39:08] with the police

[39:09] you know

Elliott Kalan

[39:09] so anyway

[39:10] they go to see

[39:11] Mr. Vose

[39:12] they go to his estate

[39:13] they pretend to be

[39:14] charity collectors

[39:15] for an Episcopalian charity

[39:16] Mr. Vose

[39:17] apparently isn't in

[39:18] but his wife

[39:19] played by Libby

[39:20] played by Anya Taylor-Joy

[39:21] is there

[39:22] and I liked

[39:23] Anya Taylor-Joy

[39:23] in this movie too

[39:24] to be honest

[39:24] I feel like

[39:25] I haven't seen

[39:26] too many movies

[39:26] where she gets to

[39:27] not have a mystical side

[39:28] or a strange side

[39:30] but just gets to be

[39:31] kind of like a jerk

[39:31] you know

[39:32] we don't get

[39:33] I feel like

[39:34] I don't get to see

[39:34] too many performances

[39:35] by her

[39:36] where she gets to just be

[39:37] a flat out jerk person

[39:38] you know

Dan McCoy

[39:39] yeah no

[39:40] I think that this movie

[39:41] uses her kind of

[39:42] alien quality well

[39:44] what is this

[39:46] person's deal

[39:47] like

[39:48] they seem

[39:49] to be

Elliott Kalan

[39:50] and by the very end

[39:51] we'll get there

[39:51] there's one moment

[39:52] where she's talking

[39:52] about real energy

[39:53] and talking to

[39:54] beings from another

[39:55] planet

[39:55] that only comes up

[39:57] for a second

[39:58] that's when

[39:58] uh oh

[39:59] Valerie walks in

[40:00] and they all recognize

[40:01] each other

[40:02] because of course

[40:03] why wouldn't they

[40:03] recognize each other

[40:04] it was the most important

[40:05] moment of their lives

[40:06] and Valerie tells them

[40:08] she told Liz

[40:09] to hire them

[40:10] to investigate

[40:11] her father's murder

[40:12] and she's actually

[40:13] not Valerie

[40:14] Bandenberg

[40:15] she's Valerie

[40:16] Vose

[40:17] of New Jersey

[40:18] and Harold is offended

[40:19] that she's been in America

[40:20] for years

[40:21] and never got in touch

[40:21] with them

[40:22] and she tells them

[40:23] that they learn

[40:24] from Anya Taylor-Joy

[40:25] that she has

[40:25] a nerve disorder

[40:26] now somehow

Stuart Wellington

[40:27] she's behaving

[40:27] she's behaving strangely

[40:29] at this point

[40:30] yes

[40:30] she's not behaving

[40:31] like she was

[40:32] back in Amsterdam

Elliott Kalan

[40:33] she's lost her

[40:34] joie de vivre

[40:34] and she's got

[40:35] nausea and vertigo

[40:36] and weakness

[40:37] and so they say

[40:38] she has a nerve disorder

[40:39] uh

[40:40] and uh

[40:41] Libby

[40:41] Anya Taylor-Joy

[40:42] is her sister-in-law

[40:43] and she sends

[40:44] a big thug

[40:44] uh

[40:45] to beat them up

[40:47] and he punches

[40:47] Burt out

[40:48] but then Harold

[40:48] punches the thug out

[40:49] Burt wakes up

[40:50] to meet

[40:51] the guy

[40:51] they came to see

[40:52] Tom Vose

[40:53] played by

[40:54] Rami Malek

[40:55] so you know

[40:55] instantly he's the villain

[40:56] you know instantly

[40:57] he's the bad guy

[40:58] if Rami Malek

[40:59] doesn't have big

[41:00] Freddie Mercury

[41:00] horse teeth in his mouth

[41:01] you know he's the bad guy

[41:02] that's the thing

Dan McCoy

[41:02] you don't

[41:03] you don't cast him

[41:04] in a supporting role

[41:06] to not be the bad guy

[41:07] if he's the lead

Elliott Kalan

[41:08] maybe he's

Dan McCoy

[41:09] then he could be

[41:10] the good guy

[41:10] maybe yeah

[41:11] a lovable weirdo

[41:12] of some kind

[41:12] but as a side character

[41:14] he is the villain

[41:15] yeah he's like

Elliott Kalan

[41:17] Max von Sydow type

[41:18] exactly

[41:19] much like

[41:20] latter day

[41:20] Max von Sydow

[41:21] or latter day

[41:22] uh

[41:23] uh

[41:23] Ed Harris

[41:23] he radiates

[41:25] I'm the villain

[41:26] you know

[41:26] and I'm sure

[41:27] he's a very nice man

[41:28] in real life

[41:29] uh

[41:30] we're

[41:30] we're friendly

[41:31] with people

[41:31] who are friends

[41:32] with him

[41:32] I've never met him

[41:33] and he apparently

[41:33] he's a very nice person

[41:34] but anyway

[41:34] so uh

[41:35] Valerie argues

[41:37] with her sister-in-law

[41:38] everyone's arguing

[41:38] uh

[41:39] and uh

[41:40] this is when

[41:41] Christian Bale

[41:41] is at his most

[41:42] fake Jewishness

[41:43] with the way

[41:44] he's gesturing

[41:44] so stiffly

[41:45] but anyway

[41:46] uh

[41:47] Anya starts blaming

[41:49] Valerie for Liz's death

[41:51] for getting these guys involved

[41:51] anyway

[41:52] Tom says

[41:53] I'd love to help you

[41:53] I can't get personally involved

[41:55] I am just a bird watcher

[41:57] that's what I specialize in

[41:58] I don't like to get involved

[41:59] in this stuff

[41:59] but you know who you can talk to

[42:01] the most decorated marine

[42:02] of World War I

[42:03] General Gil Dillenbeck

[42:05] I

[42:07] it's one of those things

[42:08] I know plot wise

[42:10] why Tom is sending them

[42:11] to go talk to Gil Dillenbeck

[42:12] it's part of the evil plan

[42:13] but

[42:14] movie logic wise

[42:15] I don't know why

[42:16] in that moment

[42:17] that character

[42:18] why

[42:18] I don't know why

[42:18] Harold and Bert

[42:20] are like

[42:20] yeah that makes sense

[42:21] we'll talk to this

[42:22] other general

Dan McCoy

[42:23] no the conspiracy

[42:24] doesn't make any sense

[42:26] no matter how much

[42:27] time they try

[42:29] at the end

[42:29] to put into

[42:30] explaining it

[42:31] because

[42:32] yeah

[42:32] we'll talk about

[42:33] when we get there

[42:34] but there's a point

[42:34] in which

[42:35] uh

[42:36] the movie switches over

[42:37] from like

[42:37] okay our heroes

[42:39] are in danger

[42:40] from the bad guys

[42:42] to

[42:42] for some reason

[42:43] the heroes

[42:43] and the

[42:44] like the bad guys

[42:45] want the heroes

[42:46] to be at the place

[42:47] where they're doing

[42:48] their evil scheme

[42:49] and it never quite

[42:50] makes any sense

[42:51] to me

Elliott Kalan

[42:52] it turns into a trap

[42:54] the bad guy

[42:54] it's I mean

[42:55] everyone in this movie

[42:56] much like the real life

[42:57] conspiracy

[42:59] that it's based on

[42:59] everybody is kind of

[43:00] flat footedly

[43:01] running around

[43:02] stumbling over their own feet

[43:04] even though it's not

[43:06] based on this story

[43:06] I feel like

[43:07] burn after reading

[43:07] gives such a better

[43:08] sense of like

[43:09] people who are

[43:10] think that they are spies

[43:12] or think that they're

[43:13] in a conspiracy

[43:13] and are just

[43:14] bumbling into each other

[43:15] because they don't know

[43:16] what they're doing

[43:17] which is how much

[43:17] of actual history works

[43:18] anyway

[43:19] uh

[43:19] they go

[43:20] General Dylan Beck

[43:21] he was

[43:21] oh this is why

[43:22] he was

[43:22] he was with

[43:23] Meekins at one point

[43:24] during his travels

[43:24] maybe he can tell you

[43:25] why he was poisoned

[43:25] and they watch a newsreel

[43:27] that is just to show us

[43:29] who Dylan Beck is

[43:30] a privately owned newsreel

[43:31] that's right

[43:32] yes

[43:33] you know who he is

[43:33] it's Bobby D

[43:35] that Libby has

[43:35] that Libby has such a crush

[43:37] on General Dylan Beck

[43:38] that they watch this newsreel

[43:39] and Dylan Beck

[43:40] is played by

Dan McCoy

[43:40] present day

[43:41] Robert De Niro

Elliott Kalan

[43:42] present day Robert De Niro

[43:43] who's an old man

[43:44] who is

[43:45] and it's

[43:45] it's similar to the Irishman

[43:47] where it was like

[43:47] here's him in World War II

[43:49] we de-aged him

[43:49] so it only looks like

[43:50] he's in his 50s

[43:51] when he was fighting

[43:51] in World War II

[43:52] like

[43:53] General

[43:53] we're supposed to believe

[43:54] that he was fighting

[43:55] in World War I

[43:55] 15 years ago

[43:56] I guess as a general

[43:57] so maybe

[43:57] but he was already

[43:58] an old man

[43:58] so anyway

[43:59] the whole point

[44:00] of the newsreels to show

[44:01] is to introduce

[44:03] the audience

[44:03] kind of poorly

[44:04] if you're not familiar

[44:05] with it

[44:05] to the bonus army march

[44:07] of the 1920s

[44:10] when the

[44:11] or I guess

[44:12] it was the early 30s

[44:13] maybe

[44:13] I can't remember

[44:14] exactly when it was

[44:14] but there was a period

[44:15] where World War I

[44:16] veterans

[44:16] they were owed

[44:17] a bonus

[44:18] by the government

[44:19] or at least

[44:19] they wanted a bonus

[44:20] by the government

[44:20] because so many of them

[44:21] were living in poverty

[44:22] and they marched

[44:23] on Washington

[44:24] and encamped

[44:25] in Washington

[44:26] and eventually

[44:27] the US Army

[44:27] led by Douglas MacArthur

[44:29] and I think Patton

[44:30] was involved too

[44:31] just came out

[44:32] and forced them out

[44:33] and attacked them

[44:33] and so the idea

[44:35] is that Dylan Beck

[44:35] was the leader

[44:36] of the bonus army march

[44:37] a real thing

[44:37] that actually happened

[44:38] and the newsreel

[44:40] melts partway through

[44:41] and they talk about

[44:41] how they have to get

[44:42] another one

[44:42] and Howard

[44:43] and Valerie

[44:44] in a few moments

[44:45] because of gremlins

[44:46] right

[44:46] gremlins caused that

Dan McCoy

[44:47] it melted

[44:48] because we got

[44:49] all the information

[44:50] we needed

Elliott Kalan

[44:51] yeah basically

Dan McCoy

[44:52] moving along movie

[44:54] I mean that is

[44:55] a good way

Elliott Kalan

[44:56] to do

[44:57] oh so this was in

[44:57] sorry it was in 1932

[44:59] so it was during

[45:00] the depression

[45:01] right after that

[45:01] anyway

[45:02] they were marchers

[45:04] who were demanding

[45:04] more money for their service

[45:05] and did not get it

[45:07] so they

[45:09] Harold and Valerie

[45:10] they have a moment together

[45:11] but they're like

[45:12] oh our love is impossible

[45:13] here

[45:13] da da da

[45:13] and Tom talks to Bert

[45:15] and at this point

[45:16] I was kind of wondering

[45:17] like why is this scene

[45:19] still going on

[45:20] why aren't they

[45:20] why haven't they left

[45:21] Tom tells Bert

[45:22] oh there's

[45:23] there's this unscrupulous

[45:24] British bird watcher

[45:25] who steals eggs

[45:26] and that's the kind of person

[45:28] who probably killed

[45:28] Meekin

[45:30] we know he's talking

[45:31] about Mike Myers' character

[45:32] but he doesn't come out

[45:33] and say it

[45:34] and it never really

[45:35] builds into anything

[45:36] if he's trying to create

[45:37] suspicion in their minds

[45:38] of his enemies

[45:39] the other spies

[45:40] it never really leads to much

[45:42] anyway

[45:42] Valerie is like

[45:44] take me with you

[45:45] on your detective mission

[45:46] but they leave the house

[45:47] without her

[45:47] and it seems pretty clear

[45:49] and as the doctor shows up

[45:50] and it seems very obvious already

[45:52] that the medical treatments

[45:53] she's getting

[45:54] for her disorder

[45:55] are what's actually causing

[45:56] her symptoms

[45:57] this is incredibly obvious

[45:58] or was it as obvious

[45:59] to you guys

[46:00] as it was to me

[46:00] when a sinister doctor

[46:02] comes in and goes

[46:02] oh yeah yeah

[46:03] she has this disorder

[46:04] she never used to have it

[46:05] well she has it now

[46:06] anyway

[46:07] I gotta inject her

[46:08] with some stuff

[46:08] that makes her feel bad

Stuart Wellington

[46:09] yeah

[46:09] yeah it's like

[46:10] the lead

[46:10] like

[46:11] I mean it does make you

Dan McCoy

[46:13] respect the characters

[46:14] all a lot less

[46:15] that none of them

[46:16] seem to realize this

[46:17] until the end of the film

[46:18] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[46:18] because it's not even like

[46:19] the movie is giving you

[46:20] red herrings

[46:20] it's just handing you

[46:21] herrings

[46:22] and saying

[46:23] this isn't a fish

[46:24] I can tell it's a fish

[46:25] it's a herring

[46:26] like it's a regular herring

[46:27] so anyway

[46:28] they try to get in touch

[46:31] with Dylan Beck

[46:32] over I guess

[46:33] the phone or the mail

[46:34] but he turns down

[46:35] Bert's request

[46:36] Harold goes back

[46:37] to see Valerie

[46:38] and they cavort

[46:39] they have like a little date

[46:39] they have a little date

[46:40] yeah and this is when

[46:41] they say Amsterdam

[46:42] at the camera

[46:43] a bunch of times again

[46:44] the police show up

[46:45] to Bert's office

[46:46] and Bert gives the one

[46:47] that gets medicine

[46:48] medicine

[46:48] the cops threaten him

[46:50] with closing his office

[46:50] but this doesn't lead to much

[46:52] Irma the nurse shows up

[46:53] then he like locks himself

Stuart Wellington

[46:54] in his office

[46:55] to meet with Irma

Elliott Kalan

[46:56] yes

[46:56] while they like hide outside

Stuart Wellington

[46:58] and like listen in

Dan McCoy

[46:59] that's all very

[47:00] I mean like I enjoy

[47:01] I enjoy their double act again

[47:04] he's like what's he doing

[47:05] he's listening to music

[47:06] he likes music

[47:07] yeah

[47:07] like they're talking

[47:09] back and forth

[47:09] about the music

[47:09] and it's kind of

[47:11] amusing how deadpan it is

[47:13] but I'm

[47:14] you know as much as

[47:15] you know whatever

[47:17] find happiness

[47:17] with Zoe Saldana

[47:19] but like

[47:19] why aren't you

[47:21] immediately dealing

[47:22] with the fact

[47:22] like you have

[47:23] not the proof

[47:25] but she says like

[47:26] oh I was

[47:27] I was attacked by someone

[47:28] they took the

[47:29] they stole the autopsy notes

[47:31] which they promised

[47:32] my arm is broken

[47:33] it's obvious

[47:34] that I have been

[47:34] in a fight

[47:35] like why not just

[47:35] tell the police

[47:36] that immediately

[47:37] it makes me nervous

[47:39] like I know

[47:39] that they want

[47:40] to have a romantic

[47:40] moment

Elliott Kalan

[47:41] and they do

[47:42] it's a movie

[47:43] where the characters

[47:44] seem to feel no

[47:45] urgency

[47:47] or urgency

[47:49] thank you

[47:49] urgency

[47:50] and there are movies

[47:51] where there's an urgent problem

[47:52] like The Big Lebowski

[47:53] is a movie where

[47:54] the joke of the character

[47:56] is how little urgency

[47:57] he feels at times

[47:58] that he has a mystery

[47:58] on his hand

[47:59] so he goes home

[47:59] and takes a bath

[48:00] and lights a bunch

[48:01] of candles

[48:01] or like in

[48:02] Haruki Murakami novels

[48:04] someone will be searching

[48:05] for a missing person

[48:06] and will go home

[48:06] and make pasta for dinner

[48:07] and fold their laundry

[48:08] and drink a beer

[48:09] and always drink a beer

[48:12] that's true

[48:12] that is the

[48:13] quirky thing about it

[48:14] but here it's like

[48:15] Christian Bale's like

[48:16] we gotta meet this doctor

[48:17] he can clear our name

[48:18] but first

[48:19] I'm gonna go to work

[48:20] and I'm gonna have

[48:21] a regular day at work

[48:22] and when Irma shows up

[48:23] and is like

[48:24] they broke my wrist

[48:25] and they stole my papers

[48:26] he's gonna turn on the radio

[48:27] so they can kiss for a moment

[48:29] it's a

Stuart Wellington

[48:30] the weirdest thing then

[48:32] is that his wife shows up

[48:34] all of a sudden

[48:34] just to interrupt the scene

[48:36] and then she leaves again

Elliott Kalan

[48:37] like it doesn't make any sense to me

[48:40] she shows up

[48:40] just to like remind him

[48:42] that he shouldn't be

[48:43] slaps him

[48:43] as if she knew

[48:45] that Irma was there

[48:47] well she does

[48:47] she did

Dan McCoy

[48:48] the secretary called

[48:51] because

[48:52] oh I forgot about that

[48:53] yeah

[48:53] but it is weird that

[48:55] she's then

[48:56] like she's just there

[48:57] to like dangle

[48:58] the possibility of change

[48:59] in front of his face

[49:00] and then leave

Elliott Kalan

[49:01] it's so funny

[49:01] because it's like

[49:02] the police show up

[49:03] and then he leaves them

[49:04] so that Irma can show up

[49:06] and then he leaves that conversation

[49:07] because Beatrice shows up

[49:08] and now Irma

[49:09] is waiting for Beatrice to finish

[49:10] and the police are waiting

[49:11] for both of them to finish

[49:12] and this could be

[49:13] a really funny moment

[49:14] if there was any sense of like

[49:15] farcical

[49:16] you know urgency

[49:17] yeah

[49:17] and you're talking about

Stuart Wellington

[49:17] you're talking about

[49:18] urgency and stakes

[49:19] and early on the movie

[49:21] it comes up with like

[49:22] an immediate problem

[49:24] we need to have this autopsy

[49:25] done in two hours

[49:26] that didn't matter

[49:28] at all at that point

[49:29] and for me

[49:30] that should have been

[49:30] a clue that the rest

Dan McCoy

[49:32] of the movie

[49:32] is not going to matter

[49:33] yeah

[49:34] because if you introduce

Stuart Wellington

[49:35] a timeline

[49:36] that you multiple times

[49:37] mentioned

[49:38] this has to be done quickly

[49:39] there's no effort

[49:40] to make it seem

[49:41] like they're moving quickly

[49:42] or that it even matters

[49:44] at all

[49:44] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[49:45] I agree

[49:45] and so the veteran

[49:47] he says

[49:48] I'll do you

[49:48] okay I'll let you keep going

[49:50] but you got to get me

[49:51] the contract

[49:51] that Harold signed

[49:53] with Liz Meekin

[49:53] since we wanted

[49:54] the autopsy results

[49:55] and those are missing

[49:55] and then Bert falls down

[49:57] I guess because he takes

[49:58] one of his experimental drugs

[49:59] for a moment

[49:59] Irma and Bert

[50:02] leave the office

[50:03] they're briefly stopped

[50:04] by two old men

[50:05] who sing a song to them

[50:06] because they're rehearsing

[50:07] for this big

[50:08] veterans reunion gala

[50:09] that Bert is organizing

[50:10] with Harold

[50:11] Bert goes to Harold's office

[50:13] and Val is there

[50:14] and apparently

[50:15] they had some misadventure

[50:16] that had violence in it

[50:17] but we don't get to hear

[50:18] about it for a little bit

[50:19] again there's no urgency

[50:20] because Bert's like

[50:22] we gotta go see Meekins

[50:24] we're on it

[50:24] and they drive to the

[50:25] Waldorf Astoria

[50:26] to see Paul Canterbury

[50:27] Mike Myers

[50:28] and Bert's like

[50:29] we gotta go see Meekins

[50:31] movie just fucking figure out

[50:33] what you're doing

[50:33] and Paul gives Bert

[50:36] a new box of glass eyes

[50:37] and a man throws a drink

[50:39] at Bert

[50:39] because his status

[50:42] in the birding community

[50:43] is so lovely

Dan McCoy

[50:44] well he besmirched the name

[50:44] of what was the bird

[50:46] there was a bird

[50:48] that like

[50:48] they're mad at

[50:49] that he besmirched

[50:51] the name of it

[50:51] because he's proved

[50:52] that it's a parasitical bird

[50:55] that will steal

[50:56] other birds' nests

Stuart Wellington

[50:57] the kookoo right

[50:58] yeah

[50:58] and this scene

[51:00] I don't know about you guys

[51:01] was so fucking funny

[51:02] I just lost my shit

[51:03] I had to pause the movie

[51:05] I started slapping my knees

[51:07] so hard

[51:07] I had to call the doctor

Dan McCoy

[51:08] my enjoyment of the movie

[51:10] is only growing

[51:11] by how much it is angered

[51:12] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[51:13] so

[51:14] anyway

[51:15] Paul takes them

[51:16] to an office

[51:17] where Michael Shannon is

[51:18] they both talk cryptically

[51:19] about threats in the world

[51:21] and to England or whatever

[51:21] and Bert doesn't trust them

[51:24] because Tom Vose

[51:25] told them this story

[51:26] about this evil

[51:26] British bird watcher

[51:27] but that dissipates

[51:28] pretty quickly

[51:29] and that's when they

[51:29] give their speech

[51:30] about how the kookoo

[51:31] is a destructive

[51:32] parasitic bird

[51:33] that steals other birds' nests

[51:34] and then destroys the nest

[51:35] and this is supposed to be

[51:36] a metaphor for fascism

[51:38] basically

[51:39] and Val says

[51:40] she and Harold

[51:41] now they finally tell their story

[51:42] that they were at her house

[51:44] and they saw that

[51:45] Timothy Oliphant

[51:46] the man who pushed Liz Meekins

[51:47] in her car

[51:48] was outside their house

[51:49] then left

[51:50] and they decided to follow him

[51:52] and it's such a ridiculous

[51:53] it's like

[51:54] so I guess he was there

[51:55] watching them

[51:56] right?

[51:57] so why did he leave?

[51:58] they left

[51:59] and they followed him

[52:00] to an anonymous building

[52:02] that had a medical clinic in it

[52:04] where they are forced

[52:04] where they are doing

[52:06] forced sterilizations

[52:07] on black people

[52:07] this barely ever comes up again

[52:10] and the medicine all has this

[52:11] vaguely swastika-ish

[52:12] symbol on the bottles

[52:14] and there are signs that say

[52:15] like the Great Nation Society

[52:16] and stuff like that

[52:17] they have a brief fist fight

[52:18] there's a brief gun fight

[52:19] they run away

[52:20] and Harold is like

[52:21] I saw a clinic like that

[52:23] in Texas too

[52:24] oh and you never brought it up

[52:25] until now

[52:25] but

[52:26] there's two things

[52:28] that I find galling about this

[52:29] one is that

[52:30] the forced sterilization

[52:32] of black people

[52:33] is by far the worst thing

[52:34] that is happening in this movie

[52:35] and it barely gets mentioned again

[52:37] two

[52:38] this is a thing that

[52:39] states were doing at this time

[52:40] so the idea that

[52:41] a secret committee

[52:42] is doing this terrible thing

[52:44] when this is a thing

[52:45] that was happening

[52:46] officially

[52:47] it's like the movie is both

[52:48] trying to

[52:49] it's like the movie doesn't

[52:50] it's so

[52:51] just that the movie is so muddled headed

[52:52] in the way it's presenting these things

[52:54] you know

[52:54] which only continues

[52:55] but anyway

[52:56] and I just want to say

Stuart Wellington

[52:58] that forced sterilization

[52:59] of anybody is bad

Elliott Kalan

[53:00] is bad

[53:02] yeah I think we can

[53:02] let's just go

[53:03] yeah in case we need to

[53:04] let's go on the record

[53:05] that that's bad

[53:05] it was bad

[53:06] it was bad

[53:09] Elon Musk

[53:09] oh right

[53:11] well

[53:12] Dan I hate to tell you

[53:13] it's too late

[53:14] he's already got

[53:15] there's already a lot of little musts

[53:16] oh no

[53:16] but uh

[53:16] the uh

[53:17] but it's also that

[53:19] this that we had

[53:20] we got to see

[53:21] so much goofy stuff

[53:23] happening in real time

[53:24] but this moment

[53:25] happened in a flashback

[53:26] is a strange thing

[53:27] and I wonder

[53:28] it's just a very weird way

[53:29] to structure your movie

[53:29] anyway

[53:30] Paul and Henry explain

[53:31] there's a cabal in America

[53:32] that's in league

[53:33] with a German cabal

[53:35] now this is 1933

[53:36] it should just be able to say

[53:38] Nazis

[53:38] especially because Nazis

[53:40] show up later

[53:40] but they say it's a committee

[53:42] called Der Fünf

[53:43] and our heroes go

[53:44] committee of the five

[53:46] they repeat the words

[53:48] as if it's got a secret meaning

[53:50] so many times in this movie

[53:51] each time it's just like

[53:56] yeah man

[53:58] we got it

[53:58] anyway

[53:58] it just

[53:59] this makes me so mad

[54:00] but anyway

[54:00] Dylan Beck

[54:01] apparently to say

[54:02] has also been investigating

[54:03] this committee of the five

[54:04] he

[54:04] they keep trying to get him

[54:06] to join them

[54:06] and he keeps leading them

[54:07] on trying to figure out

[54:08] who they are

[54:08] they gotta get

[54:09] Dylan Beck

[54:10] to speak at their

[54:11] veterans reunion gala

[54:12] and that will draw out

[54:14] the members of the

[54:15] why

[54:17] but that's the plot

[54:18] that's how it works

[54:19] and Valerie's like

[54:21] I've been having these

[54:21] dizzy spells

[54:22] I've diagnosed with epilepsy

[54:24] despite not having seizures

[54:26] before they started

[54:26] giving the medicine

[54:27] and the medicine

[54:28] makes me worse

[54:29] and they go to

[54:30] Dylan Beck's

[54:31] Valerie's feeling very weak

[54:32] Dylan Beck's wife

[54:33] played by Beth Grant

[54:34] in a very short scene

[54:35] I wish she had more time

[54:36] she won't let them in

[54:38] they kind of barely

[54:39] try to convince her

[54:40] and then our three heroes argue

[54:41] and then

[54:41] Mrs. Dylan Beck is like

[54:43] oh

[54:43] the general says

[54:44] you can meet him

[54:45] well then what was the point

[54:46] of all that charade

[54:47] you know

[54:48] if they were barely

[54:49] gonna have to try

[54:50] anyway

[54:51] they go in

[54:52] and there's a guy named

[54:53] McGuire

[54:53] who has a bag of money

[54:54] who shows up

[54:55] once a month

[54:56] to offer Dylan Beck

[54:57] the money

[54:57] to help his committee

[54:59] which is called

[55:00] the committee on the sound dollar

[55:01] but he flubs

[55:02] and says committee

[55:02] of the five

[55:03] he just

[55:04] they don't even have

[55:04] to search for clues

[55:05] he just says

[55:06] well my group

[55:07] the committee of the five

[55:07] I mean committee

[55:08] of the sound dollar

[55:09] yeah he immediately

Dan McCoy

[55:10] shows up while they're

[55:11] you know

[55:11] stacked on the staircase

[55:13] listening in

Elliott Kalan

[55:14] yeah

[55:15] and so Dylan Beck

[55:16] Robert De Niro

[55:16] he says

[55:17] prove your identity

[55:18] to me

[55:18] I met you once

[55:19] and you sang a song

[55:20] for me

[55:20] can you sing it again

[55:21] and they sing it

[55:22] it turns out to be

[55:23] their French nonsense song

[55:24] and he tells them

[55:25] that their friend

[55:27] Bill Meekins

[55:27] was killed

[55:28] because he saw

[55:29] something monstrous

[55:30] and he says

[55:31] that the man downstairs

[55:32] is offering him money

[55:33] to make a speech

[55:34] for these secret

[55:35] conspiracy masters

[55:36] and Bert says

[55:37] you come to our gala

[55:38] and we'll lure out

[55:39] the bad guys

[55:40] and the general

[55:41] is so instantly

[55:42] on their side

[55:43] and says to McGuire

[55:44] do you want me

[55:45] to be your dictator

[55:46] is that it

[55:46] and it's one of those

[55:47] things where it's like

[55:47] it's a secret plot

[55:49] that he already seems

[55:49] to have figured out

[55:50] exactly what it is

[55:51] and he just goes

[55:52] and says it

[55:53] and it's a movie

[55:54] everyone's always like

[55:54] we gotta be careful

[55:55] what we say

[55:56] the committee of five

[55:56] is everywhere

[55:57] and it seems to turn out

[55:58] the committee of five

[55:58] is almost non-existent

[56:00] and they just spout

[56:01] about what they're doing

[56:02] all the time

[56:02] like it's as if

[56:03] in three days of the Condor

[56:05] Robert Redford

[56:05] kept going up to people

[56:06] and being like

[56:06] hey I work for the CIA

[56:08] someone tried to kill me

[56:09] can you help me

[56:10] thank you

[56:10] appreciate it

[56:11] calls up the CIA

[56:12] hey were you the guys

[56:13] who tried to kill me

[56:14] because here's where I am

[56:15] let me give you the address

[56:16] and you can show up

[56:16] and explain it to me

[56:17] that's what this movie

Stuart Wellington

[56:18] again it's like

[56:19] a fucking role playing game

[56:21] where an NPC shows up

[56:23] hey players

[56:23] I need you to do this

[56:24] and then the players

[56:25] are like

[56:25] yeah yeah yeah

[56:26] and talk shit

[56:27] and say something

[56:28] obviously wrong

[56:29] like Robert De Niro

[56:30] being like

[56:30] oh I clearly suspect

[56:32] you guys are bad

[56:33] ha ha ha

[56:33] whatever

[56:34] that's what it's like

[56:35] it's like

[56:35] we gotta move this movie along

[56:37] my character normally

[56:38] would be suspicious

[56:39] of your behavior

[56:40] but I don't have time

[56:41] for this

[56:41] we need to

[56:42] we need the plot

[56:43] to happen

[56:43] this movie's gotta

Elliott Kalan

[56:44] fit into it's tight

[56:45] two hour and 14 minute

[56:47] running time

[56:48] so they set it up

[56:50] Dylan Beck's gonna give

[56:52] this

[56:52] he says I'll give your speech

[56:53] I'll do it at this

[56:54] veterans reunion

[56:54] and McGuire says

[56:56] yeah yeah

[56:56] you can meet the

[56:57] privately there

[56:58] okay

[56:59] and they go to

[57:00] Tom Vose's office

[57:01] where he's got some

[57:01] pictures on the wall

[57:02] that are covered with

[57:03] little napkins

[57:04] or drapes or something

[57:05] they all find that

[57:06] very suspicious

[57:07] at no point do they

[57:08] get up and go over

[57:09] and lift those curtains

[57:10] to see what the pictures are

[57:11] why would they

[57:12] anyway

[57:12] yeah yeah

Stuart Wellington

[57:13] it's fan art

[57:14] of fucking

[57:15] Shrek and Sonic

[57:16] having a baby

[57:17] it's yeah

Elliott Kalan

[57:18] it's all

[57:18] it's all pictures

[57:19] of Dr. Phil

[57:20] as an Eminem

[57:21] marrying Shrek

[57:21] on the set of

[57:23] Supernatural

[57:23] yeah

[57:24] this is horrific

[57:24] we have to stop this

[57:26] yeah

[57:26] so Vose shows up

[57:28] with his wife

[57:29] she is starstruck

[57:29] by the general

[57:30] and Tom says

[57:31] hey why don't we have

[57:32] the reunion be broadcast

[57:33] over the radio

[57:34] so everyone can hear

[57:35] your speech

[57:36] Mr. General Dylan Beck

[57:37] speak from the heart

[57:38] speak about Bill Meekins

[57:39] and Burt explains

[57:40] their plan in voiceover

[57:42] as if we didn't already

[57:43] know what it was

[57:44] he's like

[57:44] so we're gonna set it up

[57:45] so he's gonna talk

[57:46] at the reunion

[57:47] and when the committee

[57:47] of five show up

[57:48] we're gonna reveal

[57:49] who they are

[57:50] no shit dude

[57:51] like I've been watching

[57:52] your movie

[57:52] like

[57:53] and then the police

[57:54] show up and they're like

[57:55] we're gonna help you too

[57:56] the same two police officers

[57:57] who've been chasing

[57:58] this is a point in the movie

Dan McCoy

[57:59] where I like

[58:00] look

[58:00] I'll be frank

[58:01] I've been struggling

[58:02] with like

[58:03] hey Frank

[58:03] nice to meet you

[58:04] I knew you as Dan

[58:05] but

[58:05] yeah

[58:05] you know

[58:06] but you're frank now

[58:08] that's okay

[58:08] I'm frank for the purposes

[58:09] of the next few minutes

[58:11] no I've been dealing with

Elliott Kalan

[58:14] oh that's why

[58:14] your soul album

[58:15] is called

[58:16] temporarily frank

[58:17] temporarily frank

Dan McCoy

[58:18] I've had

[58:19] Jim Woodring's

[58:20] a toothache

[58:21] lately

[58:21] I've had some

Elliott Kalan

[58:22] temporarily frank woodring

[58:23] that must be amazing

[58:24] to see the world

[58:24] through his eyes

[58:25] for a couple hours

Dan McCoy

[58:26] wow

[58:26] anyway

[58:28] let me be honest

[58:29] instead

[58:30] and say

[58:31] well Jim Woodring

[58:31] right

[58:31] anyway

[58:32] that's what I said

[58:32] yeah

[58:32] I've had some

[58:35] gentle work recently

[58:36] I've been having

[58:37] some like

[58:37] lingering pain

[58:39] this was the point

[58:40] that I

[58:41] sort of got up

[58:42] to try and deal

[58:43] with that

[58:44] pain issue

[58:45] and was afraid

[58:46] that I'd missed

[58:47] something

[58:47] but I hadn't

[58:48] really

[58:48] and the reason

[58:50] it's just too bad

Elliott Kalan

[58:50] that you were seeing

[58:51] it in a theater

[58:52] and you couldn't

[58:52] pause it

Dan McCoy

[58:53] yeah yeah

[58:54] well I was still

[58:55] in the room

[58:55] I'm just saying

[58:56] I was paying

[58:56] like a little

[58:57] less attention

[58:58] but

[58:58] just marginally

[58:59] less

[59:00] but the thing

[59:00] was also

[59:01] the moral

[59:02] of the story

[59:02] is I hadn't

[59:03] missed anything

[59:03] the movie

[59:04] just stops

[59:05] making sense

[59:06] for whatever

[59:07] degree it was

[59:08] in the past

[59:09] at this point

[59:10] everyone's wearing

Elliott Kalan

[59:11] giant ass suits

[59:12] and shit

[59:12] everyone's wearing

[59:12] giant ass suits

[59:13] I was gonna say

[59:13] from Dan

[59:14] a movie

[59:14] stop making sense

[59:15] is the highest

[59:16] compliment

[59:16] dancing with lamps

Dan McCoy

[59:18] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[59:19] this must be

[59:20] the place

[59:20] if you wanted

[59:21] to say goodbye

[59:22] he'd be saying

[59:23] bad bye

Dan McCoy

[59:23] but it's suddenly

[59:24] suddenly the movie

[59:25] is like

[59:25] okay

[59:26] hey

[59:27] let me get

[59:28] my point out

[59:29] please

[59:30] please

[59:30] suddenly the movie

[59:31] is like

[59:31] okay

[59:32] the bad guys

[59:33] are like

[59:34] yeah

[59:34] let's get

[59:35] the good guys

[59:36] into our room

[59:38] at the same time

[59:39] we're doing our

[59:40] like

[59:40] kind of

[59:41] seat of our

[59:42] pants scheme

[59:43] that may or

[59:45] may not

[59:45] work

[59:46] like it's all

[59:48] cool that that's

[59:48] happening now

[59:49] and the police

[59:50] are

[59:50] immediately

[59:52] back on the

[59:53] side of the

[59:53] good guys

[59:54] to be like

[59:54] yeah

[59:54] we're also

[59:55] gonna help

[59:55] in this sting

[59:56] that you're

[59:57] planning

[59:57] like

[59:58] you know

[59:59] obviously

[1:00:00] like I said

[1:00:02] I like this movie

[1:00:02] more than the rest of you

[1:00:03] but like

[1:00:04] this is the part

[1:00:04] where I'm like

[1:00:05] it's just really

[1:00:06] hand waving

[1:00:06] so much away

[1:00:07] for the purposes

[1:00:08] of getting everyone

[1:00:09] in place

[1:00:10] for the climax

[1:00:11] and

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:11] yeah

[1:00:12] we're at the gala

[1:00:12] and everybody

[1:00:13] shows up

[1:00:14] right

[1:00:14] like

[1:00:14] every character

[1:00:15] that's ever been alive

[1:00:16] is there

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:17] yes

[1:00:18] everyone who's ever

[1:00:19] existed

Stuart Wellington

[1:00:19] there's like

[1:00:20] the ghost

[1:00:21] of Ed Beagley Jr

[1:00:22] Taylor Swift

[1:00:23] they're all

[1:00:24] in the rafters

Elliott Kalan

[1:00:25] all the ghosts

[1:00:26] are there

[1:00:26] I think

[1:00:27] a better version

[1:00:28] of this

[1:00:30] would have been like

[1:00:31] okay

[1:00:31] we're on a tightrope

[1:00:33] right here

[1:00:34] who's using who

[1:00:35] and who's gonna come out

[1:00:36] this is a dangerous

[1:00:37] situation for both sides

[1:00:38] who's gonna

[1:00:39] whose risk is gonna pay off

[1:00:41] but there's no

[1:00:41] urgency or stakes

[1:00:43] so it doesn't matter

[1:00:43] and we spend so much time

[1:00:45] at the reunion gala

[1:00:45] just watching them dance

[1:00:47] and listening to music

[1:00:48] so

[1:00:49] and the spies

[1:00:50] are just backstage

[1:00:51] just hanging around

[1:00:52] and at the gala

[1:00:53] Dylan Beck

[1:00:54] asks Canterbury

[1:00:55] Norcross

[1:00:55] whose side

[1:00:56] are you on

[1:00:56] and they go

[1:00:57] well you're on

[1:00:57] we're on your side

[1:00:58] which is the most

[1:00:59] suspicious thing

[1:01:00] a spy can tell you

[1:01:01] like

[1:01:01] that there's no

[1:01:02] well of course

[1:01:03] I'm on your side

[1:01:04] oh sure sure

[1:01:04] and the spies

[1:01:05] are very nervous

[1:01:06] about everything

[1:01:06] there's lots of jazz

[1:01:07] dancing

[1:01:08] the veterans

[1:01:08] sing a song

[1:01:09] about peanuts

[1:01:09] with Bert

[1:01:10] they love this

[1:01:11] peanut song

[1:01:11] we've heard them

[1:01:12] sing it a few times

[1:01:12] is this when

[1:01:14] they take the

[1:01:15] hallucinogenic eye drops

Stuart Wellington

[1:01:18] and Anna Taylor

[1:01:19] Joy talks about

[1:01:20] like

[1:01:21] Cthulhu shit

[1:01:22] visitors from

[1:01:23] beyond the stars

Elliott Kalan

[1:01:24] that's shortly

[1:01:25] so Bert's in-laws

[1:01:26] show up

[1:01:27] they're like

[1:01:27] we're proud of you

[1:01:28] we're gonna help you

[1:01:28] get your medical

[1:01:29] license back

[1:01:30] this is so great

[1:01:31] everyone's kind of

[1:01:32] milling around

[1:01:32] for a while

[1:01:33] Tom's wife

[1:01:34] doesn't like that

[1:01:35] Valerie and Harold

[1:01:36] are recording things

[1:01:37] with a film camera

[1:01:38] and Bert is appalled

[1:01:40] when Beatrice

[1:01:41] is just like a social climber

[1:01:42] and he's like

[1:01:43] you know what

[1:01:44] I don't want to

[1:01:44] move back in anymore

[1:01:45] he goes

[1:01:45] I've waited too long

[1:01:47] for the wrong thing

[1:01:48] and Beatrice goes

[1:01:49] I think terrible things

[1:01:50] might happen to you

[1:01:50] and then goes off

[1:01:52] to help her mom

[1:01:53] meet rich people

[1:01:54] there's a

[1:01:55] Fado singer

[1:01:56] singing in Portuguese

[1:01:57] for some reason

[1:01:58] I don't know why

[1:01:59] and then Tom Vose

[1:02:01] he takes Dylan Beck

[1:02:02] to see the committee

[1:02:03] of course our heroes

[1:02:04] are all allowed

[1:02:05] to go with him

[1:02:06] because

[1:02:06] he has this secret

[1:02:08] conspiracy

[1:02:08] sure

[1:02:09] Dylan Beck has a plus three

[1:02:11] to come meet them

[1:02:12] in a secret back room

[1:02:13] and we see the three

Dan McCoy

[1:02:14] evil

[1:02:15] businessmen

[1:02:17] being like

[1:02:18] hello

[1:02:18] we're evil businessmen

[1:02:19] would you like to join us

Stuart Wellington

[1:02:21] being evil

[1:02:21] one is played by

[1:02:22] great character actor

[1:02:23] Leland Orser

[1:02:24] another is played by

[1:02:25] noted shithead

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:26] Chris Noth

[1:02:27] yeah

[1:02:28] that's right

[1:02:30] I didn't even recognize

[1:02:31] Chris Noth

[1:02:31] yeah

[1:02:31] because you assumed

Stuart Wellington

[1:02:32] that he like his character

[1:02:33] had an accident

[1:02:34] on a peloton

Elliott Kalan

[1:02:36] yeah

[1:02:36] I thought he just vaporized

[1:02:38] in that moment

[1:02:38] yeah

[1:02:39] when his character

[1:02:40] died on the show

[1:02:41] he disappeared from reality

[1:02:42] like a double dragon

[1:02:44] bad guy

[1:02:44] that you've just beaten up

[1:02:45] and he just

[1:02:45] goes boop boop boop

[1:02:47] and blinks out

[1:02:47] and becomes food

[1:02:48] anyway

[1:02:48] so

[1:02:49] there's a chemical magnate

[1:02:51] a communications magnate

[1:02:52] and a telecommunications magnate

[1:02:54] and a newspaper magnate

[1:02:55] and they keep calling

[1:02:55] the general

[1:02:56] Gil

[1:02:56] even though he says

[1:02:57] call me the general

[1:02:57] and they're like

[1:02:59] Meekins

[1:02:59] huh

[1:03:00] I don't know who that is

[1:03:00] my friend

[1:03:01] sir

[1:03:01] oh yeah

[1:03:02] general Meekins

[1:03:03] sir

[1:03:03] there's only one general

Stuart Wellington

[1:03:04] that I respect

[1:03:05] and he hangs out

[1:03:06] with Shaq a lot

Elliott Kalan

[1:03:07] he sells me my insurance

[1:03:10] he's CGI

[1:03:10] he's very short

[1:03:11] so

[1:03:12] and they talk about

[1:03:13] how they've had business

[1:03:14] good business in Germany

[1:03:16] under strong leadership

[1:03:17] in Germany

[1:03:17] good business

[1:03:18] and

[1:03:19] it's this weird thing

[1:03:20] where the movie

[1:03:21] is kind of operating

[1:03:22] under the understanding

[1:03:23] that nobody in America

[1:03:24] knows who Hitler is

[1:03:26] which is

[1:03:27] bonkers

[1:03:27] it's

[1:03:28] that he's kind of like

[1:03:29] a secret guy

[1:03:30] that is

[1:03:31] that is operating

[1:03:32] under

[1:03:33] even though

[1:03:34] at this point

[1:03:34] he's already

[1:03:36] the chancellor of Germany

[1:03:37] like

[1:03:37] it's

[1:03:38] you know

[1:03:38] it's

[1:03:38] it's very weird

[1:03:39] how they're

[1:03:40] anyway

[1:03:40] so they're like

[1:03:41] Germany

[1:03:42] wink wink

[1:03:42] nudge nudge

[1:03:43] say no more

[1:03:44] say no more

[1:03:44] when it's also the fact

[1:03:45] that like

[1:03:46] many American businesses

[1:03:47] were still doing business

[1:03:48] with Germany

[1:03:48] at this point

[1:03:49] the movie studios

[1:03:50] were still doing business

[1:03:51] so like

[1:03:52] the idea that

[1:03:53] they must be evil

[1:03:54] they're doing business

[1:03:55] like that was

[1:03:56] generally

[1:03:56] lots of people

[1:03:57] anyway

Stuart Wellington

[1:03:57] and to cement

[1:03:59] our hero

[1:04:00] like our heroes

[1:04:01] part in this

[1:04:01] they are hiding

[1:04:03] in the back

[1:04:03] recording it all

[1:04:05] on a video camera

[1:04:06] which I don't

[1:04:07] a film camera

[1:04:08] which I don't

[1:04:08] yeah

[1:04:09] they're recording

[1:04:11] on their iPhone

[1:04:12] but

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:13] Harold is just

[1:04:14] holding up his phone

[1:04:15] but he's holding it

[1:04:16] sideways

[1:04:16] so it's like

[1:04:17] don't do that

[1:04:17] no

Stuart Wellington

[1:04:18] but

[1:04:18] he's recording it

[1:04:19] but

[1:04:20] but in a way

[1:04:21] like

[1:04:21] I made the

[1:04:22] you know

[1:04:22] I spoke wrong

[1:04:23] but the way

[1:04:24] it's being recorded

[1:04:25] it's just

[1:04:26] it's just

[1:04:27] film

[1:04:27] of these

[1:04:28] of these men

[1:04:29] standing around

[1:04:29] they don't get

[1:04:30] it's not like

[1:04:30] they're getting

[1:04:30] the audio

[1:04:31] like there's no

[1:04:32] they're not

[1:04:33] actually capturing

[1:04:34] any damning

[1:04:35] evidence

[1:04:35] other than

[1:04:35] people standing

[1:04:36] in a circle

Elliott Kalan

[1:04:37] well I guess

[1:04:38] they can prove

[1:04:38] that these three

[1:04:39] guys met

[1:04:40] with General

[1:04:40] Dillenbeck

[1:04:41] but that's not

[1:04:42] much

[1:04:43] that's pretty

[1:04:43] weak tea

[1:04:44] weak sauce

[1:04:45] evidence

[1:04:45] yeah

[1:04:45] and as if

[1:04:47] we

[1:04:47] so in case

[1:04:48] we didn't

[1:04:48] get it

[1:04:48] Harold

[1:04:49] mimes

[1:04:49] that symbol

[1:04:50] that we

[1:04:50] saw on the

[1:04:51] medicine jars

[1:04:52] earlier

[1:04:52] to Bert

[1:04:53] as if we're

[1:04:54] morons

[1:04:54] and like

[1:04:55] and uh

[1:04:56] the magnates

[1:04:57] are like

[1:04:57] hey the general

[1:04:58] would you like

[1:04:58] some expensive

[1:04:59] real estate

[1:05:00] wouldn't that

[1:05:00] be nice

[1:05:01] and it's

[1:05:01] it's so happy

[1:05:02] it's like a

[1:05:03] bunch of

[1:05:03] children

[1:05:03] and his

[1:05:04] reactions

Stuart Wellington

[1:05:05] are always

[1:05:06] negative

[1:05:06] he is giving

[1:05:07] them no ground

[1:05:08] he is like

[1:05:09] I don't like

[1:05:10] you

[1:05:10] you guys

[1:05:11] are idiots

[1:05:11] call me the general

[1:05:12] this plan's

[1:05:13] going off

[1:05:14] perfect

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:14] it's like

[1:05:15] and that

[1:05:16] they're like

[1:05:17] how about

[1:05:17] this

[1:05:18] and he's

[1:05:18] just like

[1:05:18] you're a bunch

[1:05:19] of evil people

[1:05:19] I don't like

[1:05:20] you

[1:05:20] so there's

[1:05:21] this is going

[1:05:21] great

[1:05:21] there's never

Stuart Wellington

[1:05:22] a question

[1:05:22] that he is

[1:05:23] going to like

[1:05:24] do what

[1:05:24] they want

Elliott Kalan

[1:05:25] yes

[1:05:26] uh

[1:05:27] so that's

[1:05:27] when they

[1:05:28] take the

[1:05:28] German

[1:05:28] eye drop

[1:05:29] drugs

[1:05:29] and Anya

[1:05:30] very briefly

[1:05:31] talks about

[1:05:31] how it

[1:05:32] they use

[1:05:32] it at

[1:05:32] the

[1:05:32] Vril

[1:05:33] Society

[1:05:33] to talk

[1:05:34] to

[1:05:34] advanced

[1:05:34] alien

[1:05:34] races

[1:05:35] and like

[1:05:36] that's

[1:05:36] kind of

[1:05:37] that's

[1:05:37] based

[1:05:37] slightly

[1:05:37] in historical

[1:05:38] fact too

[1:05:39] of people

[1:05:39] thinking

[1:05:40] they could

[1:05:40] do

[1:05:40] that

[1:05:40] but it's

[1:05:41] it's

[1:05:41] just

[1:05:41] very funny

[1:05:42] that

[1:05:42] just

[1:05:42] suddenly

[1:05:43] comes up

[1:05:43] out of

[1:05:43] nowhere

[1:05:43] and Libby

[1:05:44] who up to

[1:05:45] this point

[1:05:45] has all

[1:05:45] been all

[1:05:46] about

[1:05:46] keeping up

[1:05:46] appearances

[1:05:47] is now

[1:05:47] like

[1:05:47] oh yeah

[1:05:48] by the

[1:05:48] way

[1:05:48] by the

[1:05:49] way

[1:05:49] I'm

[1:05:49] like

[1:05:50] a Nazi

[1:05:50] supernaturalist

[1:05:52] a Nazi

[1:05:52] occultist

[1:05:53] also

[1:05:53] should I

[1:05:53] mention

[1:05:54] that

[1:05:54] I use

[1:05:54] drugs

[1:05:55] so

[1:05:55] and

[1:05:57] Tom

[1:05:57] and

[1:05:58] Libby

[1:05:58] they

[1:05:58] tell

[1:05:59] the

[1:05:59] general

[1:05:59] don't

[1:05:59] go

[1:05:59] off

[1:06:00] script

[1:06:00] I'm

[1:06:00] going

[1:06:00] to

[1:06:00] give

[1:06:00] you

[1:06:00] some

[1:06:01] more

[1:06:01] money

[1:06:01] and

[1:06:01] a

[1:06:02] walrus

[1:06:02] skin

[1:06:02] bag

[1:06:03] what a

Stuart Wellington

[1:06:04] threat

[1:06:04] too

[1:06:05] like

[1:06:05] this

[1:06:05] weird

[1:06:06] hidden

[1:06:06] threat

[1:06:06] based

[1:06:07] on

[1:06:07] was it

[1:06:08] a bag

[1:06:08] or a

[1:06:08] book

[1:06:09] it

[1:06:09] looked

[1:06:09] like

[1:06:10] maybe

Elliott Kalan

[1:06:10] it's

[1:06:10] a

[1:06:10] folder

[1:06:10] it's

[1:06:10] like

[1:06:10] an

[1:06:11] attache

[1:06:11] case

[1:06:11] you know

[1:06:12] and

[1:06:12] he

[1:06:13] goes

[1:06:13] listen

[1:06:15] if

[1:06:15] you

[1:06:15] don't

[1:06:15] give

[1:06:15] that

[1:06:16] speech

[1:06:16] your

[1:06:16] reputation

[1:06:17] might

[1:06:17] get

[1:06:18] destroyed

[1:06:18] people

[1:06:18] might

[1:06:25] are we

[1:06:27] as the

[1:06:27] audience

[1:06:28] supposed

[1:06:28] to think

[1:06:29] this is

[1:06:29] a

[1:06:29] sincere

[1:06:29] warning

[1:06:30] or

[1:06:30] is

[1:06:30] this

[1:06:31] one

[1:06:31] we're

[1:06:31] supposed

[1:06:31] to be

[1:06:31] like

[1:06:31] oh

[1:06:32] so

[1:06:33] Tom

[1:06:33] the

[1:06:34] evil

[1:06:34] guy

[1:06:34] is

[1:06:34] also

[1:06:35] in

[1:06:35] on

[1:06:35] the

[1:06:35] evil

[1:06:36] plot

[1:06:36] hmm

[1:06:37] anyway

[1:06:38] they say

[1:06:38] don't

[1:06:39] make

[1:06:39] this

[1:06:39] mistake

[1:06:40] like

[1:06:40] Bill

[1:06:40] Meekins

[1:06:40] he

[1:06:41] goes

[1:06:41] out

[1:06:41] but

[1:06:42] he

[1:06:42] makes

[1:06:42] his

[1:06:42] speech

[1:06:43] Bert

[1:06:43] goes

[1:06:44] out

[1:06:44] and

[1:06:44] introduces

[1:06:44] the

[1:06:44] general

[1:06:45] and

[1:06:45] then

[1:06:45] Dillebeck

[1:06:45] comes

[1:06:46] out

[1:06:46] and

[1:06:46] gives

[1:06:46] his

[1:06:46] speech

[1:06:47] all

[1:06:47] about

[1:06:48] how

[1:06:48] Meekins

[1:06:50] was

[1:06:50] great

[1:06:51] and

[1:06:51] he

[1:06:51] was

[1:06:51] killed

[1:06:51] because

[1:06:51] there's

[1:06:52] a

[1:06:52] conspiracy

[1:06:52] and

[1:06:52] blah

[1:06:53] blah

[1:06:53] somehow

[1:06:54] even

[1:06:54] though

[1:06:54] we

[1:06:54] didn't

[1:06:54] see

[1:06:55] this

[1:06:55] in

[1:06:55] any

[1:06:55] previous

[1:06:55] shots

[1:06:56] unless

[1:06:56] I

[1:06:56] forgot

[1:06:56] it

[1:06:57] there

[1:06:57] is

[1:06:58] a

[1:06:58] group

[1:06:58] of

[1:06:58] members

[1:06:58] of

[1:06:58] the

[1:06:59] German

[1:06:59] American

[1:06:59] Bund

[1:07:00] which

[1:07:00] was

[1:07:00] an

[1:07:00] American

[1:07:01] group

[1:07:02] that

[1:07:02] sympathized

[1:07:02] with

[1:07:02] Germany

[1:07:03] and

[1:07:03] dressed

[1:07:03] like

[1:07:03] Nazis

[1:07:04] and

[1:07:04] held

[1:07:04] a

[1:07:05] rally

[1:07:05] later

[1:07:06] in

[1:07:06] history

[1:07:06] at

[1:07:07] Madison

[1:07:07] Square

[1:07:07] Garden

[1:07:07] in

[1:07:07] support

[1:07:08] of

[1:07:08] the

[1:07:08] Nazi

[1:07:08] government

[1:07:08] they're

[1:07:09] there

[1:07:09] in

[1:07:10] full

[1:07:10] uniform

[1:07:11] somehow

[1:07:11] they've

[1:07:11] been

[1:07:11] hidden

[1:07:12] in a

[1:07:12] corner

[1:07:12] up to

[1:07:12] this

[1:07:13] moment

[1:07:13] and

[1:07:13] they're

[1:07:13] shouting

[1:07:14] German

[1:07:14] at

[1:07:14] him

[1:07:14] and

[1:07:15] it's

[1:07:15] like

[1:07:15] hold

[1:07:16] on

[1:07:16] movie

[1:07:16] the movie

[1:07:17] has been

[1:07:17] dancing

[1:07:17] around

[1:07:18] this

[1:07:18] up to

[1:07:18] this

[1:07:18] point

[1:07:18] it's

[1:07:18] like

[1:07:19] the

[1:07:19] movie

[1:07:19] just

[1:07:19] got

[1:07:19] tired

[1:07:19] and

[1:07:20] was

[1:07:20] like

[1:07:20] whatever

[1:07:21] Nazis

[1:07:21] Germany

[1:07:21] here we

[1:07:22] go

[1:07:22] okay

[1:07:22] but Dan

[1:07:23] what were

[1:07:23] you

[1:07:23] gonna

[1:07:23] say

Dan McCoy

[1:07:23] well

[1:07:23] I

[1:07:23] also

[1:07:24] think

[1:07:24] it's

[1:07:24] funny

[1:07:24] that

[1:07:24] De Niro's

[1:07:25] speech

[1:07:25] at this

[1:07:26] point

[1:07:26] is a

[1:07:27] weird

[1:07:27] combination

[1:07:28] of being

[1:07:28] like

[1:07:28] very

[1:07:29] blunt

[1:07:29] and being

[1:07:30] like

[1:07:30] hey

[1:07:30] people

[1:07:31] want

[1:07:32] to

[1:07:33] bribe

[1:07:34] me

[1:07:35] so I

[1:07:35] can

[1:07:35] become

[1:07:35] like

[1:07:36] this

[1:07:36] puppet

[1:07:37] president

[1:07:37] but

[1:07:39] also

[1:07:39] like

[1:07:40] talking

[1:07:40] around

[1:07:41] everything

[1:07:41] in a way

[1:07:42] that like

[1:07:42] I don't

[1:07:43] know

[1:07:43] that all

[1:07:44] of the

[1:07:44] speech

[1:07:44] would make

[1:07:44] sense

[1:07:45] to anyone

[1:07:45] who hadn't

[1:07:46] been watching

[1:07:46] the movie

[1:07:46] up until

[1:07:47] that point

[1:07:47] like the

[1:07:47] people

[1:07:48] in the

[1:07:48] hall

[1:07:48] fair

[1:07:49] anyway

Stuart Wellington

[1:07:50] it

[1:07:50] doesn't

[1:07:50] the whole

[1:07:51] thing

[1:07:51] is that

[1:07:52] Minkins

[1:07:53] was killed

[1:07:53] because

[1:07:54] he witnessed

[1:07:55] like

[1:07:55] Mussolini's

[1:07:56] car

[1:07:56] run over

[1:07:57] a person

[1:07:57] or something

[1:07:58] right

[1:07:58] yeah

[1:07:58] which doesn't

[1:07:59] seem like

[1:08:00] I don't know

Elliott Kalan

[1:08:01] he was

[1:08:02] in a car

[1:08:03] with Mussolini

[1:08:04] and Mussolini's

[1:08:05] car hit a kid

[1:08:06] and kept going

[1:08:07] and that Mussolini

[1:08:07] didn't feel any

[1:08:08] guilt about it

[1:08:09] and at

[1:08:09] remorse

[1:08:10] and that

[1:08:10] was apparently

[1:08:11] the hard

[1:08:11] like it's not

[1:08:12] even that his

[1:08:12] plane flew over

[1:08:13] an island

[1:08:13] where they were

[1:08:14] making a

[1:08:14] fake alien

[1:08:15] that was

[1:08:15] going to end

[1:08:16] World War

[1:08:16] 3

[1:08:17] so of course

[1:08:17] Minkins had

[1:08:18] to be taken

[1:08:18] out

[1:08:18] like it's

[1:08:19] that it's

[1:08:20] it's pretty

[1:08:20] weak

[1:08:21] again

[1:08:21] pretty weak

[1:08:22] sauce

[1:08:22] again this is

[1:08:25] already been

[1:08:26] slaughtering

[1:08:26] people in

[1:08:27] Ethiopia

[1:08:27] you know

[1:08:27] the Italian

[1:08:28] army

[1:08:28] and so it's

[1:08:29] like it's

[1:08:30] one of these

[1:08:30] things where

[1:08:30] it's like

[1:08:30] this seems

[1:08:31] like not

[1:08:32] I thought

[1:08:33] it was going

[1:08:33] to be like

[1:08:33] oh that

[1:08:34] that he

[1:08:35] saw the

[1:08:35] plans that

[1:08:36] Hitler was

[1:08:37] going to

[1:08:37] invade

[1:08:37] Poland

[1:08:38] or something

[1:08:38] like that

[1:08:39] you know

[1:08:39] or he saw

[1:08:39] the plans

[1:08:40] for the

[1:08:40] Holocaust

[1:08:41] or a

[1:08:41] nuclear

[1:08:42] weapon

[1:08:42] but instead

[1:08:43] it's just

[1:08:43] that like

[1:08:43] Mussolini

[1:08:44] who

[1:08:44] that hit

[1:08:45] someone

[1:08:46] with his

[1:08:46] car

[1:08:46] which is

[1:08:47] pretty bad

[1:08:47] it's pretty

[1:08:48] bad

[1:08:48] to hit a

[1:08:48] kid

[1:08:48] it's not

[1:08:49] it's terrible

[1:08:50] it's not the

[1:08:50] worst thing

Dan McCoy

[1:08:51] Mussolini did

[1:08:51] but I wouldn't

[1:08:52] be I would

[1:08:52] not imagine

[1:08:53] that an

[1:08:53] American

[1:08:54] military man

[1:08:56] saying oh

[1:08:57] I saw

[1:08:57] Mussolini

[1:08:59] a fascist

[1:08:59] dictator

[1:09:00] hit a

[1:09:01] child with

[1:09:01] a car

[1:09:02] and then

[1:09:03] just go

[1:09:04] on like

[1:09:04] I don't

[1:09:04] this is not

[1:09:05] the explosive

[1:09:06] piece of

[1:09:07] information

[1:09:07] that's gonna

[1:09:08] what it is

[1:09:09] expected that

[1:09:10] this will do

Elliott Kalan

[1:09:11] no that

[1:09:12] there are all

[1:09:12] these people

[1:09:12] who are like

[1:09:13] you know what

[1:09:14] maybe our

[1:09:14] country does

[1:09:15] need strong

[1:09:15] leadership

[1:09:16] like Italy

[1:09:16] and Germany

[1:09:17] maybe it's

[1:09:17] time to round

[1:09:18] up those

[1:09:18] undesirables

[1:09:19] and get

[1:09:19] them out

[1:09:19] and me

[1:09:20] consistently

[1:09:20] be like

[1:09:20] uh

[1:09:20] he committed

[1:09:21] a hit

[1:09:22] and run

[1:09:22] that they

[1:09:22] would be

[1:09:23] like

[1:09:23] well

[1:09:23] I am

[1:09:25] appalled

[1:09:25] forget what

[1:09:26] I said

[1:09:26] forget my

[1:09:27] fascist

[1:09:28] leanings

[1:09:28] now I

[1:09:29] now I

[1:09:30] realize that

[1:09:30] that the

[1:09:32] end of

[1:09:32] freedom of

[1:09:32] speech

[1:09:33] and the

[1:09:33] rounding up

[1:09:33] of

[1:09:34] dissidents

[1:09:34] and minorities

[1:09:35] to be

[1:09:35] slaughtered

[1:09:36] is a bad

[1:09:36] thing

[1:09:37] because a

[1:09:37] man who

[1:09:38] was involved

[1:09:38] in a hit

[1:09:39] and run

[1:09:39] accident

[1:09:39] certainly

[1:09:40] certainly

[1:09:40] I can't

[1:09:41] trust

[1:09:41] anything

[1:09:41] he would

[1:09:41] do

[1:09:42] you know

[1:09:42] so

[1:09:43] anyway

[1:09:44] again this

[1:09:45] is a

[1:09:45] country where

[1:09:45] Ted Kennedy

[1:09:46] essentially

[1:09:47] killed a

[1:09:47] woman with

[1:09:47] a car

[1:09:48] and went

[1:09:49] on to be

[1:09:49] a senator

[1:09:50] for like

[1:09:50] 30 more

[1:09:51] years

[1:09:51] and that

[1:09:52] was later

[1:09:53] anyway

[1:09:53] but the

[1:09:55] generals like

[1:09:55] the rich are

[1:09:56] trying to

[1:09:56] control the

[1:09:56] country

[1:09:57] and Timothy

[1:09:59] Oliphant

[1:09:59] thank god

[1:09:59] they stopped

[1:10:00] that from

[1:10:00] happening

[1:10:00] yep this

[1:10:03] movie

Dan McCoy

[1:10:03] was the

[1:10:04] stopgap

[1:10:06] the

[1:10:06] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:07] and Timothy

[1:10:08] Oliphant

[1:10:08] he's up in

[1:10:09] the rafters

[1:10:10] and he tries

[1:10:10] to shoot

[1:10:10] Dylan Beck

[1:10:11] and Dylan

[1:10:11] Beck very

[1:10:12] bravely

[1:10:12] just keeps

[1:10:12] giving his

[1:10:13] speech as

[1:10:13] bullets are

[1:10:14] flying around

Stuart Wellington

[1:10:14] yeah he

[1:10:15] is

[1:10:15] he's gonna

[1:10:17] shout those

[1:10:17] he's got

[1:10:18] that regular

[1:10:18] Robert De Niro

[1:10:20] in an interview

[1:10:21] on a late

[1:10:21] night show

[1:10:22] energy

[1:10:22] not being

Dan McCoy

[1:10:23] faced

[1:10:24] just like

[1:10:24] stop that

[1:10:25] stop it

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:26] yeah

[1:10:28] like he's

[1:10:29] talking to

[1:10:30] a dog

[1:10:30] that is

[1:10:31] that is

[1:10:31] like

[1:10:32] not

[1:10:32] hasn't

[1:10:33] started

[1:10:33] peeing

[1:10:33] on the rug

[1:10:33] yet

[1:10:34] but it

[1:10:34] looks like

[1:10:34] it's about

[1:10:35] to

[1:10:35] and Val

[1:10:37] and Harold

[1:10:37] go up

[1:10:38] and fight

[1:10:38] him

[1:10:38] Bert

[1:10:39] accidentally

[1:10:39] gets shot

[1:10:40] in the

[1:10:40] side

[1:10:40] I think

[1:10:40] of the

[1:10:41] leg

[1:10:41] and the

[1:10:42] thug

[1:10:43] yells

[1:10:43] about

[1:10:43] the thug

[1:10:44] is like

[1:10:44] Tom Vose

[1:10:45] is a great

[1:10:45] man

[1:10:45] six

[1:10:46] Emperor

[1:10:46] Ramis

[1:10:46] Tom Vose

[1:10:47] is a great

[1:10:47] man

[1:10:48] it's like

[1:10:48] if you're

[1:10:48] gonna hire

[1:10:49] a conspiratorial

[1:10:50] sniper

[1:10:50] don't have

[1:10:51] him shout

[1:10:51] your name

[1:10:52] in the middle

[1:10:52] of his

Dan McCoy

[1:10:56] writing

[1:10:57] too

Elliott Kalan

[1:10:57] that was

[1:10:58] probably

[1:10:58] a bad

[1:10:58] idea

[1:10:59] I did

[1:10:59] kind of like

[1:10:59] the bit

Stuart Wellington

[1:11:00] where he was

[1:11:00] like

[1:11:00] he was

[1:11:01] like

[1:11:01] up in the

[1:11:01] rafters

[1:11:02] and they're

[1:11:02] like

[1:11:02] fighting with him

[1:11:03] and knock

[1:11:03] the gun

[1:11:04] loose

[1:11:04] and then

[1:11:05] they toss

[1:11:05] him off

[1:11:06] the

[1:11:06] like the

[1:11:08] platform

[1:11:08] he's on

[1:11:08] and he just

[1:11:09] lands on

[1:11:10] the ground

[1:11:11] next to

[1:11:11] the gun

[1:11:12] well you

[1:11:13] just threw

[1:11:14] him to

[1:11:14] his gun

[1:11:15] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[1:11:16] and the

[1:11:17] the

[1:11:17] bunt

[1:11:17] members

[1:11:18] start

[1:11:18] shouting

[1:11:18] so the

[1:11:19] veterans

[1:11:19] start singing

[1:11:20] my country

[1:11:20] tis of the

[1:11:21] anthem

[1:11:21] hey

[1:11:22] Dan

[1:11:22] wasn't it

[1:11:23] just like

[1:11:23] the scene

[1:11:23] in Casablanca

[1:11:24] where the

[1:11:25] Horst Wessel

[1:11:25] song

[1:11:26] and

[1:11:27] and

[1:11:27] the

[1:11:27] Marseille

[1:11:29] yes

[1:11:29] it was like

[1:11:30] that

Dan McCoy

[1:11:30] if it was

[1:11:31] directed

[1:11:31] by

[1:11:32] what's his

[1:11:32] face

[1:11:33] from

[1:11:33] City of

[1:11:33] Lost

[1:11:34] Children

[1:11:34] and

[1:11:34] sort of

[1:11:35] sped up

[1:11:36] at twice

[1:11:37] speed

[1:11:37] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[1:11:38] it's

[1:11:39] it just

[1:11:39] and it's

[1:11:40] also one of

[1:11:40] things where

[1:11:40] and this

[1:11:40] is again

[1:11:42] the

[1:11:43] German

[1:11:43] American

[1:11:44] Bund

[1:11:44] members

[1:11:44] were not

[1:11:44] saying

[1:11:45] we should

[1:11:46] be

[1:11:46] Germany

[1:11:46] they were

[1:11:46] saying

[1:11:46] Germany

[1:11:47] and

[1:11:47] America

[1:11:47] should be

[1:11:48] should be

[1:11:49] an alliance

[1:11:49] together

[1:11:49] like they

[1:11:50] consider

[1:11:50] themselves

[1:11:50] Americans

[1:11:51] as much

[1:11:51] as Germans

[1:11:52] so like

[1:11:52] there's

[1:11:52] a

[1:11:53] it's

[1:11:53] letting

[1:11:54] those

[1:11:54] it's

[1:11:54] letting

[1:11:54] America

[1:11:55] off the

[1:11:55] hook

[1:11:55] I feel

[1:11:56] like

[1:11:56] for

[1:11:56] for the

[1:11:57] movie

[1:11:57] to just

[1:11:57] be

[1:11:57] like

[1:11:58] they're

[1:11:58] Germans

[1:11:58] they're

[1:11:59] German

[1:11:59] spies

[1:11:59] whereas

[1:12:00] there's

[1:12:00] a big

[1:12:00] there's

[1:12:01] a big

[1:12:01] picture

[1:12:01] of George

[1:12:02] Washington

[1:12:02] behind

[1:12:03] on the

[1:12:03] stage

[1:12:04] of the

[1:12:04] and the

[1:12:05] reason

[1:12:05] for that

[1:12:05] is

[1:12:05] because

[1:12:05] at the

[1:12:06] German

[1:12:06] Bund

[1:12:06] rally

[1:12:07] there was

[1:12:07] a huge

[1:12:07] picture

[1:12:07] of George

[1:12:08] Washington

[1:12:08] on the

[1:12:08] stage

[1:12:08] like

[1:12:09] they

[1:12:09] anyway

[1:12:09] it's

[1:12:10] all like

Dan McCoy

[1:12:10] I definitely

[1:12:11] saw a critique

[1:12:12] of that

[1:12:12] when I was

[1:12:13] reading reviews

[1:12:13] where they're

[1:12:14] like

[1:12:14] there's no

[1:12:15] need

[1:12:15] as long as

[1:12:16] you're making

[1:12:16] up history

[1:12:17] need to be

[1:12:18] like

[1:12:18] there were

[1:12:19] like

[1:12:19] literal

[1:12:20] Nazis

[1:12:20] here

[1:12:21] like

[1:12:21] there was

[1:12:22] a

[1:12:22] American

[1:12:23] fascist

[1:12:24] movement

[1:12:24] that

[1:12:24] could have

[1:12:25] just been

[1:12:26] what this

[1:12:26] was about

[1:12:27] but

[1:12:27] well

Elliott Kalan

[1:12:27] it's

[1:12:28] because

[1:12:28] you know

[1:12:29] this is a

[1:12:29] movie

[1:12:29] that's

[1:12:30] trying to

[1:12:30] I think

[1:12:31] it has

[1:12:32] a message

[1:12:32] in it

[1:12:33] about

[1:12:33] freedom

[1:12:33] and kindness

[1:12:34] or whatever

[1:12:34] but it's

[1:12:35] a really

[1:12:35] black and

[1:12:36] white movie

[1:12:36] on a

[1:12:37] not black

[1:12:37] and white

[1:12:37] topic

[1:12:38] that

[1:12:38] everyone

[1:12:39] in the

[1:12:39] movie

[1:12:39] like

[1:12:40] you were

[1:12:40] saying

[1:12:40] earlier

[1:12:40] everyone

[1:12:41] who's

[1:12:41] nice

[1:12:41] and who

[1:12:42] we like

[1:12:42] is a

[1:12:42] good

[1:12:43] guy

[1:12:43] and

[1:12:43] everyone

[1:12:44] who's

[1:12:44] mean

[1:12:44] is a

[1:12:45] bad

[1:12:45] guy

[1:12:45] and

[1:12:46] there's

[1:12:46] no

[1:12:47] getting

[1:12:48] into

[1:12:48] the

[1:12:48] fact

[1:12:48] that

[1:12:49] there

[1:12:49] were

[1:12:49] a lot

[1:12:50] of

[1:12:50] American

[1:12:50] Americans

[1:12:51] who felt

[1:12:51] like

[1:12:51] patriots

[1:12:52] who

[1:12:52] weren't

[1:12:53] just

[1:12:53] I want

[1:12:54] to take

[1:12:54] over

[1:12:54] the

[1:12:54] country

[1:12:54] but

[1:12:55] we're

[1:12:55] like

[1:12:55] yeah

[1:12:55] I want

[1:12:55] someone

[1:12:55] like

[1:12:56] Hitler

[1:12:56] in

[1:12:56] charge

[1:12:56] that

[1:12:56] American

[1:12:57] history

[1:12:58] is

[1:12:58] much

[1:12:58] messier

[1:12:59] than

[1:12:59] that

[1:12:59] and

[1:12:59] I

[1:12:59] feel

[1:12:59] like

[1:13:00] it's

[1:13:00] the

[1:13:00] kind

[1:13:00] of

[1:13:00] thing

[1:13:00] you

[1:13:00] can

[1:13:00] get away

[1:13:01] with

[1:13:01] in a

[1:13:01] movie

[1:13:02] in the

[1:13:02] 40s

[1:13:02] where you're

[1:13:03] trying to

[1:13:03] rally

[1:13:04] people

[1:13:04] against

[1:13:04] fascism

[1:13:05] to be

[1:13:05] like

[1:13:05] hey

[1:13:06] hey

[1:13:06] if you're

[1:13:06] an

[1:13:06] American

[1:13:06] you

[1:13:07] don't

[1:13:07] like

[1:13:07] fascism

[1:13:07] but

[1:13:08] if you're

[1:13:08] making

[1:13:09] a movie

[1:13:09] now

[1:13:09] about

[1:13:09] that

[1:13:09] time

[1:13:10] why

[1:13:11] do

[1:13:11] it

[1:13:11] so

[1:13:11] cut

[1:13:11] and

[1:13:11] dry

[1:13:12] especially

[1:13:12] if

[1:13:12] the

[1:13:12] whole

[1:13:13] point

[1:13:13] of

[1:13:13] your

[1:13:13] movie

[1:13:13] is

[1:13:14] kind

[1:13:14] of

[1:13:14] sloppy

[1:13:14] chaos

[1:13:15] well

[1:13:15] also

[1:13:16] especially

[1:13:16] if

[1:13:16] the

[1:13:16] whole

[1:13:16] point

[1:13:17] of

[1:13:17] your

[1:13:17] movie

[1:13:17] is

Dan McCoy

[1:13:17] the

[1:13:18] fact

[1:13:18] that

[1:13:18] there

[1:13:18] is

[1:13:19] again

[1:13:19] a

[1:13:20] rising

[1:13:20] American

[1:13:20] fascist

[1:13:21] movement

[1:13:21] and

[1:13:22] so

[1:13:22] like

[1:13:23] that's

[1:13:23] obviously

[1:13:24] why

[1:13:24] he

[1:13:25] felt

[1:13:25] like

[1:13:25] he

[1:13:25] needed

[1:13:25] to

[1:13:25] make

[1:13:26] this

[1:13:26] movie

[1:13:26] at

[1:13:26] this

[1:13:26] time

[1:13:27] so

[1:13:27] why

[1:13:27] cut

[1:13:28] the

[1:13:28] strength

[1:13:28] of it

Elliott Kalan

[1:13:28] yes

[1:13:30] exactly

[1:13:30] why

[1:13:30] make

[1:13:31] it

[1:13:31] less

[1:13:31] relevant

[1:13:31] in

[1:13:31] that

[1:13:32] way

[1:13:32] anyway

[1:13:33] at

[1:13:33] this

[1:13:33] point

[1:13:34] Bert

[1:13:34] is

[1:13:34] tripping

[1:13:35] pretty

[1:13:35] hard

[1:13:35] from

[1:13:36] those

[1:13:36] eyedrops

[1:13:36] and

[1:13:37] Tom

[1:13:38] is

[1:13:38] like

[1:13:39] yes

[1:13:39] I

[1:13:39] was

[1:13:40] behind

[1:13:40] it

[1:13:40] and

[1:13:41] the

[1:13:41] spies

[1:13:41] are

[1:13:42] like

[1:13:42] and

[1:13:42] Tom

[1:13:42] has

[1:13:42] been

[1:13:43] messing

[1:13:43] with

[1:13:43] Valerie's

[1:13:44] medication

[1:13:44] to

[1:13:45] control

[1:13:45] her

[1:13:45] recklessness

[1:13:45] and

[1:13:46] Tom

[1:13:46] is

[1:13:46] like

[1:13:46] look

[1:13:47] I'm

[1:13:47] a

[1:13:47] racist

[1:13:48] and

[1:13:48] that's

[1:13:49] when

[1:13:49] Bert

[1:13:51] is

[1:13:51] like

[1:13:52] and

[1:13:53] Bert

[1:13:54] in

[1:13:54] voiceover

[1:13:55] is

[1:13:55] like

[1:13:55] you

[1:13:55] know

[1:13:55] whose

[1:13:55] pictures

[1:13:56] he

[1:13:56] had

[1:13:56] in

[1:13:56] his

[1:13:56] office

[1:13:57] pictures

[1:13:57] of

[1:13:58] Adolf

[1:13:58] Hitler

[1:13:58] and

[1:13:58] Goebbels

[1:13:59] and

[1:13:59] he

[1:13:59] has

[1:13:59] this

[1:13:59] line

[1:14:00] which

[1:14:00] bugged

[1:14:00] me

[1:14:00] so much

[1:14:00] most

[1:14:01] people

[1:14:01] didn't

[1:14:01] even

[1:14:02] know

[1:14:02] who

[1:14:02] that

[1:14:02] was

[1:14:02] yet

[1:14:03] which

[1:14:03] is

[1:14:03] bonkers

[1:14:04] the idea

[1:14:05] that

[1:14:05] like

[1:14:05] Tom

[1:14:06] was

[1:14:06] an

[1:14:06] early

[1:14:06] adopter

[1:14:07] of

[1:14:07] Hitler

[1:14:07] in

[1:14:07] 1933

[1:14:08] and

[1:14:09] that

[1:14:09] most

[1:14:09] Americans

[1:14:09] Hitler

[1:14:10] was

[1:14:10] still

[1:14:10] like

[1:14:10] an

[1:14:10] underground

[1:14:11] figure

[1:14:11] that

[1:14:11] they

[1:14:11] weren't

[1:14:12] familiar

[1:14:12] with

[1:14:12] when

[1:14:12] again

[1:14:12] he

[1:14:13] was

[1:14:13] the

[1:14:13] chancellor

[1:14:13] of

[1:14:13] Germany

[1:14:14] he'd

[1:14:14] been

[1:14:14] in

[1:14:14] the

[1:14:14] news

[1:14:15] for

[1:14:15] years

[1:14:16] at

[1:14:16] that

[1:14:16] point

[1:14:16] he was

[1:14:17] the author

[1:14:18] of a

[1:14:18] best

[1:14:18] selling

[1:14:18] book

Dan McCoy

[1:14:19] yes

[1:14:20] at

[1:14:21] this

[1:14:21] point

[1:14:21] in

[1:14:21] the

[1:14:21] movie

[1:14:22] we're

[1:14:22] into

[1:14:23] Christian

[1:14:25] Bale

[1:14:26] of course

[1:14:26] tripping

[1:14:27] balls

[1:14:27] off

[1:14:28] those

[1:14:28] eye

[1:14:28] drops

[1:14:29] goes

[1:14:30] on

[1:14:30] an

[1:14:31] extended

[1:14:31] voiceover

[1:14:32] explaining

[1:14:34] about the

[1:14:35] movie

[1:14:35] that we've

[1:14:35] already

[1:14:35] seen

[1:14:36] including

[1:14:37] like

[1:14:37] my

[1:14:37] favorite

[1:14:37] part

[1:14:38] in

[1:14:38] it

[1:14:40] was

[1:14:40] like

[1:14:41] you know

[1:14:41] honestly

[1:14:42] because

[1:14:43] I understand

[1:14:44] why this

[1:14:44] was in

[1:14:44] there

[1:14:45] because

[1:14:45] I was

[1:14:45] like

[1:14:46] why

[1:14:46] are

[1:14:46] the

[1:14:46] bad

[1:14:47] guys

[1:14:47] wanting

[1:14:48] these

[1:14:48] people

[1:14:48] to

[1:14:49] come

[1:14:49] to

[1:14:49] their

[1:14:50] rally

[1:14:50] like

[1:14:50] that

[1:14:51] seems

[1:14:51] weird

[1:14:52] since

[1:14:52] they were

[1:14:52] just

[1:14:52] framing

[1:14:53] them

[1:14:53] moments

[1:14:53] before

[1:14:54] like

[1:14:55] there's

[1:14:55] a part

[1:14:55] where

[1:14:56] like

[1:14:56] they

[1:14:56] show

[1:14:56] Rami Malek

[1:14:57] and be

[1:14:57] like

[1:14:57] and he

[1:14:58] wanted

[1:14:59] us

[1:14:59] Tom

[1:14:59] wanted

[1:14:59] us

[1:15:00] there

[1:15:00] because

[1:15:00] we

[1:15:01] were

[1:15:01] his

[1:15:01] route

[1:15:02] to

[1:15:02] Robert

[1:15:02] De Niro

[1:15:03] who

[1:15:03] he

[1:15:03] wanted

[1:15:04] and

[1:15:04] then

[1:15:05] like

[1:15:05] Robert

[1:15:06] De Niro

[1:15:06] literally

[1:15:07] like

[1:15:07] says

[1:15:07] the same

[1:15:08] thing

[1:15:08] over

[1:15:08] again

[1:15:09] he's

[1:15:09] like

[1:15:09] you

[1:15:09] wanted

[1:15:09] me

[1:15:10] here

[1:15:10] why

[1:15:12] did

[1:15:13] you

[1:15:13] double

[1:15:13] up

[1:15:13] on

[1:15:13] that

[1:15:14] movie

[1:15:14] I

[1:15:14] didn't

[1:15:14] understand

[1:15:15] it

[1:15:15] but

[1:15:16] you

[1:15:16] saying

[1:15:16] it

[1:15:17] twice

[1:15:17] doesn't

[1:15:17] make

[1:15:17] any

[1:15:18] more

[1:15:18] sense

[1:15:18] it

[1:15:18] still

[1:15:19] doesn't

Elliott Kalan

[1:15:19] track

[1:15:20] and

[1:15:21] Bert's

[1:15:22] video

[1:15:22] is

[1:15:22] both

[1:15:22] telling

[1:15:23] us

[1:15:23] things

[1:15:23] that

[1:15:23] we

[1:15:23] I've

[1:15:24] already

[1:15:24] heard

[1:15:24] or

[1:15:24] about

[1:15:24] to

[1:15:25] hear

[1:15:25] and

[1:15:25] then

[1:15:25] telling

[1:15:25] us

[1:15:26] things

[1:15:26] that

[1:15:26] I

[1:15:26] don't

[1:15:26] know

[1:15:27] how

[1:15:27] Bert knew

[1:15:27] because

[1:15:28] Bert's

[1:15:28] like

[1:15:28] turns out

[1:15:29] Tom

[1:15:30] had been

[1:15:30] paying

[1:15:30] people

[1:15:31] to put

[1:15:31] positive

[1:15:32] articles

[1:15:32] about

[1:15:32] the

[1:15:32] Nazis

[1:15:33] in

[1:15:33] newspapers

[1:15:33] and he

[1:15:34] even

[1:15:34] cut

[1:15:35] the

[1:15:35] shrubs

[1:15:35] in his

[1:15:36] garden

[1:15:36] to look

[1:15:36] like

[1:15:36] swastikas

[1:15:37] you

[1:15:37] gotta

[1:15:38] really

[1:15:38] be

[1:15:38] crazy

[1:15:38] to

[1:15:39] do

[1:15:39] that

[1:15:39] it's

[1:15:39] like

[1:15:39] when

[1:15:40] did

[1:15:40] this

[1:15:40] happen

[1:15:50] it's

[1:15:51] so funny

[1:15:52] to me

[1:15:52] for him

[1:15:53] to be

[1:15:53] like

[1:15:53] and

[1:15:54] here's

[1:15:54] some

[1:15:54] supporting

[1:15:55] evidence

[1:15:55] that

[1:15:55] the

[1:15:55] movie

[1:15:56] didn't

[1:15:56] have

[1:15:56] time

[1:15:57] to

[1:15:57] introduce

[1:15:57] him

[1:15:57] in

[1:15:57] organic

[1:15:58] manner

Dan McCoy

[1:15:58] how about

[1:16:00] this

[1:16:00] swastika

Elliott Kalan

[1:16:01] shrubs

[1:16:02] let me

[1:16:03] point you

[1:16:04] to

[1:16:04] appendix

[1:16:04] C

[1:16:05] in which

[1:16:05] we

[1:16:06] look

[1:16:06] at

[1:16:06] the

[1:16:06] swastika

[1:16:06] shrubs

[1:16:07] and also

[1:16:09] he

[1:16:09] goes

[1:16:09] you

[1:16:09] could

[1:16:09] only

[1:16:10] see

[1:16:10] it

[1:16:10] was

[1:16:10] a

[1:16:10] swastika

[1:16:10] from

[1:16:11] above

[1:16:11] but

[1:16:11] the

[1:16:11] shrub

[1:16:12] we

[1:16:12] see

[1:16:12] is

[1:16:12] pretty

[1:16:12] clearly

[1:16:13] a

[1:16:13] swastika

[1:16:13] they

[1:16:14] clearly

[1:16:16] had

Stuart Wellington

[1:16:17] this

[1:16:17] footage

[1:16:17] of

[1:16:17] the

[1:16:17] swastika

[1:16:18] shrub

[1:16:18] and

[1:16:19] I

[1:16:19] feel

[1:16:19] like

[1:16:19] that's

[1:16:20] even

[1:16:20] a

[1:16:20] shrub

[1:16:20] that

[1:16:20] they

[1:16:20] walk

[1:16:21] past

[1:16:21] earlier

[1:16:22] in

[1:16:22] the

[1:16:22] movie

[1:16:22] they

[1:16:24] made

[1:16:24] no

[1:16:24] real

[1:16:25] effort

[1:16:25] to

[1:16:25] hide

[1:16:26] Tom

[1:16:26] being

[1:16:26] a

[1:16:26] creepo

[1:16:27] why

[1:16:28] not

[1:16:28] reveal

[1:16:28] that

[1:16:29] when

[1:16:29] they

[1:16:29] left

[1:16:29] the

[1:16:29] house

[1:16:30] the

[1:16:30] first

[1:16:30] time

[1:16:31] so

[1:16:31] that

[1:16:31] at

[1:16:31] least

[1:16:31] you're

[1:16:32] like

[1:16:32] you

[1:16:32] know

[1:16:33] that

[1:16:33] the

[1:16:33] stakes

[1:16:34] are

[1:16:34] high

[1:16:34] you

[1:16:35] know

[1:16:35] what

[1:16:35] I

[1:16:35] mean

[1:16:36] at

[1:16:36] least

[1:16:37] know

[1:16:37] that

[1:16:37] oh

[1:16:38] the

[1:16:38] bad

[1:16:38] guys

[1:16:47] that

Elliott Kalan

[1:16:47] early

[1:16:47] but

[1:16:47] it's

[1:16:47] like

[1:16:48] one

[1:16:48] of

[1:16:48] the

[1:16:48] things

[1:16:48] I

[1:16:48] love

[1:16:49] in

[1:16:49] the

[1:16:49] movie

[1:16:49] the

[1:16:49] 39

[1:16:49] steps

[1:16:50] is

[1:16:50] when

[1:16:50] Robert

[1:16:51] Donat

[1:16:51] he

[1:16:51] goes

[1:16:52] to

[1:16:52] the

[1:16:52] guy

[1:16:52] who's

[1:16:52] supposed

[1:16:52] to

[1:16:52] be

[1:16:52] his

[1:16:52] contact

[1:16:53] that's

[1:16:53] the

[1:16:53] 39

[1:16:54] steps

Dan McCoy

[1:16:54] to

[1:16:54] the

[1:16:54] dreamlands

[1:16:55] right

Elliott Kalan

[1:16:55] not exactly

[1:16:58] but

[1:16:59] that

[1:16:59] he

[1:17:00] goes

[1:17:00] hey

[1:17:01] I

[1:17:01] need

[1:17:01] your

[1:17:01] help

[1:17:02] the

[1:17:02] guy

[1:17:02] that

[1:17:02] I'm

[1:17:03] supposed

[1:17:03] to

[1:17:03] look

[1:17:03] out

[1:17:03] for

[1:17:03] he's

[1:17:03] evil

[1:17:04] he's

[1:17:04] missing

[1:17:04] a

[1:17:04] joint

[1:17:04] on his

[1:17:05] little

[1:17:05] finger

[1:17:05] and

[1:17:05] the

[1:17:17] the movie

[1:17:17] isn't

[1:17:17] like

Dan McCoy

[1:17:18] why

[1:17:18] is

[1:17:18] this

[1:17:18] character

[1:17:19] always

[1:17:19] wearing

[1:17:19] gloves

[1:17:20] and

Elliott Kalan

[1:17:22] with

[1:17:23] gloves

[1:17:23] with

[1:17:23] one

[1:17:23] little

[1:17:23] floppy

[1:17:24] finger

[1:17:24] but

[1:17:25] I think

[1:17:26] if they

[1:17:27] had

[1:17:27] walked

[1:17:27] by it

[1:17:27] and you

[1:17:27] saw

[1:17:27] it

[1:17:28] was

[1:17:28] a

[1:17:28] swastika

[1:17:28] shrub

[1:17:28] but

[1:17:29] they

[1:17:29] missed

[1:17:29] that

[1:17:29] somehow

[1:17:29] it would

[1:17:31] fit their

Stuart Wellington

[1:17:34] characters

[1:17:34] and it

[1:17:35] would

[1:17:35] make

[1:17:35] the audience

[1:17:36] be like

[1:17:37] fuck

[1:17:37] they're

[1:17:37] actually

[1:17:38] in

[1:17:38] super

[1:17:38] real

[1:17:39] danger

[1:17:39] now

Elliott Kalan

[1:17:39] and

[1:17:40] the

[1:17:40] other

[1:17:41] thing

[1:17:41] is

[1:17:41] that

[1:17:41] and

[1:17:42] this

[1:17:42] is

[1:17:42] something

[1:17:42] again

[1:17:42] that

[1:17:42] I

[1:17:43] think

[1:17:43] maybe

[1:17:43] I

[1:17:47] he

[1:17:49] talks

[1:17:49] about

[1:17:49] it

[1:17:49] a lot

[1:17:50] as

[1:17:50] soon

[1:17:51] as

[1:17:51] he

[1:17:51] finds

[1:17:51] out

[1:17:51] Nazis

[1:17:52] are

[1:17:52] involved

[1:17:52] he

[1:17:53] doesn't

[1:17:53] seem

[1:17:54] to

[1:17:54] feel

[1:17:54] any

[1:17:54] more

[1:17:54] different

[1:17:55] than

[1:17:55] if

[1:17:55] they

[1:17:55] had

[1:17:55] been

[1:17:55] just

[1:17:56] rich

[1:17:56] bad

[1:17:57] guys

[1:17:57] when

[1:17:58] it's

[1:17:58] like

[1:17:58] Christian

[1:17:59] Bale

[1:17:59] these

[1:17:59] people

[1:18:00] are

[1:18:00] a

[1:18:00] genuine

[1:18:00] threat

[1:18:01] to

[1:18:01] you

[1:18:01] specifically

[1:18:02] and

[1:18:03] your

[1:18:03] family

[1:18:03] like

[1:18:03] I

[1:18:04] don't

[1:18:04] know

[1:18:04] a

[1:18:04] Jewish

[1:18:05] person

[1:18:05] in

[1:18:05] the

[1:18:05] 1930s

[1:18:06] who

[1:18:06] didn't

[1:18:07] have

[1:18:07] an

[1:18:07] opinion

[1:18:07] on

[1:18:08] Nazis

[1:18:08] that

[1:18:08] was

[1:18:09] different

[1:18:09] because

[1:18:09] they

[1:18:09] were

[1:18:17] they

S4

[1:18:17] was

[1:18:17] Nazis

[1:18:18] and

[1:18:19] pretty

[1:18:19] bad

Elliott Kalan

[1:18:20] it's

[1:18:20] like

[1:18:20] yeah

[1:18:21] more

[1:18:21] than

[1:18:21] pretty

[1:18:21] bad

[1:18:22] dude

[1:18:22] like

[1:18:22] anyway

[1:18:23] it

[1:18:23] felt

[1:18:24] like

[1:18:24] a

[1:18:24] modern

[1:18:26] day

[1:18:26] opinion

[1:18:28] but

[1:18:29] it's

[1:18:29] the

[1:18:29] 30s

[1:18:29] this

[1:18:29] is

[1:18:30] live

[1:18:30] history

[1:18:31] for

[1:18:31] them

[1:18:31] so

[1:18:32] anyway

[1:18:32] he

[1:18:32] doesn't

[1:18:32] know

[1:18:32] that

[1:18:32] World

[1:18:33] War II

[1:18:33] is

[1:18:33] going

[1:18:33] to

[1:18:33] end

[1:18:34] the

[1:18:34] right

[1:18:34] way

[1:18:34] for

[1:18:35] all

[1:18:36] he

[1:18:36] knows

[1:18:36] Hitler

[1:18:37] is

[1:18:37] going

[1:18:37] to

[1:18:37] run

[1:18:37] Germany

[1:18:38] for

[1:18:38] a

[1:18:38] thousand

[1:18:38] years

[1:18:38] like

[1:18:39] he's

[1:18:39] been

[1:18:39] promising

[1:18:39] using

[1:18:40] that

[1:18:40] real

[1:18:40] energy

[1:18:40] that

[1:18:41] Anya Taylor

[1:18:41] Joy

[1:18:41] is

[1:18:42] so

[1:18:42] hopped

[1:18:42] up

[1:18:42] about

[1:18:42] but

[1:18:43] anyway

[1:18:43] flash

[1:18:44] forward

[1:18:44] it's

[1:18:44] just

[1:18:45] the

[1:18:45] same

[1:18:45] again

[1:18:45] the

[1:18:45] general

[1:18:46] lack

[1:18:46] of

[1:18:46] the

[1:18:47] giving

[1:18:47] a

[1:18:47] shit

[1:18:48] about

[1:18:48] what

[1:18:48] happens

[1:18:49] in

[1:18:49] their

[1:18:49] own

[1:18:49] movie

[1:18:49] but

[1:18:50] we

[1:18:50] flash

[1:18:51] forward

[1:18:51] briefly

[1:18:51] to

[1:18:52] the

[1:18:52] general

[1:18:52] testifying

[1:18:52] before

[1:18:53] Congress

[1:18:53] about

[1:18:53] this

[1:18:53] then we

[1:18:54] go

[1:18:54] back

[1:18:54] to

[1:18:54] Tom

[1:18:55] and

[1:18:55] his

[1:18:55] wife

[1:18:55] laughing

[1:18:56] and

[1:18:56] then

[1:18:56] this

[1:18:57] was

[1:18:57] a

[1:18:57] moment

[1:18:57] that

[1:18:58] I

[1:18:58] found

[1:18:58] so

[1:18:58] baffling

[1:18:59] as

[1:18:59] to

[1:18:59] why

[1:18:59] it

[1:18:59] happens

[1:18:59] now

[1:19:00] Valerie

[1:19:00] shoots

[1:19:01] them

[1:19:01] both

[1:19:01] in

[1:19:01] the

[1:19:02] face

[1:19:02] with

[1:19:02] one

[1:19:03] bullet

[1:19:03] they're

[1:19:03] not

[1:19:04] killed

[1:19:04] and

[1:19:04] they

[1:19:04] go

[1:19:05] ow

[1:19:05] that

[1:19:05] really

[1:19:05] hurt

[1:19:05] why

[1:19:05] did

[1:19:06] you

[1:19:06] do

[1:19:06] that

[1:19:06] and

[1:19:06] then

[1:19:06] an

[1:19:07] instant

[1:19:07] later

[1:19:07] turns out

[1:19:08] that was

[1:19:08] a fantasy

[1:19:08] she was

[1:19:08] having

[1:19:09] she

[1:19:09] didn't

[1:19:09] really

[1:19:09] do

[1:19:09] it

[1:19:09] and

[1:19:10] she

[1:19:10] goes

[1:19:10] I

[1:19:10] was

[1:19:10] just

[1:19:10] thinking

[1:19:11] about

[1:19:11] shooting

[1:19:11] you

[1:19:11] in

[1:19:11] the

[1:19:11] face

[1:19:11] and

[1:19:12] it's

[1:19:12] why

[1:19:12] now

[1:19:13] that

[1:19:13] could

[1:19:13] be

[1:19:13] a

[1:19:13] funny

[1:19:13] joke

[1:19:14] at

[1:19:14] another

[1:19:14] I

[1:19:15] love

[1:19:18] that

Dan McCoy

[1:19:18] this

[1:19:18] happened

[1:19:29] but

[1:19:30] I

[1:19:30] did

[1:19:31] feel

[1:19:31] like

[1:19:31] that

[1:19:31] was

[1:19:31] an

[1:19:31] acknowledgement

[1:19:32] by

[1:19:32] the

[1:19:32] movie

[1:19:33] that

[1:19:33] look

[1:19:34] we

[1:19:34] realize

[1:19:34] that

[1:19:34] Christian

[1:19:35] Bale

[1:19:35] has

[1:19:35] been

[1:19:36] explaining

[1:19:36] the

[1:19:37] plot

[1:19:37] of

[1:19:37] the

[1:19:37] movie

[1:19:38] to

[1:19:38] you

[1:19:38] for

[1:19:38] the

[1:19:38] past

[1:19:39] ten

[1:19:39] minutes

[1:19:39] here

[1:19:40] we're

[1:19:40] going

[1:19:40] to have

[1:19:40] this

[1:19:40] brief

[1:19:41] weird

[1:19:41] joke

[1:19:42] where

[1:19:42] there's

[1:19:42] a

[1:19:43] fantasy

[1:19:43] sequence

[1:19:44] where

[1:19:44] she

[1:19:45] shoots

[1:19:46] these

[1:19:46] two

[1:19:46] bad

[1:19:47] guys

[1:19:47] and

[1:19:50] everyone

[1:19:50] yells at

[1:19:51] her

[1:19:51] we had

S4

[1:19:52] them

[1:19:52] you ruined

[1:19:54] it

[1:19:54] you're

[1:19:54] going to be

[1:19:54] in trouble

[1:19:55] now

Dan McCoy

[1:19:55] and then

[1:19:56] it's

[1:19:57] revealed

Elliott Kalan

[1:19:59] it's such

[1:20:01] a weird

[1:20:01] fantasy

[1:20:02] where

[1:20:02] she

[1:20:03] shoots

[1:20:03] them

[1:20:03] it

[1:20:03] happened

[1:20:03] so fast

[1:20:04] that I

[1:20:04] had to

[1:20:04] rewind

[1:20:05] to make

[1:20:05] sure I

[1:20:05] understood

[1:20:06] what

[1:20:06] had

[1:20:06] happened

[1:20:07] it's

[1:20:07] like

[1:20:08] a Han

[1:20:09] shooting

[1:20:10] Greedo

[1:20:10] level

[1:20:11] of

[1:20:11] like

[1:20:11] it

[1:20:12] comes

[1:20:12] out of

[1:20:13] nowhere

[1:20:13] I guess

[1:20:14] they set

[1:20:14] that up

[1:20:15] Han has

[1:20:15] his gun

[1:20:15] under the

[1:20:15] table

[1:20:15] and

[1:20:16] it's

[1:20:17] more like

[1:20:17] Greedo

[1:20:18] shooting

[1:20:18] first

[1:20:18] where

[1:20:18] it

[1:20:19] comes

[1:20:19] out of

[1:20:19] nowhere

[1:20:20] and you're

[1:20:20] not

[1:20:20] quite

[1:20:20] sure

[1:20:20] what

[1:20:20] happened

[1:20:20] and

[1:20:21] the

[1:20:21] two

[1:20:21] of

[1:20:22] them

[1:20:22] are

[1:20:22] like

[1:20:22] ow

[1:20:22] why

[1:20:22] did

[1:20:23] you

[1:20:23] do

[1:20:23] that

[1:20:23] and

[1:20:23] the

[1:20:23] spies

[1:20:24] are

[1:20:24] like

[1:20:24] we

[1:20:24] had

[1:20:25] all

[1:20:25] the

[1:20:25] evidence

[1:20:25] now

[1:20:25] we

[1:20:26] have

[1:20:26] nothing

[1:20:26] which

[1:20:27] doesn't

[1:20:27] make

[1:20:27] sense

[1:20:27] someone

[1:20:28] doesn't

[1:20:28] stop

[1:20:28] being a

[1:20:29] criminal

[1:20:29] because

[1:20:29] they got

[1:20:29] shot

[1:20:29] in the

[1:20:30] face

[1:20:30] like

[1:20:30] they're

[1:20:30] going

[1:20:31] to go

[1:20:31] to the

[1:20:31] trial

[1:20:31] and the

[1:20:32] judge

[1:20:32] is

[1:20:32] going

[1:20:32] to be

[1:20:32] like

[1:20:32] well

[1:20:33] you

[1:20:33] did

[1:20:33] kill

[1:20:34] someone

[1:20:34] and

[1:20:34] try

[1:20:35] to

[1:20:35] overthrow

[1:20:35] the

[1:20:35] government

[1:20:35] but

[1:20:36] in

[1:20:36] light

[1:20:39] of

[1:20:39] the

[1:20:39] fact

[1:20:39] that

[1:20:39] you

[1:20:39] got

[1:20:39] shot

[1:20:40] in

[1:20:40] the

[1:20:40] face

[1:20:40] afterwards

[1:20:41] you're

[1:20:41] free

[1:20:41] to

[1:20:42] go

[1:20:42] you

[1:20:42] know

[1:20:43] we

[1:20:43] can't

[1:20:43] find

[1:20:44] you

[1:20:44] guilty

[1:20:44] I mean

[1:20:44] it does

[1:20:45] cast

Dan McCoy

[1:20:45] a little

[1:20:46] doubt

[1:20:47] on the

[1:20:48] proceedings

[1:20:48] whether

[1:20:48] it was

[1:20:49] a

[1:20:49] you know

[1:20:51] was done

[1:20:51] on the

[1:20:51] up

[1:20:52] and

[1:20:52] up

[1:20:52] let's

[1:20:53] do

[1:20:54] a

[1:20:54] mock

[1:20:54] trial

[1:20:55] we're

Elliott Kalan

[1:20:58] going to

[1:20:58] do

[1:20:58] a

[1:20:58] mock

[1:20:59] trial

[1:20:59] Dan

[1:21:00] is

[1:21:00] defendant

[1:21:00] okay

[1:21:00] let's

[1:21:01] do

[1:21:01] it

[1:21:01] okay

[1:21:01] Dan

[1:21:02] you're

[1:21:02] the

[1:21:02] defendant

[1:21:02] I'm

[1:21:03] the

[1:21:03] prosecutor

[1:21:03] Stuart

[1:21:04] you're

[1:21:04] the

[1:21:04] judge

[1:21:04] ladies

[1:21:05] and gentlemen

[1:21:05] of the

[1:21:06] jury

[1:21:06] now

[1:21:07] I

[1:21:07] have

[1:21:08] here

[1:21:08] two

[1:21:11] with

Elliott Kalan

[1:21:11] one

[1:21:11] bullet

[1:21:11] it's

[1:21:12] amazing

[1:21:12] that

[1:21:12] it

[1:21:13] happened

[1:21:13] that

[1:21:13] way

[1:21:13] but

[1:21:14] still

[1:21:14] let

[1:21:14] us

[1:21:15] not

[1:21:15] forget

[1:21:15] the

[1:21:15] mountains

[1:21:16] of

[1:21:16] evidence

[1:21:16] that

[1:21:17] they

[1:21:17] killed

Dan McCoy

[1:21:18] Taylor

[1:21:18] Swift

[1:21:19] ow

[1:21:19] I

[1:21:19] hurt

[1:21:20] so

[1:21:20] much

[1:21:20] because

[1:21:20] I

[1:21:20] got

[1:21:20] shot

[1:21:21] in

[1:21:21] the

[1:21:21] face

[1:21:21] ow

[1:21:22] well

Elliott Kalan

[1:21:23] I

[1:21:41] eating

Stuart Wellington

[1:21:41] see

[1:21:41] god

[1:21:42] dang

[1:21:43] it

[1:21:44] jury

[1:21:45] you're

[1:21:46] free

[1:21:46] to

[1:21:46] go

[1:21:46] I'm

[1:21:47] one

[1:21:47] of

[1:21:47] those

[1:21:47] judges

[1:21:48] that

[1:21:48] wears

[1:21:48] a

[1:21:49] weird

[1:21:49] wig

[1:21:49] for

[1:21:50] some

[1:21:50] reason

Elliott Kalan

[1:21:50] oh

[1:21:51] so

[1:21:52] they're

[1:21:52] being

[1:21:52] tried

[1:21:52] in

[1:21:52] British

[1:21:53] courts

[1:21:53] because

[1:21:53] Paul

[1:21:54] Canterbury

[1:21:54] arrested

[1:21:55] them

[1:21:55] okay

[1:21:55] yes

[1:21:55] that's

[1:21:56] why

[1:21:57] ladies

[1:21:58] and gentlemen

[1:21:59] of the

[1:21:59] jury

[1:21:59] it's

[1:22:00] so

[1:22:00] exciting

[1:22:01] to be

[1:22:01] here

[1:22:01] in

[1:22:01] old

[1:22:02] Britannia

[1:22:02] the

[1:22:03] mother

[1:22:03] country

[1:22:04] trying

[1:22:06] this

[1:22:06] try

[1:22:06] I

Dan McCoy

[1:22:07] say

[1:22:07] my

[1:22:07] face

[1:22:08] hurts

[1:22:08] something

[1:22:09] terrible

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:09] now

[1:22:10] now

[1:22:11] let me

[1:22:11] remind

[1:22:11] let me

[1:22:12] let me

[1:22:12] remind

[1:22:13] the jury

[1:22:13] that the

[1:22:14] defendants

[1:22:14] are not

[1:22:15] actually

[1:22:15] British

[1:22:15] they seem

[1:22:16] to be

[1:22:17] affecting

[1:22:17] a British

[1:22:17] accent

[1:22:18] to sway

[1:22:19] the jury

[1:22:19] and to

[1:22:20] find it

[1:22:21] in their

Dan McCoy

[1:22:21] favor

[1:22:21] well I

[1:22:22] never

[1:22:22] I've

[1:22:24] never

Elliott Kalan

[1:22:24] heard

[1:22:24] such

[1:22:25] ridiculousness

[1:22:26] in my

[1:22:26] life

[1:22:27] now

[1:22:28] okay

[1:22:28] I didn't

[1:22:29] think

[1:22:29] we'd

[1:22:29] have

[1:22:29] to do

[1:22:29] this

[1:22:29] but

[1:22:30] I'm

[1:22:30] going

[1:22:30] to

[1:22:30] submit

[1:22:30] to

[1:22:30] the

[1:22:30] jury

[1:22:31] exhibit

[1:22:31] negative

[1:22:32] A

[1:22:32] that

[1:22:33] the

[1:22:33] defendants

[1:22:33] are

[1:22:34] the

[1:22:34] Vose

[1:22:34] couple

[1:22:35] from

[1:22:36] New

[1:22:36] Jersey

[1:22:36] not

[1:22:37] old

[1:22:37] Jersey

[1:22:37] forget

[1:22:40] about

[1:22:41] it

[1:22:41] okay

[1:22:42] now

[1:22:43] they're

[1:22:43] affecting

[1:22:43] a New

[1:22:44] Jersey

[1:22:44] accent

[1:22:44] I'm

[1:22:44] not

[1:22:45] quite

[1:22:45] sure

[1:22:45] why

[1:22:45] there

[1:22:46] are

[1:22:46] people

[1:22:47] in

[1:22:47] New

[1:22:47] Jersey

[1:22:47] don't

[1:22:47] sound

[1:22:47] quite

[1:22:48] like

[1:22:48] that

[1:22:48] but

[1:22:48] yes

[1:22:49] it's

[1:22:50] not

[1:22:50] helping

[1:22:50] nor

[1:22:50] hindering

[1:22:51] their

[1:22:51] case

[1:22:51] it's

[1:22:51] just

[1:22:52] a

[1:22:52] weird

[1:22:52] thing

[1:22:52] for them

[1:22:53] to do

[1:22:53] in this

[1:22:54] set

[1:22:54] of

[1:22:54] circumstances

[1:22:55] the

[1:22:57] great

Stuart Wellington

[1:22:57] thing

[1:22:57] about

[1:22:57] this

[1:22:58] trial

[1:22:58] scene

[1:22:58] that

[1:22:58] we're

[1:22:59] playing

[1:22:59] out

[1:22:59] is

[1:22:59] that

[1:22:59] it

[1:22:59] has

[1:23:00] the

[1:23:00] same

[1:23:00] level

[1:23:00] of

[1:23:01] urgency

[1:23:01] as

[1:23:01] the

[1:23:01] movie

[1:23:02] we're

[1:23:02] talking

Elliott Kalan

[1:23:11] about

[1:23:13] how

[1:23:13] you

[1:23:13] need

[1:23:14] love

[1:23:14] in

[1:23:14] your

[1:23:14] life

[1:23:14] and

[1:23:15] he

[1:23:15] goes

[1:23:15] through

[1:23:15] thinking

[1:23:16] about

[1:23:16] all

[1:23:16] the

[1:23:16] people

[1:23:16] he

[1:23:16] loves

[1:23:17] and

[1:23:17] just

[1:23:17] moralizes

[1:23:18] at

[1:23:18] length

[1:23:18] about

[1:23:18] being

[1:23:19] kind

[1:23:19] and

[1:23:20] loving

[1:23:20] people

[1:23:20] which

[1:23:21] again

[1:23:21] is

[1:23:22] rich

[1:23:22] coming

[1:23:22] from

[1:23:23] David O.

[1:23:24] Russell

[1:23:24] a man

[1:23:24] who

[1:23:25] by most

[1:23:26] public

[1:23:26] accounts

[1:23:26] is a

[1:23:27] very

[1:23:27] mean

[1:23:27] man

[1:23:27] and

[1:23:28] is

[1:23:28] not

[1:23:28] kind

[1:23:28] to

[1:23:29] people

[1:23:29] and

[1:23:30] we

[1:23:30] find

[1:23:31] out

[1:23:31] that

[1:23:31] his

[1:23:31] back

[1:23:31] brace

[1:23:32] stopped

[1:23:32] the

[1:23:32] bullet

[1:23:33] that's

[1:23:33] why

[1:23:33] he

[1:23:33] isn't

[1:23:33] dead

[1:23:34] now

[1:23:34] nobody

[1:23:38] goes

[1:23:39] to

[1:23:39] jail

[1:23:39] the

[1:23:40] general's

[1:23:40] reputation

[1:23:41] does

[1:23:41] get

[1:23:41] smeared

[1:23:42] but

[1:23:42] that's

[1:23:42] just

[1:23:42] kind

[1:23:42] of

[1:23:42] like

[1:23:43] a

[1:23:43] hanging

[1:23:43] loose

[1:23:43] thread

[1:23:44] and

[1:23:44] for

[1:23:45] some

[1:23:45] reason

[1:23:45] he's

[1:23:46] like

[1:23:46] of

[1:23:46] course

[1:23:46] Valerie

[1:23:47] and

[1:23:47] Harold

[1:23:47] had

[1:23:47] to

[1:23:48] flee

[1:23:48] the

[1:23:48] United

[1:23:48] States

[1:23:48] that

[1:23:49] night

[1:23:49] I

[1:23:50] don't

[1:23:50] understand

[1:23:50] why

[1:23:50] they

[1:23:51] had

[1:23:51] to

[1:23:51] do

[1:23:51] that

Dan McCoy

[1:23:52] doesn't

Elliott Kalan

[1:23:56] make

[1:23:56] any

[1:23:57] sense

[1:23:57] well

[1:23:57] they

[1:23:57] want

[1:23:59] to

[1:23:59] go

[1:23:59] to

[1:23:59] Amsterdam

[1:24:01] and

[1:24:02] they

[1:24:03] go

[1:24:03] don't

[1:24:03] go

[1:24:03] to

[1:24:03] Amsterdam

[1:24:04] or

[1:24:04] the

[1:24:04] Gestapo

[1:24:05] will

[1:24:05] knock

[1:24:05] down

[1:24:05] your

[1:24:05] door

[1:24:06] and

[1:24:06] they're

[1:24:06] like

[1:24:06] what's

[1:24:06] a

[1:24:06] Gestapo

[1:24:07] and

[1:24:07] he's

[1:24:08] like

[1:24:08] you'll

[1:24:08] find

[1:24:09] out

[1:24:09] again

[1:24:09] they

[1:24:10] would

[1:24:10] have

[1:24:10] this

[1:24:10] stuff

[1:24:10] was

[1:24:11] in

[1:24:11] the

[1:24:11] newspapers

[1:24:11] like

[1:24:12] they

[1:24:12] would

[1:24:12] have

[1:24:12] known

[1:24:12] about

[1:24:12] this

[1:24:12] stuff

[1:24:13] Germany

[1:24:13] was

[1:24:14] not

[1:24:14] like

[1:24:14] a

[1:24:14] secret

[1:24:15] you know

[1:24:15] anyway

[1:24:16] they get

[1:24:17] sent to

[1:24:18] an undisclosed

[1:24:18] location

[1:24:19] yeah

[1:24:20] and

[1:24:21] Bert

[1:24:21] decides

[1:24:22] he's

[1:24:22] going to

[1:24:22] stay

[1:24:23] he's

[1:24:23] going to

[1:24:24] stay

[1:24:24] here

[1:24:24] and

[1:24:24] fight

[1:24:25] he

[1:24:25] kind

[1:24:26] of

[1:24:26] doesn't

[1:24:26] I mean

[1:24:27] the reason

[1:24:27] he's

[1:24:27] saying

[1:24:27] is

[1:24:27] clearly

[1:24:28] because

[1:24:28] he wants

[1:24:28] to

[1:24:28] have

[1:24:28] sex

[1:24:29] with

[1:24:29] Irma

[1:24:29] but

[1:24:29] he

[1:24:30] doesn't

[1:24:30] say

[1:24:30] that

[1:24:30] he's

[1:24:31] just

[1:24:31] like

[1:24:31] I gotta

[1:24:31] stay

[1:24:32] here

[1:24:32] and

[1:24:32] look out

[1:24:33] for the

[1:24:33] people

[1:24:33] I love

[1:24:34] let's

[1:24:34] be kind

[1:24:34] everybody

[1:24:35] kindness

[1:24:36] kindness

[1:24:37] that's what

[1:24:37] I'm talking

[1:24:38] kindness

[1:24:38] let's

[1:24:38] just be

[1:24:39] kind

[1:24:39] kindness

[1:24:40] and the

[1:24:40] movie

[1:24:40] just

[1:24:40] kind

[1:24:40] of

[1:24:40] peters

[1:24:41] out

[1:24:41] and

[1:24:41] then

Dan McCoy

[1:24:41] during

[1:24:42] the

[1:24:43] credits

[1:24:43] we see

[1:24:43] Robert

[1:24:44] De Niro

[1:24:44] giving the

[1:24:45] same speech

[1:24:45] that the

[1:24:46] one

[1:24:46] real

[1:24:47] character

[1:24:48] in this

[1:24:48] movie

[1:24:49] made

[1:24:49] that the

[1:24:50] real

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:50] general

[1:24:50] he's

[1:24:51] based

[1:24:51] on

[1:24:51] gave

[1:24:52] to

Dan McCoy

[1:24:54] bolster

[1:24:54] the idea

[1:24:55] that this

[1:24:55] actually

[1:24:55] happened

[1:24:56] I fucking

[1:24:56] hate

[1:24:56] this

[1:24:56] shit

Elliott Kalan

[1:24:57] and

[1:24:58] the

[1:24:58] real

[1:24:58] story

[1:24:58] behind

[1:24:59] it

[1:24:59] is

[1:24:59] that

[1:24:59] this

[1:24:59] general

[1:25:00] was

[1:25:00] like

[1:25:00] a

[1:25:01] bunch

[1:25:01] of

[1:25:01] rich

[1:25:01] people

[1:25:02] came

[1:25:02] to

[1:25:02] me

[1:25:02] and

[1:25:02] they

[1:25:02] gave

[1:25:03] me

[1:25:03] money

[1:25:03] so

[1:25:03] I

[1:25:03] become

[1:25:04] a

[1:25:04] dictator

[1:25:04] and

[1:25:05] nobody

[1:25:05] was

[1:25:05] ever

[1:25:06] arrested

[1:25:06] and

[1:25:07] people

[1:25:07] to

[1:25:07] this

[1:25:07] day

[1:25:07] debate

[1:25:08] on

[1:25:08] how

[1:25:08] serious

[1:25:08] that

[1:25:09] plot

[1:25:09] was

[1:25:09] or

[1:25:09] how

[1:25:10] far

[1:25:10] along

[1:25:12] it

[1:25:12] went

[1:25:13] but

[1:25:13] this

[1:25:14] movie

[1:25:14] is

[1:25:14] like

[1:25:15] I

[1:25:16] don't

[1:25:16] know

[1:25:16] let's

[1:25:16] go

[1:25:16] into

[1:25:16] final

[1:25:16] judgments

[1:25:17] I guess

[1:25:17] I've

[1:25:18] made

[1:25:18] it

[1:25:18] pretty

[1:25:18] clear

[1:25:18] how

[1:25:18] I

[1:25:18] feel

[1:25:19] about

[1:25:19] the

[1:25:19] movie

[1:25:19] but

[1:25:19] Dan

[1:25:20] should

[1:25:20] we

[1:25:20] do

[1:25:20] final

[1:25:20] judgments

Dan McCoy

[1:25:21] real quick

Stuart Wellington

[1:25:23] before we

[1:25:23] do

[1:25:23] final

[1:25:23] judgments

[1:25:24] a little

[1:25:24] round of

[1:25:25] applause

[1:25:25] from our

[1:25:26] listeners

[1:25:26] making it

[1:25:33] said

Dan McCoy

[1:25:34] it

[1:25:34] all

[1:25:34] it's

[1:25:34] a

[1:25:34] very

[1:25:35] convoluted

[1:25:35] movie

[1:25:36] a lot

[1:25:37] of

[1:25:37] plot

[1:25:37] a lot

[1:25:38] of

[1:25:38] incident

[1:25:38] you

[1:25:39] got

[1:25:39] through

[1:25:39] it

[1:25:40] with

Stuart Wellington

[1:25:40] a

[1:25:40] cold

[1:25:40] that's

[1:25:42] what

[1:25:42] I'm

[1:25:42] saying

[1:25:42] you

[1:25:42] got

[1:25:42] through

[1:25:42] the

[1:25:42] whole

[1:25:43] thing

[1:25:43] with

[1:25:43] a

[1:25:43] cold

[1:25:44] I

[1:25:44] had

[1:25:45] you know

[1:25:45] I was

[1:25:45] ready to

[1:25:46] tag in

[1:25:46] at any

[1:25:46] point

[1:25:47] didn't

[1:25:47] need

[1:25:47] to

[1:25:47] I'm

[1:25:47] still

[1:25:48] hanging

[1:25:48] out

[1:25:48] by

[1:25:48] the

[1:25:49] ropes

[1:25:49] I

Elliott Kalan

[1:25:50] appreciate

[1:25:50] that

[1:25:50] Stuart

[1:25:51] and for

[1:25:51] the

[1:25:51] listeners

[1:25:52] who missed

[1:25:52] some

[1:25:52] of the

[1:25:53] details

[1:25:53] because

[1:25:53] they

[1:25:53] were

[1:25:53] orgasming

[1:25:54] because

[1:25:54] of my

[1:25:54] sexy

[1:25:55] voice

[1:25:55] just

[1:25:55] listen

[1:25:56] to

[1:25:56] it

[1:26:05] you

[1:26:06] get

Stuart Wellington

[1:26:06] to

[1:26:06] a

[1:26:06] place

[1:26:07] where

[1:26:07] you're

[1:26:07] so

[1:26:08] desensitized

[1:26:09] that you

[1:26:09] can't

[1:26:10] reach

[1:26:10] climax

[1:26:11] without

[1:26:11] it

[1:26:12] you

Elliott Kalan

[1:26:12] need

[1:26:13] even

[1:26:14] rougher

[1:26:14] stuff

[1:26:14] which is

[1:26:15] me

[1:26:15] being

[1:26:15] strangled

[1:26:16] while

[1:26:16] talking

[1:26:16] to get

[1:26:17] my voice

[1:26:17] to be

[1:26:18] even

[1:26:18] rougher

[1:26:18] and rascal

[1:26:19] awkward

[1:26:19] so let's

Dan McCoy

[1:26:20] go on

[1:26:20] to the

[1:26:21] final

[1:26:21] judgments

[1:26:22] look

[1:26:23] I mean

[1:26:23] I knew

[1:26:24] that it

[1:26:25] was

[1:26:25] somewhat

[1:26:26] of a

[1:26:26] mess

[1:26:26] I

[1:26:27] like

[1:26:27] talking

[1:26:27] to

[1:26:27] you

[1:26:27] guys

[1:26:28] has

[1:26:28] only

[1:26:29] reinforced

[1:26:29] like

[1:26:30] the

[1:26:30] silliness

[1:26:30] of a

[1:26:31] lot

[1:26:31] of it

[1:26:31] but

[1:26:32] I

[1:26:34] think

[1:26:34] that

[1:26:35] this

[1:26:36] movie

[1:26:36] has a

[1:26:36] lot

[1:26:37] of

[1:26:37] what

[1:26:37] I

[1:26:37] like

[1:26:38] in

[1:26:38] a

[1:26:38] movie

[1:26:38] and

[1:26:39] so

[1:26:39] even

[1:26:39] a

[1:26:40] bad

[1:26:40] version

[1:26:40] of

[1:26:40] it

[1:26:41] I

[1:26:41] enjoy

[1:26:41] because

[1:26:42] I

[1:26:42] like

[1:26:42] this

[1:26:43] kind

[1:26:43] of

[1:26:43] sprawling

[1:26:45] serial

[1:26:47] comic

[1:26:47] kind

[1:26:48] of

[1:26:49] like

[1:26:49] goofy

[1:26:49] capery

[1:26:50] but

[1:26:50] also

[1:26:51] not

[1:26:52] thing

[1:26:53] I

[1:26:53] mean

[1:26:53] like

[1:26:53] this

[1:26:53] is

[1:26:54] not

[1:26:54] the

[1:26:54] best

[1:26:54] example

[1:26:55] of it

[1:26:55] obviously

[1:26:55] but

[1:26:56] I

[1:26:56] like

[1:26:56] it

[1:26:56] enough

[1:26:56] as

[1:26:57] a

[1:26:57] thing

[1:26:57] that

[1:26:58] I

[1:26:58] enjoyed

[1:26:58] it

[1:26:59] and

[1:26:59] I

[1:26:59] like

[1:26:59] all

[1:26:59] the

[1:26:59] performers

[1:27:00] and

[1:27:01] also

[1:27:02] I

[1:27:03] have

[1:27:03] a

[1:27:03] certain

[1:27:03] fondness

[1:27:04] for

[1:27:04] ramshackle

[1:27:05] broken

[1:27:05] things

[1:27:06] much as

[1:27:07] you

[1:27:07] might

[1:27:07] think

[1:27:07] the

[1:27:08] cutest

[1:27:08] dog

[1:27:08] at

[1:27:09] the

[1:27:09] pound

[1:27:09] is

[1:27:09] the

[1:27:09] one

[1:27:10] that's

[1:27:10] all

[1:27:10] like

[1:27:11] slobbery

[1:27:11] and

[1:27:12] scruffy

[1:27:12] you know

[1:27:13] I

[1:27:14] often

[1:27:14] Dan

Elliott Kalan

[1:27:15] goes to

[1:27:16] the

[1:27:16] pound

[1:27:16] and he's

[1:27:16] like

[1:27:16] show me

[1:27:17] your

[1:27:17] fucked

[1:27:17] up

[1:27:18] dogs

[1:27:18] amsterdam

[1:27:21] is the

Dan McCoy

[1:27:22] fucked up

[1:27:22] pound

[1:27:23] dog

[1:27:23] of

[1:27:23] movies

[1:27:24] and

[1:27:24] I

[1:27:24] enjoy

[1:27:25] it

[1:27:25] for

[1:27:25] that

[1:27:25] I

[1:27:25] also

[1:27:26] want

[1:27:26] to

[1:27:26] ask

[1:27:26] you

[1:27:26] a

[1:27:26] question

[1:27:26] before

[1:27:27] I

[1:27:27] mean

[1:27:27] like

[1:27:27] you

[1:27:27] can

[1:27:28] give

[1:27:28] your

[1:27:28] own

[1:27:28] assessments

[1:27:29] obviously

[1:27:29] too

[1:27:30] but I

[1:27:30] want

[1:27:30] to

[1:27:30] ask

[1:27:30] you

[1:27:31] this

[1:27:31] question

[1:27:31] how much

[1:27:31] more

[1:27:32] would

[1:27:32] you

[1:27:32] have

[1:27:32] liked

[1:27:32] this

[1:27:32] movie

[1:27:33] if it

[1:27:34] did

[1:27:34] not

[1:27:34] claim

[1:27:35] at all

[1:27:35] to be

[1:27:36] based

[1:27:36] on true

[1:27:36] events

[1:27:37] if it

[1:27:37] was

[1:27:37] just

[1:27:37] presented

[1:27:37] as

[1:27:38] historical

[1:27:38] fiction

[1:27:39] because I

[1:27:39] think

[1:27:39] that

[1:27:39] that might

[1:27:40] have

[1:27:40] helped

[1:27:40] it

Elliott Kalan

[1:27:41] I

[1:27:41] think

[1:27:42] to be

[1:27:42] honest

[1:27:43] I

[1:27:43] think

[1:27:43] it

[1:27:45] would

[1:27:45] have

[1:27:45] helped

[1:27:45] it

[1:27:45] a little

[1:27:45] bit

[1:27:45] but at

[1:27:46] the same

[1:27:46] time

[1:27:46] it

[1:27:46] still

[1:27:46] takes

[1:27:47] place

[1:27:47] in a

[1:27:48] world

[1:27:48] that

[1:27:48] existed

[1:27:49] so

[1:27:50] there's

[1:27:50] the

[1:27:50] thing

[1:27:51] I

[1:27:51] think

[1:27:51] the

[1:27:51] bigger

[1:27:51] problems

[1:27:52] I

[1:27:52] had

[1:27:52] with

[1:27:52] it

[1:27:52] were

[1:27:52] less

[1:27:53] the

[1:27:53] things

[1:27:53] that

[1:27:54] it

[1:27:54] did

[1:27:54] to

[1:27:54] change

[1:27:54] history

[1:27:55] and

[1:27:55] more

[1:27:55] the

[1:27:55] things

[1:27:55] that

[1:27:56] it

[1:27:56] ignored

[1:27:57] about

[1:27:57] the

[1:27:57] world

[1:27:58] at

[1:27:58] that

[1:27:58] time

[1:27:58] like

[1:27:59] it's

[1:27:59] a

[1:27:59] movie

[1:27:59] where

[1:28:00] a

[1:28:00] white

[1:28:00] man

[1:28:00] and

[1:28:00] black

[1:28:10] was

Elliott Kalan

[1:28:11] for

[1:28:12] most

[1:28:12] people

[1:28:12] not

[1:28:13] that

[1:28:13] they

[1:28:14] all

[1:28:14] felt

[1:28:14] it

[1:28:14] that

[1:28:14] everyone's

[1:28:15] life

[1:28:15] was

[1:28:15] affected

[1:28:15] by

[1:28:16] it

[1:28:16] and

[1:28:16] it

[1:28:16] kind

[1:28:16] of

[1:28:17] like

[1:28:17] it

[1:28:18] kind

[1:28:18] of

[1:28:18] like

[1:28:18] dances

[1:28:18] around

[1:28:19] it

[1:28:19] you

[1:28:19] know

[1:28:19] people

[1:28:19] are

[1:28:19] more

[1:28:20] miffed

[1:28:21] at

[1:28:21] interracial

[1:28:22] relationships

[1:28:22] than they

[1:28:23] are

[1:28:23] offended

[1:28:24] or disgusted

[1:28:25] by it

[1:28:25] at the

[1:28:25] time

[1:28:25] that

[1:28:26] was

[1:28:26] illegal

[1:28:27] in

[1:28:27] much

[1:28:27] of

[1:28:27] the

[1:28:27] country

[1:28:27] so

[1:28:28] like

[1:28:29] it's

[1:28:29] a

[1:28:30] movie

[1:28:30] that

[1:28:30] feels

[1:28:30] like

[1:28:30] it

[1:28:30] is

[1:28:31] I

[1:28:31] think

[1:28:31] if

[1:28:31] it

[1:28:32] was

[1:28:32] more

[1:28:32] if

[1:28:33] it

[1:28:34] was

[1:28:34] more

[1:28:34] artificial

[1:28:35] I

[1:28:35] could

[1:28:35] buy

[1:28:35] that

[1:28:35] fake

[1:28:36] past

[1:28:37] world

[1:28:37] a little

[1:28:38] more

[1:28:38] the

[1:28:38] same

[1:28:38] way

[1:28:38] that

[1:28:38] like

[1:28:39] the

[1:28:39] great

[1:28:40] is

[1:28:40] a

[1:28:40] show

[1:28:40] I

[1:28:40] enjoy

[1:28:41] and

[1:28:41] it

[1:28:41] has

[1:28:41] almost

[1:28:41] no

[1:28:42] connection

[1:28:42] with

[1:28:42] real

[1:28:42] history

[1:28:43] but

[1:28:43] it

[1:28:43] exists

[1:28:43] in

[1:28:44] a

[1:28:44] fantasy

[1:28:44] world

[1:28:45] of

[1:28:45] 18th

[1:28:46] century

[1:28:46] Russia

[1:28:47] you

[1:28:47] know

[1:28:47] so

[1:28:47] it's

[1:28:48] not

[1:28:48] laying

[1:28:49] claim

[1:28:49] to

[1:28:50] any

[1:28:51] sort

[1:28:52] of

[1:28:52] reality

Stuart Wellington

[1:28:53] it

[1:28:53] seems

[1:28:53] like

[1:28:53] a lot

[1:28:54] of

[1:28:54] movies

[1:28:54] have

[1:28:54] two

[1:28:55] speeds

[1:28:56] they

[1:28:56] can

[1:28:56] either

[1:28:57] be

[1:28:57] like

[1:29:02] black

[1:29:04] people

[1:29:04] can

[1:29:04] only

[1:29:05] exist

[1:29:05] through

[1:29:05] trauma

[1:29:06] stories

[1:29:06] or

[1:29:07] it's

[1:29:08] ignored

[1:29:09] entirely

[1:29:09] and

[1:29:09] just

[1:29:10] imagined

[1:29:11] it

[1:29:11] doesn't

[1:29:11] happen

[1:29:12] and

[1:29:12] I

[1:29:12] feel

[1:29:12] like

[1:29:13] neither

[1:29:13] one

[1:29:14] does

[1:29:14] a

[1:29:15] good

[1:29:15] surface

[1:29:16] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[1:29:17] I mean

[1:29:18] it's

[1:29:18] something

[1:29:18] that

[1:29:18] a lot

[1:29:18] of

[1:29:18] movies

[1:29:19] struggle

[1:29:19] I

[1:29:19] feel

[1:29:20] like

[1:29:20] I've

[1:29:20] seen

[1:29:20] more

[1:29:21] movies

[1:29:21] that

[1:29:21] have

[1:29:21] failed

[1:29:21] with

[1:29:21] that

[1:29:22] challenge

[1:29:22] than

[1:29:22] have

[1:29:22] succeeded

[1:29:23] but

[1:29:23] I

[1:29:24] think

[1:29:25] you're

[1:29:25] right

[1:29:26] Dan

[1:29:26] that

[1:29:26] if

[1:29:26] it

[1:29:27] didn't

[1:29:27] pretend

[1:29:27] to be

[1:29:28] historical

[1:29:28] truth

[1:29:29] at

[1:29:29] all

[1:29:29] then

[1:29:30] it

[1:29:31] might

[1:29:31] have

[1:29:31] I

[1:29:31] think

[1:29:31] I

[1:29:32] might

[1:29:32] have

[1:29:32] enjoyed

[1:29:32] it

[1:29:32] slightly

[1:29:33] more

[1:29:33] but

[1:29:33] I

[1:29:34] would

[1:29:34] still

[1:29:34] call

[1:29:34] it

[1:29:34] a

[1:29:34] bad

[1:29:34] movie

[1:29:35] because

[1:29:35] it's

[1:29:35] just

[1:29:35] like

[1:29:35] it

[1:29:36] tries

[1:29:36] to be

[1:29:37] funny

[1:29:37] and

[1:29:37] it's

[1:29:37] not

[1:29:37] funny

[1:29:38] it tries

[1:29:38] to be

[1:29:39] beautiful

[1:29:39] and it's

[1:29:39] not

[1:29:39] beautiful

[1:29:40] it tries

[1:29:40] to be

[1:29:40] exciting

[1:29:41] and it's

[1:29:41] not

[1:29:41] exciting

[1:29:42] and so

[1:29:42] it's

[1:29:43] so

[1:29:44] it

[1:29:45] entered

[1:29:45] that kind

[1:29:46] of uncanny

[1:29:46] valley

[1:29:47] place for

[1:29:47] me

[1:29:47] with a

[1:29:48] movie

[1:29:48] where

[1:29:48] it's

[1:29:48] like

[1:29:49] this

[1:29:49] movie

[1:29:49] is

[1:29:50] telling

[1:29:50] me

[1:29:50] that

[1:30:00] the

[1:30:01] movie

[1:30:01] version

[1:30:01] of

[1:30:02] you're

[1:30:02] sitting

[1:30:02] next

[1:30:02] to

[1:30:02] a

[1:30:03] drunk

[1:30:03] guy

[1:30:03] at

[1:30:03] the

[1:30:03] bar

[1:30:04] who

[1:30:04] told

[1:30:04] you

[1:30:04] a

[1:30:05] joke

[1:30:05] and

[1:30:05] you

[1:30:05] don't

[1:30:05] think

[1:30:05] that's

[1:30:05] funny

[1:30:06] and he

[1:30:06] just keeps

[1:30:06] shoving

[1:30:07] you

[1:30:07] and going

[1:30:07] funny

[1:30:08] right

[1:30:08] isn't it

[1:30:09] funny

[1:30:09] it's

[1:30:10] funny

[1:30:10] right

[1:30:10] and the

[1:30:11] more he

[1:30:11] does

[1:30:11] that

[1:30:11] the

[1:30:12] less

[1:30:12] funny

[1:30:12] it

[1:30:12] gets

[1:30:12] so

[1:30:13] anyway

[1:30:14] it

[1:30:14] just

[1:30:14] didn't

[1:30:14] work

[1:30:15] for

[1:30:15] me

[1:30:15] but

[1:30:15] Dan

[1:30:15] if

[1:30:15] it

[1:30:15] worked

[1:30:15] for

[1:30:16] you

[1:30:16] more

[1:30:16] power

[1:30:17] to

[1:30:17] you

[1:30:17] any

[1:30:17] joy

[1:30:18] you

[1:30:30] it

Stuart Wellington

[1:30:30] I feel

[1:30:31] like

[1:30:32] the

[1:30:32] most

Dan McCoy

[1:30:32] actively

[1:30:32] frustrated

[1:30:33] by

[1:30:33] it

Stuart Wellington

[1:30:33] yeah

[1:30:34] I mean

[1:30:34] it's

[1:30:34] there's

[1:30:35] there's a movie

[1:30:36] where

[1:30:37] it is so

[1:30:38] overly scripted

[1:30:40] at times

[1:30:40] there's so

[1:30:41] many

[1:30:41] voiceovers

[1:30:42] there's this

[1:30:43] like

[1:30:44] it feels

[1:30:46] like the

[1:30:46] movie

[1:30:46] is treating

[1:30:47] me like

[1:30:47] a baby

[1:30:48] even to

[1:30:48] the point

[1:30:49] that like

[1:30:49] it's

[1:30:50] it has

[1:30:51] to force

[1:30:52] this like

[1:30:53] love of

[1:30:53] these characters

[1:30:54] on me

[1:30:55] which

[1:30:55] is not

[1:30:56] earned

[1:30:56] they don't

[1:30:57] do anything

[1:30:57] that would

[1:30:57] make me

[1:30:58] endeared

[1:30:58] to them

[1:30:59] or them

[1:31:00] endeared

[1:31:00] to me

[1:31:01] and

[1:31:01] yeah

[1:31:02] and like

[1:31:03] the movie

[1:31:03] is constantly

[1:31:04] telling

[1:31:04] rather than

[1:31:05] showing

[1:31:05] and then

[1:31:06] when it's

[1:31:06] showing

[1:31:06] it

[1:31:07] is doing

[1:31:08] too much

[1:31:08] like

[1:31:08] it just

[1:31:09] it's too

[1:31:09] much

[1:31:10] doesn't

[1:31:10] know what

[1:31:10] it's doing

[1:31:11] it's too

[1:31:11] sappy

[1:31:12] doesn't

[1:31:12] earn

[1:31:13] anything

[1:31:13] and it's

[1:31:15] not funny

[1:31:15] or exciting

[1:31:16] yep

[1:31:18] that's

[1:31:19] that's me

[1:31:19] that's a

[1:31:20] bad

[1:31:20] that's a

[1:31:21] definition

[1:31:21] of a

[1:31:21] bad

[1:31:22] bad

[1:31:22] I'm

[1:31:29] Jordan

S4

[1:31:29] I'm Crusiola

[1:31:29] the host of

[1:31:30] Feeling Scene

[1:31:31] where we talk about

[1:31:31] the movie characters

[1:31:32] that make us feel seen

[1:31:34] and I'm the show's producer

[1:31:35] Marissa

[1:31:35] Jordan

[1:31:36] you've interviewed

[1:31:37] so many directors

[1:31:37] actors

[1:31:38] writers

[1:31:38] film critics

[1:31:39] and I like to play

[1:31:40] this little game

[1:31:41] where I take a sip of coffee

[1:31:42] every time someone says

[1:31:44] that's such a great question

[1:31:45] that's such a fabulous question

[1:31:47] or they tell you how smart you are

[1:31:49] I think that you are rather brilliant

[1:31:51] and of course the big one is

[1:31:53] when they cry unexpectedly

[1:31:55] yes yes

Dan McCoy

[1:31:55] Jordan I don't want to cry

S4

[1:31:56] I wasn't expecting to cry

[1:31:59] I mean it makes me kind of want to cry

[1:32:01] Feeling Scene comes out every Thursday

[1:32:03] on MaximumFun.org

[1:32:05] listen already

[1:32:06] what are you waiting for?

[1:32:07] Jordan

[1:32:07] that's such a great question

[1:32:09] Hal Loveland here

[1:32:12] with breaking news

[1:32:13] on a revolutionary form of entertainment

[1:32:15] professional wrestling

[1:32:16] for more we go to our correspondent

[1:32:19] Danielle Radford

[1:32:20] professional wrestling is the craze

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[1:32:24] featuring fisticuffs

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Dan McCoy

[1:32:27] but who can help us make sense

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[1:32:31] Lindsay Kelk has the answer

S4

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Dan McCoy

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[1:34:29] Elliot

[1:34:30] I think you have

[1:34:30] a Jumbotron

[1:34:31] to read

Elliott Kalan

[1:34:32] I do

[1:34:33] I have a Jumbotron

[1:34:34] to read

[1:34:34] Dan very cleverly

[1:34:35] gave it to me

[1:34:36] when I was losing

[1:34:37] my voice

[1:34:37] but let's see

[1:34:38] if I can still do it

[1:34:39] this is now

[1:34:39] a sexy Jumbotron

[1:34:40] as we've established

[1:34:41] okay

[1:34:42] this message is for Graham

[1:34:43] and the message

[1:34:44] is from Tyler

[1:34:45] and it says

[1:34:46] dear Graham

[1:34:47] congratulations

[1:34:47] on being born

[1:34:49] it was so cool

[1:34:50] to finally get to meet you

[1:34:51] even if you were

[1:34:52] pretty low energy

[1:34:52] about the whole thing

[1:34:53] I can't wait to see

[1:34:54] what kind of hilarious

[1:34:55] sarcastic kid

[1:34:56] you'll grow up to be

[1:34:56] considering who your mom is

[1:34:58] I think it's just

[1:34:59] a matter of time

[1:34:59] love

[1:35:00] your Uncle Tyler

[1:35:01] what a sweet

[1:35:02] Jumbotron

[1:35:02] I really love that

[1:35:04] someday

[1:35:05] Graham will grow up

[1:35:07] and listen to that

[1:35:08] hopefully not for a while

[1:35:09] because this was a pretty

[1:35:10] I apologize

[1:35:11] a pretty not

[1:35:11] not safe for kids

[1:35:12] podcast

[1:35:13] with all my swearing

[1:35:14] and my incredibly sexy voice

[1:35:16] but Graham

[1:35:17] when you listen to this

[1:35:19] 18 years from now or so

[1:35:20] happy being born day

Dan McCoy

[1:35:22] happy being born day

[1:35:23] indeed

[1:35:24] do either of you

[1:35:26] have any other things

[1:35:28] to mention

[1:35:29] before we move on

[1:35:29] I'd like to

[1:35:31] oh

[1:35:31] I would like to

Stuart Wellington

[1:35:35] as always

[1:35:36] I'm gonna

[1:35:36] oh

[1:35:37] Alex just

[1:35:38] delete Elliot's

[1:35:39] entire audio file

[1:35:40] no audio from Elliot

[1:35:41] this whole episode

[1:35:42] great

[1:35:42] so

[1:35:43] I am gonna

[1:35:45] recommend

[1:35:45] I'm gonna recommend

[1:35:47] going to the bars

[1:35:48] I own

[1:35:49] be a very short episode

[1:35:50] I mean

[1:35:51] our audio track

[1:35:53] is gonna stay the same

[1:35:54] yeah

[1:35:55] it's fair fair

[1:35:56] just be long periods

Dan McCoy

[1:35:58] of silence

[1:35:58] it'll be

[1:35:59] the jazz

[1:36:00] of Flophouse

Stuart Wellington

[1:36:01] yeah yeah

[1:36:01] it's a vibe

[1:36:03] so

[1:36:04] yeah

[1:36:05] go to my bars

[1:36:06] Hinterland's bar

[1:36:06] Minnie's bar

[1:36:07] I might be there

[1:36:08] I might not

[1:36:08] if I'm not there

[1:36:09] when you go by

[1:36:09] I am sorry

[1:36:10] I can't always be there

[1:36:12] but

[1:36:13] yeah

[1:36:14] it's always nice

[1:36:14] to see folks

Dan McCoy

[1:36:15] you got miniatures

[1:36:16] to paint

Stuart Wellington

[1:36:16] I got miniatures

[1:36:17] to paint

[1:36:18] I gotta go out

[1:36:18] to fancy dinners

[1:36:19] with Dan

[1:36:20] like we did this week

[1:36:21] where we ate sushi

[1:36:22] what

[1:36:23] it was so nice

[1:36:24] what a date

Dan McCoy

[1:36:25] just a couple of dudes

[1:36:27] and some raw fish

[1:36:29] what was your

Stuart Wellington

[1:36:29] what was your favorite

[1:36:30] bite Dan

[1:36:30] I like the

[1:36:33] I like the fishy pieces

Dan McCoy

[1:36:34] oh

[1:36:35] those are good pieces

[1:36:36] something fishy

[1:36:37] and oily

[1:36:37] for me

[1:36:37] thanks

[1:36:38] I like that

[1:36:39] like that cheek

[1:36:40] give me that

[1:36:40] the fatty tuna

[1:36:42] cheek

[1:36:42] I like the fatty cheek

[1:36:44] as long time listeners know

[1:36:46] hey Elliot

[1:36:46] what do you want to say

[1:36:48] uh oh

Elliott Kalan

[1:36:49] Graham you'll get that joke

[1:36:50] when you're older

[1:36:50] so this is a

[1:36:52] I wanted to say

[1:36:54] I've been talking a lot

[1:36:55] on this podcast

[1:36:55] about

[1:36:56] Maniac of New York

[1:36:57] Don't Call It a Comeback

[1:36:58] my new series

[1:36:58] from Aftershock

[1:36:59] it was originally

[1:37:00] scheduled for

[1:37:01] December 7th

[1:37:02] unfortunately

[1:37:02] it has been delayed

[1:37:04] when it's coming out

[1:37:05] yet

[1:37:06] possibly in January

[1:37:06] but keep your eyes

[1:37:08] peeled

[1:37:08] I will of course

[1:37:09] announce the release date

[1:37:10] when I know it

[1:37:11] but that book

[1:37:12] is still going to come out

[1:37:13] and I hope

[1:37:14] you can enjoy it

[1:37:15] I'm very excited about it

[1:37:16] so that's

[1:37:16] Maniac of New York

[1:37:17] Don't Call It a Comeback

[1:37:18] just kind of be ready for it

[1:37:19] just kind of be ready

[1:37:20] at any moment

[1:37:21] to go run out

[1:37:21] and get it

Dan McCoy

[1:37:22] just be ready for it

[1:37:24] that's what Elliot

[1:37:25] recommends

[1:37:25] in life

[1:37:27] letters

[1:37:28] from listeners

[1:37:29] like you

[1:37:31] here they come

[1:37:32] walking down the street

[1:37:34] get the funniest

[1:37:36] letters from

[1:37:37] letters from

[1:37:38] all the listeners

[1:37:38] we meet

[1:37:39] or don't meet

[1:37:40] hey hey

[1:37:41] it's the flop house

[1:37:42] see

[1:37:43] what a twist

[1:37:44] I sing that one

[1:37:44] okay

[1:37:45] I love it

Stuart Wellington

[1:37:46] wait that was you singing

[1:37:48] I thought that was Elliot singing

Dan McCoy

[1:37:49] I know

[1:37:49] we've trained you well

[1:37:51] this is

Stuart Wellington

[1:37:51] and I thought it was

[1:37:52] Mickey Dolenz

Dan McCoy

[1:37:53] from Joan

[1:37:54] last name withheld

[1:37:55] who writes

[1:37:56] Dan describing

[1:37:58] Moonfall

[1:37:58] in 4DX

[1:37:59] got me fondly

[1:38:00] reminiscing

[1:38:01] about the time

[1:38:01] my favorite movie ever

[1:38:02] Gremlins

[1:38:03] was briefly

[1:38:04] re-released

[1:38:05] into 4DX

[1:38:07] cinemas

[1:38:08] Joe Dante's

[1:38:09] zany

[1:38:10] creature feature

[1:38:11] classic

[1:38:11] turned out to be

[1:38:12] a perfect fit

[1:38:13] for the gimmick

[1:38:13] laden format

[1:38:14] I recoiled

[1:38:16] in solidarity

[1:38:16] with Gizmo

[1:38:17] as we were both

[1:38:18] splashed with water

[1:38:19] we knew we shouldn't

[1:38:20] be touching

[1:38:21] I held on

[1:38:22] for dear life

[1:38:23] as I was

[1:38:24] violently thrust

[1:38:27] about

[1:38:27] by my erratic

[1:38:28] mechanical chair

[1:38:29] just as Mrs.

[1:38:30] Deagle did

[1:38:31] in her final moments

[1:38:32] and I now

[1:38:34] have first hand

[1:38:35] knowledge of what

[1:38:35] a Gremlin attack

[1:38:36] really feels like

[1:38:37] assuming it feels like

[1:38:38] getting mildly

[1:38:39] poked in the back

[1:38:40] of course

[1:38:41] the highlight of the

[1:38:42] evening was the

[1:38:42] snow white scene

[1:38:43] when my gyrating

[1:38:44] seat gave me

[1:38:45] no choice

[1:38:45] but to bounce

[1:38:46] up and down

[1:38:46] in rhythm

[1:38:47] with the

[1:38:47] gremlins

[1:38:47] rowdy

[1:38:48] movie theater

[1:38:49] antics

[1:38:49] it felt like

[1:38:50] the perfect

[1:38:51] 40x moment

[1:38:52] one where

[1:38:52] the action

[1:38:53] on screen

[1:38:53] was actually

[1:38:54] bleeding out

[1:38:54] into the audience

[1:38:55] in those few

[1:38:56] brief minutes

[1:38:57] we were all

[1:38:58] of us

[1:38:58] gremlins

[1:38:59] my question

[1:39:00] for you guys

[1:39:01] is this

[1:39:01] are there any

[1:39:02] favorite movies

[1:39:03] of yours

[1:39:03] that you'd like

[1:39:04] to see

[1:39:04] given the

[1:39:04] 40x treatment

[1:39:05] and if so

[1:39:06] how would you

[1:39:07] want to see

[1:39:08] those in theater

[1:39:09] effects applied

[1:39:10] Elliot

[1:39:10] would you ever

[1:39:11] want to feel

[1:39:12] like you were

[1:39:12] rumbling down

[1:39:13] the tracks

[1:39:14] of the hijacked

[1:39:15] Pelham 123

[1:39:16] Dan

[1:39:17] could the sense

[1:39:18] of salmon and

[1:39:19] honey wafting

[1:39:20] by your nose

[1:39:21] make you love

[1:39:21] the country bears

[1:39:22] even more

[1:39:23] Stu

[1:39:24] where's this going

[1:39:25] I'm not sure

[1:39:26] you could ever

[1:39:26] safely replicate

[1:39:27] the sensation

[1:39:28] of getting your

[1:39:29] ding dong

[1:39:29] ripped off

[1:39:30] but there must

[1:39:30] be other ways

[1:39:31] to enhance

[1:39:33] the castle freak

[1:39:34] experience

Elliott Kalan

[1:39:35] maybe just pull

[1:39:36] out some pubes

[1:39:36] that could do it

Dan McCoy

[1:39:37] yeah

[1:39:37] your dream

[1:39:38] I call them

[1:39:39] stoobes

[1:39:40] that's Stu's

[1:39:41] version of

[1:39:42] Vore

[1:39:42] I can never

[1:39:43] truly know

[1:39:45] what it is

[1:39:45] to have my

[1:39:46] ding dong

[1:39:46] ripped up

[1:39:46] anyway

[1:39:47] excited to hear

[1:39:48] all the

[1:39:48] awesome ideas

[1:39:50] you flop

[1:39:50] flop

[1:39:51] imagineers

[1:39:52] come up with

[1:39:52] see you in

[1:39:53] the fourth

[1:39:54] dimension

[1:39:55] says Joan

Stuart Wellington

[1:39:56] so just to

[1:39:57] pull back

[1:39:57] the curtain

[1:39:58] Dan just

[1:39:58] sent us

[1:39:59] the question

[1:39:59] rather than

[1:40:00] the entire

[1:40:01] letter

[1:40:02] you don't

[1:40:03] have to

[1:40:03] apologize

[1:40:03] but it's

[1:40:04] funny because

[1:40:05] the first

[1:40:05] thing that

[1:40:06] came to my

[1:40:06] head was

[1:40:06] Gremlins 2

[1:40:07] no question

[1:40:09] Gremlins 2

[1:40:10] would be

[1:40:10] great

[1:40:10] but other

[1:40:11] than that

[1:40:12] I don't

[1:40:12] know

[1:40:12] Tango

[1:40:12] and Cash

[1:40:13] would be

[1:40:13] really great

[1:40:14] you'd get

[1:40:14] water sprayed

[1:40:15] in your face

[1:40:16] money thrown

[1:40:16] all over you

[1:40:17] cocaine

[1:40:17] yeah

[1:40:18] cocaine sprayed

[1:40:20] out of you

[1:40:20] yeah sure

[1:40:21] why not

[1:40:21] check balance

Dan McCoy

[1:40:22] etc

[1:40:23] I mean

[1:40:23] I think

[1:40:24] that that

[1:40:24] captures

[1:40:24] the truth

[1:40:25] about it

[1:40:25] is that

[1:40:26] there has

[1:40:26] to be

[1:40:27] a certain

[1:40:27] goofiness

[1:40:29] like

[1:40:29] Jurassic Park

[1:40:30] would be amazing

Elliott Kalan

[1:40:31] I could see

[1:40:33] Jurassic Park

[1:40:33] being fun with it

[1:40:34] but yeah

[1:40:34] you're not

[1:40:34] going to want

[1:40:35] to watch

[1:40:35] like

[1:40:36] you're not

[1:40:38] going to want

[1:40:39] to watch

[1:40:39] like

[1:40:39] Kramer

[1:40:39] versus

[1:40:40] Kramer

[1:40:40] in 4DX

Dan McCoy

[1:40:41] you know

[1:40:42] I was thinking

[1:40:43] of something

[1:40:43] for me

[1:40:43] like

[1:40:44] Terminator 2

[1:40:45] a movie

[1:40:45] that like

[1:40:46] you know

[1:40:46] a thrill

[1:40:48] park ride

[1:40:49] but one

[1:40:49] that I

[1:40:49] have seen

[1:40:51] so many

[1:40:51] times

[1:40:51] that I guess

[1:40:52] I'm looking

[1:40:53] at 4DX

[1:40:54] as a chance

[1:40:55] for me

[1:40:55] to feel

[1:40:55] it anew

Stuart Wellington

[1:40:56] you know

[1:40:57] in a different

[1:40:58] way

[1:40:58] maybe have

[1:40:59] some hot

[1:41:00] water

Dan McCoy

[1:41:00] sprayed on

[1:41:01] me

[1:41:01] when he

[1:41:01] sinks

[1:41:02] into the

[1:41:03] lava

Stuart Wellington

[1:41:03] like

[1:41:04] I feel

[1:41:04] like

[1:41:05] I might

[1:41:06] pick a movie

[1:41:07] that's one

[1:41:07] of my

[1:41:07] favorites

[1:41:08] that I've

[1:41:08] seen

[1:41:08] so many

[1:41:09] times

[1:41:09] like

[1:41:10] Big Trouble

[1:41:10] in Little

[1:41:10] China

[1:41:11] I feel

[1:41:11] like

[1:41:11] is a

[1:41:12] big

[1:41:12] goofy

[1:41:12] fun

[1:41:13] movie

[1:41:13] that'd

[1:41:14] be

[1:41:14] great

[1:41:14] for that

[1:41:15] a goofy

[1:41:16] movie

[1:41:16] did you

[1:41:18] recently

[1:41:18] watch

[1:41:19] the goofy

Dan McCoy

[1:41:19] movie

[1:41:19] I did

[1:41:20] actually

[1:41:20] recently

[1:41:21] watch

[1:41:21] most of

[1:41:22] the goofy

[1:41:22] movie

Dan McCoy

[1:41:22] I asked

Stuart Wellington

[1:41:22] as Dan

[1:41:23] was walking

[1:41:23] around

[1:41:23] clearly

[1:41:24] pitching

[1:41:24] a tent

[1:41:25] truth

Dan McCoy

[1:41:31] though

[1:41:31] there are

[1:41:31] some

[1:41:32] uncomfortably

[1:41:32] sexy

[1:41:33] like

[1:41:33] background

[1:41:34] in a

[1:41:35] goofy

[1:41:35] movie

[1:41:35] like

[1:41:36] it was

[1:41:36] in that

[1:41:37] like

[1:41:37] period

[1:41:37] where

[1:41:38] it's

[1:41:38] just

[1:41:38] like

[1:41:38] okay

[1:41:38] every

[1:41:39] supporting

[1:41:40] character

[1:41:41] is gonna

[1:41:42] have

[1:41:42] like

[1:41:43] weird

[1:41:43] like

[1:41:44] bouncy

[1:41:44] cartoon

[1:41:44] bosoms

[1:41:45] in the

[1:41:46] back

[1:41:46] anyway

[1:41:47] uh

[1:41:49] do we all

[1:41:50] answer

[1:41:50] this is

Elliott Kalan

[1:41:51] having a

[1:41:51] good

[1:41:51] time

[1:41:52] you know

[1:41:52] yeah

[1:41:53] sure

[1:41:53] this is

[1:41:54] gonna

[1:41:54] be an

[1:41:54] unpopular

[1:41:54] answer

[1:41:54] this

[1:41:55] question

[1:41:55] i'm

[1:41:55] gonna

[1:41:55] say

[1:41:56] no

[1:41:56] there

[1:41:57] are

[1:41:57] no

[1:41:57] favorite

[1:41:57] movies

[1:41:58] of mine

[1:41:58] that i'd

[1:41:58] like to

[1:41:59] see

[1:41:59] in 4dx

[1:42:00] it's

[1:42:00] what you

[1:42:01] guys

[1:42:01] described

[1:42:02] sounds like

[1:42:02] it'd be

[1:42:02] super fun

[1:42:03] it's like

[1:42:03] the movie

[1:42:04] turns into

[1:42:04] a theme

[1:42:05] park ride

[1:42:05] it's not

[1:42:06] my preferred

[1:42:06] way to

[1:42:07] experience

[1:42:08] movies

[1:42:08] yeah

[1:42:08] so

[1:42:09] i'm

[1:42:10] gonna

[1:42:10] say

[1:42:10] considering

[1:42:11] the closest

[1:42:11] i think

[1:42:12] i've come

[1:42:12] to it

[1:42:12] since i've

[1:42:13] never seen

[1:42:13] 4dx

[1:42:13] is going

[1:42:14] on the

[1:42:14] guardians

[1:42:15] of the

[1:42:15] galaxy

[1:42:15] breakout

[1:42:16] ride

[1:42:17] in uh

[1:42:18] at

[1:42:18] disneyland

[1:42:18] where

[1:42:19] there is

[1:42:20] a kind

[1:42:24] of the

[1:42:25] air

[1:42:25] and dropped

[1:42:25] again

[1:42:26] because it's

[1:42:26] just the old

[1:42:26] tower

[1:42:27] that they've

[1:42:28] turned guardians

[1:42:28] of the galaxy

[1:42:28] and what's

[1:42:29] happening in the

[1:42:30] guardians of the galaxy

[1:42:30] movie is almost

[1:42:31] incomprehensible

[1:42:32] like you really

[1:42:33] can't pay attention

[1:42:33] to it

[1:42:34] and so that's

[1:42:34] an extreme

[1:42:35] example i know

[1:42:35] it's minimal

[1:42:36] content and

[1:42:37] maximum being

[1:42:37] thrown around

[1:42:38] but i like to

[1:42:39] just sit back

[1:42:40] and get absorbed

[1:42:40] into a movie

[1:42:41] you know

[1:42:41] as much as

Stuart Wellington

[1:42:42] it would be

[1:42:42] i just texted

[1:42:43] my my buddy

[1:42:44] jim cameron

[1:42:45] and told him

[1:42:46] that you

[1:42:46] aren't into

[1:42:46] movies being

[1:42:47] turned into

[1:42:47] theme park

[1:42:48] rides and he

[1:42:48] said he's

[1:42:49] driving over

[1:42:49] to your

[1:42:49] house to

[1:42:50] beat your

[1:42:50] ass

Dan McCoy

[1:42:51] oh no

[1:42:52] i was at

[1:42:54] the tower

[1:42:54] of terror

[1:42:55] in disney

[1:42:56] world in

[1:42:56] florida

[1:42:57] this year

[1:42:58] and uh

[1:42:59] i it's

[1:43:00] still tower

[1:43:00] of terror

[1:43:01] there it

[1:43:01] has not

[1:43:01] had the

[1:43:02] guardian

[1:43:02] skin put

[1:43:03] on it

[1:43:03] and um

[1:43:04] i it

[1:43:05] was my

[1:43:06] least

[1:43:06] favorite

[1:43:07] you showed

[1:43:07] up dressed

Stuart Wellington

[1:43:08] up as

[1:43:08] drax

[1:43:08] which was

[1:43:09] kind

[1:43:09] of awkward

Dan McCoy

[1:43:09] yeah

[1:43:10] i i

[1:43:11] i was

[1:43:12] like

[1:43:12] oh i'm

[1:43:13] too old

[1:43:13] for the

[1:43:13] tower

[1:43:13] of terror

[1:43:14] now

[1:43:14] because i

[1:43:14] feel like

[1:43:15] i'm going

[1:43:15] to black

Elliott Kalan

[1:43:16] out when

[1:43:16] it drops

[1:43:17] oh that's

[1:43:18] not good

[1:43:18] yeah that's

[1:43:19] not good

[1:43:19] i still

[1:43:20] enjoy the

[1:43:20] i enjoy

[1:43:21] the being

[1:43:21] dropped part

[1:43:22] of the

[1:43:22] ride

[1:43:22] because it

[1:43:22] reminds me

[1:43:23] of when i

[1:43:23] was a baby

[1:43:23] i just

Stuart Wellington

[1:43:24] i just

[1:43:24] recently went

[1:43:25] to universal

[1:43:26] studios

[1:43:26] with flop

[1:43:27] house friend

[1:43:28] jordan

[1:43:28] morris

[1:43:29] what what

[1:43:29] and we

[1:43:29] went to

[1:43:30] what we

[1:43:30] do

[1:43:31] let me

[1:43:31] give you

[1:43:31] the full

[1:43:31] rundown

[1:43:32] jurassic

[1:43:32] world

[1:43:32] dominion

[1:43:33] ride

[1:43:33] that was

[1:43:34] super

[1:43:34] fun

[1:43:34] got splashed

[1:43:35] went to

[1:43:36] the

[1:43:36] minions

[1:43:42] and rocked

[1:43:43] went to

[1:43:44] the mummy

[1:43:46] ride

[1:43:48] and you

[1:43:48] know that's

[1:43:49] the thing

[1:43:49] with universal

[1:43:51] splashing

[1:43:52] although i

[1:43:52] got splashed

[1:43:52] with sand

[1:43:53] the thing

[1:43:53] about

[1:43:54] universal

[1:43:54] i know

Elliott Kalan

[1:43:54] you said

[1:43:56] the mummy

[1:43:56] and then

[1:43:56] we're

[1:43:57] restarting

[1:43:57] and say

[1:43:57] the mummy

[1:43:58] but i

[1:43:58] wish the

[1:43:58] name of

[1:43:59] the ride

[1:43:59] was the

[1:43:59] mummy

[1:43:59] colon the

[1:44:00] mummy

[1:44:00] i think

[1:44:01] that'd be

[1:44:01] amazing

[1:44:01] i went on

[1:44:02] the mummy

[1:44:03] the mummy

[1:44:03] ride

Stuart Wellington

[1:44:03] i feel

[1:44:04] like the

[1:44:05] rule of

[1:44:05] thumb

[1:44:05] there is

[1:44:06] the older

[1:44:07] like least

[1:44:08] relevant

[1:44:08] the property

[1:44:10] the cooler

[1:44:11] the ride

[1:44:11] has got

[1:44:11] to be

[1:44:12] like it's

[1:44:12] got to

[1:44:13] survive

[1:44:13] this long

[1:44:14] yeah

Elliott Kalan

[1:44:14] like for

[1:44:15] them to

[1:44:15] still have

[1:44:15] a water

[1:44:16] world

[1:44:16] stunt

[1:44:16] show

[1:44:17] it must

[1:44:17] be

[1:44:17] fantastic

[1:44:18] incredible

Dan McCoy

[1:44:19] and speaking

[1:44:19] of james

[1:44:20] cameron

[1:44:20] the avatar

[1:44:21] ride

[1:44:21] at disney

[1:44:22] like animal

[1:44:23] kingdom

[1:44:23] or whatever

[1:44:24] the hell

[1:44:24] it's called

[1:44:24] was astounding

[1:44:26] like a

[1:44:27] movie that

[1:44:27] you know

[1:44:28] i am not

[1:44:29] going to be

[1:44:29] one of those

[1:44:30] people arguing

[1:44:30] it had no

[1:44:31] footprint

[1:44:31] because i think

[1:44:32] that's absurd

[1:44:33] and i think

[1:44:33] it had

[1:44:33] a different

[1:44:35] kind of

[1:44:35] footprint

[1:44:36] than some

[1:44:36] movies

[1:44:37] yeah don't

[1:44:37] bet against

[1:44:38] don't bet

[1:44:39] against jim

[1:44:40] cameron

[1:44:40] i don't think

[1:44:41] you should

[1:44:41] bet against

[1:44:42] jim cameron

[1:44:42] but like the

[1:44:43] avatar ride

[1:44:43] is astounding

[1:44:45] uh anyway

[1:44:46] i think i think

[1:44:48] didn't richard

[1:44:49] kind swear by

[1:44:50] his eyes lit

[1:44:52] up as soon

[1:44:53] as the avatar

[1:44:53] ride was brought

Elliott Kalan

[1:44:54] up i'm actually

[1:44:55] i'm actually going

[1:44:56] to universal

[1:44:56] studios soon

[1:44:57] for my older

[1:44:57] son's birthday

[1:44:58] what was it

[1:44:59] about the

[1:44:59] minions ride

[1:45:00] that was not

[1:45:00] fun steward

[1:45:00] since i'm

[1:45:01] almost certainly

[1:45:02] gonna have to

[1:45:02] go on that

Stuart Wellington

[1:45:02] well the

[1:45:03] the wait

[1:45:04] is super

[1:45:04] long because

[1:45:05] everybody wants

[1:45:05] to go on it

[1:45:06] and then it

[1:45:06] is one of

[1:45:07] those rides

[1:45:07] where a lot

[1:45:08] of it was

[1:45:09] sitting in like

[1:45:10] a movie theater

[1:45:11] seat and then

[1:45:11] you just kind of

[1:45:12] move up and

[1:45:12] down and watch

[1:45:13] a movie

[1:45:13] uh which

[1:45:14] wasn't great

[1:45:15] that's perfect

[1:45:15] for my kids

[1:45:16] 100% if you

[1:45:18] go

[1:45:18] definitely go on the

[1:45:19] studio tour

[1:45:20] because they

[1:45:20] have a section

[1:45:21] of the uh

[1:45:22] scenery from

[1:45:23] nope the

[1:45:24] like jupiter's

[1:45:25] claim stuff

[1:45:26] and it's

[1:45:26] it's incredible

[1:45:27] it was so

[1:45:28] great

[1:45:28] my kids are

[1:45:29] gonna love that

[1:45:29] they're super

[1:45:30] into nope

[1:45:30] they love

[1:45:31] nope

[1:45:32] i mean there's a

[1:45:33] fast and furious

[1:45:34] thing for them

[1:45:34] because they love

[1:45:35] that shit right

[1:45:35] because they like

[1:45:36] being part of a

[1:45:37] family

[1:45:37] they love

[1:45:37] anything that's

[1:45:37] about family

[1:45:38] yeah they love

Dan McCoy

[1:45:39] family uh we got

[1:45:40] one more letter

[1:45:41] it's from kelly

Elliott Kalan

[1:45:42] this this this

[1:45:43] shows you wait

[1:45:43] this shows you

[1:45:44] how i've

[1:45:44] indoctrinated my

[1:45:45] kids is we're

[1:45:46] going to universal

[1:45:46] studios my

[1:45:47] younger son is

[1:45:47] four he's like

[1:45:48] are the universal

[1:45:49] monsters gonna be

[1:45:50] there and i'm

[1:45:51] like i know they

[1:45:52] do stuff around

[1:45:52] halloween but i

[1:45:53] don't know if

[1:45:54] these almost a

[1:45:55] hundred year old

[1:45:55] properties are

[1:45:56] still like big

[1:45:57] in the parks but

[1:45:58] that's all he

[1:45:58] wants to see the

[1:45:59] minions and uh

[1:46:00] the creature from

[1:46:00] the black lagoon

[1:46:01] doesn't want to

[1:46:01] see the psycho

[1:46:02] house they don't

[1:46:03] know what psycho

[1:46:04] is okay this i

[1:46:05] was telling the

[1:46:06] story this morning

[1:46:07] when i was a kid

[1:46:07] we went to the

[1:46:08] universal studios

[1:46:08] in florida where

[1:46:09] they still have a

[1:46:10] studio tour but

[1:46:11] it's obviously fake

[1:46:12] and they're like

[1:46:12] there's the psycho

[1:46:13] house and it's

[1:46:14] like no it's not

[1:46:15] they didn't shoot

[1:46:15] psycho in florida

[1:46:16] like this is the

[1:46:17] whole point is to

[1:46:18] see the real house

[1:46:18] this is a fake

[1:46:19] psycho house yeah

Dan McCoy

[1:46:20] kelly last name

[1:46:22] withheld writes

[1:46:22] hello peaches

Elliott Kalan

[1:46:23] kelly kapowski

[1:46:24] fictional character i

Dan McCoy

[1:46:25] wanted to tell you

[1:46:26] about a real freak i

[1:46:27] met years ago in a

[1:46:28] college cell biology

[1:46:30] class now one of my

[1:46:32] best friends the

[1:46:33] first day of class

Elliott Kalan

[1:46:34] look this better be

[1:46:36] connected to topeka

[1:46:36] kansas right i don't

[1:46:37] know why it involves

[1:46:38] our podcast well we'll

Dan McCoy

[1:46:41] see we'll see now one

[1:46:42] of my best friends the

[1:46:44] first day of class this

[1:46:45] guy pulled out a lime

[1:46:46] from his messenger bag

[1:46:48] peeled it and started

[1:46:49] eating it in class oh

[1:46:51] that's a lime a lime i

Elliott Kalan

[1:46:53] misheard you i

[1:46:54] thought you said

[1:46:54] line and i'm like of

[1:46:55] coke right in the

Dan McCoy

[1:46:56] class now a lime uh

[1:46:58] the professor stopped

[1:46:59] mid-sentence and said

[1:47:01] excuse me is that a

[1:47:03] lime it was we all

[1:47:05] gasped he ate a whole

[1:47:07] lime every day by

[1:47:09] the end of the year i

[1:47:10] think we'd all tried

[1:47:11] at least a slice of

[1:47:12] raw unaccompanied

[1:47:13] lime the professor did

[1:47:15] as well those tart

[1:47:16] little bastards really

[1:47:17] brought us together in

[1:47:18] such a beautiful way

[1:47:19] thanks thanks for

[1:47:21] keeping me company

[1:47:22] during my graduate

[1:47:22] degree you three are

[1:47:24] very cool kelly name

[1:47:26] withheld okay so the

Stuart Wellington

[1:47:27] relationship to our

[1:47:29] podcast is it like a

[1:47:30] third man hairy lime

[1:47:32] type thing she thought

Dan McCoy

[1:47:34] we all had scurvy and

[1:47:36] needed oh yeah

[1:47:37] encouragement is it

Elliott Kalan

[1:47:40] because i did think i

[1:47:41] had it once but i

[1:47:42] didn't church that i

[1:47:42] didn't i think that

[1:47:43] there's probably

[1:47:44] getting middle end on

Dan McCoy

[1:47:45] that one i'm guessing

[1:47:46] this related to the

[1:47:47] fruit brutes episode

[1:47:48] or whatever oh right

Stuart Wellington

[1:47:50] right right the flop

[1:47:51] house fruit group yeah

Dan McCoy

[1:47:52] our spin-off podcast

[1:47:53] and we maybe maybe we

[1:47:54] talked about whether

[1:47:55] or not someone had

[1:47:56] ever eaten the lime

[1:47:58] although i kind of

[1:47:58] enjoyed the letter

[1:47:59] most play back void of

[1:48:00] any context yeah

[1:48:01] um so that was about

[1:48:06] this fucking thing and

[1:48:07] uh of course having

[1:48:09] talked about limes we

[1:48:10] traditionally now go on

[1:48:12] to the final segment

[1:48:13] which is it's called

Stuart Wellington

[1:48:14] dan pulls up letterbox

[1:48:15] and remembers what he

Dan McCoy

[1:48:17] wants yeah what did i

[1:48:17] see lately what can i

[1:48:19] possibly recommend

[1:48:21] honestly i've seen a

[1:48:21] lot of stuff lately

[1:48:22] that i was more mixed

[1:48:24] on this is

[1:48:25] recommendations by the

[1:48:25] way but uh i did

[1:48:27] watch and enjoy rolling

[1:48:28] thunder from 1977 a

[1:48:30] movie i'd never seen

[1:48:31] before starring uh

[1:48:33] william devane uh and

Elliott Kalan

[1:48:36] a very young you're so

[1:48:38] devane tommy lee jones

[1:48:40] you probably think you

[1:48:40] starred in rolling

[1:48:41] thunder you're so

[1:48:43] devane i mainly know

[1:48:44] william devane from

Stuart Wellington

[1:48:45] what what are they

[1:48:46] reverse mortgage

[1:48:46] commercials yeah

[1:48:47] commercials on fox

[1:48:48] news wait and it

Elliott Kalan

[1:48:49] goes you were also in

[1:48:50] phenom phenom the abc

[1:48:53] sitcom phenom with

[1:48:55] judith light he's still

[1:48:56] trying he's his voice

Dan McCoy

[1:48:57] is fucked up and he's

[1:48:58] still trying he's on

[1:48:59] 24 i think he was one

[1:49:00] of the presidents on

[1:49:02] 24 he's been in tons

[1:49:03] of stuff yeah um

[1:49:04] forever well i'm

[1:49:05] trying saying where

[1:49:06] stewart might think of

[1:49:07] him um i don't know

[1:49:09] i don't know whether

[1:49:09] stewart even watched

[1:49:10] 24 i'm just making

[1:49:11] guesses he's making

[1:49:12] 24 hours the show

[1:49:13] yeah yeah the show

[1:49:16] about a man with a

[1:49:16] no bladder um it's

[1:49:19] it's rolling thunder

[1:49:20] the thing about rolling

[1:49:22] thunder is it's a it's

[1:49:24] a revenge movie where

[1:49:26] you know someone's

[1:49:27] family is killed but

[1:49:29] it's not the

[1:49:30] traditional sort of

[1:49:31] like we're fridging

[1:49:32] these characters

[1:49:33] killing is a much

[1:49:34] sadder movie the

[1:49:35] script was by paul

[1:49:37] schrader it takes

[1:49:38] the time

[1:49:39] director of heartbeeps

[1:49:40] yeah yeah it's a it's

[1:49:41] a movie that takes

[1:49:42] like the main character

[1:49:43] is a uh is a

[1:49:46] prisoner of war who's

[1:49:47] been returned his

[1:49:48] family has moved on

[1:49:49] without him so there's

[1:49:51] like already the

[1:49:52] sadness and then he

[1:49:54] loses his family and

[1:49:55] it's less of sort of

[1:49:57] the shallow motivation

[1:49:58] that a lot of revenge

[1:49:59] movies have and more

[1:50:00] that this was the one

[1:50:02] thread connecting him

[1:50:03] to sanity that has

[1:50:04] been severed and he

[1:50:06] takes revenge and it's

[1:50:07] just interesting to see

[1:50:08] a 1970s action uh

[1:50:11] revenge thriller that

[1:50:12] is mostly about

[1:50:14] sadness and about

[1:50:15] like the revenge is

[1:50:16] not a cathartic you

[1:50:18] know like triumph it

[1:50:19] is just you know him

[1:50:21] spinning further in uh

[1:50:22] away from society and

[1:50:24] warmth uh so you know

[1:50:26] uh you know rolling

[1:50:27] thunder yeah you know

Stuart Wellington

[1:50:28] what they say about

[1:50:29] revenge first you got to

[1:50:30] uh dig two graves it

[1:50:31] makes an ass out of

[1:50:32] rev because the first

[1:50:34] one's probably gonna

[1:50:35] suck so you gotta dig

[1:50:36] two of them so the

[1:50:37] second one's good yeah

[1:50:38] because you've never

[1:50:39] dug a grave before

[1:50:40] it's like the first

[1:50:40] like the first pancake

[1:50:41] yeah um yeah

Dan McCoy

[1:50:43] do you have something

[1:50:44] to recommend well

[1:50:44] yeah i do oh

[1:50:46] keeping in the theme

Stuart Wellington

[1:50:47] i'm gonna recommend a

[1:50:49] french erotic thriller

[1:50:51] called double lover

[1:50:52] that's right double lover

[1:50:54] watch it uh it's a

[1:50:56] movie about a uh young

[1:50:57] woman who starts seeing

[1:50:59] her therapist and then

[1:51:00] she starts dating her

[1:51:01] therapist which i don't

[1:51:02] think is allowed and

[1:51:04] then she realizes that

[1:51:05] her uh her new

[1:51:07] boyfriend might just

[1:51:09] have a twin brother uh

[1:51:11] and he's also a

[1:51:13] therapist but he's got a

[1:51:14] very different style of

[1:51:16] therapy if you know

[1:51:17] what i mean and it

[1:51:18] gets weird from there

[1:51:19] folks i don't know

[1:51:20] what you mean well soon

[1:51:23] you will if you watch

[1:51:23] yeah soon you will if

[1:51:25] you watch a double lover

Elliott Kalan

[1:51:26] i gotta find out it's

[1:51:29] guys guys it's a weird

Stuart Wellington

[1:51:30] one speaking of weird

Elliott Kalan

[1:51:32] ones you know what it's

[1:51:34] almost the end of the

[1:51:34] year that means i gotta

[1:51:35] hurry to get in another

[1:51:36] check new wave and my

[1:51:37] recommendations before we

[1:51:39] go to 2023 gotta check

[1:51:41] them off your list

[1:51:41] uh it's elliot's

[1:51:44] it's elliot's checklist

Dan McCoy

[1:51:45] right elliot's checklist

Elliott Kalan

[1:51:46] is that's what it's

[1:51:47] called elliot's new wave

[1:51:48] checklist yep uh so put

[1:51:50] this on the checklist i

[1:51:51] want to recommend fruit

[1:51:52] of paradise this is

[1:51:53] directed by vera

[1:51:54] chitlova who also of

[1:51:55] course did daisies is

[1:51:56] that fruit a lime it is

[1:51:59] not a lime i hate to

[1:52:00] tell you otherwise that

[1:52:01] would have provided some

[1:52:02] reason for that letter to

[1:52:03] have existed and then be

[1:52:04] read on the show but no

[1:52:06] there's still no reason

[1:52:07] which is the beauty of

[1:52:08] the thing uh it's a real

[1:52:09] comic strip nancy type of

[1:52:11] surreal uh non-sequitur so

[1:52:12] anyway uh joseph and eva

[1:52:15] are a married couple who

[1:52:16] go on a vacation uh there

[1:52:18] and they've kind of lost

[1:52:19] the spark in their

[1:52:20] relationship eva becomes

[1:52:21] uh more and more

[1:52:22] intrigued by robert a man

[1:52:24] who as it turns out is

[1:52:26] probably a serial murderer

[1:52:27] and may be intending to

[1:52:29] murder her as well uh but

[1:52:30] there's larger implications

[1:52:32] to that the whole thing is

[1:52:33] more than anything else a

[1:52:34] kind of retelling of the

[1:52:35] adam and eve story uh in a

[1:52:37] very kind of semi-abstract

[1:52:40] way there's a lot of

[1:52:40] strange moments in it

[1:52:41] there's a lot of weird

[1:52:42] things it's a more

[1:52:43] straightforward plot than

[1:52:44] daisies uh gila was i

[1:52:46] think previous movie but

[1:52:48] it's still very uh strange

[1:52:51] uh but i find i found it

[1:52:52] very beautiful and very

[1:52:53] affecting uh the it's

[1:52:55] worth at the very least

[1:52:56] just seeing the first seven

[1:52:58] or eight minutes which

[1:52:59] are a kind of artsy telling

[1:53:02] of the real adam and eve

[1:53:03] story the original one and

[1:53:04] the imagery of it where

[1:53:05] they're kind of positing

[1:53:06] adam and eve as being a

[1:53:08] part of nature by

[1:53:09] literally flooding their

[1:53:10] images with psychedelic

[1:53:12] colors in a way that i had

[1:53:13] not really seen in a film

[1:53:14] before it's very artsy like

[1:53:16] i said it takes a while for

[1:53:17] the story to kick in but

[1:53:18] if you see nothing it's

[1:53:19] worth seeing that very

[1:53:20] opening just for kind of

[1:53:21] the beauty of it you know

[1:53:23] just the visual uh

[1:53:24] spectacle maybe crush like

[1:53:25] an edible and watch that

Dan McCoy

[1:53:26] shit yeah i'm sure and

Elliott Kalan

[1:53:27] then stick around for the

[1:53:28] rest of the movie too i

Dan McCoy

[1:53:29] don't know elliot i only

[1:53:30] watch fartsy things that's

[1:53:33] actually kind of true

[1:53:34] nothing artsy yeah this is

Elliott Kalan

[1:53:35] just artsy there's nothing

Dan McCoy

[1:53:37] fartsy in it uh then i

[1:53:38] guess how much how much

[1:53:40] fartsyness is what's the

[1:53:42] fq the fartsyness

[1:53:43] yeah i think and i'm also

Elliott Kalan

[1:53:44] just randy quake show up

[1:53:46] he doesn't i guess as my

[1:53:48] alternate recommendation

[1:53:49] it'll guess it'll be

[1:53:50] howard stern's butt bongo

[1:53:51] pay-per-view special i

[1:53:53] guess maybe that'll get into

[1:53:54] the fartsy stuff you're

[1:53:55] looking for yeah

Dan McCoy

[1:53:56] huh well guys we did it

[1:53:58] we did another episode of

[1:53:59] the flop house that's the

[1:54:00] podcast you just put in

[1:54:02] your ears for a couple

[1:54:03] hours um take it out in

[1:54:05] a second yeah you take

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[1:54:07] not before learning that

[1:54:08] we're part of the maximum

[1:54:09] fun podcasting network go

[1:54:11] to maximum fun dot org if

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[1:54:16] there there's a lot that

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Stuart Wellington

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[1:54:56] it hasn't happened yeah we're

[1:54:57] recording it soon um uh in

[1:55:00] dan we're gonna have some

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[1:55:03] you missed it and would like

[1:55:04] to watch it go over to my

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[1:55:06] it will have been archived

Dan McCoy

[1:55:08] but that's steward

[1:55:10] wellington that's my twitch

[1:55:11] channel so thanks for

[1:55:12] listening uh we'll see you

[1:55:14] next time for the flop house

[1:55:15] i've been dan mccoy i'm

Elliott Kalan

[1:55:17] steward wellington and i'll

[1:55:19] probably be elliot

[1:55:20] kalen unless i have to fake

[1:55:23] my own death and change my

[1:55:24] identity for unnamed trouble

[1:55:26] reasons stay tuned let's find

[1:55:28] out and if the next episode

[1:55:29] is being co-hosted by

[1:55:30] sergio abrogoso then you'll

[1:55:33] know that that's exactly what

Dan McCoy

[1:55:34] happened bye bye

[1:55:37] on this episode we discuss

Stuart Wellington

[1:55:42] amsterdam the true story of

[1:55:45] the shooting of the movie

[1:55:46] deuce bigelow european

[1:55:48] gigolo that's one too that's

Elliott Kalan

[1:55:52] better than my other one i

[1:55:54] want to hear that shit okay

[1:55:55] here it is let's do it

[1:55:56] it's your voice alex can

Dan McCoy

[1:55:57] toss these last two at the

[1:55:59] end all right on this

[1:56:01] episode we discuss amsterdam

Elliott Kalan

[1:56:03] the movie that begs the

[1:56:04] question on set did ed

[1:56:06] begley jr keep asking john

[1:56:08] david washington why his dad

[1:56:09] denzel hasn't called him

[1:56:10] since the eight elsewhere

[1:56:11] ended it's a good one i love

Dan McCoy

[1:56:14] it okay it's a good yeah any

Elliott Kalan

[1:56:17] alex any you don't use

[1:56:18] throw them at the end why

Dan McCoy

[1:56:19] yeah use every part of the

[1:56:20] buffalo and now we move

[1:56:23] along to what we call the

[1:56:25] taping of the show i guess

Elliott Kalan

[1:56:29] we do call it yeah we and

[1:56:31] technically i mean yeah

[1:56:32] yeah maximum fun.org comedy

Dan McCoy

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