Episode #393 - Ticket to Paradise

[0:00] On this episode, we discuss Ticket to Paradise,

[0:04] which, based on the blooper reel, was a lot of fun to make.

[0:08] Yeah.

[0:30] Hey, everyone, and welcome to The Flophouse.

[0:36] I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:37] Hey, it's me, Stuart Wellington.

[0:39] And I'm Elliot Kalin, trying to match Stuart's energy,

[0:42] but it feels forced when I do it.

[0:44] What's the problem?

[0:45] Why are you guys doing your voices like you're 90s cartoon characters?

[0:48] Oh, cool.

[0:50] Because they were radical and tubular, and I know I said radical.

[0:53] That's radical plus cool.

[0:55] Hey, guys, here's the thing.

[0:56] Let's cut the crap.

[0:57] We've got something important to talk about,

[0:59] and it's not 90s cartoon characters, which I know are very important,

[1:02] and I want to talk about them.

[1:04] Thank you to our fans for coming out to last weekend's –

[1:07] I believe it's the weekend before this episode is released

[1:09] because we don't record exactly on the day of release –

[1:12] last weekend's Flophouse live show at the Bell House in Brooklyn, New York.

[1:16] You were a great audience, I say, as if I didn't record this ahead of the show.

[1:21] Elliot, you were incredible.

[1:23] Dan, you have never been fucking funnier and hotter.

[1:27] You change the way I think about comedy in a good way.

[1:30] Yeah.

[1:31] And Dan, keep it up.

[1:33] Wonderful stuff.

[1:35] Huh.

[1:36] Objectively a good compliment.

[1:38] No, it's true.

[1:39] So I know a lot of our listeners out there are like,

[1:42] I don't live in Brooklyn.

[1:43] I couldn't get there.

[1:44] I missed the show.

[1:45] Why are you talking about it, rubbing my face in the fact that I missed this amazing show?

[1:48] Here's the thing, listeners.

[1:50] You don't have to miss the show because you're going to get your own chance to see it.

[1:54] That's right.

[1:55] Battle with Battlefield Earth, our live Brooklyn Battlefield Earth show,

[1:58] is going to be online for you to watch starting April 22nd, 2023.

[2:05] On April 22nd, 2023, 7 p.m. Eastern, it will debut online as a streaming thing,

[2:11] and we will be there in the chat window to talk to you about it.

[2:15] Now, this is not the kind of thing that's going to happen for free.

[2:18] Unfortunately, we live in a capitalist society.

[2:20] If it was up to me, we would not.

[2:22] We live in a place where we could have whatever we want from each according to their ability,

[2:25] to each according to their need.

[2:26] That's not the world we live in.

[2:28] Here's the brass tacks.

[2:29] You're going to have to buy tickets.

[2:30] Tickets are available if you go to www.flophousepodcast.com/.stream.

[2:36] You can buy tickets to this exclusive streaming event.

[2:39] How exclusive is it?

[2:40] Well, you'll also have the chance to get VIP meet-and-greet tickets

[2:44] where you'll have an opportunity to talk to us by yourself with us, the Flophouses guys.

[2:49] Well, I don't know if it's by yourself.

[2:51] It might be – well, anyway, some sort of chat room.

[2:55] You'll get an actual chat and chew with us if you're eating at the time.

[2:59] We probably won't be, but you can.

[3:01] That's fine.

[3:02] You'll be in the comfort of your own house.

[3:03] Will exclusive merchandise be available during the show?

[3:05] Yes, and we've seen it, and it looks fantastic.

[3:08] It's some of my favorite merchandise that I think we've ever had.

[3:10] That's the Flophouse, battle with Battlefield Earth.

[3:13] If you want tickets, go to www.flophousepodcast.com/.stream.

[3:18] It's one of those things where it's going to premiere April 22nd at 7 p.m. Eastern,

[3:22] and we will be there in the kind of chat to watch it with you

[3:25] and text, talk to you while it's happening.

[3:28] But then it'll be streaming for a while after that.

[3:30] So if you can't make it that night, you can get tickets to watch it at your leisure from that moment on.

[3:36] Yeah, and we want to tell people, too, we've been working with a company to make it look real nice.

[3:41] It's not just – I don't know, someone set up a camera,

[3:45] and that's what it looked like at the bell house.

[3:47] It'll be edited together. It'll look –

[3:49] It's going to look good, yeah.

[3:50] It's going to look good for you guys, and it's a way to see a show that maybe you would want to

[3:55] if you lived in the area, but you just don't.

[3:59] And it's going to include our presentations, and this will be one of the first times you can really see us

[4:03] doing our PowerPoint presentations, which, again, are specific to this show.

[4:06] Yeah, on stage, yeah.

[4:07] But usually you only get to see those if you go to the show in person.

[4:10] This time, you can watch them later, afterwards, on video.

[4:14] Hopefully – and we don't know for sure, but hopefully by the time this episode drops,

[4:17] we actually should have trailers for that event on our social media.

[4:22] Yeah, that'll be neat.

[4:23] Yep, it'll be neat.

[4:24] It'll make me feel like a real big-time person.

[4:27] I'll be like, look, there's a trailer that has me in it.

[4:29] Dan, you've always felt like a big-time person to me.

[4:32] Thanks.

[4:34] Medium time.

[4:35] Elliot's looking at me like, is Stuart doing some kind of elaborate fit?

[4:41] Is Stuart trying to seduce Dan to get the riches that his first husband left him?

[4:47] Flophousepodcast.com slash stream to buy your tickets.

[4:50] I'm super excited about you getting the chance to see it and about interacting with you,

[4:53] should you choose that opportunity, Flophouse listener.

[4:56] But now let's get back to the show, which is called The Flophouse.

[5:00] What are we doing?

[5:01] Yeah, what are we doing this, Dan?

[5:02] What are we doing this Flophouse podcast, Dan?

[5:06] I'm so excited the words can't come out of my mouth fast enough.

[5:08] What are you going to do on the Flophouse podcast, Dan?

[5:10] Yeah, it's a Flophouse.

[5:13] It's a show.

[5:14] It's a podcast where we watch a bad movie.

[5:16] All right.

[5:17] And then we talk about it or, you know, a movie that has gotten maybe not the greatest.

[5:22] It hasn't taken either or the critical or the box office by fire.

[5:31] Based on the Rotten Tomato meter, this one seems to have a decent audience score.

[5:37] Right down the middle.

[5:38] Not so much.

[5:39] Critic wise, I felt like Better Critic had it at a solid 50 right in the middle of their scale.

[5:46] And it made a little bit of money.

[5:48] So, yeah, I guess that's the end of the episode, guys.

[5:51] Congratulations, tickets to paradise.

[5:53] You did not get flopped.

[5:54] We've talked ourselves out of it.

[5:56] Yeah, but it wasn't like I think the reaction, even the positive reaction, was tinged with a little bit of meh.

[6:06] Especially considering that it was like, oh, we've got these two big Hollywood stars, old-timey movies.

[6:16] Not old-timey, but what feel like our version of old-time movie stars.

[6:20] Two stars who drip charisma and have a lot of chemistry together.

[6:26] And this is the first time they've ever been in a movie together.

[6:29] Hold on.

[6:30] Let me check my notes.

[6:31] Wait.

[6:32] Oh, no.

[6:33] The eighth or ninth time they've made a movie together.

[6:34] Yeah.

[6:35] That's the reason why they've made a lot of movies together.

[6:36] Yes, it is.

[6:37] It's because they generally have chemistry.

[6:40] Yes.

[6:41] Julia Roberts and George Clooney.

[6:44] You pronounced their names correctly.

[6:46] Wonderful.

[6:47] A hundred dollars a day.

[6:48] Well, I realize that I don't think we actually mentioned the names of the stars, which would be helpful.

[6:52] And we have a fresh crop of stars in supporting roles.

[6:56] We have Caitlin Dever.

[6:57] Yep.

[6:58] Star of the future.

[6:59] Star of today.

[7:00] Who I love and like I've loved since Justified.

[7:02] Very great.

[7:03] Loved since Justified.

[7:04] And also—

[7:05] Great and book smart.

[7:06] And Billy Lord, the daughter of Carrie Fisher.

[7:11] Very funny and book smart.

[7:12] The iconic Lieutenant Connix of the Star Wars universe.

[7:15] Yeah.

[7:16] So this is Ticket to Paradise.

[7:20] And I'm deriving this plane, I guess.

[7:23] This party.

[7:24] It's a plane.

[7:25] Party plane.

[7:26] Party boat.

[7:27] I mean, in this movie, we see planes, boats, Jeeps, and a motorcycle.

[7:31] So choose your vehicle.

[7:33] You can drive it.

[7:34] No trains or automobiles.

[7:35] Sorry.

[7:36] You do see automobiles.

[7:37] A Jeep is an automobile, Sam.

[7:38] But no, there are no trains.

[7:41] So the movie—

[7:42] I think Bali has a dearth of trains.

[7:44] But, you know.

[7:45] Sure.

[7:46] Being an island.

[7:47] So guys, before I get into the plot, most of this movie takes place in Bali, which I'm

[7:51] assuming in part was chosen because everybody wanted to go on vacation.

[7:55] Now, I'm going to admit, I don't know that much about Bali.

[7:58] Mainly, I know about Indonesia from action movies.

[8:01] And also that I know that Bali is like a vacation destination of choice for influencers and

[8:06] OnlyFans creators.

[8:07] Yes.

[8:08] So do you guys know anything about Bali?

[8:10] I know less than that.

[8:12] I don't know much about Bali.

[8:13] And I know even less after watching the movie because, according to Wikipedia, principal

[8:16] photography took place in Queensland, Australia.

[8:18] So the movie itself was not really made much in Bali.

[8:23] Here's the thing about this movie.

[8:25] This is a movie that, for the most part, you know, it's a George Clooney, Julia Roberts

[8:31] charm-off.

[8:32] But they go to Bali, and the characters in Bali—and I think this is a small step in

[8:38] the right direction of progressivism and a big step in an inadvertent wrong direction.

[8:43] The characters are not played—the fact that they are Balinese is not played for laughs,

[8:48] you know.

[8:49] But at the same time, the characters who are not George Clooney and Julia Roberts, but

[8:53] also especially the characters who are not the white American characters, have very little

[8:56] personality and very little point of view of anything.

[8:59] And as we get into it, this movie is about a man and woman who are not happy that their

[9:04] daughter is about to get married to someone she barely knows.

[9:06] His race doesn't enter into it.

[9:08] But the fact that none of the groom's family seems to have any opinion other than,

[9:14] This is wonderful.

[9:15] We love everything.

[9:16] We're great.

[9:17] It really struck me as weird.

[9:18] The characters have no agency, essentially.

[9:23] And I think that's an element of them trying to be like, there's no racism to the movie,

[9:30] but it inadvertently makes them almost not characters.

[9:33] Do you feel the same way?

[9:34] Am I jumping into too deep waters as they do in the movie when a dolphin attacks one

[9:38] of them?

[9:39] That's true.

[9:40] The dad gets a little bit of wacky business to do.

[9:43] The groom is himself just kind of a manic pixie dream boy.

[9:48] He's a non-entity.

[9:49] Yeah.

[9:50] But I will say that I would agree with you more, Elliot, if I didn't feel like basically

[9:56] all of the characters are given the bare minimum.

[10:00] characterization. I had no idea really who Caitlin Dever was either slightly more with

[10:08] our leads but not really. That's a good point is that the Indonesian characters have very

[10:13] little personality but also so does the third lead in the movie. I feel like the character

[10:19] and we'll get to him in a little bit. I feel like the character who has the most character

[10:24] is Paul Julia Roberts' boyfriend. This movie is directed by Ol Parker and I guess the

[10:34] name is short for Oliver I think but every time I read it I think it says Ol Parker

[10:37] and I'm like who should we get to direct Ticket to Paradise? Oh well I could take on

[10:44] your movie Ol Parker. You gave up that life of crime? You know I'm always ready to get

[10:51] pulled back into the cinema game. For a romp with Clooney and Roberts on vacation? I feel

[10:59] like that's the ultimate heist is stealing America's hearts. This director did Mamma

[11:07] Mia Here We Go Again. I know that's one of the other big credits. Yeah that's another

[11:14] Ol Parker joint. Yep. This movie is similarly sort of like vibrantly colored like vacation

[11:23] porn and for a rom-com like it doesn't none of the cinematography or anything enhances

[11:29] the comedy but it does enhance like there's so many like films out there that are just

[11:34] sort of shot with no style at all. It was nice to like at least have something pretty

[11:39] to look at. It definitely helps the movie's mood that it is full of bright colors. Bright

[11:44] colors sunshine that kind of stuff. Yeah it feels like you're on vacation. Now before

[11:48] we again before we get to the plot I was just talking to one of my bartenders who is a film

[11:52] critic in her own right Margaret Barton Fuomo and she was saying that this movie reminded

[11:57] her of a trend in the 30s of comedies of remarriage. Do you feel that is Elliot I feel like you're

[12:07] the authority on this type of bullshit. Yeah there's a lot of that stuff. I mean the thing

[12:11] is it comedies of remarriage were there were quite a bit you'd have movies like awful truth

[12:18] or My Favorite Wife or you know there's one with William Powell and Myrna Loy to this

[12:23] particular like that where it is a either a married couple splits apart and then or

[12:27] Mr. and Mrs. Smith splits apart and then realizes why they should be together or a marriage

[12:31] or a but it's also or His Girl Friday is one of those also I mean that's 1940 I think but

[12:38] it's the same time basically and I think it does fit into that but overall it fits into

[12:42] the larger romantic comedy trope of they hate each other now they love each other like that's

[12:48] the African queen up till today and I mean in the 30s are plenty of those two and then

[12:53] I feel like that's a big it's been a romantic comedy. The big challenge is making it clear

[13:00] to the audience these characters are in love with each other need to be together and then

[13:03] coming up with reasons why they are not together and I feel like this movie does not a great

[13:08] job of doing that because these two people who are divorcees who don't like each other

[13:14] anymore so they say they just kind of snipe at each other in funny ways but they don't

[13:19] really seem to have any real problems with each other as opposed to some of the comedies

[13:22] of remarriage of the 30s like there would be you know you'd have they they would kind

[13:29] of do a better job of at least showing the married people almost starting relationships

[13:34] outside of that that previous relationship and here there's except for Paul Julia Roberts

[13:39] boyfriend who from the first moment it seems clear Julia Roberts is not that into yes other

[13:44] than that there's no other element like that you know there's no reason for them not to

[13:47] get back together. Yeah so the movie opens with divorced parents David and Georgia again

[13:54] played by George Clooney and which is weird that Julia Roberts character's name is Georgia

[13:59] but not played by George Clooney. It's weird okay. Do you think there's ever a part where

[14:07] George Clooney was reading his lines and he saw that he was addressing someone as Georgia

[14:10] and he'd go well why am I talking to myself? Oh I just changed my name. The name ends differently

[14:14] than mine. Yeah yeah. So let's get the writer on the horn. So they're in their respective

[14:19] cities. Paul Parker. Yeah yeah George. I got a question here. How come this character how

[14:24] come this character how come I'm talking to myself? I don't understand. Well did you finish

[14:28] reading the name George? No I didn't. Well take a look at that last last two letters you'll see

[14:32] they're different from the last letter in your name. All right I don't think you're gonna be

[14:35] right but oh Georgia. My apologies. Oh I didn't mean to call you up in the middle of the night.

[14:40] It's okay at my age I don't sleep that much anyway. Trip knees acting up means it's gonna

[14:44] rain tomorrow. Uh oh. Well we have enough covered sets that we can work on for that day of the

[14:49] shoot. Oh oh Parker's been around the movie game more than once. I know how to handle rain or the

[14:54] threat of rain. I'll just leave you be. Okay and then George hangs up and goes wait a minute I called

[14:59] him but he made it sound like he called me. That's an amazing way to get off the phone. Yeah he's

[15:04] great. That's why he's the best. Yeah. That's why they had to bring him out of retirement. Yeah. So

[15:08] they're in their respective cities and they're recounting their former relationship to co-workers,

[15:15] friends, etc. George Clooney is what like a high-powered architect that seems like a movie job.

[15:23] All you do is you see him at a building site. So I don't know if he's the architect, if he owns the

[15:29] building, what? I don't know. Yeah. And Julia Roberts is what like a she runs a gallery. She

[15:35] owns an art gallery. That's how that's how kind of textbook rom-com this is that he's an architect and

[15:39] she owns an art gallery. Like they're not even trying. She makes it beautiful. What are some

[15:45] glamour adjacent jobs that people sort of vaguely understand but don't know so much about the

[15:54] yeah so this got this conversation we're hearing both of their sides on their relationship and we

[16:00] get you know two very different spins on the same story but part of the backstory that has dropped

[16:05] is that we find out that George Clooney's character proposed to Julia Roberts care David proposed to

[16:12] Georgia at her graduation which is to me a little insane because it was her day it was her day to

[16:20] celebrate her achievement and he took it from her yeah like just like the dad and big fish

[16:25] everything's always got to be about him so but they were married for only five years but they

[16:30] did have a daughter Lily they do not get along it was not an amicable divorce and they but they

[16:37] they have not seen each other very much but they both have to go to their daughter's graduation

[16:45] from law school I think law school yeah she's graduating from law school

[16:48] we get introduced to Lily played by wait a minute hold on a second my sister graduated from law

[16:55] school and our parents are divorced is ticket to paradise about my family now and I mean when we

[17:03] follow the rest of the plot perhaps yeah we'll have to see I mean I watched the movie but I'm

[17:06] gonna pretend that I don't know what happened so I can compare it to my life and see if they've

[17:09] stolen my story yeah as we go along keep a document open you know see what you have see what kind of

[17:16] legal action we can take against yeah and when I say we I want to cover this yeah okay I mean you

[17:22] are a lawyer right sure my sister went to law school but you should probably handle the case

[17:27] so we meet Lily again played by Caitlin Deaver and her best friend and roommate

[17:31] Ren like a bird that's the thing until I looked up the movie's cast on Wikipedia I was like oh

[17:38] they spell it Ren like the bird and I kept thinking it was Ren like like Ren and Stimpy

[17:42] yeah there's like well it lines up she would have been born like you know her parents could

[17:48] have been Nickelodeon fans yeah okay so they're packing for their post-graduation trip to Bali

[17:59] Lily is packing school books Ren is packing a long string of condoms that really kind of defines

[18:04] their two characters David and Georgia and all those books are hollowed out and there's condoms

[18:09] inside filled with condoms uh just loose not even wrapped uh no some used but washed you can fit

[18:17] more in there no yeah Stuart god no uh David and Georgia end up having to sit next to each other

[18:23] during the ceremony and they can't stop bickering and fighting uh distracting people around them

[18:28] they continue to argue all the way to the airport it's just constant arguing uh they argue all the

[18:34] way to the airport the next day when they have to take Lily and Ren to their flight at Bali

[18:39] there's a nice joke about having done seven Jaeger bombs which was only one too many Jaeger bombs

[18:45] which is not true any Jaeger bombs is too many I'm sorry kids as a professional I can say Jaeger

[18:53] bombs no thank you um let's see Lily and so we get a little bit of like fast forward we get some

[19:01] Instagram pictures and Bali that's to show everybody that social media exists in this world

[19:06] because we're worried yeah we just like to show them that that to show them that us that are

[19:10] having a great time in Bali they're having a great time we get an opening credit sequence and having

[19:15] like had a vague idea of like what the plot of the movie was you know from like ads and and whatnot

[19:21] like I sort of expected the whole like meeting between Caitlin Deaver and her you know soon to

[19:29] be a husband character to like just be done during this like montage like show it through

[19:35] like photos too but and and was sort of genuinely surprised that we didn't just like skip to like

[19:41] uh Clooney and uh Julia Roberts getting like an invitation and like freaking out you know but uh

[19:48] but maybe I like I think it could have been more efficient guys that's all I'm saying

[19:52] you're not actually that interesting the meeting no especially because the the so that the groom's

[19:57] care his groom is named what Geed is that his name

[20:00] name?

[20:01] Uh, Getty.

[20:02] Getty.

[20:03] That's what it's Getty.

[20:04] And, uh, he is not, he's very handsome and I'm, I'm sure, uh, like he's not really given

[20:08] a chance to show us what kind of an actor he is cause there's not much to him.

[20:11] And I kind of almost wish that it was like bridesmaids where Tim Heidecker is just walking

[20:16] around and has no lines.

[20:17] Yes.

[20:18] And the whole time you're like, is this some kind of elaborate fucking bit?

[20:21] Yeah.

[20:22] I was like, did they know he was there that day?

[20:24] Like he, did he photobomb a movie?

[20:26] Like how does this possible?

[20:27] I was just at working.

[20:29] But the, I, in some ways I think that would have made more sense cause then you as the

[20:32] audience too would not know who is this guy?

[20:35] Is it, is it the right choice or not?

[20:37] Whereas I see a whole meet cute and it's clear that as with all people who live in other

[20:41] countries, he is close to the land and lives in a more traditional, you know, healthy way

[20:46] and is, has a healthy family.

[20:49] We get this great meet cute where Ren and Lily are abandoned in the ocean and before

[20:53] they die, Getty shows up.

[20:56] And briefly turns into the movie open water before a Getty shows up.

[20:59] Yeah.

[21:00] I assume that we were missing the scene where like whatever, like snorkeling to her boat

[21:05] gets sued for not doing a head count about who's on the boat.

[21:10] And so, yeah, she meets this handsome seaweed farmer, Getty.

[21:15] Then they connect at a party, which looks like a lot of fun.

[21:19] And then Lily wakes up in his bed, which is very much looks at, at his seaweed farm, which

[21:25] looks very much like a resort.

[21:26] Uh, but we learned that it doesn't have a fourth wall, right?

[21:30] Like it's just open to the beach.

[21:32] Yeah, it looks very, yeah.

[21:33] Again, it looks like the place influencers stay and they're like, I just roll out of

[21:37] bed, I eat some granola and then I jump right into the ocean.

[21:40] Um, and, uh, they spit that granola into the ocean for the fish.

[21:45] Yeah.

[21:46] Well, that's this, that's how the cycle works.

[21:48] They don't want all the calories of the, um, so Lily, after talking to Getty, realized

[21:56] that her entire life is out of balance, uh, and that she wants to stay in this beautiful

[22:00] place.

[22:01] And I'm like, you know, shit, everyone wants to stay on permanent vacation, dude.

[22:04] It's because he showed, he showed her Kuranosuke the night before.

[22:09] That's actually how she realized that he's much more of a dude than I thought.

[22:13] Yeah.

[22:14] Hey, I got to show you this movie first.

[22:15] I'll tell you what it means that there is a, this movie is, and I mean, again, it's

[22:19] a romantic comedy.

[22:20] It doesn't have to be real.

[22:21] Like it's a, it's a fantasy from top to bottom, but you're right, Stuart, it is playing off

[22:25] that feeling you get when you're on vacation.

[22:26] We're just like, I love this place.

[22:27] I should live here.

[22:28] Wait a minute.

[22:29] What I actually love is not going to work and relaxing every day.

[22:32] Like I've had that experience in San Francisco, in Paris, where I'm like, yeah, I could live

[22:37] here forever.

[22:38] Oh, wait a minute.

[22:39] It's because I have no responsibilities while I'm here except to just put food in my face

[22:41] when I'm hungry.

[22:42] And so then you thought, but if I faked my own death, I could, I could have no responsibility.

[22:48] Yeah, exactly.

[22:49] Like, yeah, I just want to lie around on the beach, read crazy from the heat all day long.

[22:55] That's balance to me.

[22:56] Sure.

[22:57] But Dan, you know, you've read Maltese Falcon, you know, as soon as I fake my own death and

[23:00] I go somewhere, I'm just going to get another family, another job.

[23:03] I'll have all the same stresses because that's what happens when girders aren't falling on

[23:06] your head.

[23:07] You just revert to the mean, you know?

[23:08] Yeah.

[23:09] I feel like, and I also, I feel like that's Elliot, like that kind of fits the Elliot

[23:13] I have built up in my mind, this one where even in your fantasy, you're like, but I need

[23:17] more responsibilities.

[23:18] I mean, I've always said to Danielle, I'm like, oh, I can't wait till I retire.

[23:22] And she's like, why?

[23:24] I'm like, then I'll have more time for writing.

[23:25] And so it's like, it's a, yeah, I'm a, I'm a ceaseless engine, unfortunately.

[23:30] Uh, okay.

[23:31] So then we get a, we get a title card guys, 37 days later.

[23:36] So at this point, Killian Murphy has gotten out of the hospital for nine days at this

[23:43] point.

[23:44] He's aware of what's going on.

[23:48] He knows the situation.

[23:49] He's not surprised anymore.

[23:50] Yeah.

[23:51] Yeah.

[23:52] He's still surprised at the depths that humans can, uh, Oh, sure, sure.

[23:57] So we then see, wait a minute.

[23:59] What if the, now I want to believe these are happening in the same universe.

[24:02] And when Killian Murphy sees that airplane at the end of 28 days later, he is seeing

[24:06] George Clooney and Julia Roberts heading to Bali for their daughter's wedding.

[24:10] There's nothing in this movie that doesn't say that England has become a quarantine zombie

[24:15] wasteland.

[24:16] It's the shared ticket to ride universe, take the right ticket to paradise.

[24:19] If I was, if I was Lily at this point, I'd be like, yeah, I'm staying in Bali.

[24:23] It seems safer here.

[24:24] Yeah.

[24:25] Um, it's an Island that the rage virus can't get here.

[24:29] So while the rage virus is raging, raging, it's destroying England.

[24:34] Meanwhile, in Bali, meanwhile, in LA we see the, uh, we see a very large building that

[24:41] in very large letters reads the Georgia cotton gallery.

[24:45] And I'm like, Oh, she's rich, rich.

[24:48] She's very well off.

[24:49] Um, and she is taking a meeting with a client.

[24:52] Uh, she's wearing a suit that incorporates shorts that is very tasteful.

[24:57] I would say, uh, when you said before the recording that you hadn't edited down your

[25:01] notes, I thought, surely that's not the case.

[25:04] Okay.

[25:05] So I, for one love Stewart's fashion.

[25:08] Yeah.

[25:09] Stuff that is often overlooked by Ellie.

[25:12] Yeah.

[25:13] Very much so.

[25:14] Yeah.

[25:15] Um, she gets, uh, Georgia gets a phone call from David because it turns out Lily is getting

[25:18] married in Bali to a fellow she met in Bali.

[25:21] Um, and David and Georgia immediately decide they have to break this up though.

[25:26] They don't talk to each other about it.

[25:28] Then they end up bumping into each other on the same flight to Bali.

[25:32] They're sitting next to each other on the same row.

[25:35] And to make matters more interesting, uh, Georgia's hot young boyfriend who's French.

[25:41] Paul is the pilot on that flight.

[25:44] Uh, Dan described Paul for us.

[25:47] Uh, he just seems like a big old puppy dog.

[25:51] Like all he cares about is Julia Roberts.

[25:55] Um, in a way that of having almost no character drives himself other than his need to be with

[26:01] Julie Robertson supporter, which is a red flag ladies.

[26:07] He definitely has.

[26:08] He is, he is supportive to the point of, uh, almost being a horror.

[26:12] Smothering.

[26:13] Yeah.

[26:14] Yeah.

[26:15] It's a smother.

[26:16] It's like a real monkey's paw situation.

[26:17] You wanted a supportive boyfriend.

[26:18] Here you go.

[26:19] I mean, I, I would tell you that that was true in real life.

[26:20] I have complex feelings because I like, yes, the movie presents it as his trait in a way

[26:25] that is like, you know, surface level, like nice.

[26:29] But then like later on her, her daughter's like, you know, this is like being loved isn't

[26:35] the same as loving, you know, like.

[26:37] And the idea is that, yeah, clearly this guy would become smothering over time and doesn't

[26:41] seem to have his own stuff going on in a way that is probably not good for a longterm relationship.

[26:47] That said, I feel like Julia Roberts and George Clooney both acts so unpleasant towards each

[26:54] other and so abominably towards their daughter for like the first half of this movie that

[27:00] in contrast, I'm like, this guy is too good for her.

[27:05] That was the other thing is that he has that trait.

[27:07] He is a he is a kind of manipulatively, toxically supportive guy.

[27:11] But if you take that away, he's an incredibly handsome French pilot like, yeah, there's

[27:16] no reason that he should be with.

[27:18] I mean, and Julia Roberts is a beautiful, charismatic woman.

[27:21] She owns an art gallery.

[27:22] I'm sure she has a lot of interesting things going on in her life that they can relate

[27:24] to about each other.

[27:25] But like that, she is an she's an older woman who is already a divorcee and has a child.

[27:31] It doesn't make sense to me that this guy would be in a relationship with her at his

[27:34] point in life.

[27:35] You know, I don't I don't think that's enough of a red flag.

[27:39] I would say her status and I don't think that's a I don't think it's a red flag.

[27:43] It just seemed unrealistic to me.

[27:44] I would say the unrealistic part is that he does not notice the very clear sexual tension

[27:50] between her and her bickering ex-husband.

[27:52] Yes.

[27:53] And also doesn't seem to notice how little she seems to like him and how little affection

[27:57] she has.

[27:59] Guys, sometimes that's a real turn on.

[28:01] I mean, you know what?

[28:03] That could be Paul's gank.

[28:04] You're right.

[28:05] Is he like he wants to be the loving one?

[28:06] He doesn't want to be the more loving one.

[28:08] Yeah.

[28:09] More loving one and the less loved one could be it.

[28:10] You know what?

[28:11] He's complicated.

[28:12] He's French.

[28:13] I wouldn't say that.

[28:14] Like, he's unaware of like what's going on between her and Clooney.

[28:17] He seems to be aware of it, but he's like choosing not to be bothered by it, which honestly

[28:22] made him more attractive.

[28:23] Yeah.

[28:24] Oh, yeah, that's right.

[28:26] At least he's just letting it play out and see what happens and then he'll make his choice.

[28:31] Not to jump ahead too much, but there is a part where he knows that that she has spent

[28:35] the night in George Clooney's room and he is totally OK with it.

[28:37] And I wanted her to be like, look, Georgia, that's what I'm into.

[28:42] I am into you cucking me.

[28:44] This is what I want.

[28:45] Finally, we're getting somewhere in this relationship.

[28:46] Like I wanted that scene, but it didn't happen, unfortunately.

[28:49] Well, yeah, you can write it right into your movie, right in the margins of your movie.

[28:55] It's going to be called Cuck to Paradise and it's going to be just from Paul's point of

[28:58] view and how turned on he is by the whole situation.

[29:02] Nothing makes him hotter than the idea of losing her to her ex-husband.

[29:05] There are plenty of websites, I think, that would happily accept your short story.

[29:09] Well, do you think they'd print it in the Atlantic because that's where I'm really aiming?

[29:15] Maybe.

[29:16] I don't know.

[29:17] Is there a news hook maybe?

[29:18] I can find something.

[29:19] Yeah.

[29:20] Yeah.

[29:21] I mean, Georgia and David try and come up with a plan, taking the ferry to the, I guess

[29:27] the family farm, the island that they're going to.

[29:30] But they can't seem to agree, although they kind of try and play it cool when they see

[29:36] their daughter again.

[29:37] They try to play it cool and supportive, but then they're hoping to undercut it and cause

[29:43] a rift between their daughter and her husband.

[29:49] Initially, Lily seems on to them, but then kind of forgets about it until like the beginning

[29:55] of the end of the second act or something.

[29:57] Lily is aware of the situation.

[30:00] when the movie demands her to be, and unaware when the movie demands her to be.

[30:04] Yeah.

[30:05] So they go to a big pre-wedding party, which is...

[30:06] Unless off-camera she's getting hit in the head with coconuts and forgetting things,

[30:09] which again would have been an interesting choice to make in the movie.

[30:12] Old Parker, why did you do that?

[30:14] Well, we shot the scenes with the coconuts, but the movie was running a night long, and

[30:18] I know you modern-day movie people, you sit for two and a half, three hours for your movie,

[30:22] but I don't want to go much farther over an hour thirty, and this was an hour forty-four

[30:27] with credits, and that's your sweet spot for Old Parker.

[30:29] I was using Kubrickian precision, and I had hit Caitlin on the head with a coconut more

[30:36] than a hundred times, and she then had to be airlifted off the island to a hospital,

[30:43] and then the producers stepped in and said, is this scene really necessary?

[30:47] They said the insurance company was starting to ask questions, and I said, you don't know

[30:51] how many times I threw a coconut at the head of Joan Fontaine when I needed to.

[30:56] We had real movie-making in those days, and the actors and the actresses, well, they never

[31:00] complained because this was their ticket to stardom.

[31:04] Talk about a paradise.

[31:05] Anyway, I'll let you go.

[31:07] Wait, but we called you, Old Parker, to complain about the scene, but then you acted like you

[31:11] called us.

[31:12] Amazing.

[31:13] I'm going to pass out.

[31:15] Okay, so they arrive at a pre-wedding party, which is supposed to be close family, but

[31:20] it turns out that close family is a relatively large community, and Lily has grown very close

[31:26] with this family, but Georgia and David are very out of their element.

[31:30] We get some jokes about them not understanding the language.

[31:33] There is a character who ends up being the translator for some of the other family members

[31:37] who can't speak English, and I think she gets a couple of good laugh lines, like hearing

[31:41] a big string of, is it Indonesian or Balinese?

[31:45] I don't know what the language is.

[31:49] I'm not sure.

[31:50] But she'll hear a long string of words and then just be like, she says hello.

[31:55] Yeah, that character, she's very much over it, uninterested, bored, teen or whatever,

[32:01] and it's her and Ren have so much more personality than Lily does, and I wish they had taken

[32:07] some of those traits.

[32:09] Lily's best friend, Ren, she drinks too much, everyone thinks she's kind of a loser, and

[32:14] she's like a mess loser, and I just wish they had, as much as I really like Caitlin Deaver,

[32:21] I wish that they had kind of moved Billy Lord over and made her the daughter, because

[32:27] the movie would just have made more sense to me that way, if the daughter had that kind

[32:32] of impulsiveness.

[32:33] Yeah, but also she has this sort of loopy emotional intelligence to counterweight the

[32:42] other stuff.

[32:43] But again, still a more interesting character.

[32:47] A lot of rom-coms are like that, where the sidekick character is the funny one with personality,

[32:52] and that's why if you're in a romantic comedy, the sidekick role is often the breakout role.

[32:57] That's where you want to be, like Rupert Everett in My Best Friend's Wedding, where it's like,

[33:00] you want to be the sidekick, but then it just leaves you often with a main character who

[33:06] is not, and I guess Lily's not the main character, but you leave with a pivotal character who

[33:10] doesn't have a lot going on.

[33:12] Yeah, so Gedde takes David on kind of a tour of the farm, and David tries to scare Gedde

[33:19] off, saying his daughter's going to get sick of this lifestyle, but then it's also revealed

[33:23] that this farm sells to Whole Foods, which is only wild because the farm doesn't seem

[33:28] that big, and it almost never seems like anyone's working.

[33:32] Which, that's true.

[33:34] The seaweed really farms itself.

[33:36] All they seem to do is gather it for like an hour in the morning, and then the rest

[33:39] of the day is, but on the other hand, they might not be working as hard since this is

[33:42] his wedding weekend.

[33:43] Yeah, that's true.

[33:44] That's true.

[33:46] There is a scene where a character refers to Julia Roberts as looking like a very attractive

[33:52] horse, which is, was a little weird.

[33:56] I enjoyed that scene for Julia Roberts playing of it, like, it was like, she really, like,

[34:05] It's a scene where, you know, she is throwing off kind of any sort of movie star ego and

[34:10] just being, like, complimented in this insulting way, and her sort of, like, polite acceptance

[34:17] of it was very funny to me.

[34:21] So, and then David and Georgia, it turns out that they're staying at a nearby resort, which

[34:29] looks kind of similar to where the farm, and of course, he and Georgia are staying

[34:35] in rooms that are right next to each other, which is kind of interesting because they

[34:39] booked all their travel completely separately.

[34:42] So it's interesting that they ended up being right next to each other.

[34:44] It doesn't really matter.

[34:45] I think they might have used the same travel agent.

[34:47] It's called Divorces Who Should Be Together Travel, and they hook you up with all the

[34:52] things that are necessary to get you back together again.

[34:55] It's called Parent Trap Travel.

[34:57] Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's a, if you were to do that, I feel like there'd be a

[35:02] lot of fun in creating a travel agent character who's just really into trying to set people

[35:06] up.

[35:07] Yeah, that'd be really funny.

[35:08] Okay, so David can't sleep, so he ends up at the hotel bar, and Wren shows up, and they

[35:16] have a non-romantic catch-up scene, which I appreciated.

[35:21] This was, honestly, this was, I think, my favorite scene in the entire movie.

[35:24] Yeah, I think I agree.

[35:25] I'm a fucking sucker for hotel bars, and George Clooney's hotel bar scene in Out of Sight

[35:30] is like one of the sexiest scenes.

[35:33] Yeah.

[35:34] I love that shit.

[35:35] And what I really liked about this was that George Clooney is, feels like, they both feel

[35:39] like real people here.

[35:40] It feels like, oh, this is a conversation between a guy who has regrets, who isn't really

[35:46] sure of what's going on in his life or what's going on with his daughter, and his daughter's

[35:50] friend who feels like a daughter to him as well, who he's very close to, but who he can

[35:54] speak to a little more openly because she's not his daughter.

[35:57] And there was, and the fact is, he's so charismatic and so handsome that I was worried they might

[36:03] end up sleeping together.

[36:04] And that didn't happen, and because her character's kind of like, I'll drink anything, I'll sleep

[36:09] with anybody.

[36:10] Yeah, yeah.

[36:11] But the fact that didn't happen, and the scene ended, it was like, oh, this felt like the

[36:14] kind of thing that happens when people meet up with each other at weddings and are just

[36:18] kind of around each other, and they open up in honest ways.

[36:21] I thought it was a really, this was a really great scene.

[36:23] Yeah.

[36:25] And it made me wish that there was, so George Clooney does a lot to explain his motivation

[36:31] at different times.

[36:32] He talks about how he had bought a plot of land, and he was building a dream house for

[36:36] him and George to live in, and then it burned down.

[36:40] And I would have liked a little more background because he doesn't have a person in his life,

[36:48] and I would have liked a little more background on has he not dated anyone in the 20-odd years

[36:54] since his divorce, or had he had every single relationship been sabotaged because he is

[37:00] still clinging to this fantasy of his past relationship?

[37:04] I don't know.

[37:07] I'm reading too much into this movie.

[37:09] No, but I think you're doing, it's the kind of reading that the movie could have done

[37:12] a little bit more of, and it would have elevated the whole thing, because as it is, it does

[37:16] feel like these characters are born the moment the movie starts, and then their backstory

[37:20] is filled in as necessary, and it's like almost they're remembering those things as

[37:25] they need to, as opposed to us finding it, these people at this moment in their lives

[37:29] when they've lived for X many years beforehand.

[37:32] But also, at least he gets that.

[37:34] I don't even think Julia Roberts gets as much development.

[37:37] No, the closest she gets to that is when she talks very briefly about being a mom after

[37:43] the divorce, and that's about it.

[37:46] She gets very little to sketch in who she is.

[37:48] Yeah, and the daughter keeps talking about how amazing her parents are, particularly

[37:55] the mom, and we believe it because it's Julia Roberts, but the movie doesn't do that.

[38:02] This movie, more than most things we watch, really coasts along on the fact that these

[38:08] are people that you like, and I think that's part of its strategy, but it does it too much.

[38:13] It's the benefit of, that's why you cast George Clooney and Julia Roberts for something like

[38:17] this.

[38:18] That's what Chuck would do, and he would cast actors.

[38:19] He'd say, I'm casting Jimmy Stewart because he brings with him the Jimmy Stewarts that

[38:23] he was in other movies.

[38:24] I'm casting Cary Grant because you already know who he is as soon as he shows up on screen.

[38:27] But even there, they would give you a little bit more meat for the characters in here.

[38:33] There's not a lot of, especially for Julia Roberts, there's not a lot of meat.

[38:36] You cast Vin Diesel, so you're getting Dominic Toretto, you're getting Xander Cage, you're

[38:41] getting The Last Witch Hunter, you're getting all these, you're getting Pitch Black, you're

[38:47] getting all these guys.

[38:48] Wow, yeah.

[38:49] That was his name.

[38:50] There were later sequels to that movie that were just his name, and yet you're going with

[38:55] him.

[38:56] His name is Riddick, I'm sorry.

[38:57] His name is dumb, because his name is Riddick, right?

[38:58] That's a dumb name.

[38:59] Yeah, Riddick.

[39:00] He's a Furian.

[39:01] Wait.

[39:02] His eyes glow.

[39:03] He was in love with Kyra, but she died.

[39:06] I'm sorry, I'm trying to remember the song Heart of the Furian by Dire Peril, which lists

[39:11] all this shit.

[39:14] And you also get bloodshot when you cast him.

[39:16] A lot of people forget that.

[39:18] Oh, you get the whole thing.

[39:19] That's why you cast Vin Diesel.

[39:20] So you don't cast him to be a guy who can tie ties realistically.

[39:24] And I wonder if they're trying for that with Kaitlyn Dever, too, because this character

[39:29] fits in a lot with previous characters she's had in other movies, but I feel like she doesn't

[39:33] automatically bring that with her quite the same way, because it's not that, you know.

[39:38] She just hasn't had the years to do it.

[39:41] Yes, like Max Funn, Max Funn founder Jesse Thorne, I was hanging out with him, and he

[39:46] was reminding me of an old SNL sketch that Jack Handy wrote that George Clooney is in.

[39:50] It's about tales of railroad management malfeasance or something like that, malfeasance in railroad

[39:56] hiring practices.

[39:57] And this is a sketch from 30 years ago, and George Clooney, when I...

[40:00] I watched it again, I was like, he looks so young.

[40:02] I forget, I think of him now as like an older, handsome guy.

[40:05] But before that, he was a young, handsome guy.

[40:07] And that's what informs the older, handsome guy.

[40:09] And like, she just doesn't have enough of that built up yet

[40:11] for her to automatically bring the character with her.

[40:13] Yeah.

[40:15] So the next morning, David convinces Georgia

[40:17] to steal the wedding rings from a child.

[40:20] And she uses a trick where she explains,

[40:23] in America, we slice bananas before we peel them.

[40:26] I don't know how this trick works.

[40:28] Does she use like razor blade?

[40:29] All right.

[40:30] Okay, well, you need a needle and thread, right?

[40:32] You need a needle and thread.

[40:33] There's an old-

[40:35] She uses a sonic gun that you'd use

[40:36] to break up a kidney stone.

[40:38] And she just hits the banana with it.

[40:40] Well, she doesn't even need the gun.

[40:41] She can just do the sonic boom

[40:42] that Guile does in Street Fighter.

[40:44] Yeah, oh yeah.

[40:45] This is an old quote, unquote, magic trick

[40:48] you would find in like a kid's magic book

[40:50] where you do like a couple of-

[40:51] Dan's looking at me right now like I'm some dumb kid.

[40:54] Dan's just like, he's like,

[40:56] the disgust with which Dan is applying

[40:58] the word magic to this,

[40:59] like the ghost of Ricky Jay is like inside Dan's head

[41:02] being like, you make sure this is not real magic.

[41:04] Well, I'll tell you why this is like a terrible.

[41:08] You use, yeah, you use a needle and thread.

[41:10] You basically like pass a thread through.

[41:12] So the thread is cutting the banana inside the peel.

[41:16] You're essentially garroding the banana in its own skin.

[41:19] You get a couple of holes because of it.

[41:21] And if you know anything about a banana,

[41:24] if you damage the peel, it will brown up right away.

[41:28] So this gagged banana, this tricked banana,

[41:32] will look, like it's not,

[41:35] it's not not obvious that there are a bunch

[41:37] of fucking holes in this banana.

[41:39] But it's not like the banana browns up

[41:41] like instantly like Dorian Gray crumbling to dust.

[41:44] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[41:44] Like it drank from their own fucking goblet.

[41:46] When did Julia Roberts like rig this banana?

[41:50] It's not like she carries around a divided banana

[41:52] in her luggage.

[41:54] She took a banana, she has a sewing kit.

[41:55] She did it moments before.

[41:57] Moments before.

[41:58] I'm saying that banana would be brown.

[42:01] No, not a, you peel a banana and you set it out to eat.

[42:04] It's not like it instantly turns brown.

[42:06] It takes a little bit of time.

[42:07] So I think when-

[42:08] Lister, try this thread trick.

[42:11] See how long it takes the banana to look absolutely.

[42:14] Yeah, throw that shit up on TikTok.

[42:16] We'll watch it.

[42:16] Yeah, update us.

[42:17] Do a day-by-day update,

[42:18] then do a time lapse of the whole thing.

[42:20] Now that Georgia has the magic wings-

[42:21] Then do a time lapse of us.

[42:23] Then put the music on it.

[42:24] You already made your own Koyaanisqatsi.

[42:25] Congratulations.

[42:28] Now that-

[42:28] It's a banana-isqatsi.

[42:30] Now that Georgia has stolen the magic rings,

[42:32] I think it delays the wedding ceremony a little bit

[42:34] and buys them a little bit more time

[42:36] to break up this couple.

[42:38] So then they go swimming with dolphins.

[42:39] One of them bites David in the leg

[42:41] and he has a real meltdown about it.

[42:44] And we already can tell that Getty believes

[42:48] that David and Georgia stole the rings

[42:50] and are up to no good.

[42:53] They're up to mischief.

[42:56] David tries to play dumb.

[42:58] Georgia keeps Lily busy.

[43:01] But Getty doesn't tell Lily his suspicions,

[43:03] which is not cool.

[43:05] You should be more open and honest with this stuff.

[43:07] I mean, he should,

[43:08] but I understand that he's trying to preserve

[43:11] the relationship of her and her parents

[43:12] because she would be so mad

[43:14] if she knew what they were doing.

[43:17] Next morning, Georgia and David are woken up early

[43:19] to help bring in the seaweed crop alone.

[43:23] Again, they're the only people out there.

[43:25] They get to have a little fight flirt.

[43:27] Yeah, nothing more romantic than picking seaweed together.

[43:30] Yeah.

[43:32] It becomes competitive because they're both alphas.

[43:35] They're high-functioning people.

[43:37] The real type A's, yeah.

[43:38] Then they watch Getty get his teeth filed down.

[43:42] Now, there are a couple different things.

[43:43] And now, I don't know anything about Balinese

[43:46] or Indonesian wedding practices,

[43:47] but they go to a couple different

[43:49] rites of passage for the wedding.

[43:51] And I'm curious, I guess I could do the research,

[43:53] how much of it is real stuff

[43:54] and how much of it is not real stuff.

[43:56] Because if it's not real stuff,

[43:57] then they are making up things.

[44:01] But it may be real stuff, I don't know.

[44:03] I've never heard of it before.

[44:04] So then they go to ease the pain.

[44:08] They all go out and drink moonshine and play beer pong.

[44:11] This leads to a lot of dancing.

[44:13] And they dance embarrassingly to songs

[44:16] that I remember growing up with as a kid,

[44:18] so it made me feel very old, guys.

[44:20] Now, Stuart, these are the songs

[44:23] that we listened to as kids

[44:24] and they would have heard as 20-somethings.

[44:26] Uh-huh, at least one of these songs,

[44:28] I think it was Jump by House of Pain.

[44:31] I owned on because single, everybody.

[44:33] Now, Dan, are you gonna ask me how I felt about this

[44:35] because of my, I'm on record as hating scenes

[44:39] where actors are just dancing.

[44:41] Here's what I'm gonna tell you.

[44:42] Well, no, wait, hold on.

[44:43] I was gonna ask it.

[44:44] Let me ask it in my way.

[44:45] The great mind meld, Elliot.

[44:48] So I watched it and I was thinking,

[44:51] okay, I know Elliot hates stuff

[44:53] that's just like, see how much of a good time we had.

[44:58] And I understand that in many situations,

[45:01] in this case, because of all that history

[45:05] with these actors,

[45:08] and the movie is absolutely coasting on this.

[45:10] It is not about like,

[45:11] oh, these characters are cutting loose.

[45:12] It's like, isn't it fun?

[45:13] You're seeing Clooney and Julia Roberts act drunk,

[45:17] play beer pong and dance around, real silly.

[45:22] That's what this is being sold on.

[45:24] It was fun to me and I still, I enjoyed it.

[45:27] I understand how it could be a rejection,

[45:29] but I was like, I wonder what Elliot thinks about it.

[45:31] Well, I want you to ask me

[45:32] because I did enjoy this part, but I'll tell you why.

[45:34] Because to me, this was the character.

[45:37] I have to say, in this scene,

[45:38] it is the characters dancing this way.

[45:40] They are those characters with their shared history,

[45:43] getting drunk and having a moment

[45:44] where they are deliberately embarrassing their daughter

[45:46] by dancing in a way that I can fully relate to as a parent

[45:49] because I love to embarrass my children.

[45:51] And so it was like, it wasn't just like someone shouting.

[45:55] Elliot, have you already picked out

[45:56] the like stained tighty whities

[45:57] you're gonna wear to answer the door

[45:59] when your sons start to bring dates home?

[46:01] No, but that's a great idea.

[46:03] I should be doing that.

[46:05] I got to pre-stain them with just like,

[46:07] like something you would stay in a deck with, yeah.

[46:10] Yeah.

[46:11] For me in this moment, it wasn't,

[46:14] oh, everyone in the cast is having a dance party.

[46:17] Now Lily's dancing, now Ren is dancing.

[46:19] It was the two of them,

[46:20] those two characters having fun dancing

[46:23] and the younger characters being embarrassed by it.

[46:25] And I was like, yeah, I like this.

[46:26] I like seeing these two.

[46:28] I like seeing these characters having fun in this way.

[46:30] Sure, I like seeing Julia Roberts and George Clooney

[46:32] having fun in some way,

[46:33] but I think the fact that it was partly for a story purpose

[46:36] and a character purpose made it for me where I was like,

[46:40] okay, I do enjoy this.

[46:41] This is a funny thing, as opposed to like,

[46:43] hey, we had such a great time making this movie.

[46:45] Don't you wish you were here?

[46:47] You know?

[46:48] No, no, it fits in the movie.

[46:49] And I guess I was too extreme in the way I put it.

[46:51] Like, I don't think that,

[46:53] like it does work on a character level.

[46:54] Like it makes sense in the movie at this place.

[46:58] And that's like, it doesn't feel like just a fuck around

[47:02] that they like decided to keep in.

[47:04] If the movie ended as the movie nailed,

[47:06] slash Accidental Love does,

[47:07] with a wedding scene where it's just all the actors

[47:10] dancing with each other,

[47:11] then I would have been like,

[47:12] shut this movie down, end it already.

[47:14] I don't need to see this, you know?

[47:15] But I do think that like a big part of it is like,

[47:20] if these were other actors doing this,

[47:23] it wouldn't have the same charge as like,

[47:25] oh, look at our like Hollywood royalty.

[47:28] Like what we have as Hollywood royalty these days,

[47:30] like fucking around.

[47:31] You say that, but if it was

[47:33] Juliette Binoche and Stellan Skarsgård,

[47:34] I think you'd be pretty injured.

[47:38] Yeah, you're right, you're right.

[47:40] Yeah.

[47:41] So they drank a little too much

[47:44] and George and David wake up in bed together,

[47:46] very hungover, but they insist nothing happened.

[47:50] Although, you know, they're a little uncomfortable

[47:51] and especially so because they're in George's room

[47:54] and who arrives first thing in the morning?

[47:56] That's right, it's Paul, George's boyfriend.

[48:00] They make a big hullabaloo about trying to trick him

[48:04] into thinking it was somebody else's room.

[48:06] That they switched rooms.

[48:07] But he like, it's kind of no point.

[48:10] I wanna call something out here that annoyed me

[48:13] and I also saw that our friend-

[48:14] Go for it, this is the perfect venue for that.

[48:16] Yeah, our friend Matt Singer also made this point

[48:19] on his Letterboxd Review, but like,

[48:21] you know, he has to put on some pants

[48:24] and so he puts on Julia Roberts' character's yoga pants

[48:27] and she's like, and he's like, they're too tight,

[48:30] you know, and he's like, they're yoga pants, I'll stretch.

[48:32] And then you see him in the next scene,

[48:33] he's wearing these baggy yoga pants.

[48:34] They're like hammer pants, they're like genie pants.

[48:37] They're like harem pants.

[48:38] And like, the gag would be, the joke would be,

[48:41] put Clooney in spandex, like make it real tight on Clooney.

[48:47] I wanna see that shit flopping around.

[48:50] Just Clooney it up, yeah.

[48:52] I mean, it just doesn't look weird

[48:53] that he's wearing these pants at all.

[48:54] I didn't plunk down my hard-earned money

[48:57] for a fucking Peacock subscription

[49:00] to not see George Clooney's fucking stuff

[49:02] mashed into a tiny pair of yoga pants.

[49:05] Give me that.

[49:06] Yoga toe, that's what Stu says.

[49:09] Wait, yoga toed?

[49:11] Yeah, yoga toesers.

[49:14] Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.

[49:16] Okay, that makes sense.

[49:16] The porn version of yoga hosers,

[49:18] which was more profitable than yoga hosers.

[49:21] It would have to be.

[49:24] Most people didn't know it was a parody.

[49:25] That was the thing.

[49:26] They just thought it was a straightforward porn, yeah.

[49:28] Yeah.

[49:28] Okay, so.

[49:29] It's like airplane in zero hour.

[49:30] People don't know the source material, yeah.

[49:32] Exactly.

[49:33] Okay, so they end up doing a little family trip,

[49:36] and David bulls a head like he's a dad

[49:40] and makes them all go on a trip to a temple

[49:43] that is bad luck to visit to

[49:44] if you are an unmarried couple.

[49:46] Now, this is a real temple.

[49:47] I don't know if it's really bad luck

[49:49] to visit if you're unmarried.

[49:51] At the temple, Paul decides to propose to Georgia,

[49:54] which, again, don't fucking do this shit.

[49:56] Don't propose to people at,

[49:58] don't propose to somebody at.

[50:00] else's fucking wedding. No. That's their function, dude. Let them have their moment. Save it.

[50:05] Take her on a different. You're a pilot. You can take her anywhere in the world. OK. It's

[50:11] how it works. Yeah. Nonetheless. Well, it's not too far. Like, I think we're in between.

[50:16] Yeah. So Paul. Yeah. Guys, I'm known for having a gift of hyperbole. Yeah. People. Yeah. Hyperboles

[50:26] is the muse that you that you worship and who gifted you with with your talents. Yeah. Again,

[50:31] sometimes a curse. Sometimes, you know, I'm sure the ancient Greek story of who is cursed with the

[50:38] gift of hyperbole. But one time he walked into an ancient Greek diner and unfortunately ordered

[50:45] ten thousand eggs. I would eat every one of them because, A, they're very expensive now and B,

[50:53] a great source of protein, you know? Yeah. And you can do so many different things with an egg.

[50:58] Yeah. Scrambling. You walk into an egg council commercial. I don't understand where we are.

[51:05] Yeah. I mean, if we could get sponsored by an egg council. So, yeah. The idea of eggs

[51:10] could sponsor us. Yeah. Eggs, if you're listening, please consider sponsoring the

[51:14] flop house. If you heard a desperation in my voice during the Max Fund drive,

[51:17] it's because I need more eggs. OK, so they're at this temple. He proposed the Georgia. She

[51:23] is immediately nervous. We all knew this was happening. She was not going to be into it.

[51:28] But before she can respond, he gets bitten by a venomous snake and they have to rush him to the

[51:32] hospital. And the whole family's there. She has to suck the poison out. And it had the gag that

[51:39] I've always wanted to be in it, where like her lips then get like numb and she seems woozy. Like

[51:45] they don't do anything with that. She seems fine. The next thing I always do is the idea of Julia

[51:49] Roberts being poisoned by a snake. It's terrifying. It's hilarious. It's traumatic.

[51:54] The idea that that could happen to America's sweetheart. Yeah. And once it was her character

[51:58] from my best friend's wedding, who's basically a villain, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, sure.

[52:02] Yeah, she's she's a bad guy. She's yeah. OK, so the family's kind of divided when Lily finds out

[52:10] her mother was proposed to. She's like that guy. He's boring. And David tries to put on a brave

[52:17] face like he has in many situations in this movie. But, you know, it's bothering him.

[52:22] And she doesn't respond. So David goes ahead with Lily and Getty on the next part of their trip,

[52:28] which Georgia quickly follows them on, though it's a little weird because they end up going to a more

[52:33] remote island, I guess. And David forgets or just is unable to successfully tie up Getty's boat,

[52:40] which then floats away. To be honest, why is why is David being given the job of tying up the boat?

[52:45] That doesn't. Yeah, I mean, Getty's already suspicious of him. So the boat floats away.

[52:51] And then Georgia showed up right around then. Because much like hope, she gets this boat floats.

[52:56] Oh, well, I mean, most boats float. So it's not really made out of hope. Maybe the boat was made

[53:00] out of a thing to say that actually that lots of tracks were made out of which is like if I was

[53:06] shown a boat, my first question wouldn't be, does it float? Because I was not David Letterman,

[53:11] I guess, because his first question would be, does it? So so they end up getting stranded.

[53:19] It's David, Georgia, Lily and Getty. They get stranded in the jungle and they realize that

[53:26] they're going to have to spend the night out there camping, which seems a little extreme,

[53:30] but everybody's kind of OK with it. I mean, they are very quickly talking about killing a pig.

[53:36] Yes. Yeah. The the the guys got and hunt this pig. And I got to say that I honestly sort of

[53:43] think this movie is better at romance between Clooney and the groom than between Clooney and

[53:49] Julia Roberts. Like I get a sense of like how he warms up to this guy over time in a way that I

[53:55] don't really understand why they get back together. And also and also you can tell the actor playing

[54:00] Getty really wants George Clooney to like him. Like even when he's like disappointed in him,

[54:05] there's still this feeling of like, but we're cool, right? Like George Clooney,

[54:08] you know, so I think to be honest, George Clooney is like, if we're cool, we're cool.

[54:13] That's fine. If this movie was not nothing, nothing against Julia Roberts. But if this

[54:17] movie was George Clooney and his prospective son in law out in the jungle bonding while they get

[54:23] lost, like that's that could be a really funny movie. Yeah. So while they fall in love and he

[54:28] breaks up the wedding by marrying the groom, I don't know that, though, while they're hunting

[54:33] a pig. It's OK. His daughter is terrible. OK. In this version of the movie. Yeah. Lily is

[54:38] searching for matches in her mom's bag and she finds the stolen rings. So we have a big stolen

[54:46] rings. Everyone cut banana. Everyone kind of airs their concerns and fears, all their grievances.

[54:53] And at the end of the day, it just kind of brings everybody closer the next morning.

[54:59] The fact is that, yeah, they're talking out. Yeah, they're talking out the problems a little

[55:02] bit. Yeah, that's good. So that's a healthy way to deal with things instead of lying about

[55:07] everything. I'm stealing bananas and weird, unnatural ways that Dan does not approve of.

[55:13] Don't agree with just not magic. That's yeah. Because when you use magic, there's a cost.

[55:19] And in this case, it burned up some of her goodwill with her daughter. Yeah. OK. By the way,

[55:23] if you here's a little teaser for the guys, you don't know anything about it yet. But I'll say it

[55:30] now for you and the listeners. If you like me talking passionately about magic,

[55:36] you're going to want to watch that streaming show that we did for the Bell House.

[55:40] Anyway, the movie Magic starring Anthony Hopkins as a ventriloquist.

[55:45] Magic Mike, et cetera. OK, so the next morning, I just I hate to interrupt you more. But the idea

[55:51] that magic has a cost that like Julie Roberts is like to steal those rings. I'm going to have to

[55:55] fake that. I cut a banana inside the peel. It's going to take three days off the end of my life.

[55:59] But you know what? All magic has a cost and I've got to pay it. That's yeah, that's the bill is

[56:03] going to come eventually. Yeah. OK, so the next morning, David is watching the sunrise and he

[56:11] reveals to Georgia that he never sold the land that he had attempted to build their dream house on.

[56:17] And then they they exchange a little kiss before realizing, no, this isn't for us.

[56:22] Also, at this point, I'm like, there's still 30 minutes in this movie.

[56:25] Uh, so they end up not getting together. The rest is just one very long sex scene

[56:29] between George Clooney and Julia Roberts. 30 minutes long. I mean, that's that's a that's

[56:34] a decent scene. Like I'd pay ten bucks for that PPV. Yeah, I mean, it would make it instantly

[56:40] one of the most successful movies ever made. Yeah. So they go back. Blue is the warmest color

[56:45] style. I mean, very extreme sexy. Yeah. There's so little sex in movies these days. That would

[56:50] be interesting if we just chose one a year that had all of the sex like sex scenes. Here's the

[56:56] thing, Dan. Here's the thing, Dan. There's plenty of access to to sex videos. I don't

[57:01] understand what you're saying. That's not the same fucking thing. That's a dumb argument.

[57:06] Not the same. Yeah. Yeah. The argument that pornography is available. So we shouldn't show

[57:10] any chemistry or sex in movies. Well, that's not what I'm saying. No, I know. I'm just I'm

[57:15] putting words in your mouth when normally words come out of your mouth at a rapid speed.

[57:21] Yeah, that's why Stuart's trying to put some of them back in to close the mouth,

[57:27] to keep it blocked up. More words can't come out. He's worried that like when Ant-Man is big,

[57:32] you know, like there's so much energy expended. You got to eat when you come back down. Yeah,

[57:37] that makes sense. Sure. Sure. Yeah. It's not a sort of deep horizon junk shot.

[57:42] Fill my mouth with crap words. Yeah. Stop the spill. So they end up back at the resort. Lily

[57:48] puts her foot down that she is getting married and her parents are either on it, on board or not.

[57:54] Paul again tries to propose to Georgia and he does the old classic bit where he stands up too

[58:01] fast from being on his knees and he bangs his head into her nose. This is the kind of thing

[58:07] doesn't cause any lasting damage. When you're in a relationship where you spend a lot of time

[58:11] physically close to someone, you do end up bumping into them a bunch. And then David tips.

[58:19] So just want to say this is something that this is a real touch in the movie that every now and

[58:23] then, every now and then you might bump into somebody that you're close to. Yeah. So I don't

[58:27] know. Meanwhile, David is swimming in the pool fully clothed and he tips the bellhop with a wet

[58:33] bill, which I'm like, in Indonesia, do they like, maybe I was just assuming that they had

[58:39] like similar bills to like Australia or New Zealand. That's that like plasticky stuff that

[58:43] doesn't get wet and soggy. Again, don't know enough about Indonesian currency. Okay. Uh,

[58:48] so they all that under the possibly a goof. Yeah. Right. It's a new, not very popular section of,

[58:57] uh, of IMDb. Although actually I feel like it would be super popular because

[59:01] people say anything could go in there. Well, that's, that's on SMDB Schrodinger's movie

[59:05] database where it could be a goof. It could be, not be a goof until we find out. We don't know

[59:09] for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so everybody gets close to SNM DB, which is a different database,

[59:17] but equally arguably more popular mouth. Oh, very much more popular. Yeah. Uh, so they get,

[59:24] everybody gets over their bullshit and time to see, uh, Lily and get a, get married.

[59:29] Uh, the ceremony is very colorful and there is no mischief at all. Get a, even gives David a

[59:35] chance to object and he doesn't, he turns it into a, uh, a way to puff everybody up.

[59:40] But then what does Lily pull? I don't fucking remember. I've only watched the movie twice.

[59:46] He's about to, he's about to stab a handkerchief with a knife to seal the marriage. And she goes,

[59:53] wait. And everyone stops and he gets this look on his face. Like, Oh no, the groom does. And she

[59:56] goes, just kidding. And if I was the groom, I would have been like,

[1:00:00] this wedding is off goodbye i love you and i cannot handle that you know how vulnerable i

[1:00:04] am right now there's been too much mischief already uh okay so everybody's happy georgia

[1:00:10] says no to paul who takes it okay actually uh david and georgia uh board the ferry back to

[1:00:17] the airport and they reconnect and they're like you know what let's just stay in bali and then

[1:00:22] they jump off the boat jump off the boat movie they decide to stay in bali which is good because

[1:00:28] the rage virus is all over the rest by this point it's spread like a cajun yeah this and this is

[1:00:33] when you i always realize how rich these characters are because it's not just that they stay at this

[1:00:38] very fancy hotel but they're like you know what let's just do it and they jump off the boat not

[1:00:42] worrying that their phones will get wet because who cares they'll just buy another phone yeah i

[1:00:47] don't know they're they're old maybe they're fun they still have like flip phones yes they're gonna

[1:00:51] like arrange for like i guess all of their stuff to be moved to them there rather than going home

[1:00:57] first yeah yeah they'll just have it packed up and they'll instantly buy a house in bali yeah i

[1:01:02] mean he's like george clooney's just gonna get a job at like a beach bar and you know what he would

[1:01:06] be fucking incredible he would be great at that now and they don't show i don't they don't show

[1:01:11] the moment when when lily and getty are like wait but we're about to have our honeymoon here why are

[1:01:16] your parents yeah sticking around that's part two ticket to paradise two i will say it to

[1:01:22] ticket to be a number two i do think it is the power of movie stars

[1:01:29] and then it would be ticket to paradise three instead of the e of the two kids

[1:01:35] or the second one rather sorry dan uh no i just i think it does show the power of movie stars that

[1:01:41] like this ending where they're like sort of like tentatively like holding hands of the

[1:01:45] boat and seeing like if they're ready to like like i found it moving but it's great they're

[1:01:50] great that's a great moment yeah but it's also like me like as a man who is now middle-aged like

[1:01:57] tearing up at the idea of like new directions in your life new starts like all that like having

[1:02:04] like a shot you know like changing your life and like not that i'm unhappy right now but i've i've

[1:02:10] been through life changes um like i'm bringing a lot to that that's the movie isn't bringing it's

[1:02:17] it's like me plus like the power the star power and the rest of the film actually i just got a

[1:02:23] text from old old parker he says no that was his plan all along you're you're reading texts not

[1:02:29] something dan is this like the time when you saw your reflection in a snow-covered hill with a

[1:02:33] landslide coming down yeah that's exactly like that no but i mean you know it's i mean i felt

[1:02:40] genuinely moved and then they jumped off the boat and i'm like oh come on

[1:02:44] they're gonna do it this way oh it broke the spell it broke the spell well well it's me old

[1:02:49] parker i'm calling in now uh uh dan i just i wanted to end the movie with them holding hands

[1:02:54] and then of course a big the end like they always we used to do it in the old ways but they said

[1:03:00] they wanted them to jump off a boat and i said well you're the bosses i'm just the director i'm

[1:03:05] not in charge the studio head's in charge and he could blacklist me in a moment so uh and say by

[1:03:10] saying i'm a communist so i'll just do what he says and keep my old parker making movies don't

[1:03:15] you have i thought you insisted on final cut for this one oh well no i insist on final cut for all

[1:03:20] the bananas that i eat i want to cut them inside the peel but not too soon because they turn pretty

[1:03:25] brown you don't want to eat a banana that's too rotten you know i wanted to end on a freeze frame

[1:03:30] that said uh david and whatever julia roberts character's name is will return and took it to

[1:03:36] paradise paradise three that's right the sequel will be both the second and the third movie in

[1:03:41] the series part of the innovations we're trying to bring to this franchise then of course we do

[1:03:47] the fourth one which is called fork it to paradise slash 56 days later which is 28 days later times

[1:03:53] two and we'll finally combine these movies in the shared universe that they're in um so uh steward

[1:04:00] i don't know if you're aware of this but the movie also ended with some bloopers and i turned it off

[1:04:04] immediately i wanted to say about the bloopers that for a romantic comedy that is both light

[1:04:11] on the rom and the calm there are certain takes in the bloopers that i'm like why why was it like

[1:04:16] that's a funnier take yes like it's a usable funnier take why didn't you use that pointed

[1:04:21] towards a slightly funnier movie yeah and it seemed like it was like i guess if you just

[1:04:26] let it cluny and julia roberts hang out it would probably be charming here well that was like

[1:04:31] during the press tour anytime the two of them would be seated in chairs next to each other i'm

[1:04:35] like i'll watch this yeah yeah yeah well speaking of which let's give our final judgments about

[1:04:41] whether you should watch this i mean or not like even whatever we say it doesn't have the effect

[1:04:47] uh i'm glad you clarified that this is not a legally binding order we will not show up at

[1:04:52] your home dan's like what's the point of it anyway we just banged on their door why the

[1:04:59] fuck aren't you watching tickets to paradise right now you have no excuse final judgments

[1:05:04] this is a good bad movie a bad bad movie a movie you kind of liked i gotta say like ultimately

[1:05:10] i did kind of like it like it's it's the least a movie can be while still being kind of enjoyable

[1:05:17] like i i to pull back the curtain a bit i am moving right now so i was not paying the utmost

[1:05:25] attention at all points to take it to paradise because i had other business that uh will need

[1:05:31] to be attended to because tomorrow is literally moving day dan was busy filling crates with straw

[1:05:37] and then then nailing the top shot yeah and honestly if you are in a similar situation

[1:05:43] all of his alien idols this is the ideal kind of movie to watch because you will always know what

[1:05:48] is going on and every once in a while you'll look over and you just see your your movie buddies

[1:05:54] george and julia hanging out together and it'll give you a smile and you're like i bet this

[1:05:59] vacation was super fun for them yeah it's just a mild i mildly liked it i didn't have

[1:06:04] i didn't there's something i didn't feel negatively towards the movie other than feeling like it was

[1:06:07] just sort of bland what do you say stew no i'm on i'm kind of on the same boat as you like it's uh

[1:06:14] it's a very pretty movie to look at uh it is not uh it's not going to challenge you in any way

[1:06:23] um you don't have to think too hard about how you feel about the characters uh there's not really

[1:06:29] any twists and or turns uh yeah it's uh it's basically like a bath of a movie um so if you

[1:06:38] want to take a long bath and watch a movie take it to paradise yeah i it's not i can't say it's a

[1:06:44] movie that i liked but it also i feel similarly it's it's a real it's it's a real comfort food

[1:06:50] easygoing sit down and just kind of let the movie take you through jungles to beaches type of movie

[1:06:58] it's not it's it's everything you guys and this was australia was where this was shot

[1:07:03] uh in australia yeah okay time to book my trip hopefully i'll run into george and julia since

[1:07:08] they stuck around right yeah uh i mean they they stayed at the end they jumped off that boat yeah

[1:07:13] listeners give me a list of uh things i need to do when i go to wick queensland queensland

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[1:12:29] Okay, well, now let us move on to letters from listeners.

[1:12:36] And the first letter is from Brian, last name withheld.

[1:12:40] Who writes?

[1:12:41] Blessed.

[1:12:42] Hiya, floppers.

[1:12:43] Oh, wow, Brian.

[1:12:43] Brian, blessed.

[1:12:44] Then you gotta read it in the cool voice.

[1:12:45] Yeah, gotta yell it, gotta yell it.

[1:12:48] The recent discussion.

[1:12:49] Oh, sorry.

[1:12:51] Dan, 100% for trying, A for effort.

[1:12:55] I'm glad you stopped before you blew out your throat

[1:12:57] trying to yell it, Brian, blessed.

[1:12:58] The recent discussion of the podcast's

[1:13:00] repeated discussions of a Goofy movie

[1:13:04] made me think of a scene.

[1:13:06] I was just talking about this the other day.

[1:13:08] I still haven't seen that shit.

[1:13:09] Made me think of a scene from the film

[1:13:12] that always sticks out to my mind.

[1:13:14] Max and his dad Goofy are playing 20 questions in the car.

[1:13:17] Goofy says man or woman, Max sighs and says man,

[1:13:20] to which Goofy immediately and correctly

[1:13:22] guesses Walt Disney.

[1:13:23] This is akin to playing Guess Who with your dad

[1:13:26] and his car has the true unknowable name of God on it.

[1:13:30] It truly brings up some horrifying implications.

[1:13:34] My question is, do you have any favorite

[1:13:36] or least favorite instances of breaking the fourth wall?

[1:13:40] Also, Stu, you should watch a Goofy movie.

[1:13:43] Keep it, boys.

[1:13:44] Brian, last name withheld.

[1:13:46] Daddy's in the room.

[1:13:47] Got you.

[1:13:50] Yeah, one of my bartenders yesterday

[1:13:51] was so angry that I had not seen a Goofy movie

[1:13:54] and she was just quoting lines from the movie,

[1:13:57] which was funny because I'm like,

[1:13:58] I couldn't tell if this was real or made up

[1:14:00] because I haven't seen it yet.

[1:14:02] Yeah.

[1:14:03] It was either a very impressive improv

[1:14:05] or it was just, it was actual recollection.

[1:14:08] I mean, I want fans of this, listeners of the show,

[1:14:10] please let us know, do you want us to do an episode

[1:14:13] on the Goofy movie at this point?

[1:14:15] I know you guys like it.

[1:14:17] It's a real touchstone for the generation

[1:14:19] that's like, what, 10 years younger than us?

[1:14:21] But what's, yeah, Goofy movie.

[1:14:23] Should we do it?

[1:14:24] Let us know.

[1:14:24] Okay, so least favorite,

[1:14:27] break the fourth wall, all of Deadpool.

[1:14:29] Okay, Dan, what about you?

[1:14:32] Oh, do you have a most favorite

[1:14:34] or are you just choosing to do least favorite?

[1:14:36] I was just starting.

[1:14:37] I figure we're just, this is like a jam session

[1:14:39] where we're just gonna like.

[1:14:40] Yeah, I was gonna say that one breaking

[1:14:43] of the fourth wall that I like is,

[1:14:45] I remember there's one point in Trading Places

[1:14:48] where the brothers are being very condescending

[1:14:50] to Eddie Murphy and he just like,

[1:14:53] like the one example of breaking the fourth wall

[1:14:55] in the entire movie is him making a face to the audience.

[1:14:59] And it's all the more powerful,

[1:15:01] just this like, this other less entirely

[1:15:04] traditional narrative film.

[1:15:06] Elliot, what do you got?

[1:15:07] Oh, I got a favorite.

[1:15:08] I like the bit in the Funny Games remake

[1:15:14] where something good seems to happen

[1:15:17] and they're like, nope, rewind.

[1:15:19] Throw it in your face.

[1:15:21] They're like, fuck you, you wanted a good thing to happen?

[1:15:24] Forget it.

[1:15:25] Panic you don't play that way.

[1:15:29] I have a lot of favorite fourth wall memories,

[1:15:31] to be honest.

[1:15:32] I feel like that's one of the reasons

[1:15:34] that Gremlins 2 was such a like pivotal movie

[1:15:37] for me growing up was that it kept pushing

[1:15:41] the boundaries of what it could do as a movie that exists.

[1:15:44] And then finally, when the Gremlins break the film

[1:15:47] and are just like in the theater with you,

[1:15:49] making shadow puppets and enraging Usher,

[1:15:52] Paul Bartel to the point that he goes

[1:15:54] and gets Hulk Hogan to scare them away like that.

[1:15:56] And that's something that,

[1:15:57] and then when the movie was on.

[1:15:58] I do like that Hulk Hogan waited

[1:16:01] until the Usher got him to get involved.

[1:16:03] He was curious whether that was the show or not.

[1:16:05] And that when they released the movie on video,

[1:16:06] they redid that segment to have it be them changing channels

[1:16:10] while you're watching the film.

[1:16:11] That was something that really blew my mind as a kid,

[1:16:13] which I still love.

[1:16:14] That's a fourth wall breaking moment.

[1:16:15] I just remember one that I like even more

[1:16:17] that in the Muppet movie,

[1:16:19] where they meet the electric mayhem

[1:16:21] and they start explaining what happened,

[1:16:23] like their story.

[1:16:24] And they read the screenplay.

[1:16:25] And they're like, oh, you know, like we can't do that.

[1:16:27] We can't explain what's happened so far

[1:16:28] to bore the audience.

[1:16:29] Just have them read the screenplay.

[1:16:31] Actually, I have another favorite one.

[1:16:33] It's in the game Metal Gear Solid

[1:16:35] when Psycho Mantis starts reading the contents

[1:16:37] of your memory card.

[1:16:38] And he's like, you like Castlevania, don't you?

[1:16:41] And I'm like, I did play Castlevania.

[1:16:43] This guy is psychic.

[1:16:44] Wow.

[1:16:45] The another one.

[1:16:46] Guys, video games are the new movies.

[1:16:48] Get on board or get left in dust.

[1:16:51] TV is the new novels.

[1:16:52] Video game is the new movies.

[1:16:54] And mime is the new pop song, which is interesting.

[1:16:57] So the other one is,

[1:16:59] this is a movie that has not aged as well

[1:17:00] for me as Gremlins 2,

[1:17:01] but the scene in Spaceballs

[1:17:03] where they need to find the heroes.

[1:17:04] So they get the video of Spaceballs

[1:17:06] and they're watching it

[1:17:07] and they go through the part

[1:17:08] where Dark Helmet gets hurt

[1:17:10] and he goes, erase that part.

[1:17:11] Never watch that part again.

[1:17:12] Like that was a joke that I always really liked.

[1:17:15] Yeah.

[1:17:16] Okay, well, the second and final letter

[1:17:20] is from Eve, spelled in the French manner

[1:17:23] with a Y-V-E-S.

[1:17:25] Last name withheld.

[1:17:27] Writes.

[1:17:27] Like St. Laurent?

[1:17:30] Favorite Warhammer movie.

[1:17:31] Hello, peaches.

[1:17:33] This one's for you guys.

[1:17:34] My friends and I like to watch movies

[1:17:36] that share themes or plot points

[1:17:38] with Warhammer while we paint our miniatures.

[1:17:41] A good guiding principle

[1:17:43] is if the movie could be described as,

[1:17:45] quote, grim dark.

[1:17:47] A term coined in an early Warhammer rule book

[1:17:49] describing how, quote,

[1:17:52] in the grim darkness of the far future,

[1:17:54] there is only war.

[1:17:55] Yeah.

[1:17:56] I love anytime-

[1:17:57] And hammers.

[1:17:59] I love anytime that Stuart has an excuse

[1:18:02] to talk hammy.

[1:18:03] So I figured I would write in to ask

[1:18:05] each of your favorite movies

[1:18:06] that share themes with Warhammer.

[1:18:07] A few examples of movies we have watched recently

[1:18:10] are Avenged Horizon, The Name of the Rose,

[1:18:13] and Mad God.

[1:18:14] Anyway, I hope that makes it clear enough,

[1:18:16] and if not, I'm sure Stuart can point you

[1:18:18] in the right direction.

[1:18:19] Love you guys, Eve.

[1:18:21] I'm gonna let Stuart point me in the right direction.

[1:18:24] Yeah, point us in the right direction.

[1:18:24] There's some obvious ones like Dread

[1:18:28] or Starship Troopers

[1:18:31] or, let's see.

[1:18:33] Would you say, would Mandy fall under that category or no?

[1:18:36] Maybe, maybe a little.

[1:18:37] That's a little,

[1:18:39] I mean, I feel like that's a little more psychological

[1:18:42] than Warhammer stuff generally is.

[1:18:43] Oh, maybe, okay.

[1:18:44] But maybe, I think there's a little bit there.

[1:18:47] Man, that's tough.

[1:18:49] I feel like a lot of sci-fi movies

[1:18:53] kind of err on the side of grim dark,

[1:18:55] and I'm probably fucking forgetting a bunch of good ones.

[1:18:58] Valhalla Rising is a good one.

[1:19:02] That kind of shit.

[1:19:02] What about Johnny Mnemonic?

[1:19:04] Yeah, maybe.

[1:19:05] It's, again, that's-

[1:19:06] Does he need to be more mnemonic?

[1:19:08] That's a little more cyber-punky,

[1:19:11] but yeah, I could see where it's like,

[1:19:13] depending on if you're painting some stuff

[1:19:15] that's from a necromunda gang or an inquisitorial retinue.

[1:19:22] Go on, Dan.

[1:19:22] Perfect sense.

[1:19:24] Or the movie Dragon Slayer, that kind of shit.

[1:19:26] Oh, Dragon Slayer.

[1:19:27] A favorite from my childhood.

[1:19:30] Great effects, great special effects.

[1:19:32] Classic ILM stuff.

[1:19:35] Let's move on to-

[1:19:36] You know the movie Conquest?

[1:19:37] The fantasy movie, Italian fantasy movie?

[1:19:40] I don't know that one.

[1:19:41] Oh, okay.

[1:19:42] It's a Lucio Fulci fantasy movie.

[1:19:44] I bet that would-

[1:19:45] That's probably why I don't know it.

[1:19:46] What are they conquesting, the Planet of the Apes?

[1:19:48] No, just a fantasy world.

[1:19:51] Okay.

[1:19:52] You're thinking of Conquest of the Planet of the Apes,

[1:19:54] a grim dark story.

[1:19:55] So it's not like a movie based on the villain

[1:19:58] from the Invincible comic.

[1:20:00] that like rips the main character's spine out or something?

[1:20:03] No, I don't think so.

[1:20:05] That's a violent comic book, dude.

[1:20:07] Yeah, it is.

[1:20:09] Okay.

[1:20:09] I don't know why you're mad at me.

[1:20:10] Yeah, I don't argue about it.

[1:20:12] I mean, I have my own violent comics, but you know.

[1:20:17] Let's move on to recommendations of letters of letters.

[1:20:21] The letters we've loved and loved.

[1:20:23] You're uh, your violent comic book recommendations.

[1:20:26] Let's look at the letters that we unfortunately lost this year.

[1:20:29] In memoriam.

[1:20:31] The letter E.

[1:20:32] Um, that's an important letter.

[1:20:34] That would be a big thing if that letter died.

[1:20:37] It's very personal to me.

[1:20:38] I use that letter every day.

[1:20:40] And will the mainstream media cover his death?

[1:20:43] No.

[1:20:44] No, not the way, not how it happened anyway.

[1:20:46] It stands for entertainment, right?

[1:20:49] Well, only if there's an exclamation point afterwards

[1:20:51] and it's on a mic cube at a red carpet premiere.

[1:20:53] Only if Charles is in front of it and cheese is behind it.

[1:20:59] So you're saying the restaurant is called Charles E. Cheese?

[1:21:03] Yeah, that's what Entourage is all about.

[1:21:05] So, sorry.

[1:21:07] Let's recommend movies.

[1:21:09] Movies that we've seen and liked.

[1:21:10] Like I said.

[1:21:11] Oh, movies.

[1:21:12] I've been busy with a lot of movie preparation.

[1:21:18] You've been too busy with moving for movies.

[1:21:20] Moving.

[1:21:20] Sorry, I don't think that's true.

[1:21:22] I'm sure Dan has seen 10 more movies than LA.

[1:21:25] We recorded two in a row and I'm in the middle of moving.

[1:21:28] My brain is moving.

[1:21:30] I'm moving right now.

[1:21:30] So I was only able to go to the theaters twice every day.

[1:21:33] We had Max Fund Drive moving.

[1:21:36] I got sick.

[1:21:38] What else?

[1:21:39] Sick of not watching movies.

[1:21:40] Prepping for the live show.

[1:21:41] Like a lot of stuff was going on.

[1:21:43] But we did actually go out to the theater.

[1:21:47] Audra was kind enough to see that I needed a break and be like,

[1:21:49] why don't we go see John Wick 4?

[1:21:52] She's like, let's just go see a four hour movie?

[1:21:56] Well, we saw it at like nine in the night.

[1:21:58] We were not going to be doing anything else at that point.

[1:22:02] So yeah, we went and saw John Wick 4.

[1:22:04] No big surprise.

[1:22:05] Everyone's already said it's good.

[1:22:08] It's not.

[1:22:09] I'm not recommending some.

[1:22:11] Yeah.

[1:22:11] What's your hot take on John Wick 4, Dan?

[1:22:13] Sleeper.

[1:22:15] My hot take is, hey, look.

[1:22:18] If you put care into stunt work and you don't chop it all up

[1:22:23] and you shoot it real nice, it's a good movie.

[1:22:26] Dan, I'm going to see it in a couple of days.

[1:22:29] But can you break it to me?

[1:22:33] How is Scott Adkins in a fat suit?

[1:22:36] Amazing.

[1:22:36] OK.

[1:22:37] Amazing.

[1:22:38] I really think that John Wick 4 feels kind of like

[1:22:43] the Fury Road of shoot-em-up movies.

[1:22:46] Oh, high praise.

[1:22:46] OK.

[1:22:47] More than the movie shoot-em-up, since Fury Road is one of the greatest movies ever made.

[1:22:51] So it's very high praise.

[1:22:52] I mean, it's not quite to that level, but it has the same sort of consistent

[1:22:56] relentlessness and meticulous attention to the action and just beautiful looking.

[1:23:03] It's very good.

[1:23:04] OK.

[1:23:06] Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

[1:23:07] I'm going to recommend a movie that also received a fair amount of accolades,

[1:23:10] at least when it was first released.

[1:23:12] But I rewatched it, and it also features one of the leads of this movie.

[1:23:16] I'm going to recommend the movie Michael Clayton,

[1:23:19] starring George Clooney, and also featuring a number of great performances.

[1:23:23] Sidney Pollack is great in it.

[1:23:24] And also my girl, Tilda Swinton, she's so good in like super normcore.

[1:23:30] Tilda Swinton, it's amazing.

[1:23:33] To see her playing that normcore character and to be doing it so powerfully.

[1:23:39] She's so good.

[1:23:40] I'll just think about it sometimes, that performance.

[1:23:42] And I'm like, what an amazing performance that was.

[1:23:44] And Clooney, watching that movie, I was also like, how old was Clooney here?

[1:23:48] And he's not much older than I am.

[1:23:50] Timeless.

[1:23:51] And there's something about it.

[1:23:53] Like, I'm a sucker for movies where you have a protagonist who is very skilled at something,

[1:23:59] but also very bad at other things.

[1:24:03] Like somebody who is good at-

[1:24:04] So Spider-Man.

[1:24:05] Well, Spider-Man, or like, I mean, the one I always lean into is like Jack

[1:24:09] Aubrey from the Master and Commander books.

[1:24:11] Like somebody who is very talented at one specific area of their life,

[1:24:14] but a lot of the rest of their life, they're a total fuck up.

[1:24:18] And George Clooney's character, Michael Clayton, is a little bit like that.

[1:24:21] Like he is a lawyer.

[1:24:23] He is very powerful, but also that power is controlled within the firm he's in.

[1:24:27] And his personal life is kind of a mess.

[1:24:30] And he is brought in to fix an issue within his firm.

[1:24:33] That problem being Tom Wilkinson.

[1:24:37] And yeah, it's a movie that like, watching it again, I'm like, this is an adult movie.

[1:24:42] This is like a movie for grownups.

[1:24:46] Because it's not like, it's not particularly flashy.

[1:24:48] You have to pay attention.

[1:24:49] There's a lot of little nuance and details.

[1:24:51] And the performances are incredible.

[1:24:54] And it just, I think it just dropped on HBO Max.

[1:24:56] So go check out Michael Clayton.

[1:24:59] Yeah, that's another great movie.

[1:25:00] I'm going to recommend a kind of lesser-

[1:25:02] And it was directed by the guy who wrote the screenplay for The Cutting Edge.

[1:25:08] Interesting.

[1:25:08] The Cutting Edge is a movie that had a big impression on me when I saw it in the theaters

[1:25:13] as a kid, because it was the first time I had ever seen a movie with a non-conclusive ending.

[1:25:19] Where it was left up to you, the audience, to decide whether or not they were going to win

[1:25:22] this medal or competition or whatever.

[1:25:24] Anyway, I'm going to recommend a movie that's a little bit of a smaller movie.

[1:25:27] This is a movie from 1989.

[1:25:28] It's an independent film called Chameleon Street.

[1:25:31] Written by, directed by, and starring Wendell B. Harris Jr.

[1:25:35] And it is based on the true story of a con artist from Detroit who,

[1:25:40] in a, it's similar in some ways to a harder-edged catch-me-if-you-can.

[1:25:44] He was a con artist who would, he pretended to be a doctor for some time, for a certain

[1:25:48] amount of time.

[1:25:49] He pretended to be, I think, a lawyer at one point.

[1:25:53] He faked a kidnapping to try to get some ransom money, or faked an extortion, not kidnapping,

[1:25:58] faked a blackmail type scenario.

[1:26:01] And basically the movie is presenting, and he was also black, and the movie is presenting

[1:26:06] this character as someone who is finding that it is easier for him to take on fake

[1:26:12] roles and fool the white world around him into thinking he's something he's not than

[1:26:17] it is for him to succeed through the normal channels.

[1:26:21] But some of that might be because he is afraid of admitting he might fail if that happens.

[1:26:26] And so it's a really, like, I felt like, thorough portrait of this very out-of-the-ordinary

[1:26:33] character.

[1:26:34] But it's also a pretty funny movie.

[1:26:35] By the end of the movie, it starts getting a little disturbing because the character

[1:26:40] is kind of pushing what he's capable of doing in terms of fooling people.

[1:26:44] But at times, it's really funny.

[1:26:46] And Wendell B. Harris, who made the whole movie and starred in it, is super charismatic

[1:26:50] and fun to watch.

[1:26:51] So that's what I'm recommending, Chameleon Street.

[1:26:54] Sorry, I just have to jump back a second to Stewart and he's checking my receipt that

[1:27:02] by the writer of The Cutting Edge, Stewart was talking about who I thought he was talking

[1:27:06] about, Tony Gilroy, who more notably right now is known for being the person behind Andor,

[1:27:12] let's say, like right in the zeitgeist, but many, many other major pictures.

[1:27:17] And wasn't he also the man behind-

[1:27:18] I'm not putting down The Cutting Edge, which is a wonderful film, but it's a funny way

[1:27:22] to refer to him.

[1:27:23] And I think, and didn't he also write, oh no, it's Dan Gilroy who wrote Real Steel.

[1:27:26] Never mind.

[1:27:26] That was Dan Gilroy, his brother.

[1:27:29] There's no reason you can't say I'm the writer, say the man behind The Cutting Edge.

[1:27:33] No, you are.

[1:27:34] Look, I love The Cutting Edge.

[1:27:36] I have a lot of affection for The Cutting Edge.

[1:27:37] It's just a funny way of referring to him.

[1:27:41] Yes, I'm known for The Cutting Edge.

[1:27:44] People talk about Martin Scorsese and I go, oh yeah, the director of Boxcar Bertha.

[1:27:50] Everyone knows what I'm talking about.

[1:27:51] It's like how Audrey had cable for a very specific part of her childhood.

[1:27:57] And so when she hears Wesley Snipes and Woody Harrelson, she doesn't think white men can't

[1:28:02] jump.

[1:28:02] It's all money train, baby.

[1:28:06] And she made you watch Money Train, right?

[1:28:08] Yeah.

[1:28:08] That is a confusing movie.

[1:28:10] That's a movie that does not know what it's about.

[1:28:12] It has like three plots and one kind of wraps up 30 minutes before the end of the movie.

[1:28:17] And you're like, huh, I thought that was going to be a bigger thing.

[1:28:20] But there's a train full of money, right?

[1:28:21] There is a money train.

[1:28:23] So on that level, it's technically correct.

[1:28:26] Yeah, the best kind of correct.

[1:28:28] As the other guy, the head bureaucrat in Futurama says, anyway, hey, this was fun, but now it's

[1:28:39] done.

[1:28:39] I had a good time.

[1:28:40] So in a way, it was a lesson that all things are transitory.

[1:28:45] Thank you, Dan.

[1:28:45] You really did achieve enlightenment recently.

[1:28:47] Yeah, life can't just be peaks.

[1:28:49] There must be valleys.

[1:28:50] Yeah, ups and downs, you know.

[1:28:52] Hidden valleys and hidden valley ranches.

[1:28:54] One of the ups is going to be coming up pretty soon here on the 22nd when we debut the stream

[1:29:02] from our live show, which you should totally tune in.

[1:29:05] It's our first time.

[1:29:06] It's going to look super professional.

[1:29:08] You're going to be blown away.

[1:29:09] You're like, who are these movie stars?

[1:29:11] Those movie stars are us.

[1:29:12] Just regular Joe Schmoes.

[1:29:13] Yeah, I mean, I'm not a Joe Schmoe.

[1:29:15] Giuliano Roberts.

[1:29:17] I'm honestly really excited for this presentation that I put together for this one.

[1:29:21] I hope that I hope that I'm not, you know, talking it up and it'll turn out that by the

[1:29:27] time we said it was a big failure.

[1:29:31] But I'm really excited about it.

[1:29:33] You said it's about magic.

[1:29:34] So I can only assume it's about like your hunt for a fucking like a white lotus or some other

[1:29:39] like Lord of the Pit or some other rare Magic the Gathering card.

[1:29:42] Yeah, exactly.

[1:29:43] Something is something he really needs.

[1:29:44] That's really rare.

[1:29:45] But then he just ended up with what a prodigal sorcerer.

[1:29:47] It's like, oh, yeah, who cares?

[1:29:49] Yeah, ding him for one point.

[1:29:52] Might as well just get a land for that.

[1:29:55] But that's the Flophouse April 22nd.

[1:29:57] Do you want tickets for it?

[1:29:58] Do you want a chance to get a?

[1:30:00] where you get to talk to us directly,

[1:30:02] then go to FlophousePodcast.com slash stream.

[1:30:06] FlophousePodcast.com slash stream.

[1:30:08] Tickets are available now.

[1:30:10] And during the show, you get a chance

[1:30:11] to get some of the exclusive merchandise.

[1:30:14] Some of my, maybe my favorite merchandise

[1:30:15] we've ever seen done for the Flophouse.

[1:30:17] This is gonna be a real professional show.

[1:30:19] And yeah, watch, the video is just a total crap show

[1:30:21] of us falling over and things like that.

[1:30:24] As long as we're talking about stuff in the future,

[1:30:26] unless something dramatic happens

[1:30:29] and we have to change plans,

[1:30:32] the next episode will also be a rom-com

[1:30:34] and we'll have Hallie Haglund back on,

[1:30:36] everyone's favorite, certainly my wife's favorite member

[1:30:40] of the Flophouse family.

[1:30:41] Don't worry, as we were recording,

[1:30:43] I received an email in which she was trying to make plans

[1:30:45] for that day with me and some other people.

[1:30:47] And I reminded her,

[1:30:48] no, no, you have plans for that day already.

[1:30:50] So don't worry, she'll be there.

[1:30:52] Okay, thank you.

[1:30:54] But yeah, this has been great.

[1:30:56] For the Flophouse, well, I'll thank Alex Smith, I guess,

[1:30:59] before I say for the Flophouse,

[1:31:00] I'll thank our producer, editor, sound guy.

[1:31:03] He writes music for us sometimes.

[1:31:05] He's really quite a talented man, Alex Smith.

[1:31:08] You can find him on the socials at HowlDotty.

[1:31:11] Thank you to Maximum Fun, our network.

[1:31:13] Go to MaximumFun.org for other great shows.

[1:31:17] But for the Flophouse, I have been Dan McCoy.

[1:31:19] I've been Stuart Ticket Stew Paradise Wellington.

[1:31:24] I'm Elliot Kalin saying again,

[1:31:25] go to FlophousePodcast.com slash stream

[1:31:28] and also saying thank you to everybody

[1:31:30] who pledged to support us during Max Fun Drive.

[1:31:32] We really appreciate it.

[1:31:33] It is incredibly important to us

[1:31:36] and just makes us feel good in many ways,

[1:31:38] not the least is that now we can pay our bills too.

[1:31:40] That's a good way to feel good.

[1:31:41] So thank you, everybody.

[1:31:43] I've been Elliot Kalin of the Flophouse.

[1:31:47] Bye.

[1:31:52] Yeah, you want cool people to like you.

[1:31:54] I get it.

[1:31:55] Yeah, it's a basic human need.

[1:31:56] It goes back to the caveman.

[1:31:59] And that one caveman with sunglasses.

[1:32:01] That was the first invention

[1:32:03] before fire in the wheel with sunglasses.

[1:32:06] He goes, mm, Ogg's future is so bright, Ogg needs shades.

[1:32:09] Wow, Gary Larson's like,

[1:32:11] I can't believe these dickheads are stealing my bits.

[1:32:14] Hey, he gave it up.

[1:32:15] He walked away from the game, man.

[1:32:17] Yeah, we want to make a cartoon about a cow.

[1:32:20] That's our prerogative.

[1:32:22] I will say, maybe it's because I read them so many times

[1:32:25] that I remember all of them and the surprise is gone.

[1:32:27] But I was doing some joke writing research

[1:32:30] and I was like, I'd love to get some Farside stuff in here.

[1:32:31] And I'm rereading Farside comics and I'm like,

[1:32:33] these are not quite as funny to me as they once were.

[1:32:36] And I wonder why that is.

[1:32:37] Maybe it's just because that kind of off-kilter thing

[1:32:39] is so prevalent now, I don't know.

[1:32:42] Maybe Gary Larson just needs the right project pitch to him.

[1:32:45] Like maybe, I feel like he'd be a great penciler

[1:32:47] for like a Punisher book.

[1:32:50] I would love to see.

[1:32:51] I mean, Evan Dorkin did a Predator series at one point.

[1:32:54] Yeah, he's great.

[1:32:56] We're talking talented artists here.

[1:32:57] I'd love to see Gary Larson do a Punisher book, yeah.

[1:33:01] The Punisher's just constantly blowing away

[1:33:03] women with beehive hairdos.

[1:33:06] Yeah.

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