FH Mini 87 - Jim Possible?

[0:00] Hey everyone, welcome to the Flophouse, I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:08] I'm Stuart Wellington, sorry.

[0:11] Stuart's already on the beaches of Greece.

[0:13] Guys, I zoned out because I remembered that Lars von Trier posted on Instagram today an

[0:20] offer for people to send in a submission to be his girlfriend, and he put his actual email

[0:27] address on the video.

[0:30] That would be an off-putting thing to suddenly remember in the middle of a podcast taping.

[0:33] I'm Elliot Kalin, and I'm the other co-host, and I can't wait to tell you later in the

[0:37] show about Flop TV, our monthly live video show, but we'll get to that later in the show.

[0:42] Or you could just go to theflophouse.simpletics.com for tickets, but I'll tell you about it later.

[0:47] So what we usually do on the show in our so-called main episodes is to watch a bad movie and

[0:54] then talk about it, and then we do these minis, which are more freeform, do what you like.

[0:58] We trade around who has evidence by what you've already listened to, who's in charge.

[1:03] These are more the jazz episodes, you know.

[1:06] So I'll be heading up this mini, and allow me to start with an introduction that provides

[1:12] a modicum of the illusion of a framework and reason behind what I'm about to do.

[1:19] Okay.

[1:20] Here we go.

[1:21] Jim Belushi.

[1:22] For much of his career, he's been a punching bag for critics.

[1:27] He was often criticized unfairly for not being his brother, John, and was often criticized

[1:31] more fairly for just not being that funny.

[1:34] I think it was fair when they criticized him for not being his brother, John, when he would

[1:37] catfish women and show up having pretended to be his brother, John.

[1:41] That was, yeah.

[1:42] But yeah, Jim Belushi has been the poster child for schlubby white guy mediocrity.

[1:47] He's had a minor late career reassessment for some things.

[1:51] I think he's a kind of a dependable character actor now.

[1:54] I liked him in Twin Peaks, The Return, for example.

[1:56] I thought he was well used, but- I mean, he's great in Thief.

[2:01] But back when he was a leading man, his movies were mostly panned.

[2:07] Yes, Virginia, there was a time when Jim Belushi was a leading man.

[2:12] And in the spirit of our recent 90s flashback, I've picked four movies where Jim Belushi

[2:16] is either top or second build.

[2:19] And we're gonna play a little salesmanship game called, what's it gonna take for me to

[2:23] get you into this Jim Belushi movie today?

[2:26] I love that it's a title that doesn't beat around the bush.

[2:29] It just explains the premise.

[2:32] Now I'm gonna tell you the title and premises of the movies.

[2:35] And if that's not enough to whet your appetite for some Belush, I'm gonna tell you a few

[2:42] more facts.

[2:43] And we're gonna see whether over time I can convince you to be interested.

[2:48] One disclaimer, I've seen none of these movies.

[2:52] Some I've heard of, and the others I barely remembered existing.

[2:57] So let's start off, guys.

[2:59] Mm-hmm.

[3:00] Yep.

[3:01] It's 1995.

[3:02] What if we ruin the game and we just- I was 15 years old.

[3:04] We just, every single time you say the title and we go, yeah, we're in, let's see it.

[3:08] And this episode is five minutes long.

[3:10] I mean, the game is, again, sort of a thin pretense for just general discussion.

[3:16] You got it.

[3:18] The year's 1995, you said?

[3:19] The year's 1995.

[3:20] Okay.

[3:22] So you're perusing the video store and you are presented.

[3:25] I often peruse there.

[3:27] I wasn't old enough to drive myself, so maybe my mommy brought me.

[3:32] Yeah.

[3:33] The DVD, or perhaps VHS still cover, says Separate Lives.

[3:38] The movie's called Separate Lives.

[3:41] And the IMDb synopsis describes it thusly.

[3:44] So wait, hold on.

[3:45] Hold on.

[3:46] You're bringing IMDb into this situation very anachronistically.

[3:49] Oh, man.

[3:50] Did, like, Dean Stockwell show up with his little hand computer?

[3:56] At least, Dan, let's just pretend that we're reading the back of the box.

[3:59] How about that?

[4:00] Okay.

[4:01] All right.

[4:02] You constructed a scenario and then you almost immediately removed the opponent.

[4:04] That is true.

[4:05] Well, here's the thing.

[4:06] I used my imagination.

[4:07] I constructed the scenario basically just to introduce the title and then apparently

[4:12] I was locked into being in that time period.

[4:14] I'm just like, what kind of F for fake mind fuck is this where I don't know from one moment

[4:18] to the next what's true and what's not true?

[4:20] Yeah.

[4:21] Suddenly, I've been, Dan, you've red-pilled me, but you only gave me half the pill and

[4:25] you're like, the other half I'll hide in some cheese for you later to make sure you eat

[4:29] it.

[4:30] That sounds good.

[4:31] Very Stuart Little situation over here.

[4:32] Delicious.

[4:33] Yeah.

[4:34] What if in The Matrix, sorry, what if in The Matrix, Keanu Reeves just hated taking pills?

[4:37] So Morpheus is like, pick which one?

[4:39] And he takes the red pill and then he kind of, he goes, what's over there?

[4:41] And Morpheus looks away and he throws it over his shoulder.

[4:44] And the rest of the movie, Keanu Reeves is just pretending he understands what's going

[4:47] on and that he's seeing the stuff they're describing.

[4:53] Re-edit time.

[4:54] Fan re-edit.

[4:55] Look, yeah, you can pretend that these synopses come from wherever you like.

[5:02] I just want to make it clear, though, that in reality, they come from IMDb to explain

[5:08] why they are the quality of a user submitted synopsis from IMDb.

[5:13] Unlike the professional copy that you would read on the back of a VHS.

[5:17] This is from an internet movie, Data Baloosh.

[5:20] OK, Separate Lives, a psychiatrist asked one of her psychology students, an ex-police detective,

[5:28] to shadow her for a few nights.

[5:30] She fears she is a split personality and may have killed someone.

[5:36] The student has a crush on his cute teacher and says, yes.

[5:40] So, OK, so, man, that sounds great already.

[5:46] Sounds pretty good, right?

[5:48] Sure.

[5:49] I mean, I have no sense of what the tone of the movie is, whether it's an erotic thriller

[5:52] or a wacky comedy.

[5:54] OK, Ali, are you cute, though?

[5:56] That's in the text.

[5:57] I love cute teachers.

[5:58] My wife is a cute teacher, so I'm all about cute teachers.

[6:02] I L Q T.

[6:04] That's what your wristband says.

[6:07] Yeah.

[6:08] That was my that was my that was my name.

[6:11] My rap name was E L Q T. Yeah, I love cute teachers.

[6:17] So OK, well, Elliot, are you more or less enticed to learn that the cute teachers played

[6:23] by Linda Hamilton of the Terminator films and the next actor and Beauty and the Beast

[6:28] and the next actress was the beauty?

[6:30] Dan, don't make jokes.

[6:31] She was the beauty.

[6:32] Yeah.

[6:33] Ron Perlman was the beast.

[6:34] Yeah.

[6:35] Great, great casting.

[6:36] Do you think anyone ever was like, hey, Ron, to me, you were the beauty.

[6:41] Yeah, probably.

[6:42] Yeah.

[6:43] Guillermo del Toro did.

[6:44] That's how he got him into Hellboy.

[6:45] You know, he's a sexy beast.

[6:47] Just like what's his face and Grimsby Grimsby Grimsby.

[6:53] Was he the sexy beast in the title or was the other guy the sexy beast, the actual star

[6:57] of the movie?

[6:58] Ray Winstone.

[6:59] Ray Winstone.

[7:00] Yeah.

[7:01] I don't know.

[7:02] I don't know who the sexy beast was.

[7:03] I don't know if they cover in the text of the film.

[7:05] Yeah.

[7:06] OK.

[7:07] OK.

[7:08] So wait, hold on.

[7:09] I mean, they're both sexy beasts in their own way.

[7:10] And they're one sexier and one's beastier.

[7:12] Hey, I'll let you decide which is which.

[7:13] Yes, Dan.

[7:14] Listeners out there, you're all sexy beasts in your own way.

[7:17] Yeah.

[7:18] Oh, wow.

[7:19] Really nice to think.

[7:20] A little supportive.

[7:21] You know, I'm trying.

[7:22] I'm trying to get into the Josh Gondelman pep talk area.

[7:24] Josh Gondelman routinely sexually harasses his listeners with non-biased over-the-air

[7:29] waves.

[7:30] I didn't harass them.

[7:31] I just said, you know, I don't.

[7:33] It's not even a compliment.

[7:34] It's not welcome.

[7:35] You're all sexy beasts.

[7:36] Take your wieners out, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

[7:37] Extrapolate from there.

[7:38] OK, hold on.

[7:39] I want to hear Stewart Wellington's late-night abridged erotic call-in show.

[7:40] It's after midnight.

[7:41] Hey, everybody.

[7:42] It's after midnight.

[7:43] Her nipples strained against the, you know, come on.

[7:44] We get it.

[7:45] Yada, yada.

[7:46] Can we move it along?

[7:47] She reached out to run her fingers over his yada, yada, yada.

[7:48] You know the drill.

[7:49] She's like, I'm going to do it.

[7:54] you know, come on.

[7:55] We get it.

[7:58] Yada, yada.

[7:59] Can we move it along?

[8:00] She reached out to run her fingers over his yada, yada, yada.

[8:01] You know the drill.

[8:02] You know, come on.

[8:03] By the next morning.

[8:04] Anyway, in the morning.

[8:07] Ten years later.

[8:11] The brats had grown apart.

[8:14] Yeah.

[8:15] OK, the next actors, on top of Linda Hamilton.

[8:18] Metaphorically.

[8:19] In addition to.

[8:22] In addition to Linda Hamilton, the next actors are Vera Miles from Psycho in her final role.

[8:30] Frank D'Angelo was not able to get her.

[8:32] Stumbling all over the place.

[8:35] And a presumably very young Elizabeth Moss.

[8:39] Unless a time machine was involved.

[8:40] It was an ancient Elizabeth Moss.

[8:42] We've already opened up the possibility of time travel with this IMDB thing.

[8:46] That's true.

[8:47] Ellie, how do you feel about these facts?

[8:50] Is your appetite whetted?

[8:51] I mean, to be honest, I'm very curious about seeing young Elizabeth Moss perform.

[8:55] I'm very and I'm curious about alongside old Vera Miles.

[8:59] I mean, I remember Vera Miles well from her from her classic film roles.

[9:02] Yeah.

[9:03] OK.

[9:04] Now, the synopsis wasn't 100 percent clear.

[9:05] Does Jim Belushi play the cute teacher?

[9:08] Yeah.

[9:09] You know what?

[9:10] That's I do want to know which of these characters is the is the ex-cop who's now a student.

[9:14] Is it Vera Miles or is it the fellow who looks like somebody who has a hot dog of the month

[9:20] club membership?

[9:21] Now, now that I've.

[9:22] So how do they deliver the hot dog?

[9:23] Is it frozen?

[9:24] Yeah.

[9:25] Or is it fresh?

[9:26] Yeah.

[9:27] Well, you get like a hot dog of the month.

[9:28] Fresh hot dog.

[9:29] What have you been eating, Ellie?

[9:30] No, but I mean, like, is it cooked when it arrives or do you have to take care of that

[9:31] yourself?

[9:32] You know, does it have sauce on it?

[9:33] You take care of it yourself.

[9:34] You get.

[9:35] No, you get a you get a dozen dogs.

[9:36] You get all the fixings.

[9:37] OK.

[9:38] Boss.

[9:39] So it's like slowly putting somebody on your hot dog.

[9:40] A Bernays?

[9:41] And weirdly enough, you get you get 14 buns, which doesn't sound like a lot.

[9:42] I mean, it's a hot dog.

[9:43] It's a hot dog.

[9:53] It's a bun.

[9:55] It's a bun.

[9:56] It doesn't make any sense.

[9:57] But in case like you fuck up one of the buns, we'll see.

[9:58] I will say this if you're eating hot dogs with children, they will tear the bun apart

[10:00] Why are you making those buns so hard to open up?

[10:02] Everyone will.

[10:03] Kids are having trouble.

[10:04] Why don't you just give them to me?

[10:05] Kids, and that happens to me regularly.

[10:07] One out of two buns.

[10:08] Guys, I'm running for Congress and this is my platform.

[10:10] We've got to regulate bun makers.

[10:12] Those buns are too damn hard.

[10:13] You end up wasting them.

[10:14] That's money the American taxpayer is losing.

[10:15] The buns are too damn hard.

[10:16] I have to do public events where I try to open up hot dog buns and I just rip them to

[10:23] shreds.

[10:24] And I'm like, this is going to end.

[10:25] This is going to end, America.

[10:27] He's attacking me.

[10:28] He's saying the buns are too darn hard.

[10:29] And he's like, no, it's different buns I was talking about.

[10:33] Not to parrot Dan's favorite politician, New York Mayor, Eric Adams, but I think it's the

[10:38] fault of the parents in this case.

[10:39] They should be teaching kids how to use knives to open up those buns.

[10:43] OK, well, back to the game.

[10:46] And then the issue would be I would get caught on a hot mic referring to the slit top kind

[10:50] of Midwestern style buns as abominations.

[10:53] Yeah.

[10:54] And it would really that would end my campaign.

[10:56] You know?

[10:57] Yeah.

[10:58] Yeah.

[10:59] We can all agree that's the case, though, right?

[11:00] The slit should be on the side of the bun.

[11:01] If it's on the top of the bun, that's a lobster roll.

[11:05] Seems like it's kind of easier to use, though, right?

[11:08] Like if it's no, because it's never cut enough.

[11:11] You've got to cram that dog in there.

[11:13] Speaking of cramming things inside of other things, Stuart, this is more of your erotic

[11:17] radio show.

[11:18] Yeah.

[11:19] Yeah.

[11:20] OK.

[11:21] OK.

[11:22] Now, having set your your interest aflame, I'm going to dampen it, perhaps.

[11:26] Maybe you'll like this next thing.

[11:28] I will say the less you talk about Jim Belushi, the more interested I am in this Jim Belushi

[11:32] movie.

[11:33] But tell me what happens.

[11:34] Yeah.

[11:35] Does it make you more or less interested to learn that this is one of only two directorial

[11:38] credits for David Madden, who is the head of programming for AMC Networks, and that

[11:44] this film was written by Steven Pressfield, who wrote Free Jack?

[11:50] OK.

[11:51] Stuart, how do you feel?

[11:52] Because I'm going to say this.

[11:53] I like it.

[11:54] I'm more enticed having heard Free Jack.

[11:57] I'm all about it.

[11:59] Is Buster.

[12:00] I wonder if Buster Poindexter ships up.

[12:01] You have to assume so.

[12:02] You have to assume so.

[12:04] Well, here's the fact that the most notable person in Free Jack, another one, he's not

[12:10] even the most famous musician.

[12:15] Another one.

[12:16] How about learning that this movie, guys, is rated R for scenes of violence and sexuality

[12:22] and for strong language?

[12:23] Oh, thank you for it.

[12:27] And I feel like strong language.

[12:29] Yeah.

[12:30] Well, that means that they let they let the Belush loose, you know, he's not he's not

[12:35] on his leash in this out of the box.

[12:37] Yeah.

[12:38] Now.

[12:39] Now, just I want to you know, if we're talking about 1995, when I would be until December

[12:46] of that year, I was 13 years old.

[12:47] I would be asking the question where all of us would be asking, is it R rated for nudity

[12:52] or for sexual situations?

[12:54] It's hard to say.

[12:55] Scenes of violence and sexuality.

[12:57] I feel like that means no nudity as as it's been clear as we made clear the previous episodes.

[13:02] If you are ever an adolescent looking through the TV guide to find movies with nudity in

[13:07] them, you're not going to want to go to the movie where the listing says nudity because

[13:10] that will be fleeting.

[13:11] You want to go to the movie that's where it's a sexual situations because that means much

[13:14] more nudity or strong sexual content.

[13:17] That's that's that's the caviar of ratings.

[13:22] So if you're if you are a 13 year old in 1995, that's what you want to look at in the TV

[13:26] guide to find out if this and again, and as always, if you see Shannon Tweed in the list,

[13:31] just you're going to have to stay up to watch it.

[13:34] Yeah.

[13:35] I'm going to put your finger on the record button.

[13:37] Okay.

[13:38] Well, here's the final.

[13:39] Yes.

[13:40] So now it's pretty horny so far.

[13:44] I was interested in watching it.

[13:45] Now I'm on the fence, to be honest.

[13:47] Okay.

[13:48] Well, last fact.

[13:49] How about hearing that the top review on IMDb raves that it's, quote, slightly above average.

[13:56] Ooh, baby.

[13:59] And that top review is what, six, six out of ten.

[14:03] I mean, it's just the one that was not attributed to me.

[14:06] Yeah.

[14:07] Was that what they said?

[14:08] There was no other.

[14:09] Yeah, that's it.

[14:10] Well, no, I mean, that's the title.

[14:11] All of these.

[14:12] Oh, I see.

[14:13] Hold the title of the review.

[14:14] It sounds good to me.

[14:15] I mean, I'm like I'm I guess I'd be hoping for like a serious erotic, like 90s erotic

[14:21] thriller.

[14:22] And I have a feeling based on the descriptors that I'm not quite going to get what I want.

[14:28] But I do want to see Linda Hamilton and Jim Belushi see if they have that spark, you know.

[14:33] OK, so that's a yay on Separate Lives.

[14:35] Yeah, well, I do, because I'm going to say when you mentioned the cast, I was like, OK,

[14:40] but the more you told me after that, the less interested I was.

[14:42] You really sold past the close on this one.

[14:45] And I'm going to have to walk.

[14:46] Sorry.

[14:47] That's a knave.

[14:48] OK, sharks.

[14:49] I'm going to have to quote Seabiscuit, America's favorite horse, and say nay.

[14:54] So our next film of again, this is the second out of four, if you want to pace yourselves

[15:01] internally.

[15:02] So you're saying we should spend less time?

[15:04] No, no.

[15:05] I am enjoying dicking around.

[15:07] I'm just giving you the chance to choose the amount of dicking around you're comfortable

[15:12] with.

[15:13] I love it.

[15:14] The next film is Once Upon a Crime from 1992.

[15:18] It's a good pun.

[15:19] Pun title.

[15:20] Yeah.

[15:21] The confusingly worded little red riding hoodlum has to get to the mob boss grandma's house.

[15:28] But but cop, the wolf Jim Belushi is hot on her trail.

[15:32] OK, Dan, just take this episode and drag it over to the garbage, empty recycling.

[15:38] The confusingly worded IMDb synopsis goes like this.

[15:42] Phoebe and a fellow American in Rome find a dog with a five thousand dollar reward.

[15:48] They take a train to the owner in Monte Carlo.

[15:52] She turns up murdered.

[15:53] They run and become suspects just as three other Americans on the train.

[15:57] It's actually less confusing when I read it out loud, but the other Americans on the train

[16:02] become suspects.

[16:03] Or yeah, I think that's like I think there's an implied they run and become suspects just

[16:07] as three other Americans on the train do as well.

[16:10] That's the clause that I was worried.

[16:13] The person writing the review was murdered, died partly through it, just as three other

[16:17] Americans do.

[16:18] What do they do?

[16:20] What do they do?

[16:21] So, OK, that's not I'm not sold yet.

[16:24] You're not sold yet.

[16:25] I'm going to need more.

[16:26] Yeah.

[16:27] Are you even hard for me to figure out who Belushi is in this?

[16:29] The dog?

[16:30] Yeah.

[16:31] It could be.

[16:32] Well, forget the murders on screen.

[16:33] Are you enticed to hear the murderer's row of talent in front of the camera?

[16:38] Aside from Jim, we also have John Candy, Sybil Shepherd, Shawn Young, Richard Lewis, Juan

[16:46] Carlo Giannini and George Hamilton.

[16:50] That is enticing.

[16:51] George Hamilton.

[16:52] Mm hmm.

[16:53] I think you had you may have had me at George Hamilton and Shawn Young.

[16:59] That's an interesting conglomeration of people who would only be in a movie together at that

[17:03] particular moment.

[17:04] Yeah.

[17:05] Yeah.

[17:06] But you can say that a lot.

[17:07] Yeah.

[17:08] There's only one time.

[17:09] Grand Junction.

[17:10] There's only one moment in time when Marissa Tomei and Kirk Douglas could be in a movie

[17:13] together.

[17:14] And that's sure.

[17:15] Sure.

[17:16] Mm hmm.

[17:17] OK, well, how do you feel learning that this is the only theatrical film directed by comedy

[17:22] legend Eugene Levy?

[17:25] Oh, no.

[17:26] OK.

[17:27] OK.

[17:28] Yeah.

[17:29] OK.

[17:30] Well, it's interesting.

[17:31] You're making it more and more interesting.

[17:32] Yeah.

[17:33] What's what was what was the B.O. for this one?

[17:35] What was the box?

[17:36] I think the B.O. failed to be Boppo for this.

[17:39] Oh, that's too bad.

[17:40] But I mean, particularly considering that this is the only thing directed by Eugene

[17:45] Levy, that may not have been his decision.

[17:47] Who knows?

[17:48] Directors do tend to, once they've had a success, go on to direct other films unless occasionally

[17:53] they find it very unpleasant, the experience, or sometimes they die young like Gene Vigo,

[17:58] you know, who made, you know, Zero for Conduct in L'Atlante and then died young.

[18:03] But Eugene Levy, as we know, has not died young.

[18:07] He thankfully is still with us.

[18:08] Yeah.

[18:09] Still making us laugh.

[18:10] Second renaissance.

[18:11] Yeah.

[18:12] He's still continuing atop the Levy dynasty, which is two generations of funny people.

[18:18] OK.

[18:19] Well, are you more or less intrigued to hear that the three credited screenwriters are

[18:24] all Italian and seem to have otherwise almost entirely done Italian language films?

[18:30] A lot of great movies came out of Italy that you've said that like it was like it was a

[18:33] bad thing.

[18:34] No.

[18:35] Just perhaps three people who didn't know the language that well or writing a comedy

[18:41] might bode ill.

[18:42] It worked for a troll, too.

[18:46] All right.

[18:47] Well, what about the fact that it's a remake of the 1960 Italian film and suddenly it's

[18:52] murder, also known by its original title, Crimin, or perhaps Crime-in, I don't know.

[18:59] Crime-in.

[19:00] Crime-in-y.

[19:01] Yeah.

[19:02] Yeah.

[19:03] Does that help or hurt?

[19:04] Or is it neutral?

[19:05] I guess it's neutral.

[19:06] Again, I'm worried that you're selling past the close, so I'm just trying to, again, so

[19:10] I'm just going to focus on that.

[19:12] Focus on that cast.

[19:13] Who was it again?

[19:14] You had George Hamilton, Sean Young, John Candy, of course, the Maloosh.

[19:18] Who else is in there?

[19:19] Sybil Shepard.

[19:20] Oh, yeah.

[19:23] Juan Carlo Giannini.

[19:24] Richard Lewis, to me, is the only dud here.

[19:25] I've never particularly understood his thing, but.

[19:28] Richard Lewis?

[19:29] Yeah.

[19:30] Well, like he had kind of like a hockey player mullet type thing.

[19:33] Maybe not really a hockey player.

[19:34] Yeah, yeah.

[19:35] He loved Zima.

[19:36] He was pretty big.

[19:37] Oh, no, it was Boku.

[19:38] He loved Boku.

[19:39] He was a half of Zima.

[19:40] Zima.

[19:41] The Zima guy.

[19:42] Yeah.

[19:43] Okay, well.

[19:44] Whatever happened to the Zima guy?

[19:45] If you're listening, Zima guy, write in.

[19:47] Try not to use the letter Z in your letter, it's a little challenge for you.

[19:50] Now he's known as Mr. Six, the Six Flags pitchman.

[19:53] Oh, I didn't realize he got old and became the Zan Six Flags pitchman.

[19:57] Yeah, he got older.

[19:58] Who says there are no second acts in American life?

[20:00] I remember seeing an article that was an expose about the Six Flags old man was really a woman

[20:05] in old man makeup, and it was like, yeah, did you really think it was an old man who

[20:09] was busting those moves out?

[20:10] He would break every bone in his body, come on.

[20:13] All right, so the final enticement perhaps, again, the top IMDb review raves, quote, I

[20:21] liked it.

[20:25] In that tone?

[20:26] Okay, okay.

[20:27] I may be editorializing.

[20:28] Because they could have said, I like possible.

[20:30] I like I liked it.

[20:33] Yeah.

[20:34] Uh, you know, I'm actually I think I'm going to pass on this one, a bad comedy.

[20:39] There's nothing worse.

[20:40] I think we've covered on the podcast that there's just, yeah, just as I'm not looking

[20:44] forward to this one.

[20:46] Call me a fool for punishment.

[20:48] I think I'm going to say yes to this one, because I know it's going to be bad.

[20:52] And I'm daring this movie to make me laugh.

[20:54] And if I get one laugh out of this movie, I'll consider it a success.

[20:58] So you know what?

[20:59] Let's see what we can do.

[21:00] Okay, Dan.

[21:01] Cue it up.

[21:02] Let's watch it.

[21:03] Okay.

[21:04] Well, while we do that, I'll just run this.

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[22:08] Elliot, I think the only other business we actually have is to talk about Flop TV for

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[22:16] But now it's time to get down to biznass, bossnass, that is.

[22:22] So, listeners, you've heard me talk about this before.

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[23:01] A good movie.

[23:02] Hollywood, if you could.

[23:03] How recently have you seen it?

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[26:22] Oh, I can't wait to find out what more Belushi classics Dan has uncovered.

[26:27] Well, this is the one movie with a poster, I at least remember, because it features a giant Jim Belushi

[26:36] surfing on top of a much smaller limousine, being driven by a half-sized Charles Grodin.

[26:42] CCB, baby!

[26:44] This is Taking Care of Business from 1990.

[26:47] The synopsis says, an uptight advertising exec has his entire life...

[26:53] I'm guessing that's the Jim Belushi character.

[26:55] No, no, no!

[26:56] Oh, Ellie, you would be wrong.

[26:58] What?

[26:59] No, an uptight advertising...

[27:01] The Heartbreak Kids starring Jim Belushi.

[27:03] Clifford starring Martin Short and Jim Belushi.

[27:06] Oh, God.

[27:07] An uptight advertising exec has his entire life in a Filofax organizer that mistakenly ends up in the hands of a friendly convict who poses as him.

[27:18] That's the Charles Grodin part.

[27:21] Screwball sort of setup, you know?

[27:24] A real case of mistaken identity.

[27:26] As a person who has definitely seen this movie a couple times.

[27:30] Okay, well, then maybe this next thing will have to be directed...

[27:36] Honestly, I don't remember any of it.

[27:39] I have not seen this movie.

[27:41] Well, does it help to learn that the movie features genre favorites,

[27:46] Ken Foray, known for Dawn of the Dead and From Beyond,

[27:49] Kate McFadden, Beverly Crusher from Star Trek The Next Generation,

[27:53] and, of course, Hector Elizondo, his genre being Garry Marshall movies.

[27:59] And one of the co-stars of my favorite movie of all time,

[28:02] The Taking of Hell in 1-2-3, features Hector Elizondo.

[28:04] Oh, I thought you were going to say Pretty Woman.

[28:07] Nope.

[28:08] Okay.

[28:10] I mean, because he's in that.

[28:11] He is in it.

[28:12] Yeah, he's in it.

[28:13] He's in it.

[28:14] He's cool.

[28:15] He's a cool character in that.

[28:16] He is a cool character.

[28:17] He's always a cool character, yeah.

[28:19] Except in Taking of Hell in 1-2-3, in which he's a very hot-headed character.

[28:22] Yeah, that's true.

[28:24] The worst of all.

[28:25] Yeah, Fire and Ice.

[28:26] That's Hector Elizondo.

[28:27] Star of Fire and Ice, the Ralph Bakshi fantasy film, Hector Elizondo.

[28:30] And I think he played backup guitar in Yngwie Malmsteen's.

[28:33] I rotoscoped Thong.

[28:35] So they just rotoscoped the Thong, they didn't rotoscope him?

[28:38] Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[28:39] They didn't want to make it too sexy.

[28:41] Yeah.

[28:42] Well, are you more intrigued about this picture,

[28:45] learning that the screenplay is credited to two people.

[28:50] Jill Mazursky, daughter of famous director Paul Mazursky,

[28:54] and also J.J. Abrams.

[28:57] This is his first writing credit.

[29:00] Wow.

[29:01] Taking care of business.

[29:02] This is where it all started.

[29:03] A J.J. Abrams joint.

[29:05] I mean, as much as I am inspired by that,

[29:07] that J.J. Abrams can go from co-writing this

[29:10] to doing the kinds of things that he does now,

[29:12] which is Star Wars movies, essentially.

[29:16] Yeah, I don't know if the cast and the writers

[29:19] are not enticing me to see more about this movie.

[29:22] And the premise doesn't get you hooked?

[29:24] Doesn't have you slobbering?

[29:25] No, not particularly.

[29:26] They do sound like a classic wacky odd couple mismatch.

[29:29] Well, how about this?

[29:30] How about the Russian?

[29:31] Does he surf on the car in the movie?

[29:33] Is that an actual thing that happens?

[29:34] That's actually a really good question.

[29:35] I don't remember.

[29:36] I think he does, though, yeah.

[29:38] Because I've only ever seen one other roof-surfing movie,

[29:41] and of course it's Teen Wolf,

[29:43] which I used to enjoy as a kid,

[29:46] then I hated as a young adult.

[29:48] And now I'm back around to being like,

[29:51] It won me over, yeah.

[29:52] Yeah.

[29:53] Well, okay.

[29:54] What about the Russian roulette

[29:56] that is the career of the director of this?

[30:00] This picture Arthur Hill or Arthur Hiller. Sorry

[30:04] Who is responsible for at the top of his career the in-laws and Silver Streak?

[30:09] But you're at the low end. There's that one scene in Silver Streak, which you know, it's not so great anymore

[30:13] But yeah, and at the low end carpool and an Alan Smith II film burn Hollywood burn

[30:19] Oh, right. I remember when he you never know what you're gonna get with

[30:24] Arthur Hiller journeyman director

[30:27] Well, I mean I wouldn't there's a there's there's any number of directors who have had highs and lows it's not always no, I know, you know

[30:35] Very few directors have perfect records Stuart Gordon does the the Coen brothers almost I'm just like does the risk entice you

[30:47] I'm just really now that Stuart said that Stuart Gordon has a perfect career, which I would take some issue with

[30:53] Wow and shortly after the his his birthday Elliot, come on, why are you being such an asshole to Stuart Gordon?

[31:00] You're right. I apologize that I'm

[31:03] King of the ants. Oh, well, it's a good movie. Okay

[31:13] The

[31:15] Yeah, I'm gonna pass on this one Dan. I think I'm gonna pay wait. Wait, hold on. Hold on

[31:18] Hiller complete is

[31:20] Well, what you can't pass fully yet. What would it change your opinion to hear that under the parents guide?

[31:28] violent section the entry says just some slapstick fighting

[31:32] but under profanity it says

[31:35] For f-words at least 25 to 35 s words minimum about 12

[31:42] Stop counting after

[31:45] 12 to 20 ass words minimum including asshole

[31:49] Sounds like a fun night in the steward a few sons of bitches

[31:53] This does sound that does sound like more of Stewart's vague erotic show or just like then there was some ass words

[31:59] a few

[32:02] Bitches and about six uses of tits

[32:06] About six uses about six uses not they lost me a little bit by the end that that I was intrigued

[32:14] Again

[32:16] Okay, okay. Okay. Well, hold on. Does this top IMDB user review do anything for you quote? Can you say underrated?

[32:26] Can

[32:28] So

[32:29] Yay or nay on taking care of business

[32:33] I'm gonna I'm gonna give this one a big nay from me. I think I'm not gonna get involved

[32:37] I'm not gonna take this. This is what we take care of by somebody else

[32:40] And I'll be taking care of this the business of watching this movie

[32:46] Just cuz Stuart wants to see if you can remember anything from yeah, or oh

[32:50] Basically, it's an experiment to see how badly I've deadened my brain with drugs and alcohol

[32:57] Time I

[32:58] I'm I'm not a drug user

[33:00] I don't drink much

[33:01] And I know that I watched the movie the toy over and over again as a kid and I remember I think two scenes from

[33:07] the movie yeah, so

[33:10] And the only reason I watched it was because it was on for some reason HBO played it repeatedly

[33:15] Yeah, no, it's true. And I would stumble upon it. Sometimes I'm like, I think this is supposed to be funny Richard Pryor's in it

[33:21] Yeah, why isn't it funny? It's worked a friend and Jackie Gleason, right? Yeah

[33:28] Okay final

[33:31] baloosh movie

[33:33] I

[33:35] Okay final

[33:38] baloosh movie

[33:40] This is from 1992 and all all balooshes must come to an end eventually

[33:46] 1992 an erotic thriller the genre we all associate most with Tim Belushi. Yeah, this is canine. I will be freaking

[33:55] Now the title a title I recognize know nothing else about it traces of red

[34:02] traces of red

[34:06] Synopsis solid erotic thriller title right there. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it feels very it feels classy and foreign

[34:13] Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm

[34:15] Not a lot of red just traces. Yes traces of red. I'm edging you with this red

[34:24] Okay, the synopsis

[34:27] Goes like this Jack sleeps with a waitress who's later murdered did Jack's usual lover do it

[34:35] Palm Beach detectives Jack and Steve

[34:39] Investigate wait, so it's Jack

[34:41] The same Jack as the detective. I think that that's I think that that we're in the description. It's not clear the description

[34:48] I think the is one of these were like, yeah, he slept with the victim and then he asked to

[34:52] Not clear classic Hitchcock wrong wrong man thriller, right? I don't know. I don't know Elliot

[34:59] I know what but you made this movie

[35:01] Would it help you to watch it if you knew that I wrote it, you know, yeah, well, you know who wrote it

[35:07] That's the first enticement here. How was this from again? What year is this from 92? I need to okay

[35:13] How does it strike you to learn that? This is the director Andy Wolfe's only theatrical film

[35:19] But he's done a lot of television including two episodes of Arliss

[35:24] Oh

[35:26] Two episodes

[35:28] Professional behind the camera. They liked him enough to ask him back over at Arliss for that second episode of Arliss

[35:36] That's not as successful as the first episode apparently because then they stopped to

[35:45] You might be perfectly good director, I don't know

[35:48] No, you're you're all you're you're very you're very down. Yeah, we're shit talking now

[35:53] I'm looking him up now. He did also direct a movie later called pizza my heart. So

[36:00] Take another little

[36:03] Okay, well, how about this what about the fact that the writer Jim Piddock has a story by credit for tooth

[36:10] Fairy the movie where the rock is the tooth fairy, but it's better known as an actor

[36:16] You may remember him as the straight man partner to Fred Willard's goofy dog show announcer in best in show

[36:22] Yeah, that's right. Okay

[36:25] faces of red

[36:28] James Belushi, okay, James L. Bull

[36:34] Director of terms of embearment James L. Bullish

[36:39] Perfect joke

[36:43] Okay, I mean I found that intriguing what about this intriguing yeah

[36:53] One of the episode this movie also features an actor whose credited name is

[37:00] Edgar Allen Poe the fourth

[37:04] According to the other unreliable IMDb trivia

[37:08] is a direct descendant of the famous American author and poet and

[37:13] Whose other credits include the film bikini beach race starring Dana Plato?

[37:23] I don't I'm gonna look this up. I don't believe Edgar Allen Poe had children

[37:27] So I don't know if it's possibly to be a direct descendant of Edgar Allen Poe. I don't know

[37:34] Yeah, this game guys is that Dan gets to alter like vacillate between being basically Gil from Simpsons or

[37:43] Jareth from lab

[37:46] He's alternate like begging us and enticing

[37:49] Yeah

[37:51] Yeah, so, all right

[37:53] Well, it has a man in it who purports to be a descendant of Edgar Allen Poe which which is impossible

[37:59] So I have to believe to your role. He has no he hasn't had no children

[38:05] But we can't confirm. He was a bikini beach race

[38:10] Yeah, I mean if I can't trust him about the egg around both

[38:12] I don't know if I just about maybe it was the original Edgar Allen Poe who was in bikini beach race

[38:16] Alright, well other unreliable

[38:19] Trivia to possibly entice you. How about this from IMDb?

[38:24] Quote the ties worn by James Belushi in this film all came from his own personal

[38:39] All right, wait, okay. Well, this is just one two more pieces of enticement or

[38:47] I mean you have

[38:49] personal ties

[38:51] You can't wet my appetite anymore. I'm already slobbering all over everything

[38:54] How do you feel about the fact that the parents guide states that while this is an erotic thriller?

[39:00] the nudity is described as mild with the true two entries being as followed one a

[39:06] Woman's corpse is seen lying in bed topless her bare breasts clearly visible and to don't like that

[39:11] I don't like even even knowing that that living people are playing the corpses

[39:14] I don't like it when the nudity in his movies is a dead body to a man

[39:20] Sorry, everybody. Sorry if that's closed-minded of me, but I'm not I'm not attracted to the day

[39:24] I guess I won't gift you this return of the living dead part 3 DVD. Well, yeah, although am I attracted?

[39:31] Well, here's the thing. I'm not attracted the dead but like that's not what does it matter if they're reanimated?

[39:35] Does Elvira count as dead or she is she not a real vampire? I don't it's a good question

[39:41] I think she might be like a ghoul of some kind. I mean Elsa Lanchester as Bride of Frankenstein. Anyway, is this a road we want to go any further down?

[39:49] Probably not probably not a question. I want to ask I that was that was that was the one

[39:55] I was trying to get by fast in order to get to the real

[39:58] Okay, yeah

[40:00] A man climbs on a woman who is lying on a bed and they kiss.

[40:05] She sucks on an orange slice while he unbuttons her top, and he kisses her and fondles her

[40:10] over her bra.

[40:11] No nudity is visible during this scene.

[40:14] So it has not only no nudity, what the prurient me as an adolescent, I assume, is trying to

[40:19] see, but also an orange slice.

[40:21] It has an orange slice, though.

[40:22] A food I find disgusting.

[40:23] Mm-hmm.

[40:24] Yeah.

[40:25] Call me by your name, right?

[40:26] Yeah.

[40:27] Yeah.

[40:28] It's what's kept me from watching Call Me By Your Name.

[40:30] There's fruit.

[40:31] Yeah.

[40:32] Yeah.

[40:33] Well, lastly, how do you feel hearing this rave from IMDb's top review?

[40:37] Okay.

[40:38] The first five minutes and the last 10 minutes are good.

[40:47] So what's your final verdict on Traces of Red, a gay urin-a?

[40:53] Uh, Stewart?

[40:54] Uh, Traces of Red, uh, yeah, sure, why not?

[40:59] I mean, I want to see what James Belushi's ties look like, so can I just watch those

[41:03] parts?

[41:04] The parts where he's wearing ties?

[41:05] Yeah.

[41:06] There's probably a tie supercut.

[41:07] Maybe that's in the beginning and end.

[41:08] That's why the, uh, that's the review.

[41:09] Yeah, he's a tie-less in the middle of the movie.

[41:14] Subject is tie-less.

[41:15] I repeat, tie-less.

[41:16] Uh, guys, so the real point of this game is so we can determine which movie we're going

[41:21] to watch next for the podcast, right?

[41:23] Is that true?

[41:24] I mean, we are doing Netflix movies right now.

[41:27] That would have been a more clever thing to have done.

[41:29] It would have made way more sense.

[41:30] Yeah.

[41:31] Well, stay tuned next week for Traces of Red.

[41:33] That's the point of a flop house mini, to not make any sense with our choices.

[41:38] Okay.

[41:39] Mm-hmm.

[41:40] Yeah.

[41:41] Mission accomplished.

[41:42] And thank you, thank you for indulging me on a premise that I grew more and more enthusiastic

[41:49] about as I did it.

[41:52] To the point where I was like, Oh, I can't wait to spring this one on the guys.

[41:55] Um, Dan texted us and was like, wait, do you see what I got cooked up for you this time?

[42:00] Yeah.

[42:01] Yeah.

[42:02] I could tell from his typing that his fingers were shaking with anticipation.

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[42:56] Probably iTunes.

[42:57] Uh, you know, tell a friend I just get the word out is the top, uh, preferred way we

[43:03] would like you to leave a review spray painted on a, on a wall somewhere is probably at the

[43:07] bottom, you know, or scratched into a school desk.

[43:09] Maybe that's at the bottom.

[43:10] Unless you include like a QR code that takes them to our, our page.

[43:15] You know how to spray paint a QR code.

[43:18] QR code.

[43:19] Well, uh, good skills.

[43:21] Congratulations.

[43:22] Maybe if you have like a, some sort of one of those stencils, I don't know.

[43:26] That's what they call them.

[43:27] Yeah.

[43:28] Stencils.

[43:29] Yeah.

[43:30] Yeah.

[43:31] What am I Banksy?

[43:32] Carrying stencils around with me?

[43:33] No, thanks.

[43:34] Wow.

[43:35] Elliot's previously unheard of hatred of stencils.

[43:36] Anyway.

[43:37] So we were signing off, but I was saying, uh,

[43:39] Banksy, he's like, why is he defacing property?

[43:42] I mean, to be honest, if Banksy did spray paint my house, I would be like, Banksy, why

[43:47] are you doing this?

[43:48] Leave my house, please.

[43:49] If you like this stuff for some reason, help us spread the word about the show.

[43:53] Uh, thank you to Alex Smith.

[43:55] He's our producer.

[43:57] You can find him all over the web under the name Howell Dottie.

[44:02] If you put into Google, it'll probably tell you how to spell it.

[44:05] Um, but for now, it's an interesting experiment.

[44:08] At the very least, to see if that's what happens.

[44:11] For now, I've been Dan McCoy.

[44:13] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[44:14] I'm Elliot Kaelin.

[44:16] Can't wait to see you at Flop TV and in our next Flophouse podcast episode.

[44:20] Thanks for listening.

[44:21] Bye.

[44:27] Maximum fun.

[44:28] A worker owned network.

[44:30] Of artists owned shows.

[44:31] Supported.

[44:32] Directly.

[44:33] By you.

FH Mini 87 - Jim Possible?

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