FH Mini 99 - The Peach Pit Welcomes Hallie!

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[1:51] Now joining me today, I have all three hosts of the Flophouse podcast, and we're going

[1:55] to be talking about a special episode.

[1:56] We're going to be talking about episode 419 of the Flophouse.

[2:00] That's right, the cat person episode.

[2:02] And with me are the hosts of that podcast, the stars of that podcast, Dan McCoy, Hallie

[2:07] Hagland, Elliot Kalin.

[2:08] How are you guys doing?

[2:09] Pause for applause, please.

[2:10] Oh, and laughter.

[2:11] And laughter, yeah, because you guys are doing little dances or something.

[2:12] And our names are hilarious.

[2:13] And we're pretending we don't know where to sit.

[2:14] That's the thing, my name's so silly.

[2:15] We're picking up the mug and drinking the mug.

[2:16] Yeah, and pause is the perfect word for it because we talked about a movie that had cat

[2:26] in the title.

[2:27] Yeah.

[2:28] Elliot's already on fire.

[2:29] I love this.

[2:30] I can't believe I'm in the room with you guys.

[2:33] So Hallie, this is your first time joining us here on the Peach Pit.

[2:37] Thank you so much.

[2:38] It's a big deal.

[2:39] It feels like a big deal.

[2:41] I actually had no idea what we were going to talk about today, so I'm learning as we

[2:45] go, folks.

[2:47] I think all four of us are learning as we go.

[2:50] That's kind of the joy of being a human being, is that you take in information and you process

[2:54] it and you learn every day.

[2:56] Now, speaking of learning, Hallie, I learned some new things about you.

[2:59] Hey, if you're not learning, you're not living.

[3:01] Now, having listened to the Capra episode, I have a-

[3:03] Dead people learn nothing.

[3:04] Except what's on the other side.

[3:05] Stuart, what are we doing today?

[3:06] Oh, no.

[3:07] It's okay.

[3:08] You have some more bits.

[3:09] Elliot Kalin, lord of bits, is dropping some fresh hot ones on us.

[3:14] But real quick, Hallie, I learned some new things about you, as did all of the listeners.

[3:20] You speak Portuguese.

[3:21] How did that come about?

[3:23] Well, I lived abroad for two years in Argentina on the border of Paraguay, so in the northernmost

[3:33] part of Argentina, also very close to Brazil.

[3:39] So I became very interested in the Portuguese language.

[3:43] A lot of the people in the town that I lived in were like, Brazil's the best country in

[3:48] the world.

[3:49] Brazilians are the most beautiful people in the world.

[3:53] Everyone who lives in Brazil is the happiest in the world.

[3:56] I think it's a little more complicated than that, but it all led me to, I want to learn

[4:01] a little bit more about these people.

[4:02] I want to talk to them.

[4:03] So I studied Portuguese in college, and then I spent some time abroad there.

[4:10] It was a very specific interest in the southern cone that led me to this acquiring of knowledge.

[4:20] That is fascinating.

[4:21] And speaking of the southern hemisphere and travel, I also just got back, as I was not

[4:27] featured on that episode of the podcast, because I just got back from traveling abroad.

[4:30] I was in Australia.

[4:31] Yeah, I was actually kind of amazed that you knew what happened on the Cat People episode,

[4:37] considering you're not here, and you've been in Australia for several weeks, and we haven't

[4:41] dropped that episode yet.

[4:42] It's hard to even know the title better than people who were there for the episode.

[4:45] Cat Person, yeah, sorry.

[4:46] Well, just to fill you guys in, I listened to an early cut of the episode, and I watched

[4:51] the movie Cat Person on my flight back from Australia.

[4:55] I used up my precious, should have been sleeping time, watching Cat Person.

[5:00] I mean, but Cat Person couldn't have taken the entire flight.

[5:03] It's a two-hour movie, and that must be, what, an 11-hour flight?

[5:06] It's 15 hours from Sydney to L.A., and then another six hours back to New York City.

[5:12] Jeez Louise.

[5:13] Wow.

[5:14] Yay, yay, yay.

[5:15] Yay, yay, yay.

[5:16] So how many times-

[5:17] You must have watched that a lot of times.

[5:18] You just put Cat Person on repeat.

[5:19] That's the only entertainment.

[5:21] The in-flight movies were down.

[5:23] I threw my books in the garbage, because I was like, Cat Person is going to see me through

[5:28] it.

[5:29] I assume when you arrived in Australia, they found the books in your luggage and they said,

[5:31] can't bring these, mate, and they just threw them in the trash, because books are not allowed

[5:34] in Australia.

[5:36] Yeah.

[5:37] No books at all.

[5:38] Yep.

[5:39] Only dollary-doos, didgeridoos, and, I don't know, koala bears.

[5:44] I guess if you'd called them bookery-doos, they would have let you keep them, yeah.

[5:46] If I had only thought of that, if I declared them as bookery-doos.

[5:49] You spoke the language.

[5:50] They're like, do you have anything to declare-a-dee-do?

[5:53] And you're like, I have these books, only bookery-doos allowed, and then again, threw

[5:56] them in the garbage, yeah.

[5:57] Threw them in the pouch pocket of a kangaroo, so that he could take it to the ocean and

[6:01] dump them in.

[6:02] Do you guys know the garbage goes the other way in Australia?

[6:05] It does, yeah, it goes back into your mouth.

[6:11] The fun thing is that I did not get enough sleep, I'm still super jet-lagged.

[6:17] The day I arrived, I ended up sleeping 13 hours, which just did not reset my sleep schedule,

[6:22] and then I had a double session with my therapist, so I'm a mess, guys.

[6:26] I'm already emotional.

[6:27] I'm a Pisces, you guys know this, so I'm a total, I'm a wreck right now.

[6:31] So let's see how this episode goes.

[6:34] So Hallie- I've never heard of a double session with

[6:37] a therapist.

[6:38] Yeah, I want to dig into this, but I don't know.

[6:41] You can tell how emotional I am.

[6:43] You get twice as much closure, right?

[6:45] Well it's like, it feels like the first session was just me explaining how my trip went, and

[6:50] then the second half of the session, which was another full session, was just every emotional

[6:58] scab, old and new, was picked fresh, and left me kind of in a state where between that

[7:05] and my odd sleep schedule, left me feeling sad and high in a way that I was not prepared

[7:11] for.

[7:12] Aw, Stuart.

[7:13] It's okay.

[7:14] Wow.

[7:15] I'm starting to hear it.

[7:16] It does kind of make sense, though, because I do feel like every therapy session ends

[7:18] just as you're getting to the deep stuff, you know?

[7:21] Yeah.

[7:22] It's like, okay, well, time to go.

[7:23] I'm like, but put me back together again, please.

[7:26] Yeah.

[7:27] While I was in Australia, I did a couple of cold plunge therapy experiences, and so it

[7:33] was kind of like that.

[7:34] Like, after the first session, I was like, okay, get me out of this.

[7:37] This hurts.

[7:38] My muscles are cramping, and I can't breathe.

[7:41] Unfortunately, I had a whole other session to go, and here we are.

[7:44] It's still better than a cold play therapy plunge, which is no fun.

[7:49] Nobody enjoys that.

[7:50] Nobody likes that.

[7:51] Not even the members of Coldplay.

[7:52] Yeah.

[7:53] Hallie?

[7:54] Yeah.

[7:55] You've talked about living in other places.

[7:57] You live in Los Angeles now, but you used to live over here on the East Coast.

[8:01] What do you miss most about living on the East Coast?

[8:04] Dan.

[8:05] Oh, how sweet.

[8:09] I was making eyes at Hallie, hoping that that was it.

[8:13] If you ask LA, LA just says, pizza, and then he walks away.

[8:18] That's what I say, yep.

[8:19] And my Ninja Turtle friends.

[8:20] Well, the potential to have pizza with a Ninja Turtle, because they do have pizza here, but

[8:24] you're never going to be able to eat it with a Ninja Turtle unless they've come out for

[8:26] a meeting, possibly.

[8:27] Yeah.

[8:28] Yeah.

[8:29] You're at Universal Studios.

[8:30] Okay.

[8:31] I miss a lot.

[8:32] I miss a lot.

[8:33] I feel like I have come to romanticize New York a lot more than I actually liked it while

[8:39] I was there.

[8:40] Uh-huh.

[8:41] Yeah.

[8:42] I feel like people are so smart there.

[8:43] They dress so cool.

[8:44] You never have to drive anywhere.

[8:47] You just hop on the subway.

[8:49] I got so many more steps.

[8:51] I was so much hotter.

[8:52] You know.

[8:53] I had no children.

[8:54] That's the New York.

[8:55] Yeah.

[8:56] Yeah.

[8:57] Sure.

[8:58] Yeah.

[8:59] Yeah.

[9:00] Very New York specific.

[9:01] Yeah.

[9:02] Yeah.

[9:03] Yeah.

[9:04] I mean, Elliot seems to have thrown New York in the garbage by comparison.

[9:05] I mean, to be honest, that's a New York thing to do.

[9:06] There's garbage cans everywhere.

[9:07] Yeah.

[9:08] But I don't think it's...

[9:09] It's not that I've thrown New York in the garbage.

[9:10] It's that I have tried to romanticize it, and I've had trouble romanticizing it, because

[9:15] as much as I love New York, and it's the greatest city in the world, and it's very special to

[9:18] me, I do remember a lot of the frustrations.

[9:21] Like when Hallie's like, you don't have to drive, because you can ride the subway.

[9:23] I have so many memories of sitting in a stopped subway car in the middle of a tunnel, not

[9:28] knowing if I would die there, if it would ever move again, whereas if I'm in a car,

[9:33] I can always potentially just get out of my car and abandon it on the road if the traffic

[9:36] is bad enough.

[9:37] Elliot.

[9:38] Elliot.

[9:39] Yeah.

[9:40] If you were stuck in that subway car, you could just eat your copy of The Power Broker

[9:42] and live for, I don't know, like a couple of days.

[9:44] It would last me a little while.

[9:46] That's true.

[9:47] But then I'd be...

[9:48] It would be like destroying a child.

[9:50] It would be such a hard sacrifice to make.

[9:53] But then it lives on inside you, the book.

[9:56] But I was just in New Jersey for a few days recently.

[10:00] and got to drive through New York for a family event that was not a pleasant family event.

[10:05] But I did enjoy, I enjoyed seeing those, those gray skies and gray buildings and gray pavement

[10:10] all over again.

[10:11] You know, it was, I did feel the power and intensity of New York.

[10:14] Yeah.

[10:15] I missed that.

[10:16] Yeah.

[10:17] Yeah.

[10:18] The intensity.

[10:19] And I, and I miss, uh, when I was in New York and I used to work for a television show and

[10:21] I had a regular paycheck every week.

[10:24] Yeah.

[10:25] That was pretty great.

[10:26] Yeah.

[10:27] I live in New York and I miss that as well.

[10:28] So it's not a New York specific thing.

[10:31] And I'm, I'm kind of the same way, you know, like it's only been a couple of days, but

[10:34] already I'm missing Australia.

[10:36] I'm missing all the fun accents.

[10:38] I'm missing all the, the little critters you can see running around.

[10:42] I might even, I might even get one of those, uh, mullet haircuts that all those kids over

[10:46] there have that have the sides extra shaved, which I guess allows their sunglasses to stay

[10:50] on better.

[10:51] I don't know.

[10:52] Maybe grow a little mustache.

[10:53] I mean, I think it's cool for Australians that mullets and mustaches hit again.

[10:58] I mean, Stuart, I understand like the desire to ruin something beautiful, but don't do

[11:02] either of those things.

[11:03] And Stuart, I think you should take solace in the fact that you're not hearing Australian

[11:08] accents.

[11:09] We are hearing the greatest accent in the world.

[11:12] That's a heavy New York accent.

[11:13] Hey, what'd you doing?

[11:14] Get out of my face.

[11:15] What's the matter with you?

[11:16] Joey.

[11:17] Joey.

[11:18] Joey.

[11:19] Tell Richie what he told me.

[11:20] Joey.

[11:21] Louis, listen to this.

[11:22] Tony.

[11:23] Tony.

[11:24] Do you know what Joey said to Richie?

[11:25] Guys.

[11:26] What are these mating calls?

[11:27] Pizza.

[11:28] Derek Jeter.

[11:29] Jane Jacobs.

[11:30] New York.

[11:31] Yeah.

[11:32] The next question is for Hallie Hagland again.

[11:33] Architect Stanford White.

[11:34] Yeah.

[11:35] Oh, Stanny White.

[11:36] I love him.

[11:37] Hey, hey, Stanny White.

[11:38] Hey, tell me that thing you said about the other guy.

[11:39] Anyways.

[11:40] Next question is for Hallie again.

[11:41] What's the matter with you?

[11:42] Tell Richie what he told me.

[11:43] Joey.

[11:44] Joey.

[11:45] Joey.

[11:46] Joey.

[11:47] Joey.

[11:48] Joey.

[11:49] Joey.

[11:50] Joey.

[11:51] Next question is for Hallie again.

[11:52] How do you take your martinis?

[11:56] I take them.

[11:57] Gin or vodka?

[11:58] Gin.

[11:59] Always.

[12:00] Okay.

[12:01] Good.

[12:02] Sapphire.

[12:03] Gin.

[12:04] Because you love colonialism.

[12:05] Sometimes Plymouth.

[12:06] Oh, okay.

[12:07] Also colonialism.

[12:08] Naval rum.

[12:09] Or naval gin.

[12:10] Yeah.

[12:11] I like it.

[12:12] Naval rum is rum that you squeeze out of a person's belly button, right?

[12:13] Yep.

[12:14] I saw that in a movie once.

[12:15] I like them very dry.

[12:16] By David Cronenberg.

[12:17] Okay.

[12:18] I was-

[12:19] Like how dry?

[12:20] Do you just like to show the glass the bottle or do you actually pour some in?

[12:21] Yeah.

[12:22] No liquid.

[12:23] Do you do a wash?

[12:24] No.

[12:25] I don't do a wash.

[12:26] Okay.

[12:27] But for a long time, historically, I've always gone olives.

[12:28] I don't really like it dirty.

[12:29] If it's going to be dirty, just like the tiniest bit dirty.

[12:30] Yeah.

[12:31] But I'm not a big, super dirty-

[12:32] You sound like Elliot right now.

[12:33] Not a super dirty gal.

[12:34] Just like a little dirty.

[12:35] Yeah.

[12:36] I'm not a super dirty gal.

[12:43] not super dirty gal.

[12:47] Just like a little dirty.

[12:48] Yeah, exactly.

[12:49] Just that I know I'm doing something wrong, but not so bad that I feel bad about it.

[12:52] No, I want a f**ked martini to be f**ked up.

[12:54] Call the cops.

[12:55] I want to spend the next day wandering with my head and my hands going, what did I drink

[13:00] last night?

[13:01] How could I have done that?

[13:02] Stewart tips a shot into some brine.

[13:06] Great.

[13:07] That sounds great, Dan.

[13:10] I had a cigarette martini at a fancy cocktail bar here in the city, and I think they smoked

[13:16] the olives or some s**t, because it was kind of smoky, but not a lot.

[13:20] And they were so high.

[13:21] It was great.

[13:22] Was it good?

[13:23] Did you like it?

[13:24] It was delicious.

[13:25] It was great.

[13:26] It was probably like $28 or something, but it was good.

[13:29] Well, I've started taking them with a twist recently.

[13:33] I've grown tired of so many olives.

[13:36] I feel like it gets too salty by the end, even when it's no olive juice, just the olives.

[13:41] So I started doing with a twist.

[13:43] Thanks for asking.

[13:44] Yeah.

[13:45] No, thanks for answering.

[13:46] That's what The Peach Pit's all about, is finding out more about these floppers.

[13:50] Speaking about finding out floppers, we learned a little bit about a little dream Elliot had

[13:55] of a Seinfeld spec script, and the world is on fire wanting more.

[14:00] So now that I have three bonafide TV writers with me, can you guys answer, is there any

[14:08] non-off-the-air television show that you would like to write a script for?

[14:16] Any show that's not on the air now?

[14:18] You kind of confused me.

[14:19] Okay, okay.

[14:20] Yeah.

[14:21] Not on the air now.

[14:22] It's over.

[14:23] Yes.

[14:24] Part of The Peach Pit is trying to figure out exactly what I'm trying to say.

[14:27] It's like reading a Gene Wolfe novel, The Peach Pit.

[14:30] Yeah.

[14:31] I keep looking up words on my phone in the dictionary.

[14:34] And we figure it out.

[14:35] Of course, we go to The Peach Pit website and plug in all the clues that you've gathered

[14:39] from the episode.

[14:40] You gotta wear the special glasses.

[14:43] And then you win a prize.

[14:44] That prize being the knowledge that there is no prize.

[14:47] You know, it was like, I wrote a, you know, The Simpsons is still on the air, but I wrote

[14:53] a Simpsons spec about 10 years later than anyone would care about a Simpsons spec, and

[14:57] that was like 15 years ago now.

[14:59] But like, I...

[15:00] Give us a taste.

[15:01] Well, let's pretend.

[15:02] What was it about?

[15:03] What happened in it?

[15:04] Was that the one where Bart killed Homer by accident, and he had to hide the body?

[15:09] D'oh!

[15:10] Homer would have been dead, so he wouldn't have said d'oh, but, you know.

[15:14] I think it was...

[15:16] I didn't do it.

[15:17] I think that's what he'd say, yeah.

[15:19] I think it was called Jesus Christ Superstation, and it was about how Homer took over, like,

[15:28] the local public airwaves that, like, Ned had done, had like religious programming on

[15:35] there, but Homer took it over and had his version of religious programming that was

[15:39] much more popular.

[15:40] That's a good plot.

[15:41] Yeah.

[15:42] That's a good premise.

[15:43] Simpsons.

[15:44] That's great.

[15:45] Producers, snap this up or steal it.

[15:47] Sure.

[15:48] Elliot Halley, have you guys got any...

[15:51] You can't do Night Court.

[15:52] Night Court's already back and not as good as it used to be.

[15:56] Yeah.

[15:57] Well, I mean, I would...

[15:58] I mean, that...

[15:59] Steinfeld, I would love to...

[16:00] I think I might write that spec strip, if I can find the time just for the exercise

[16:04] of it.

[16:05] Yeah.

[16:06] Love to write a news radio.

[16:07] I love that show.

[16:08] Oh, yeah.

[16:09] Oh, yeah.

[16:10] It's the Night Court of my generation.

[16:11] News radio.

[16:12] Yeah.

[16:13] I would do Golden Girls.

[16:14] I'd love to do Golden Girls.

[16:15] Oh, yeah.

[16:16] I'd do Herman's Head.

[16:17] Now, that's a fun one.

[16:18] That'd be fun.

[16:19] That would be fun.

[16:20] Yeah.

[16:21] Or Babes.

[16:22] Yeah.

[16:23] Halley's always been interested in the show Babes.

[16:24] Yeah.

[16:25] I have a lot...

[16:26] Wait, what's...

[16:27] What's the show Babes?

[16:28] You don't remember Babes?

[16:29] No.

[16:30] You don't remember the show that ran for one season on Fox in the early 90s?

[16:33] No.

[16:34] It's about a bunch of pigs in Australia.

[16:35] It was about...

[16:36] No.

[16:37] No.

[16:38] It was about three beautiful, big sisters who...

[16:44] Three Rubenesque sisters.

[16:45] Yes.

[16:46] I'm listening.

[16:47] I remember the earliest promos were them chasing Bart Simpson.

[16:51] It was implied they were going to eat him, right?

[16:53] No.

[16:54] But at the very end of the credits, they say they're all lying in bed.

[16:57] Is he a Butterfinger inside?

[16:58] Wait.

[16:59] What happened?

[17:00] I'm sorry.

[17:01] Go on.

[17:02] They're all lying on a fold-out couch, and it goes, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-babes.

[17:05] And then the couch breaks, and they all go, ah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

[17:10] But I liked it.

[17:12] I liked it.

[17:13] Wipeout.

[17:14] Da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na.

[17:15] Okay.

[17:16] So, yeah.

[17:17] I mean, I haven't seen any episodes of Babes, but what kind of a script would you write

[17:21] for Babes?

[17:22] Oh, geez.

[17:23] You're really putting me on the spot here.

[17:27] Yeah.

[17:28] That's what we do.

[17:29] We ask the hard-hitting questions.

[17:30] This is a pitch meeting.

[17:31] You know, one of them is going through menopause, and...

[17:34] Yeah.

[17:35] That sounds perfect for the Fox show.

[17:38] And they don't know which one.

[17:39] They have to figure it out.

[17:40] Yeah.

[17:41] They just...

[17:42] Yeah.

[17:43] Dot, dot, dot, shenanigans.

[17:44] That's the long line.

[17:46] That's the title of the episode.

[17:47] Menopause?

[17:48] Question mark?

[17:49] Dot, dot, dot, shenanigans.

[17:50] You used to be able to sell a sitcom with a pitch like that.

[17:51] Yeah.

[17:52] Not anymore.

[17:53] Because TV is closed for business.

[17:54] Let me tell you a little bit more about MaxFundDrive.

[17:55] This is dropping just before MaxFundDrive technically starts.

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[21:45] Now let's get into Cat Person, the movie, but also let's talk a little bit about Cat

[21:49] Person, the book, because unlike the three of you, I did not read the short story.

[21:54] Now granted, I had plenty of time to read it while I was on my flight.

[21:58] Instead, I read two romance novels and the first Black Company novel.

[22:05] Those were all great.

[22:06] So I had plenty of time to read this, but I did not.

[22:09] So you guys are going to have to answer a couple of questions for me.

[22:12] First of all, is Isabella Rossellini in the short story?

[22:16] That's a big no, unfortunately.

[22:17] Like either her or her character, you guys can guess that.

[22:21] Neither one.

[22:22] I mean, I was going to say, if you take the first two thirds of the movie and then remove

[22:27] all the bullshit from it, that's basically the short story, but we'll answer more questions.

[22:31] Okay.

[22:32] So I have a question about Isabella Rossellini now.

[22:35] So her character, if you'll recall, was the college professor who is for like entomology

[22:42] or sociology or anthropology or something.

[22:45] She's spooky stuff.

[22:46] She's professor of spooky stuff.

[22:47] She seems to be like, yeah, she's a biologist specializing in the macabre.

[22:52] And she has an obsession with this ant colony she's been cultivating.

[22:56] Now do you think at any point they were considering also making her Margo, the lead character's

[23:01] aunt, that she's also obsessed with ants?

[23:08] Now for what thematic reason would this be happening?

[23:11] I'm guessing they never considered that.

[23:13] You know, so they wouldn't have to, they have to pay per word in the script, but homonyms

[23:18] don't count.

[23:19] Oh, that's a good deal.

[23:20] Thank you.

[23:21] That's what I was looking for.

[23:22] The word supplier is like, these are two different words.

[23:26] They sound the same as the word court.

[23:29] Okay.

[23:30] So that was a satisfying answer to my question.

[23:35] Now you were saying all the bullshit's been taken out.

[23:38] Now in the short story, is there a dog character?

[23:41] No.

[23:42] No dog.

[23:43] What about the cat?

[23:44] Do the cats ever show up in the short story?

[23:47] The point is you don't see the cats.

[23:49] Yeah.

[23:50] I think she does like wonder, right, in the short story about like, but in the short story,

[23:55] I think she's also like, where the fuck are the cats at some point?

[23:57] But there's no scene where she opens up a door and two cats run out.

[24:00] No.

[24:01] Everything, everything at the end where she has decided to attach, invade his home to

[24:06] stalk, to surveil him and everything they fight.

[24:10] That's all original to the film.

[24:11] Okay.

[24:12] So.

[24:13] Oh yeah.

[24:14] So wait, does that mean, so that's, that makes the, the, the final act, uh, like that's

[24:19] a little bit of like fan fiction element there where they're like, everybody, when they read

[24:24] the original story was dying to know about these cats.

[24:27] What happened next?

[24:28] Yeah.

[24:29] Let's give them the cats.

[24:30] And what if we could get a dog in there?

[24:31] I mean, the implication that he has been following her to set up this first meeting, I believe

[24:36] is not, I think that's all new to the movie too.

[24:39] Short story.

[24:40] It's a, everything is above board in terms of they meet at a movie theater.

[24:43] He is not a kind of, he's not, he's not, he's not a haunted figure who with his black hound

[24:49] stalks the streets looking for women to meet cute with.

[24:53] Yup.

[24:54] Uh, okay.

[24:56] And uh, Harrison Ford is Harrison Ford mentioned in the short story at all.

[25:01] No, that's all original to the movie too, right?

[25:04] Yeah.

[25:05] There's a sequence where Margo imagines that, uh, Robert played by Nicholas Braun, uh, is

[25:12] seeing a therapist.

[25:13] Do you think at any point in the process in her imagination, the therapist would be played

[25:17] by Harrison Ford?

[25:19] Um, like as his shrinking character specifically, I mean, that would be great.

[25:24] He's already, he's already got the costume.

[25:27] I have to mention that when that character of Robert saw shrinking, he was disappointed

[25:31] in Harrison Ford for playing a character who's not super cool.

[25:34] Oh, he's still a little cool cause he doesn't care about anybody or anything.

[25:37] I assume the script went out to Harrison and he's like, this won't, this won't pay for

[25:43] my weed.

[25:44] Like should I do this?

[25:46] Calista?

[25:47] Should I do this movie?

[25:48] That's his, his longtime romantic partner, Calista Flockhart.

[25:50] Should I do this?

[25:51] Should I anyway?

[25:52] No, I'm not going to.

[25:53] And they went back to bed probably.

[25:54] Yeah.

[25:55] Yeah.

[25:56] Uh, okay.

[25:57] Well that's a satisfactory answer.

[25:58] Now every time you say that it sounds less and less like it's a satisfactory answer.

[26:03] I believe I've told my Harrison Ford story before on this podcast, right?

[26:06] Uh, I don't remember.

[26:07] I would love to hear anything.

[26:09] When, uh, when I worked at Barnes and Noble many years ago as a, as a, as a young lad,

[26:13] this was in the year.

[26:14] This was all the way back in the year 2002, 22 years ago.

[26:20] Ooh.

[26:21] When I worked at the Barnes and Noble Chelsea in Manhattan, don't look for it.

[26:24] It's not there anymore.

[26:25] It closed down.

[26:26] I don't know what that space is these days.

[26:27] Uh, but when one day Harrison Ford came in, uh, to, I guess, check out the place to see

[26:33] if it was cool enough or chill enough for him and Calista Flockhart to do their holiday

[26:37] shopping and if they weren't gonna get mobbed by all their fans, it passed muster or passed

[26:42] mustard if it was a squeeze tube.

[26:44] And he and Calista Flockhart came in and I worked at the information desk at the time.

[26:48] It was my job to go get books from different parts of the store.

[26:51] And I felt bad because I seemed, I by coincidence always had to go through whatever section

[26:56] they were in at that moment to get to where I was going.

[26:59] It was not me being a gawker stalker at all.

[27:02] And I overheard the following conversation when they were in the poetry section, which

[27:06] would have been appropriate if you were being a gawker stalker to the movie we're talking

[27:10] about cat person.

[27:11] That's very true.

[27:12] Yeah.

[27:13] But I wasn't.

[27:14] And this is the conversation I heard while they were in the poetry section of the Barnes

[27:15] Noble.

[27:16] I heard Calista Flockhart say, you don't read poetry.

[27:19] And Harrison Ford said, sure.

[27:20] Yeah, sure.

[27:21] I do.

[27:22] I read poetry.

[27:23] So I think every, not even Han Solo has the same conversation with his girlfriend that

[27:26] all guys have with their girlfriends.

[27:32] Now there is a Indiana Jones, whatever character you want me to or Henry, which character you

[27:37] want me to refer to.

[27:38] I was dubious about the essentialism of this conversation that you claim is universal.

[27:44] That was the part that I was making a face about.

[27:46] Every single man has had it with every single female romantic partner since the beginning

[27:49] of time.

[27:50] I've had it with Eve, Akhenaten with Nefertiti, all of them.

[27:53] As mentioned on the podcast, fictional characters.

[27:56] I think Audrey is less interested in poetry than I am.

[28:00] Oh, well, then I guess I know who wears the pants in that family, both of you.

[28:05] Oh, sure.

[28:06] I mean, for poetry, it would be like panting a lot of time.

[28:09] I mean, yeah, because otherwise.

[28:12] Who does the pants in those families?

[28:13] Like panting.

[28:14] Panting like a dog.

[28:15] Panting?

[28:16] Yeah.

[28:17] Is that in a dog sound?

[28:18] Probably the cats.

[28:19] Yeah, that actually makes sense.

[28:20] Yeah.

[28:21] How ironic that the cats are making the dog sounds.

[28:22] Yeah.

[28:23] So we're talking about Harrison Ford here.

[28:24] Now, Nicholas Braun's character uses Harrison Ford in many of his movies as a role model

[28:25] for what he how he should behave romantically.

[28:26] Can you guys answer what Harrison Ford character would be a good role model for a man to follow?

[28:27] Yeah.

[28:28] Yeah.

[28:29] Yeah.

[28:30] Yeah.

[28:31] Yeah.

[28:32] Yeah.

[28:33] Yeah.

[28:34] Yeah.

[28:35] Yeah.

[28:36] Yeah.

[28:37] Yeah.

[28:38] Yeah.

[28:39] Yeah.

[28:40] Yeah.

[28:41] Yeah.

[28:42] Yeah.

[28:43] Yeah.

[28:44] Yeah.

[28:45] Yeah.

[28:46] There's so many different roles for a man to follow.

[28:49] Hmm.

[28:50] Mm.

[28:51] Uh.

[28:52] Not necessarily just romantically.

[28:53] We can talk about in life, in general.

[28:54] I mean, it seems like in the Fugitive, uh, before his wife passes away, they had a good

[28:59] relationship.

[29:00] He's so devoted to her and declaring his name but to her.

[29:04] And he's persistent.

[29:05] He's very persistent.

[29:06] He doesn't give up.

[29:07] He, y'know, tracks down the killer.

[29:08] And in the middle of all of that, he still has the time to save a young boy at the hospital

[29:13] who's been diagnosed incorrectly.

[29:15] So, uh.

[29:16] And he's also immune to jumping from off of really high heights into water.

[29:20] That doesn't hurt him.

[29:21] Yeah.

[29:22] That's his superpower.

[29:23] That's his one superpower that nobody knew about until he was put in that situation.

[29:26] Yeah.

[29:27] Okay.

[29:28] That's a pretty good one.

[29:29] Uh.

[29:30] You guys got anything?

[29:31] You got any?

[29:32] Annie's a doctor.

[29:33] Well, I, but regarding Henry, like, once he re-learns how to be a human, once he forgets

[29:34] that he was, like, a terrible person and becomes a good person, I wouldn't kick that guy out

[29:40] of my life.

[29:41] That's true.

[29:42] I mean, you gotta put in a lot of effort up top.

[29:46] Yeah.

[29:47] You know, sort of like rebuilding Henry.

[29:48] Yeah.

[29:49] But, yeah.

[29:50] Rebuilding Henry was the prequel, right?

[29:51] Yeah.

[29:52] Yeah.

[29:53] Regarding rebuilding.

[29:54] Yeah.

[29:55] I guess Rick Deckard, he really is able to process the fact that he's a rogue.

[30:00] but pretty well, you know, and that's a big,

[30:03] that's a big blow to the psyche.

[30:04] It's hard to get over that, and yet he's able to do it.

[30:06] And I, you know, I admire him for that, I guess.

[30:08] Also, he wears a trench coat real well.

[30:11] He looks super cool.

[30:12] Super cool, I mean, he's a tool of oppression.

[30:14] That's not great.

[30:15] That's not cool.

[30:16] Well, what about like working girl?

[30:18] Well, no, he changes clothes in front of his staff.

[30:20] That's not cool.

[30:21] Let's see, what about, does he ever play a character

[30:25] who is nice to people?

[30:28] I mean, Henry, after the accident.

[30:30] What about when he saved, this is in a movie,

[30:31] but remember, didn't he like save someone

[30:34] when he was a pilot?

[30:36] Yeah, he did do that.

[30:36] Yeah, in real life, that's true.

[30:38] Okay, so Harrison.

[30:39] The real Harrison.

[30:40] Yeah, I mean, the real guy seems like,

[30:42] he's sort of grumpy, but like, you know,

[30:44] he's also kind of like a funny stone guy.

[30:47] I bet he's pretty friendly if you're not bothering him.

[30:49] I have, so wait, quick story.

[30:52] Didn't happen to me.

[30:52] It happened to my very good friend,

[30:54] but my friend was working a temp job

[30:58] on the Upper West Side.

[30:59] So he was, you know, he didn't usually get off

[31:02] at the subway stop, but then he was regularly

[31:04] getting off it for a week.

[31:06] And every day for the first three days,

[31:09] he was working this temp job.

[31:10] He passed Harrison Ford when he was getting out

[31:13] of the subway.

[31:14] And on the fourth day, Harrison Ford looked at him

[31:17] and said, birds of a feather, and just kept walking.

[31:22] He seems like a pretty cool guy, right?

[31:24] That's pretty cool, I like that.

[31:25] Perfect sort of like semi-enigmatic, just as he passed.

[31:29] It also could double as a like,

[31:31] I know you're following me, please stop.

[31:33] You know, which I don't know if he meant it that way.

[31:35] That's not the vibe I got.

[31:36] Shout out to Rob Cudhill, if he's listening somewhere.

[31:38] That's his story.

[31:39] That is a good story.

[31:40] I think that is cool.

[31:41] And he was president once,

[31:44] but we don't know about his policies.

[31:45] It's possible that even-

[31:47] It's possible that even though he's very good

[31:48] at getting guys off his plane,

[31:50] that maybe he also does some bad stuff.

[31:52] Policy-wise.

[31:53] It's mostly throwing terrorists off planes.

[31:56] He's like, get off my plane.

[31:57] And the audience goes, yeah.

[31:58] And he goes, and we've got to outlaw gay marriage

[32:00] at the national level.

[32:01] And they're like, oh, what?

[32:03] No.

[32:04] That's not okay.

[32:06] Okay.

[32:06] We need to cut entitlement spending and welfare spending

[32:08] for our military buildup.

[32:10] No, no, President Ford, don't do that.

[32:13] So-

[32:14] Second President Ford.

[32:15] Yeah, I was just thinking that.

[32:17] Yeah, I mean, in the movie, it's not President Ford.

[32:20] He isn't?

[32:22] Is he President Richard Kimball?

[32:24] Yeah.

[32:25] His story of being unjustly accused of his wife's murder

[32:29] really captured the nation's attention.

[32:30] I think he could run.

[32:32] I think he has a platform.

[32:33] He can run really well.

[32:34] Have you seen The Fugitive?

[32:35] That whole movie is him running.

[32:36] Running through the streets of Chicago.

[32:39] Yeah.

[32:40] Those are not easy streets to run through.

[32:41] You hit a river at one point.

[32:43] One of the highlights-

[32:44] Actually, I ran the Chicago Marathon,

[32:46] and that's one of the easiest marathons to run.

[32:49] Oh, really?

[32:49] Very flat.

[32:51] That makes a lot of sense.

[32:52] But what if you're being chased by Timely Jones?

[32:54] I guess that makes it easier to run, to be honest.

[32:55] It's way easier.

[32:56] Motivation.

[32:58] Yeah, really motivating.

[32:59] Also, doesn't he have one leg?

[33:02] Isn't he the one-

[33:03] Timely Jones?

[33:04] Wait, in Lonesome Dove,

[33:06] was he the one who got his leg amputated, or was it-

[33:09] Elliot would be the one to know this.

[33:11] I don't remember.

[33:11] It's been so long since I saw Lonesome Dove.

[33:13] Wait, let me text Larry McMurtry.

[33:15] I've got some bad news for you, Stewart.

[33:18] He's not responding.

[33:21] It truly was-

[33:22] Wait, wait, I got three dots.

[33:23] The last picture shown.

[33:24] You have only three dots.

[33:27] Okay, so one of the highlights

[33:28] of the Catperson episode for me

[33:30] was the moment when all three of you

[33:32] managed to call out movies

[33:34] that happened to be released in 1994.

[33:36] I was very impressed by that.

[33:38] So on the subject of 1994,

[33:41] I wanted to know if you could guess

[33:43] what the top domestic box office movie of 1994 was,

[33:48] since you're all experts at 1994.

[33:53] Was that the year of The Lion King?

[33:56] Just, was The Lion King-

[33:57] Dan got number one, okay?

[33:59] You guys have a chance to get anything in the top five.

[34:03] Number one is The Lion King.

[34:05] Forrest Gump, right?

[34:06] Number two, baby!

[34:07] Wow.

[34:09] It's a-

[34:10] Can you believe-

[34:11] The pressure's really on.

[34:12] There was a time when Forrest Gump was the number two,

[34:13] a movie like Forrest Gump

[34:14] was the number two movie in the country.

[34:16] Yeah.

[34:17] That would be, if you, I mean,

[34:18] regardless of the quality or not quality of Forrest Gump,

[34:21] and there are things I like about it,

[34:21] things I don't like about it,

[34:22] a movie about a guy who just happens

[34:25] to live through events in the 60s and 70s,

[34:27] and people are like, we love this movie.

[34:29] And now that would be,

[34:30] I guess it would be like a prestige TV series

[34:32] that goes on for 10 seasons or something like that.

[34:34] Yeah, everybody would love it.

[34:36] You got anything, Hal?

[34:37] And the movies.

[34:38] So was Armageddon later?

[34:40] Was Armageddon like- Later.

[34:41] Yeah.

[34:43] And Independence Day was later, right?

[34:45] Was that 95?

[34:46] Yep.

[34:49] Listen, a couple of Griffin-Newmans over here.

[34:51] Okay, I mean, we did pretty good.

[34:52] You guys did pretty good.

[34:53] You got the top two.

[34:54] The rest of the top five is True Lies,

[34:58] The Santa Clause,

[35:00] and The Flintstones.

[35:02] Wow.

[35:03] Oh, I wouldn't have gotten any of those.

[35:04] I didn't realize The Flintstones was number five.

[35:06] No, is it that?

[35:06] The live action one?

[35:08] The live action.

[35:09] Johnny Depp.

[35:10] And our boy, Harry Ford brings up number six,

[35:14] Clear and Present Danger.

[35:16] Danger.

[35:18] Okay, then Speed and Speed.

[35:19] Clear and Present, stayin' all together with me, folks.

[35:21] Danger.

[35:23] Dan's favorite movie of 1994, Speed, came in at number seven.

[35:28] Not bad.

[35:30] Not bad.

[35:31] Thank you, I guess.

[35:32] Okay, so that was Top Box Office.

[35:35] Can you guys name some of the,

[35:38] it was also a big year for the Oscars.

[35:41] Have you guys ever heard of the Oscars?

[35:42] We're kind of in award season here at the Flophouse.

[35:45] So, can you guess some of the,

[35:50] let's say, best actor winner?

[35:53] Now, wait, so.

[35:54] Tom Hanks, wasn't it?

[35:55] He won.

[35:56] Yeah, I was gonna ask whether this is for

[35:59] films that came out then in 94,

[36:00] or you're talking about the previous year, 93.

[36:02] No, these are from the previous year.

[36:03] I tricked you.

[36:05] But Tom Hanks did win.

[36:06] What did Tom Hanks win for?

[36:08] That was for Philadelphia, right?

[36:10] Philadelphia.

[36:11] That was when Tom Hanks won back-to-back

[36:13] Best Actor Oscars, right?

[36:15] For Philadelphia and Forrest Gump.

[36:17] But was it, did Schindler's List win

[36:18] for Best Picture that year?

[36:20] No, Schindler's List, yeah, won for actual 1994, yep.

[36:27] The Best Picture winner for the year previous,

[36:30] which is what we're talking about, is,

[36:36] nope, it was Schindler's List.

[36:37] You're right, I was wrong.

[36:38] Yes, because it came out, because 93 was the year

[36:40] that Steven Spielberg had both Jurassic Park

[36:42] and Schindler's List, which is amazing.

[36:44] Yeah.

[36:45] That's amazing two movies have come out in the same year,

[36:46] because they're so similar.

[36:47] They're exactly the same.

[36:48] Times have changed when you could just write a list

[36:50] and win an Oscar.

[36:52] Must be nice.

[36:54] Now we gotta write whole scripts.

[36:56] Get them shot.

[36:59] Dialogue in them, yeah.

[37:01] Guys, and based on what we've been talking about,

[37:04] I would argue the majority of this Gap Person podcast,

[37:07] can you guess who was the winner

[37:09] of Actor in a Supporting Role?

[37:13] Or, it was in 1994, for movies from 1993.

[37:16] Denzel Washington?

[37:18] No.

[37:19] What have we been talking about most of this podcast?

[37:22] Harrison Ford.

[37:24] Babes, Tommy Lee Jones.

[37:25] Tommy Lee Jones.

[37:26] For The Fugitive, oh, okay, that's right.

[37:30] We got there, we got there eventually.

[37:32] We did, okay.

[37:32] It was TLJ, Tommy Lee Jones.

[37:35] I did guess Babes before we got there.

[37:37] Yeah.

[37:44] Back for another game.

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[43:05] So that was a little blast from the past

[43:07] with us focusing on 1994, the year that is on everybody's lips.

[43:11] Hollywood's greatest year.

[43:13] Sure, yeah.

[43:14] 1994.

[43:16] I was 12.

[43:17] Still a preteen.

[43:20] I don't like that.

[43:23] What's that imply?

[43:25] Let's just say the cat person might be interested.

[43:30] Back to the story.

[43:31] I will say this in defense of the cat person,

[43:34] that he is interested in a 20 year old woman.

[43:37] She is of legal age and there's no there's no implication that he's a pedophile.

[43:41] Not legal drinking age.

[43:43] That's fair.

[43:43] Good point.

[43:44] Good point.

[43:44] A 20 year old woman that he believes is slightly older.

[43:48] At least.

[43:49] Yes, right.

[43:50] He certainly likes that she exudes youth and the end.

[43:55] But not.

[43:55] Yeah.

[43:56] Not.

[43:56] But not childhood.

[43:58] Exudes youth.

[43:59] A 12 year old.

[44:05] No, I don't like it.

[44:05] I like the question even less.

[44:10] There's a point of contention,

[44:11] specifically one of Elliot's contentions with this movie.

[44:14] Cat person that it featured too many needle drops.

[44:17] And what I would like to be like your take on is.

[44:20] What's the difference between a needle drop and just a song?

[44:23] That's what that was my question.

[44:25] I asked before we started recording.

[44:27] I think I still don't understand.

[44:30] I don't.

[44:31] Well, I said first I was going to say.

[44:34] I don't think that there necessarily is one.

[44:37] I think that they're used often just interchangeably.

[44:41] But maybe I would say if I was pressed that like a song is like a member.

[44:50] You know, sometimes there's just like a song sort of on the soundtrack that

[44:54] like the film doesn't make a big deal out of.

[44:56] It's just like whether diegetic or not diegetic.

[44:58] It's just like there.

[45:00] Whereas a needle job maybe underlines a moment more like to.

[45:07] To bring up one that, you know, I know bothered some people didn't bother me particularly,

[45:14] but I get what it is.

[45:16] It don't bother me.

[45:17] The song from the end of Nashville.

[45:19] Yes, no, like in like Captain Marvel when just a girl plays during the big fight at

[45:26] the end like that's like very much like a needle drop, I would say.

[45:30] Yeah, I would say people have problems with Captain Marvel.

[45:33] Yeah, I'm sure all for rational good reasons that have no underpinnings of anything else.

[45:39] Yeah, yeah, I think needle drop not being a necessarily a technical or scientific term

[45:44] is kind of messy.

[45:45] But I think for me, it's when a pop song is used to press punctuation either to like be

[45:51] like something's happening or to like less dancing kind of underline and make really

[45:56] obvious a thing often.

[45:57] I mean, the needle droppiest movie is Suicide Squad, the first one where often the songs

[46:02] are not even related to what's going on on screen.

[46:04] It's literally just new shot, new pop song, new shot, new pop song.

[46:08] And so there are a couple scenes in cat person were just felt like the music was like as

[46:12] soon as it cut to a new scene, a new pop song started.

[46:15] And then as soon as it seems over, that song stopped and another one started.

[46:19] There was a it felt very artificial to me.

[46:20] So, for instance, the use of give me more by Britney Spears would be a needle drop.

[46:26] But what about the scene that follows shortly after in the what the the firearm store, the

[46:32] self-defense store where in the background you hear the song, Damn, I wish I was your

[46:38] lover playing.

[46:40] Is that a needle drop?

[46:42] I don't remember the scene well enough, to be honest.

[46:46] So I think the answer means means no.

[46:48] The answer means no.

[46:49] Is there means no.

[46:50] Is it is this is it playing in the background in the store or is it playing?

[46:54] Yeah, it's playing in the background in the store.

[46:56] If it's in the store.

[46:57] So this is I'm also going to make a distinction.

[46:59] Needle drop.

[47:00] It is diegetic music.

[47:01] If it's music that is organic to the scene coming from a source in the scene.

[47:04] I don't think of it as a needle drop.

[47:06] Like when he when he puts on his make out mix or his sex mix, you know, when she goes

[47:11] to his house, that doesn't feel like a needle drop to me.

[47:12] But when it is non diegetic, if it's not within the scene, it feels like a needle drop to

[47:16] me.

[47:17] Sex mix is the worst kind of checks.

[47:20] So you think it's just so messy.

[47:22] I mean, I don't want to prove.

[47:25] I've never been a fan of checks because it's like, here's two things you like and three

[47:28] things you don't find the stuff you like in it.

[47:30] But if there's some sex hidden in there, maybe it's worth the hunt.

[47:35] Interesting.

[47:36] I love checks mix just for the record.

[47:38] What is it about checks mix that you like?

[47:39] So salty.

[47:41] You don't like that much salt in your drink.

[47:43] I know because I'm drinking.

[47:45] But when I'm eating.

[47:47] Yeah, that's complex.

[47:49] Just layers.

[47:50] Yeah, keeps like an onion, like a salty onion.

[47:54] So real quick, since we're talking about music and movies, favorite soundtracks or

[48:00] soundtrack CDs that you've owned or favorite score.

[48:05] That's the thing.

[48:05] I have.

[48:06] I have owned more score CDs than really soundtrack CDs.

[48:11] But like, yeah, this is me.

[48:15] We're talking to it.

[48:15] But like, I've owned a number of Ennio Morricone's scores, and I really like the one for

[48:19] The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

[48:20] I love.

[48:20] I'm a big fan of Jay Goldsmith's score for The Planet of the Apes, you know, and I had

[48:26] those, but I never had a fan of the score for Chopping Mall.

[48:30] We've all talked about this.

[48:31] We all love scores.

[48:32] I'm tired of hearing you talk about the score for Chopping Mall.

[48:35] I was a big fan of the score for Untamed Heart, the Marissa Tomei movie where Christian Bale

[48:40] gets a baboon heart.

[48:41] Yeah, I know the plot line of Untamed Heart.

[48:46] Okay, is this Christian Bale?

[48:49] No, sorry.

[48:49] Christian Slater.

[48:50] Okay, that's what I thought.

[48:50] I was like, Christian Bale plays the heart.

[48:53] That sounds like too high class a Christian for this movie.

[48:56] No.

[48:58] Um, I liked, the first one that came to mind is the High Fidelity soundtrack.

[49:02] I mean, I'm also like, you know, a child of the 90s.

[49:06] So I had, you know, like Pulp Fiction and Trainspotting and stuff like that.

[49:10] The Crow, Judgment Night.

[49:11] Sure.

[49:13] Tower Records.

[49:15] Now that was a good one.

[49:17] Now that I'm a middle-aged man who, like, acquired a turntable a few years back.

[49:21] Speed?

[49:22] Uh, American Werewolf in Paris.

[49:26] I'm gonna, as a middle-aged man, I'm gonna bring up a movie that is all but forgotten.

[49:31] But there's a movie called FM that is just like a double album of, like,

[49:37] album-oriented rock from the 70s that I'm like,

[49:40] I wouldn't want these individual records, but as a soundtrack, I love it.

[49:45] Speaking of soundtracks, speaking of Forrest Gump.

[49:48] Yeah.

[49:49] Talk about an epic soundtrack.

[49:50] Yeah, that was a big thing.

[49:50] There was a double album soundtrack that was in Rotational Audit at my house growing up.

[49:54] The popular.

[49:55] All the classic rock that my parents loved to tell me was better than the

[50:00] music that came before or after it exactly it was the american graffiti or big chill

[50:07] soundtrack of its day yeah and elliot hears this and storms off in a huff wearing his

[50:12] jenko jeans with his chain wallet dragging on the floor as he goes off to listen to his slipknot

[50:19] yeah i think the audience understands pretty clearly that i'm a huge new metal and slipknot

[50:23] fan yeah i love it yeah you're a freak on a leash and we love that about you so speaking

[50:29] of freaks on leashes my favorite thing that i will say i do like slipknot for giving us

[50:34] the inspiration for the conan o'brien bit the slipknots when it's just i forgot who it was

[50:39] john glazer and the two other guys they just there's peanut shells all over the ground and

[50:42] they're just slipping on them and they sing a song about their how they're the slipknots

[50:47] yeah so there's a scene in cat person where margo uh has a little like a little bit of a date uh in

[50:53] her uh college classroom where where robert brings her some fruity pebbles a specific type

[51:01] of fruity pebbles and uh other snacks from 7-eleven which by the way when i was in australia

[51:06] i heard a commercial a radio commercial for 7-eleven which pitched it as like sick of having

[51:12] leftovers for lunch you can just go to 7-eleven and i'm like is this pitch to like 12 year olds

[51:18] eat what jerky you can get food at 7-eleven you can get hot dogs you can get hot dogs and

[51:25] pretzel rolls on them but that's chicken wings one of those sandwiches that's on that like

[51:31] heater tray that you're like i don't know what is this i guess i'm showing i'm showing my food

[51:35] look if you've never had to if you've never traveled on christmas and had to figure out

[51:38] what you're gonna eat for dinner from a convenience store then you're living a better life i mean i've

[51:43] yeah i'm just saying i'm not gonna be drawn in by a commercial yeah advertising is gonna be like

[51:48] you know what i am gonna have lunch at 7-eleven like if you're having lunch at 7-eleven that is

[51:52] a choice made out of necessity yeah because it's only leftovers otherwise i heard in japan they

[51:58] have fresh sushi at 7-elevens and it's and and they have to change it out every hour oh wow

[52:04] listeners listeners chime in let us know uh listeners to the peach pit so if somebody was

[52:09] trying to impress you much if somebody was trying to uh set up a green flag in the old

[52:15] dayton world what breakfast cereal would they bring to you as a treat that shows that they

[52:23] understand you or just get what you're craving uh what breakfast cereal i mean i don't somebody

[52:29] bring you know that any breakfast cereal would make me feel understood since it's not particularly

[52:34] thing i i mean there's one breakfast cereal that i like it is the most boring one it is uh it's

[52:40] called morning oat crunch and it is it's basically replacement for quaker oat squares which which got

[52:46] too sweet for me and my wife does get it for me frequently she knows i like to have a breakfast

[52:50] and snack on it so she does understand me and i married the right lady sorry ladies

[52:54] um i like uh oh go on hallie uh i would say golden grams or checks uh wheat checks

[53:03] i think wheat checks or kicks kid tested mother approved kicks always scratch up the

[53:10] roof of my mouth too much i have a sensitive upper mouth you know i actually love grape

[53:15] nuts you can't eat grape nuts solo but love grape nuts they're so good when they get good and soggy

[53:20] uh-huh and it's cut like it's kind of gross but i think that's because i enjoy it i enjoy a little

[53:26] like controlled discomfort maybe if my perspective lover got me captain crunch which i haven't had

[53:32] a long time but then fed it to me so my hands don't get sticky uh yeah they will get extra

[53:38] points from me okay somebody start drawing dan feeding out i like corn checks because they kind

[53:48] of taste like you know like a tortilla chip that i like uh but without the salt uh what about

[53:56] crispics crispics are very good yeah you get the corn you got the rice i also if i want a little

[54:02] treat maybe some honey bunches of oats uh i like that's i call it the best bunches of oats in this

[54:09] economy you just get one out one out no honey sorry oh now there's a moment uh there's a moment

[54:19] in the movie where they're talking about the movies they've seen the most margo and robert

[54:24] robert of course has watched empire strikes back a zillion times margo's favorite movie most watched

[54:29] movie is spirited away and we all kind of agree that spirited away feels like a movie that he

[54:35] would have seen yeah yeah my guess is if he should have started telling her facts about

[54:41] miyazaki as if she didn't know anything about it you know yeah now explain miyazaki miyazaki

[54:46] splain and he has her he has her kind of explaining he has her kind of pitched as a

[54:52] somebody who loves foreign films maybe cerebral films so what or cerebro films if the x-men are

[54:59] in them yep that's true yep uh so what movie should she have said is her most watched movie

[55:08] to kind of fit that bill a little better and also be a movie that he hasn't seen believably

[55:16] or oh so we're rewriting what her favorite movie is yeah we're rewriting cat person

[55:22] let me be like an agnes vardo movie that would be that would work if she was like i really love i

[55:28] probably i probably have seen one sings the other doesn't more times than the other and he'd be like

[55:32] i don't know what that is oh she's like well you know it's a it's a foreign movie oh you like

[55:36] subtitled stuff oh forget about i just like stuff with han solo shooting people and kissing babes

[55:42] let me show you my script she really loves certified copy that's uh what was that movie

[55:48] like fucking ulna do you guys remember i don't remember fucking mall is that what it was called

[55:56] it's like a swedish movie i think yeah i think that that's the one that you're thinking of it's

[56:00] also it's got another american title that is less exciting but yeah that one or my life is a dog

[56:09] my life is a dog yeah i uh or i could see her really liking amelie which is again was a big

[56:17] release but i could see that that would show me love was the american title what was the swedish

[56:22] title i mean i don't know how to pronounce it but it's a try it try it best try no it's amal

[56:29] with little like uh you know fucking alma right i probably if you saw it i'm yeah something like

[56:37] that yeah or you know what or like worst person in the world yes that's oh i love yacom trier um

[56:43] yeah but i can see that being one that she relates to you know i actually i watched reprise on my

[56:48] flight back and cried a bunch what a good movie i gotta watch that guy like if i don't know what

[56:54] that director has with torturing anders denielson live but like every fucking movie this dude's in

[57:00] you're like oh i feel bad for him something that's happening to this guy uh i was gonna say maybe

[57:04] something like in the mood for love uh oh yeah another movie i watched on my flight um which is

[57:10] or chum king express i could see that yeah necrophilia or stew you mentioned chopping mall

[57:17] earlier yeah maybe she gives us a chopping ball uh i mean it was snubbed for best score when it

[57:25] came out she of course prefers the original title though kill bots yeah yeah which shows that she's

[57:29] a real she's like i love foreign movies i'm really big on like giallo like have you seen the the bird

[57:34] with the crystal plumage and he'd be like what what that kind of stuff yeah okay now you like

[57:40] jello no i do but i meant the movies the italian movies giallo movies i don't understand italian

[57:47] movies so like uh il postino no not that not that one okay so that's the first that's the first one

[57:52] that springs to his mind is yeah what italian movie is gonna come to his mind other than that

[57:57] you mean like life is beautiful like that no not that one uh-huh yep nope keep going um okay so

[58:04] uh as as i mentioned you mean like big night nope it's not italian movie they are italian americans

[58:09] mafia mama

[58:18] so as i mentioned i was not on the episode cat person but you've somehow managed to be

[58:24] on i've somehow managed to and in fact i will continue this because now i will do my final

[58:30] judgment oh cool wow i'm gonna say so so george lucas take this and insert it into the episode

[58:37] i guess right right with a fucking speeder flying behind me and a couple of robots uh smoking

[58:43] dead yeah i kind of love this i'm curious a robot that flies over and goes uh-oh and then flies

[58:49] so watching this movie uh i on a plane was a somewhat uncomfortable experience which i think

[58:55] is kind of what they're trying to go for i was kind of glad that we weren't doing it just the

[59:00] three of us dudes together talking about it um and i didn't listening to uh the episode uh i i

[59:09] feel like i liked it more and it was uh i got a little more depth from the three of you uh i will

[59:17] say that it feels like the one of the primary themes of the movie at least in the first you

[59:23] know two-thirds which is what the majority of the short story is this like the fear of somebody uh

[59:28] the fear of a woman um in a dating situation when uh you know the communication is blurry

[59:35] and there's just like a general kind of threat element and then it feels weird that the movie

[59:41] then in the final act makes her concerns the like her concerns and fears are what lead her to

[59:49] getting trapped in a house on fire like it feels like it undercuts the message of like women trust

[59:54] your intuition because in this case they're like women your intuition might get you almost killed

[59:59] i think

[1:00:00] I think if it was a better movie, it would be more ambiguous about what it's trying to do.

[1:00:05] And it would be getting at, she has a reason to be afraid, but he also has a reason to be upset.

[1:00:11] And it drives them both to extremes that otherwise they wouldn't go to.

[1:00:16] But I feel like the movie, using that Margaret Atwood quote at the beginning, it so stacks the movie.

[1:00:20] It so telegraphs how you're supposed to feel about it in a way that I think hurts it.

[1:00:24] And there's a lot of symbolism sprinkled throughout very liberally talking about those themes.

[1:00:32] But I mean I guess my final judgment is going to fit with the three of you, which is it doesn't quite fit our categories.

[1:00:39] I would say somewhere between Bad Bad and a movie I kind of liked.

[1:00:43] But with that in mind, you mentioned that it doesn't fit the categories.

[1:00:47] What would be better categories for the Floppix podcast?

[1:00:52] Well, I mean look, the categories, let's be honest, are a simple way to communicate with our audience.

[1:01:02] Like Siskel and Ebert both, neither one of them likes the idea of reducing.

[1:01:09] They didn't even have thumbs.

[1:01:11] Yeah, exactly. They didn't even have them.

[1:01:13] They used their penises, but they kind of arranged their hand around it so it looked like it was a thumb.

[1:01:18] They didn't like reducing everything to a thumbs up or a thumbs down, but they knew that for branding, for the good of the show, it was an important thing to do.

[1:01:26] We're not even going that far because we will abandon our categories at the first sign of danger.

[1:01:33] But I don't know. I don't know that there are categories out there in the world that will encompass all art that we will encounter.

[1:01:43] What about Good, Bad or OK?

[1:01:46] I mean that would encompass all of it.

[1:01:48] I think I'm going to propose categories that are specific for this kind of movie, which is successful at what it's trying to do, unsuccessful at what it's trying to do, or what it's trying to do is bad.

[1:01:59] So like some movies are successful at what they're trying to do and what they're trying to do is bad.

[1:02:04] Like that Sound of …

[1:02:06] Sound of Freedom?

[1:02:09] Was that it where the guy – where they were like, this guy is a hero.

[1:02:12] We're going to ignore that he might also be a child trafficker and stuff like that.

[1:02:15] That's apparently successful at what it's trying to do, but it's trying to do is bad.

[1:02:20] There's a movie like Cat Person, which I think is unsuccessful at what it's trying to do even though I think what it's trying to do is quality.

[1:02:27] And then there's movies that they're successful at what they're trying to do and it's a quality thing or a not quality thing, but it's still fun.

[1:02:35] Like Jurassic Park is successful at what it's trying to do, and Pulp Fiction is successful at what it's trying to do.

[1:02:44] Those are two different kinds of movies, and On Golden Pond is successful at what it's trying to do, and that's a different kind of movie.

[1:02:50] So I think those are categories I don't think we should necessarily use, but I'm going to pitch them as substitutes for when we're dealing with a movie that doesn't fall into good, bad or good, bad categories.

[1:03:01] I would agree that those are good ways to evaluate movies in general, but for our podcast, which has slowly drifted closer to actual film critique over the years, but in a lot of ways is searching for that high of the dumb, bad movie that is fun to watch.

[1:03:23] We need to have that category in there that indicates this is not successful at what it's trying to do necessarily, but it is a delight to experience.

[1:03:31] Well, it's like I was re-listening to the – or listening for the first time. I didn't hear it before – to the Vanilla Ice episode that we released, the Coolest Ice episode from our live shows.

[1:03:40] And the whole time I'm like, yeah, this movie is not successful at what it's trying to do, but it's successful at doing a very different thing that I enjoyed greatly, and that thing is being ridiculous.

[1:03:51] So I guess you know what it means. You know what it is? We should take a page from Siskel and Liebert and just argue with each other more.

[1:03:59] I think that's what people are really here for, right?

[1:04:01] Yeah, that's what they love.

[1:04:03] We should – instead of being friends behind the scenes, we should not like each other that much behind the scenes, but instead have a show where we argue with each other for years.

[1:04:10] Is that what we should do?

[1:04:12] That would make me very upset. That would make me sad.

[1:04:15] Dan, I've got a lot of friends. I'm looking to downsize right now.

[1:04:17] That would make it a lot easier for me.

[1:04:20] The slight amount of arguing that we already do already is more than my heart can take.

[1:04:26] Okay, then let's argue less and let's agree more.

[1:04:28] So Dan, tell me how great my categories are again.

[1:04:30] Terrific. Amazing.

[1:04:32] Thanks.

[1:04:33] Four stars.

[1:04:34] Thumbs up or thumbs down?

[1:04:36] Thumbs up.

[1:04:37] Oh, wow.

[1:04:38] To put a final bow on Cat Person, we have a little mini segment here called What Stewart Would Have Said.

[1:04:44] Okay.

[1:04:45] What Stewart would have said had he been on the podcast.

[1:04:47] Sure.

[1:04:48] Okay, so there's a bit where you're talking about Into the Woods.

[1:04:50] Truly the victors get to rewrite history, yeah.

[1:04:53] You're talking about Into the Woods and you say Sloths live in the woods.

[1:04:56] I would have said, hey, you guys, but in Sloth's voice.

[1:04:59] Yeah.

[1:05:00] There's a moment where you – Elliot mentions that –

[1:05:02] Why don't you say it in his voice right now then?

[1:05:04] I don't know. I feel like I'd rather people just imagine it.

[1:05:07] I think in the moment it's easier for Stewart to make that mistake than preplanned.

[1:05:12] So there's a moment where Elliot mentions seeing Hope Davis on the subway many times.

[1:05:18] And I feel like that's pretty thematically appropriate in a movie where a man kept stalking a woman and trying to set up a meet cute with her.

[1:05:24] I thought that was really cool of Elliot to say.

[1:05:26] I would ask more about these Gump toilets.

[1:05:29] What's going on there?

[1:05:30] What's a – like Gump toilets?

[1:05:32] It's a brand of Port-a-Potty.

[1:05:34] Okay.

[1:05:35] It's an LA brand of Port-a-Potty.

[1:05:37] I think it's national but maybe it's just regional.

[1:05:39] You see them all over the place at construction sites here.

[1:05:41] Do they ever put them outside of a Bubba Gump shrimp company so people can see the full –

[1:05:47] They're like, oh, so Andy and Bubba must be brothers.

[1:05:50] Oh, honey.

[1:05:51] Oh, interesting.

[1:05:52] It looks like a poop in here.

[1:05:54] It's just a conjunction of Gumps or Gump Junction.

[1:05:56] It happens once every thousand years.

[1:05:58] I would also mention that I also loved the sequence where she is in the bathroom and the wallpaper has all those paintings of women's faces and she kisses them.

[1:06:09] It actually looks like – it looks like other women have kissed the same wallpaper in different places.

[1:06:16] I thought that was really cool.

[1:06:18] Speaking of kisses, Elliot mentioned that he was very good at kissing and his wife might have joked that maybe that's why he was a member of the band Kiss or something.

[1:06:29] I don't remember the exact situation.

[1:06:30] I was like, is that how the band Kiss got their name?

[1:06:33] Do you guys think they got their name because they were good at kissing?

[1:06:36] They certainly thought they were good at kissing.

[1:06:38] They said they were made for loving you.

[1:06:40] But the corollary to that is that you were made for loving them.

[1:06:44] So perhaps they're only good at kissing each other and not outside people who are not created for loving each other.

[1:06:50] I'm guessing that there's too much –

[1:06:52] That's one for the rabbis to answer I suppose.

[1:06:54] I'm guessing there's too much tongue just based on square footage of tongue in Kiss.

[1:07:00] Weirdly enough, not enough face paint.

[1:07:03] And then finally, there's a moment where Elliot says the heart is the largest erogenous zone.

[1:07:08] I would say of course, what about my we-ness?

[1:07:11] So that wraps up Cat Person.

[1:07:14] I'm glad you didn't let that opportunity pass by.

[1:07:17] We did.

[1:07:19] Now before we wrap things up here at the Peach Pit, we have Hallie Hagelin, star of the show on here.

[1:07:26] I think it's important that we do a little special Hallie segment and we look at all the movies that Hallie –

[1:07:32] all the episodes Hallie has been in.

[1:07:34] What I would like you to tell –

[1:07:36] I'm going to go down the list, Hallie, and I want you to tell me which one is the best movie,

[1:07:41] which is the worst movie according to your recollection because some of these I have no memory of.

[1:07:48] And then which one you think might be the best episode.

[1:07:50] If somebody was like, I want to hear more Hallie Hagelin.

[1:07:53] And tell me which one you have no memory of because I'm betting –

[1:07:57] That's probably most of them.

[1:07:59] Okay. So I'm going to start at the beginning.

[1:08:02] Zookeeper, Rock of Ages, Upside Down, Battle of the Year, Temptation, Confessions of a Marriage Counselor,

[1:08:18] The Quiet Ones, That Awkward Moment, Left Behind, Ouija, The Choice, The Lazarus Effect, Fifty Shades Darker,

[1:08:32] The Dark Tower, The Wicker Man, Last Christmas, Me, You, Madness, The Turning, Orphan, First Kill,

[1:08:45] Your Place or Mine, Mafia Mama, and now Cat Person.

[1:08:52] Okay. So I would say the worst movies were Upside Down and The Lazarus Effect.

[1:08:59] Okay.

[1:09:00] I would say the best movies were That Awkward Moment, Last Christmas, and maybe just – I don't – yeah, those two.

[1:09:20] I think – I really don't remember that well, but I would say in my head – I just feel in my soul that that Zookeeper episode was a good Hallie episode.

[1:09:31] Okay.

[1:09:32] That or Ouija, I would say.

[1:09:34] Well, yeah. If you didn't call it out, I wanted to say Audrey is a big fan of Hallie episodes and Ouija is one that she cites as a good episode.

[1:09:43] Okay.

[1:09:44] I was really pulling for Mafia Mama to be listed in one of the best movies.

[1:09:48] No, I did. No, no. I was going to say that one. Yes, I would say that.

[1:09:52] I was going to say Mafia Mama – I was going to prod you with that at the end, but I was like I don't want to mansplain to Hallie about what movies she likes.

[1:09:58] No, no. I actually did forget that.

[1:10:00] Yes, Mafia Mama would be among my favorite movies.

[1:10:03] Yeah.

[1:10:04] There's definitely a couple of-

[1:10:05] And then all the rest I don't remember.

[1:10:06] Yeah.

[1:10:07] There's a couple of stinkers in here.

[1:10:09] There's a couple of stinkers.

[1:10:10] Although, Miu Madness is an artifact worth experiencing.

[1:10:14] That's the one that-

[1:10:15] Yeah, I remember that one.

[1:10:16] That's the-

[1:10:17] The wife of the Secretary of the Treasury.

[1:10:20] Yeah, exactly.

[1:10:21] But you know what one I didn't remember, but that I feel like I was like, oh, that sounds

[1:10:25] like something I'd like.

[1:10:27] What was the-

[1:10:28] Temptations and Confessions of a Marriage Counselor?

[1:10:32] Exactly.

[1:10:33] Yes.

[1:10:34] What was that?

[1:10:35] I don't remember.

[1:10:36] I wasn't on that episode.

[1:10:37] That was one of the Tyler Perry movies, I think.

[1:10:41] Oh, yeah.

[1:10:42] Kim Kardashian was in that.

[1:10:44] What's the one with-

[1:10:45] She was like the secretary.

[1:10:46] What's the one with Beyonce and Idris Elba?

[1:10:49] No, wait.

[1:10:50] I was obsessed, I believe.

[1:10:51] I was on this episode.

[1:10:52] Obsessed.

[1:10:53] Yeah, I don't think I was in Temptations of a Marriage Counselor's Confessions.

[1:10:57] What's it called?

[1:10:58] Temptation?

[1:10:59] Temptation, colon, Confessions of a Marriage Counselor.

[1:11:02] Yeah, I remember that one.

[1:11:05] I don't think I was on that one.

[1:11:07] Because, yeah, that's the first time I saw Kim Kardashian in a movie.

[1:11:09] Elle, you've been on a lot of episodes and you've enriched all of them.

[1:11:12] Oh, thank you.

[1:11:13] You've truly earned your starring role.

[1:11:15] It's been an honor, guys.

[1:11:17] And then to be on the Peach Pit, come on.

[1:11:20] And to be on the Peach Pit.

[1:11:21] Oh, man.

[1:11:22] I'm so happy to have you.

[1:11:24] And obviously, also, thank you so much to my other guest, Dan McCoy and Elliot Kalin.

[1:11:28] So-

[1:11:29] It's always great to be on the Peach Pit.

[1:11:31] I love every time.

[1:11:32] It's rare that you get to be on a fan podcast that is hosted by one of the people involved

[1:11:38] in the original show, unless it's The Office, I guess, in which case they do that.

[1:11:42] Or Scrubs.

[1:11:43] No, they have one for the Caribbean Enthusiast.

[1:11:46] Yeah.

[1:11:47] Oh, really?

[1:11:48] Yeah.

[1:11:49] Who are the hosts of that podcast?

[1:11:50] Susie Essman and Jeff Garlin are doing it.

[1:11:51] Okay.

[1:11:52] Okay.

[1:11:53] That sounds fun.

[1:11:54] I mean, obviously, you know, I'm not only a fan of the show.

[1:11:55] I'm one of the owners.

[1:11:56] Of Caribbean Enthusiast?

[1:11:57] No, of the Flop House.

[1:11:58] Oh, of the Pop Flop House.

[1:11:59] Yeah, right.

[1:12:00] And the Peach Pit.

[1:12:01] Yeah.

[1:12:02] Yeah.

[1:12:03] Yeah.

[1:12:04] Yeah.

[1:12:05] Yeah.

[1:12:06] Yeah.

[1:12:07] Yeah.

[1:12:08] Yeah.

[1:12:09] Yeah.

[1:12:10] Yeah.

[1:12:11] Of the Flop House.

[1:12:12] Of the Pop Flop House.

[1:12:13] Yeah, right.

[1:12:14] And the Peach Pit.

[1:12:15] Yeah, yeah.

[1:12:16] Uh-huh.

[1:12:17] Yeah.

[1:12:18] Sure.

[1:12:19] Now, since you guys were so nice to come on my show, do you have any plugs?

[1:12:20] Do you have anything you'd like to plug?

[1:12:21] Well, I'd like to plug the MaxFunDrive.

[1:12:24] Okay.

[1:12:25] Insert that here.

[1:12:26] Yeah.

[1:12:27] Before we go, just one more word about the MaxFunDrive.

[1:12:29] If you've never been a MaxFun member, try it out at just $5 a month.

[1:12:34] Enjoy the bonus content.

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[1:12:44] I'm just going to remind some of the thank you gifts that you can only get for the two

[1:12:49] weeks of MaxFunDrive.

[1:12:51] There's our cool enamel collectible pen for the Flop House in which Werner Herzog is saying

[1:12:58] his famous catchphrase, I'm a bad widdle boy, according to us.

[1:13:03] Heard on the set of Fitzcarraldo many times.

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[1:13:18] Other levels have great gifts like there's a chess set or because it's a pledge drive,

[1:13:22] you know there's a tote bag in there.

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[1:13:28] I know that not everyone who enjoys the show can afford to give five bucks a month.

[1:13:33] We totally get that.

[1:13:34] If you're one of those people, we appreciate you listening and if you have the energy,

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[1:13:59] A lot of things in the world are shitty right now.

[1:14:01] So why not put your money towards something that hopefully brings joy to yourself and

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[1:14:30] We can continue to make the show the way we want to make it for you to enjoy and in return,

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[1:14:52] We really appreciate the kind, giving, and supportive audience that's you guys that allow

[1:14:58] us to do this show.

[1:15:01] Hallie?

[1:15:02] I'd like to.

[1:15:05] No, check out my sub stack.

[1:15:09] Yeah, sure.

[1:15:10] You said that like it's a joke, but that's a really good newsletter.

[1:15:14] Yeah, yeah.

[1:15:15] Check out my newsletter.

[1:15:16] That hurts my feelings.

[1:15:19] Yeah, that's great.

[1:15:21] Live on sub stack.

[1:15:22] I read it immediately upon publication.

[1:15:25] I read it too.

[1:15:27] I would also like to give a special shout out to the all the Flatpass fans who came

[1:15:32] out for the like impromptu meetup I did out in Melbourne.

[1:15:37] It was a ton of fun and it was really nice to get to catch up with some folks while I

[1:15:42] was there and also thanks again to everybody who DM'd me recommendations of restaurants

[1:15:48] and bars to hit in the various towns I went to.

[1:15:51] I ate and drank like a maniac.

[1:15:53] So many oat flat whites, so many mezcal Negronis.

[1:15:56] It's coming out my pores.

[1:15:59] And I'd like to take a moment to say no thank you to all the Flatpass fans in Milburn, my

[1:16:04] hometown where I was recently and no one came out to see me.

[1:16:07] Maybe because I didn't tell anyone I was going to be there.

[1:16:10] Yeah, yeah.

[1:16:11] LA doesn't have the same, you know, unceasing desire for adulation of fans.

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[1:16:46] And yeah, so I've been Stuart Wellington.

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FH Mini 99 - The Peach Pit Welcomes Hallie!

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