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Flop House 2024 BoCo TEASER!
Transcript
Dan McCoy
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Hey there, it's Dan, reminding you that the Flophouse simply could not happen without the support of listeners like you.
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We provide the nonsense for your ears while you're commuting or doing laundry or performing life-saving brain surgery,
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and you provide the funding that keeps us pumping out the show week after week.
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It's a symbiotic relationship, so won't you be the Venoms to our Eddie Brock and go to MaximumFun.org slash join and become a sustaining member?
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As a small thank you at the $5 a month level, you'll get access to MaxFun's back catalog of bonus content, including years of Flophouse material.
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Here's a free taste of just one of this year's bonus episodes.
Elliott Kalan
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Dan, what do we do on this podcast about bad movies?
Dan McCoy
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This is a podcast where we talk about a bad movie.
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This one was 1997 Spawn, and boy is it 1997 bottled, distilled and bottled up, and given back to me years later.
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In a form that I can say, I didn't like this at the time, but now I'm kind of nostalgic for it.
Elliott Kalan
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Nostalgia truly is the sweetest balm that takes the crap of yesteryear and turns it into the delicacy of today.
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Only for the people who knew it was crap originally, though.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's as if Red Bull aged like wine.
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How do you know it doesn't?
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Gotta try.
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All right.
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Find me some 100-year-old Red Bull.
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I said that like I was the host of Family Feud.
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Show me 100-year-old Red Bull.
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Red Bull.
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Sorry, zero people said that.
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Most of them knew it's not a thing that exists.
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Yeah, most of them.
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It's exciting that we're in Los Angeles because we're about to tell you a story about the war between heaven and hell,
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as represented through some of the worst CGI ever put forth in a movie.
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Shall we talk about this movie, Spawn?
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Let's talk about Spawn.
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Before we talk about the movie, Spawn, I want to talk to you about the...
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So who here is familiar with the comic book, Spawn?
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All right.
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Okay, not bad.
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Spawn created by Todd McFarlane, one of the founders of Image Comics.
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The story of a guy who goes to hell and comes back with a cape so big it blots out the sun.
Stuart Wellington
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I mean, I kind of like, I feel like modern superhero design is so keyed around not having capes that he's like,
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what if he was more cape than character capes?
Elliott Kalan
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I feel like he kind of helped kill capes because he used up all the material.
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When they design more heroes, they're like, I wish I could put a cape on him, but I can't.
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So I guess...
Dan McCoy
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Spawn wasn't here yesterday.
Elliott Kalan
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Clean me out.
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Excuse me, do you have any red cape material?
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Sorry, Spawn's here.
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Oh, don't have a tale to tell you.
Dan McCoy
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This guy with some living change bought it all up.
Elliott Kalan
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I kept saying, is that enough cape?
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And he kept saying, more cape.
Stuart Wellington
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Yeah, I was standing next to his table and like, say when, and he just didn't.
Elliott Kalan
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Yeah.
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So let's talk about it.
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Okay, the movie starts as every good movie does, with a voiceover over CGI flames,
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as we are told the story of how the Lord of Hell, Malabolgia,
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a character who has a design that didn't look great in the comics and looks even worse in a film,
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has set, all the demons in this are either, are super weirdly shaped.
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There's really only two of them.
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Malabolgia has a huge pot belly and a big head of red hair,
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and a long jaw that goes out way farther in the bottom than the top.
Dan McCoy
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Yeah, I mean, it, I mean, I kind of liked the way it looked in the comic.
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As silly as it was, like, it works in a way there that it doesn't work here.
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Yeah.
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But it did feel like Todd McFarlane was like, what's going to be really scary is
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if all of the proportions are really weird and like, they don't like,
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what if his jaw didn't match the top of his jaw?
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Yeah.
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It would just make it hard to bite things, I guess.
Stuart Wellington
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Yeah, he looks like a hyena man.
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The, I guess, here's some fun facts from special effects mastermind Steve Kostansky.
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He says, first, the 3D model they used was originally for American Werewolf in Paris.
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Oh.
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And, oh yeah, it's pretty good news you can use.
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And also that they originally made like a rod puppet that they just ended up scrapping and not using.
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But I have a picture on my phone of that, so I can show it to you after the show.
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Wow, cool.
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I can see it.
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You can show it individually to everyone here after the show.
Elliott Kalan
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Yeah, come up to Dan, and I'll send it to him, and then he'll show you.
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If you know the password, I guess.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, let's airdrop it to all of you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Just turn your security off.
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Oh, man.
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Anyway, making Malibuja even scarier is that they could not get his mouth
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to animate properly for talking, I guess.
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So he just opens his mouth, and the voice of Frank Welker, Dr. Claw.
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Yeah, Dr. Claw.
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Yeah.
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Frank Welker's done a lot of voices, but he's doing the Dr. Claw voice here.
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Yeah.
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He's the leader of hell.
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He got his doctorate, right?
Stuart Wellington
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He got his doctorate.
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He's not just Mr. Claw.
Elliott Kalan
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Yeah, he's a medical doctor, actually.
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But his doctorate is in English literature.
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That's the thing.
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Yeah.
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So here's the thing.
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You have to imagine that Inspector Gadget was in a battle with the devil all that time.
Dan McCoy
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That's all for that teaser, but I wanted to let you know that we'll be dropping at least three more bonus
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episodes throughout the year, focusing on the flopography of schlockmeister Graydon Clark,
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whom you may remember as the director of the mutant cat film Uninvited that we covered in our first episode
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with Gillian Flynn.
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First, we're going to tackle Joysticks, a trashy 80s sex comedy set in the most sensual location of all,
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a video arcade, with an iconic performance from future White Lotus star John Grease as King Vidiot.
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Then we'll discuss one of the two movies both released in 1990 about the Lombada.
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This one, The Forbidden Dance.
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This is the one with future Mulholland Drive star Laura Herring as an Amazon princess who comes to America to use the power of sexy dance to save the rainforest.
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And then we're going to cover Star Games, the only one of the three I haven't seen,
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but it features a late-life performance from Tony Curtis,
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and the video box has some kind of sad clown in like a space triangle, like he's trapped in the phantom zone.
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So I'm very excited to see what is up with that clown.
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On top of that, no guarantees just yet, but I hear rumblings from Stuart
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that he wants to run another campaign of his popular Flop Tales actual play RPG series,
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which you can only hear in our bonus episodes.
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And just to give you a taste of some of the bonuses we put out in previous years,
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there's our Bratz DVD commentary,
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our Cats DVD commentary,
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a Country Bears commentary,
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a live Battlefield Earth show,
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a couple of crossovers with the Greatest Generation podcast,
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we did some bad TV episodes on stuff like Small Wonder,
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Rubik the Amazing Cube,
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Studio 60,
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we did a whole episode that was just Radio Zork,
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look, I cannot list them all,
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but if you want access to this library,
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and more importantly,
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want to keep the show you've loved and or tolerated going all these years,
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head to MaximumFun.org
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slash donate
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to become a member at the $5 or more level.
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And to all our listeners,
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whether you support the show financially,
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or can't quite swing it right now,
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thank you so much for listening.
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We quite literally do it because of you.
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Thanks.
Description
Hear a teaser of this year's bonus episode about SPAWN (1997), as well as a rundown of some of our other bonus content from the past and planned for the future, all available to Maximum Fun members who support the show at the $5 a month or more tier.
Help support this show and unlock bonus content! Become a member at https://maximumfun.org/joinflop