FH Mini 128 - Listener Roulette, with Hallie Haglund

[0:00] Hey, everyone, and welcome to The Flophouse.

[0:06] I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:07] Hey, Dan McCoy.

[0:08] I'm Stuart Wellington.

[0:09] You know, you guys haven't met me before, but it's time that we shared names as well.

[0:13] I'm Elliot Kalin, and joining us once again, two weeks in a row, by popular demand, who

[0:18] is it but the star of the show herself, Allie Haklin.

[0:22] And what's your song?

[0:26] Okay, so, you know, if you're a regular listener or if not, you know, you're a first timer.

[0:38] Our main thing that we do is we watch a bad movie and then we talk about it.

[0:42] But every other week...

[0:43] And what movie are we watching today, Dan?

[0:44] No, no, that was a wind up to say that that's not what we're doing this week.

[0:48] Every other week, we do what we call a Flophouse Mini, a slightly shorter version of the show

[0:55] where we just sort of freestyle it.

[0:58] And this time, I'm in charge.

[0:59] Oh, you're in my world.

[1:01] Yeah.

[1:02] Watch out.

[1:03] The Danager is here.

[1:04] Oh, no.

[1:05] Lawnmower Dan.

[1:06] Although...

[1:07] Although, in this episode, am I in charge?

[1:12] Because I'm going to do a little thing.

[1:13] I don't know what to believe anymore.

[1:14] I don't know what's going on.

[1:17] I'm so lost.

[1:18] I'm...

[1:19] This is a new thing we're going to do called...

[1:22] It's a Blue Sky Roulette.

[1:24] Over on Blue Sky, where we have a Flophouse account, we're off the bad place.

[1:31] We are at Blue Sky now for all the, you know, short little things that we post.

[1:36] Yeah, we're going to be riffing on some skeets here.

[1:38] Well, I asked our followers for things that they would like us to talk on, like possible

[1:46] topics that would be good for a mini.

[1:48] I took the first 20 or so.

[1:51] I put them in a list.

[1:53] We're going to do a little roulette.

[1:54] We're going to pick four at random and, you know, just chat about these a little bit.

[2:01] So I'm going to tap my randomizer app.

[2:04] Oh, yeah.

[2:05] Game Master's in charge.

[2:06] Tap that.

[2:07] Yeah.

[2:08] Tap that app.

[2:09] Yeah.

[2:10] Make that happen.

[2:13] What live action movies could be better as an animated feature?

[2:18] Snow White.

[2:19] How to Train Your Dragon.

[2:21] Lilo and Stitch.

[2:22] Beauty and the Beast.

[2:23] The Jungle Book.

[2:24] The Lion King.

[2:25] Yeah.

[2:26] Move on straight to Lion King 2.

[2:27] That even as an animated film, I think would have its issues.

[2:28] Yeah, yeah.

[2:29] Yeah.

[2:30] Black Cauldron.

[2:31] No, I think you got the best ones.

[2:32] I think a lot of people have made the point over the years that, you know, one of the best

[2:33] versions of a superhero movie we've gotten is The Incredibles, because there's certain

[2:34] things that, you know, you can't do.

[2:35] You can't do that.

[2:45] So, I'm so sorry, guys.

[2:46] I appreciate it, but, you know, the majority of the, you know, most of the, you know, one

[2:47] of the best versions of a, of a superhero movie we've gotten is The Incredibles.

[2:49] Because there's certain things that you can do in animation that you can't do as well

[2:55] in live action.

[2:56] Or the Spider-verse movies.

[2:57] Yeah, the Spider-verse movies.

[2:58] I think both of those are wrong though, because the best superhero movie is still Spider-Man

[3:01] 2.

[3:02] It's still Spider-Man 2.

[3:03] But when you look at the average, you know, the average of those movies.

[3:05] Yeah.

[3:06] I would argue that I think the Harry Potter movies would be better as animated movies

[3:09] than as live action movies.

[3:10] If only because the live action movies, even the best of them, that I've seen at least,

[3:14] have a certain cheapness in the look about them.

[3:17] Like, it all looks very, um...

[3:19] Except for part three.

[3:20] Except, even, even parts of part three.

[3:22] There's parts where I'm like, I wish there was either more scale to this, or it was like,

[3:26] looked darker, or, I don't know, like it, like, I feel like there's more you can do

[3:29] in, in an animation to make the magic look cool.

[3:32] But it would be 2D animation.

[3:33] Not CGI.

[3:34] Hold on a second.

[3:35] I'm talking about a 2D animated, uh, Harry Potter movie.

[3:37] And it's called The Pagemaster.

[3:39] Mmm.

[3:40] Mmm.

[3:41] Yeah.

[3:42] It's funny that you say that, Ellie, because the, I'm of an age, I'm old enough that I

[3:49] automatically was thinking about 2D animation, even though, even though it is by far the

[3:56] outlier now.

[3:57] Yes.

[3:58] For it to not be computer animation.

[3:59] But there have been, I've seen a number of computer animated movies now that have 2D

[4:03] animated sequences, and there's always something really exciting and really, like, fun about

[4:07] them.

[4:09] Yeah.

[4:10] And there's room for both.

[4:11] There's room for CGI movies and, and 2D movies.

[4:12] But, but that's one that I would think of, maybe, you know.

[4:15] Extremely strange to me that, uh, all the, you know, the animation houses were like,

[4:20] well, guess it's the future now.

[4:22] Toss all the rest of these animators out in the trash, you know, like.

[4:25] It was, it was the short-sightedness of, that we're seeing again, of technology can replace

[4:30] people and then find it like, oh, it turns out the technology is actually far more expensive

[4:34] than, than the people were.

[4:37] Yeah.

[4:38] But there's always the hope that you can, you can replace them with something that will

[4:41] just be a machine that keeps working forever.

[4:43] But let's move on.

[4:44] You have Miyazaki.

[4:45] I do.

[4:46] You have so much institutional knowledge at that point, too.

[4:49] Like, that's not just the, the, the people themselves, it's like the built-up knowledge

[4:54] that they're just like, and now bulldoze it.

[4:56] Now, I don't want anyone to take this as an endorsement on my part of the Harry Potter

[5:00] stories, which I don't like particularly, but that is a series that I think would function

[5:04] better as animated than a, than live action.

[5:06] Good wave.

[5:08] What do you guys think?

[5:09] What do you guys think?

[5:10] Uh, well, I've said some things.

[5:11] I don't know.

[5:12] Maybe like John Wick.

[5:13] Really?

[5:14] No, that's not true.

[5:15] But I feel like I'm surprised there isn't like a John Wick animated scene.

[5:18] I mean, I would love to see more just straight up action done in animation.

[5:26] Like at this point that so many action films have reached a point where like physics don't

[5:32] matter.

[5:33] I don't really take it to a world where that kind of feels more interesting than just like

[5:40] faking it in quote, unquote, real world.

[5:43] But Hallie has a pondering look on her face.

[5:46] I mean, you mentioned Barry Riley in the last episode.

[5:49] No, keep, keep that live action.

[5:52] Oh, yeah.

[5:53] Because you want to see that malk?

[5:54] Yeah.

[5:55] Yeah.

[5:56] Uh.

[5:57] Got malked?

[5:58] That's Hallie.

[5:59] Uh, no.

[6:00] Did you want to say Aaron Burr on that radio contest, but your mouth is full of malks.

[6:07] I thought you were going to say it.

[6:08] Sorry, Hallie.

[6:09] That was disgusting.

[6:10] No, uh.

[6:11] Only when you think about it.

[6:16] Only when, if you don't think about things, they're rarely as disgusting as you think

[6:20] about it.

[6:21] If you don't think about them, then the world is a lot better when you don't think about

[6:24] it.

[6:25] I was trying to think of, I don't know.

[6:27] I don't, I don't really like animated stuff.

[6:29] Wow.

[6:30] You don't.

[6:31] So we learned last week, you don't like fights, singing, dancing, now you don't like animation.

[6:36] What do you like in movies, Hallie?

[6:38] Tears.

[6:39] Tears?

[6:40] Tears.

[6:41] Tears.

[6:42] You like them.

[6:43] You like a realistic movie about people.

[6:44] I mean, like, uh, uh, was it His Three Daughters?

[6:47] That's probably a movie.

[6:48] Yeah.

[6:49] I love that movie.

[6:50] It was great.

[6:51] I remember Stuart recommended that one time.

[6:52] Yeah.

[6:53] Stuart loved it.

[6:54] It was great.

[6:55] I like the realistic.

[6:56] It was hilarious.

[6:57] I was trying to think of like, what's the, just a movie that would make no sense, uh,

[7:04] in animation, but would be kind of cool.

[7:07] I was trying to think of like a rom-com or something that, uh, might be fun.

[7:12] How to lose a guy in 10 days animated.

[7:15] You know, I was going to say like, Hallie likes a realistic movie, like, uh, Three Men

[7:19] and a Baby.

[7:20] Cause we did that in LA and, uh, and she really had a kick.

[7:25] So at first I thought she only liked movies with three in the title, Three Daughters,

[7:29] Three Men and a Baby.

[7:30] But now she says how to lose a guy in 10 days.

[7:32] So apparently she likes numerals.

[7:33] As long as there's numbers.

[7:34] As long as there's numbers.

[7:35] Yeah.

[7:36] Uh, I was also thinking, what would Look Who's Talking be a good animated movie?

[7:41] And then I was like, hell no, that would take the whole fun out of it.

[7:44] That's basically Boss Baby at that point.

[7:46] Yeah.

[7:47] No, thank you.

[7:48] Yeah.

[7:49] But a big hit.

[7:50] Hallie could have made Boss Baby.

[7:51] You could have made Boss Baby, Hallie.

[7:52] Yeah.

[7:53] I could have made Boss Baby, but I'm playing.

[7:54] All right.

[7:55] Well, let's, uh, let's, uh, move on to a different, uh, I'm going to hit that random.

[7:56] I'm going to tap that app.

[7:57] Tap the app.

[7:58] Yeah.

[7:59] Okay.

[8:00] What do we got here?

[8:01] Okay.

[8:02] Here's a, here's a topic.

[8:03] What movies should be made into video games?

[8:04] What movies shouldn't?

[8:05] What kind of game would you pitch if you were hired to adapt Eraserhead?

[8:06] Hmm.

[8:07] Hmm.

[8:08] Hmm.

[8:09] Hmm.

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[8:28] Hmm.

[8:29] Hmm.

[8:30] Hmm.

[8:31] I feel like Eraserhead works pretty well as one of those games where you just kind of

[8:32] wander around and...

[8:33] Yeah.

[8:34] ...creepy things are there, but you're not really, you're not really doing much of anything.

[8:35] Yeah, it's one of those already indie games where, like, stuff doesn't happen.

[8:36] Yeah.

[8:37] Yeah.

[8:38] History Daughters?

[8:39] That kind of works as a game, like a game you have to navigate conversations between

[8:40] people.

[8:41] Yeah.

[8:42] I agree.

[8:43] Yeah.

[8:44] History Daughters would be a great side-scrolling game where, like, beat them up where you're

[8:45] like jumping over, like, uh, I don't know, like, uh, boyfriends or...

[8:48] Yeah.

[8:49] You're like, how big is this apartment?

[8:50] Yeah.

[8:51] So you choose from one, which of the three daughters you're going to be.

[8:52] Each one has a different ability.

[8:53] Platforming.

[8:54] Yeah.

[8:55] You got a platform.

[8:56] Yeah.

[8:57] You're just side-scrolling through the apartment the whole time.

[8:58] Yeah.

[8:59] Yeah.

[9:00] What are the different abilities of the...

[9:01] Yeah, they have different abilities.

[9:02] ...of the daughters?

[9:03] Uh, well, Natasha Lyonne has that raspy voice.

[9:04] Uh...

[9:05] So that's an ability?

[9:06] Uh-huh.

[9:07] That's...

[9:08] Yes.

[9:09] That's why I listen to it.

[9:10] What does it do?

[9:11] These are stats.

[9:12] Gameplay.

[9:13] Like, what is the...

[9:14] Elizabeth Olsen is yoga.

[9:15] Yeah.

[9:16] Okay.

[9:17] Yeah.

[9:18] Yeah.

[9:19] Does, like, Carrie Coon, super uptight.

[9:20] Yeah.

[9:21] But she makes a salad, right?

[9:22] So that's something.

[9:23] She does make a salad.

[9:24] That is something.

[9:25] Yeah.

[9:26] Yeah.

[9:27] So she can chalk guys up.

[9:28] Natasha Lyonne smokes weed outside.

[9:29] That's, uh...

[9:30] Okay.

[9:31] ...that's part of it.

[9:32] I feel like...

[9:33] She likes baseball.

[9:34] She doesn't put out a wine bottle.

[9:35] She's, like, breaking bottles and...

[9:36] Yeah, yeah, I love it.

[9:37] ...sticking them in your face.

[9:38] I feel like I understand the bonus rounds better than the actual gameplay, where with

[9:39] Natasha Lyonne, it's like, how many puffs can you take on this before you get... before

[9:43] you get told by the security guy that you gotta stop, because he can't do it outside.

[9:46] Yeah.

[9:47] With Carrie Coon, it's like, you gotta chop up the salad really fast, you know, in a certain

[9:51] amount of time.

[9:52] It's like the Karate Kid video game, where you had to catch flies with chopsticks for

[9:55] the bonus round.

[9:56] Uh-huh, yeah.

[9:57] Or Street Fighter, when you're breaking that car.

[9:59] Or, like, in Joker.

[10:00] where you have to ram jaws with the front of your ship and you shock him out of the water.

[10:03] And with that, with that, Elizabeth Olsen, it's like, it's like moving between yoga positions,

[10:07] maybe quickly, you know? Uh, yeah, it's pretty good. Um, still haven't seen the movie,

[10:12] but I assume this is all great stuff. I mean, this is pretty, I mean, you, you got it right

[10:16] now. You pretty much have found it. And the end boss is, is the dad. The end boss of the game is

[10:21] you have to defeat the dad. Yeah. He rises up basically dead. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's

[10:26] just like, I was just playing Sekiro where you have to fight your dad a couple of times and he's

[10:30] such an asshole, but you beat him and he like finally respects you. It's great. What a game.

[10:34] Okay. Sakura. Yeah. Yeah. You're the one-armed wolf and he throws poison on you and you're like,

[10:40] what the hell dad? But that's all that, you know, that's the, that's the double-edged

[10:45] sword of Shinobi. You know what I mean? I don't, I don't know what you mean at all.

[10:49] Do you guys, did you guys ever watch the show Terrace House is like a Japanese reality show?

[10:55] I tried to watch it because, uh, our, uh, our network mates, uh, had a podcast,

[11:02] Griffin McElroy loved that show. And I'm like, oh, that sounds interesting. And then I immediately

[11:06] was like, this is not for me, but you watched it. I loved it. Yeah. Yeah. But what's the premise

[11:11] of Terrace House for those of us who aren't familiar? It's sort of like big brother,

[11:15] except they can leave. It's just like a bunch of people living in a, well, it's like the real world

[11:19] people stop acting polite and start getting real except they are very polite. Yeah. Yeah.

[11:25] If you stop acting polite and start getting real Japan, it is a big time.

[11:28] Yeah. It gets slightly less polite. Yeah. No, they're like, uh, but it's so,

[11:32] I mean, it ended horribly. There was like a online bullying thing that led to a person's suicide.

[11:39] It's terrible. I wish you told us that before we started making fun of it. It's awful. And then,

[11:43] and so they stopped the show, but until then it's, it's like very bizarre that that happened

[11:48] with the show because it's so, it's like so relaxing. Everybody is so nice to each other.

[11:54] Like the things that they talk about are actually, um, they're actually like meaningful conversations

[12:00] about like, this is, I, I don't want to disappoint my parents by choosing this career path, but this

[12:07] is my passion. I want to make comics. And, um, so I was thinking that would be a really fun video

[12:13] game. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, what type of game, what are, what do you do as the player? What's

[12:19] the sit around and talk? There aren't enough video games like that. I mean, there's going

[12:24] to be a lot more considering Mark Zuckerberg the other day was like, people don't have enough

[12:27] friends, but we think that as AI can fill that role. It's like, this is the worst world we're

[12:31] living in. We're living in the bad world, but yeah, you can just talk to an imaginary person

[12:36] who might slowly, you know, ruin your mental health and is extracting information from you

[12:42] so that we can sell you to advertisers. You know, there's no, there's no good side to that.

[12:47] There's no good side to, uh, I get, you know what, there's one good side I could see. Um,

[12:51] except that it would have inevitably be used to scam them. Like the lonely elderly, you know,

[12:56] I can see them having their digital friends, but you should get your imaginary friends,

[13:00] the old fashioned way through podcasting. I remember my old roommate, Brian Chan once told

[13:04] me about a, uh, they were, he's a video game guy and they were trying to, he was reading a thing

[13:08] about people, um, trying to video game guy like a solid snake or Mario. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. He's

[13:15] a Mario or Waluigi. He's a Waluigi. But he was saying that years ago about this video game

[13:21] designer was talking about his idea for a game for the elderly, which was you would give them

[13:25] like a did like an electronic pet, like a, like a, a robot cat or dog. And when, when it was only

[13:31] them and the old person around, it would start to talk to them, but it wouldn't talk to them

[13:34] when there are other people around and start to tell them to go to places. And when they would

[13:37] go to that place, other old people with robot pets would be led to that place too. And then you'd

[13:42] make friends in real life. You'd kind of be tricked by your, your sneaky pet into going to a place

[13:47] where you could make a friend. It began so horrifying, the sudden twist into like kind of

[13:52] being nice, surprised me. And I feel like this is kind of like that, except instead of saying,

[13:56] go to this other place and meet these people, it's saying, give me your money. Uh, and, and it'll be

[14:02] great, you know, so it's a bad, you know, fine, fine, fine. Third spaces, people go to one of

[14:07] Stuart's bars. Yes, please go to my bars. Um, so to make a long story short that my dinner with

[14:12] Andre video game from the Simpsons always wanted to play that. Okay. Well, let's do one more of

[14:17] these before taking a short break, uh, to hear a word from our sponsor, uh, and this, okay.

[14:23] Number 12. Let me just scroll down. Pardon me as I burp. How do you approach your board strikes

[14:30] again? Yeah. I had some jerk work. How do you approach getting into a new realm of pop culture,

[14:35] like a fantasy series, genre of music, era of movies, et cetera. How do you start? How do you

[14:41] expand? How do you decide what's next? What's next? I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't usually

[14:47] make a plan. Although like, I mean, sometimes that squares, but it's like, you know, if you're

[14:54] getting into something, it's like an organic process, right? You're like, you want, you see

[14:58] something that sparks your interests. You encounter one piece of this like type of art,

[15:04] and then you're like, okay, like, let me follow this rabbit hole. And, and then that involves,

[15:11] I don't know, like Googling, like, Oh, what, what's good in this? What are the best, uh,

[15:16] what are the best things, uh, in this, like the experts, uh, what do they say? You know, like,

[15:23] I don't know. I was saying to a friend, um, recently, every once in a while, I'm like,

[15:28] I'm going to get into old science fiction novels. But then my, you've been trying to do that for a

[15:33] while. Yeah. My fugue state, my ADHD fugue state that I'm in then dissipates and I don't do it.

[15:38] But I asked Elliot because I'm like, who knows about this? Elliot, Elliot Kalin. So that's my

[15:44] thing. I asked Elliot. Yeah. Yeah. Well, like asking a friend who is a little more, has a little

[15:50] more background in the area, I think is a pretty natural, uh, way to start. Yeah. I think there's a

[15:55] something to avoid and this is something I used to fall into and I'm trying not to anymore is

[16:00] confusing, getting into a thing with mastering it and knowing everything about it and being really

[16:05] comprehensive. And I feel like I used to be one of these people who it's like, I really liked this

[16:09] one book by this writer. I'm now going to read every single book that that writer wrote. So I'll

[16:13] have read their entire bibliography or I need to know everything about this kinds of movie.

[16:17] And I find I enjoy it more when I just like dancing. I kind of let things happen a little

[16:21] more organically and I don't feel like I need to know everything. Like I love,

[16:25] as people know, listen, I love check new wave films and I'm constantly discovering new ones

[16:29] that I didn't know anything about. And there was a time in my life when I would be frustrated by

[16:32] that. And now I'm trying to feel more like, oh no, okay. I don't need to, I don't need to have

[16:36] seen every single one of these movies to be a fan of it. And I can just discover them. And if I

[16:40] discover a new one, I don't have to immediately make that the top priority to check it off my

[16:44] list. But in general, I like to, um, yeah, if I, if there's a thing that I like, then I'll look

[16:49] out another thing like it, or I'll ask somebody what's another one of these. Um, and I found that,

[16:54] um, there's one, the only algorithm that works for me in doing this kind of thing is if I like,

[17:00] if there's a new kind of music that I'm not familiar with or music that's new to me,

[17:03] that listening to it on YouTube tends to bring me more things that I like that aren't even

[17:09] necessarily the same as that, but are kind of similar. That's the one algorithm that works

[17:11] for me is YouTube's music algorithm, but everything else is just a matter of like trying

[17:15] to stumble on things. You know, if I, if I'm in a, uh, I love to go to used bookstores and I always

[17:20] look at their science fiction section and I always want to buy a couple of science fiction paperbacks

[17:24] that I know nothing about. And that's opened up a lot for me in that world, you know, where it's

[17:28] like, oh, I never even heard of this thing. Let me try it. What's this cover about? Uh, this looks,

[17:33] this is nuts. All right, I'll try it. It's good. So, you know, just let yourself stumble on stuff

[17:37] rather than actively pursuing it, feeling like you need to become a master of it, you know?

[17:41] Yeah, that used to be my, I mean, back in the video store days, that used to be arguably one

[17:46] of my favorite things to do with friends. We would go in and we would go through the horror movie

[17:51] section and try and find the ones with the craziest covers that we had not seen yet.

[17:55] And then we would rent like a stack of a bunch of them, stay up all night, drinking Mountain Dew,

[18:00] smoking weed, watching these movies. And it was great. That's time of my life right there. Pizza

[18:05] rolls. Hell yeah. That's Stuart's tip is if you're trying to get into something, pizza rolls.

[18:12] Stuart, that script that I just sent you, I wrote in some pizza rolls in there. I'm

[18:16] not very excited. Yeah, I can't wait to bite into it. I'm the same way. I'm going to say real quick,

[18:22] I'm also the same way where I have a tendency to like rabbit hole myself and I get in a little,

[18:27] like I have a tendency to get into deep and I've been trying to get better about,

[18:30] especially if I find something that I like to not rush and try and watch or read all the things by

[18:36] that person or in that vein, because it is fun to have those things later on when I'm like,

[18:42] no, I'm in the mood to watch this super sad thing that I know I'm going to connect with,

[18:46] but I don't need to force that into every like immediacy.

[18:50] This is a choice I made with the novels of Italo Calvino, where I was like,

[18:55] there's only a limited number of these. I really love them. I'm going to hold off and not read

[19:00] them all in a row and I'm going to kind of space them out for myself so that I have more to

[19:04] discover as I get older and I'm probably going to enjoy it more as I'm older and I understand it

[19:07] more. I would say if you have to make a plan, you're not that into it to begin with.

[19:16] That's probably a good point. Because I'm trying to think, I mean, it's usually not a problem for me

[19:23] to embed myself with something. For example, one of my recent passions has been, I took my kid to

[19:34] the Minecraft movie. Historically, I've sort of hated Jack Black, but all of a sudden I was like,

[19:40] wait a second, I love this guy. He just wants to have a good time. He just wants to spread joy.

[19:45] And you know what I'm looking for? I'm looking for some joy in my life. So I just started,

[19:50] I realized there are so many Jack Black movies I've never seen. I mean,

[19:54] I love Nacho Libre, famously once watched Nacho Libre twice in a row.

[20:00] on an airplane, but had I ever seen Orange is the New Yorker, yeah, everybody knows that

[20:05] about me.

[20:06] It's on the back of the DVD box.

[20:08] It's sad in that I went to the same high school as Don Cheadle.

[20:11] Everybody knows that.

[20:12] Everyone knows that, yeah.

[20:13] Yeah.

[20:14] These are both in the dictionary of literary anecdotes.

[20:15] Yeah.

[20:16] Yeah.

[20:17] Do you guys hang out a lot, you and Don Cheadle?

[20:18] No.

[20:19] Not at the same time.

[20:20] Not at the same time.

[20:21] Really?

[20:22] Yeah.

[20:23] Yeah.

[20:24] But you hung out at the same school at different times.

[20:25] Yeah.

[20:26] Yeah.

[20:27] Yeah.

[20:28] I walked into my classroom and I would sniff the air and say, Don Cheadle was here.

[20:34] I will say that when you say no plan, I like making lists for myself just because I know

[20:41] I'll forget stuff otherwise, but I'm trying to get better at once I have those lists.

[20:48] Actually acting on it?

[20:49] No, no.

[20:50] The opposite.

[20:51] Not forcing it or not being like, sometimes I'll be like, well, I want to watch something.

[20:55] I'm not going to get to this thing unless I make a point of it.

[21:00] That can be fine.

[21:01] But I also think it's better if you're actually conscious of like, what mood am I in right

[21:07] now?

[21:08] Like, what am I receptive to?

[21:09] Because even if you might like something at a different time, if you're forcing it, it's

[21:13] not going to be good.

[21:14] I'm not going to watch this serious movie.

[21:16] Time to get stalked by my doctor.

[21:18] Okay.

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[22:18] Mostly I have guilty things around.

[22:20] Snacks and desserts that have been used in murders, yeah.

[22:23] Yeah.

[22:24] And convicted.

[22:25] And found guilty in a court of law.

[22:26] But it's not just alleged.

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[22:28] No, no.

[22:29] They haven't been convicted.

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[22:32] We're verging on unfrosted territory, guys.

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[22:36] Oh, you're right, Stu.

[22:38] Of the flop house, I am known to be the one who perhaps most enjoys cooking.

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[23:02] You know, a lot of pre-made stuff, not so good.

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[23:10] Of all time?

[23:11] No.

[23:12] I don't know if I remember a specific.

[23:13] If you were on death row and you could only have one Factor meal before they executed

[23:19] you.

[23:20] You're really putting me in a great spot.

[23:21] She's writing some copy here.

[23:22] Yeah, yeah.

[23:23] Because I do, I have enjoyed them, but it has been a long time since I've had one.

[23:27] So I don't know that I have a specific one, but I remember there.

[23:31] We were a Factor house.

[23:32] Factor's very popular in this house.

[23:34] They have a lot of great, one of the things that I've noticed is.

[23:36] Is that a Factor?

[23:38] There are a lot of, there are a lot of, uh, uh, I'm a guy who likes to eat meat.

[23:43] I apologize.

[23:44] Uh, but there's a lot of, uh, there's a lot of food by the, by mail things where the meat

[23:48] just doesn't quite live up, but Factor has a bunch of good dishes with that are meat

[23:52] based dishes.

[23:53] And so I really like those, but I don't get to eat them that much because I think as I've

[23:56] talked about on the show before, my wife takes them for lunch at work and I'll be like, today

[24:00] I think I'll have this Factor meal for lunch.

[24:02] It's not there anymore.

[24:03] It's already been taken.

[24:04] That's how in demand they are in my household.

[24:06] Yeah.

[24:07] There's just a little space in your fridge with an outline of a Factor meal.

[24:11] Yeah.

[24:12] Yeah.

[24:13] Yeah.

[24:14] Chalk outline.

[24:15] Yeah.

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[24:38] Now back to, uh, this insidious roulette before we, before we get to roulette, I just want

[24:45] to remind people that, uh, that my new children's picture book, Sadie mouse wrecks the house

[24:49] is out.

[24:50] If you were listening to this episode, the day of its release in the morning and you

[24:53] live in the Los Angeles area, I believe this episode is coming out Saturday, May 17th,

[24:57] this very day.

[24:58] If it's after, if it's before 11am, if you're listening to this first thing, if you're a

[25:02] real wake and listen type of listener, um, I will be appearing in public at once upon

[25:08] a time bookstore in Montrose, California, Saturday, May 17th at 11am to do a story time

[25:13] with this very book.

[25:14] Sadie mouse wrecks the house.

[25:15] You can come by, get a copy of the book, have it signed.

[25:17] I will read it to you.

[25:19] It's going to be really fun.

[25:20] Once upon a time is a great bookstore.

[25:21] Uh, if you've listening to this, if you're listening to this too late, then just get

[25:25] yourself a copy.

[25:26] If you don't live in Los Angeles, go to your local bookstore and get a copy of Sadie mouse

[25:29] wrecks the house for the child in your life or the child in your heart.

[25:32] Hmm.

[25:33] Probably be the latter version of this.

[25:36] There is no audio book version, but like all children's picture books, it is made to be

[25:40] read aloud.

[25:41] I feel like Hallie is pitching herself to be the reader of Sadie mouse wrecks the house.

[25:47] I would love it.

[25:48] I think that I honestly have a je ne sais dis quoi about me.

[25:53] Does she have to read any French then to do?

[25:55] Thankfully she does not.

[25:56] No, not for this one.

[25:57] Unless it's the French edition, uh, which maybe we'll do it.

[26:01] She did.

[26:02] Yeah, she should.

[26:03] Yeah.

[26:04] There was a French edition of horse meets dog.

[26:05] My first children's picture book.

[26:06] So who knows?

[26:07] Maybe a Quebecois version.

[26:08] Yeah.

[26:09] Maybe.

[26:10] Very regional.

[26:11] Creole.

[26:12] Like a Creole version.

[26:13] It is a Creole version.

[26:14] Yeah.

[26:15] Uh, okay.

[26:16] Okay.

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[27:40] Let us, uh, return, uh, to the, uh, questions from listeners.

[27:47] Um, I'm going to tap that app and, uh, every time you say it, I get less comfortable with

[27:52] it.

[27:53] Yeah.

[27:54] That's the point.

[27:55] Dan is putting it on the glass, by which he means his finger on the glass screen of the

[27:58] phone.

[27:59] Doing what his body wants.

[28:00] What makes a good movie fight scene?

[28:04] Does it have to be bloody?

[28:05] Does it need weapons?

[28:06] What are some of your favorite fight scenes?

[28:08] Well, as a, as somebody who doesn't like fight scenes, maybe it's a Mikey likes it sort of

[28:13] situation where if Hallie says that there's a fight scene that is her favorite, then we

[28:18] know it's a good one.

[28:19] I can tell you.

[28:20] I know exactly what I would say.

[28:21] I would say Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.

[28:24] And I will, I think it was because it was the first time I saw a fight scene where like

[28:29] the woman was doing a lot of the fighting.

[28:32] And I think I finally connected with it.

[28:35] So you need to see a little movie called Yes, Madam.

[28:39] Another Michelle Yeoh banger of a movie, which is a lot of fighting.

[28:42] At least look up the big fight scene at the end on YouTube.

[28:45] It's awesome.

[28:46] Or in Cynthia Rothrock.

[28:47] Oh, yeah.

[28:48] Cynthia Rothrock does a lot of great fighting in that movie too.

[28:52] I would say that there are a few things for me.

[28:54] I like a fight scene where the effort is, uh, you know, you could see the effort.

[29:00] I like the realism of like seeing people get tired or like, you need a little movie called

[29:06] Yes, Madam.

[29:08] Feel like they're hurt.

[29:09] You know, like we've talked about how, you know, Harrison Ford is good in movies because

[29:14] it looks like when he gets punched, he does not like it.

[29:17] Or I, you know, like the sword fighting scene and Rob Roy is great because you can see how

[29:22] tired they get.

[29:23] Yeah.

[29:24] Yeah.

[29:25] Um, I like that.

[29:27] I like a sequence that takes advantage of where the sequence happens.

[29:34] You know, like again, environmental elements.

[29:37] Yeah.

[29:38] Whether it be like you're in a confined space like that hammer fight or if it's like Jackie

[29:43] Chan grabbing whatever's around to use in his fight scene.

[29:47] I want a sequence, you know, an IKEA hates to see him.

[29:51] I want a sequence to build.

[29:52] I don't like a fight scene that I mean, like these aren't really fight scenes, but I like

[29:55] a scene where it's like, oh, people are shooting at each other or whatever.

[29:59] And it's like, I'm not.

[30:00] excited by this, you know, great, great.

[30:03] They're ducking behind things, you know?

[30:05] I like it when they're really bad, too,

[30:08] like in The Irishman.

[30:09] Remember, there's this part in The Irishman

[30:11] where Robert De Niro's like kicking people

[30:13] and it's so obviously, like, yeah.

[30:16] There's an old man, yeah.

[30:17] I love that. I love it.

[30:18] That's the best, yeah.

[30:20] Yeah, I mean, I think I'm in with all these.

[30:22] I like it when the action is like legible,

[30:25] like you understand what's happening.

[30:27] I also, one of the things that when you watch,

[30:31] when you watch like good, like Hong Kong action movies

[30:35] is you see how the action has been edited

[30:39] with a specific rhythm so that like,

[30:41] because you'll see people like cut an action scene together

[30:44] with like a dance song and you're like,

[30:46] oh shit, this works so well.

[30:47] Like the throne room scene in The Last Jedi,

[30:52] people kept editing different songs,

[30:54] like Toxic and other things.

[30:56] And it works so well because it's been edited

[30:59] with a specific rhythm and beat.

[31:00] And then like, that's what makes it work.

[31:03] All those things, yeah.

[31:05] Yeah, I think that I agree with everything

[31:07] you guys are saying and everything you're saying,

[31:10] Hallie, when it's bad, it's good sometimes

[31:12] to when they don't know what they're doing.

[31:14] I think the thing that I like is to see,

[31:18] and again, and in Hong Kong martial arts movies

[31:22] are the best often at these,

[31:23] are where the fight is clearly choreographed

[31:26] and edited for a purpose, but it is performed

[31:30] in a way that does not feel extra choreographed.

[31:32] And I feel like in American action movies,

[31:34] there's often a lot of like very precise blocking

[31:38] and very precise like, this does this,

[31:41] and that does this, and this does this.

[31:42] But it comes off often as a dance

[31:47] that has been very heavily choreographed

[31:49] as opposed to someone in the moment

[31:51] is making these choices to block or to punch or whatever.

[31:56] And it's a performance thing.

[31:57] The best kind of like stunt fight performers,

[31:59] I feel like they're able to get it across

[32:01] in a way where just as with acting in general,

[32:04] it feels like a choice being made in the moment

[32:06] rather than here is something

[32:07] that we really blocked the hell out of.

[32:09] And like you look at the,

[32:12] there's a different kind of fight scene,

[32:13] but like the Errol Flynn sword fighting scenes

[32:15] in The Adventures of Robin Hood or Captain Blood,

[32:18] and it has that feeling to me

[32:19] where clearly this was choreographed.

[32:21] They are not just making up fencing moves,

[32:23] especially in The Adventures of Robin Hood

[32:24] where they're going upstairs while they're doing it

[32:26] and things like that.

[32:27] But it feels like the performers

[32:30] are making these choices in the moment

[32:32] rather than just kind of hitting the marks that they need to.

[32:35] And sometimes when I see American action movies,

[32:37] I'm like, this is a really cool choreographed scene,

[32:39] but it feels like I'm watching a,

[32:40] it feels like everybody's in on it.

[32:42] They are, this person is not taking the swing

[32:45] so that they think they're gonna hit them.

[32:46] They're taking the swing so that it can be blocked.

[32:48] And it's a, even a great choreographed fight scene,

[32:53] it needs that extra little bit of performance.

[32:56] And that folds in with taking advantage of the environment

[32:59] and looking, the people looking like they,

[33:02] when they get hit, it hurts and things like that.

[33:04] And that's what I'd say.

[33:06] Let's see what the randomizer has for us next.

[33:10] Oh, 18, well, well.

[33:14] Don't know what that means.

[33:15] Never wanna hear that.

[33:17] I realized after-

[33:18] I hear you use them all.

[33:19] After, I realized after the fact

[33:20] that sounds like an age of consent thing,

[33:24] I just meant to make a joke about it.

[33:27] You chose the wrong number.

[33:28] There's two numbers, Dan, that you can't do that joke with,

[33:30] and 18 is one of them.

[33:32] The other, of course, being 69, yeah.

[33:34] But what do we got here?

[33:37] What pandering to 80s kids IP is still untapped by Hollywood

[33:41] that you would like to see tapped?

[33:43] Ooh, that became a harder question

[33:45] when you said that you would like to see tapped.

[33:46] Yeah.

[33:47] Because I'll tell you what IP has yet to be tapped,

[33:49] but they've been trying, Thundercats,

[33:50] but I don't care about it,

[33:52] and I don't necessarily wanna see it.

[33:54] Yeah.

[33:55] 80s IP.

[33:57] I'm, I mean, like, I'm kind of surprised there isn't,

[34:01] there hasn't been another Goonies thing.

[34:03] I'm sure they've been trying to make another Goonies thing.

[34:06] I bet so.

[34:06] But that feels like a natural,

[34:08] like it ticks, like, with like Stranger Things

[34:12] and all that stuff,

[34:13] like leaning into kids going on adventures.

[34:16] I'm just surprised there hasn't been another.

[34:19] I don't know if I'm looking for it, but.

[34:21] To be honest, this is,

[34:23] that reminds, makes me think of Monster Squad,

[34:25] which already is an IP use thing originally, you know?

[34:29] But the, they've had so much trouble

[34:32] trying to figure out how to use the universal monsters,

[34:35] and maybe to, and I don't think,

[34:37] Monster Squad was not a universal approved thing, right?

[34:40] Or was it?

[34:41] I can't remember.

[34:42] It wasn't, because that's why the Tom Noonan, like,

[34:45] you know, doesn't look like the classic Frankenstein.

[34:48] Yeah.

[34:49] You know, universal.

[34:49] And then Gilman has a different design, right?

[34:51] But the, like, the,

[34:54] that I think, but I could see, like,

[34:55] maybe that's the way into bringing those characters back,

[34:57] is to do, like, a new kind of Monster Squad type thing.

[35:01] And have Universal do it so you can use the,

[35:03] use the designs that people know so well.

[35:05] But, I don't know, Hallie, what about you?

[35:07] I feel like your 80s culture frame of reference

[35:08] is gonna be different than R3's.

[35:10] So I'm curious what you're thinking.

[35:12] Like Popples, something like that?

[35:15] I was thinking-

[35:15] Madballs.

[35:17] I did like Popples.

[35:18] My Pet Monster?

[35:20] No, I was thinking-

[35:21] Kid Sister?

[35:22] Kid Sister, My Buddy and Kid Sister?

[35:25] Yeah.

[35:26] Those are songs that are very popular with my younger son

[35:28] that I'll sing to him while pushing him on a swing.

[35:30] And he thinks they're hilarious, and I don't know why.

[35:34] Do you remember the,

[35:34] A-tisket, a-tasket,

[35:37] the Play-Doh flower basket?

[35:41] Oh, no, I don't remember.

[35:42] Yeah.

[35:43] Oh, yeah.

[35:43] Do you sing,

[35:44] ♪ Wiggles and jiggles and feels so real. ♪

[35:47] ♪ It's my water baby. ♪

[35:49] I didn't remember that one.

[35:50] I didn't remember that one.

[35:51] Yeah, do you sing,

[35:52] ♪ Skip to Malu McNuggets. ♪

[35:55] I do, I think I mentioned last episode,

[35:57] the Ring Pop commercial.

[35:57] I do a lot.

[35:58] ♪ You can wear a ring around your finger, ring pop. ♪

[36:00] ♪ It's a juicy jewel of flavor, ring. ♪

[36:02] I do that a lot.

[36:03] I don't remember that one.

[36:05] Uh,

[36:07] I was thinking of James Bond Jr.

[36:09] Do you guys remember James Bond Jr.?

[36:09] Sure, James Bond Jr.'s chase of scum

[36:12] around the world.

[36:14] Yeah.

[36:15] Yeah.

[36:15] And the Bond series, again,

[36:17] is another one that kind of needs a,

[36:18] needs a refresher.

[36:19] Yeah.

[36:20] Maybe James Bond Jr.'s the way to do it,

[36:21] where it's his nephew who has the same name of him

[36:24] as a junior.

[36:25] Dan, was he the nephew?

[36:26] Do you know?

[36:27] He was the nephew.

[36:28] He was not actually a junior.

[36:29] It's a very weird.

[36:30] I have to assume,

[36:31] I have to assume it was done as James Bond's son originally,

[36:33] and they were like,

[36:34] uh, it kind of hurts the James Bond character

[36:36] if he has a,

[36:37] if he has a family.

[36:38] I mean, he must have a son somewhere.

[36:39] Of course he's got a son.

[36:40] I mean, he has a daughter.

[36:41] He's clearly shooting blanks.

[36:42] Yeah.

[36:43] I'm, I'm scrolling through a bunch of stuff.

[36:45] Cause I like,

[36:46] is this a hard question?

[36:47] Cause most of it's already been done

[36:49] or something I have no interest in at all.

[36:50] And I,

[36:51] I just.

[36:52] Well, you were talking about that

[36:53] Cowboys and Moomesa revival that you wanted, right?

[36:55] Snorks.

[36:56] There's 13 episodes of a cartoon.

[36:57] Have you heard of this called Laser Tag Academy?

[37:00] I don't know what that is,

[37:04] but maybe that's pretty much in the title, Dan.

[37:07] Yeah.

[37:08] I don't know what else to do with it.

[37:08] I'm surprised they haven't redone,

[37:09] or maybe they have,

[37:10] like, I feel like Strawberry Shortcake

[37:12] and like Rainbow Bright,

[37:13] I was hard into.

[37:14] Have they not redone those?

[37:15] They haven't.

[37:16] What's weird about the,

[37:17] I don't remember about Rainbow Bright,

[37:18] but Strawberry Shortcake was one of the first ones

[37:20] that I can think of where it was not like,

[37:23] oh, we have this character

[37:24] and we're creating her for a show.

[37:25] It was like,

[37:26] this is a character who shows up on greeting cards

[37:28] and people love her.

[37:29] So we've got to find some way

[37:30] to do a television show around her.

[37:32] They did a good job.

[37:33] I loved that.

[37:34] Which is now, I think,

[37:35] pretty much like half of what is being made

[37:38] into movies these days,

[37:39] where it's like,

[37:40] this character who appears on the Cheetos Cheetah.

[37:44] How do we create his world?

[37:45] What's his story?

[37:46] What if they made a live action Kathy movie?

[37:50] To be honest,

[37:51] they should have done a live action Kathy sitcom

[37:53] at some point.

[37:54] I wonder if they ever tried.

[37:55] That would have been a great idea.

[37:56] Guys, have you heard of this?

[37:57] Something called Rude Dog and the Dweeds.

[38:01] No, not familiar.

[38:03] Sounds like your podcast.

[38:04] 1989.

[38:09] Ladies know what she's talking about.

[38:11] Saturday morning cartoon,

[38:13] developed by Sun Sportswear,

[38:15] based on the Rude Dog character,

[38:17] created by Brad McMahon,

[38:18] focused, featured in clothes advertising.

[38:21] You know what?

[38:22] I think I might remember the bumpers that they did it,

[38:24] like the commercial bumpers that came in that show.

[38:27] Yeah.

[38:27] But I don't remember the show itself.

[38:29] I'd like a TV show based on the Big Johnson T-shirt franchise.

[38:32] Yeah.

[38:33] We've talked about that.

[38:34] It would have to be on late night TV though,

[38:36] you know, not for little kids.

[38:38] Okay.

[38:39] I think we cracked it.

[38:41] Oh yeah, I remember Rude Dog.

[38:42] I'm looking at it now.

[38:43] I remember this character.

[38:43] Yeah.

[38:45] Let's get one last turn of the roulette wheel here.

[38:50] No, we did that one already.

[38:52] That one too.

[38:53] I think the answer we came up with was,

[38:54] please don't do anymore.

[38:56] Yeah, don't do it.

[38:56] Stop it.

[38:59] As someone who's being directly pandered to,

[39:01] I'm tired of it.

[39:02] As someone who's working currently

[39:04] on a Ghostbusters project,

[39:05] I would say, after mine, let's stop.

[39:07] Let's do this project and then no more.

[39:08] Elliot's is great, but others are bad.

[39:11] Yeah, exactly.

[39:12] So last question,

[39:13] horror movies you could survive the longest in?

[39:17] And I'm neck-to-knee New York.

[39:21] Oh, Stuart, we're all surviving in that one.

[39:22] That's the horror movie we all live in.

[39:24] I feel like there's a whole genre of movies

[39:27] where it's just like,

[39:27] you just don't have to do the thing

[39:29] that triggers stuff that I would survive.

[39:32] Very much so.

[39:33] I feel like if you don't make a wish,

[39:34] then I feel like the wish master

[39:36] is not really interested in going after you.

[39:38] He's pretty persuasive, too.

[39:39] I guess so.

[39:41] I mean, I think I could be persuaded to make a wish

[39:43] because there I can see the more direct,

[39:45] but if they're like, play this creepy game,

[39:47] I'm like, no, thank you.

[39:49] I think I could do it.

[39:50] I'm built different.

[39:51] I don't want to.

[39:53] Yeah, like the substance,

[39:54] I would just simply maintain the balance.

[39:56] It's that easy.

[40:00] I would just not watch that show all the time.

[40:02] It does that show did not seem that it not that engrossing to me.

[40:06] Not that intriguing.

[40:07] Freddy Krueger.

[40:08] He's trapped in my dreams, bitch.

[40:10] No, that's what I think that you would not.

[40:13] I think that's pretty conclusively a thing that's hard to avoid getting killed by.

[40:18] Mara climbs out of that TV.

[40:20] I'm beating her ass down.

[40:21] Okay, that's happening now.

[40:23] Now you're getting closer and closer to the Wahlberg.

[40:26] If I was on the plane 9-11 when it happens type of personality.

[40:29] Yeah, see a horror movie that I could survive.

[40:33] Yeah, I think anything where you have to make it where like I'm not.

[40:36] I don't feel the need to solve the lament configuration.

[40:38] You know that kind of stuff like I don't.

[40:39] I don't.

[40:39] I think there's a lot of like.

[40:41] I totally wouldn't die.

[40:42] I would be ripped to shreds.

[40:44] Yeah, the but anything where it's a.

[40:48] I think it's something like Freddy Krueger where he's just coming after you and you don't

[40:51] have a choice in the matter or as opposed to.

[40:54] Oh, you did this thing and now you've got to be punished.

[40:56] I don't do that much.

[40:57] Yeah, like I get smoked by and it follows like it would just turn me into a little pretzel.

[41:04] See, that's the thing.

[41:05] That's the thing where it follows.

[41:06] I'm pretty safe from.

[41:07] I think I think it's unlikely that I'm going to find myself having sex with somebody whose

[41:11] sexual history I'm not aware of and don't know they're being followed by an it.

[41:14] You know, so now an if follows, that's a bigger problem.

[41:18] I have two children and two children in my house.

[41:20] If either of them has an if and that if wants to kill me, I don't think there's anything

[41:23] I can do about Candyman.

[41:24] You guys think Candyman will get you?

[41:25] Oh, yeah, that's another one.

[41:26] I would not.

[41:27] You know, there's no point and there's a point in which I'd be like, yeah, I got to keep

[41:31] saying Candyman.

[41:31] Let me keep saying this.

[41:32] Yeah, when anything where the monster gets you because you have been dared into doing

[41:37] a thing, it's like, yeah, I think I just probably not going to know.

[41:40] I think those are the worst ones for me.

[41:42] I feel like I'm dead immediately.

[41:44] But I feel like I feel like in like like a zombie movie, I'd be super good at that.

[41:49] Right.

[41:49] I'm just like really like I'm kind of a survivalist type.

[41:53] You know, I'm just.

[41:55] That's what I always thought about you.

[41:56] You love horror.

[41:57] We always have you on in Shocktober.

[41:59] What do you is there one that you think you'd be good at?

[42:04] I mean, and yeah, I feel like I would be into I feel like I wouldn't be scared.

[42:08] I'd just be happy to be there.

[42:10] So, you know, anything with ghosts.

[42:12] Yeah, yeah.

[42:13] Yeah.

[42:13] If you were if you were in Nicole Kidman's character and the others, you'd be like, this

[42:17] is great.

[42:18] This is wonderful.

[42:18] We have ghosts in the house.

[42:19] Well, I don't want to spoil the.

[42:22] I haven't finished it yet.

[42:23] I'm about to go finish it.

[42:24] I think 10 minutes left in the movie.

[42:25] Let me go see that.

[42:26] Oh, oh, wait a minute.

[42:29] I feel like I feel like child's play.

[42:31] I think just like Chuckie and I would get along like I think.

[42:35] I think he would just want to hang out with you.

[42:37] Yeah, sure.

[42:37] Yeah.

[42:38] He'd kill you eventually, but you'd have a good time along the way.

[42:40] Yes, I'm fine with that.

[42:42] I think in like a substance type situation, I would not I would not thrive.

[42:47] I would definitely push the limits of that.

[42:49] I would be hot as long as I could.

[42:52] Well, we did it.

[42:54] We survived.

[42:55] We survived the gamblers answer some questions.

[42:59] Yeah, that's what we did.

[43:00] We did.

[43:01] Do that.

[43:01] Thanks for answering that question.

[43:05] And thank you to Hallie for sticking around and being on.

[43:08] Best in the biz.

[43:09] Yet another episode of this dumb show.

[43:12] Check out.

[43:13] Thank you.

[43:14] So sick.

[43:15] Check it out.

[43:16] What's it called, Dan?

[43:18] That hurt my feelings.

[43:19] That hurts my feelings.

[43:20] I'm sorry.

[43:21] I've got the S.

[43:22] I'm sorry.

[43:22] OK, I guess I know the subject of next week's essay.

[43:27] My friend forgot the name of my sub stack and it hurt my feelings.

[43:32] Thank you, Alex Smith.

[43:34] He produces the show.

[43:36] You can find him under the name HowlDotty all over the internet.

[43:39] You can find him on the run from the allegations under the name HowlDotty.

[43:43] Just kidding.

[43:44] Yeah.

[43:45] Yeah.

[43:46] Yeah.

[43:47] Yeah.

[43:48] Yeah.

[43:49] And thank you to Maximum Fun.

[43:51] Go to MaximumFun.org to check out other great shows on the Max Fun Network.

[43:57] And thank you, last of all, but most of all, to you, the listener.

[44:03] Thank you for keeping us doing this thing.

[44:07] Without you, there wouldn't be much point.

[44:09] So we appreciate it.

[44:12] But for the Flophouse, which is the titular thing that I was talking about, I've been Dan McGloin.

[44:17] Dan, is there a producer sitting behind me just going, stretch, stretch, extend.

[44:23] The next podcast is running late.

[44:25] Just keep it going.

[44:26] Now who's stretching?

[44:27] And of course, look who's stretching now.

[44:30] Oh, man.

[44:31] It's Mr. Fantastic.

[44:32] Yeah.

[44:33] In the upcoming movie, Fantastic Four, First Pants.

[44:35] Seem like an unnecessary sequel, but yeah.

[44:37] First Steps.

[44:38] First Steps.

[44:39] So this is about when they were babies and they were going to walk.

[44:42] Exactly.

[44:43] Maybe it's Galactus who's taking his first steps on Earth.

[44:46] Who knows?

[44:46] Anyway, I've been Dan McGloin.

[44:48] Yeah, we haven't watched the movie yet.

[44:49] It's not out yet.

[44:50] My name is Stuart Lenton Wellington, and I'm here to say I love podcasting every way.

[45:00] I'm Elliot Charles Kaelin.

[45:02] I feel like now the bit is just talking as long as possible,

[45:05] but I'm instead going to throw it to our guest for today.

[45:08] Hallie Susan Haglund.

[45:11] Oh, I didn't know that.

[45:12] You didn't know that?

[45:13] No.

[45:14] They used to call me Hallie Sue when I was little.

[45:17] Aww.

[45:19] Yep.

[45:20] So.

[45:20] Don't put that in your fucking place in Spokane, America.

[45:26] Bye.

[45:26] I guess deal with that.

[45:34] Maximum fun.

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FH Mini 128 - Listener Roulette, with Hallie Haglund

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