FH Mini 50 - Tuboy Talkin' Tube for Teens to 2 Two Dudes Tonight, That’s Right, with Alex Smith

[0:00] Okay, you guys are ready to fucking dance?

[0:03] Dance.

[0:05] So you think you can dance?

[0:07] Dan McCoy, that is.

[0:10] This is going to wait.

[0:11] Fuck.

[0:11] My notes are all fucked up.

[0:12] Give me a second.

[0:14] Ooh, this is going to be good.

[0:15] Okay.

[0:17] I'm not going to fuck this one up at all.

[0:19] And

[0:25] Hey, it's me, Stuart Wellington of the Flop House, and I'm here

[0:28] to present a Flop House mini presented by Minnie's Bar.

[0:32] That's right.

[0:33] Uh, but before we get into the meat of this delicious podcast

[0:36] sandwich, uh, Elliot, I think you have a couple of words for our listeners.

[0:41] I do have a couple of words for our listeners.

[0:43] I've got four words.

[0:44] In fact, masters of the universe.

[0:47] March 19th in only a couple of weeks, we are going to be doing

[0:50] our newest online live show.

[0:52] The Flop House is coming at you live on your own computer.

[0:56] You don't have to get dressed.

[0:57] You don't even have to bathe.

[0:58] You don't have to shave.

[0:59] You don't have to clip those nails, put on makeup.

[1:01] Any of the things you normally do when you go outside, put on your wig, put

[1:05] on your hook, any of the things you normally do, you don't have to worry

[1:07] about it because you can sit at home on your own computer and watch us talk

[1:10] about the masters of the universe movie.

[1:12] This is the 1987 Dolph Lundgren, Courtney Cox, Billy Barty,

[1:17] Frank Langella classic question mark.

[1:19] I haven't watched it since I was a kid when I saw it in the theaters and I

[1:22] cannot wait to see it again and see if it holds up or even if I even care

[1:26] about He-Man anymore, the way I loved him so much when I was a kid.

[1:30] That's Saturday, March 19th on your computer screen.

[1:32] It's 9 p.m.

[1:33] Eastern, 6 p.m.

[1:34] Pacific.

[1:35] How do you get tickets to this?

[1:36] It's easy peasy.

[1:37] Let me tell you, go to theflophouse.simpletix.com.

[1:41] Again, that's theflophouse.simpletix.com.

[1:44] The tickets cost you only $10.

[1:46] And what do you get for that Alexander Hamilton?

[1:48] I'll tell you, you get access to this all new show, a show we have never done

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[1:57] we will never do again.

[1:58] We're going to be taking Q and A's from the audience.

[1:59] There'll probably be some polls.

[2:00] We'll have some other kind of comedy bit that we have yet to figure out what it is.

[2:03] Guess what?

[2:04] You can't make it that night.

[2:05] You can't make it that time.

[2:06] That is okay.

[2:07] Get your ticket.

[2:08] It gives you one week of access to a recording of the live show.

[2:11] You can still watch it.

[2:12] You can still enjoy it.

[2:13] Watch it as many times as you want for one week.

[2:15] Just put it on forever, like an art installation, like the clock and just

[2:18] with that 24 hour vertigo, just keep it going.

[2:21] Anyway, that's the Flophouse live show.

[2:22] I'm super excited about it.

[2:24] I cannot wait to talk He-Man with these two He-Men, Stuart and Dan, and

[2:28] maybe we'll have a good time.

[2:30] In fact, I think we know we'll have a good time.

[2:31] So go to theflophouse.simpletics.com.

[2:34] Tickets are going fast.

[2:35] Now it's the internet.

[2:36] There's infinite space, but I'm still going to act like there's limited supplies.

[2:40] So it's all about digital false scarcity, everybody.

[2:43] Crypto.

[2:43] Come on, let's go.

[2:45] Theflophouse.simpletics.com.

[2:47] That's Saturday, March 19th.

[2:48] And then a recording for one week afterwards.

[2:50] Come see the show.

[2:51] It's going to be really fun.

[2:52] Stuart, back to you.

[2:53] Okay.

[2:54] So, as I mentioned before, this is a Flophouse mini brought to you by

[2:56] Minnie's Bar and, uh, here at the Flophouse, we normally watch a bad movie.

[3:00] Now, what kind of money you got to give us for this sponsorship, Stuart?

[3:03] This is a Minnie's Bar sponsorship.

[3:06] I, uh, well, I'll give you a drink or two, if, uh, no, that's true.

[3:12] Over the years, you've given me plenty of drink payments.

[3:14] I remember you saying that 2020 and 2021 were the two best years in the history of

[3:17] your barkeeping profession.

[3:18] That's true.

[3:20] Yeah.

[3:21] I mean, that's a thing.

[3:22] Like, I mean, just in general, 2020 and 2021 and now 2022, nothing bad is happening.

[3:28] It's only, it's only going up, only good stuff.

[3:32] Uh, yeah.

[3:33] It's like, it's like, oops, all good stuff.

[3:35] Uh, so yeah, that's why, uh, that's why Minnie's is, you know, you get a

[3:39] little taste here, uh, dip in its beak.

[3:41] So, um, normally what we do here on the Flophouse is we interrogate Stuart

[3:45] for promoting his businesses.

[3:48] That's what we do.

[3:49] That's what the podcast is about.

[3:51] We normally watch a bad movie and then we talk about it, but you know what?

[3:54] This is a Flophouse Minnie brought to you by Minnie's bar.

[3:56] So we can do whatever the fuck we want.

[3:59] March 19th, live show March 19th.

[4:01] I just want to, I want to, I want to broadcast, I want to advertise something

[4:04] we're all going to get a taste of.

[4:07] Uh, yeah.

[4:07] Seeking parody.

[4:08] Uh, it's going to be tough.

[4:10] Uh, so.

[4:11] Maniac of New York, the Bronx is, Bronx is brewing on comic book shelves now.

[4:14] Um, so the, I mean, if you just want to send me cash, I don't have anything to

[4:19] promote, but, um, uh, sorry, go ahead.

[4:23] I'm sure.

[4:24] So, uh, I don't know, just to pull back the curtain a little bit, open up, uh,

[4:28] open up the robe, if you will.

[4:30] Um, the, my, my DMS are flooded.

[4:34] Okay.

[4:35] On various platforms with people requesting, uh, the different topics for the

[4:40] minis and the one that I get the most, of course, is what we're going to be doing

[4:44] tonight.

[4:44] And that's, uh, exactly what we're doing.

[4:47] We are doing two boy talking tube to two dudes tonight.

[4:52] Classic, classic mini.

[4:54] Now two boy talking tube to two dudes tonight.

[4:57] Is when, uh, I, Stuart, AKA two boy is going to talk about two that's television,

[5:04] uh, to two dudes that's Dan and Elliot, uh, tonight, which is when we're recording

[5:09] it.

[5:10] Because it's not definitely not wrong.

[5:12] Uh, Stuart, can you, can you clear up, is it two boy or is it tube boy?

[5:17] Cause you were tube man in the film.

[5:19] Psycho gore man.

[5:20] Yeah.

[5:21] That, that makes it, it's understandable that, uh, there's a certain amount of

[5:24] confusion.

[5:25] Uh, I, that's, I mean, that's the thing I'm trying to like, make it as difficult

[5:29] as possible for people to track me down or understand me.

[5:33] Uh, I mean, it makes sense then why your deaf leopard podcast had the hardest to

[5:36] spell title of any podcast in the history of recording.

[5:39] Cool.

[5:40] Another, another dig at me today.

[5:42] I don't know what's going on.

[5:43] Uh, okay.

[5:44] No, that's fine.

[5:45] Let's uh, so normally what we do is we talk about a bunch of different TV shows

[5:49] or we talk about like, uh, TV awards, but tonight we're going to do a hyper focus.

[5:55] Okay.

[5:55] We're just going to focus on a single television show.

[5:58] And I want to specifically, I want to talk about a show that I think is kind of of

[6:01] the moment.

[6:02] Um, it's, uh, people are talking about it on Twitter quite a bit.

[6:06] Um, it, and it's like, it's kind of gritty and it, we're dealing with teenagers who

[6:13] are kind of navigating the difficult world of like, filled with like sex and drugs

[6:18] and complicated relationships.

[6:20] Uh, so tonight we're going to be talking about euphoria.

[6:24] We're going to be talking about euphoria, the 15th episode of the second season of

[6:29] Beverly Hills, 90210.

[6:32] Uh, the episode is, we're in luck.

[6:34] We're in luck.

[6:35] There it is.

[6:36] There's the other shoe I was waiting for.

[6:39] We're in luck in that I've seen neither that nor the TV show euphoria.

[6:43] So I'm equally ignorant of whatever we're discussing.

[6:46] Um, and to help me with this, I brought in, uh, a expert of Beverly Hills, 90210

[6:53] Alexander Smith, our producer.

[6:55] Hey, Alex, thanks for joining us.

[7:00] He just changed his background to the cast.

[7:02] It's great to be here guys.

[7:04] Uh, what, what a pleasure.

[7:05] Uh, how's it going?

[7:08] Wow.

[7:09] I was expecting a full speech.

[7:10] Coming in hot.

[7:11] Alex is coming in hot.

[7:12] Bringing the energy into the changing of backgrounds, I think.

[7:17] So just to give on the subject of backgrounds, just to give you kind of an

[7:22] idea, the, the name euphoria in this case is, uh, is spelled U the number four E A.

[7:31] Okay.

[7:31] And that is a reference to the, uh, that is the drug, uh, the name of the drug

[7:37] that is basically ecstasy in the Beverly Hills, 90210 universe.

[7:42] And it serves as both the title of the episode and it serves

[7:45] as a pretty important plot point.

[7:46] Now I would like to argue that that would be pronounced you for E and not euphoria.

[7:57] And that's just, I, that's the art.

[7:58] It's a small distinction, but it's important.

[8:00] Yeah.

[8:01] You for EA like the, the company for electronic arts.

[8:06] Yeah.

[8:07] That's the argument Dan's having with the dealer and ends up not scoring.

[8:12] Yeah.

[8:12] I'm like four, four has all of it in there.

[8:15] The, the, the number four, you just say that while Dan's plug rolls his eyes.

[8:20] Well, actually, Dan, it is funny that you say that.

[8:22] Cause the dealer, the, the euphoria dealer in the episode is wearing a shirt that

[8:29] just has a number four on it.

[8:31] And that's how, you know, that you're talking to a euphoria dealer is

[8:34] the giant four on their shirt.

[8:36] Yeah.

[8:37] So like, usually drug dealers do have their branded shirts that

[8:41] they wear to announce to the world.

[8:43] This is my, my job and what I do.

[8:47] Or a Trilby with a bright orange band.

[8:49] That's the other way, you know, you're talking to a drug dealer.

[8:52] I guess it works.

[8:53] I guess I take back my objection in this.

[8:56] Okay.

[8:56] I'll allow, I'll allow it.

[8:58] In the star Wars universe, you know, you're talking to a drug dealer

[9:00] cause he has a name like sleaze bag.

[9:01] Oh, and he's asking you if you want any death sticks.

[9:04] Yeah.

[9:05] Yeah.

[9:05] If the name wasn't enough, he's specifically doing his job in front of you.

[9:10] The, uh, and I would imagine in the Beverly hills, now to a no universe.

[9:15] Uh, if we were to fast forward to modern times where people use cash app and Venmo.

[9:19] The symbol would be some kind of four to their drug dealer to indicate that, uh,

[9:24] they're cash shopping them for you for you.

[9:26] Right.

[9:26] Alex.

[9:28] For the, for the drug dealers taxes, which, so they itemize which drugs the money

[9:31] was similar to doing like, uh, a skier or like a snowflake or something.

[9:36] Okay.

[9:37] You like it like an emoji or something.

[9:39] I, yeah, I was thinking like a dollar sign followed by a four, but

[9:43] that, that just becomes $4.

[9:46] So now we're at whatever the price is.

[9:50] You have to give it to them in $4 increments.

[9:52] That's that's how they know what, which doesn't work out.

[9:54] Well, depending on inflation, I guess.

[9:56] Because at the time, back in 1990, a single hit of you.

[10:00] it would cost you $25.

[10:02] Revisiting that episode, I was very surprised.

[10:04] That seems expensive for that time.

[10:07] These are kids from Beverly Hills.

[10:08] Yeah, yeah, this is a rich neighborhood.

[10:09] I mean, I was watching this with Charlene,

[10:11] who also inspired this episode, by the way,

[10:14] because she was the one who was like,

[10:16] hey, isn't that the name of the drug from 90210?

[10:19] And I'm like, no, it's this thing

[10:20] that I keep getting Twitter memes about.

[10:22] But yeah, in her experience at the time,

[10:26] that would be the cost of one ecstasy.

[10:30] One dose of ecstasy.

[10:31] One ecstasy, whatever.

[10:32] I'll take one ecstasy, sir.

[10:35] Yes, bag it, I'll take a paper bag, thank you.

[10:37] I mean, but I understand why you think

[10:39] it would be expensive, but it's an expensive neighborhood.

[10:41] As this title tells us, the monthly rent

[10:43] in Beverly Hills was $9,210,

[10:46] which is a lot of money for monthly rent,

[10:48] especially in 1990, yeah.

[10:50] And you knew you were talking to your landlord

[10:52] if they had 90210 on their shirt.

[10:55] Yes, exactly, all the landlords had to.

[10:57] People forget that back then,

[10:59] before the end of the Reagan-Bush revolution,

[11:03] it was legal law that everyone had to wear a shirt

[11:06] that denoted what their occupation was,

[11:07] which made it very easy to round up drug dealers.

[11:09] It's why the war on drugs was won,

[11:11] and we no longer have to fight it anymore.

[11:16] Before we get into the meat of this episode,

[11:20] Alex, can you explain a little bit about your bona fides?

[11:23] The boot.

[11:25] As a Beverly Hills 90210 expert.

[11:30] As an expert, my bona fides.

[11:33] Well, I will say I was a fan of this show

[11:37] from the first episode, I watched it the entire run,

[11:41] and it was a long run, it's a 10-season show,

[11:43] and I've watched it all the way through

[11:46] many, many times since then.

[11:49] I feel like back in college, you were still

[11:51] catching it on the release day,

[11:53] like you were watching it.

[11:55] Because you couldn't catch it on Hulu.

[11:57] It was my regular Wednesday watch,

[12:01] even in college when they had moved on to,

[12:04] I don't know, be boring adults with jobs and stuff,

[12:08] I still watched it pretty religiously throughout that time.

[12:13] Did any of them ever graduate to being a Melrose Place?

[12:17] Was it ever like when a new mutant becomes

[12:20] a member of the X-Men, they're like,

[12:21] you did it, you graduated, you're going from

[12:23] Beverly Hills 9-2-1-0 to Melrose Place,

[12:24] now you live in a steamy apartment complex in L.A.

[12:28] There is a crossover, they introduced Melrose Place by,

[12:34] they introduced, the character that takes you

[12:36] to Melrose Place initially was a guest star on 9-2-1-0,

[12:40] and David Kelly.

[12:41] During the episode of Beverly Hills 9-2-1-0,

[12:42] he went to the camera, he went,

[12:43] psst, psst, come with me, I'm gonna take you somewhere,

[12:46] and the camera followed him over to Melrose Place.

[12:48] That would have been a great transition,

[12:49] they absolutely should have done that.

[12:53] Whisper to the camera, and drag you down the street

[12:56] to Melrose Place.

[12:57] Oh, that would have been so good.

[12:59] I don't believe they did anything like that.

[13:02] This is gonna be a real tangent,

[13:03] I wanted to go off on a slight mispronunciation

[13:05] that Stuart had earlier, where he was saying Hulu,

[13:08] but for a moment he said Hulo,

[13:10] and made me think of Jacques Tetty guest starring

[13:13] on an episode of Beverly Hills 9-2-1-0.

[13:16] And Stan, what would that be like?

[13:17] Give us a taste of what that would be like.

[13:19] Well, it's mostly, you know,

[13:24] Monsieur Hulo is pretty, you know, dialogue-free,

[13:29] so just imagine that I'm doing a bunch of sort of

[13:32] intricate slapstick that's more whimsical than it is funny.

[13:38] Like, you're never gonna really laugh at me,

[13:40] but you're gonna say, oh, I see,

[13:43] that was kind of interesting.

[13:45] Alex, who's your favorite 9-2-1-0?

[13:50] Which one is your top?

[13:52] I was a Brandon guy, still am.

[13:55] Brandon.

[13:56] Still really am a Brandon guy.

[13:56] Which one is he, was that?

[13:57] That's Jason Priestley.

[13:59] Oh, okay.

[14:00] Yeah, Brandon Walsh.

[14:00] Yeah, and I feel like he is the emotional

[14:04] and moral core of the show, I think.

[14:08] That's why this is such an emotional episode,

[14:10] because he's, you know, he goes through some tough times.

[14:14] He changes dramatically from a guy who's not high

[14:18] into a guy who's high.

[14:19] Very high, yeah.

[14:20] And it ruins his relationship with everyone in his life.

[14:26] So would you classify this as a very special episode,

[14:29] or is this an episode with a message for our nation?

[14:31] Well, that was the thing, like,

[14:32] I feel like at this time, a lot of 9-2-1-0 episodes

[14:36] were kind of like ripped from the headlines,

[14:38] very special episodes.

[14:39] Yes, season one of 9-2-1-0,

[14:41] it was an issue show specifically,

[14:43] like every episode has a, deals with a, you know,

[14:47] some kind of PSA topic or team issue.

[14:51] Some of our teens to talk to their parents

[14:53] about over breakfast for like five hours

[14:56] is what it seems like they do.

[14:59] I mean, many homes do have water coolers.

[15:01] We have a Culligan water cooler when I was growing up.

[15:03] Yeah.

[15:04] I just outed myself as a Richie, I guess.

[15:07] No, no, for a while we had a water cooler too,

[15:11] like Eureka water.

[15:13] I don't want to throw any shade at my hometown,

[15:15] but Eureka water tasted gross.

[15:19] We got a lot of-

[15:20] Describe that taste.

[15:21] Give me, tell me what notes you were detecting.

[15:24] I would say sulfurous.

[15:25] Yeah, for the notes, yeah.

[15:29] Okay.

[15:30] Like a liquid fart.

[15:31] Let's get into the meat of this episode.

[15:32] I'm trying to, this is complicated.

[15:34] I think maybe Elliot has the talent to get us there,

[15:36] but there's some kind of connection between euphoria,

[15:40] where the four is like,

[15:43] you're being brought to a euphoric state

[15:45] and Eureka water, where the water reeks.

[15:49] I don't know.

[15:50] I don't have the skills.

[15:52] If it's sulfurous, I would call it euphardia.

[15:54] Euphardia.

[15:55] There we go.

[15:58] That's great.

[15:59] So the episode begins.

[16:00] We're introduced to Brandon Walsh

[16:03] and his girlfriend, Emily.

[16:04] They're dating.

[16:05] They're ready to make the next step

[16:07] and move into each other's lockers.

[16:10] So they of course decide to go to-

[16:11] Really weird.

[16:12] Wait, is that a thing that teenagers do?

[16:15] Because when I was in high school,

[16:16] my locker was assigned to me by the school.

[16:18] Like I didn't get to, I didn't have to find one and then-

[16:20] But that's the thing.

[16:20] Pay rent on it.

[16:21] Well, they have their own lockers,

[16:24] but they're going to make space,

[16:25] like make a shelf for the other person in their locker.

[16:28] I mean, well, okay, hold on.

[16:31] This makes sense.

[16:32] Dan, this is a real thing that kids do.

[16:34] This makes sense in real life.

[16:37] You know, like adult life, not real life.

[16:39] I mean, teen's life is real.

[16:41] I'm sorry.

[16:41] Adult life.

[16:43] It makes sense to, you know,

[16:44] clear out a shelf or a drawer or whatever

[16:48] and be like, I'm going to have a change of clothes over here

[16:51] for like when we spend the night

[16:54] because we live X amount of time away.

[16:58] Right.

[16:59] I don't, like, this is just sheer laziness.

[17:01] You're like, can I leave my math textbook in here

[17:05] so I don't have to walk down the hall?

[17:07] It's just, you're like a promise ring, I think.

[17:09] Yeah, there's two critical pieces of information here,

[17:12] I think, that are important.

[17:13] One is in the universe of the show,

[17:16] Brandon is a very eager student.

[17:18] He's, you know, he's like a, he's very, very,

[17:21] he's a very good student, a very enthusiastic student.

[17:23] And the idea is that he had complained at some time

[17:26] to Emily about not having enough room in his locker

[17:29] for all of his books because he's so smart or whatever.

[17:33] And then the other thing that you got to remember

[17:35] about 90210 in general is that it is a show

[17:38] about 16-year-olds played by 30-year-olds

[17:40] written by 50-year-olds who make very little effort

[17:45] to actually figure out, to actually get into the mind

[17:48] of a teenager.

[17:49] Like they, you get the feeling throughout this whole show

[17:52] that if they could just take the parents out

[17:54] and just put these people in an apartment

[17:56] and give them a day job, they would do it immediately.

[17:59] So this is clearly just them trying to figure out a way

[18:02] to be like, well, what's a good analog

[18:05] to them moving in together?

[18:08] Oh, well, they have a locker at school.

[18:10] So we'll do that.

[18:11] I want to tell a story about grownups

[18:13] because I'm a grownup, but I'm stuck

[18:15] on this stupid show about teens.

[18:17] So how do I make my grownup story be about teens?

[18:21] So they're trying to make the next step.

[18:23] So they decide to go on a date to a cool,

[18:26] like floating all ages party where you, you know,

[18:31] you find the location from a special person and it'll,

[18:34] then you'll go to the secret party.

[18:36] And of course the rest of the gang.

[18:37] Like an elf?

[18:38] Yeah, kind of like that.

[18:39] Like that kind of special person.

[18:40] And the rest of the gang finds out,

[18:44] and though they have their reservations about Emily,

[18:45] because she's not a core cast member, right, Alex?

[18:47] She's just kind of like, she's the bad girl

[18:49] who's Brandon's new girlfriend.

[18:51] At this point, I think she had been in eight episodes,

[18:54] but she has, but she and Brandon have become very serious.

[18:58] Well, as we now know, because of the locker thing.

[19:00] Yeah, yeah.

[19:02] So the rest of the gang find out about,

[19:04] I wish they had taken it even further.

[19:05] And they were like, I'm ready to go to the next step.

[19:07] Can you keep a little space in your pocket for my change?

[19:10] So in case I need it and I'm far from my pocket,

[19:13] I can get it from your pocket.

[19:14] Yeah, this is a big step.

[19:15] Now, why would you be far from your pocket?

[19:17] Now, I don't understand.

[19:18] It's a metaphor, Dan,

[19:19] but maybe it's in a different pair of pants.

[19:21] You're in your gym clothes, maybe, I don't know.

[19:23] Your jean pocket is closer to my heart

[19:26] than my jean pocket is to my hand,

[19:28] is the kind of romantic thing you can say

[19:31] to your teenage girl.

[19:32] Well, you're taller than I am,

[19:33] so I would have to reach down less low.

[19:36] Well, and in a cis relationship,

[19:38] I don't think we even need to start talking

[19:40] about the tyranny of pockets,

[19:41] about how women's clothes often don't feature

[19:44] enough pockets.

[19:44] It's true.

[19:45] That's true.

[19:46] Or if you do have pockets, the pockets are decorative.

[19:47] They're not actually functional.

[19:49] Okay, so there's an interesting element about this party

[19:54] is that the way that you get to it

[19:57] is you have to take an egg.

[20:00] to a corner store, a specific corner store,

[20:03] and you give the egg to the person running the store,

[20:08] and he will give you the directions.

[20:10] I did see this episode.

[20:11] I did see this episode,

[20:12] because I remember them with the egg,

[20:14] offering it to strangers,

[20:15] thinking that that's how they get the directions

[20:17] to the party.

[20:18] Oh, I did see this.

[20:18] Yeah, Steve and Andrea famously,

[20:21] I think this scene is one of the more iconic,

[20:23] early scenes from 90210,

[20:26] where Steve and Andrea go to the wrong store,

[20:29] and Steve is trying to,

[20:31] in a very, very great comic performance from Ian Ziering,

[20:35] he is trying to exchange an egg

[20:37] with a lady who has no idea what he's talking about,

[20:40] and threatens to call the cops on them,

[20:42] and they have to run out.

[20:43] So that's a scene a lot of people, I think, have seen.

[20:46] But before we get to that,

[20:48] our characters have to get ready for the party.

[20:50] It's a Friday night.

[20:50] They all decide to lie to their parents,

[20:53] which is tough, because they are dressed to go out.

[20:56] They're all wearing all black,

[20:58] Shannon Doherty's wearing a Canadian tuxedo

[21:00] that is decidedly not black,

[21:02] but everybody else is wearing, I guess, party clothes.

[21:05] And Andrea, Andrea, Andrea, is of course-

[21:09] Andrea.

[21:10] Is dressed like Elaine Bennis, like she is always dressed.

[21:13] And Elaine Bennis was dressed like a woman

[21:17] from the 1940s most of the time, so.

[21:20] Well, and they do the thing where,

[21:22] with Andrea, the reason she wants to go

[21:26] to this underground rave party,

[21:28] because she's such an adult,

[21:30] she's so much more of an adult than her friends.

[21:33] Because the actress is 12 years older

[21:35] than Tori Spelling, yeah.

[21:37] I have to admit, when I saw the show as a kid,

[21:40] I thought she was supposed to be a grownup

[21:41] for a lot of the run.

[21:42] Yeah, she seemed-

[21:43] I thought that, and I won't go as weird,

[21:44] she was hanging out with these high school students,

[21:46] who also seemed like grownups.

[21:46] She seemed like a teacher or something, yeah.

[21:47] Yeah, I thought she was a teacher.

[21:49] See, and the weird thing is,

[21:50] in the rare times I saw this show,

[21:52] like, she was the one that I had a crush on.

[21:55] Doesn't surprise me.

[21:57] Yeah.

[21:58] Andrea's great, but the way she convinces herself

[22:01] that she needs to go to this rave

[22:03] is because there might be a breaking story.

[22:05] Because she runs the school newspaper.

[22:09] Makes sense to me.

[22:10] And she, oh my God, it's, well, Stewart, continue.

[22:14] So they lie to their various parents,

[22:16] except for Kelly, who tells her hot, well-dressed mom

[22:20] that she tells her the truth.

[22:22] Wow.

[22:23] I mean, her mom-

[22:24] Wow, okay.

[22:25] Her mom can get it, dude.

[22:26] You said it as if it's a surprise

[22:27] that her mom would be hot and well-dressed.

[22:29] Yeah.

[22:30] Yeah, these key plot points to that.

[22:32] She's got this real, like, business bitch attitude.

[22:34] I'm all about it.

[22:34] Yeah, yeah.

[22:36] So-

[22:37] Yeah, Kelly's mom is Stewart's type, for sure.

[22:39] Yeah, yeah.

[22:40] I'm like, oh, why isn't she stepping on my neck?

[22:43] So-

[22:44] Okay.

[22:45] Okay.

[22:46] I'm like, I demand this to happen.

[22:51] So Kelly tells her mom-

[22:51] She's a character on a TV show, for one thing.

[22:53] But anyway, continue.

[22:55] So Kelly has a relationship with her mom

[22:58] that she believes she can tell her mom anything,

[23:00] and as long as she's being honest,

[23:02] her mom will let her do it.

[23:03] Not so much in this instance,

[23:05] because her mom knows that she is potentially

[23:07] going to an illegal underground rave party.

[23:10] So she tells her no.

[23:11] So Kelly's like, okay, I guess I won't go,

[23:13] and puts a bathrobe on over her dress

[23:16] and sits in bed until the moment her mom leaves,

[23:18] and then immediately takes that bathrobe off

[23:21] and sneaks out.

[23:22] Real quick, as an aside,

[23:24] Kelly's mom had a coke addiction in season one

[23:26] that Kelly helped her get through.

[23:28] So they're very tight-knit.

[23:30] They have a very tight-knit relationship at this point.

[23:32] So that's why Kelly thinks she can do

[23:34] basically whatever she wants.

[23:36] But Kelly's mom has also been to a lot of

[23:39] these types of parties and says,

[23:40] no, there's drugs at those parties.

[23:42] I don't want you going.

[23:42] Yeah, and she's got that kind of like super tight,

[23:44] blonde haircut and big shoulder pads

[23:47] that make you think of a cocaine dealer's girlfriend.

[23:49] Now, I want to take a break from-

[23:53] You're talking about Kelly's mom.

[23:55] The shoulder pads are how you know.

[23:57] Yeah, because that's what they do the coke off of.

[23:58] You just lay out a line on that shoulder pad

[24:01] and then snort it out.

[24:03] So like the helmet with the beer cans on it

[24:06] that you wear at the stadium?

[24:07] Exactly, but with cocaine.

[24:09] With two lines on each shoulder pad

[24:12] with little straws that go up to your nose.

[24:14] Yeah, little rolled up dollar bills

[24:16] that go right into your nose, yeah.

[24:18] Also, I want to give a tip to all teens out there

[24:21] who are wanting to sneak out.

[24:24] If you're going to pull this robe trick,

[24:26] you have to lay the track for it ahead of time.

[24:29] You have to establish yourself as a robe-wearing person

[24:33] because otherwise your parent is just going to be like,

[24:35] why are you hanging out in that robe?

[24:38] That's a good point.

[24:39] You got to play the long con.

[24:40] It's a tip for teen from Dan.

[24:43] Another Dan teen tip.

[24:45] Okay, but you can't establish yourself.

[24:48] Sorry, Elliot, go ahead.

[24:49] No, I was just making a reference to a Spark song.

[24:51] Continue, Alex.

[24:52] I was going to say, you can't establish yourself

[24:53] as too much of a robe person

[24:55] because they might think,

[24:56] oh, he's just going to go out in his robe

[24:58] like he usually does.

[24:59] Yeah, like the big Lebowski or the dude Lebowski, I guess.

[25:01] Yeah, yeah.

[25:02] So-

[25:03] Yeah, not the big one.

[25:04] No, the big one does not go out in his robe.

[25:07] Could I get the dude size?

[25:08] I'm not that hungry.

[25:10] I went to a big and dude store.

[25:12] A lot of cargo shorts there, I'd imagine.

[25:18] Yeah, for sure.

[25:19] It's all cargo shorts and three-piece suits, yeah.

[25:21] Okay, so the gang all meets up at the Peach Pit,

[25:28] except for Andrea and Steve,

[25:30] because as we learn later,

[25:33] Steve is meeting Andrea's grandmother

[25:35] and they are held up.

[25:38] Yeah, apparently Andrea's grandmother

[25:41] makes a really good chopped liver

[25:44] and Steve is the one that's holding her.

[25:46] Yeah.

[25:47] And Steve, there's this scene

[25:49] that I really wish was in it.

[25:50] Yes.

[25:51] Where Steve was apparently just begging

[25:53] for more and more chopped liver

[25:54] over at Andrea's grandmother.

[25:55] Yeah, yeah, he keeps cleaning his plate

[26:00] and then saying more, yeah.

[26:01] Like, that's why they're late

[26:03] is because he couldn't stop eating.

[26:06] He keeps saying, if you insist,

[26:08] and she's like, I don't insist, I'm almost out

[26:11] and I was planning on eating this all week.

[26:13] I was hoping to have some also,

[26:16] but you have to eat the rest of it.

[26:17] She's desperately in the kitchen chopping more liver

[26:19] to keep her with his ravenous appetite.

[26:23] She's gotta go find more liver somewhere.

[26:24] This is a road to intestinal distress of some kind.

[26:28] It's late, the stores are closed.

[26:30] She has to get more liver.

[26:31] She's breaking into a grocery store to get liver.

[26:34] Chop it up for Steve.

[26:36] It's a real Little Shop of Horrors situation with Steve.

[26:40] Little Shop of Horrors, yeah.

[26:42] Wait a minute, you have a liver?

[26:45] I'll take yours.

[26:46] I should have said Little Chop of Livers.

[26:48] Anyway, continue, Stuart.

[26:48] So the gang's all there.

[26:50] They're dressed all in black,

[26:52] which is what you wear when you go to a rave.

[26:53] They look out of place for the peach pit

[26:55] because that's just their regular local hang.

[26:57] And we find out that Brandon has to be back early

[26:59] the next morning for his shift.

[27:02] So they get the directions.

[27:03] They leave extra directions for Andrea and Steve

[27:07] and they go to a,

[27:11] they go downtown to a corner store

[27:15] where they exchange an egg

[27:17] with the somewhat bewildered man behind the,

[27:21] or like scared man.

[27:22] He's got, he plays the scene very strangely.

[27:26] The guy-

[27:27] Yeah, I'm not sure what his,

[27:28] I think it's just supposed to be mysterious.

[27:29] Like they're not sure the egg exchange is gonna work.

[27:32] Now you say exchange an egg.

[27:34] Does he hand them an egg in return for their egg?

[27:37] That would make sense.

[27:38] They keep saying exchange an egg,

[27:40] but that's not what they're-

[27:41] Yeah.

[27:42] They don't get an egg back.

[27:43] But I think exchange an egg makes sense

[27:45] because they walk in with an egg.

[27:47] Okay.

[27:47] They hand the egg to the guy behind the counter

[27:50] and he then asks them for $10,

[27:51] which in my head canon, he just made that up.

[27:55] He's like, I'm taking $10.

[27:56] He saw that these are newbies and he's like,

[27:59] you know what?

[27:59] I'll get an extra $10.

[28:00] I'll get an extra $10 on top of this.

[28:02] But he doesn't take $10 from all of them.

[28:04] He only takes one $10 for the whole group.

[28:06] So I think he's got some room to grow.

[28:08] He's got modest goals.

[28:09] He says, I'll get $10 from these kids.

[28:11] I'll use you to buy a ticket

[28:12] to the Flophouse live show, March 19th.

[28:14] That's 9 p.m. Eastern, 6 p.m. Pacific.

[28:16] Just go to theflophouse.com slash SimpleTix

[28:19] and or Slop Hash, sorry.

[28:21] I got it.

[28:22] Slop Hash?

[28:22] TheSlopHash.com.

[28:24] I can go for it.

[28:24] That's what Steve's eating over at Andrea's grandmother's.

[28:28] Go to theflophouse.SimpleTix.com.

[28:30] TheFlophouse.SimpleTix.com.

[28:32] And he buys that ticket.

[28:33] And yeah, get yourself a big bowl of Slop Hash.

[28:35] Eat it during the show.

[28:36] We don't care.

[28:37] We can't smell it through the screen.

[28:38] That's the beauty of it.

[28:39] You could be in a robe eating Slop Hash in your own home.

[28:43] You could be just, you could just have it.

[28:44] The government can't tell you not to do that.

[28:47] Your grandma's just chopping away at that Slop Hash

[28:49] in the kitchen, putting it in a tube

[28:51] that goes straight to your mouth.

[28:52] You're in a robe.

[28:53] You can watch the show.

[28:54] Go for it.

[28:55] No dress code.

[28:56] Don't have to dress up in black.

[28:57] We're a kid to be a kid.

[28:57] The...

[29:00] And another important plot point

[29:02] is that this is when David buys a flask of whiskey

[29:07] and everybody gives him shit for it.

[29:09] And he's like, somebody can enjoy a little bit of alcohol

[29:12] and not be an alcoholic.

[29:13] And I'm like, uh, that's what an alcoholic's gonna say.

[29:16] And which we will find out later.

[29:17] He, his character, I believe,

[29:19] develops a drinking problem, right?

[29:21] I mean, do you mean in the episode itself?

[29:23] No, over the course of the next couple episodes.

[29:25] Because he definitely has a drinking problem

[29:27] over the course of the episode.

[29:28] Yeah.

[29:30] David has a,

[29:32] David develops a drug problem later in the series.

[29:35] I'm trying to remember.

[29:36] We all have,

[29:38] at some point the show liked to introduce them

[29:40] to different dependency issues,

[29:41] but I can remember David's drug problem,

[29:45] but I'm spacing out.

[29:45] Well, there was that one,

[29:46] there was that season where Tori Spelling

[29:48] just keeps buying Beanie Babies on eBay

[29:50] and she's spending way too much on it.

[29:53] I love the delicacy with which you put that.

[29:56] You're like, at some point the show liked to introduce them.

[29:58] Yeah.

[30:00] It's like, oh, Kelly, have you met a compulsive shopping?

[30:08] Yeah, that is how that is how the show works.

[30:10] And that because the I mentioned earlier that season one was

[30:13] like an issue show where each show covered like a different

[30:17] thing. And this is we're right in the middle of them transitioning

[30:20] the show into more of like a soap opera, like a teen soap opera

[30:24] where it's all serial plot lines and stuff.

[30:27] And the and this this is kind of a hybrid of the two.

[30:31] This is why this is kind of the best era of the show is because

[30:34] they're doing an issue show, but there's all these like all

[30:38] these long longer storylines going on.

[30:42] So the gang follows the directions and the directions bring

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[36:05] I'm sorry that very obvious question took me by surprise.

[36:09] Now.

[36:09] I liked the way that you said it reminded me of how Alex described

[36:12] them introducing the 90210 cast members to devices.

[36:16] I guess the dependencies.

[36:17] Yeah, you said that if you go to that website, it will be they can

[36:20] arrange one like very discreetly.

[36:24] Your jumbo truck will come in a plain brown paper wrapper.

[36:31] You will have a guide to take you through the experience.

[36:34] I wonder I want to know.

[36:36] Yeah, I'm your credit card report.

[36:37] It shows up as something else entirely shows up as like as message.com

[36:44] or something like that.

[36:45] I want to know how what the closest someone has gotten to sneaking

[36:50] a business message in as a personal message.

[36:53] Like how there's got to be an art form to that to figuring out how

[36:57] to make it because you can't get too much or else the people listening

[37:01] won't understand that it's a product.

[37:04] Yeah, that's true.

[37:06] Okay.

[37:06] So while we ponder that that question we are gang is now in a really

[37:12] cool warehouse rave now.

[37:15] We were while we were watching this episode.

[37:19] We really like the music sounded really kind of wank.

[37:23] And so I looked it up and apparently there is a is that a good thing

[37:27] or a bad thing?

[37:28] I'm not sure what that was not.

[37:30] Okay, not good.

[37:32] Wank versus dank.

[37:33] Wank is the bad one.

[37:35] Exactly.

[37:36] Yeah, I'm just trying to like just like 90210.

[37:39] I'm just trying to keep you old people up to snuff with what the kids

[37:42] are talking about.

[37:44] So the thing is, I'm also trying to keep everybody on the 411.

[37:52] I'm also drinking quite a bit and I'm speaking before I think about

[37:56] it. So apparently when these episodes originally aired there is music

[38:02] by the Thompson twins and fucking Sisters of Mercy in this scene.

[38:07] And I guess what in syndication or I have no idea when the change

[38:12] would have happened.

[38:13] I think they know if you watch them in syndication, they still have

[38:16] all the good music in it.

[38:18] If you get the if you get the DVDs or the or you watch them on streaming

[38:23] sites, they have a bunch of sound alike and fill in fill in music

[38:27] instead of they have the hits of the day playing in all of these

[38:31] scenes.

[38:32] It's a big show.

[38:32] You know, it's a big show.

[38:34] Yeah, it was a huge and also and as always happens.

[38:37] I'm sure like they negotiate the rights for a particular type of

[38:40] broadcast.

[38:41] Yeah, realizing there will be other ways that people will watch it.

[38:44] Now, I think producers are a little more savvy about that because

[38:48] but at the time it was like the same way that like with WKRP in

[38:51] Cincinnati, they would play all these current hits, right?

[38:53] It's like well, no one's going to see these shows again.

[38:55] Sure, throw the songs in we don't need them for the future.

[38:58] And that's why you cannot even now get like unedited versions of

[39:02] that series.

[39:03] Yeah, it's too bad.

[39:04] People say I want to see a full episode of what grew up in Cincinnati

[39:07] and I can't find it and I'm like I got some news for you about how

[39:10] to pronounce the title.

[39:12] I've got two bad newses.

[39:16] Just like the bad news is bears.

[39:18] Yeah, the most disappointing example of that to me is the state

[39:24] when the state DVD finally came out the $240 worth of pudding sketch.

[39:30] They couldn't use sexual healing in that so they had to replace the

[39:33] the music but it was a live recording with the music playing in the

[39:37] studio.

[39:38] So they had to also overdub the voices again.

[39:41] So you watch that scene.

[39:42] It's got a sound alike track and they're clearly also overdubbed

[39:47] for the entire thing and with older voices.

[39:50] Yeah.

[39:50] Yeah with their voices like, you know from when the DVDs came out

[39:54] so it's very it's very weird and and yeah, but that's I mean that

[39:57] was an MTV show.

[39:58] So they obviously would have had the right.

[40:00] to everything so at the time so this club you know is cool because uh there's a lot

[40:05] of people with tattoos and interesting hairstyles our gang kind of stands out because they're

[40:11] all you know they're dressed a little preppy they all are dressed like they're going to

[40:14] like a really cool funeral except for dylan uh uh brenda is wearing you know denim on

[40:20] denim and dylan is wearing two denim jackets one underneath the other wow yeah they called

[40:27] that a they called that a matryoshka canadian tuxedo yeah quite a fit as the kids would

[40:32] say now so yeah so this rave where would you put it on the scale from one meaning a matrix

[40:38] rave to ten meaning the rate the rave from pusher one uh where is it more of a matrix

[40:45] rave where there's just like sweat flying everywhere and everyone is wearing like leather

[40:49] or is it more of a pusher rave where everyone's kind of vaguely danish scandinavian and there's

[40:54] a lot of people just dancing weird dance moves yeah i gotta say i don't understand

[40:59] this scale in the middle somewhere between a rave where the charmed ones would show up

[41:08] in an episode of charmed or uh blade would show up and be killing all the vamps okay

[41:14] because that was my other that was okay another scale is it a scale from one which is vampire

[41:18] rave where blood is spreading or to ten which is the uh which is the monster dance party

[41:24] little monsters starring fred savage uh where does it land on that okay i would say it's

[41:28] closer to a vampire rave um okay so the the what i'll say if this helps pinpoint it at

[41:37] all is every time i see this scene here's what i think because they walk in and they

[41:41] say one of them says something like i don't think we're in kansas anymore again a great

[41:46] thing for teenagers to be saying to each other and then and then uh another one except

[41:52] that was much more current in 1990 when that was only a 51 year old reference as opposed

[41:56] to now when it's an almost 90 year old reference it was probably around the time that uh dylan

[42:00] calls david rico suave twice he says it twice in the episode because he's drunk yeah the

[42:08] uh because yeah david's already drunk he's a you know he's he's embraced that lifestyle

[42:13] already um but the uh okay so wait i've got a different scale for the raves is it like

[42:18] a one which would be the cantina the mose isley cantina okay to a 10 which would be

[42:22] not java's pleasure barge but the droid torture room in java's palace that's a 10 yeah i think

[42:30] that all of your examples are too interesting for this okay okay because what happens in

[42:35] this scene is they walk into a they walk into a room that has like you know that wire frame

[42:42] like light rigging stuff everywhere and the lights blinking and fog machines going off

[42:48] classic rave and they walk into a machine a couple of characters they walk into a room

[42:51] like that and they and they say we're not in kansas anymore and one of them says we're

[42:55] definitely not in beverly hills anymore and they walk into a party that looks like every

[42:59] party you've seen on television your whole life the thing is it sounds like exactly what

[43:04] you would what you'd see in beverly hills like it sounds like a beverly hills party

[43:08] oh yeah it absolutely is i mean the the fact i think what they do is they every once in

[43:12] a while they will show you like a biker and they'll be like this is what it's a rough

[43:17] crowd oh i see and then at one point you see someone like doing you see someone smoking

[43:20] something well you see someone what you don't understand is like we're only seeing what's

[43:24] in front of the camera behind the camera everyone's like totally nude like they're just like setting

[43:32] things on fire it's insane yeah and to the side of the camera it's like it's the grand

[43:36] ola pre country bear jamboree so it's not like beverly hills at all it's like a southern

[43:41] you know thing you know the rock of fire explosion band is playing there i mean the juxtaposition

[43:47] makes it even more horrifying we got we got to go to this party the rock of fire explosion

[43:52] is playing they keep like they'll point in a direction and the and it cuts to like some

[43:58] stock footage of a dog jumping through flaming hoops and stuff so the the old black and white

[44:04] footage of the guy getting hit in the belly with a cannonball so one of my favorite is

[44:10] this place not kansas so we have one of my favorite exchanges in the episode is uh brandon

[44:17] and emily sit down on a couch and they're kind of surveying the crowd and they point

[44:23] out this guy who's very clearly a drug dealer uh and emily explains that he is dealing euphoria

[44:29] and he's like in front of everybody and she's like yeah you know whatever everybody does

[44:33] it 25 bucks a hit um and brandon's not interested but then his friends all show up and then

[44:38] brandon explains all this shit he's like he's an expert he's already an expert like that

[44:44] guy's a drug dealer and his name is this and this is how much it costs it's hilarious yeah

[44:50] he really shows off all of the knowledge he just got from his girlfriend who was sitting

[44:54] there the whole time man it's so great yeah so uh while that's going on david's getting

[45:00] drunker uh luke and dill dillon and brenda are you know just dancing and having a good

[45:07] time everybody's dancing to have a good time brandon is not dancing because he doesn't

[45:11] dance that's a big that's a big character thing for brandon is he does not dance um

[45:16] and uh and you kind of wonder what his why he wanted to at this point what is the point

[45:23] of sitting on a couch why would you go to this in a room like this and watching i mean

[45:28] i guess maybe watching your friends dance is fun i don't know yeah uh so emily makes

[45:33] i mean is he like pointing and laughing at them and being like look at that look at that

[45:36] actually they do put in a few shots of him like pointing at david david is already acting

[45:42] all kinds of goofy i do think that it is fun to watch your friends dance but with uh you

[45:49] know apologies to uh jordan morris noted uh advocate of the non-dancing lifestyle uh

[45:57] i find that it's fun to watch your friends dance from your position on the dance floor

[46:01] where you are also dancing yeah like i think that the number one i like dancing but number

[46:07] two i feel like off to the side you're not really getting a good sense of what's going

[46:12] on yeah i mean maybe if i was like reclining on a palaquin or something yeah a little bit

[46:18] of height yeah sure yeah being fanned by uh musclemen yeah actually it's pretty good

[46:25] if you can convince yourself that your friends are dancing for you yeah not yeah yeah that's

[46:30] true yes entertain me yes yes good work for my interest yes so while they don't even remember

[46:37] that you're there give them an old double clap a little you know one of those while

[46:41] this is all going on steve and andrea are trying to uh connect the dots and follow their

[46:46] friends and they end up in uh the wrong store and they get some very they have very strange

[46:53] conversations with a woman who wants to call the police on them because they're trying

[46:57] to uh give her an egg um and that's they're on something it's great i mean part of the

[47:03] issue i guess was them asking richard linklater to direct that part that aspect of the episode

[47:07] that storyline he's like i wanted to see them wander around and interact with the people

[47:12] of beverly hills you know so meanwhile uh emily uh emily decides to take the take things

[47:21] up a notch and she secretly doses brendan uh brandon's uh water soda i don't know she

[47:29] goes to get them sodas and they are very i mean i guess they're supposed to be spried

[47:33] or something yeah but they look they look more like cocktails they're in like little

[47:36] short cocktail uh you know tumblers and uh and she yeah she she puts she gets she slips

[47:44] euphoria in both and in both uh cups uh i wonder if i wonder if that's an instance of

[47:50] them originally supposed to be having actual drinks and someone saying no no they're teen

[47:55] characters we can't have them drinking we'll say it's soda what do you think well uh running

[48:00] throughout all of this is the fact that these teens unlike my experience myself and other

[48:07] teens that i know uh i'm not currently a teen but you still keep in touch with the lifestyle

[48:14] yeah i'm of course i of course have my finger on the pulse but yeah uh please take your

[48:19] finger off that they are all at this point at this point dylan is already dylan is like

[48:26] a 17 year old recovering alcoholic at this point oh uh brandon had one episode where

[48:31] he drank too much and totaled his car uh everyone on kelly is opposed to any kind of substance

[48:38] because she saw her mom go through stuff at this point all of them have these like they're

[48:43] all like opposed to stuff except for david obviously he's just like i want to have a

[48:47] i want to have a good time and he has he has some some drinks but it's like um like they're

[48:52] very recovery yeah instead of instead of being like oh instead of being like teens on the one

[48:58] side of it where you want to just go out and have as many different experiences with as many

[49:03] different chemicals as you can which a lot of people went through they are the the show has

[49:07] positioned them on the other side of that where they're like they're like chiding each other for

[49:12] every choice that they make so they get punished for anything that they do and brandon definitely

[49:17] does not want to drink a cocktail uh so it wouldn't it wouldn't have made sense for the

[49:21] show for them to just be like oh let's relax and have one cocktail because on this show no

[49:26] one relaxes and has one cocktail yeah you know you you you have a drink and you get expelled

[49:31] from school right before graduation the uh so brandon gets super high emily gets super high

[49:39] they're like uh she reveals to him what happened but by then he's too far gone he doesn't care

[49:45] they end up uh he's just waving at bats that he thinks are flying around they end up reclining

[49:51] together on the hood of his convertible with him with his shirt off uh the rest of the gang decide

[49:59] to uh no

[50:00] they want to leave. David is wasted and he's barfing everywhere.

[50:05] Yep. Brandon, Brandon starts to burn some bridges.

[50:08] He's mean to Dylan. He's mean to Brenda.

[50:13] He doesn't he doesn't care.

[50:14] There's some hilariously, I would say, really effective

[50:18] high acting from from Jason Priestley here.

[50:21] Yeah. And what does he do?

[50:23] A lot of swaying.

[50:26] I think they did get the club drug thing correct because

[50:29] he's not like a lot of old movies.

[50:32] If somebody gets in a, you know, has takes in a substance of any kind,

[50:36] they just like immediately they're seeing like the swirling lines

[50:39] and they're like going crazy.

[50:40] And there you show them like running down the street

[50:42] with their shirt off or whatever.

[50:43] In the 1970s, they always thought they could fly and jumped off buildings.

[50:46] Yeah, yeah. That's all anyone on drugs did.

[50:48] This is seriously all he does is he lounges on the hood of his car

[50:53] and love bombs all his friends.

[50:54] And he's just like, I love you. You're so great.

[50:56] And everyone's like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

[51:01] Everyone gets so mad at him, even though he's just like he's just rolling,

[51:05] you know, and I mean, and the Emily drugging him is definitely not cool.

[51:10] But there is like a quality to this where they really, really punish Brandon

[51:14] for one time taking a, you know, taking a like a club drug or whatever.

[51:19] Yeah. Yeah. They're all super shitty about it.

[51:21] And then like they yeah, it doesn't let up, you know.

[51:25] So they and they end up taking his keys and leaving him and Emily there. Yeah.

[51:30] And he that seems like the worst, worst solution,

[51:32] like the worst solution, because, of course, the cops show up

[51:35] because that's, you know, that was bound to happen.

[51:38] And they end up running, leaving his car behind in this warehouse.

[51:43] Oh, I don't think that car is going to have a good night.

[51:47] All the everybody gets home.

[51:49] You know, there's going to be some possums sleeping in the trunk of that car.

[51:52] Brandon gets home at 6 a.m.

[51:55] He gets home at 6 a.m.

[51:57] Brenda is still having ditched him, is waiting up for him

[52:00] and makes him feel super bad.

[52:02] So it's so showing up late.

[52:05] And I'm like, you took his keys and then left.

[52:10] She says every time a car drove by, I got up and looked out the window

[52:15] and it's like you let you fucking let it be him unless you learn to hotwire it.

[52:20] Yeah. You had a car that could bring the person home.

[52:25] That should have been the car that you was observing your own as you drove it.

[52:30] Every time I heard a plane go by, I thought you might parachute out of it.

[52:34] I really had no idea how you were going to get home

[52:36] because we took your keys again.

[52:38] But but but she also says something like, I thought you had changed forever.

[52:44] It's like, man, this is really, really the consequences of this night.

[52:48] I mean, that's what happens any time I take like too strong of an edibles.

[52:52] I'm like, I'm always going to be high.

[52:56] But he's like, he's like, Dylan, Dylan, I love you, man.

[52:59] And Dylan's like, you've changed.

[53:03] You're bad now.

[53:04] He used to be about the hate

[53:07] the end of court.

[53:08] And like Brenda's also like, how are you going to fight the one world government

[53:11] if you got love in your heart?

[53:12] Come on, man.

[53:13] And Brenda's like, Brandon, our parents trust us.

[53:18] And I could only imagine having that conversation with my brother.

[53:24] So, of course, I have to say if if if their parents named them Brenda and Brandon,

[53:28] they deserve whatever they get from messing up their kids by giving them

[53:32] almost the exact same name.

[53:33] That was crazy.

[53:34] I thought it was great.

[53:35] I mean, there are there are twins there.

[53:38] I'm a twins.

[53:38] I'm a twin.

[53:39] I don't have the same name as my sister.

[53:42] So we have different names.

[53:44] You actually should.

[53:45] So you're your parents.

[53:46] Yeah, you're right.

[53:48] I don't want them to end up in jail.

[53:50] The and the scene ends.

[53:52] This this scene ends where this confrontation ends, where Brandon's like,

[53:56] I got to be up in a few hours to work my shift at the at the pit.

[54:00] And I'm like, OK, so that's going to be the next scene.

[54:03] That is not the next scene.

[54:04] The next scene is Dylan driving him to pick up his car.

[54:08] So I guess he didn't.

[54:09] He had enough time to go back to pick up his car, which is now ruined.

[54:14] All the tires are gone.

[54:15] The doors are gone.

[54:16] It's been spray painted.

[54:18] There were some very efficient vandals who were just like, we are all over this.

[54:23] And that's real.

[54:24] That's real.

[54:24] John Hughes, fear of the city type stuff.

[54:26] We like you leave a car overnight and it's just stripped right away because it's a city,

[54:30] you know, so I mean, it is a convertible and he left the top down.

[54:34] Yeah.

[54:34] So I mean, that part that I'm not surprised somebody did something to it.

[54:38] But yeah, they like spray painted it and took the wheel.

[54:44] At that point, you might as well just take the whole car.

[54:46] Just go for it.

[54:46] You would think, yeah, it's easier to get the wheels somewhere if you take the car.

[54:51] I would imagine they took the wheels and they go, they go,

[54:54] OK, just roll them a couple of miles to the chop shop.

[54:56] Yeah.

[54:56] I mean, if you're that handy, why don't you just steal the whole car?

[55:00] Yeah, it was pretty nice.

[55:01] I think it was probably like a couple of turn of the century kids.

[55:05] And they just had they just had planks of wood.

[55:07] And they're just hitting those wheels along the road.

[55:10] This is a game, you know, so that he can't he's not going to be able to hide this.

[55:14] So the next scene, you'd think he's at work at the Peach Pit.

[55:18] No, he's having breakfast with his family in that type of breakfast that you that

[55:24] that families have on television where it goes on forever.

[55:27] And you're like, yeah, there's like endless time.

[55:30] Where are you finding all?

[55:30] Yeah, I mean, this morning is an absolute mystery to me.

[55:34] I don't know how you.

[55:36] Yeah, they're like on their third cup of coffee.

[55:38] They're like, well, go to school.

[55:41] So, well, I've had my full.

[55:43] It's always like a full breakfast.

[55:44] Everyone has multiple foods in front of.

[55:46] Yeah, I have my cereal and my eggs and bacon in front of me.

[55:50] So they have milk and also this grapefruit half coffee, grapefruit half pancakes.

[55:56] Yes, please.

[55:56] Waffles and put them on the pancakes.

[55:58] Sure.

[55:59] So it all comes out.

[56:02] They they reveal what happens.

[56:03] His family's concerned that he could have been driven permanently insane by taking euphoria.

[56:09] Yeah, he and that there are going to be some changes around here now.

[56:14] What he does not reveal is who dosed him, even though he admits that he was he was

[56:20] dosed by someone else, that he was roofied.

[56:24] He doesn't reveal who does.

[56:25] Brenda does know.

[56:26] Brenda does.

[56:27] Emily did it.

[56:28] And Brenda and Brenda and Emily have a very rough history.

[56:32] She does not like Emily for when Emily first came to

[56:37] West Beverly, she dated Dylan one night and Brandon the next night.

[56:44] And that's that's Brenda's boyfriend and brother.

[56:47] And so she has hated Emily pretty much ever since, even though they make up for a little

[56:51] bit there.

[56:52] But eventually she did.

[56:53] Yeah, it doesn't work.

[56:54] The two buttheads for the whole time.

[56:56] Yeah, they do sound like buttheads.

[56:58] Yeah, or like lock horns.

[57:02] They're married.

[57:03] Yes.

[57:04] Uh, so I do believe in the canon of the show.

[57:07] They are now.

[57:08] Brenda and Emily are now are now married.

[57:11] So Emily shows up and she and Brandon kind of make up, but not really.

[57:17] And Brandon's going to have to make some changes, too.

[57:19] He's not ready.

[57:20] She's like, next time I won't I won't dose you with drugs.

[57:25] And he's like, I don't know if there will be a next time.

[57:28] Um, and then he goes to work and he and Andrea catch up a little bit.

[57:33] And she is wearing a very, uh, like, like, like a very grandma shirt.

[57:38] It's great.

[57:39] Um, it says, ask me about my grandson.

[57:44] If she showed up wearing that, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have been mad.

[57:47] I'd be like, yo, that's normal.

[57:49] That's his character.

[57:51] She's sitting down, sitting down with a menu and she puts takes her glasses that are on

[57:55] chain around your neck and puts them on the end of her nose.

[57:58] If she like came and was like churning butter because she's like working at

[58:02] Colonial Williamsburg, I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.

[58:05] That's that character.

[58:06] Um, okay.

[58:07] Uh, and that's basically the episode guys.

[58:10] It was, I mean, it, it was, it was touching.

[58:14] Uh, we all learned something.

[58:15] Uh, some of us were changed irrevocably.

[58:19] Um, and I kind of get why everyone's talking about this shit on Twitter.

[58:25] This was the end of the full circle.

[58:28] This was the end of Brandon and Emily Valentine's relationship.

[58:31] I, I don't know if Stuart said that explicitly.

[58:33] Yeah.

[58:34] So the end scene should have been him taking her stuff out of his locker.

[58:37] Yeah.

[58:38] Yeah.

[58:38] Oh, he's not.

[58:39] Yeah.

[58:39] He's not going to, he's going to have to pick up all his stuff from her locker.

[58:42] Yeah.

[58:43] So, uh, you know what?

[58:44] Take all the stuff that you asked me to hold in my pockets for you.

[58:46] And it's all like feathers and shiny rocks that she picked up and just like pennies and

[58:52] right.

[58:52] You know, yeah.

[58:53] Screws.

[58:53] And that's where you discover she's a magpie in disguise.

[58:58] It takes a hard left turn into the fantasy.

[59:02] Wait a minute.

[59:03] You're a magpie, aren't you?

[59:04] And she's like, I didn't want you to find out this way.

[59:06] And she takes off her wig and revealing a bird's head.

[59:08] Oh man, that would have been awesome.

[59:10] Yeah.

[59:10] The next, next Monday at school, he's like, well, Emily was a magpie the whole time.

[59:14] And they're like, who's Emily?

[59:16] Oh, what a double twist.

[59:21] So, so it seems like everyone got really mad at Brandon, which as the point you're making,

[59:25] nothing really bad happened to him.

[59:28] And it seems like the really bad thing that happened was that they took his keys away

[59:31] and his car got wrecked, but it's not.

[59:33] He didn't, he didn't do anything bad to anyone other than, I guess, put his trust in the

[59:38] wrong person.

[59:39] Yeah.

[59:40] So yeah.

[59:40] And the show, the show punishes them quite a bit for, for that, which is, it is weird.

[59:46] A regular Jobe, this guy.

[59:48] Yeah.

[59:50] There is that episode later where his whole, his whole family and all his livestock are

[59:54] killed and he argues with God and then he gets a new family and new livestock.

[59:57] And he's like the new livestock.

[59:59] Fine.

[1:00:00] my old family like it's great and God's like doesn't anything please you nothing's good

[1:00:08] enough for Joe I would love it so much if in every episode of 90210 ended with a kind

[1:00:14] of Doogie Houser style wrap-up where Brandon argues with God about the events of the God

[1:00:23] it seems like I really got punished for something that wasn't my fault and God's like Brandon

[1:00:27] where were you when I created Bayonet Bayonet and Leviathan come on you're gonna tell me

[1:00:31] about the whirlwind all of a sudden you know you're right serious 90210 and then he's and

[1:00:38] then Mork walks in he's like are you done with the room because I need it to talk to

[1:00:42] the people at work oh Mork from Mork and Mindy not Mork and Gork the Orc gods from Warhammer

[1:00:51] thank you that's a reference you have to be a teen on 90210 to get the Mork and Mindy yeah

[1:01:00] so how old are his parents do you think so this is 1990 it's gonna be in like their mid 40s at

[1:01:06] least right yep so they're Jim Cindy I would put I would put at around 40 at least in the

[1:01:12] canvas so they're part of the trick is you cast a dad who was balding that's the first step you

[1:01:18] gotta get that as receding a hairline as possible just to differentiate him from the teenage actors

[1:01:24] who have a normal receding hairline ten years younger than him and because so like these there

[1:01:32] they have experienced they have experience with drugs or probably like yeah I mean they grew up

[1:01:37] in the 60s and well I mean like these characters I have to assume well that there is a line where

[1:01:42] the mother says that you know she was in college in the 60s so she knows and that's why she's scared

[1:01:48] they'll turn into fire starters or some shit that is what happened to a lot to a lot of people yeah

[1:01:55] that's that was the main issue the 60s all the telekinetic fires yeah it doesn't doesn't quite

[1:02:00] ring true to me because as I understand it that that 60s weed was trash apparently it's from what

[1:02:05] from all accounts yeah yeah compared to a modern weed which yeah I hear is really cool yeah I think

[1:02:14] Cindy's talking about the sensation of smoking a cigarette too fast basically is what she experienced in college

[1:02:21] yeah yeah spinning around in an office chair a little bit too much she's worried that there might

[1:02:27] be a lot of coughing involved yeah this doesn't want him to get a sore throat yeah yeah so I look

[1:02:33] I went to college in the 60s I know what it's like to be slightly nauseous for a little bit

[1:02:38] kind of a headache all right well so this was a very special episode of Beverly Hills 90210 and

[1:02:47] of course that means that this was a very special end of the flop yeah of oh sorry boy talking tube

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[1:03:04] I'd like to thank my co-hosts who are Dan McCoy and Elliot Kalin I'm Stuart Wellington and our

[1:03:10] producer Alex Smith has joined us as an expert yeah thanks for an expert I'm an expert not a

[1:03:17] dude I'm relinquishing my dude status so that the title of the show still makes it clear to everybody

[1:03:24] I believe there were three dudes so Charlene and I were watching an episode since we're still

[1:03:36] talking tube Charlene and I were talking about the television show catfish which is on the tube

[1:03:41] so this still counts this is fair we're still on this I was talking about of the three of us the

[1:03:48] three main flop housers which of us would be most likely to be catfished by somebody and I think it's

[1:03:54] me I think I am most likely because you know I'm a big romantic you know I would have said Dan a

[1:04:01] long time ago but now I do think it's used to because you live so much of your life online

[1:04:05] much yeah I feel like super online I'm so plugged in my my online stuff is mainly limited to me

[1:04:13] promoting things on Twitter and Dan's is mainly limited to the dumbest jokes on Twitter and you're

[1:04:21] living in the metaverse by this point you have to do your reboot I'm committed to tying myself

[1:04:26] to this cycle that makes me sad all the time yeah I you know sometimes I'm like is there is there a

[1:04:33] place where I can see Stuart squatting like just like I see him sticking his butt out while lifting

[1:04:40] large amounts of weight and turns out there is a gram of tick-tock it's on yeah go look at it

[1:04:47] yeah you can double up just like my two butt cheeks so congratulations on your upcoming catfishing I

[1:04:52] hope it goes great yeah I mean it never does sometimes people fall in love oh I would love

[1:05:00] to see an episode of like a good good catfish where it's like oh this is so much better than I

[1:05:06] expected yeah yeah really underselling yourself this is amazing there are enough episodes where

[1:05:11] it is like actually the person where I'm like shocked I'm blown away but most of them are not

[1:05:18] most of them are sad mm-hmm yeah so how many of them turned out to be actual catfish oh you would

[1:05:25] be surprised that it's most of them are actual catfish I mean that would be a surprise to be

[1:05:32] like I fell in love with the person of my dreams and they're like I have to tell you I'm not a

[1:05:36] person at all I'm a cat yeah like that my fish has got big like whiskers you thought that I was

[1:05:43] a man with a mustache but no this is actually long let me take off my wig I'm not Emily your

[1:05:50] girlfriend I'm a catfish I mean it's weird it's very weird but you can't be too surprised the

[1:05:57] show is called catfish yeah it's amazing how they keep keep it fresh every episode so you're

[1:06:07] always wondering you're in an effort you like right cuz it's called catfish of course keep it

[1:06:14] fresh like a delicious piece of catfish yeah so I think I've already done the sign off so this was

[1:06:21] a post script I guess it's the one show that has its own after show embedded in it so uh just say

[1:06:41] goodbye or something by the way I have some podcast myself just if if you were not absolutely

[1:07:00] repulsed at listening to me speak along with three of your favorite parasocial relationship relations

[1:07:07] go ahead and check out howl Doddy's fast track and the big howl and possum podcast and I produce

[1:07:14] this show and I produce I know the owner with Charlene Wellington yeah those are also check

[1:07:21] out the flop house if you haven't heard it that's a great yeah let's do it Stu and Charlene I think

[1:07:28] are you both on mainline episodes and I'm on like a patreon one of fast track I'm just trying to

[1:07:34] sweeten the deal for our show yes Stuart is on Stuart is on I believe episode four of the first

[1:07:39] season of howl Doddy's fast track we wrote a song together about going to the movies about about going

[1:07:45] to the going to go into the movie theater and then Dan and I did a phone I do but I do parody songs

[1:07:50] on my bonus episodes and Dan and I did Ziggy Stardust about dipping chips and dip we turned

[1:08:01] Ziggy Stardust into it's the the bonus episodes which you can get by going to patreon.com slash

[1:08:07] howl Doddy h-o-w-e double l-d-a-w-d-y five dollars a month gets you three bonus episodes and the one

[1:08:13] with Dan well the parody episodes what we do is we we have a list of songs and a list of topics

[1:08:18] and we roll two dice and it decides what the song is and what the topic is so we rolled Ziggy Stardust

[1:08:24] and chips and dip as the topic the most recent one of those we got electric feel by management was

[1:08:35] the song that we were parodying and the topic turned out to be electric eels as well so we

[1:08:41] ended up doing a parody of electric feel that's more about electric eels than the original song

[1:08:46] so nice and that's how that's just that's just how crazy we get with it over there in the fast

[1:08:52] track with a supporter patreon okay well now I'm gonna say bye bye bye I've wanted to say that for

[1:09:01] so long maximum fun org comedy and culture artists owned audience supported

FH Mini 50 - Tuboy Talkin' Tube for Teens to 2 Two Dudes Tonight, That’s Right, with Alex Smith

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