FH Mini 77 - The Flop House: Movie Doctors

[0:00] Hey, everyone, and welcome to the Flophouse Mini for this week.

Dan McCoy

[0:08] I'm Dan McCoy.

[0:10] I'm Stuart Wellington.

Elliott Kalan

[0:16] I'm just killing time because I can't remember what my name is.

[0:19] I'm just vamping until I remember what my name is.

[0:21] It's Ellie Kalin.

[0:23] Oh, thank you.

[0:24] I'm Ellie Kalin.

[0:24] Thank you so much, Dan.

[0:25] I appreciate it.

Dan McCoy

[0:26] And so normally at this point, I would have a labored explanation of what we do.

[0:30] I would have a labored explanation of what we do on minis.

[0:31] But first, because this is the MaxFunDrive, or it just ended, actually.

[0:35] Yeah, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[0:35] Real quick, guys.

[0:36] It's the final weekend of the MaxFunDrive.

[0:39] It technically ended, but the books are still—

Elliott Kalan

[0:41] The final weekend of the MaxFunDrive.

Stuart Wellington

[0:43] You guys are slowing me down here.

[0:45] Sorry.

[0:46] I'm all about speed because people should go sign up right now.

[0:50] Right now.

[0:50] Because the books are still open over the weekend.

[0:52] For as little as $5 a month, you can get access to our full bursting library of bonus content.

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[1:10] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[1:11] Because remember, it's the final weekend of the MaxFunDrive.

Dan McCoy

[1:15] If you sneak in over the weekend, they'll never notice.

[1:19] It'll be our little secret.

[1:20] That's weird.

Stuart Wellington

[1:21] Even though we have headphones on, a dog across the street started barking when Elliot hit the high notes.

Elliott Kalan

[1:26] Wow.

[1:27] And they're not going to like it when I say, everybody's pledging for this weekend.

[1:31] Okay.

[1:32] Well—

Stuart Wellington

[1:32] Do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

[1:33] Oh, wait.

[1:33] The dogs are dancing, guys.

[1:35] What?

Elliott Kalan

[1:36] They're up on their hind legs.

Stuart Wellington

[1:37] You should see this.

[1:38] Wait.

Elliott Kalan

[1:39] The dog's picking up the phone, calling its cousin, saying this is the sound they've been looking for.

[1:45] Uh-huh.

Dan McCoy

[1:46] Yeah.

[1:47] Hey, so now we go into the actual show.

[1:51] And on the Flophouse—

Elliott Kalan

[1:52] The actual show is where we're going right now.

Dan McCoy

[1:57] So the general premise of the Flophouse, of course, is that we watch a bad movie and then we talk about it.

[2:02] But then we thought, hey, let's do some extra shows, too.

[2:04] And those ones, not very structured.

[2:06] At this time around, for MaxFunDrive, we've decided to provide some personalized recommendations for listeners.

[2:15] We had listeners write in with what they felt were, you know, a few—not overwhelming—a few pertinent facts about who they were.

[2:25] And then we were all going to come in and try and give personalized movie—bespoke movie recommendations from the Flophouse.

Elliott Kalan

[2:33] We're like movie doctors.

[2:35] Yeah.

[2:35] Yeah, exactly.

[2:36] These recommendations are—

[2:37] Movie doctors.

[2:38] bespoke, bespoke.

[2:42] Oh, man.

Stuart Wellington

[2:43] Did you just come from a fucking Chuck E. Cheese?

[2:45] Why are you singing all these songs?

Elliott Kalan

[2:47] You're right.

[2:47] I spent my morning as I do every morning,

[2:50] having my morning coffee at Chuck E. Cheese.

Dan McCoy

[2:54] Yeah, and I was going to object to movie doctors

[2:57] after I hit bespoke so hard,

[2:59] but you know what?

[3:00] In a way, doctors are the most bespoke tailors

[3:02] because if they sew you up,

[3:03] they're doing it right on your body.

[3:05] It is specific to you.

[3:07] Yeah, made to order.

Stuart Wellington

[3:08] Yeah, you can't get surgery off the rack.

Dan McCoy

[3:11] No, no, you can't.

Stuart Wellington

[3:13] At least not until that Black Mirror episode.

[3:18] We all look off into the distance.

[3:20] It fades into an episode of Black Mirror

[3:22] where you can get surgery off the rack.

[3:24] David Cronenberg's like,

[3:25] you totally stole this bit from me.

[3:26] And I'm like, chill out, dude.

[3:28] It's like, you don't have a trademark on future surgery.

[3:31] And he's like, oh, I can trademark whatever I want.

[3:34] Canadian law is very open for that sort of thing.

Dan McCoy

[3:37] I don't even know if that's true.

[3:38] But let's go on to the first listener.

[3:42] Now, I eased us in, or I made it harder.

[3:46] It's possible I made it harder by choosing one for the first one

[3:49] with the least sort of like lengthy information.

[3:53] This person just provided some bullet points,

[3:55] and we have to extrapolate.

Elliott Kalan

[3:57] This is definitely the one that took me the longest to think of one for.

Dan McCoy

[4:00] Yeah, but it's the quickest to read.

[4:02] So I put it at the top.

[4:04] Yep, sure.

[4:05] And it goes, hey, Peaches, I'm David,

[4:07] and I'm a bartender who lives in Chicago,

[4:11] who hates kids, but loves obscure 90s alt rock.

[4:17] So, yeah, it's concise.

[4:21] It's a haiku of a question.

Stuart Wellington

[4:23] I actually had a movie pop out right away.

Elliott Kalan

[4:26] Really?

[4:26] Well, why don't you go first?

[4:27] If it's the one that it took me forever to think of,

[4:30] I'm going to get so mad.

Stuart Wellington

[4:31] Oh, you're going to be jealous, you mean.

[4:34] So I don't know.

[4:34] I mean, I feel like this is an interesting exercise

[4:37] because I don't –

[4:38] a lot of the movies that I came up with,

[4:40] I wouldn't say are like super deep cuts,

[4:42] but I feel like this one kind of ticks a bunch of those boxes,

[4:45] and I'm going to recommend Michael Mann's Thief.

[4:48] Oh.

[4:49] It's a great Chicago movie.

[4:51] It's got a definite like blue-collar appeal

[4:54] that I kind of feel ties in with –

[4:56] I mean, I don't know where you're bartending,

[4:58] but I feel like service industry workers

[4:59] have a touch of the like blue-collar element.

[5:03] There's –

[5:04] I don't think there's any kids in this movie,

[5:06] so you don't have to worry about that.

Elliott Kalan

[5:07] You're wanting kids at one point,

[5:09] but you never see any material.

Stuart Wellington

[5:09] Is that that amazing scene

[5:11] where he pulls out his fucking prison collage?

Elliott Kalan

[5:14] Yes, his collage of terror that is his dream,

[5:17] and at that moment,

[5:18] she should walk out of that date right there.

[5:20] She should –

[5:21] I mean, I've seen a lot –

Stuart Wellington

[5:23] you know, the internet's full of, you know,

[5:25] Instagram reels and TikTok videos laying out red flags.

[5:30] Number one on that list is a prison collage.

[5:34] A thief vision board.

[5:35] Yeah, a thief vision board,

[5:37] prominently featuring Willie Nelson.

Dan McCoy

[5:40] I don't know.

Stuart Wellington

[5:40] That softens for me a little bit.

[5:42] Yeah, I guess you're right.

[5:43] It's – yeah, it's so great.

[5:45] And while it's not 90s alt-rock,

[5:47] the entire soundtrack is by Tangerine Dream,

[5:49] which is great.

[5:50] It is a great soundtrack.

[5:51] I love this movie.

[5:53] It is undeniably a classic.

[5:55] It's great.

[5:56] James Caan gives arguably his best performance,

[6:00] one of them.

[6:02] And it's what, the first on-screen appearance of Jim Belushi,

[6:07] I think.

Dan McCoy

[6:09] So that's very Chicago.

[6:11] It's very Chicago.

[6:12] Yeah, I love Thief.

Stuart Wellington

[6:14] So was that exactly what you were picking?

Elliott Kalan

[6:16] It is not.

[6:17] That's a great – I wish I had thought of it.

[6:18] That's a great, great recommendation.

Dan McCoy

[6:20] I – yeah.

[6:23] Like Stuart, I struggled with like,

[6:25] oh, you know, deep cuts.

[6:27] You know, if I recommend something that everyone knows,

[6:30] is that useful?

[6:31] Ultimately, I decided I will throw all of that out.

[6:35] I'm just going to try and figure out –

[6:36] Just going to recommend Star Wars?

[6:38] Yeah.

[6:38] No, I'm just going to –

[6:39] I mean, if they haven't seen Star Wars,

[6:41] it's going to blow their mind.

[6:42] Whatever comes to mind after thinking about it

[6:45] will be what I go with,

[6:47] and I will prioritize something

[6:49] that someone may not have heard of.

[6:51] But anyway, that's sort of more general

[6:54] than it has to do with this.

[6:56] But this one was hard for me.

[6:58] I considered Green Book

[7:00] since it's sort of about a band that gets –

[7:05] You mean Green Room.

[7:06] Sorry.

[7:07] Green Room.

[7:07] Very different movies.

[7:08] I was like, Green Book?

[7:09] Okay, interesting.

[7:10] A movie I know you didn't like.

[7:11] It's strange.

[7:12] Green Room.

[7:12] I haven't even seen Green Book.

[7:14] I don't even know where that –

[7:15] I just wrote down green and like –

[7:18] either my phone autocorrects it.

[7:20] It was like, do you mean Green Book?

Stuart Wellington

[7:22] Arguably, the movie featuring actual skinheads

[7:25] might be less racist.

[7:26] Yeah, yeah.

[7:27] Green Room.

Elliott Kalan

[7:28] That's food for thought.

[7:29] That's green food for thought.

[7:31] Vegetables.

[7:31] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[7:32] A harrowing thriller about a band

[7:34] that gets trapped in a bar full of Nazis.

[7:37] It's great.

Elliott Kalan

[7:38] You think Paul McCartney and Wings

[7:40] had a band on the run.

[7:41] Oh, boy.

[7:42] This is a band that is really on the run.

Stuart Wellington

[7:44] That movie features –

[7:46] I mean, I love Jeremy Sonier movies,

[7:48] and that fucking arm scene

[7:50] with the fucking box cutter

[7:52] is the –

[7:53] like, it's horrifying.

[7:55] And then the rest of the movie,

[7:57] he's just running around,

[7:58] and I'm like,

[7:58] what does his arm look like

[8:00] under all that bandage?

[8:01] It looks horrible.

[8:02] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[8:03] I mean, I considered that one.

[8:05] I also considered a movie called

[8:07] Color Me Obsessed

[8:08] about the replacements,

[8:10] but I haven't seen that movie.

[8:12] I just thought Andy Rock in the Midwest.

[8:13] I think it's a good idea

[8:13] to recommend movies you've seen.

[8:15] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[8:16] Yeah.

[8:16] I stuck only the movies I've seen,

[8:18] and I decided to recommend

[8:20] Dig,

[8:22] the documentary from 2004

[8:24] about the Brian Jonestown massacre

[8:28] and the Dandy Warhols

[8:29] as one band blows up

[8:30] and one is imploding.

[8:32] It is interesting,

[8:33] even if you are not

[8:35] sort of a fan of alternative rock

[8:38] of the time,

[8:39] but as one,

[8:40] you might get a little extra out of it.

[8:42] But it's just sort of a fascinating

[8:44] true life story of,

[8:47] I don't know,

[8:48] what it's like to be in a band,

[8:50] what it's like to deal with sudden fame,

[8:51] what it's like to be

[8:52] the kind of person

[8:53] who is in a band

[8:55] who maybe isn't equipped

[8:56] for sudden fame,

[8:57] all of those things.

Stuart Wellington

[8:58] And like struggling

[9:00] when you're in a creative endeavor

[9:02] with multiple other people

[9:03] who are maybe difficult

[9:05] and how tough that can be

[9:08] on, I don't know,

[9:09] a sensitive person

[9:10] or a person who's got

[9:11] like a really hard work ethic.

Dan McCoy

[9:12] Are you subtweeting us

[9:14] at this point?

[9:15] Is that what's...

[9:17] Subpotting, yeah.

[9:19] So that's what I came up with.

Elliott Kalan

[9:21] This was, like I said,

[9:22] this was a hard one for me

[9:23] and so I'm going to recommend

[9:23] a movie that...

[9:24] I don't know that one, Dan.

[9:25] I'm going to,

[9:26] I'll have to check it out.

[9:27] Yeah, it's good.

[9:28] Mine is a slight,

[9:29] I didn't know it either.

[9:30] Mine's a slightly qualified

[9:31] recommendation

[9:32] because it's a movie

[9:32] I haven't seen

[9:33] since I was a teenager.

[9:35] But I really latched

[9:36] onto the 90s alt-rock aspect

[9:38] and I think for this,

[9:40] I'm going to recommend

[9:40] for David,

[9:42] the movie Freaked

[9:43] starring Alex Winter.

[9:44] Oh, nice.

[9:45] And co-directed

[9:46] by Alex Winter.

[9:47] This is a comedy

[9:48] that was barely released

[9:49] in the United States.

[9:50] It was from 1993.

[9:52] Stars Alex Winter

[9:53] and Randy Quaid.

[9:54] Mr. T and Brooke Shields

[9:55] and Keanu Reeves

[9:56] are in it.

[9:56] But Keanu Reeves

[9:57] is not quite recognizable

[9:58] because he's under

[9:59] dog man makeup

[9:59] the entire movie,

[10:00] almost.

[10:01] And this is a movie

[10:03] that I'm sure

[10:04] there are jokes in it

[10:05] that do not age well

[10:06] since it is about

[10:07] people being kidnapped

[10:08] and turned into

[10:10] strange people.

[10:14] Sideshow performers.

[10:16] But I remember

[10:17] seeing it as a kid

[10:18] and thinking like,

[10:19] as a teenager and a kid

[10:20] and seeing it,

[10:21] because he used to play

[10:21] on HBO a lot,

[10:22] that it was really funny

[10:24] and being surprised

[10:25] that there wasn't

[10:26] much being done with it

[10:27] otherwise.

[10:28] And apparently

[10:28] it was originally

[10:29] meant to be

[10:30] a butthole surfer's movie.

[10:32] And that got changed

[10:34] quite a bit

[10:35] during pre-production

[10:36] and production.

[10:37] But it's one that

[10:38] I bet you'll laugh at

[10:39] a few times.

[10:40] It's got a very 90s

[10:41] alt-rock,

[10:42] I feel like,

[10:42] sensibility to it.

[10:44] So that's Freaked.

[10:45] But again,

[10:45] I'm sure there are jokes

[10:46] in there that have not

[10:47] aged well

[10:48] considering this is

[10:49] a 30-year-old movie

[10:49] that was, I think,

[10:50] supposed to be real,

[10:51] like, edgy

[10:52] at the time.

[10:53] So I guarantee you

[10:54] there's stuff in there

[10:54] that is less sensitive

[10:56] than it should be.

[10:57] I just don't know what.

[10:59] Nice.

Stuart Wellington

[11:00] All right.

[11:00] So write in,

[11:01] tell us if Freaked holds up.

[11:03] Yeah, I guess so.

[11:04] Yeah, thank you.

[11:06] I've actually never seen it,

[11:07] but I do like

[11:08] the butthole servers a lot.

[11:09] And I do like

[11:09] Alex Winter a lot.

[11:10] I feel like it was on

Dan McCoy

[11:11] HBO a fair amount.

Elliott Kalan

[11:13] It was on HBO a lot.

[11:14] But I remember

[11:15] some very funny jokes from it.

[11:16] I don't remember all of it,

[11:17] but I remember funny jokes in it.

Stuart Wellington

[11:19] Maybe I'll just wander around

[11:20] the Roku channel

[11:22] or Tubi

[11:23] and see if it'll turn up

[11:24] like yesterday

[11:25] when I decided to watch

[11:26] Evil Tunes.

[11:28] Yeah.

Elliott Kalan

[11:30] That's one I've never

[11:30] actually seen.

[11:31] I only saw it

[11:32] in the video store.

Dan McCoy

[11:32] Guess what?

[11:33] It rules.

[11:34] Freaked is one of those movies

[11:35] that, yeah,

[11:35] like either

[11:36] it exists

[11:38] no place

[11:39] except for maybe

[11:40] like someone who

[11:41] uploaded it to YouTube.

[11:42] It is on YouTube

[11:43] in its entirety.

[11:44] Or it exists

[11:44] every place.

[11:46] Like it's one of those.

Elliott Kalan

[11:48] Oh, I see.

[11:49] Yeah, one of those movies

[11:49] where by

[11:50] some strange

[11:51] vicissitude of reality,

[11:53] yeah,

[11:53] it either disappeared

[11:55] off the face of the earth

[11:56] or it is

[11:56] in a four pack of movies

[11:58] you can buy

[11:58] at the grocery store.

[11:59] Yeah, yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[11:59] It's playing on the like

[12:01] screen at the bus stop.

Elliott Kalan

[12:04] Why is it that

[12:05] Jake Gyllenhaal's

[12:06] Bubble Boy

[12:06] is readily,

[12:07] it seems like

[12:08] it's available everywhere.

[12:09] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[12:10] No one wanted it

[12:11] even at the time

[12:11] and yet

[12:12] now you can't

[12:14] walk down the street

[12:15] slipping on a copy

[12:17] of Bubble Boy.

Elliott Kalan

[12:18] No, yeah.

[12:18] Swing a dead cat

[12:19] and that dead cat

[12:20] will say please

[12:20] I hope I don't hit

[12:21] a copy of Bubble Boy

[12:22] this time.

Stuart Wellington

[12:22] Can we swing

[12:23] a different dead animal?

[12:26] Sorry.

Elliott Kalan

[12:28] Swing a dead cat

[12:29] and you're bound

[12:29] to hit a copy

[12:30] of Bubble Boy.

Dan McCoy

[12:32] This one is

[12:33] from Emily Lasting

[12:35] withheld.

[12:37] Emily writes

[12:37] Emily and Perry.

[12:38] Yeah.

[12:39] Hey guys,

[12:39] here's the pertinent

[12:40] details for my

[12:41] personalized pick.

[12:43] Almost 30,

[12:44] female,

[12:45] in a film and TV

[12:45] production program.

[12:47] Have large blind spots

[12:48] for some cinema classics

[12:50] I want fixed.

[12:51] Enjoyer of 80s horror,

[12:53] 90s trash,

[12:54] and bonafide

[12:55] TCM classics

[12:56] so all three floppers

[12:58] have a chance

[12:58] of making the best

[12:59] recommendation.

[13:00] Big fan of the show

[13:01] would really appreciate

[13:02] giving some recommendations

[13:03] from my favorite podcasters.

[13:04] Keep it sleazy.

[13:06] Emily Lasting withheld.

Elliott Kalan

[13:09] Now if what I'm doing

[13:09] right now is not sleazy

[13:11] do I have to up

[13:11] the sleaze factor?

[13:12] Yeah.

[13:13] To meet Emily's standards?

[13:14] I feel like I really

[13:15] have to maintain.

Dan McCoy

[13:16] It says keep it sleazy.

Stuart Wellington

[13:18] I feel like I really

[13:18] latched onto the sleazy

[13:20] part of this one

Dan McCoy

[13:21] with the my record.

[13:22] Well that's the thing.

[13:24] So Emily says

[13:25] enjoyer of 80s horror,

[13:28] 90s trash,

[13:28] and bonafide TCM classics.

[13:30] Now I can only assume

[13:32] by process of elimination

[13:35] that I'm supposed to be

[13:36] the 90s trash

[13:39] because I assume that

[13:40] Stu is 80s horror

[13:41] and you're the TCM classics

[13:42] but those are also

[13:43] things I enjoy.

[13:44] So look,

[13:45] don't flatten us

[13:46] into one thing.

[13:46] Dan,

[13:46] you contain multitudes.

[13:48] Yeah,

[13:48] but that being said

[13:49] because I presume

[13:50] that was mine,

[13:52] I went in that direction.

[13:54] Okay.

[13:54] And I would like to recommend

[13:56] an erotic thriller

[13:57] from the 90s.

[13:58] Keeping it sleazy.

[14:00] 1995.

[14:02] Directed by Peter Hall

[14:03] starring Antonio Manderas

[14:05] and Rebecca De Mornay.

[14:07] It is called

[14:07] Never Talk to Strangers.

[14:09] It has the two things

[14:11] I really like

[14:12] in a 90s erotic

[14:17] dumb thriller.

Elliott Kalan

[14:19] I thought you were

[14:19] going to say

[14:19] that it's the two things

[14:20] I really like,

[14:21] boobs and butts.

Dan McCoy

[14:25] Those are amongst

[14:26] the many things.

[14:28] But in a 90s...

[14:28] That's in the constellation

[14:29] of things that you enjoy.

[14:31] Yeah.

[14:31] If there's a word cloud,

[14:33] those would be

[14:33] some of the larger words.

[14:35] But no,

[14:36] I...

[14:37] For a 90s erotic thriller,

[14:40] it has the things I like,

[14:41] which is,

[14:41] number one,

[14:43] a utterly implausible,

[14:45] weird,

[14:46] jello style,

[14:47] like,

[14:48] explanation for

[14:49] everything that's going on

[14:50] that would fall apart

[14:51] in life

[14:52] but is perfect

[14:53] in the context

[14:53] of one of these thrillers.

[14:55] And a little,

[14:58] like,

[14:58] genuine sexiness.

[14:59] There's a scene in this

[15:00] where Rebecca De Mornay

[15:02] bites Antonio Banderas' butt

[15:04] and it's like a thing

[15:05] that,

[15:06] like,

[15:07] to see actors doing,

[15:08] like,

[15:08] you don't usually see

[15:09] that kind of,

[15:10] like,

[15:11] goofy intimacy

[15:12] on screen.

[15:14] No.

[15:14] Yeah.

[15:15] It's a movie that promises

[15:16] a butt will be bit.

[15:18] But,

[15:18] that would be a great

[15:21] tagline for a movie.

[15:22] A butt will be bit.

[15:26] But,

[15:27] but,

[15:28] yeah,

[15:29] no,

[15:29] I mean,

[15:30] like,

[15:30] it's a silly movie

[15:31] but it's kind of impressive

[15:32] that it actually feels,

[15:33] like,

[15:33] sexy at parts.

[15:34] So,

[15:35] that's the one

[15:35] I'm going with.

Stuart Wellington

[15:36] I mean,

[15:37] I think it probably speaks

[15:38] to the charisma

[15:38] of those two leads.

[15:40] Yeah.

[15:40] Yeah,

[15:40] very sexy people.

[15:44] something that I think,

[15:45] in a way,

[15:46] if you look at it

[15:47] from a certain angle,

[15:48] it kind of hits

[15:49] all the criteria

[15:50] of this recommendation.

[15:51] Interesting.

[15:52] Because it was a,

[15:53] something that

[15:54] I did not see

[15:56] at the time

[15:56] of its release

[15:57] and I didn't see

[15:58] until a little bit later.

[15:59] I think it

[16:00] definitely hits

[16:01] 80s horror.

[16:02] It's a little,

[16:03] it's a little sleazy

[16:04] and it also has

[16:06] a little bit

[16:07] of a TCM vibe.

[16:09] Fred Decker's

[16:10] Night of the Creeps,

[16:12] a movie I'm sure

[16:13] we've mentioned

[16:13] on the podcast before.

[16:14] It stars

[16:15] that hunk,

[16:16] Tom Atkins.

[16:18] Uh-oh,

[16:18] look out,

[16:19] ladies,

[16:20] lock up your daughters.

[16:21] What?

[16:23] So it's two generations.

[16:24] Because their boyfriends

[16:25] are dead.

[16:27] The,

[16:27] uh,

[16:28] yeah,

[16:28] it's a,

[16:29] it's a zombie movie

[16:30] involving brain worms.

[16:32] Uh,

[16:32] there's bits that are

[16:33] in black and white

[16:34] from ye olden times

[16:36] and there's,

[16:37] uh,

[16:37] current stuff.

[16:38] It's great.

[16:40] It's super funny.

[16:41] It's one of those movies

[16:41] that I'm like,

[16:42] if I had seen this movie

[16:43] as a teenager,

[16:44] it would have,

[16:45] I don't,

[16:45] I don't feel like

[16:46] it would have changed me.

[16:47] It's just one of those things

[16:48] that I'm like,

[16:48] how did I not see this earlier?

[16:51] I'm surprised you didn't

[16:51] because I saw it

[16:52] as a teenager.

[16:53] It hits like every,

[16:54] it like ticks every box

[16:55] of what I like in a movie.

[16:57] Yeah.

[16:57] Um,

[16:58] it's stylish.

[16:59] There's a fucking,

[17:00] uh,

[17:01] what a morgue attendant

[17:02] who shows up,

[17:03] uh,

[17:03] with a fucking sandwich.

[17:04] I love that shit.

[17:06] Um,

[17:07] yeah,

[17:07] it's so great.

[17:08] It's got great one-liners,

[17:09] two thumbs up.

[17:10] If you haven't seen

[17:11] Night of the Creeps

[17:11] and you like

[17:12] any of the things

[17:13] that I've mentioned.

Dan McCoy

[17:14] Or if you like

[17:15] James Gunn's Slither,

[17:16] which is essentially

[17:17] a remake.

[17:18] Which is very much

Elliott Kalan

[17:18] an update in some ways

[17:20] of Night of the Creeps,

[17:20] yeah.

[17:21] But also very good and fun.

Stuart Wellington

[17:22] Slither's very good

[17:23] and very fun.

[17:24] Is it as good as

[17:24] Night of the Creeps?

[17:25] I'm sorry,

[17:26] James Gunn,

[17:26] you're not as good

[17:27] as Night of the Creeps.

[17:28] Hey,

[17:28] you know what?

[17:29] Few are.

[17:30] So,

[17:30] if you haven't seen

[17:31] Night of the Creeps,

[17:32] go check it out.

[17:32] It's so much fun.

[17:33] I love it.

Elliott Kalan

[17:34] I'm going to recommend a movie

[17:36] that I love

[17:37] that I think ticks off

[17:38] the classic movie box

[17:39] and I don't know

[17:41] about the sleaze box,

[17:42] but it's certainly

[17:43] got an erotic system to it.

[17:45] Yeah,

[17:46] we covered sleaze,

[17:47] but this is an erotic movie

[17:48] in some ways,

[17:49] although it's mostly

[17:50] emotional erotics.

[17:51] And that's

[17:52] Black Narcissus.

[17:53] That's right,

[17:53] starring Deborah Kerr.

[17:56] I was about to say

[17:56] David Kerr,

[17:57] which is not a person.

[17:58] Deborah Kerr.

[17:59] Deborah Kerr.

[18:00] This is a

[18:02] Powell and Pressburger film.

[18:04] It is about

[18:04] some nuns

[18:05] in the Himalayas

[18:06] who are being

[18:07] forced to confront

[18:08] basically

[18:09] the buried feelings

[18:11] of loneliness

[18:13] and kind of

[18:14] erotic stirring

[18:14] that they

[18:16] do not want to

[18:17] feel or give into

[18:18] as they are

[18:19] nuns in the Himalayas.

[18:21] And it's

[18:21] shot in

[18:22] the classic

[18:23] Powell and Pressburger

[18:24] super lush color.

[18:26] Everything looks beautiful.

[18:27] It looks gorgeous.

[18:28] It is a really

[18:29] like a

[18:30] like

[18:30] sensual movie

[18:32] in a classy way.

[18:33] Dan's,

[18:33] it sounds like,

[18:34] is kind of a sensual movie

[18:35] in a sleazy way.

[18:36] And this is a sensual movie

[18:37] in a classy way.

[18:39] It's a movie where

[18:40] no one bites anybody's butts,

[18:41] but at one point

[18:42] a woman puts on

[18:43] lipstick

[18:44] and it is

[18:45] like a thunderbolt

[18:45] coming out of the sky,

[18:47] like an erotic thunderbolt,

[18:48] just her putting on

[18:49] that lipstick.

[18:50] The male character in it,

[18:52] he rides around

[18:52] on a very small horse,

[18:53] which is accurate

[18:54] to where the movie

[18:55] takes place,

[18:56] but it does look

[18:56] a little ridiculous.

[18:57] So you have to

[18:58] try not to laugh

[18:59] at how small his horse is.

[19:00] But otherwise,

[19:01] it's a really,

[19:02] really tight thriller,

[19:04] but also

[19:05] a,

[19:07] just like a gorgeous

[19:08] looking movie.

[19:08] That's Black Narcissus.

Stuart Wellington

[19:10] Did you,

[19:10] did you see,

[19:11] didn't they do like a

[19:12] TV version?

[19:12] They did a mini-series of it.

[19:13] A mini-series recently,

[19:14] did you see that?

Elliott Kalan

[19:15] I didn't watch it at all,

[19:16] partly because

[19:17] I feel like

[19:18] I've gotten to a point

[19:19] now,

[19:19] like the same way

[19:20] that there's like

[19:20] this Great Expectations

[19:21] mini-series

[19:22] that's out now.

[19:23] And there's like,

[19:24] I used to be like,

[19:24] oh,

[19:24] I want to see that

[19:25] new version of the story

[19:26] I like,

[19:26] but I've gotten to the

[19:27] point now where I'm like,

[19:28] I love that old version

[19:29] of it.

[19:29] I don't love it

[19:30] because of the story,

[19:31] for Black Narcissus at least.

[19:32] I love it because

[19:33] of the way they make

[19:33] that movie.

[19:34] So I'm not really

[19:35] that interested in how

[19:36] someone who's not

[19:36] Powell and Pressburger

[19:37] make it,

[19:38] but I've heard good

[19:38] things about that

[19:39] mini-series.

[19:40] But I would say

[19:41] it is not,

[19:41] I'm not saying

[19:42] don't watch it,

[19:43] but I'm not saying

[19:43] that's not my

[19:44] recommendation,

[19:45] it's that mini-series.

[19:45] My recommendation

[19:46] is The Movie

[19:47] from 1947.

Dan McCoy

[19:49] This next one,

[19:50] so we started out

[19:51] with very little

[19:53] information.

[19:53] This one includes

[19:54] diagrams.

Stuart Wellington

[19:55] I feel really proud

[19:57] about this one.

Elliott Kalan

[19:58] Yeah, me too.

[19:59] I feel like I've got

[20:00] a good one for this.

[20:01] The other two

[20:02] I recommended

[20:03] were crap.

[20:03] Those were bad

[20:04] recommendations.

[20:04] I gotta admit,

Dan McCoy

[20:05] the diagram system

[20:07] is helpful,

[20:08] but let's get into it.

[20:09] So this is from

[20:09] Aaron,

[20:10] last name withheld,

[20:11] who says,

[20:12] hey Peaches,

[20:12] first time,

[20:13] long time,

[20:13] et cetera.

[20:14] Since I have found

[20:15] myself aligned

[20:16] with each of your

[20:16] movie tastes

[20:17] over the years,

[20:18] I thought the way

[20:19] I would approach

[20:19] the question

[20:20] would be to give

[20:21] each of you

[20:22] a constellation

[20:23] of three movies

[20:24] that I like,

[20:25] and I think that are

[20:26] in your respective

[20:27] wheelhouses,

[20:28] and ask you to give

[20:29] me a recommendation

[20:30] for a film that is

[20:31] a good interpolation

[20:32] of the three.

[20:34] I hope this makes

[20:34] sense,

[20:35] and I've provided

[20:35] a diagram to help.

[20:37] If it doesn't make sense,

[20:38] then just think about

[20:38] what might complete

[20:39] a four-film DVD collection

[20:41] given the first three.

[20:42] Aaron,

[20:43] and there's a little

[20:44] diagram.

[20:45] It's kind of like

[20:45] a constellation,

[20:47] as he says,

[20:48] it's a triangle

[20:49] with movie one,

[20:50] movie two,

[20:51] and movie three

[20:51] at the points,

[20:52] and inside,

[20:53] it says,

[20:54] your recommendation here.

[20:56] So let's just do it

[20:57] in the order we have.

[20:59] Stu's constellation,

[21:01] movie one,

[21:02] Dread,

[21:03] 2012,

[21:04] movie two,

[21:05] Old Boy,

[21:06] 2003,

[21:07] movie three,

[21:09] Ex Machina,

[21:10] which appears to be

[21:11] where,

[21:12] oh no,

[21:13] I guess he's adding

[21:15] dates just to

[21:16] differentiate

[21:17] when there might be

[21:17] confusion.

[21:18] I was like,

[21:19] he seemed to lose

[21:19] interest in giving a date

[21:20] after the movie's

[21:21] Yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[21:22] that makes sense.

[21:23] Okay,

[21:23] so I feel like

[21:25] the center of those

[21:26] three,

[21:27] that diagram,

[21:28] the center of those

[21:28] three,

[21:29] is none other than

[21:31] Universal Soldier

[21:33] Day of Reckoning,

[21:34] the fourth movie

[21:35] in the franchise,

[21:36] because it's a

[21:37] revenge story,

[21:38] it's a movie that

[21:39] is set up by

[21:40] a home invasion

[21:40] by,

[21:42] what like,

[21:43] what are they,

[21:43] like,

[21:44] they're like

[21:45] walking corpse

[21:46] soldier guys,

[21:47] like the reanimated

[21:48] soldier corpses,

[21:49] reanimated soldier guys,

[21:50] which are kind of like

[21:51] robots in Ex Machina,

[21:53] that's science gone

[21:54] awry,

[21:55] and the hero,

[21:57] played by Scott Atkins,

[21:59] who is getting a lot

[22:00] of buzz right now

[22:00] because he's one of

[22:01] the baddies in the

[22:02] new John Wick movie,

[22:04] goes on a rampage

[22:05] to try and get revenge,

[22:08] Diaries Say,

[22:08] it's similar to Old Boy,

[22:09] and it's got action

[22:10] scenes that are

[22:12] bonkers and so

[22:13] violent and bloody,

[22:15] there's a scene in,

[22:16] like,

[22:16] a sporting goods store

[22:17] that is absolutely

[22:18] nuts,

[22:19] I highly recommend

[22:20] this,

[22:21] if you have any

[22:21] interest in seeing

[22:22] a very,

[22:23] violent,

[22:23] very strange

[22:25] action movie,

[22:26] I highly recommend

[22:27] Universal Soldier 4,

[22:29] which is the best

[22:30] in the franchise.

Dan McCoy

[22:32] Okay,

[22:33] so,

[22:34] next is my

[22:35] constellation,

[22:36] that's me,

[22:37] Dan,

[22:37] it says,

[22:38] movie one,

[22:39] The Sweet Smell of Success,

[22:41] two,

[22:41] Miller's Crossing,

[22:42] and three,

[22:44] Vertigo.

[22:45] So,

[22:46] this is one of these

[22:46] cases where I'm not

[22:47] going to say

[22:48] something

[22:48] unknown,

[22:51] really,

[22:51] but I felt like

[22:53] appropriate to me.

[22:55] Star Wars.

[22:57] Between the,

[22:57] I mean,

[22:58] that would blow

[22:58] people's minds

Elliott Kalan

[22:59] if they hadn't seen it.

[23:00] If they've never seen it?

[23:01] If they've never seen it?

Dan McCoy

[23:03] Between The Sweet Smell of Success,

[23:05] Miller's Crossing,

[23:05] and Vertigo,

[23:07] I,

[23:08] I sensed sort of a common

[23:10] tone of sort of

[23:12] romantic cynicism,

[23:14] I mean,

[23:15] which,

[23:16] you know,

[23:17] makes sense,

[23:17] like I think cynicism

[23:18] is kind of like

[23:20] romanticism that is

[23:21] hoping

[23:22] for

[23:23] the best,

[23:24] but fearing

[23:25] the worst,

[23:26] and often getting the worst.

Elliott Kalan

[23:28] It's romanticism

[23:29] getting defensive,

[23:30] yeah.

Dan McCoy

[23:31] Yeah,

[23:32] and

[23:32] they all sort of have

[23:34] a theme of

[23:35] corruption

[23:36] as well.

[23:37] I went with

[23:39] Touch of Evil,

[23:41] the Orson Welles film

[23:42] starring himself,

[23:44] Charlton Heston,

[23:45] Janet Leigh,

[23:46] and Marlena Dietrich

[23:47] from 1958.

[23:49] And a team Tamaroff.

[23:51] I feel like it shares,

[23:53] it shares the visual

[23:56] flair that all those movies have,

[23:58] and it has the same

[23:59] kind of tone

[24:00] of

[24:00] a story of

[24:02] sort of

[24:02] trying to

[24:03] make a way through

[24:05] a tangled

[24:06] cynical world

[24:08] and

[24:09] some people

[24:11] get through

[24:12] and some people

[24:12] don't.

[24:13] And that's all I'll say

[24:15] about that.

Stuart Wellington

[24:16] I mean,

[24:17] you know,

[24:17] we keep

[24:18] hemming and hawing

[24:19] about the fact that

[24:20] some of these are unknown,

[24:21] but I've never seen

[24:22] Touch of Evil.

[24:23] Partly,

[24:24] obviously,

[24:24] because I was too busy

[24:25] watching evil tunes

[24:27] last night.

[24:27] sure.

Dan McCoy

[24:28] You did have the choice.

[24:29] You could have seen either.

[24:31] There are two evil films

[24:32] in front of them.

[24:34] And one of them has tunes,

[24:35] the other one just says touches.

[24:36] He looked it up,

[24:37] he's like,

[24:38] does Touch of Evil

[24:38] have any tunes in it?

[24:40] And Google told him no.

Stuart Wellington

[24:41] And I'm like,

[24:42] it doesn't say it

[24:43] in the description,

[24:44] but maybe

[24:45] I'll have to go over

[24:46] to Reddit.

[24:46] I mean,

Elliott Kalan

[24:47] Dennis Weaver's performance,

[24:49] it's Dennis Weaver

[24:49] who owns the hotel, right?

[24:50] His performance

[24:51] is pretty cartoonish.

Dan McCoy

[24:52] Yeah.

[24:54] Well,

[24:54] anyway,

[24:54] Elliot's Constellation.

[24:56] Okay.

[24:56] I guess he doesn't own

[24:57] the hotel,

Elliott Kalan

[24:57] he works at the hotel.

[24:58] Okay.

[24:58] So yeah,

[24:58] what was my Constellation?

Dan McCoy

[25:00] Yeah.

[25:01] Elliot's Constellation.

[25:02] Movie one,

[25:02] Tokyo Story.

[25:04] Two,

[25:05] 12 Angry Men,

[25:06] 1957.

[25:08] Three,

[25:08] The Wages of Fear.

Elliott Kalan

[25:11] All right.

[25:12] So I think I've aced this one.

[25:14] What do these movies

[25:15] have in common?

[25:16] Wages of Fear

[25:17] and 12 Angry Men.

[25:18] They're both about

[25:19] angry men

[25:20] who are confronted

[25:21] with some kind of

[25:22] conflict,

[25:23] some kind of

[25:24] obstacle or struggle,

[25:26] either physical

[25:26] or emotional

[25:27] or in the case

[25:28] of Wages of Fear,

[25:29] both.

[25:29] And Tokyo Story

[25:30] is about

[25:31] people in Japan

[25:32] whose lives

[25:33] are not quite

[25:34] turning out

[25:35] the way they want it to

[25:36] and whereas

[25:36] each of these movies

[25:38] has a certain amount

[25:39] of realism to it.

[25:40] It's not,

[25:41] none of them are,

[25:42] Wages of Fear

[25:42] even considering

[25:43] it's a movie

[25:43] about trucks

[25:44] full of explosive chemicals.

[25:46] Although none of them

[25:47] feel sensational

[25:48] and so I think

[25:49] I aced this.

[25:50] I decided to go

[25:51] with a Japanese movie,

[25:52] why not?

[25:52] And I picked

[25:53] High and Low,

[25:54] Akira Kurosawa's

[25:55] High and Low

[25:56] starring Toshiro Mifune

[25:57] but don't let that

[25:58] blind you to the fact

[25:59] that it also features

[26:00] Tetsuya Nakadei,

[26:01] another one of Japan's

[26:02] great leading men

[26:03] although here he's

[26:03] in a supporting role.

[26:04] And High and Low

[26:05] is the story

[26:06] of a man who,

[26:07] Toshiro Mifune

[26:08] plays a man who

[26:09] is about to

[26:10] embark on the

[26:12] hostile takeover

[26:13] of a shoe company

[26:14] only to find out

[26:16] he's a rich man,

[26:17] he's about to risk

[26:17] everything,

[26:18] only to find out

[26:19] that his

[26:20] chauffeur's son

[26:21] has been kidnapped

[26:22] under the misapprehension

[26:24] on the part of the kidnappers

[26:25] that it was his son

[26:26] and now he's been

[26:26] faced with a ransom

[26:27] and is he going to

[26:28] pay this ransom

[26:29] for another man's son?

[26:31] What can he do

[26:32] and still live with himself?

[26:33] And it's a movie

[26:34] that is also kind of,

[26:37] especially for a

[26:37] three movie constellation

[26:38] challenge,

[26:39] is neatly divided up

[26:40] into three parts

[26:41] pretty much.

[26:41] The part where it's

[26:43] dealing with the ransom

[26:43] and the kidnapper,

[26:44] the police investigation

[26:45] and then the final

[26:46] confrontation

[26:47] between our

[26:48] high and low people.

[26:50] And it's all about

[26:51] life in a Japan

[26:53] of income inequality

[26:56] and social inequality.

[26:57] It is about

[26:58] the ethical struggles

[26:59] that one has to face

[27:00] when they are

[27:01] taken outside

[27:02] of their own

[27:03] comfort zone

[27:04] and it's super tense

[27:06] and it's shot beautifully.

[27:08] The opening of it

[27:09] is almost like

[27:09] the most tense play

[27:10] you've ever seen

[27:11] and then it keeps,

[27:12] the movie keeps

[27:12] kind of opening up

[27:13] and then it closes down again

[27:14] and it's just really good.

[27:16] So,

[27:16] high and low,

[27:17] Akira Kurosawa's version.

[27:18] There are other movies

[27:19] called high and low.

[27:20] I have not seen them.

[27:21] This is the one

[27:21] I'm talking about.

[27:22] And not sweet and low.

[27:23] That is a sweetener,

[27:24] an artificial sweetener

[27:25] and not sweet and low down

[27:26] which is a different movie.

[27:27] High and low.

Dan McCoy

[27:28] And not high and lowest.

[27:29] That's a comic strip.

[27:30] No,

Dan McCoy

[27:30] the least funny comic strip

Elliott Kalan

[27:31] maybe ever made.

Dan McCoy

[27:33] The sister of

[27:34] Beetle Bailey

[27:35] who lives in the suburbs.

[27:37] Now,

Stuart Wellington

[27:37] what if it was

[27:38] Kurosawa's high and lowest

[27:39] had been good?

Elliott Kalan

[27:41] Kurosawa's high and lowest

[27:42] would have been

[27:42] very interesting.

[27:43] I mean,

[27:44] Kurosawa was going to make

[27:45] runaway train

[27:46] at one point.

[27:47] So,

[27:47] you know the man has

[27:48] variety

[27:48] and has varied skills.

[27:51] Now,

[27:51] here's the thing.

[27:51] What if Beetle Bailey

[27:52] was the beetle in

[27:53] Sweeney Todd?

[27:54] How would that play

[27:55] be different?

[27:55] Instead of Beetle Bamford

[27:56] working for Judge Turpin,

[27:58] it was Beetle Bailey.

Dan McCoy

[27:58] I have tickets

[28:00] for Sweeney Todd

[28:01] this weekend

[28:02] after we move.

[28:03] Wow,

[28:04] dude,

[28:04] it's flexing on all you hoes.

[28:05] Because the reviews

[28:07] have been stellar

[28:08] for this revival.

[28:08] Yeah,

[28:09] I really want to see it.

Elliott Kalan

[28:10] I saw the last revival

[28:12] of Sweeney Todd.

[28:12] I saw it twice,

[28:13] but that wasn't a full revival.

[28:14] It wasn't a full scale,

[28:16] like the last Broadway revival.

[28:18] It wasn't like a full scale,

[28:19] full orchestration one.

[28:20] I really hope

[28:20] I get to see this one.

Stuart Wellington

[28:21] And this one has

[28:21] national treasure

[28:23] Allie Ashford in it,

[28:25] right?

[28:25] Yeah,

[28:25] yeah.

[28:25] Man,

[28:25] she is the best.

[28:28] Also,

[28:28] also Jay Grobes.

Dan McCoy

[28:30] And the kid

[28:31] from Stranger Things.

[28:32] Which one?

[28:33] That show's full of kids.

[28:35] They're all kids.

[28:35] Paul Reiser,

Elliott Kalan

[28:36] he's not a kid.

[28:37] Sean Astin,

Stuart Wellington

[28:38] he was a kid once.

Elliott Kalan

[28:39] It's true.

[28:40] But you need to jump up

[28:41] in the middle of the play

[28:42] and say,

[28:42] where's Beetle Bailey?

[28:44] Where's Beetle Bailey?

[28:45] Try to get a chant going.

Dan McCoy

[28:48] I can tell you right now

[28:50] that that attempt will fail.

Stuart Wellington

[28:54] Gang,

[28:54] as I mentioned right up top,

[28:56] we're right at the end

[28:57] of the MaxFun Drive.

[28:58] And if this is your first time here,

[29:00] the MaxFun Drive

[29:01] is the one time a year

[29:02] that we ask our listeners,

[29:04] you,

[29:05] for financial support.

[29:06] The Flophouse

[29:07] is primarily funded

[29:08] by listener support.

[29:10] That means us,

[29:11] me,

[29:12] Dan,

[29:12] Elliot.

[29:13] And in exchange

[29:14] by supporting us,

[29:16] supporters earn

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[29:18] and higher level

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[29:29] movie commentaries,

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[29:33] Your imagination

[29:34] just,

[29:35] oh,

[29:35] wow,

[29:35] it's nuts.

[29:36] Your voice is really

[29:37] selling these things.

[29:38] Yep.

[29:39] Plus,

[29:39] new and upgrading members

[29:41] will also earn

[29:41] additional rewards

[29:42] like show-specific stickers,

[29:45] an apron

[29:46] that's really cool

[29:47] and looked really great

[29:48] on Dan

[29:48] when he wore it

[29:49] the other night.

[29:49] It's a great,

[29:50] I'll say it again,

Elliott Kalan

[29:51] it's a great apron.

[29:51] I use it every day.

[29:53] It's a sturdy,

[29:54] comfortable,

[29:55] well-made apron

[29:55] that looks great.

Dan McCoy

[29:56] It's not,

[29:57] it doesn't,

[29:58] it's not just an apron,

[29:59] it's a great apron.

[30:02] All right,

[30:03] well,

[30:03] forget what I was going to say.

[30:04] Yeah,

Elliott Kalan

[30:04] just Alex,

[30:05] turn this episode,

Dan McCoy

[30:06] never release it.

[30:07] Alex looped me saying that

[30:09] and then turn it

[30:10] and give it a dumb beat.

Elliott Kalan

[30:12] Alex,

[30:12] if you can go,

[30:13] if you can hack

[30:13] into the US census records

[30:15] and delete Dan

[30:16] from existence,

[30:17] that would be great.

Stuart Wellington

[30:18] And certainly don't

[30:19] loop it up

[30:20] and turn it into

[30:20] a hot new dance song.

[30:22] Okay,

[30:22] so there's also

[30:23] a cookbook

[30:24] full of MaxFun hosts recipes,

[30:26] including a recipe

[30:27] from me and Dan.

[30:29] What?

[30:30] And did I mention

[30:31] that in addition

[30:32] to supporting the Flophouse,

[30:33] some of your money

[30:34] also goes to support

[30:35] the operation

[30:36] of the MaxFun network

[30:37] that is currently

[30:38] in the process

[30:38] of becoming

[30:39] entirely employee owned.

[30:42] In a world

[30:42] where media companies

[30:43] continue to get shittier

[30:45] and treat their employees

[30:46] and contributors

[30:47] worse and worse,

[30:49] Very true.

[30:50] know that by supporting us,

[30:51] you're supporting

[30:52] positive change

[30:53] in the world

[30:54] of entertainment,

[30:54] which is a big

[30:56] fucking deal.

[30:57] So why don't you

[30:58] head over to

[30:58] MaximumFun.org

[31:00] slash join

[31:01] and support us today.

[31:03] Please.

Dan McCoy

[31:06] Vice President,

[31:07] former Vice President

[31:08] current President

[31:09] Joe Biden,

[31:10] everyone.

[31:12] Sorry.

Stuart Wellington

[31:12] That's all I get,

[31:13] like big fucking deal.

Dan McCoy

[31:15] That's all I can think of.

[31:16] I'm sorry.

[31:16] I apologize.

[31:17] That was an oblique

[31:19] thing to say.

[31:20] Alex, loop that.

[31:21] Loop that.

[31:21] Alex, you can cut it out

[31:23] if you want to.

[31:23] That's a thing

[31:24] that can go.

[31:26] Hey,

[31:27] the next one

[31:28] is from

[31:30] Laurel,

[31:31] last name withheld.

[31:33] Laurel writes,

[31:34] Hello,

[31:34] Flop Stars.

[31:36] I've been listening

[31:36] for more than a decade now,

[31:38] but this is my first

[31:39] time writing in.

[31:40] The Flophouse

[31:41] was the first podcast

[31:42] I ever listened to

[31:43] after it was recommended

[31:44] by a man I had a crush on.

[31:47] Although I haven't spoken

[31:47] to the man in years,

[31:48] at least he gave me

[31:49] the Flophouse.

[31:50] I'd love to get

[31:51] some personalized

[31:52] recommendations from you.

[31:54] I mean,

[31:55] they're both listeners.

[31:56] I don't know why you.

[31:57] Oh, yeah.

[31:57] Sorry about that.

[31:58] I forgot he was a listener.

[32:00] I normally.

Elliott Kalan

[32:01] Sorry I said that.

[32:01] Would you consider

[32:02] pledging

[32:02] maximumfun.org

Stuart Wellington

[32:04] slash join?

[32:05] Yeah,

[32:05] it's not like you,

[32:06] he's like,

[32:06] yeah,

[32:07] you should check out

[32:07] this podcast

[32:08] to wipe your ass.

Dan McCoy

[32:10] We apologize

[32:13] to every man

[32:14] who may have

[32:15] recommended a podcast

[32:16] at some point

[32:17] who's listening.

[32:20] I mean,

[32:21] not other podcasts.

[32:22] Fuck those guys.

[32:25] I normally gravitate.

[32:26] Keep qualifying it.

[32:27] I normally gravitate

[32:29] to movies

[32:29] that move

[32:30] at a slower pace,

[32:32] particularly those

[32:32] that are woman-led.

[32:34] Some examples include

[32:35] Brooklyn,

[32:36] Spirited Away,

[32:37] Persepolis,

[32:38] Midsommar,

[32:39] and Roma.

[32:40] My favorite movies

[32:41] from the past year

[32:42] were Women Talking

[32:43] and Marcel the Shell

[32:45] with Shoes On.

[32:47] Very similar

[32:47] in some ways.

[32:49] I also enjoy

[32:50] lighthearted musicals

[32:51] like In the Heights

[32:52] and Yesterday

[32:53] and Hated La La Land.

[32:56] Looking forward

[32:56] to hearing what

[32:57] you have to recommend.

[32:58] Laurel,

[32:59] last name withheld.

[33:01] I got one

[33:02] that I think

[33:02] is genuinely underseen

[33:04] and I think

[33:05] might be the ticket.

[33:06] It's called

[33:06] Marjorie Prime.

[33:09] It's from 2017.

[33:11] It was directed

[33:12] by Michael Almereta.

[33:15] I hope I

[33:16] said that correctly.

[33:17] It's about

[33:17] an elderly woman

[33:18] who uses a service

[33:19] that creates

[33:20] a holographic

[33:21] projection

[33:21] of a young

[33:22] version of

[33:22] her deceased

[33:23] husband.

[33:25] It stars

[33:26] Lois Smith

[33:28] as the older

[33:29] woman

[33:29] with this

[33:30] holographic

[33:31] companion.

[33:32] It's based

[33:33] on a play

[33:34] and I've

[33:36] seen people

[33:36] reviews for it.

[33:38] I loved it.

[33:39] I've seen reviews

[33:40] for it from

[33:40] elsewhere.

[33:41] They're like,

[33:41] oh,

[33:42] it's too much

[33:42] like a play.

[33:43] But sometimes

[33:44] I feel like

[33:44] that's okay

[33:45] in movies.

[33:46] I feel like

[33:46] we have a very

[33:46] restrictive view.

[33:48] there are ways

[33:48] to sort of

[33:49] embrace the fact

[33:50] that it's

[33:52] like a play

[33:54] and not

[33:55] run away from it.

[33:56] I feel like

[33:57] sometimes movies

[33:58] fail by running

[33:59] away from the

[33:59] essential qualities

[34:00] of a play.

Elliott Kalan

[34:02] Yeah,

[34:02] as long as it's the

[34:02] best way to tell

[34:03] the story,

[34:04] who cares if it's

[34:05] like a play?

Dan McCoy

[34:06] Yeah.

[34:07] But,

[34:07] so,

[34:09] yeah,

[34:10] it's got

[34:10] Lois Smith,

[34:11] like I said,

[34:12] Jon Hamm is in it.

[34:14] Tim Robbins

[34:15] and Geena Davis

[34:15] show up

[34:17] and it's good

[34:17] to see their

[34:17] faces again.

[34:20] Haven't been

[34:21] doing a lot.

[34:23] Audrey also

[34:24] was,

[34:25] no,

[34:25] I'm saying

[34:26] I miss them

[34:27] as performers.

[34:27] I'm not trying

[34:28] to insult

[34:29] either of them.

[34:30] He was the

[34:31] player,

[34:32] Elliot.

Elliott Kalan

[34:33] I'm not,

[34:34] I'm not,

[34:34] she was on

[34:35] Cutthroat Island.

[34:36] the dubious look

[34:37] on my face

[34:37] was only the idea

[34:38] that they're not

[34:38] doing a lot

[34:39] because they do

[34:40] work.

Stuart Wellington

[34:41] I,

[34:42] Geena Davis

[34:42] does all that

[34:43] charity work,

Dan McCoy

[34:44] right?

[34:44] I just,

[34:45] you know,

[34:45] there are people

[34:48] I'm fond of

[34:49] who had bigger

[34:49] parts in movies

[34:50] past who I

[34:51] don't see that

[34:51] much.

[34:52] That's all I'm

[34:53] saying.

[34:53] I'm not saying

[34:53] they don't work.

[34:55] Anyway.

Elliott Kalan

[34:56] You're just,

[34:56] you're just mad

[34:57] that Earth Girls

[34:57] are complicated

[34:58] now.

[34:59] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[35:00] That's Geena Davis.

[35:01] Also,

[35:02] I wanted to say

[35:02] that,

[35:03] you know,

[35:04] I was looking

[35:05] over these

[35:05] and thinking

[35:05] about them

[35:06] while Audrey

[35:07] happened to be

[35:08] around.

[35:08] And I have not

[35:09] seen this movie,

[35:09] but she suggested

[35:10] Petite Maman

[35:11] for this one,

[35:12] which sounded like

[35:13] from everything

[35:14] I've read about it,

[35:15] sounds like it

[35:15] might be right up

[35:16] your alley.

[35:16] I haven't seen

Stuart Wellington

[35:16] that yet

[35:17] and I really

[35:17] want to.

[35:17] By my girl

[35:18] Celine.

[35:20] What do you guys

[35:21] have?

[35:23] Yeah.

[35:23] I mean,

[35:24] obviously,

[35:25] I would have

[35:26] recommended

[35:26] Portrait of a

[35:27] Lady on Fire,

[35:28] but I recommend

[35:28] that all the time.

[35:29] I love that movie.

[35:30] I'm crazy for it.

[35:31] So I'm going to

[35:31] recommend a movie

[35:31] that's a little

[35:32] more stewardy.

Dan McCoy

[35:35] It's called

[35:36] Castle Freak.

Stuart Wellington

[35:37] You know how much

[35:38] energy,

[35:40] like how much

[35:41] effort it required

[35:41] for me not to

[35:42] just answer

[35:43] Castle Freak

[35:43] for all six weeks.

[35:45] I was so tempted.

Dan McCoy

[35:47] I mean,

[35:48] I did see a twinkle

[35:49] in Stuart's eye

[35:49] when I mentioned

[35:50] that we were

[35:50] doing this before

[35:51] that I was like,

[35:52] is he going to do that?

Stuart Wellington

[35:53] You're like,

[35:54] how much of a stinker

[35:55] is Stuart?

[35:57] Is he a little stinker

Dan McCoy

[35:58] or is he a big stinker?

[35:59] Well,

Elliott Kalan

[36:00] Stuart,

[36:00] you can take a break

[36:01] from stinkering

[36:01] since I think

[36:02] as you showed us

[36:03] or was it Dan showed us,

[36:04] Paul Schrader

[36:05] on Wikipedia

[36:06] was now listed

[36:06] as the director

Stuart Wellington

[36:07] of Heart Beeps.

[36:08] Oh, wow.

[36:09] That's weird.

[36:10] I'm glad that reality

[36:11] matches my perception.

Dan McCoy

[36:13] A big stinker.

Stuart Wellington

[36:15] Yeah,

[36:16] what will happen

[36:17] when I start using

[36:18] my stinker powers

[36:19] for good, guys?

[36:20] Who knows?

[36:21] Sky's the limit.

Dan McCoy

[36:22] Stinker suicide squad.

Stuart Wellington

[36:25] Suicide stinks, yeah.

[36:27] I think it would be

[36:28] stinkicide squad.

[36:30] Okay,

[36:30] so I'm going to recommend

[36:31] a movie

[36:33] that's a little bit slow.

[36:34] It's Woman Led

[36:36] and reminds me

[36:38] of some of the movies

[36:38] that she mentioned.

[36:40] a movie from 2009

[36:42] directed by Ty West

[36:43] called House of the Devil.

[36:45] It's about a young

[36:47] college student

[36:48] who gets hired

[36:49] to babysit,

[36:50] but it immediately

[36:51] gets weird

[36:52] and she spends

[36:53] most of the movie

[36:54] just wandering around

[36:55] a spooky old house

[36:56] before it gets

[36:57] very terrifying.

[36:59] It does also feature

[37:01] Tom Noonan

[37:02] who is always

[37:02] welcome to see

[37:03] and it also features

[37:05] director of Lady Bird

[37:05] Greta Gerwig.

[37:08] Whoa, whoa.

[37:08] It's great.

[37:09] It's part of that

[37:10] whole mumble gore

[37:11] family of movies.

[37:13] You know,

[37:14] the Joe Swanberg

[37:15] and Adam Wingard

[37:16] and all those guys.

[37:19] It's,

[37:19] so if you're looking

[37:20] for like a quiet,

[37:21] interesting,

[37:22] kind of slow

[37:23] and scary horror movie

[37:25] that I feel like

[37:26] probably influenced

[37:27] a lot of the

[37:28] current generation

[37:29] of indie horror

[37:30] that is popping up,

[37:31] check out

[37:32] The House of the Devil.

Elliott Kalan

[37:35] another scary movie,

[37:36] but this one's not

[37:37] horror scary.

[37:38] It's scary in that

[37:39] it's a real situation

[37:40] that is scary to be in

[37:42] and that is the movie

[37:44] Wendy and Lucy

[37:45] directed by Kelly Reichardt.

[37:47] Reichardt,

[37:47] who you may know her from,

[37:49] she did,

[37:49] what,

[37:49] First Cow recently?

[37:51] Yeah.

[37:51] She also did the movie

[37:52] Old Joy.

[37:53] She's done a,

[37:54] she's had a bunch of movies.

[37:54] Meek's Cut Off

[37:55] is another one of hers

[37:56] that I like a lot.

[37:57] This is a story

[37:58] starring Michelle Williams

[37:59] as Wendy.

[38:00] She is a homeless woman

[38:01] who is traveling

[38:02] with her dog Lucy

[38:03] and,

[38:04] it's a really

[38:05] heartbreaking movie

[38:06] about how

[38:07] when you don't

[38:07] have resources,

[38:09] a relatively small

[38:11] problem

[38:12] can become a catastrophe

[38:13] and lead to

[38:15] your life

[38:15] dissolving around you

[38:16] and Michelle Williams

[38:18] is really great in it.

[38:19] The movie is really

[38:19] understated,

[38:20] but it still has

[38:21] this feeling of like

[38:22] kind of inevitable dread

[38:24] throughout it

[38:25] and it's just,

[38:26] it's a really,

[38:27] it's really good

[38:28] and it's just

[38:28] super heartbreaking.

[38:29] It's slow.

[38:29] It takes its time.

[38:30] It's not a,

[38:31] it's not one of those

[38:32] fast cutting,

[38:34] you know,

[38:34] hyper intense movies

[38:35] about a homeless woman

[38:36] who's losing possession

[38:37] of her dog.

[38:38] You know,

[38:39] it's not taken

[38:39] with a dog,

[38:40] you know,

[38:41] but,

[38:42] but that's what

[38:43] I would recommend

[38:43] for you,

[38:44] Laurel,

[38:44] Wendy and Lucy.

Dan McCoy

[38:46] And I recommend

[38:47] Taken with a dog

[38:49] as the title

[38:52] for our next

[38:53] collaborative screenplay.

[38:54] Taken with a dog.

Elliott Kalan

[38:56] That goes,

[38:57] I am taken

[38:58] with this dog.

[38:59] This dog.

[39:00] I just cannot

[39:01] stop thinking

[39:02] about this dog.

Dan McCoy

[39:04] Okay,

[39:05] well,

[39:05] we got another one here.

[39:07] It's from Kate,

[39:08] last name with Held,

[39:09] who writes,

[39:10] my hopefully fun

[39:11] bullet points

[39:12] of interest are,

[39:13] well,

[39:13] we'll be sure

[39:14] to internally judge

[39:15] these bullet points.

[39:17] Some of my favorite movies

[39:19] are Videodrome,

[39:21] True Stories,

[39:21] Army of Darkness,

[39:22] and Fire Walk With Me.

[39:24] I'm into musicals,

[39:25] schlock,

[39:26] and general silliness,

[39:27] and body horror.

[39:29] I will watch

[39:30] just about anything,

[39:31] but can only get

[39:32] my girlfriend

[39:33] to join me

[39:33] if the plot

[39:34] doesn't involve

[39:34] a lot of

[39:35] secondhand embarrassment.

[39:37] I have seen

[39:38] the Velocipastor

[39:39] over seven times

[39:40] and am really

[39:41] into dinosaurs.

[39:43] Thank you.

[39:44] From Kate.

Stuart Wellington

[39:45] Oh, man,

[39:46] Elliot's like,

[39:47] have you ever seen

[39:48] Jurassic Park?

[39:49] Yeah,

Dan McCoy

[39:50] are you champing

[39:51] at the bit

[39:52] to get in there?

[39:52] No,

[39:53] well,

Elliott Kalan

[39:53] the thing is,

[39:54] I was really stymied

[39:55] by this because I wanted

[39:56] to recommend

[39:56] a dinosaur movie,

[39:57] but other than

[39:58] Jurassic Park,

[39:59] which I'm sure

[39:59] Kate has seen,

[40:01] there's really not

[40:01] that many good movies

[40:02] about dinosaurs.

[40:02] I got a dino

[40:03] suggestion.

[40:04] Great,

[40:04] I'll delete

[40:04] my recommendation

Dan McCoy

[40:05] of Baby.

[40:06] I mean,

Elliott Kalan

[40:07] I was like,

[40:09] is it Baby

[40:10] of the Lost Legend

[40:11] or is it

[40:11] Tammy and the T-Rex?

[40:13] Tammy and the T-Rex

Dan McCoy

[40:13] is my recommendation.

[40:15] That's a good recommendation.

Elliott Kalan

[40:16] I was guessing,

[40:17] so why don't you

[40:17] talk about

[40:18] Tammy and the T-Rex?

Dan McCoy

[40:18] Well,

[40:19] it fits in

[40:21] with your enjoyment

[40:22] of schlock,

[40:24] general silliness,

[40:25] and body horror

[40:26] because it's about

[40:27] a girl

[40:29] whose boyfriend

[40:30] dies

[40:31] and then his brain

[40:32] gets put,

[40:33] well,

[40:33] he doesn't die,

[40:34] he dies because

[40:36] his brain,

[40:36] I guess,

[40:37] gets put into

[40:38] this robotic T-Rex.

[40:40] I can't remember

[40:40] the actual detail.

[40:41] That would kill you

[40:41] in real life,

[40:42] yeah.

[40:42] Yeah,

[40:42] yeah,

[40:42] yeah.

[40:43] So now,

[40:45] yeah,

[40:46] she's dating a dinosaur

[40:47] and she doesn't

[40:48] really let it stop her.

[40:50] That's an even better title.

Elliott Kalan

[40:51] She's dating a dinosaur

[40:53] is an even better title

[40:53] for the movie.

[40:54] It's true.

Dan McCoy

[40:56] So it's a love story

[40:57] between a gal

[40:59] and a dino

[41:00] and it has,

[41:01] if you watch

[41:02] the R-rated version,

[41:03] the cut that was

[41:04] originally supposed

[41:04] to be the movie

[41:05] and then got restored

[41:06] recently,

[41:07] it's got a lot of gore

[41:08] in it

[41:08] and it's a,

[41:09] yeah,

[41:10] it's a silly,

[41:11] schlocky horror comedy

[41:13] that I think,

[41:14] like,

[41:15] in the restored version,

[41:16] I never watched

[41:16] the old one.

[41:17] I always saw it

[41:18] on these lists

[41:18] of,

[41:19] like,

[41:19] bad movies.

[41:20] Like,

[41:21] I think Cammy the T-Rex

[41:22] knows exactly

[41:23] what it's doing.

[41:24] I don't,

[41:24] I don't think it's

[41:25] that kind of,

[41:26] like,

[41:26] bad movie.

[41:27] Like,

[41:27] there are elements

[41:28] that aren't up

[41:29] to the ultimate,

[41:30] you know,

[41:31] realization of the potential.

[41:33] Yeah,

[41:34] but it also is

[41:34] totally conscious

[41:35] of,

[41:36] like,

[41:36] how silly,

[41:37] like,

[41:37] it was a movie

[41:37] that was,

[41:38] I think,

[41:38] literally written

[41:40] in a weekend

[41:41] because someone involved

[41:43] had access to

[41:44] a dinosaur puppet.

[41:45] That's what I heard

[41:46] at least a long time ago

[41:49] when I read about

[41:50] Cammy the T-Rex.

[41:51] Actually,

Elliott Kalan

[41:51] that story gets

[41:52] mixed up a lot.

[41:53] They actually had

[41:53] access to a Tammy

Dan McCoy

[41:55] when they wrote

[41:56] the movie around that.

[41:57] Makes sense.

[41:58] Well,

[41:59] make sure all the other

[42:00] elements are as easy

[42:01] to realize as possible

[42:02] other than they read

[42:02] the script.

Elliott Kalan

[42:03] God damn it,

[42:04] Gary.

[42:04] What are you doing?

[42:05] The giant dinosaur?

Dan McCoy

[42:07] Okay,

[42:08] so that was my recommendation.

[42:09] I also had an alternate

[42:10] in case someone else

[42:11] said Tammy the T-Rex,

[42:12] which is just

[42:13] Phantom of the Paradise.

[42:14] I'll just mention it

[42:15] if you haven't seen it.

[42:16] You should watch it,

[42:17] but what do you guys have?

[42:17] Yeah,

[42:18] yeah,

Stuart Wellington

[42:18] yeah.

[42:18] I got to see that

[42:19] at least one of the masks

[42:21] from Phantom of the Paradise

[42:22] is in Guillermo del Toro's

[42:23] personal collection.

[42:25] Cool.

[42:28] something I think

[42:29] hits a lot of those criteria.

[42:31] It's by a big name director

[42:32] and it's his debut feature.

[42:34] That's right,

[42:35] Bad Taste by Peter Jackson.

[42:38] It is silly.

[42:40] It's schlocky.

[42:42] It's body horrific

[42:43] and it's very homemade.

[42:46] I think it took him,

[42:47] what,

[42:47] three years worth of Sundays

[42:49] to make this movie.

[42:50] At least,

[42:51] yeah.

[42:51] And he,

[42:52] like,

[42:52] made all the,

[42:53] like,

[42:53] he made all the creatures

[42:54] masks in his mom's oven.

[42:57] That's why they're shaped

[42:58] in a specific way.

[42:59] Like,

[42:59] all the guns are homemade.

[43:00] It's great.

[43:01] It is about

[43:02] an alien invasion on Earth

[43:03] and a squad of elite

[43:06] anti-alien task force guys

[43:08] in New Zealand

[43:09] who have to stop it.

[43:11] And it's so much fun

[43:12] and it's so interesting

[43:13] and clearly,

[43:14] you're watching this movie

[43:15] and you're like,

[43:16] oh,

[43:16] wow,

[43:17] this guy,

[43:17] this guy has it.

[43:20] And it's so much fun

[43:21] to see a filmmaker

[43:22] who clearly loves movies

[43:24] and clearly has a talent

[43:26] and a flair for it

[43:27] get to make this,

[43:28] like,

[43:29] tiny little movie.

[43:31] And,

[43:32] yeah,

[43:32] it's great.

[43:33] It's one of my favorite movies

[43:34] of all time.

[43:35] Highly recommend it.

[43:36] And it's gross.

Elliott Kalan

[43:37] It's a super fun movie

[43:38] and I don't know

[43:39] if this is the,

[43:40] this happens with every version of it,

[43:42] but if you watch the version

[43:43] that was on Amazon Prime,

[43:44] I don't know if it still is,

[43:45] and you have the captions on,

[43:47] for some reason,

[43:47] the captions describe

[43:48] the soundtrack,

[43:49] the musical soundtrack

[43:50] as you're watching it.

[43:51] That's great.

[43:51] So it'll be like,

[43:52] it'll be like tense,

[43:54] electronic music.

[43:55] And then it'll be like,

[43:56] it'll be like

[43:57] rat-a-tat timpani drums.

[43:59] And I was like,

[43:59] this is an amazing touchdown.

[44:01] I'm going to add to this

[44:01] that they're describing

[44:03] how the music sounds.

[44:05] I'm going to,

[44:05] so here's the thing.

[44:06] I have a double feature

[44:07] of movies to recommend.

[44:08] I couldn't think of it

[44:09] one I really want to recommend

[44:10] with dinosaurs,

[44:11] but this is one,

[44:13] a movie that,

[44:14] is it body horror?

[44:15] I'm not sure.

[44:15] There's two scenes in particular

[44:17] that are kind of body horror-ish,

[44:18] I guess,

[44:18] but it's a movie

[44:19] we've talked about a lot

[44:20] on the show.

[44:20] That's Possession

[44:21] from 1981,

[44:22] directed by Andrzej Zulawski.

[44:25] I'm not sure entirely

[44:26] how to pronounce his name,

[44:27] but starring Sam Neill

[44:28] and Isabella Johnny

[44:29] in one of her

[44:30] greatest performances.

[44:31] And it is the story

[44:33] of the disillusion

[44:34] of a marriage

[44:34] against a backdrop

[44:36] of spy stuff

[44:38] in Berlin

[44:39] and also

[44:41] what appears to be

[44:42] an alien creature

[44:43] that Isabella Johnny

[44:44] is leaving her husband for.

[44:46] And it's,

[44:47] there's not that much

[44:48] physical horror in it

[44:50] aside from

[44:51] two major scenes,

[44:52] but there's such a sense

[44:53] of incredible

[44:55] emotional creepiness

[44:56] throughout the entire thing.

[44:58] in the whole movie,

[44:59] it feels like you're watching

[45:00] a film that fell

[45:01] through another dimension.

[45:02] Like it's just different enough

[45:04] in everything that happens in it.

[45:06] And the other thing,

[45:07] you mentioned musicals

[45:08] and goofy stuff.

[45:09] So I would say,

[45:10] after Possession,

[45:11] then I want you to watch

[45:12] Dames from 1934.

[45:14] This is a Busby Berkeley musical

[45:15] with Dick Powell

[45:17] and Ruby Keillor

[45:18] and Guy Kibbe

[45:19] and Zazu Pitts,

[45:20] two of the great comedy

[45:21] supporting actors

[45:22] of the 30s are in there.

[45:23] And it's just a super goofy,

[45:27] it's the silliest

[45:28] of the Busby Berkeley movies.

[45:29] It's just super goofy and silly.

[45:31] There's a great number in it

[45:31] called The Girl with the Ironing Board,

[45:33] which takes place entirely

[45:34] at a turn of the century laundry

[45:35] where the women are all dancing

[45:38] with shirts and stuff.

[45:39] And it has the song

[45:42] I Only Have Eyes for You,

[45:43] which is just,

[45:43] the way they do it is beautiful.

[45:45] And it's where,

[45:46] if you remember in Gremlins 2,

[45:48] there's the part where

[45:49] there's a giant face

[45:51] of the Lady Gremlin

[45:52] and the eye irises open

[45:54] and then the Lady Gremlin

[45:55] comes out of it.

[45:56] That's taken right from this number.

[45:58] And so it's-

[45:59] Are you sure it wasn't

Stuart Wellington

[46:00] the other way around?

Elliott Kalan

[46:02] You know what?

[46:02] You're right, you're right.

[46:03] They Babyloned this

[46:05] and the movie from back then

[46:06] was inspired by the movie from now.

[46:08] So that's my double feature for you,

[46:11] Kate, is Possession and Dames.

Dan McCoy

[46:14] All right.

[46:15] Well, we got one more

[46:17] personalized-

[46:18] I think we're nailing

[46:19] the assignment today, guys.

[46:20] I think we're really crushing it.

Elliott Kalan

[46:21] Everyone's doing a great job.

[46:22] I just want to say,

[46:23] you guys put such thought into this.

[46:25] You've got great recommendations.

[46:26] I hope mine reach the same level

[46:27] and I hope our listeners

[46:28] are enjoying it.

[46:30] And I hope that they enjoy it so much

[46:31] that they go to

[46:32] MaximumFun.org

[46:32] slash join

[46:33] and pledge their support

[46:34] and maybe we'll do more of these.

[46:36] What do you think, guys?

[46:36] What do you think?

[46:37] Oh, maybe.

[46:37] More recommendations that are

[46:39] bespoke.

[46:42] Bespoke.

[46:43] Yeah.

Dan McCoy

[46:44] Okay.

[46:44] Well, this one is from Alex,

[46:49] in Dayton, Ohio.

[46:51] Who writes,

[46:52] Beaches,

[46:53] My cultural taste buds

[46:54] are blown out.

[46:56] Conventional narrative arcs

[46:57] bore me.

[46:58] I need my plots

[46:59] to be unpredictable,

[47:00] even broken,

[47:00] just to feel something.

[47:02] I can't tell the difference

[47:03] between ironic

[47:04] and sincere appreciation anymore.

[47:07] A few of my favorite movies

[47:08] of the 21st century are

[47:09] The Room,

[47:10] The Lighthouse,

[47:11] Cats,

[47:11] and Titane.

[47:12] Hit me with the weird shit, guys.

[47:14] Show me that the world

[47:15] still has a capacity

[47:16] to surprise.

[47:18] Yeah, that's from Alex

[47:19] in Dayton, Ohio.

[47:20] Man, I feel like

[47:21] Alex and I are in the same boat.

Elliott Kalan

[47:23] Yeah, because Dan's,

[47:24] I know Dan's in that boat.

[47:25] His taste buds don't taste anything

[47:26] entertainment-wise anymore.

[47:27] I'm really happy

[47:28] with my suggestion here.

[47:29] Alex, I don't know

[47:30] if you've seen this,

[47:31] maybe you have,

[47:31] but I wanted to recommend

[47:32] The Forbidden Room

[47:33] from 2015.

[47:34] That's a Guy Madden movie.

[47:36] And if you want a movie

[47:37] that's going to surprise you,

[47:38] The Forbidden Room

[47:39] will surprise you

[47:40] because it is constantly changing

[47:41] what movie it is.

[47:42] Every six minutes or so,

[47:45] you never quite know

[47:46] what you're going to expect from it.

[47:48] By the end,

[47:48] the movie itself

[47:49] is going bonkers

[47:50] all over the place.

[47:52] It has an original song

[47:53] by Sparks

[47:54] that is available nowhere else

[47:55] but in this movie.

[47:56] And I don't know

[47:57] if you're familiar

[47:58] with Guy Madden's work,

[47:59] but Guy Madden specializes

[48:00] in making movies

[48:01] that are modern movies

[48:03] but look like they were made

[48:04] a long time ago

[48:05] but are dealing

[48:05] with subject matter

[48:06] that they would not

[48:07] have dealt with

[48:07] in old, old movies.

[48:09] And it's got an amazing cast.

[48:12] Our old buddy Udo Kier

[48:13] appears in it as a guy.

[48:15] This is,

[48:15] I'll just tell you

[48:16] about this one sequence.

[48:16] This is the Sparks song.

[48:18] That features Udo Kier

[48:19] starring as a man

[48:20] who is so obsessed

[48:21] with butts

[48:22] that he keeps going

[48:23] to a doctor

[48:23] to have parts of his brain

[48:24] scraped out

[48:25] so that he doesn't become

[48:26] obsessed with butts anymore.

[48:28] And it's not working

[48:29] so he keeps having to get

[48:29] more and more

[48:30] of his brain scraped out.

[48:31] This is just one,

[48:32] this is one short story

[48:34] in this movie.

[48:35] And it's,

[48:36] it's a really great,

[48:37] just,

[48:38] just bonkers movie.

[48:39] So that's

[48:39] The Forbidden Room,

[48:41] one of Guy Madden's

[48:43] more recent movies

[48:43] and just a,

[48:44] it's a,

[48:45] there's a lot of delight in it.

Dan McCoy

[48:47] Yeah,

[48:49] I mean,

[48:49] there was like

[48:49] a lot of sort of

[48:51] weirdo

[48:53] horror that I was thinking of,

[48:57] like stuff that

[48:58] you really ride

[49:00] that line

[49:01] where you're like,

[49:02] okay,

[49:03] I don't know if,

[49:04] like in,

[49:04] from one direction

[49:05] this is kind of brilliant.

[49:06] I don't know what

[49:07] their intention was.

[49:08] It also is

[49:09] total nonsense.

[49:11] And it's like,

[49:12] because everything else

[49:13] is working,

[49:15] you know,

[49:15] the nonsense translates

[49:16] as dream logic

[49:17] and it's kind of fascinating.

[49:19] There's a lot of stuff

[49:20] like that.

[49:21] I feel like this,

Stuart Wellington

[49:21] this one was

[49:22] tailor-made for Dan.

[49:23] Because you,

[49:24] I think out of the three of us,

[49:25] you have the most

[49:26] experience with like

[49:27] wacko

[49:29] stuff that you,

[49:31] it rides that line

[49:32] between great

[49:33] and totally horrible.

Dan McCoy

[49:34] Yes.

[49:35] And there's like stuff

[49:36] that occurred to me

[49:38] that I almost recommended.

[49:40] Paganini Horror,

[49:42] Nightmare Weekend,

[49:44] Boarding House.

[49:46] These are all,

[49:47] I think,

[49:48] classics of that type.

[49:49] I decided to go

[49:51] with a movie

[49:51] that I've recommended

[49:52] before on the podcast

[49:53] from 1993,

[49:55] Doppelganger,

[49:57] written,

[49:57] directed by

[49:58] Israeli filmmaker

[49:59] Abby Nesher

[49:59] starring a youngish

[50:01] Drew Barrymore

[50:02] like

[50:03] Ingenue Age

[50:04] who has

[50:06] possibly a doppelganger

[50:07] that's following around

[50:08] and causing

[50:09] murderous mayhem

[50:11] until

[50:12] a pair of

[50:14] double reveals

[50:15] at the end of the movie

[50:16] that are

[50:17] just the kind of

[50:19] like outlandish

[50:20] that I was talking about

[50:21] before.

[50:22] But,

[50:22] you know,

[50:24] it's a movie that

[50:25] really for me,

[50:26] I watch it

[50:27] and I'm like,

[50:28] can I say

[50:28] this isn't working

[50:29] because I'm enjoying

[50:30] it so much?

Elliott Kalan

[50:32] If you're genuinely

[50:33] getting pleasure from it,

[50:34] then it's working

[50:35] on some level,

[50:35] yeah.

Dan McCoy

[50:36] Yeah.

[50:37] That's the thing

[50:38] with kink, guys.

[50:41] Yeah,

[50:42] I mean,

[50:43] like there's not much

[50:43] else I want to say

[50:44] because saying it

[50:45] would spoil the experience,

[50:46] but I recommend it

[50:47] a lot.

Stuart Wellington

[50:49] a big messy movie

[50:50] that you might love

[50:52] or you might not

[50:53] like at all.

[50:55] Star Wars.

[50:55] I'm recommending

[50:56] a movie from 2006

[50:57] called Southland Tales.

[51:00] Oh,

[51:00] interesting.

[51:01] Interesting choice.

[51:02] I mean,

[51:03] I feel like this

[51:03] fits that like,

[51:05] you know,

[51:05] it was a long

[51:06] delayed movie.

[51:07] It was a long

[51:08] hyped movie.

[51:09] It was Richard Kelly's

[51:10] follow-up to Donnie Darko,

[51:11] right?

[51:12] Yeah.

[51:12] And there were like

[51:13] prequel comics

[51:15] and shit,

[51:16] I think.

Stuart Wellington

[51:16] It was supposed to be

Elliott Kalan

[51:17] the middle chapter

[51:18] of an enormous

[51:19] multimedia thing

[51:21] that there was going

[51:21] to be comics

[51:22] and I forgot

[51:22] what the other

[51:22] section of it was.

[51:24] It was a hugely

[51:25] ambitious thing

[51:25] and it means

[51:26] that the movie

[51:26] has no beginning

[51:27] and no real ending.

Stuart Wellington

[51:29] And it's set

[51:30] in like a futuristic

[51:31] Los Angeles.

[51:32] It's kind of this

[51:33] like ensemble story

[51:34] where characters

[51:36] are all doing

[51:37] all kinds of crazy stuff.

Elliott Kalan

[51:38] John Lovitz

[51:39] is like a corrupt

[51:40] bad cop

[51:41] and Wallace Shawn

[51:43] is supposed to be

[51:43] a real sexy character.

[51:44] Like he was

[51:45] deliberately casting

[51:46] people against type

[51:47] in the movies.

[51:48] Like The Rock

[51:48] is a real nervous,

[51:49] anxious guy

[51:50] and it's a,

[51:51] yeah.

Stuart Wellington

[51:52] it's,

[51:53] and there's like

[51:53] musical numbers.

[51:55] It's,

[51:55] yeah,

[51:56] it's one of those

[51:56] things where,

[51:58] yeah,

[51:59] for somebody

[52:00] who is,

[52:00] you know,

[52:01] an explorer

[52:02] on the far reaches

[52:03] of cinema experience.

[52:05] The line between

[52:05] pain and pleasure.

[52:06] Yeah,

[52:07] this might exactly

[52:08] be for you

[52:09] or you might not

[52:10] like it at all

[52:10] like many people

[52:11] at the time did.

Elliott Kalan

[52:12] Honestly,

[52:13] that's a movie

[52:13] where I remember

[52:14] seeing that in the theaters

[52:14] being super excited

[52:15] because I really loved

[52:16] Donnie Darko

[52:17] and not liking it at all

[52:18] except for

[52:19] John Lovitz

[52:20] and The Rock's

[52:21] performances in them.

[52:22] And I think that

[52:23] if I watched it now

[52:24] without the baggage of,

[52:26] oh,

[52:26] this is the new movie

[52:27] from the guy

[52:28] who made Donnie Darko,

[52:28] I think I might like it a lot.

[52:30] It's such a bonkers movie.

[52:31] Yeah,

Dan McCoy

[52:31] I'm in that same boat.

[52:33] I haven't watched it since.

[52:34] Like,

[52:34] there was enough

[52:35] of a growing like,

[52:37] hey,

[52:37] is this good actually

[52:38] contingent

[52:39] that I watched it

[52:39] but I also,

[52:41] I think I was still

[52:41] in that disappointment mode

[52:43] whereas now,

Stuart Wellington

[52:45] I feel like it's gotten

[52:46] a bit of cultural

[52:47] re-evaluation.

[52:49] Mm-hmm.

Dan McCoy

[52:50] But yeah,

[52:51] I mean,

[52:52] Stuart kind of said it before

[52:54] but like,

[52:55] if you watch these movies,

[52:58] like,

[52:59] write us back.

[52:59] Let us know

[53:00] about the recommendations.

[53:01] If you just,

[53:02] like,

[53:02] if you only find time

[53:03] for one

[53:04] or you've seen

[53:05] some of the movies,

[53:06] like,

[53:06] let us know then

[53:07] or let us know

[53:08] if you program

[53:10] a film festival

[53:11] of three movies,

[53:13] one from each of us

[53:15] and,

[53:15] you know,

[53:18] like,

[53:18] let us know

[53:18] how we did.

[53:21] Yeah.

[53:21] I would be very curious.

Stuart Wellington

[53:22] Did we nail it?

[53:23] Did we nail it?

[53:25] Guys,

[53:26] as I've mentioned before,

[53:27] this is the last show

[53:28] of the 2023 MaxFun Drive

[53:32] and it's been

[53:33] a really great drive so far.

[53:34] We've had Twitch streams.

[53:37] I think Dan participated

[53:38] in some kind of pancake contest.

[53:41] No more details.

[53:42] A very special,

[53:43] we've had,

[53:44] we had a very special episode.

[53:46] Yeah.

[53:46] We had a very special episode

[53:48] of the Peach Pit.

[53:50] There's been some great

[53:51] bonus content dropped

[53:52] and all that is possible

[53:54] because of your support.

[53:56] So I just want to take

[53:57] this last break

[53:58] to deeply

[53:58] and sincerely thank

[54:00] all of our supporters.

[54:01] You make this show possible.

[54:04] All three of us

[54:05] have faced

[54:05] various financial

[54:07] turbulence

[54:07] over the years

[54:08] and thanks to you,

[54:10] we've been able

[54:11] to continue making

[54:11] this fun,

[54:13] silly show

[54:13] a priority

[54:14] in our lives.

[54:16] Very literally,

[54:17] you keep food

[54:18] in Elliot's children's mouths.

[54:20] Yes.

Elliott Kalan

[54:20] A roof.

[54:20] And it goes into their stomach.

[54:22] It doesn't just stay

[54:22] in the mouth.

[54:23] It goes down the throat

Stuart Wellington

[54:24] into the stomach.

[54:24] Oh, thank God.

[54:25] You keep a roof

[54:26] over Dan's head.

[54:28] Okay.

[54:28] And protein powder

[54:30] in my belly.

[54:31] Seems less important.

[54:33] It's the only nutrition

[54:35] he gets these days.

[54:36] I guess so.

[54:37] Not based on my DMs, Dan.

[54:40] We love you

[54:42] and we are so lucky

[54:43] to have found

[54:44] such a funny,

[54:45] dedicated,

[54:47] talented,

[54:47] and generous audience.

[54:49] From the bottom

[54:50] of our hearts,

[54:50] we thank you.

[54:51] And one more time,

[54:53] if you'd like to support

[54:54] the Flophouse,

[54:55] please head over

[54:56] to maximumfun.org

[54:57] slash join.

[55:00] Beautifully said.

[55:01] Beautifully said.

Dan McCoy

[55:02] Yes, thank you.

[55:04] And thank you

[55:05] to all the listeners

[55:05] who wrote in

[55:07] and got recommendations.

[55:09] I think that this is something,

[55:11] like we have a lot

[55:11] of extra ones

[55:12] that we didn't get to.

[55:13] I think this is something

[55:13] that we will revisit

[55:14] in the future

[55:15] and I will get to

[55:17] maybe some of the

[55:18] other ones

[55:19] that didn't wind up

[55:21] in this batch.

[55:22] Yeah.

[55:22] This was fun.

[55:24] Yeah.

[55:24] Thank you, listeners.

[55:25] It made us think

[55:26] a little bit.

[55:26] And we got to talk

[55:27] about movies we like.

[55:29] Yeah.

[55:30] Yeah.

[55:31] And thanks to

[55:32] Alex Smith,

[55:33] our producer.

[55:34] He is

[55:34] at Howell Dottie

[55:36] on various socials.

[55:39] But for this episode

[55:40] of the Flophouse,

[55:41] I've been Dan McCoy.

[55:43] I'm Stuart Wellington.

Elliott Kalan

[55:44] And I'm Ellie Kalin.

[55:47] Bye.

[55:47] I remembered my name

[55:48] that time.

[55:55] MaximumFun.org.

Dan McCoy

[55:56] Comedy and culture.

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[55:58] Artist owned.

[55:59] Audience supported.

FH Mini 77 - The Flop House: Movie Doctors

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