FH Mini 41 - If it Ain't Brokaw Dune Fix It

[0:00] So I was watching

Stuart Wellington

[0:04] 10 Things I Hate About You today

[0:07] and

[0:07] Sure

[0:08] Classic Halloween film

[0:10] Are there

[0:11] are there prop houses

[0:13] in LA

[0:14] that specifically

[0:15] do

[0:17] school desks

[0:19] but sized for adults

[0:20] because

Dan McCoy

[0:21] I think that's for the podcast

[0:23] the prop house

[0:24] not the flop house

[0:25] Stuart

Stuart Wellington

[0:26] Well fucking prop house

[0:28] fucking FaceTime me

[0:29] right now

[0:30] I got my phone on

[0:31] just waiting for your FaceTime

Elliott Kalan

[0:32] Yeah no that's a good

[0:33] I mean adults

[0:34] and high school students

[0:35] are not that

[0:35] dissimilarly sized

[0:37] Yeah

Stuart Wellington

[0:38] I think you have not

[0:40] when was the last time

[0:41] you tried to sit

[0:41] in one of those desks

[0:42] I think I was 17

[0:43] the last time

[0:44] I was sitting in one of those desks

[0:45] I think you can remember exactly

[0:46] Cool save

[0:47] I definitely sat in one

[0:51] when I

[0:51] I was trying to be

[0:53] I was trying to be a teacher

[0:54] I was misguided

[0:55] and

[0:56] it was tough man

[0:57] it was tough to fit in that

[0:58] cram my

[0:59] cram my

[1:00] well you know that the teachers

[1:01] don't really sit

[1:02] cram my big wiener and balls

[1:03] into that chair

[1:04] Wow

[1:04] teachers usually have bigger desks

[1:05] they don't usually sit

[1:06] in the little student desks

[1:07] I mean I did a little

[1:08] they didn't give me the offer

[1:09] like I had to sit in the desk

[1:11] for the like interview process

[1:12] oh I see

[1:13] oh okay

[1:13] I was like

[1:14] I did a little substitute teaching

Elliott Kalan

[1:15] and I never sat

[1:16] in the kids desk

Elliott Kalan

[1:16] I didn't get that far

[1:18] I thought you were like

[1:19] hey let's break down the barriers

[1:20] I'm not any better than you

[1:21] why should I have this big desk

[1:22] I'll sit in one of your

[1:23] teeny weeny desks

Stuart Wellington

[1:24] well it's like one of those

[1:25] one of those Broadway shows

[1:27] where like you suddenly realize

[1:28] that the whole cast

[1:29] is like hidden in the audience

[1:31] where like all the kids

[1:33] are like looking around

[1:34] like where's the student

[1:35] where's the teacher

[1:36] it's just us students here

[1:37] and I whip off my fucking beret

[1:39] and my half cape

[1:41] and I'm like

[1:41] I'm not one of you cool kids

[1:44] it's me Stuart

Elliott Kalan

[1:45] okay

[1:46] in that voice huh

[1:47] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[1:48] yeah I was trying something new

[1:50] I mean they all made fun of me

[1:51] and I left

[1:52] uh

[1:53] crying

[1:54] well I feel like we've started

Elliott Kalan

[1:56] the episode already

[1:56] uh

[1:57] that's fine

[1:58] I'll just mention that uh

[2:00] uh

[2:00] this is

[2:01] welcome to Flophouse

[2:02] this is a mini week

[2:03] when we do not talk about

[2:05] a movie that we watched

[2:06] but instead

[2:07] just kind of do whatever

[2:09] I of course am

[2:10] the rotating

[2:11] host for

[2:12] this episode

[2:13] my name is Elliot Kalin

[2:14] and joining me

[2:15] are my co-hosts

[2:16] who have also taken their turn

[2:18] hosting minis

[2:19] and they are

[2:20] Dan McCoy

[2:21] Stuart Wellington

[2:23] and guys

[2:25] uh

[2:25] I've got a very exciting

[2:26] mini for you today

[2:27] people may remember my

[2:28] Elliot explains the

[2:29] Eternals episode

[2:30] from um

[2:31] whenever that was

[2:33] uh

[2:33] I don't remember

[2:35] anything about it

[2:36] okay

[2:36] well all you need to know

[2:38] is uh

[2:38] the Eternals are

[2:39] fairly dull

[2:40] uh

[2:41] but I'm sure the movie

[2:42] will be very exciting

[2:42] uh

[2:43] so

[2:43] I was super excited

[2:45] recently

[2:45] when I learned

[2:47] of the casting

[2:48] of

[2:48] well

[2:49] not super excited

[2:49] let's say

[2:50] I was intrigued

[2:51] casting of Will Poulter

[2:52] as Adam Warlock

[2:53] in Guardians of the Galaxy 3

[2:55] Adam Warlock

[2:55] is one of my favorite

[2:56] Marvel characters

[2:57] of course my favoritest

[2:58] is Spider-Man

[2:59] but uh

[3:00] Adam Warlock

[3:01] might be

[3:01] number two

[3:02] and he's a character

[3:03] a lot of people

[3:03] don't know

[3:04] he's a very uh

[3:05] he's an interesting character

[3:06] he's kind of the closest

[3:07] that Marvel Universe

[3:07] has to Elric

[3:09] of Mel Niboney

[3:10] uh

[3:10] the Michael Morgan character

Tom Brokaw

[3:11] doesn't clear it up

[3:12] anymore for me

Elliott Kalan

[3:13] now that I think

[3:14] I've

[3:14] now that I think

[3:15] I've explained him

[3:15] in terms we all

[3:16] understand

[3:17] um

[3:17] it's time for

[3:19] uh

[3:20] something I'm gonna call

[3:21] Elliot Explains

[3:22] Adam Warlock

[3:23] so here's the

[3:24] Elliot Explains

[3:24] Adam Warlock

[3:25] song

[3:25] sometimes people

[3:27] don't know about

[3:28] Adam Warlock

[3:29] like me

[3:30] don't worry pal

[3:31] I'm gonna tell you

[3:32] all about Warlock

[3:34] from New Mutants

[3:35] no

[3:35] a different character

[3:36] named Warlock

[3:37] he's got a first name

[3:38] Adam

[3:39] so here we go

[3:41] I'm gonna show

[3:42] you all about

[3:43] Adam Warlock

[3:43] wait hold on

[3:44] did you guys hear

[3:45] hold on a second

[3:46] wait

[3:47] no

[3:48] someone was knocking

[3:49] at my door

[3:50] hold on a second

[3:50] oh dear

[3:51] yeah

[3:54] okay

[3:55] uh

[3:57] yeah I guess so

[3:58] okay yeah

[3:59] sorry

[3:59] guys I apologize

[4:01] uh

[4:02] something's come up

[4:02] we're not gonna be able

[4:03] to do the Elliot Explains

[4:04] Adam Warlock episode

[4:05] uh

[4:06] someone just walked in

[4:08] he wanted to talk to you guys

[4:09] uh

[4:09] he should probably

[4:10] introduce himself

Tom Brokaw

[4:11] well hello gentlemen

[4:12] it's me

[4:14] Tom Brokaw

[4:15] America's

[4:16] favorite newsman

[4:17] and

[4:17] I have to say

[4:19] I had to come here

[4:20] from my

[4:20] complex in

[4:21] Bozeman Montana

[4:22] when I heard

[4:23] that Elliot

[4:24] was hoping

[4:25] to do a

[4:26] Flophouse Mini

[4:27] without

[4:27] asking me

[4:29] to join

[4:29] and talk about

[4:30] the movie event

[4:31] of the third millennium

[4:32] that's right

[4:33] the new adaption

[4:34] of Dune

[4:36] uh

[4:36] the movie event

[4:37] of the second millennium

[4:38] of course

[4:38] was the

[4:38] oh it's Tom Brokaw

[4:39] yeah

[4:39] it was the 1984

[4:40] adaptation of Dune

[4:41] and the movie event

[4:43] of the first millennium

[4:44] was

[4:45] the bible

[4:46] I guess

[4:46] uh

[4:47] Dan

[4:47] do you have any

[4:48] questions

[4:49] uh

[4:50] now that I'm

[4:50] here

[4:50] I very much

[4:52] wanted to talk

[4:52] about the film

[4:53] Dune

[4:54] which opened

[4:55] in theaters

[4:55] the weekend

[4:56] before we record

[4:57] this

[4:57] uh

[4:58] yes Daniel

Dan McCoy

[4:58] before you

[4:59] uh

[4:59] do that

[5:00] uh

[5:00] maybe you

[5:01] should just

[5:01] explain to our

[5:02] younger listeners

[5:03] who the hell

[5:03] you are

[5:04] just

[5:04] just because

[5:06] they may only

[5:07] know you as a

[5:07] a Dune fanatic

Tom Brokaw

[5:09] uh

[5:10] it's

[5:10] I mean

[5:10] at this point

[5:11] that is pretty

[5:11] much my

[5:12] full-time

[5:13] occupation

[5:14] is spreading

[5:15] the gospel

[5:15] of Frank

[5:16] Herbert's

[5:16] uh

[5:17] brilliant

[5:17] Dune

[5:18] novel series

[5:19] but uh

[5:19] some may know

[5:20] me as the

[5:21] your

[5:21] ask your

[5:22] parents about

[5:23] me

[5:23] and they'll

[5:24] tell you

[5:24] that I was

[5:25] a long-time

[5:25] host of

[5:26] NBC Nightly

[5:27] News

[5:27] and perhaps

[5:28] the most

[5:29] trusted man

[5:30] in

[5:30] American

[5:31] broadcasting

[5:32] for quite

[5:33] some time

[5:33] I also

[5:34] co-wrote

[5:34] the uh

[5:35] bestseller

[5:36] The Greatest

[5:37] Generation

[5:37] uh

[5:38] the story

[5:39] of the men

[5:39] and women

[5:40] who fought

[5:41] World War II

[5:42] it's an

[5:42] epic tale

[5:43] uh

[5:44] almost

[5:44] as exciting

[5:45] and as

[5:46] inspiring

[5:47] as that of

[5:48] Paul Atreides

[5:48] the heir

[5:49] of House Atreides

[5:50] as he makes

[5:51] his way from

[5:52] callow youth

[5:53] to the

[5:54] Quesats

[5:55] Haderach

[5:56] the one

[5:56] who is seeking

[5:58] to bring

[5:58] enlightenment

[5:59] to the universe

[5:59] but instead

[6:00] contributes only

[6:02] violence

[6:02] and conflict

[6:03] in the end

[6:04] and eventually

[6:05] has a descendant

[6:06] who becomes

[6:07] a big sandworm

[6:08] it's amazing

[6:09] in a later book

[6:10] uh

[6:11] so that's

[6:11] so that's me

[6:12] Tom Abroka

[6:13] but you

[6:13] perhaps

[6:14] know me

[6:14] best

[6:14] as

[6:15] Dunehead

[6:16] number one

[6:17] yep

Dan McCoy

[6:17] uh

[6:19] yeah

[6:20] I don't know

[6:21] I don't know

[6:21] anything about

[6:22] uh

[6:23] the story

[6:23] where it goes

[6:24] after the

[6:25] initial novel

[6:26] so this is

[6:26] interesting

[6:27] throw out

Tom Brokaw

[6:28] everything you think

[6:30] you know about

[6:30] Dune Dan

[6:31] or Dan Dune

[6:32] or Dune's Berry

[6:33] which I was

[6:34] very disappointed

[6:35] to discover

[6:36] years ago

[6:36] was not a

[6:37] comic strip

[6:37] adaptation

[6:38] of Dune

[6:38] the novel

[6:39] or in fact

[6:40] a delicious

[6:40] berry

[6:41] which when

[6:42] you ate it

[6:42] gave you the

[6:43] knowledge of

[6:43] the Dune series

[6:44] it is in fact

[6:45] a political

[6:45] comic strip

[6:46] following a

[6:47] ever expanding

[6:48] cast of characters

[6:49] as they

[6:50] just live in

[6:51] this modern

[6:52] America

[6:52] but Dan

[6:53] so it's a

[6:54] it's an amazing

[6:56] ride

[6:56] I highly

[6:57] I highly

[6:58] advise you

[6:58] to take it

[6:59] and if you

[7:00] gentlemen

[7:00] have no

[7:01] objection

[7:02] I think it's

[7:03] time for another

[7:03] installment of my

[7:04] recurring segment

[7:05] if it ain't a

[7:07] brokaw

[7:07] Dune fix it

[7:08] sure

[7:10] I guess we can

Stuart Wellington

[7:12] so I'm assuming

[7:14] you saw this in the

[7:14] movie there

[7:15] because you want

[7:15] the full experience

[7:16] right

Tom Brokaw

[7:16] I did not see it

[7:18] well that

[7:18] I did watch it

[7:20] both in the theater

[7:21] and at home

[7:22] to see if it was a

[7:23] full second

[7:24] screen experience

[7:25] the second screen

[7:26] was an iPad

[7:27] with Dune playing

[7:28] on it

[7:29] as I watched

[7:29] Dune on my

[7:30] large television

[7:31] I call my iPad

[7:32] my small television

[7:33] and my regular

[7:34] television

[7:35] my large

[7:35] television

[7:36] I refer to

[7:37] movie screens

[7:38] as a

[7:38] big big

[7:39] television

[7:39] so I did

[7:40] see it first

[7:41] on the

[7:41] big big

[7:41] television

[7:42] first by

[7:43] myself

[7:44] secondly with

[7:45] my wife

[7:45] Lorraine Bracco

[7:46] and then

[7:47] third I saw

[7:48] it in 4D

[7:49] where your chair

[7:49] shakes when the

[7:50] spaceships are

[7:51] going up and

[7:52] down

[7:52] then I watched

[7:53] it at home

[7:53] on the

[7:54] small television

[7:54] and also the

[7:55] teeny tiny

[7:56] television

[7:57] is that what

[7:57] I called them

[7:58] before I don't

[7:58] remember

[7:59] but yes

[8:00] I've seen it

[8:01] a few times

[8:01] now

[8:02] in the past

[8:03] few days

[8:03] what was your

Stuart Wellington

[8:05] what was your

[8:06] snack of

[8:07] choice

Tom Brokaw

[8:07] well I

[8:09] wanted to

[8:10] say to

[8:10] myself

[8:10] what would

[8:11] they eat

[8:11] in the

[8:12] world of

[8:12] Dune

[8:13] so of course

[8:14] I had a

[8:14] tube going

[8:15] into my

[8:15] mouth

[8:15] that was

[8:16] attached to

[8:16] my own

[8:17] sweat glands

[8:17] so I could

[8:18] recycle my

[8:19] moisture like

[8:21] the fremen

[8:21] on Arrakis

[8:22] would do

[8:22] and otherwise

[8:24] there's not a lot

[8:25] of food in

[8:25] Dune

[8:26] and so I

[8:27] mostly ate

[8:27] sand

[8:28] and worms

[8:29] just a big

[8:32] bowl of worms

[8:32] and sand

[8:33] I wouldn't

[8:33] recommend it

[8:34] sounds delicious

Stuart Wellington

[8:37] okay cool

Dan McCoy

[8:37] when one uses

[8:39] the spice

[8:40] as a drug

[8:41] rather than

[8:42] a means

[8:43] of interstellar

[8:44] travel

[8:44] do you eat

[8:45] that

[8:45] or is that

[8:46] do you inhale

[8:48] it

[8:48] I was unclear

[8:49] about that

[8:50] element

[8:50] of the

[8:51] grains

[8:51] of the spice

Tom Brokaw

[8:52] are so small

[8:52] that

[8:53] it's

[8:54] more trouble

[8:55] not to

[8:56] inhale them

[8:56] and that is

[8:57] why

[8:57] it suffuses

[8:58] the air

[8:58] of the planet

[8:59] and if you

[8:59] spend too

[9:00] much time

[9:00] on Arrakis

[9:01] you will

[9:01] become a

[9:02] spice addict

[9:02] who cannot

[9:03] live for long

[9:04] outside of

[9:05] the planet

[9:06] itself

[9:07] without a

[9:08] supply

[9:08] of

[9:09] spice

[9:10] spice

[9:11] melange

[9:12] yeah

[9:12] it must

[9:13] blow

[9:13] did either

[9:15] either of

[9:15] you

[9:15] and I

[9:16] know this

[9:16] is a

[9:17] foolish

[9:17] question

[9:17] did either

[9:18] of you

[9:18] see the

[9:19] film

[9:19] of course

[9:20] knowing

[9:20] that it

[9:21] is a

[9:21] it was

[9:22] perhaps

[9:22] the defining

[9:23] cultural

[9:23] event

[9:24] of our

[9:24] generation

[9:25] I

[9:25] include

[9:26] you both

[9:26] in my

[9:27] generation

[9:27] although I

[9:28] am roughly

[9:28] 30 years

[9:29] older than

[9:29] you

Dan McCoy

[9:30] well I

[9:32] saw it

[9:32] yeah I

[9:33] saw it

[9:33] two days

[9:34] ago

[9:34] Stuart did

[9:35] you see

[9:35] it

[9:35] I have

[9:36] tickets to

[9:37] see it

[9:37] tomorrow

Stuart Wellington

[9:37] but

[9:38] last night

[9:38] I played

[9:39] Dune

[9:39] Imperium

[9:40] the board

[9:41] game version

[9:41] of the

[9:42] movie

[9:42] I played

[9:43] the role

[9:43] of Paul

[9:44] Atreides

[9:44] and I

[9:45] lost

[9:45] to

[9:46] the

[9:47] Harkonnens

Tom Brokaw

[9:48] well

[9:48] spoiler alert

[9:49] that's

[9:50] not what

[9:50] happens in

[9:51] the story

[9:51] I

[9:53] apologize

[9:53] I will

[9:54] have many

[9:55] spoilers to

[9:55] talk about

[9:56] I'm sure

[9:56] but to be

[9:57] honest

[9:57] if you haven't

[9:58] read Dune

[9:58] by now

[9:59] are you even

[10:00] really human

[10:00] probably not

[10:01] and so I

[10:02] have no

[10:02] compunction

[10:03] about spoiling

[10:03] a story

[10:04] you should

[10:04] have read

[10:05] I also

[10:05] just looked

[10:05] myself up

[10:06] on Wikipedia

[10:06] and realized

[10:07] I am about

[10:07] 40 years

[10:08] older than

[10:08] you

[10:09] not 30

[10:10] years

[10:10] and still

[10:10] I consider

[10:11] us all the

[10:12] same generation

[10:12] generation

[10:13] Dune

[10:13] those of us

[10:14] who are here

[10:15] for the year

[10:15] 1 AD

[10:16] that is

[10:17] after Dune

[10:18] which all

[10:19] time will

[10:19] be considered

[10:20] from now

[10:20] on

[10:20] now

[10:21] Daniel

[10:22] and

[10:22] Stuart

[10:23] you did

[10:23] see the

[10:24] movie

[10:24] before

[10:24] playing the

[10:25] game

[10:25] or you

[10:25] did not

Stuart Wellington

[10:25] I have

[10:26] not seen

[10:26] the movie

[10:27] yet

[10:27] although I

[10:27] did hear

[10:28] we did get

[10:29] some good

[10:29] news today

[10:30] Dune 2

[10:31] it's on the

[10:32] way

[10:32] it was

[10:32] announced

[10:33] today

Tom Brokaw

[10:33] Dune

[10:35] part 2

[10:36] will be

[10:36] coming to

[10:37] theaters

[10:37] in the year

[10:38] 2023

[10:39] and

[10:40] very long

[10:42] time to

[10:42] wait

[10:42] to find

[10:43] the

[10:43] ending

[10:44] of the

[10:44] series

[10:45] but

[10:45] you know

[10:46] I feel

[10:47] like they

[10:47] made the

[10:48] right choice

[10:48] by splitting

[10:49] the film

[10:49] into two

[10:50] so that you

[10:50] could really

[10:51] spend a lot

[10:52] of time

[10:52] walking through

[10:53] the desert

[10:53] just looking

[10:54] at how

[10:55] beige

[10:55] everything is

[10:56] Dan

[10:57] what were

[10:57] your thoughts

[10:58] about the

[10:58] film

[10:58] I know

[10:59] what my

[10:59] thoughts

[10:59] are

[11:00] what are

[11:00] yours

Dan McCoy

[11:01] well

[11:01] you know

[11:02] I've

[11:02] read the

[11:03] book

[11:03] once

[11:03] the first

[11:04] book

[11:04] it seemed

[11:05] to be

[11:05] a pretty

[11:06] faithful

[11:09] adaptation

[11:09] of the

[11:10] first

[11:10] half

[11:10] of the

[11:11] first

[11:11] book

[11:11] I found

[11:13] it a

[11:14] little

[11:14] bloodless

[11:15] it didn't

Tom Brokaw

[11:15] bother you

[11:16] that there

[11:16] were no

[11:16] quotes from

[11:17] the princess

[11:17] of Ruland

[11:18] telling us

[11:19] about the

[11:20] future of

[11:21] Maud

[11:21] Div

[11:21] oh that's

Dan McCoy

[11:22] right

[11:22] there are

[11:23] those little

[11:23] quotes that

[11:24] enter the

[11:25] thing

[11:25] you can

Tom Brokaw

[11:25] call them

[11:25] little

[11:26] quotes

[11:26] I think

[11:26] they

[11:26] encompass

[11:27] a galaxy

[11:28] of wisdom

Dan McCoy

[11:28] that's

[11:29] true

[11:30] I forgot

[11:31] about that

[11:31] element

[11:31] I thought

[11:34] it was a

[11:35] very

[11:35] beautiful

[11:36] movie

[11:37] I liked

[11:37] Oscar Isaac

[11:38] and Rebecca

[11:39] Ferguson's

[11:40] performances

[11:40] what

[11:41] you love

[11:41] two great

[11:42] actors

[11:42] yeah

[11:43] they're

[11:43] they are

[11:44] I found

[11:47] it a little

[11:48] bit of a

[11:49] pretty

[11:50] it's like

[11:52] looking at a

[11:53] very pretty

[11:53] diorama that

[11:54] I wasn't

[11:55] that engaged

[11:56] by

[11:56] narratively

[11:57] but I

[11:59] enjoyed it

[11:59] quite a bit

Tom Brokaw

[12:00] I understand

[12:00] that you

[12:01] have to keep

[12:01] in mind

[12:02] that inevitably

[12:03] any adaptation

[12:03] of Frank

[12:04] Herbert's work

[12:05] is akin

[12:05] to looking

[12:06] at the world

[12:07] through a keyhole

[12:07] there's only

[12:08] so much

[12:09] they can

[12:09] provide

[12:10] of the

[12:10] macrocosm

[12:11] that exists

[12:12] within that

[12:13] beautiful tale

Elliott Kalan

[12:14] so at least

Tom Brokaw

[12:16] you felt

[12:17] like you were

[12:18] enjoying the

[12:19] experience

[12:19] even if it

[12:20] didn't

[12:20] enrapture you

[12:21] the way that

[12:22] say

[12:22] the book

[12:23] Dune

[12:23] might

Dan McCoy

[12:24] I enjoyed

[12:25] the first

[12:26] two hours

[12:26] and then was

[12:27] kind of bored

[12:28] by the last

[12:28] 30 minutes

[12:29] so you weren't

Tom Brokaw

[12:30] as much

[12:31] of a fan

[12:31] of the scenes

[12:32] where they were

[12:32] just walking

[12:32] through the sand

Dan McCoy

[12:33] I have to

Tom Brokaw

[12:38] admit that

[12:39] I had a few

[12:40] similar thoughts

[12:41] about it

[12:42] I thought it

[12:42] was a very

[12:43] fine adaptation

[12:44] of the film

[12:45] there I did

[12:46] not mind

[12:47] walking through

[12:49] the sand

[12:49] but at the

[12:50] same time

[12:50] I did have

[12:51] to leave

[12:52] the theater

[12:53] very briefly

[12:54] during that

[12:54] sequence

[12:55] perhaps I was

[12:56] overcome

[12:56] by seeing

[12:58] this world

[12:58] brought to life

[12:59] before me

[12:59] perhaps I had

[13:00] had just

[13:01] too much

[13:01] Coca-Cola

[13:02] and had to

[13:03] eject the

[13:04] extra fluid

[13:05] from my

[13:06] bladder

[13:06] that was

[13:06] in fact

[13:07] what happened

[13:07] and I

[13:08] remember

[13:08] being angry

[13:10] at my own

[13:10] urine stream

[13:11] at how long

[13:11] it was taking

[13:12] to leave my

[13:13] body

[13:13] and get me

[13:14] back into

[13:15] the theater

[13:15] perhaps if I

[13:16] had been

[13:16] wearing a

[13:17] still suit

[13:17] I would have

[13:18] just let it

[13:19] flow

[13:19] knowing it

[13:20] would come

[13:20] back to me

[13:21] as drinkable

[13:21] water

[13:22] and stayed

[13:22] in my seat

[13:23] watching the

[13:24] film

[13:24] the strange

[13:26] thing is that

[13:26] I did not

[13:27] learn my

[13:28] lesson

[13:28] and had to

[13:29] leave to use

[13:29] the bathroom

[13:29] at the same

[13:30] exact point

[13:31] every time

[13:31] I watched

[13:32] the film

[13:32] and I

[13:34] had it

[13:34] on my

[13:35] phone

[13:35] to watch

[13:36] it

[13:36] that sequence

[13:38] while I was

[13:39] using the

[13:39] bathroom

[13:40] and yet

[13:41] somehow I

[13:41] still managed

[13:42] to miss

[13:42] the scene

[13:43] I suppose

[13:44] it was hard

[13:44] to hold

[13:45] my own

[13:45] manhood

[13:46] and hold

[13:46] the phone

[13:47] steady

[13:47] and watch

[13:48] the screen

[13:49] without

[13:49] causing

[13:50] quite a mess

[13:50] and so

[13:51] there is a

[13:52] sequence

[13:52] when he was

[13:53] walking

[13:53] through the

[13:54] sand

[13:54] that I

[13:54] was not

[13:55] completely

[13:55] privy to

[13:56] but keeping

[13:57] that in

[13:57] mind

[13:58] I feel

[13:58] like I

[13:58] got the

[13:59] gist

[13:59] of the

[13:59] major

[14:00] narrative

Stuart Wellington

[14:00] probably

[14:03] I think

[14:03] you're safe

Tom Brokaw

[14:04] yeah

[14:04] now you

[14:05] mentioned

[14:05] Oscar Isaac

[14:06] and Rebecca

[14:07] Ferguson

[14:07] did you

[14:08] have trouble

[14:09] did you

[14:09] not approve

[14:10] of the

[14:10] other

[14:10] performances

[14:11] in the

[14:11] film

[14:12] I thought

[14:12] Timothy

[14:13] Charaway

[14:14] acquitted

[14:15] himself

[14:15] quite fine

[14:16] and Zendaya

[14:17] did what

[14:18] she could

[14:18] with a

[14:19] role

[14:19] that was

[14:19] essentially

[14:19] just her

[14:20] looking at

[14:21] the camera

[14:21] with her

[14:22] hair

[14:22] blowing

[14:22] around

[14:22] her

Dan McCoy

[14:23] yeah

[14:23] the

[14:25] marketing

[14:26] of this

[14:26] has

[14:26] foregrounded

[14:27] Zendaya

[14:28] and that

[14:28] you know

[14:29] she's a

[14:29] wonderful

[14:30] very charismatic

[14:32] actress and

[14:33] personality

[14:34] I understand

[14:34] why they

[14:34] would do

[14:35] that

[14:35] but yes

[14:35] I can

[14:37] only assume

[14:37] that

[14:38] because her

[14:40] character

[14:40] doesn't

[14:42] come into

[14:42] the book

[14:43] until after

[14:44] what the

[14:45] movie covers

[14:45] they were

[14:46] like

[14:46] hmm

[14:47] how can

[14:48] we

[14:48] shoehorn

[14:49] as much

[14:50] of this

[14:51] charismatic

[14:51] performer

[14:52] into our

[14:53] movie as

[14:54] possible

[14:54] let's just

[14:55] have a bunch

[14:55] of flash

[14:56] forwards

[14:56] of her

[14:57] sort of

[14:57] yeah

[14:58] looking wistful

[14:59] in front of

[15:00] the sunlight

Tom Brokaw

[15:00] yeah the amount

[15:01] of screen time

[15:02] she has as

[15:02] Channy

[15:03] it was not

[15:04] enough yet

[15:04] to topple

[15:05] her as

[15:05] Michi

[15:06] in my

[15:06] particular

[15:07] understanding

[15:08] of Zendaya's

[15:09] career

[15:09] now Stuart

[15:11] when you were

[15:11] playing Dune

[15:12] Imperium

[15:13] what was it

[15:14] that you felt

[15:14] lost you

[15:15] the game

[15:16] how did you

[15:17] fail as

[15:18] Paul Atreides

[15:19] as he could

[15:19] very well

[15:20] fail

[15:20] if he takes

[15:21] the wrong

[15:21] path and

[15:22] makes the

[15:22] wrong

[15:22] decision

Stuart Wellington

[15:23] my

[15:25] I had

[15:26] made

[15:27] a play

[15:28] for

[15:29] the

[15:30] for

[15:31] in a battle

[15:31] and I thought

[15:32] I had won

[15:33] it but I

[15:34] was betrayed

[15:35] by another

[15:36] player who

[15:37] won the

[15:38] battle but

[15:39] ended up losing

[15:40] both of us

[15:40] the game

[15:41] so I guess

[15:41] I'd focus

[15:42] too much

[15:42] on military

[15:43] strength

Tom Brokaw

[15:44] it seems

[15:45] like you

[15:46] in a way

[15:46] lived the

[15:47] experience

[15:48] not of

[15:48] Paul but

[15:49] of Duke

[15:50] Leto

[15:50] after having

[15:52] put his

[15:52] faith into

[15:53] his doctor

[15:54] only to be

[15:55] Dr. Wellington

[15:55] Yeu

[15:56] played by

[15:56] Chen Chen

[15:57] only to be

[15:58] betrayed

[15:59] spoiler alert

[16:00] but again

[16:00] you should have

[16:01] read the book

[16:01] by now

[16:02] you should know

[16:02] these things

[16:03] are happening

[16:03] or seen

[16:04] the other

[16:04] movie

[16:04] the one

[16:06] directed by

[16:07] Alan Smithy

[16:07] a talented

[16:09] young director

[16:09] I don't know

[16:10] what else

[16:11] he's done

[16:11] but he did

[16:12] a fine job

[16:13] with the

[16:13] 1984

[16:14] he did

[16:14] Burn

Dan McCoy

[16:14] Hollywood

[16:15] Burn

[16:15] an Alan

[16:16] Smithy

[16:16] film

[16:17] I'm not

Tom Brokaw

[16:18] familiar with it

[16:19] is it like

[16:20] Dune

[16:20] well

Dan McCoy

[16:22] they were both

[16:24] not successful

Tom Brokaw

[16:25] I would say

[16:27] that the Dune

[16:27] from 1984

[16:28] is successful

[16:28] on its own

[16:29] terms

[16:29] which is

[16:30] as a

[16:30] crazy

[16:31] kind of

[16:31] spaghetti

[16:32] mess

[16:32] of a movie

Dan McCoy

[16:33] I mean

[16:34] I imagine

[16:35] in a larger

[16:36] sort of

[16:38] financial sense

Tom Brokaw

[16:39] yes

[16:39] I think

[16:40] part of the

[16:41] problem

[16:41] was in

[16:41] their

[16:42] of the

[16:43] Dune series

[16:44] it was

[16:44] very much

[16:45] in 1984

[16:46] seen as a

[16:47] new

[16:47] kind of

[16:47] Star War

[16:48] and it is

[16:49] very much

[16:50] not a

[16:50] Star War

[16:50] now

[16:51] this movie

[16:52] on the other

[16:52] hand

[16:52] one of the

[16:53] few issues

[16:54] I had

[16:54] with it

[16:55] was that

[16:55] it could

[16:56] have used

[16:56] a little

[16:57] bit more

[16:57] of that

[16:57] kind of

[16:58] Star War

[16:59] joy

[16:59] it's a

[17:00] very bleak

[17:00] movie

[17:01] and a

[17:01] very

[17:04] downbeat

[17:04] movie

[17:05] very

[17:05] dour

[17:06] if my

[17:06] screening

[17:07] had not

[17:07] followed

[17:07] the trailer

[17:08] for the

[17:08] new

[17:08] Batman

[17:09] movie

[17:09] which

[17:10] seems

[17:10] like

[17:10] a true

[17:11] descent

[17:11] into

[17:11] hell

[17:12] a

[17:12] grim

[17:13] vision

[17:14] of a

[17:14] world

[17:14] in which

[17:15] no one

[17:15] exists

[17:16] but

[17:16] criminals

[17:16] and

[17:16] victims

[17:17] and in

[17:17] which

[17:18] the

[17:18] supposed

[17:18] hero

[17:19] Batman

[17:19] is

[17:20] invulnerable

[17:20] and wades

[17:21] through bullet

[17:22] fire to

[17:22] smash men's

[17:23] heads

[17:23] against

[17:24] walls

[17:24] truly

[17:24] it made

[17:25] my

[17:25] tummy

[17:26] hurt

[17:26] and

[17:27] made me

[17:28] wonder

[17:28] what was

[17:28] happening

[17:29] in the

[17:29] America

[17:30] I did so

[17:31] much to

[17:31] chronicle

[17:31] in my

[17:32] career

[17:32] when

[17:33] this is

[17:33] the kind

[17:34] of

[17:34] escapist

[17:35] entertainment

[17:35] we're

[17:35] looking for

[17:36] when the

[17:36] hero literally

[17:37] says

[17:37] I'm

[17:38] vengeance

[17:38] and then

[17:39] the last

[17:40] image

[17:42] is him

[17:42] walking

[17:43] towards a

[17:44] burning car

[17:44] in order to

[17:45] beat a man

[17:46] to a pulp

[17:46] it seems

[17:47] like not the

[17:48] Batman

[17:48] I knew

[17:49] and fell

[17:50] in love

[17:50] with

[17:50] when Adam

[17:51] West

[17:51] played him

[17:52] I don't

[17:52] remember any

[17:53] episodes of the

[17:53] old show

[17:54] where Adam

[17:54] West beat a

[17:55] man to a pulp

[17:55] or was shot

[17:56] point blank in

[17:57] the chest

[17:57] or told anyone

[17:58] that he was

[17:59] vengeance

[17:59] do you guys

[18:00] remember that

Stuart Wellington

[18:00] I don't

[18:02] I just remember

[18:04] the one where he

[18:05] runs around with a

[18:06] bomb

[18:06] that was

[18:07] hilarious

[18:07] that's the movie

[18:08] that's the

[18:09] 1966 film

[18:11] but it's the film

Tom Brokaw

[18:13] adaptation of the

[18:14] show

[18:14] I can only imagine

[18:15] that if the

[18:16] current Batman

[18:16] played by Robert

[18:17] Patterson

[18:18] was faced with

[18:19] a similar bomb

[18:20] problem

[18:21] he would

[18:21] take the bomb

[18:22] and slam it

[18:24] so hard

[18:24] into a bad

[18:25] man's head

[18:25] that the man's

[18:26] head would

[18:26] shatter

[18:27] and then the

[18:28] bomb would

[18:28] of course

[18:28] explode

[18:29] sending fragments

[18:30] into the bodies

[18:31] of several other

[18:32] people

[18:32] truly a horrible

[18:33] world that I

[18:34] cannot wait to

[18:35] not visit

[18:35] and not experience

[18:37] but you know me

[18:38] I'm kind of a

[18:39] geek

[18:39] incompletist

[18:40] so I may need

[18:42] to go see it

[18:42] and just wade

[18:44] through the

[18:44] bile and feces

[18:46] that is the new

[18:47] Batman movie

[18:47] certainly a river

[18:49] of sewage poured

[18:50] into multi-places

[18:51] nationwide

[18:51] but Dan I

[18:54] believe that

[18:55] there is a

[18:55] promo for this

[18:56] episode

[18:57] perhaps it's

[18:57] time to throw

[18:58] to it now

Dan McCoy

[18:58] sure right

[18:59] after a river

[19:00] of sewage

[19:00] this episode

[19:02] of the

[19:03] Flophouse

[19:03] nominally a

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Tom Brokaw

[19:49] taking the

[19:49] cat to

[19:50] the baseball

[19:50] game

Dan McCoy

[19:51] I'm just

[19:53] making a

[19:54] comparison

[19:54] I was

[19:55] going to

[19:55] say

[19:56] because

Tom Brokaw

[19:56] I would

[19:57] wonder

[19:57] would you

[19:58] have to

[19:58] buy a

[19:59] seat

[19:59] to place

[19:59] the carrier

[20:00] on it

[20:01] or are you

[20:01] putting it

[20:01] in your lap

[20:02] or are you

[20:03] just holding

[20:04] the cat

[20:04] because if

[20:05] so that

[20:05] is a

[20:06] very well

[20:06] trained

[20:06] cat

Stuart Wellington

[20:07] well there

[20:07] was that

[20:08] cat that

[20:08] ran across

[20:08] the field

[20:09] at what

[20:09] Yankee

[20:10] Stadium

[20:10] this season

[20:11] and that

[20:11] was the

[20:11] highlight

[20:12] of the

[20:12] game

[20:12] yeah

[20:13] maybe

[20:14] maybe

[20:15] you want

[20:15] maybe you

[20:16] want to

[20:16] bring your

[20:16] own

[20:17] highlight

[20:17] to the

[20:17] game

Dan McCoy

[20:18] yeah

[20:18] with the

[20:18] help of

[20:19] cat

[20:19] nutritionist

[20:20] smalls

[20:21] which is

[20:21] what we're

[20:21] advertising

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[20:23] or not

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[20:27] life stages

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[20:36] quality

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[20:38] healthier

[20:38] life

[20:39] for your

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[20:40] since

[20:40] switching

[20:40] to

[20:41] smalls

[20:41] cats

[20:42] have

[20:42] experienced

[20:43] improved

[20:43] digestion

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[20:45] smelly

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[20:46] box

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[20:50] and

[20:51] as a

[20:52] cat

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[21:02] it's just

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Tom Brokaw

[21:20] I will

[21:21] say

[21:21] I also

[21:22] am a

[21:23] fan

[21:23] I take

[21:24] very good

[21:25] care of

[21:25] my

[21:25] three

[21:26] cats

[21:26] Paul

[21:26] Cat

[21:26] Radies

[21:27] Dunk

[21:28] Cat

[21:28] Idaho

[21:28] and of

[21:28] course

[21:29] Baron

[21:30] Harkit

[21:30] and

[21:30] they're

[21:31] the

[21:31] loves

[21:31] of my

[21:32] life

[21:32] I

[21:32] just

[21:32] take

[21:33] look at

[21:33] my

[21:34] wife

[21:35] Lorraine

[21:35] Bracco

[21:35] sometimes

[21:36] jokes

[21:36] that I

[21:37] love the

[21:38] cats

[21:38] more than

[21:38] I love

[21:39] her

[21:39] which is

[21:39] of course

[21:40] a joke

[21:42] there's

[21:42] no one

[21:42] I love

[21:42] more

[21:43] than my

[21:43] wife

[21:43] Lorraine

[21:44] Bracco

[21:44] we call

[21:45] ourselves

[21:45] the

[21:45] Bracco

[21:46] Brocos

[21:46] or sometimes

[21:46] the

[21:47] Broco

[21:47] Brocos

[21:47] Do you

[21:48] call their

[21:49] litter box

[21:49] Arrakis?

[21:51] I would

[21:51] I feel like

[21:52] it would be

[21:52] a bit

[21:53] disrespectful

[21:53] to the

[21:54] planet

[21:54] itself

[21:55] to

[21:55] if there's

[21:56] more than

[21:56] just a

[21:57] place for

[21:57] my cats

[21:57] to deposit

[21:58] their waste

[21:59] but you

[21:59] know

[21:59] that's

[22:00] a funny

[22:00] idea

[22:01] and perhaps

[22:01] I'll

[22:01] bring it

[22:02] into my

[22:02] regular

[22:03] slang

[22:04] vocabulary

[22:04] during

[22:05] the day

[22:06] now

[22:08] I have

[22:08] let us

[22:09] know

[22:09] I will

[22:11] let you

[22:11] know

[22:11] I'll keep

[22:11] you updated

[22:12] on that

[22:12] as I

[22:13] fold that

[22:14] term into

[22:15] my regular

[22:16] cat box

[22:17] discourse

[22:18] perhaps I'll

[22:19] tell my

[22:19] wife

[22:20] Lorraine

[22:20] Rocco

[22:20] that I

[22:21] have to

[22:21] go and

[22:22] search

[22:24] Arrakis

[22:25] for Paul

[22:26] Katrades

[22:26] she'll

[22:27] know

[22:27] that I'm

[22:27] not

[22:28] really

[22:28] looking

[22:28] for

[22:28] the

[22:28] cat

[22:29] but

[22:29] for

[22:29] his

[22:30] waist

[22:30] sandworms

[22:31] well hello

S5

[22:37] I'm

[22:37] Renee

[22:37] Colvert

[22:38] hi

[22:38] I'm

[22:38] Alexis

[22:39] Preston

[22:39] and we

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[22:40] hosts

[22:40] of

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[22:41] Pet

[22:41] Your

[22:41] Dog

[22:41] and we

[22:42] got

[22:42] breaking

[22:42] news

[22:42] we

[22:43] got

[22:43] an

[22:43] expose

[22:43] and all

[22:44] the

[22:44] beans

[22:44] have

[22:44] been

[22:45] spilled

[22:45] via

[22:45] an

[22:46] Apple

[22:46] podcast

[22:47] review

[22:47] that

[22:48] said

[22:48] this

[22:48] show

[22:49] isn't

[22:49] well

[22:50] researched

[22:51] of course

[22:52] it's not

[22:53] not since

[22:53] the day

[22:54] we started

[22:54] hasn't been

[22:55] well researched

[22:55] guessing

[22:56] and

[22:56] anthropomorphizing

[22:58] dogs

[22:58] is what

[22:58] we do

[22:59] the

[22:59] Can I

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[23:00] Dog

[23:00] promise

[23:01] is that

[23:01] we

[23:02] will

[23:02] never

[23:02] do

[23:02] more

[23:03] than

[23:03] 10

[23:03] seconds

[23:03] of

[23:04] research

[23:04] before

[23:04] telling

[23:05] you

[23:05] excitedly

[23:05] about

[23:06] any

[23:06] dog

[23:06] we

[23:06] see

[23:06] I'm

[23:07] going

[23:07] to

[23:07] come

[23:07] at

[23:07] you

[23:07] with

[23:08] top

[23:08] 10

[23:08] enthusiasm

[23:09] minimal

[23:10] facts

[23:11] we're

[23:11] here

[23:11] for a

[23:11] good

[23:12] time

[23:12] not

[23:12] an

[23:12] educated

[23:12] time

[23:13] so

[23:13] if

[23:13] you

[23:13] love

[23:14] dogs

[23:14] and

[23:14] you

[23:14] don't

[23:15] love

[23:15] research

[23:15] well

[23:16] you

[23:16] know

[23:16] what

[23:16] come

[23:16] on

[23:17] in

[23:17] to

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[23:21] Bria

S6

[23:23] what's

[23:24] your

[23:24] reader

[23:24] wheelhouse

[23:25] a

[23:25] woman

[23:26] on

[23:26] a

[23:26] journey

[23:26] space

[23:27] post

[23:28] apocalyptic

[23:28] roads

[23:29] and

[23:29] magical

[23:29] food

[23:30] Mallory

[23:30] what's

[23:31] your

[23:31] reader

[23:31] wheelhouse

[23:32] werewolves

[23:33] haunted

[23:34] houses

[23:34] weird

[23:35] fiction

[23:35] and

[23:36] books

[23:37] set

[23:38] in

[23:38] Florida

[23:38] for

[23:38] some

[23:39] reason

[23:39] we're

[23:40] reading

[23:40] glasses

[23:41] and we

[23:41] want

[23:41] to

[23:41] know

[23:42] what

[23:42] your

[23:42] reader

[23:42] wheelhouse

[23:43] is

[23:44] find

[23:45] more

[23:45] books

[23:45] that

[23:46] you

[23:46] love

[23:46] and

[23:47] avoid

[23:47] books

[23:48] that

[23:48] you

[23:48] don't

[23:48] so

[23:48] whatever

[23:49] you

[23:49] like

[23:49] to

[23:49] read

[23:49] about

[23:50] and

[23:50] however

[23:50] you

[23:51] like

[23:51] to

[23:51] read

[23:51] it

[23:52] we

[23:52] want

[23:52] to

[23:52] help

[23:53] you

[23:53] read

[23:53] better

[23:54] reading

[23:54] glasses

[23:55] every

[23:55] Thursday

[23:55] on

[23:56] Maximum

[23:56] Fun

Tom Brokaw

[23:56] I enjoyed

[24:02] the film

[24:02] but as

[24:03] I have

[24:03] to say

[24:03] as I

[24:04] spent

[24:05] time

[24:05] away

[24:05] from

[24:05] it

[24:05] I

[24:06] did

[24:06] find

[24:06] things

[24:07] about

[24:07] it

[24:07] not

[24:08] totally

[24:08] sitting

[24:09] right

[24:09] for

[24:09] me

[24:09] and

[24:09] the

[24:09] main

[24:10] thing

[24:10] is

[24:10] somewhat

[24:11] the

[24:11] bleakness

[24:11] of

[24:11] it

[24:12] and

[24:12] the

[24:12] beige

[24:12] of

[24:13] it

[24:13] is

[24:13] a

[24:13] very

[24:13] overwhelmingly

[24:14] beige

[24:15] film

[24:15] and

[24:16] there's

[24:16] a

[24:16] certain

[24:16] richness

[24:17] and

[24:18] filigree

[24:19] quality

[24:19] to the

[24:20] ceremony

[24:20] and culture

[24:21] in the

[24:21] books

[24:22] which is

[24:22] not

[24:22] I think

[24:23] fully

[24:23] reflected

[24:24] in the

[24:24] very

[24:24] brutalist

[24:25] architecture

[24:26] and

[24:26] kind

[24:27] of

[24:27] muted

[24:28] costuming

[24:28] of the

[24:29] film

[24:29] one

[24:29] thing

[24:30] that

[24:30] really

[24:30] struck

[24:31] me

[24:31] was

[24:31] that

[24:31] the

[24:32] Atreides

[24:32] house

[24:33] it's

[24:34] very

[24:34] clear

[24:34] is not

[24:35] right

[24:36] for

[24:36] Dune

[24:36] they are

[24:37] not

[24:37] ready

[24:37] for the

[24:38] challenge

[24:38] of

[24:38] Arrakis

[24:39] and

[24:39] they

[24:40] will

[24:40] be

[24:40] overwhelmed

[24:40] by it

[24:41] and

[24:41] yet

[24:41] when

[24:41] they

[24:42] arrive

[24:42] they're

[24:42] already

[24:43] wearing

[24:43] what I

[24:43] would

[24:44] call

[24:44] dune

[24:44] tones

[24:45] rather than

[24:45] the

[24:46] earth tones

[24:46] the greens

[24:47] and so

[24:47] far

[24:47] you would

[24:48] expect

[24:48] from a

[24:49] forested

[24:49] planet

[24:50] like

[24:50] Caledon

[24:51] and

[24:51] I

[24:51] kind

[24:51] of

[24:51] wish

[24:52] that

[24:52] the

[24:52] Atreides

[24:53] legions

[24:55] had been

[24:55] dressed

[24:55] in armor

[24:56] that was

[24:56] not

[24:57] fittingly

[24:58] colored

[24:58] for

[24:58] Arrakis

[24:59] as a

[25:00] way to

[25:00] show

[25:00] how

[25:01] out

[25:01] of

[25:01] place

[25:01] they

[25:02] were

[25:02] that's

[25:02] just

[25:02] an

[25:02] idea

[25:03] that

[25:03] Denis

[25:03] Villanue

[25:04] can

[25:04] borrow

[25:04] from

[25:04] me

[25:05] for

[25:05] Dune

[25:05] Part

[25:06] Two

[25:06] or

[25:06] if

[25:06] he

[25:06] would

[25:07] like

[25:07] to

[25:07] do

[25:07] a

[25:07] Dune

[25:08] Part

[25:08] One

[25:08] special

[25:09] edition

[25:09] in which

[25:10] he uses

[25:10] CGI

[25:11] to

[25:11] change

[25:12] the

[25:12] colors

[25:13] of

[25:13] the

[25:13] uniforms

[25:14] much

[25:14] as

[25:14] George

[25:14] Lucas

[25:15] has

[25:15] done

[25:15] in

[25:16] his

[25:16] Star

[25:16] War

[25:17] films

[25:17] but

[25:18] of

[25:18] course

[25:18] my

[25:19] largest

[25:20] problem

[25:20] with

[25:21] it

[25:21] is

[25:22] as

[25:23] I

[25:23] mentioned

[25:23] when

[25:24] I

[25:24] talked

[25:24] about

[25:24] the

[25:24] trailer

[25:25] of

[25:25] the

[25:25] film

[25:25] my

[25:26] previous

[25:27] if

[25:27] it

[25:28] was

[25:30] the

[25:30] absence

[25:31] of

[25:31] Fade

[25:31] Ratha

[25:32] where

[25:32] is

[25:33] Fade

[25:33] Ratha

[25:34] Rabban

[25:34] the

[25:35] other

[25:36] evil

[25:36] nephew

[25:36] of

[25:37] Baron

[25:37] Vladimir

[25:38] Harkonnen

[25:38] who

[25:39] again

[25:39] as we

[25:39] mentioned

[25:40] is played

[25:40] by

[25:40] Sting

[25:40] in the

[25:41] other

[25:41] film

[25:41] and

[25:42] has

[25:42] a

[25:43] memorable

[25:43] climactic

[25:44] duel

[25:44] with

[25:44] Paul

[25:44] Atreides

[25:45] now

[25:45] I

[25:46] understand

[25:46] from

[25:47] a

[25:47] screenwriting

[25:48] point

[25:48] of

[25:48] view

[25:48] it

[25:48] makes

[25:49] sense

[25:49] to

[25:49] give

[25:49] your

[25:49] villain

[25:50] one

[25:50] evil

[25:51] nephew

[25:51] rather

[25:51] than

[25:52] two

[25:52] evil

[25:52] nephews

[25:53] and

[25:53] the

[25:58] he is

[25:58] laughably

[25:58] large

[25:59] to

[25:59] play

[25:59] that

[26:00] part

[26:00] he

[26:00] can

[26:00] only

[26:00] play

[26:01] the

[26:01] beast

[26:01] I

[26:02] assume

[26:02] they've

[26:02] collapsed

[26:03] those

[26:03] characters

[26:03] just

[26:04] into

[26:04] this

[26:04] one

[26:04] nephew

[26:05] of

[26:05] the

[26:05] beast

[26:05] Rabban

[26:06] and

[26:06] that

[26:07] he

[26:07] will

[26:07] have

[26:07] the

[26:07] climactic

[26:08] fight

[26:08] with

[26:08] Paul

[26:09] Atreides

[26:09] and

[26:10] if

[26:10] you

[26:11] fellows

[26:11] disagree

[26:11] with

[26:12] me

[26:12] I'm

[26:12] willing

[26:13] to

[26:13] put

[26:13] a

[26:13] little

[26:14] bit

[26:14] of

[26:14] money

[26:15] on

[26:15] it

[26:15] and

[26:16] we'll

[26:16] see

[26:16] who

[26:17] actually

[26:17] is

[26:18] right

[26:18] about

[26:18] whether

[26:19] there

[26:19] will

[26:19] be

[26:19] a

[26:19] climactic

[26:20] Paul

[26:21] Atreides

[26:21] Dave

[26:22] Batista

[26:22] fight

[26:23] in

[26:23] Dune

[26:23] Part

[26:24] 2

[26:24] so

[26:24] what's

[26:25] the

[26:25] action

[26:25] you

[26:26] guys

[26:26] are

[26:26] willing

[26:26] to

[26:26] give

[26:27] me

[26:27] on

[26:27] this

[26:27] I

[26:29] should

[26:30] mention

[26:30] that I

[26:30] have

[26:31] a

[26:31] Dune

[26:31] based

[26:32] gambling

[26:32] addiction

[26:32] I've

[26:33] been

[26:33] going

[26:33] to

[26:33] gamble

[26:34] on

[26:34] what

[26:34] is

[26:35] going

[26:35] to

[26:35] happen

[26:35] in

[26:35] the

[26:36] books

[26:36] which

[26:36] is

[26:36] strange

[26:37] because

[26:37] I've

[26:37] read

[26:37] them

[26:37] all

[26:38] and

[26:38] know

[26:38] what's

[26:38] going

[26:39] to

[26:39] happen

[26:39] but

[26:40] I

[26:40] will

[26:40] oftentimes

[26:40] bet

[26:41] my

[26:41] wife

[26:41] that

[26:42] they

[26:42] will

[26:42] have

[26:42] changed

[26:43] since

[26:43] the

[26:44] last

[26:44] time

[26:44] I

[26:44] read

[26:44] them

[26:44] so

[26:45] alive

[26:45] do

[26:45] I

[26:45] find

[26:46] the

[26:46] story

[26:46] and

[26:47] I

[26:47] am

[26:47] always

[26:47] wrong

[26:48] and

[26:48] I

[26:48] always

[26:48] lose

[26:49] luckily

[26:49] we

[26:50] share

[26:50] a

[26:50] bank

[26:50] account

[26:51] so

[26:51] I

[26:51] don't

[26:51] actually

[26:52] lose

[26:52] the

[26:52] money

[26:52] but

[26:53] I

[26:53] do

[26:53] lose

[26:53] a

[26:54] certain

[26:54] amount

[26:54] of

[26:54] face

[26:54] and

[26:55] thus

[26:55] my

[26:55] masculinity

[26:56] comes

[26:56] into

[26:57] question

[26:57] so

[26:57] what

[26:58] odds

[26:58] are

[26:58] you

[26:58] willing

[26:59] to

[26:59] give

[26:59] me

[26:59] on

[26:59] this

[26:59] very

[27:00] good

[27:00] bet

Dan McCoy

[27:01] yeah

[27:01] I

[27:02] don't

[27:02] know

[27:02] that

[27:02] I

[27:03] I'm

[27:03] sorry

[27:03] I

[27:03] can't

[27:04] take

[27:04] that

[27:04] action

[27:04] although

[27:04] I

[27:05] do

[27:05] I

[27:06] do

[27:06] appreciate

[27:07] the

[27:07] idea

[27:07] I

[27:07] think

[27:07] it would

[27:07] be

[27:08] very

[27:08] funny

[27:08] to

[27:08] see

[27:09] a

[27:09] movie

[27:09] in

[27:09] which

[27:09] Timothy

[27:10] Chalamet

[27:11] fights

[27:12] Dave

[27:12] Batiste

Tom Brokaw

[27:13] not

[27:14] funny

[27:14] I

[27:14] think

[27:14] it's

[27:15] going

[27:15] to

[27:15] happen

[27:15] Daniel

Dan McCoy

[27:16] whether

[27:20] or not

[27:20] it

[27:20] happens

[27:21] it's

[27:22] going

[27:22] to

[27:22] happen

[27:23] or

[27:23] would

[27:25] you

[27:25] like

[27:25] to

[27:25] bet

[27:26] me

[27:26] otherwise

Stuart Wellington

[27:26] yeah

[27:27] it

[27:27] appears

[27:28] Tom

[27:29] has

[27:29] access

[27:30] to

[27:30] the

[27:30] Benny

[27:32] if

Tom Brokaw

[27:33] only

[27:33] if

[27:33] only

[27:33] I

[27:34] did

[27:34] although

[27:34] they

[27:34] are

[27:34] quite

[27:35] frightening

[27:35] in

[27:36] real

[27:36] life

[27:36] as

[27:36] we

[27:36] saw

[27:37] from

[27:37] Charlotte

[27:37] Rampling's

[27:38] performance

[27:38] as the

[27:39] supreme

[27:41] mother

[27:41] of them

[27:41] the

[27:42] reverend

[27:43] mother

[27:43] now

[27:44] I

[27:45] imagine

[27:45] it

[27:45] would

[27:45] not

[27:46] be

[27:46] that

[27:46] different

[27:46] from

[27:46] the

[27:46] big

[27:47] fight

[27:47] I

[27:47] assume

[27:47] ends

[27:48] the

[27:48] movie

[27:48] Stuber

[27:48] between

[27:49] Dave

[27:49] Batista

[27:50] and

[27:50] Kamel

[27:50] Nanjiani

[27:51] which

[27:52] I

[27:52] have

[27:52] not

[27:52] seen

[27:53] the

[27:53] film

[27:53] but

[27:53] I

[27:53] assume

[27:54] they

[27:54] have

[27:54] a

[27:54] fight

[27:54] to

[27:55] the

[27:55] death

[28:02] Kamel

[28:02] was

[28:02] very

[28:03] afraid

[28:03] of

[28:03] Mr.

[28:04] Batista

[28:04] and

[28:04] I

[28:05] can

[28:05] only

[28:05] assume

[28:05] it's

[28:06] a

[28:06] movie

[28:06] like

[28:06] Collateral

[28:07] in

[28:08] which

[28:08] Tom

[28:08] Cruise

[28:08] and

[28:09] Jamie

[28:09] Fox

[28:09] were

[28:09] very

[28:10] much

[28:10] not

[28:10] on

[28:10] the

[28:10] same

[28:11] side

[28:11] but

[28:11] on

[28:11] very

[28:12] different

[28:12] sides

Stuart Wellington

[28:13] I

[28:13] don't

[28:13] know

[28:13] they

[28:14] seemed

[28:14] like

[28:14] they

[28:14] were

[28:14] doing

[28:15] pretty

[28:16] well

[28:16] but

[28:16] I

[28:16] had

[28:16] to

[28:16] stop

[28:17] it

[28:17] about

[28:17] two

[28:17] thirds

[28:18] of

[28:18] the

[28:18] way

[28:18] through

[28:18] I

[28:19] did

[28:19] and

[28:22] that's

[28:22] why

[28:22] I

[28:22] stopped

[28:22] the

[28:23] movie

[28:23] entirely

Tom Brokaw

[28:32] usually

[28:32] your

[28:33] routine

[28:33] it

[28:33] seems

[28:34] like

[28:34] a

[28:34] real

[28:34] inconvenience

Stuart Wellington

[28:36] well

[28:36] I

[28:37] also

[28:37] suffered

[28:37] a

[28:37] fair

[28:38] amount

[28:38] of

[28:38] splash

[28:38] damage

[28:39] if you

[28:39] know

[28:39] what

[28:39] I

[28:39] mean

Dan McCoy

[28:39] damage

[28:41] do you

[28:42] have

[28:43] acid

[28:43] pee

[28:44] like

[28:44] some

[28:45] kind

[28:45] of

[28:45] xenomorph

[28:46] urine

[28:47] I

[29:02] just

Tom Brokaw

[29:02] it's

[29:02] blood

[29:02] if

[29:03] it

[29:03] was

[29:03] peeing

[29:04] blood

[29:04] I

[29:04] would

[29:04] advise

[29:04] the

[29:05] xenomorph

[29:05] to

[29:05] see a

[29:06] urologist

[29:06] immediately

[29:07] well

Stuart Wellington

[29:09] and you

[29:09] would

[29:09] also

[29:09] think

[29:10] that

[29:10] it

[29:10] would

[29:10] become

[29:10] a

[29:10] much

[29:10] more

[29:11] popular

[29:11] figure

[29:12] to

[29:12] be

[29:12] peeing

[29:12] on

[29:13] car

[29:13] logos

[29:13] than

[29:14] Calvin

[29:14] because

[29:14] its

[29:15] pee

[29:15] would

[29:15] disintegrate

[29:16] those

[29:16] logos

Dan McCoy

[29:16] maybe

[29:19] the

[29:19] problem

[29:19] is

[29:20] that

[29:20] you

[29:21] can't

[29:21] draw

[29:21] that

[29:22] because

[29:22] the

[29:22] artist

[29:23] is

[29:23] like

[29:23] oh

[29:23] this

[29:24] logo

[29:24] would

[29:24] be

[29:24] gone

[29:24] by

[29:25] now

[29:25] you

Stuart Wellington

[29:26] know

Tom Brokaw

[29:32] it's

[30:02] portrait

[30:02] is

[30:02] not

[30:03] of

[30:03] a

[30:03] corpse

[30:03] decayed

[30:04] just

[30:05] to

[30:05] bones

Stuart Wellington

[30:05] I

Tom Brokaw

[30:09] find

[30:09] it

[30:10] fascinating

[30:10] Daniel

[30:11] that

[30:11] at

[30:11] this

[30:11] point

[30:11] in

[30:12] your

[30:12] life

[30:12] you

[30:12] still

[30:12] have

[30:12] not

[30:13] fully

[30:13] grasped

[30:13] the

[30:14] mechanics

[30:14] of

[30:14] how

[30:14] time

[30:15] works

[30:15] in

[30:15] still

[30:16] imagery

Dan McCoy

[30:16] it's

[30:21] your

[30:21] podcast

[30:22] well

[30:23] thank

[30:23] you

[30:23] one

[30:25] thing

[30:25] that

[30:25] bothers

[30:26] me

[30:27] about

[30:27] as

[30:28] the

[30:29] dune

[30:30] books

[30:30] go on

[30:31] again

[30:31] I've

[30:31] only

[30:31] read

[30:32] the

[30:32] first

[30:32] but

[30:32] it's

[30:32] my

[30:33] that

[30:33] they're

[30:33] very

[30:34] much

[30:34] sort

[30:36] of

[30:36] a

[30:36] questioning

[30:37] of

[30:38] the

[30:38] white

[30:39] messiah

[30:40] kind

[30:40] of

[30:40] colonizer

[30:41] messiah

[30:42] the

[30:44] what's

[30:45] the word

[30:46] I'm

[30:46] looking for

[30:46] the

[30:47] savior

[30:47] yeah

[30:49] sure

[30:50] that sort

[30:50] of

[30:50] thing

[30:52] sort

[30:52] of

Tom Brokaw

[30:52] Lawrence

[30:53] of Arabia

[30:53] Tarzan

[30:54] type

[30:54] thing

[30:55] where

[30:55] I mean

[30:55] Tarzan

[30:56] being

[30:56] I

[30:57] shouldn't

[30:57] equate

[30:58] the two

[30:58] but

[30:58] where

[30:59] a

[30:59] white

[31:00] person

[31:00] becomes

[31:00] part

[31:01] of

[31:01] another

[31:01] culture

[31:02] and

[31:02] ultimately

[31:03] conquers

[31:03] it

[31:03] and

[31:03] becomes

[31:04] the

[31:04] best

[31:04] one

[31:04] of

[31:05] it

Dan McCoy

[31:05] yes

[31:06] yeah

Tom Brokaw

[31:06] and

[31:07] saves

[31:07] it

[31:07] from

[31:07] some

[31:08] other

[31:08] thing

[31:08] or

[31:08] another

Dan McCoy

[31:09] last

[31:09] samurai

[31:10] or

[31:10] yeah

[31:10] your

Tom Brokaw

[31:11] last

[31:11] samurai's

[31:12] your

[31:13] what

[31:15] what

Tom Brokaw

[31:15] are

[31:15] some

[31:15] other

[31:15] ones

[31:16] I'm

[31:16] forgetting

[31:17] some

[31:17] other

[31:17] ones

[31:18] I'm

[31:18] sure

[31:18] there

[31:18] are

[31:18] very

[31:19] many

[31:19] you're

[31:19] John

[31:19] Carter

[31:20] with

Dan McCoy

[31:20] wolves

[31:20] is

[31:21] kind

[31:21] of

[31:21] that

[31:21] I

[31:22] guess

[31:22] yeah

[31:22] sure

Tom Brokaw

[31:22] you're

[31:22] dancing

[31:23] with

[31:23] the

[31:23] wolves

[31:23] yeah

[31:24] of

[31:24] course

[31:24] yeah

[31:24] okay

Dan McCoy

[31:24] no

[31:25] I

[31:25] just

[31:26] you know

[31:27] but in

[31:27] the context

[31:28] of just

[31:28] the first

[31:30] book

[31:30] which

[31:31] which

[31:31] turns

[31:32] you know

[31:32] like

[31:33] foreboding

[31:33] at the

[31:34] end

[31:34] but

[31:34] is

[31:35] still

[31:37] kind

[31:37] of a

[31:37] triumphant

[31:38] book

[31:38] and

[31:39] and

[31:40] certainly

[31:40] the context

[31:41] of just

[31:41] this first

[31:42] part of

[31:42] the movie

[31:43] it's just

[31:44] kind of

[31:44] a weird

[31:45] thing

[31:46] that the

[31:46] film

[31:47] I don't

[31:47] know

[31:48] has like

[31:48] laid the

[31:49] track

[31:50] to make

[31:50] me know

[31:51] where it's

[31:52] going with

[31:53] it

[31:53] like

[31:53] the problem

[31:54] with it

[31:54] as a

[31:55] story

[31:55] that is

[31:55] like

[31:56] incomplete

[31:56] you know

[31:58] like

[31:58] there's some

[31:58] weirdness

[31:58] with that

[31:59] especially

[31:59] when

[31:59] I don't

[32:00] know

[32:00] they're

[32:01] like

[32:01] okay

[32:01] you got

[32:03] the

[32:04] white

[32:04] colonizers

[32:05] and sort

[32:05] of the

[32:06] you know

[32:07] Arabic

[32:08] coded

[32:09] Fremen

[32:10] but then

[32:11] you've got

[32:11] like

[32:12] the Harkonnens

[32:13] who

[32:14] have the

[32:15] racial problem

[32:16] that a lot

[32:17] of science

[32:17] fiction

[32:18] seems to

[32:19] have

[32:19] where there's

[32:19] just like

[32:20] one race

[32:21] that's just

[32:21] gross

[32:22] like

[32:22] or

[32:23] one family

[32:24] that's just

[32:24] like

[32:25] we're

[32:25] a bunch

[32:26] of like

[32:26] really

[32:27] bald

[32:29] like

[32:29] pale

[32:31] like

[32:32] blob

[32:33] men

[32:33] I don't

[32:34] know

[32:35] there's

[32:35] nothing wrong

[32:35] with being

[32:36] bald

[32:37] but I'm

[32:37] saying

[32:38] the way

[32:38] that

[32:38] it's

[32:38] made up

[32:39] you certainly

[32:39] said it

[32:39] in a

[32:39] pejorative

[32:40] way

[32:40] I believe

[32:42] my friend

Tom Brokaw

[32:42] JK Simmons

[32:43] would be

[32:44] very unhappy

[32:44] with you

[32:45] thank you

[32:46] yeah

Stuart Wellington

[32:46] but do you

[32:47] know what

[32:47] I'm trying

[32:47] to get at

[32:48] not to mention

Tom Brokaw

[32:49] my other

[32:49] friend

[32:50] Howie Mandel

[32:51] the number

[32:52] the nights

[32:52] that me

[32:53] and my

[32:53] friends

[32:53] JK and

[32:54] Howie

[32:54] drive around

[32:55] in the

[32:55] dune buggy

[32:56] that's what

[32:56] I call

[32:56] my car

[32:57] and just

[32:58] whoop up

[32:58] the town

[32:59] they're also

[32:59] big dune

[33:00] heads

[33:01] I apologize

[33:03] they're

[33:04] very valuable

[33:04] to me

[33:05] and I don't

[33:05] appreciate their

[33:06] baldness being

[33:06] used as a

[33:07] pejorative

[33:08] no no no

Dan McCoy

[33:09] I didn't

[33:09] I'm saying

[33:10] that I think

[33:10] the movie

[33:11] uses a

[33:11] pejorative

[33:12] I apologize

[33:13] in general

[33:13] I was telling

[33:15] my friend

[33:15] Elliot

[33:16] who was here

[33:16] before you

[33:17] came

[33:17] that I'm

[33:18] very tired

[33:18] right now

[33:19] so I don't

[33:19] think I'm

[33:19] being as

[33:19] articulate

[33:20] as I

[33:21] could be

[33:21] but do you

[33:22] understand

[33:22] what I'm

[33:23] trying to get at

Tom Brokaw

[33:23] not everyone

[33:24] can be as

[33:25] articulate

[33:25] as I

[33:26] am

[33:26] so

[33:27] I think

[33:28] pronunciation

[33:29] being one

[33:30] of my

[33:30] finest

[33:31] characteristics

[33:32] now

[33:32] Daniel

[33:33] I think

[33:33] what you're

[33:34] asking for

[33:35] is partly

[33:35] that

[33:36] you want

[33:37] the answers

[33:38] that part

[33:38] two will

[33:39] provide

[33:39] but you're

[33:39] not going

[33:40] to get

[33:40] them until

[33:41] part two

[33:41] part of

[33:42] the brilliance

[33:43] to me

[33:43] of dune

[33:44] is that

[33:44] it takes

[33:45] this same

[33:45] sort of

[33:46] Lawrence

[33:46] of Arabia

[33:47] white savior

[33:48] story

[33:49] and turns

[33:50] it somewhat

[33:51] on its head

[33:52] by showing

[33:53] that the

[33:53] main character

[33:54] understands

[33:54] that by

[33:55] doing this

[33:55] he is only

[33:56] going to

[33:56] inevitably

[33:57] make the

[33:57] situation

[33:58] worse

[33:58] and he

[33:59] thinks

[33:59] through his

[34:00] willpower

[34:00] perhaps he

[34:01] can change

[34:02] that

[34:02] and lead

[34:03] things to

[34:03] a different

[34:03] path

[34:04] but no

[34:05] it's

[34:05] impossible

[34:06] much like

[34:07] in the

[34:07] story of

[34:08] Oedipus Rex

[34:09] there is

[34:09] one destined

[34:10] path

[34:11] and although

[34:12] each of the

[34:12] characters

[34:13] tries to

[34:13] avoid it

[34:14] all roads

[34:15] lead to

[34:16] him doing

[34:16] his mom

[34:17] even though

[34:18] every character

[34:19] has tried

[34:20] to not let

[34:20] that happen

[34:21] and that

[34:21] ultimately

[34:22] trying not

[34:23] to make

[34:23] it happen

[34:24] has only

[34:24] led it

[34:25] to happen

[34:26] Dune is

[34:26] someone like

[34:27] that

[34:27] and I feel

[34:28] like if

[34:28] there is

[34:29] another flaw

[34:29] with the

[34:30] film

[34:30] I feel

[34:31] like it

[34:31] does not

[34:31] fully

[34:32] communicate

[34:33] clearly

[34:33] that Paul

[34:34] Atreides

[34:35] sees ahead

[34:36] of him

[34:36] a future

[34:37] of almost

[34:39] apocalyptic

[34:39] violence

[34:40] and makes

[34:42] the choice

[34:42] to follow

[34:43] that future

[34:43] assuming he

[34:44] can change

[34:45] it but

[34:45] instead

[34:46] locking his

[34:46] destiny in

[34:47] place

[34:47] one small

[34:48] problem

[34:48] I had

[34:49] was that

[34:49] when they

[34:49] showed

[34:49] his vision

[34:50] of his

[34:51] hordes

[34:51] decimating

[34:52] whole cultures

[34:53] that was

[34:54] represented by

[34:54] roughly a bunch

[34:55] of dudes

[34:56] fighting in the

[34:57] desert

[34:57] and the burning

[34:58] of a small

[34:58] pile of bodies

[34:59] when every

[35:00] time I imagine

[35:01] it while reading

[35:01] the book

[35:02] I'm imagining

[35:03] thousands

[35:04] if not millions

[35:05] of burning

[35:06] piles of corpses

[35:06] as they lay

[35:07] waste to other

[35:08] civilizations

[35:09] attempting to

[35:10] force them to

[35:11] worship the

[35:12] Mahdib

[35:13] Kusatardak

[35:14] but I think

[35:15] what you're

[35:15] looking at

[35:16] is that

[35:16] part one

[35:17] is hopefully

[35:18] the setup

[35:19] that creates

[35:21] our expectations

[35:21] and then part two

[35:22] will be the

[35:23] payoff that

[35:24] subverts those

[35:25] expectations

[35:25] by making us

[35:26] question that

[35:28] narrative

[35:28] it's a bit like

[35:29] judging a joke

[35:30] from the punchline

[35:31] if I said to you

[35:33] a man walks

[35:34] into a bar

[35:35] and he says

[35:36] that's a

[35:37] can't judge the

[35:38] joke off of that

[35:39] I haven't told you

[35:40] the thing that comes after

[35:40] of course

[35:41] the punchline

[35:42] being

[35:42] I bet it's good

[35:43] the punchline

[35:44] is ouch

[35:45] because he

[35:45] walked into

[35:46] a different

[35:47] kind of bar

[35:47] than you thought

[35:48] he walked into

[35:49] oh my god

Stuart Wellington

[35:50] oh my god

[35:52] no no no

Dan McCoy

[35:53] I think that

[35:55] that's true

[35:56] and I do think

[35:58] that the problem

[35:58] is it's just

[35:59] hard to give

[36:00] the foreshadowing

[36:01] that's necessary

[36:01] of visions

[36:03] inside his head

[36:04] and like

[36:05] make it clear

[36:06] it's a complex

[36:08] idea for the film

[36:09] to try and

[36:10] communicate

Tom Brokaw

[36:10] it is very

[36:11] complex

[36:11] perhaps better

[36:12] described

[36:13] in prose

[36:14] or maybe

[36:15] they could

[36:15] have just

[36:15] had a character

[36:16] more clearly

[36:16] say it

[36:17] it's sometimes

[36:18] difficult to know

[36:20] when it's better

[36:21] to have what's

[36:21] called an

[36:22] exposition dump

[36:23] or info dump

[36:25] or ID

[36:26] meaning info dump

[36:27] not Independence Day

[36:29] which of course

[36:29] is ID4

[36:30] the hit film

[36:31] which did not

[36:32] have the plot

[36:33] complexity

[36:34] of Dune

[36:34] but did have

[36:36] Brent Spiner in it

[36:37] so you gotta give it

[36:38] some credit

[36:38] for that

[36:39] so perhaps

[36:41] it's hard to know

[36:41] when to say it

[36:42] in images

[36:43] and when to say it

[36:44] in words

[36:45] especially since

[36:46] as Dan has made

[36:47] clear

[36:47] images can only

[36:48] show the very

[36:49] end of a thing

[36:49] and cannot show

[36:50] the intermediate

[36:51] steps or even

[36:52] the beginning

[36:52] yeah

Dan McCoy

[36:54] that's why

[36:55] they're so useful

[36:56] for fortune telling

[36:57] yeah

Tom Brokaw

[36:58] oh yes

[36:59] very much

[36:59] that's why

[37:00] the story

[37:01] the portrait

[37:01] of Dorian Gray

[37:02] is not considered

[37:03] supernatural

[37:04] or even interesting

[37:04] because all portraits

[37:06] show the horrible

[37:07] ending of the person

[37:08] who has fainted

Dan McCoy

[37:09] yeah

[37:10] it's a slice of life

[37:12] it was a very

[37:12] controversial book

Tom Brokaw

[37:13] when it came out

[37:14] because people said

[37:15] yeah we know this

[37:16] why did you bother

[37:17] to write a whole book

[37:17] about it

[37:22] how I got here

[37:23] but I love it

[37:23] hey Oscar Wilde

[37:24] here's what's truly

[37:25] wild

[37:25] that you thought

[37:26] we needed to be told

[37:27] how portraits work

Dan McCoy

[37:28] you burned them

[37:29] you really got them

Tom Brokaw

[37:30] should be Oscar Mild

[37:31] right

[37:31] talk about Oscar Mild

[37:32] yes indeed

[37:33] did you guys

[37:35] here this is a little

[37:36] off topic

[37:36] but when you saw

[37:37] the movie

[37:38] Something Wild

[37:39] did you expect

[37:40] to see Oscar Wilde

[37:41] in the film

[37:41] because I did

[37:42] I guess I forgot

[37:43] that his name

[37:44] is spelled differently

Dan McCoy

[37:45] yeah that's your mistake

[37:47] there's a

[37:47] there's a terminal

[37:48] E on Wilde

Tom Brokaw

[37:51] it is the same issue

[37:51] I have every time

[37:52] I watch Wild America

[37:53] thinking I'm going

[37:54] to see Oscar Wilde's

[37:55] Adventures in America

[37:56] which he had

[37:57] but instead

[37:58] it's just a nature

[37:58] documentary

Dan McCoy

[37:59] what about Wild Things

[38:00] did you have

[38:01] the same issue

Stuart Wellington

[38:02] you would have loved it

[38:03] guys

[38:03] I think we can all

[38:04] agree that Oscar Wilde

[38:06] would have loved Wild

[38:07] Oscar Wilde

Tom Brokaw

[38:07] would have found

[38:08] its air of

[38:09] sluggish decadence

[38:11] and lugubrious

[38:13] let's call scandal

[38:15] he would have found

[38:16] it really up his alley

[38:17] Oscar Wilde

[38:18] would have given it

[38:19] I think

[38:19] four velvet stars

[38:21] in fact

[38:24] I feel like

[38:25] I want to tell

[38:25] the producers

[38:26] of the film Wilde

[38:27] just go ahead

[38:28] and put a blurb

[38:29] from Oscar Wilde

[38:29] on the box

[38:30] you know

[38:30] he would have loved it

[38:31] now I think

[38:34] to finish off

[38:35] my thoughts

[38:36] about Dune

[38:36] part one

[38:37] of the film

[38:37] I think that

[38:38] I was heartened

[38:39] by it

[38:40] it felt like

[38:41] a nice

[38:41] straightforward

[38:42] adaption

[38:42] of the story

[38:44] it did not

[38:45] reach the same

[38:46] heights of

[38:46] transcendence

[38:47] that I find

[38:48] in the book

[38:48] but then

[38:49] what does

[38:50] I'm sure

[38:50] if they made

[38:50] a movie

[38:51] of the bible

[38:51] which they've

[38:52] never done

[38:53] but maybe

[38:53] someday

[38:54] I'm sure

[38:55] it would not

[38:55] reach the same

[38:56] heights of

[38:57] religious importance

[38:58] for people

[38:58] otherwise

[38:59] they'd stop

[39:00] printing bibles

[39:01] and they'd just

[39:01] show people

[39:01] that movie

[39:02] which would be

[39:03] inconvenient

[39:03] when formats

[39:04] changed

[39:04] and you'd have

[39:05] to get a whole

[39:05] new one

[39:06] when you bought

[39:07] a DVI-D player

[39:08] or a Laserdisc

[39:08] or whatever

[39:09] but I feel like

[39:11] there's promise

[39:12] in there

[39:12] for Dune part 2

[39:13] and I just hope

[39:14] that the second part

[39:15] has a little bit

[39:16] more of the

[39:16] feeling of life

[39:19] that Frank Herbert

[39:20] brings to Arrakis

[39:21] I would love to see

[39:22] if in the second part

[39:23] as Paul learns

[39:24] more about life

[39:25] on Arrakis

[39:26] and surviving there

[39:26] if the planet

[39:27] itself looked less

[39:28] beige and dead

[39:29] and took on

[39:30] more of a

[39:31] vibrancy

[39:32] just another idea

[39:33] I'm throwing out there

[39:33] for Danny Boon

[39:34] to take

[39:35] go for it

[39:36] I will not sue you

[39:36] if you use it

[39:37] that is fine with me

[39:38] but for

[39:40] If It Ain't Brokaw

[39:41] Dune Fix It

[39:42] I've been

[39:42] America's favorite

[39:43] newsman

[39:44] Thomas J. Brokaw

[39:46] the J stands for

[39:47] Just Readin' Dune

[39:48] okay

Dan McCoy

[39:50] well

[39:51] thank you for that

[39:53] I think

[39:54] I think Elliot

[39:55] originally started

[39:57] this minute

[39:57] so I'm gonna

[39:58] let him

[39:59] finish it

[40:01] let's

[40:01] I just want to say

[40:02] before we do that

[40:03] this is one of those

[40:04] episodes that makes me

[40:06] delighted and mystified

[40:08] that people

[40:08] listen to the show

[40:10] and seem to enjoy it

Elliott Kalan

[40:12] hey guys

[40:14] I'm back

[40:15] Tom Brokaw

[40:15] just let me out

[40:16] of the bathroom

[40:16] he locked me in

[40:17] I assume

[40:18] what he was talking about

[40:19] I assume

[40:19] probably

[40:19] locked it with a chair

[40:21] or whatever

[40:21] yeah he had put a chair

[40:22] up there

[40:22] and then he said

[40:23] see ya sucker

[40:25] and just walked out

[40:26] I guess we're running

[40:27] out of time

[40:28] so I'm gonna have to

[40:29] talk about Adam Warlock

[40:31] at some future episode

[40:33] do you think they cast

Stuart Wellington

[40:34] that kid

[40:35] because his eyebrows

[40:35] look like Adam Warlock's eyebrows

[40:37] I have to assume

[40:38] that's what it was

[40:39] you gotta cast eyebrow

[40:40] first

[40:40] what do those eyebrows

[40:41] look like

[40:41] like kind of pointy

[40:43] on the sides

[40:44] oh pointy

[40:44] I mean you can't do that

[40:45] with makeup effects

[40:46] that's like

[40:46] a well known thing

[40:47] we don't have the technology

Elliott Kalan

[40:48] I was listening to an interview

[40:49] with Rick Baker

[40:50] we were saying

[40:50] eyebrows are still

[40:51] the Achilles heel

[40:51] of any makeup artist

[40:52] it's just impossible

[40:53] so when you want to have

[40:54] a character with crazy eyebrows

[40:55] you gotta go out

[40:56] and get a crazy eyebrow person

Dan McCoy

[40:58] you know

[40:58] or train two caterpillars

[41:00] to just hang out

Elliott Kalan

[41:01] that's

[41:02] you laugh

[41:03] but that's the easiest solution

[41:04] it's worked for Peter Gallagher

[41:05] yeah

[41:06] well this

[41:07] well

[41:08] Peter Gallagher

[41:09] the funny thing is that

[41:10] he was

[41:10] he was trying a new skin treatment

[41:11] where you put glue on your face

[41:13] and two caterpillars crawled on

[41:14] while he was sleeping

[41:14] with the glue

[41:15] and they just got stuck there

Stuart Wellington

[41:17] yeah yeah

[41:18] he was sleeping under

[41:19] a rose bush

[41:20] that was his mistake

[41:21] yeah

[41:22] oh what a charming idea

Dan McCoy

[41:25] well

Elliott Kalan

[41:26] it makes

[41:27] I think

[41:27] we should leave

[41:28] on that

[41:29] delightful note

[41:30] of Peter Gallagher

[41:31] with caterpillars

[41:33] on his eyes

[41:34] on his face

[41:34] I'll come back

[41:36] next time I guess

[41:37] to explain Adam Warlock

[41:38] to everybody

[41:38] I do hope to do that

[41:40] I can't wait to listen

[41:41] to this episode

[41:41] and find out

[41:42] what you guys

[41:42] were talking about

[41:42] with Tom Brokai

[41:43] I imagine it was

[41:44] pretty straightforward

[41:45] and made a lot of sense

[41:47] but for the Flophouse

[41:49] I've been Elliot Kalin

[41:50] I've been Dan McCoy

Stuart Wellington

[41:52] and I'm still

[41:54] Stuart Wellington

[41:55] bye

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